April 3, 2025 • 25 mins
Olivia Rogers has revealed just how close she came to calling off her wedding with Justin McKeone. In an Instagram Q&A, the former Miss Universe contestant shared some shocking revelations about what led to her marriage breakdown.
Andre Rebelo has been sentenced to life in prison after being found guilty of murdering his mother for her life insurance. The 29-year-old will spend at least 25 years in prison, after a jury found him guilty following an eight-week trial.
Sarah’s Day’s quest for the ‘ultimate yummy mummy car has continued. The self confessed holistic health princess left her followers waiting six weeks for the second instalment, but it didn’t disappoint.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up. On today's show, Olivia Rodgers
reveals shocking revelations about her marriage. Andre Ribello is sentenced
to life in prison. Sarah's Day's quest for the Ultimate
Yummy Mummy car continues, and our Friday debrief. But first,
(00:26):
it appears that Attis Paul is an Outspoken listener. Oh
my god, my stomach absolutely dropped when we got a
DM from a follower who said, Addis Paul has mentioned
you in his statement and there are a lot of
slides to get through in this statement. Oh I was
flicking through. I'm like, oh my god, what did he say?
On the thirteenth slide of his Instagram statement, he was
(00:47):
claiming that Mikhayla was doing stuff without the family's knowledge,
and he wrote or recently, when the Outspoken podcast talked
about how she personally threatened to sue them when they
covered the topic, something else we learn after she had
done it. Now, we are absolutely raring to talk about this,
but we are going to have some self control and
do it on Tuesday, because everything is still coming out.
(01:08):
There's so much back and forth going on, and we
want to have time to cover it properly. I loved
how many people were saying on TikTok that they couldn't
sleep because there were just new videos coming out every minute.
Oh well, we were at family dinner when it first broke,
and our dad had no idea what was going on.
We're all huddled around the phone listening to Anna Pol's statement.
I saw a TikTok and it was like, spare thought
(01:29):
for all the boyfriends right now that are lying in
bed next to their girlfriend listening to this twenty six
minute video. Well, I was about to hop into bed
at around ten to twelve, and then Mikayla Testa uploaded
her video and I saw I said part one and
I was like, no, I need to go to bed.
What se of control? Andre Ribello has been sentenced to
life in prison after being found guilty of murdering his
(01:49):
mother for her life insurance. The twenty nine year old
will spend at least twenty five years in prison after
a jury found him guilty following an eight week trial. Now,
the reason we have covered this story in depth is
because Andre is the former boyfriend of Perth influencer Grace Episcopo,
and the couple were in a relationship at the time
of his arrest and they share a son together. So
(02:12):
as a quick summary, Rebello killed his fifty eight year
old mother, Colleen, in her home in twenty twenty, after
taking out three life insurance policies in her name and
forging her will. Even though we've discussed this in so
much detail, when I saw the sentence handed down, I
think the gravity of this case really hit me. To
think that somebody would kill their own mother for money.
(02:33):
It's really disturbing. I mean, I was pleasantly surprised to
see that he got life in prison, because there's been
a few instances where people have not got correct sentences.
I think this is correct well. In the sentencing hearing,
Supreme Court Justice Bruno Financeqez said, you killed her for
financial motive. It was a premeditated offense, a monstrous act
that was integral to a fraudulent scheme which you intended
(02:56):
to profit from life insurance policies taken out by you.
It was an incomprehensible betrayal of the person who brought
you into this world. A devoted mother to her children
and devoted grandmother to her only grandchild. That's their very
strong words. I got shivers when you're reading it out,
and I think it's because, unfortunately, because Andre is connected
to Gracie Piscopo, this whole case had a bit of
(03:19):
a glamorous aura about it. It was like, oh my gosh,
this influencer's boyfriend who's a killer. We're actually forgetting that
this was a real woman, it was his mother. I mean,
it's just incomprehensible. I think another big distraction as well
was this focus on influencers lives not being as real
as they portray online because there was a lot of
focus on Andre and Gracie's financials.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, as we mentioned before, despite presenting this very
glamorous lifestyle online, it appears in twenty twenty, like a
lot of people, they were financially struggling with the pandemic.
And I think that's why I was quite shocked to
see the way Gracie Piscopo actually responded to this news.
So a day after the sentencing, she shared are real
and the caption said healing and moving on. Alongside those
(04:04):
sentiments was a video montage of her life over the
last couple of months, and the clips were mostly happy
moments with her and her six year old son, who
she shares with Rebello, alongside a vision of her with
her new boyfriend and the three of them have been
holidaying in Bali, and all of the vision was really
aesthetically pleasing. It was them in this paradise, enjoying this holiday,
(04:25):
and in the middle of it there was vision of
her crying. But to me, I was just shocked that
after all of these accusations have been made against Rebello
and how he killed his mother to get this life
insurance so he could continue to finance this lavish lifestyle,
that that's how you would choose to respond following his
CENTI it is a bit odd, But I do feel
(04:45):
for Gracie because she has copped it during this court case,
like she's not on trial for anything, but her face
has been splashed everywhere over the media. There's been a
lot of discussion about her online as well, so I
think she has had a rough time. But I personally
would have shared maybe something about Andre's mother. I mean,
they were obviously close. It seems a bit odd to
(05:06):
share as he said such a glamorous reel. Yeah. Well,
the real had a backing song which was this. It
was a really odd song choice because at first I
was like, is this dedicated to Andre? But then when
(05:27):
a new boyfriend featured, I was like, oh, okay, it's
about her son, saying that she is still happy that
she had her son with him and she's where she's
meant to be now in this new relationship. I also
think it was clear from this video that she is
really trying to distance herself from Andre. She has amped
up the PDA with her new boyfriend online. That would
be very difficult for her knowing that her son is
(05:47):
one day going to grow up and realize what his
father did. Yeah, and I mean, as we mentioned in
the intro, he is going to have a minimum of
twenty five years in jail, so by the time he
is eligible for parole, he'll be in his fifties. I
already own a range Rover Sport, but it's a five seater,
and now that I have three boys, I need a
bigger car. Sarah's Day's quest for the ultimate yummy mummy
(06:11):
car has continued. The self confessed holistic health princess left
her followers waiting six weeks for the second installment, but kay,
it didn't disappoint. Yeah. This time around, Sarah and her
husband Kurt Tills reviewed a seven seater Range Rover, and
Sarah currently owns a five seater sports version of the car,
but is looking for a bigger one now that she
(06:31):
has three kids. Back in February, when Sarah launched this
series on her social media channel, she had to put
out a disclaimer prior to the video launching, reassuring her
followers that she's not out of touch, but she would
only be reviewing luxury family cars and the first car
she ended up reviewing was the Lexus GX five point fifty,
which costs around one hundred and thirty thousand dollars and
(06:53):
at the time, she insisted the video was not sponsored,
but she was purely sharing the review because her followers
asked for it. And this was all a little bit
fishy considering that Sarah's husband worked for Lexus last year,
so he shot a campaign for the car brand as
well as shooting content for Lexus's Melbourne Cup function in
November twenty twenty three, What did you think about the
new review? Because I personally thought it wasn't as painful
(07:16):
as the first one. Yeah, I think the difference was
that she seems genuinely interested in actually purchasing this car,
so they seemed to be quite impressed with the features,
rather than turning their nose up at the subpar luxury
features of the Lexus. Well, they both seemed genuinely excited
about some of the features of this car. There was
a mini fridge. There was also TVs on the back
(07:37):
of the sea. I mean, I want this car, and
to be fair, it was a lot better than the
Lexus GX, but that might be because it costs nearly
double the amount. So I could not believe it when
Sarah said that the car costs around three hundred and
fifty thousand dollars is ridiculous. And I could tell by
Kurt's reaction that you know, they actually want this car.
(07:57):
Let's hear what they said is around three hundred and
fifty k. Very different to part one the car I
first reviewed.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's exceptional that it is gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's like having the space of a van without having
a van. I mean, goodness forbid that they consider a van.
I did see someone say that they want Sarah to
review the Kear Carnival just for shitting giggles. Following her
less than favorable remarks about Lucree, I'd love to see
that as well. I just think it's so ridiculous with cars,
like what actually makes that car worth three hundred and
(08:28):
fifty thousand dollars? Like if you actually look at all
of the specs, I mean, what a couple of TVs
on the back of the seat that you could live without. Yeah. Well,
as soon as Sarah mentioned the price, I knew there
was going to be a lot of backlash. So one
person wrote, absolutely stunning car. I did gasp out loud
and almost lost my lunch when you mentioned the price tag.
I knew it was going to be dollars, but not
that expensive, and another person added it makes me feel broke. Well,
(08:50):
there was one comment that caught Sarah's eye, and it
read I can't imagine spending that much money on a
depreciating asset like a car now. Sarah was quick to respond,
writing I'm not that kind of person that buys a
car with an investment mindset. She then went on to
say it's also a shame when I've been vlogging when
I had two hundred dollars in my bank account, lived
at my parents' house, and was at UNI wondering what
(09:11):
I was going to do with my life. As soon
as someone creates success for themselves, a handful of people
won't clap and say congratulations, you did it. This handful
will scream boo and state I'm unrelatable. It's okay if
not every piece of content relates to you or is
targeted at you. This would make the Internet an extraordinarily
boring place. Now, someone else chimed in, saying not relatable content.
(09:33):
For most people, that's seventeen point five percent of what
your house is worth, and Sarah responded, Unfortunately, Renee, you
can't please the masses on the internet. If I was
to test drive another car that perhaps weren't similar to
my current cars, others may comment that my video isn't
honest or authentic, as they know what car I'm most
likely to be looking at buying. I understand this car
isn't an option for everyone, but I'm just documenting me
(09:55):
test driving a bunch. It's not really that deep and
if it offends you, then swipe off the bu I
have ig reels swipe away. I love it. It's like
no one would believe it if I actually reviewed a
Keir Carnival, because I'm much more wealthier and I would
have a luxury car. Look, I'm not naive. We all
know Sarah's day is very wealthy, but it even surprised
me that she might drop three hundred and fifty thousand
(10:15):
dollars on a car. And I think the comment was
quite fair which mentioned that this person wouldn't spend that
much money on a depreciating asset like a car. She's
so triggered by it. It's like this is the Internet
in twenty twenty five. You put a piece of content
out there and people are going to have an opinion
on it. Just don't read the comment. We spoke about
the reaction to Georgie Stevenson promoting her own wealth last week.
(10:37):
Do you think that people were attacking Sarah because it
doesn't really fit into her own branding to buy a
car like this. Yeah. We spoke in depth about how
Georgie Stevenson's personal brand aligns perfectly with her business brands,
because not only does she have a wellness company, but
she also has a business that promotes manifestation courses and
goal setting so it makes sense for her to say
(10:58):
I set this goal and this, whereas with Sarah's day,
her brand is a little bit all over the place
in terms of she started out as a fitness influencer
and then she has really turned into this mummy vlogging
and wanting to be relatable, and so she keeps saying
it's like her yummy mummy car or whatever the inference is,
and most mums wouldn't have three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars to spend on a car. Yeah, because she's probably
(11:20):
picked up a lot of followers recently because she's been
sharing in a very raw manner about the issues she's
been having with her son's sleep and how he's got reflux,
and then they're probably like, hang on, what you can
afford a three hundred fifty thousand dollars car? You're not
one of us? Yeah. Well, there were some followers that
jump to Sarah's defense. So one wrote, why do people
get so triggered about how much someone else is willing
(11:41):
to spend on a car? Damn, And Sarah replied. In Australia,
we have this thing called tall poppy syndrome and it
is so real, particularly if you're female that has built
success from the ground up. I mean, there is a
lot of truth to what Sarah is saying. She has
got a point there now despite the negative commentary, this
is a real win for Sarah's channel. So at the
(12:02):
time of recording, the video has over a million views
on Instagram and great engagement. There's been heaps of likes,
particularly a lot of sendons. There's over two thousand send ons.
So it doesn't surprise me because everyone will be going, oh,
fuck off.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Continuing on the honesty train that I'm on.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Olivia Rodgers has revealed just how close she came to
calling off her wedding with Justin mckeirn. In an Instagram
Q and A, the former Miss Universe contestant, shared some
shocking revelations about what led to her marriage breakdown. Olivia's
update comes as her ex husband faces charges of stealing
almost half a million dollars from his former employer to
(12:43):
allegedly fund a very serious drug habit. Now, Kate, before
we get into what Olivia had to say, can you
bring us up to speed with this relationship. Yeah, So
the pan met in twenty eighteen and they dated for
four years before getting married in February twenty twenty two. Now,
the wedding looked absolutely picture perfect, like a Pinterest board,
so fans were absolutely shocked when Olivia announced the split
(13:05):
eight months later. Since then, Olivia has been pretty vague
about what caused the breakup. She did do a couple
of podcast interviews where she admitted to being miserable in
the relationship and said that there were a lot of
big issues. However, she never went into details about what
those problems were out of respect for Justin. One thing
she did open up about was her IVF journey with Justin,
(13:26):
so that journey ended up being the breaking point for
their marriage, when she realized the thought of falling pregnant
to him terrified her.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
On Tuesday Night, Olivia invited fans to ask her questions,
and as expected, she received an influx of questions about
her marriage breakdown. However, rather than ignoring them like usual,
she actually decided to speak her truth in a bid
to help others. Olivia wrote, my boundaries weren't being respected.
There were patterns of behavior I didn't agree with, and
(13:53):
I had to come to realize our values were not aligned.
Something significant happened in the relationship a couple of days
before the wedding. That was very upsetting for me. I
considered calling it off, but I felt like I had
too much to lose, not just for myself, but I
worried about how it would impact all of my family
and friends who had flown into state to be there
on the day, the money they would lose, etc. I'm
(14:15):
also an optimist, and I hope that things would improve. God,
would you like to know what actually happened? Like, it's
crazy to think because I was following Olivia and Justin
pretty closely at this time. I remember her Hen's party.
I remember the beautiful dress she wore. You actually bought
me a similar bride light up headband to her. Like
she was absolute bride inspo. Everyone was pinning her wedding.
(14:37):
She had the beautiful hydrangers, she had the two dresses.
Everything looked perfect. And to think that she'd been crying
herself to sleep the night before the wedding and this
big incident occurred just days before. It blows my mind.
It really does. And after going through the stress of
having a wedding before I would have said, oh, would
you just call it off? But there is a lot
of pressure on you, especially because a lot of Justin's
(14:59):
family were from per Yeah, and well her family were
from Adelaide. Yes, they held it in Melville so embarrassed,
and there'd be so much stress leading into the day
that she might have been thinking, well, maybe once we
get married, things will be better. And the only person
that she confided in leading into this wedding was her mom.
She said that her mum was actually quite supportive if
she wanted to call the wedding off. And she didn't
(15:20):
even tell her bridesmaids because she didn't want them feeling
uneasy on the day. And Olivia has gone on to
say that this was a big bread flag. So if
you're not willing to tell people that you're close to
what's actually going on, that would be really embarrassing. I
can see why she would have wanted to save face.
I mean, her maid of honor is meant to be
going up there and talking about their love story, and
if she's got in the back of her head or
Justin's been a complete dickhead, how they going to go down? Well? Yeah,
(15:42):
And after sharing the answer to this question, Olivia jumped
on her stories to add this, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Feeling really vulnerable after sharing that response that I just shared.
My hands are shaking, my heart is racing. I've never
answered a question. I've never answered those questions like that before.
So yeah, I feel vulnerable and I'm really attempted to
delete it, but I'm not going to do that now.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
The day after Olivia shared this Q and A, she
uploaded a TikTok where she shared five red flags to
look out for in a relationship, and she said this.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I think it's so hard to know when to get
out of a relationship. And I wondered so many times
over the last few years if maybe I'd seen more
content of people sharing red flags in relationships and why
they got out of relationships that I'm out of, paid
attention to it, and called off my wedding before getting
married to the wrong person.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Let's go through some of these red flags that Olivia shared.
So the first was if you feel more uncertain about
the relationship and you spend more time questioning it than
you do feeling content, that's a big one. Yeah. The
second was when you think about the future with that person,
you feel more uncertainty and you feel unsure about it
rather than feeling excited. I mean, what's disturbing is all
(16:59):
of the stuff that's come out about Justin recently. You
can see why these red flags were popping up. Yeah,
the next one was you don't feel that you can
communicate properly and you don't feel seen or heard when
you try to communicate with them. Number four, you feel
happier when you're away from that person and you feel
like you can be yourself. I actually resonate with that
one from a past relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Number five was if they cross your boundaries multiple times
and their behaviors do not change. I find the timing
of these revelations very interesting because, as we mentioned in
the intro, Justin mckin is facing some very serious theft allegations.
So in November, the Herald Son broke the news that
Justin had been accused of stealing almost half a million
(17:41):
dollars from his employer, Rocket Brands. So he worked as
the company's head of finance of five months before getting sacked,
and it's alleged that he spent the money on drugs,
alcohol and gambling. And one of the allegations that got
a lot of people talking was that he was apparently
sleeping in the work toilets for up to four hours
a day, accused of taking excessively long lunch breaks and
(18:02):
frequently leaving the office without completing his duties. This was
all whilst he was getting paid two hundred thousand dollars
a year. That'd be quite nice getting to have a
little nap in the toilet. So we're getting paid two
hundred k now in knocked over. His boss reported the
alleged theft to Victoria Police, which sparked a criminal investigation.
Justin was interviewed by detectives in early November, but criminal
(18:22):
charges have yet to be laid while the investigation continues. Well,
this is going to get really messy if there are
criminal charges laid, because this is when things start to
get more serious and jail time could actually be an
option if he was found guilty. Yeah. Well, he doesn't
appear to be taking it very seriously because he has
now failed to appear in court twice and it's believed
that the court is set to take his failure to
(18:43):
engage with the hearing as an acceptance of guilt. Well,
that's the thing. He hasn't made any public comments about it,
he hasn't denied it. Well, he's gone offline, so he
died his Instagram account. Didn't he make a new one
though that didn't have any followers. Yeah, Well, he ended
up reappearing back on Instagram to coincide with his girlfriend
Tani Leeson's pregnancy announcement, So he is expecting a child
(19:04):
soon and it's all getting very messy. I can understand
why Olivia has come out and shared these details because
she has been front and center of this coverage when
the news broke. I mean I really felt for her
because her photos were splashed everywhere in the news articles
about this. She was constantly referenced as his ex wife.
And I think by Olivia coming out and condemning Justin's behavior,
(19:27):
it really absolves her of guilt by association. Yeah, and
of course, I mean she has nothing to do with
this theft. She had been broken up with him for
several years. But his behavior really is in stark contrast
to the good girl image that she has cultivated for
herself online. So I think it's a good pr move
for Olivia to come out condemn his behavior and continue
(19:48):
to distance herself from him. And I think she must
feel safer to come out and talk about Justin after
all of these allegations we've recently heard because a lot
of people are thinking, well, he's clearly been the issue
in that relationship. Yeah, it's no longer all on her
because there was a time where it was like, oh,
what's wrong with her? Imagine lasts very long. Let's get
(20:10):
into a Friday debrief and I'm going to kick us
off with a bit of a story time. So currently,
we are undergoing some roof renovations at my house. We
had a leak and we got a guy in to
try and fix it. He went a little bit mia
and then suddenly one day I just looked out the
window and he was climbing on my roof fixing it.
So he didn't knock on the door, he didn't advise
(20:32):
Reese that he was coming over, And that's kuch scary
just to see some random on your roof. Well, I
was feeding Jack breakfast and I just hear this man
on the roof and I'm like, I'm practical, Yeah, I'm
pretty sure he's fixing it. Anyway, ended up going out
the front, had a great chat to him. He's a
lovely guy. Fast forward two weeks. The other day, I
was sitting on the couch and out of the corner
(20:53):
of my eye, this man is again trudging up into
our front yard. Doesn't come over, it doesn't wave to me, nothing.
He's holding a and then I hear him going up
on the roof again. I was like, oh, okay, whatever,
I'll just let him. Let him do what he needs
to do. I thought he had fixed the issue, but
obviously have come back. Then all of a sudden, I
hear this massive crash and I see the ladder fall down,
(21:13):
and I'm like, oh my god, the poor thing is
like trapped on the roof. I better go out there
and give him the ladder back. Anyway, it turns out
that he's also fallen off the roof. There's blood everywhere,
it's just spurting out of his leg. I'm like, are
you okay, And he's like, yeahah, I'm fine. And he's Scottish,
he's got the best accent. And I'm like, are you sure?
And I think he was trying to be really tough.
(21:35):
He's like, I'll go clear myself up. I've got some
bandages in the car. I feel like that's such a
man thing, isn't it. Just Oh No, I'm fine. I've
just like, taken a huge tumble off the roof, but
she'll be right. Anyway. I raced up the drive where
I tried to find some bandages. I came down. He's like,
are you a nurse. I'm like no, no, I just care.
I'm like, did you hit your head any anyway? He's
like no, I'm all good. I'll go back up there
and finish what I'm doing. And I'm like, oh my god. Anyway,
(21:56):
he went back up on the roof and then just left.
See this is somebody I want to employ to put
up my Christmas lights because this can do attitude. He's
nearly killed himself falling off your roof, but he's ready
to get the job done. Well, I've got two Friday
shares for you. One is that I'm just getting to
a point in pregnancy where I'm actually too embarrassed to
leave the house because the comments have now started. So
(22:18):
I had to go in to sort out my parental
leave pay, my government parental leave pay. Had to go
into centralingk which was just delightful. And I sat down
waiting for my meeting and another man, like I was
on my phone. I was you know, which is a
sign don't talk to me, yeah, which is the same
place don't talk to me. So there was a man
that was sitting across from me in his forties, and
(22:38):
he had taken a phone call and after he got
off the phone, he looked over at me and he said, geez,
your tummy's big. How far off are you?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Just what you want to hear. I just was like, no,
I haven't been feeling self conscious about waddling around today
at all. That's just made me feel so good about
myself anyway. So for some reason, I've then got starf
in this like fifteen minute conversation where he told me
all about his life, his two children. I was like,
I'm just trying to sit on my phone and disassociate, like,
(23:09):
please leave me alone. So, yes, the commentary is getting
so bad that I'm thinking for the next couple of
weeks i might just stay inside. And the other Friday
share is I'm just so disappointed that Megan markles jam
you cannot get it in Australia. So she finally released
her as ever products. So a jar of Meghan's jam
is setting people back fifteen US dollars. I was prepared
(23:31):
to pay that, but they're only delivering to the US. Well,
I quickly jumped on and the honey had already sold out,
which I expected because if it's honey from their house,
is that I don't know, is that what they're claiming?
Then yeah, of course people are going to want to
try that. And I was like, oh, the jam And
then I put it in my cart just to see
what the postage would be, and then I realized, yeah,
it doesn't come here, it's only a US. What do
you think about the flower sprinkles, because she's selling them
(23:53):
as well. They heavily featured throughout the show fifteen US dollars.
I'm not surprised by the cost of any of these.
I don't think it's that bad, to be honest. There
has been some debate online about whether this actually was
as big of a success as Megan has been portraying online, because,
as ever, the products all sold out. But people have
been saying, well, did she do the typical influencer marketing
(24:15):
thing and only release a small amount of products to
say that she's sold out or was it actually a success? Well,
I was half expecting her to do the thing that
Molly May did in her doco and film. How many
visitors were on the website and have a little freak
out about it. Like I think if she had done
that and we had seen the numbers, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
this was a huge success. But I think that's a
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bit tacky though. But she's been doing all of those things,
like she's been tagging where all her clothes are from.
She is an influencer now, and that's normally what influencers do.
Maybe we might see it popping up as content on
her Instagram soon. I think she needs to do that
in order to strengthen the brand and be like, yeap,
I've got a lot of power here. But the question
mark is there considering these products are jam and honey. Well,
(24:58):
it had to be a success, didn't it, because if
these products had just sat on her website, the media
would have had a huge field day. Yeah. Well, Megan
seems to be in the habit of resharing people's stories
that they tager in, so it'll be quite telling when
the product rolls out to see how many people tager. Well,
we're going to see this all over TikTok. I think
so many people would have bought it just to do
a taste test. Yeah, well, that's where we're going to
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leave things today. Thank you for listening to another episode
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past and present.
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up. On today's show, Olivia Rodgers
reveals shocking revelations about her marriage. Andre Ribello is sentenced
to life in prison. Sarah's Day's quest for the Ultimate
Yummy Mummy car continues, and our Friday debrief. But first,
(00:26):
it appears that Attis Paul is an Outspoken listener. Oh
my god, my stomach absolutely dropped when we got a
DM from a follower who said, Addis Paul has mentioned
you in his statement and there are a lot of
slides to get through in this statement. Oh I was
flicking through. I'm like, oh my god, what did he say?
On the thirteenth slide of his Instagram statement, he was
(00:47):
claiming that Mikhayla was doing stuff without the family's knowledge,
and he wrote or recently, when the Outspoken podcast talked
about how she personally threatened to sue them when they
covered the topic, something else we learn after she had
done it. Now, we are absolutely raring to talk about this,
but we are going to have some self control and
do it on Tuesday, because everything is still coming out.
(01:08):
There's so much back and forth going on, and we
want to have time to cover it properly. I loved
how many people were saying on TikTok that they couldn't
sleep because there were just new videos coming out every minute.
Oh well, we were at family dinner when it first broke,
and our dad had no idea what was going on.
We're all huddled around the phone listening to Anna Pol's statement.
I saw a TikTok and it was like, spare thought
(01:29):
for all the boyfriends right now that are lying in
bed next to their girlfriend listening to this twenty six
minute video. Well, I was about to hop into bed
at around ten to twelve, and then Mikayla Testa uploaded
her video and I saw I said part one and
I was like, no, I need to go to bed.
What se of control? Andre Ribello has been sentenced to
life in prison after being found guilty of murdering his
(01:49):
mother for her life insurance. The twenty nine year old
will spend at least twenty five years in prison after
a jury found him guilty following an eight week trial. Now,
the reason we have covered this story in depth is
because Andre is the former boyfriend of Perth influencer Grace Episcopo,
and the couple were in a relationship at the time
of his arrest and they share a son together. So
(02:12):
as a quick summary, Rebello killed his fifty eight year
old mother, Colleen, in her home in twenty twenty, after
taking out three life insurance policies in her name and
forging her will. Even though we've discussed this in so
much detail, when I saw the sentence handed down, I
think the gravity of this case really hit me. To
think that somebody would kill their own mother for money.
(02:33):
It's really disturbing. I mean, I was pleasantly surprised to
see that he got life in prison, because there's been
a few instances where people have not got correct sentences.
I think this is correct well. In the sentencing hearing,
Supreme Court Justice Bruno Financeqez said, you killed her for
financial motive. It was a premeditated offense, a monstrous act
that was integral to a fraudulent scheme which you intended
(02:56):
to profit from life insurance policies taken out by you.
It was an incomprehensible betrayal of the person who brought
you into this world. A devoted mother to her children
and devoted grandmother to her only grandchild. That's their very
strong words. I got shivers when you're reading it out,
and I think it's because, unfortunately, because Andre is connected
to Gracie Piscopo, this whole case had a bit of
(03:19):
a glamorous aura about it. It was like, oh my gosh,
this influencer's boyfriend who's a killer. We're actually forgetting that
this was a real woman, it was his mother. I mean,
it's just incomprehensible. I think another big distraction as well
was this focus on influencers lives not being as real
as they portray online because there was a lot of
focus on Andre and Gracie's financials.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, as we mentioned before, despite presenting this very
glamorous lifestyle online, it appears in twenty twenty, like a
lot of people, they were financially struggling with the pandemic.
And I think that's why I was quite shocked to
see the way Gracie Piscopo actually responded to this news.
So a day after the sentencing, she shared are real
and the caption said healing and moving on. Alongside those
(04:04):
sentiments was a video montage of her life over the
last couple of months, and the clips were mostly happy
moments with her and her six year old son, who
she shares with Rebello, alongside a vision of her with
her new boyfriend and the three of them have been
holidaying in Bali, and all of the vision was really
aesthetically pleasing. It was them in this paradise, enjoying this holiday,
(04:25):
and in the middle of it there was vision of
her crying. But to me, I was just shocked that
after all of these accusations have been made against Rebello
and how he killed his mother to get this life
insurance so he could continue to finance this lavish lifestyle,
that that's how you would choose to respond following his
CENTI it is a bit odd, But I do feel
(04:45):
for Gracie because she has copped it during this court case,
like she's not on trial for anything, but her face
has been splashed everywhere over the media. There's been a
lot of discussion about her online as well, so I
think she has had a rough time. But I personally
would have shared maybe something about Andre's mother. I mean,
they were obviously close. It seems a bit odd to
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share as he said such a glamorous reel. Yeah. Well,
the real had a backing song which was this. It
was a really odd song choice because at first I
was like, is this dedicated to Andre? But then when
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a new boyfriend featured, I was like, oh, okay, it's
about her son, saying that she is still happy that
she had her son with him and she's where she's
meant to be now in this new relationship. I also
think it was clear from this video that she is
really trying to distance herself from Andre. She has amped
up the PDA with her new boyfriend online. That would
be very difficult for her knowing that her son is
(05:47):
one day going to grow up and realize what his
father did. Yeah, and I mean, as we mentioned in
the intro, he is going to have a minimum of
twenty five years in jail, so by the time he
is eligible for parole, he'll be in his fifties. I
already own a range Rover Sport, but it's a five seater,
and now that I have three boys, I need a
bigger car. Sarah's Day's quest for the ultimate yummy mummy
(06:11):
car has continued. The self confessed holistic health princess left
her followers waiting six weeks for the second installment, but kay,
it didn't disappoint. Yeah. This time around, Sarah and her
husband Kurt Tills reviewed a seven seater Range Rover, and
Sarah currently owns a five seater sports version of the car,
but is looking for a bigger one now that she
(06:31):
has three kids. Back in February, when Sarah launched this
series on her social media channel, she had to put
out a disclaimer prior to the video launching, reassuring her
followers that she's not out of touch, but she would
only be reviewing luxury family cars and the first car
she ended up reviewing was the Lexus GX five point fifty,
which costs around one hundred and thirty thousand dollars and
(06:53):
at the time, she insisted the video was not sponsored,
but she was purely sharing the review because her followers
asked for it. And this was all a little bit
fishy considering that Sarah's husband worked for Lexus last year,
so he shot a campaign for the car brand as
well as shooting content for Lexus's Melbourne Cup function in
November twenty twenty three, What did you think about the
new review? Because I personally thought it wasn't as painful
(07:16):
as the first one. Yeah, I think the difference was
that she seems genuinely interested in actually purchasing this car,
so they seemed to be quite impressed with the features,
rather than turning their nose up at the subpar luxury
features of the Lexus. Well, they both seemed genuinely excited
about some of the features of this car. There was
a mini fridge. There was also TVs on the back
(07:37):
of the sea. I mean, I want this car, and
to be fair, it was a lot better than the
Lexus GX, but that might be because it costs nearly
double the amount. So I could not believe it when
Sarah said that the car costs around three hundred and
fifty thousand dollars is ridiculous. And I could tell by
Kurt's reaction that you know, they actually want this car.
(07:57):
Let's hear what they said is around three hundred and
fifty k. Very different to part one the car I
first reviewed.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's exceptional that it is gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's like having the space of a van without having
a van. I mean, goodness forbid that they consider a van.
I did see someone say that they want Sarah to
review the Kear Carnival just for shitting giggles. Following her
less than favorable remarks about Lucree, I'd love to see
that as well. I just think it's so ridiculous with cars,
like what actually makes that car worth three hundred and
(08:28):
fifty thousand dollars? Like if you actually look at all
of the specs, I mean, what a couple of TVs
on the back of the seat that you could live without. Yeah. Well,
as soon as Sarah mentioned the price, I knew there
was going to be a lot of backlash. So one
person wrote, absolutely stunning car. I did gasp out loud
and almost lost my lunch when you mentioned the price tag.
I knew it was going to be dollars, but not
that expensive, and another person added it makes me feel broke. Well,
(08:50):
there was one comment that caught Sarah's eye, and it
read I can't imagine spending that much money on a
depreciating asset like a car now. Sarah was quick to respond,
writing I'm not that kind of person that buys a
car with an investment mindset. She then went on to
say it's also a shame when I've been vlogging when
I had two hundred dollars in my bank account, lived
at my parents' house, and was at UNI wondering what
(09:11):
I was going to do with my life. As soon
as someone creates success for themselves, a handful of people
won't clap and say congratulations, you did it. This handful
will scream boo and state I'm unrelatable. It's okay if
not every piece of content relates to you or is
targeted at you. This would make the Internet an extraordinarily
boring place. Now, someone else chimed in, saying not relatable content.
(09:33):
For most people, that's seventeen point five percent of what
your house is worth, and Sarah responded, Unfortunately, Renee, you
can't please the masses on the internet. If I was
to test drive another car that perhaps weren't similar to
my current cars, others may comment that my video isn't
honest or authentic, as they know what car I'm most
likely to be looking at buying. I understand this car
isn't an option for everyone, but I'm just documenting me
(09:55):
test driving a bunch. It's not really that deep and
if it offends you, then swipe off the bu I
have ig reels swipe away. I love it. It's like
no one would believe it if I actually reviewed a
Keir Carnival, because I'm much more wealthier and I would
have a luxury car. Look, I'm not naive. We all
know Sarah's day is very wealthy, but it even surprised
me that she might drop three hundred and fifty thousand
(10:15):
dollars on a car. And I think the comment was
quite fair which mentioned that this person wouldn't spend that
much money on a depreciating asset like a car. She's
so triggered by it. It's like this is the Internet
in twenty twenty five. You put a piece of content
out there and people are going to have an opinion
on it. Just don't read the comment. We spoke about
the reaction to Georgie Stevenson promoting her own wealth last week.
(10:37):
Do you think that people were attacking Sarah because it
doesn't really fit into her own branding to buy a
car like this. Yeah. We spoke in depth about how
Georgie Stevenson's personal brand aligns perfectly with her business brands,
because not only does she have a wellness company, but
she also has a business that promotes manifestation courses and
goal setting so it makes sense for her to say
(10:58):
I set this goal and this, whereas with Sarah's day,
her brand is a little bit all over the place
in terms of she started out as a fitness influencer
and then she has really turned into this mummy vlogging
and wanting to be relatable, and so she keeps saying
it's like her yummy mummy car or whatever the inference is,
and most mums wouldn't have three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars to spend on a car. Yeah, because she's probably
(11:20):
picked up a lot of followers recently because she's been
sharing in a very raw manner about the issues she's
been having with her son's sleep and how he's got reflux,
and then they're probably like, hang on, what you can
afford a three hundred fifty thousand dollars car? You're not
one of us? Yeah. Well, there were some followers that
jump to Sarah's defense. So one wrote, why do people
get so triggered about how much someone else is willing
(11:41):
to spend on a car? Damn, And Sarah replied. In Australia,
we have this thing called tall poppy syndrome and it
is so real, particularly if you're female that has built
success from the ground up. I mean, there is a
lot of truth to what Sarah is saying. She has
got a point there now despite the negative commentary, this
is a real win for Sarah's channel. So at the
(12:02):
time of recording, the video has over a million views
on Instagram and great engagement. There's been heaps of likes,
particularly a lot of sendons. There's over two thousand send ons.
So it doesn't surprise me because everyone will be going, oh,
fuck off.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Continuing on the honesty train that I'm on.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Olivia Rodgers has revealed just how close she came to
calling off her wedding with Justin mckeirn. In an Instagram
Q and A, the former Miss Universe contestant, shared some
shocking revelations about what led to her marriage breakdown. Olivia's
update comes as her ex husband faces charges of stealing
almost half a million dollars from his former employer to
(12:43):
allegedly fund a very serious drug habit. Now, Kate, before
we get into what Olivia had to say, can you
bring us up to speed with this relationship. Yeah, So
the pan met in twenty eighteen and they dated for
four years before getting married in February twenty twenty two. Now,
the wedding looked absolutely picture perfect, like a Pinterest board,
so fans were absolutely shocked when Olivia announced the split
(13:05):
eight months later. Since then, Olivia has been pretty vague
about what caused the breakup. She did do a couple
of podcast interviews where she admitted to being miserable in
the relationship and said that there were a lot of
big issues. However, she never went into details about what
those problems were out of respect for Justin. One thing
she did open up about was her IVF journey with Justin,
(13:26):
so that journey ended up being the breaking point for
their marriage, when she realized the thought of falling pregnant
to him terrified her.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
On Tuesday Night, Olivia invited fans to ask her questions,
and as expected, she received an influx of questions about
her marriage breakdown. However, rather than ignoring them like usual,
she actually decided to speak her truth in a bid
to help others. Olivia wrote, my boundaries weren't being respected.
There were patterns of behavior I didn't agree with, and
(13:53):
I had to come to realize our values were not aligned.
Something significant happened in the relationship a couple of days
before the wedding. That was very upsetting for me. I
considered calling it off, but I felt like I had
too much to lose, not just for myself, but I
worried about how it would impact all of my family
and friends who had flown into state to be there
on the day, the money they would lose, etc. I'm
(14:15):
also an optimist, and I hope that things would improve. God,
would you like to know what actually happened? Like, it's
crazy to think because I was following Olivia and Justin
pretty closely at this time. I remember her Hen's party.
I remember the beautiful dress she wore. You actually bought
me a similar bride light up headband to her. Like
she was absolute bride inspo. Everyone was pinning her wedding.
(14:37):
She had the beautiful hydrangers, she had the two dresses.
Everything looked perfect. And to think that she'd been crying
herself to sleep the night before the wedding and this
big incident occurred just days before. It blows my mind.
It really does. And after going through the stress of
having a wedding before I would have said, oh, would
you just call it off? But there is a lot
of pressure on you, especially because a lot of Justin's
(14:59):
family were from per Yeah, and well her family were
from Adelaide. Yes, they held it in Melville so embarrassed,
and there'd be so much stress leading into the day
that she might have been thinking, well, maybe once we
get married, things will be better. And the only person
that she confided in leading into this wedding was her mom.
She said that her mum was actually quite supportive if
she wanted to call the wedding off. And she didn't
(15:20):
even tell her bridesmaids because she didn't want them feeling
uneasy on the day. And Olivia has gone on to
say that this was a big bread flag. So if
you're not willing to tell people that you're close to
what's actually going on, that would be really embarrassing. I
can see why she would have wanted to save face.
I mean, her maid of honor is meant to be
going up there and talking about their love story, and
if she's got in the back of her head or
Justin's been a complete dickhead, how they going to go down? Well? Yeah,
(15:42):
And after sharing the answer to this question, Olivia jumped
on her stories to add this, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Feeling really vulnerable after sharing that response that I just shared.
My hands are shaking, my heart is racing. I've never
answered a question. I've never answered those questions like that before.
So yeah, I feel vulnerable and I'm really attempted to
delete it, but I'm not going to do that now.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
The day after Olivia shared this Q and A, she
uploaded a TikTok where she shared five red flags to
look out for in a relationship, and she said this.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I think it's so hard to know when to get
out of a relationship. And I wondered so many times
over the last few years if maybe I'd seen more
content of people sharing red flags in relationships and why
they got out of relationships that I'm out of, paid
attention to it, and called off my wedding before getting
married to the wrong person.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Let's go through some of these red flags that Olivia shared.
So the first was if you feel more uncertain about
the relationship and you spend more time questioning it than
you do feeling content, that's a big one. Yeah. The
second was when you think about the future with that person,
you feel more uncertainty and you feel unsure about it
rather than feeling excited. I mean, what's disturbing is all
(16:59):
of the stuff that's come out about Justin recently. You
can see why these red flags were popping up. Yeah,
the next one was you don't feel that you can
communicate properly and you don't feel seen or heard when
you try to communicate with them. Number four, you feel
happier when you're away from that person and you feel
like you can be yourself. I actually resonate with that
one from a past relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Number five was if they cross your boundaries multiple times
and their behaviors do not change. I find the timing
of these revelations very interesting because, as we mentioned in
the intro, Justin mckin is facing some very serious theft allegations.
So in November, the Herald Son broke the news that
Justin had been accused of stealing almost half a million
(17:41):
dollars from his employer, Rocket Brands. So he worked as
the company's head of finance of five months before getting sacked,
and it's alleged that he spent the money on drugs,
alcohol and gambling. And one of the allegations that got
a lot of people talking was that he was apparently
sleeping in the work toilets for up to four hours
a day, accused of taking excessively long lunch breaks and
(18:02):
frequently leaving the office without completing his duties. This was
all whilst he was getting paid two hundred thousand dollars
a year. That'd be quite nice getting to have a
little nap in the toilet. So we're getting paid two
hundred k now in knocked over. His boss reported the
alleged theft to Victoria Police, which sparked a criminal investigation.
Justin was interviewed by detectives in early November, but criminal
(18:22):
charges have yet to be laid while the investigation continues. Well,
this is going to get really messy if there are
criminal charges laid, because this is when things start to
get more serious and jail time could actually be an
option if he was found guilty. Yeah. Well, he doesn't
appear to be taking it very seriously because he has
now failed to appear in court twice and it's believed
that the court is set to take his failure to
(18:43):
engage with the hearing as an acceptance of guilt. Well,
that's the thing. He hasn't made any public comments about it,
he hasn't denied it. Well, he's gone offline, so he
died his Instagram account. Didn't he make a new one
though that didn't have any followers. Yeah, Well, he ended
up reappearing back on Instagram to coincide with his girlfriend
Tani Leeson's pregnancy announcement, So he is expecting a child
(19:04):
soon and it's all getting very messy. I can understand
why Olivia has come out and shared these details because
she has been front and center of this coverage when
the news broke. I mean I really felt for her
because her photos were splashed everywhere in the news articles
about this. She was constantly referenced as his ex wife.
And I think by Olivia coming out and condemning Justin's behavior,
(19:27):
it really absolves her of guilt by association. Yeah, and
of course, I mean she has nothing to do with
this theft. She had been broken up with him for
several years. But his behavior really is in stark contrast
to the good girl image that she has cultivated for
herself online. So I think it's a good pr move
for Olivia to come out condemn his behavior and continue
(19:48):
to distance herself from him. And I think she must
feel safer to come out and talk about Justin after
all of these allegations we've recently heard because a lot
of people are thinking, well, he's clearly been the issue
in that relationship. Yeah, it's no longer all on her
because there was a time where it was like, oh,
what's wrong with her? Imagine lasts very long. Let's get
(20:10):
into a Friday debrief and I'm going to kick us
off with a bit of a story time. So currently,
we are undergoing some roof renovations at my house. We
had a leak and we got a guy in to
try and fix it. He went a little bit mia
and then suddenly one day I just looked out the
window and he was climbing on my roof fixing it.
So he didn't knock on the door, he didn't advise
(20:32):
Reese that he was coming over, And that's kuch scary
just to see some random on your roof. Well, I
was feeding Jack breakfast and I just hear this man
on the roof and I'm like, I'm practical, Yeah, I'm
pretty sure he's fixing it. Anyway, ended up going out
the front, had a great chat to him. He's a
lovely guy. Fast forward two weeks. The other day, I
was sitting on the couch and out of the corner
(20:53):
of my eye, this man is again trudging up into
our front yard. Doesn't come over, it doesn't wave to me, nothing.
He's holding a and then I hear him going up
on the roof again. I was like, oh, okay, whatever,
I'll just let him. Let him do what he needs
to do. I thought he had fixed the issue, but
obviously have come back. Then all of a sudden, I
hear this massive crash and I see the ladder fall down,
(21:13):
and I'm like, oh my god, the poor thing is
like trapped on the roof. I better go out there
and give him the ladder back. Anyway, it turns out
that he's also fallen off the roof. There's blood everywhere,
it's just spurting out of his leg. I'm like, are
you okay, And he's like, yeahah, I'm fine. And he's Scottish,
he's got the best accent. And I'm like, are you sure?
And I think he was trying to be really tough.
(21:35):
He's like, I'll go clear myself up. I've got some
bandages in the car. I feel like that's such a
man thing, isn't it. Just Oh No, I'm fine. I've
just like, taken a huge tumble off the roof, but
she'll be right. Anyway. I raced up the drive where
I tried to find some bandages. I came down. He's like,
are you a nurse. I'm like no, no, I just care.
I'm like, did you hit your head any anyway? He's
like no, I'm all good. I'll go back up there
and finish what I'm doing. And I'm like, oh my god. Anyway,
(21:56):
he went back up on the roof and then just left.
See this is somebody I want to employ to put
up my Christmas lights because this can do attitude. He's
nearly killed himself falling off your roof, but he's ready
to get the job done. Well, I've got two Friday
shares for you. One is that I'm just getting to
a point in pregnancy where I'm actually too embarrassed to
leave the house because the comments have now started. So
(22:18):
I had to go in to sort out my parental
leave pay, my government parental leave pay. Had to go
into centralingk which was just delightful. And I sat down
waiting for my meeting and another man, like I was
on my phone. I was you know, which is a
sign don't talk to me, yeah, which is the same
place don't talk to me. So there was a man
that was sitting across from me in his forties, and
(22:38):
he had taken a phone call and after he got
off the phone, he looked over at me and he said, geez,
your tummy's big. How far off are you?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Just what you want to hear. I just was like, no,
I haven't been feeling self conscious about waddling around today
at all. That's just made me feel so good about
myself anyway. So for some reason, I've then got starf
in this like fifteen minute conversation where he told me
all about his life, his two children. I was like,
I'm just trying to sit on my phone and disassociate, like,
(23:09):
please leave me alone. So, yes, the commentary is getting
so bad that I'm thinking for the next couple of
weeks i might just stay inside. And the other Friday
share is I'm just so disappointed that Megan markles jam
you cannot get it in Australia. So she finally released
her as ever products. So a jar of Meghan's jam
is setting people back fifteen US dollars. I was prepared
(23:31):
to pay that, but they're only delivering to the US. Well,
I quickly jumped on and the honey had already sold out,
which I expected because if it's honey from their house,
is that I don't know, is that what they're claiming?
Then yeah, of course people are going to want to
try that. And I was like, oh, the jam And
then I put it in my cart just to see
what the postage would be, and then I realized, yeah,
it doesn't come here, it's only a US. What do
you think about the flower sprinkles, because she's selling them
(23:53):
as well. They heavily featured throughout the show fifteen US dollars.
I'm not surprised by the cost of any of these.
I don't think it's that bad, to be honest. There
has been some debate online about whether this actually was
as big of a success as Megan has been portraying online, because,
as ever, the products all sold out. But people have
been saying, well, did she do the typical influencer marketing
(24:15):
thing and only release a small amount of products to
say that she's sold out or was it actually a success? Well,
I was half expecting her to do the thing that
Molly May did in her doco and film. How many
visitors were on the website and have a little freak
out about it. Like I think if she had done
that and we had seen the numbers, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
this was a huge success. But I think that's a
(24:35):
bit tacky though. But she's been doing all of those things,
like she's been tagging where all her clothes are from.
She is an influencer now, and that's normally what influencers do.
Maybe we might see it popping up as content on
her Instagram soon. I think she needs to do that
in order to strengthen the brand and be like, yeap,
I've got a lot of power here. But the question
mark is there considering these products are jam and honey. Well,
(24:58):
it had to be a success, didn't it, because if
these products had just sat on her website, the media
would have had a huge field day. Yeah. Well, Megan
seems to be in the habit of resharing people's stories
that they tager in, so it'll be quite telling when
the product rolls out to see how many people tager. Well,
we're going to see this all over TikTok. I think
so many people would have bought it just to do
a taste test. Yeah, well, that's where we're going to
(25:19):
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