November 6, 2025 • 25 mins
Veruca Salt has shocked her followers by marrying a man she met just two weeks ago. The TikToker met the unknown man while she was holidaying in Los Angeles.
Bachelor alumni Lee Elliot has been spotted with a new woman at the Melbourne Cup. The ex-husband of Georgia Love shared a photo to his Instagram story with his arm wrapped around the attractive blonde.
Kate Jones, better known as Dedikated Lifestyle, shocked her followers on Sunday night by revealing she’s pregnant with her first child. The popular influencer shared a reel showcasing special moments from the first trimester with the caption, “The biggest *little* secret we’ve ever had to keep.”
Hilary Duff has dropped her first single in 10 years. Entitled ‘Mature’, the single was created alongside her music producer husband, Matthew Koma.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Rukus Salt's
Shock Vegas wedding, Abby Chatfield's surprise feature in Adam Hyde's
new song, Los Curtis's breast implant saga, and our Friday
news Dump. But First Bachelor alumni Lee Elliott has been
(00:25):
spotted with a new woman at the Melbourne Cup. The
ex husband of Georgia Love shared a photo to his
Instagram story with his arm wrapped around the attractive blonde.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This new certainly puts the Carrie bit More rumors to bed,
because it was only a few months ago that Woman's
Day sent the rumor meal into overdrive when they reported
that Lee was spending time at Carrie's house. It seemed
like there was something in it when Lee was spotted
liking Carrie's Instagram posts of her at the Logis, but
they ended up attending the Melbourne Cup separately, and Lee
then uploaded a photo with this new blonde. I really
(00:57):
felt for Georgia Love when I saw this photo because
the woman is stunning. So her name is Mimi Hoyle
and she's got around five thousand followers on Instagram and
we've done a little bit of stalking. So she works
at a creative agency called plenty of and it specializes
in hospitality and wellness. Her Instagram feed is so aesthetically pleasing.
It's full of all these fancy photos of her at
(01:19):
all of these different girlfriends. Hen's dous a lot of
apparel spritzers. It appears like she lives in Sydney and
Lee is from Melbourne, so I'm not sure what's going
on there. Maybe another Raya situation. Yeah, she seems very
influencer adjacent though, so she is followed by Bailey Smith Live,
Kelly Matt, Paul mitch Orville, Khan Oh. Bailey has been
(01:40):
chucking her some likes recently, so I'm assuming she is
single and is now dating Lee Elliot. Kay, you said
that her page was very aesthetic, but I did the
old scroll back. I went back about ten years and
it was hilarious because I was basically trying to work
out how old she is. I think she's about thirty,
so still about twelve years younger than Lee Elliot. But
(02:00):
the photos were just not as polished as they are now.
It's interesting because we had an insider contact us that
knows Mimi and the tip off is that she comes
from a wealthy family and is in her mid twenties.
So yeah, I'm not sure how old she actually is.
I'm guessing around twenty seven. She looks around her life.
I'm pretty sure. I went back and there were school
(02:20):
formal photos, so oh wow, Okay, well that would have
made sense if that was ten years ago. Maybe I'm
on the money. I noticed that she spent Christmas in
New York in twenty twenty four, and Georgia Love of course,
went to New York for Christmas. I wonder if they
ran into each other. It is a pretty big city, kay.
I've got to add though, just when you said her name,
Mimi Hoyle, that is a very rich sounding name. Yeah
(02:40):
it is. I mean she gives off old money vibes.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Get ready with me to get married to a man
I met two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Vrukas Salt has shocked her followers by marrying a man
she met just two weeks ago. The TikToker met the
unknown man while she was holidaying in Los Angeles. Now,
before we get into the wedding Kate, can you get
listeners to speed with? Who Veruka is well? Her real
name is Kimberly Summer Hartley and she is a twenty
six year old influencer from the Gold Coast who is
(03:08):
known for being controversial. Her social media career actually took
off in twenty nineteen when she sparked a national manhunt
after disappearing from a wedding. So Veruka was found by
police a week later, working out of brothel in Woollongong
and at the time, she said she had flown out
for work but left her phone at the wedding hotel,
(03:28):
and she claimed she was just waiting for it to
be posted back to her. So after gaining notoriety from
the media attention, Veruka began an OnlyFans account and became
one of the platform's top creators. Over the years, she
has built an engaged audience on social media, with one
point four million followers on TikTok and five hundred and
seventy one on Instagram. I need to point out vukas
(03:49):
Sell is, of course one of the characters in Willy Wonker.
She's a spoiler little girl. I do love the stage name.
It always makes you laugh when I see it. You
think there's some gen Zettas who haven't heard of Willy
Wonka and the chocolate factory don't get it, but they
actually think potentially. Yeah, well, very sadly. Veruka's name made
headlines again in twenty twenty four after she tragically lost
her six week old son Cash to SIDS, and since
(04:11):
then she has openly shared her experience with grief and
her desire to have another baby. She even started a
go fund Me page at the start of the year
asking for donations to make that possible. Yeah, and she
ended up raising ten thousand dollars and she flew out
to the US in May to undergo fertility treatment, and
at the time she was accused of using the donated
money to fund a holiday and to add salt to
(04:34):
the wound. And this is no pun intended. Veruka flew
back home in business class.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I don't know if it was the best idea to
share that, particularly because she ended up going on two
more trips to the US and documenting those now. In August,
Varuka addressed the speculation around her trips and she revealed
sadly the fertility treatment didn't work and since then she's
come to the realization that she isn't in the right
head space to have another baby. She also revealed the
(05:00):
her two most recent trips to the US were actually
paid for by a rapper who flew her out on
two separate occasions. Now, apparently things didn't go too well
with the rapper on the second trip, and he had
flown her to New York, so she traveled to la
and that is where she spent the last couple of months,
trying to find herself and having some fun. Now that
fund includes going on lots of dates, and that's how
(05:22):
we get to her new husband. So originally Ruka shared
on TikTok that she needed a vacation boyfriend, but she's
now ended up with a vacation husband. It's just reminding
me of Chloe and Lamar because they got married after
two weeks of knowing each other. Probably this wedding didn't
have as much fanfare as they had. It definitely didn't.
I mean it was in Vegas. I think that says
a lot about it. Now in terms of the groom,
(05:43):
not much as known about him. He is American and
he goes by the TikTok handle Digi premium. He has
just two thousand followers on TikTok, so he's not an
influencer and he doesn't post that often. She should give
him a Willie Wonker style nickname. What do we think,
Augustus glup or just charge. I like Augusta's glope. I
love that now. The anonymous man first appeared on Varuka's
(06:05):
social media in October while she was holidaying in La
She referred to him as her sexy ass boyfriend now
from a timeline perspective. They met on the twenty eighth
of September and got married fourteen days later on the
twelfth of October. It wasn't until the second of November
that Varuka shocked her followers by unexpectedly announcing that they
(06:25):
got married. That video has since gone viral and at
the time of recording, has four million views. In the video,
Veruka admitted that she knew it was crazy, but she
was just having fun. Let's take a listen to more
of what she said.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I am fully aware how insane this is. I want
to make that really clear, but there is just like
a feeling in me that just feels like this is
like the pop I'm supposed to take. I don't know
how to explain it, like I just had a weird
vibe about it, and obviously I'm scared, Like that's normal.
I think you're supposed to be a little nervous on
your waiting day.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
As she mentioned anything about where they're going to live,
like is this guy moving into Australia? Is she going
to move to the US. So there are a lot
of comments, as you can expect following this video, and
she ended up replying to one of the comments that said,
what's going on with your pets? And she said that
she currently has a friend staying at her house who's
looking after her animals and then she will look to
(07:19):
ship them over to the US because she's moving to
the US. That you know, it's crazy because at first
I thought, oh, this is just some sort of scandal
for TikTok, like she hasn't actually gotten married, this is
just the views. Well, I was wondering if it's legal because,
as I touched on before, they got married in the
Little White Wedding Chapel in Las Vegas, which is a
pretty famous chapel there, and Rucas said it really suited
(07:40):
her because it was this Vegas rock star wedding and
it suited her new husband as well, which a lot
of people were like, oh, he doesn't give off rockstar
mines to me, she's obviously got the rose colored glasses
on at the moment. I just love how she's like, oh,
you know, as there's a couple, it suits us. You've
known the guy for two weeks. You probably haven't even
met his parents. Well in saying that, Veruka actually flew
her mum out for the occasion and she was there
(08:01):
by her daughter's side. She was thrilled. Well, she looked
pretty happy, to be honest. I mean, I suppose she's
just supporting her daughter. But I was like, is this
wedding legal, particularly because it's in Vegas? And I did
some research and Australia does recognize overseas marriages as long
as it's valid under the laws of the country they
were married in, as well as valid under Australian law. Basically,
(08:21):
that means they don't recognize weddings that happen in different
countries where the age of marriage is a lot lower
than Australian. There's other rules. It's a little whitechapel that's
a very famous spot in Las Vegas, I mean Britney
Spears has got married there. Kim Kardashian, Yeah, it's a
legit spot. So it seems like yes, Australia will recognize
the wedding as legal, but the issue is around getting
a US visa, So marrying a US citizen doesn't automatically
(08:44):
grant any immigration rights in the country. Varuka will need
to apply for the appropriate visa, which will be assessed
on their own merits, not merely because the marriage exists.
I mean, just think about ninety Day Fiance. That's what
I think of. I mean, how good would she be
on that series? Though I've got their pissed that they
actually got married at the Little White Chapel. Well, a
lot of her followers said the same thing. They're like,
oh my god, you would have been amazing on ninety
(09:06):
Day Fiance. In terms of the reaction from her followers,
it is quite divided. So some of her followers are
saying they're happy for her, while most warned that she
was making a mistake. One person wrote, girl, please be careful.
This sounds like love bombing now. The newly Words actually
poked fun at this suggestion, sharing a video from the
wedding with the caption two love bombers that met two
(09:28):
weeks ago. Now, a lot of people are commenting saying,
oh my god, I hope you have a prenup. Another
popular comment was nobody falls in love faster than a
man with no place to stay now. Veruka addressed this
comment directly on TikTok, revealing that she was currently staying
at her husband's house, so it was her that needed
a place to stay. She also explained that she hadn't
(09:48):
been posting content with her husband because he's scared of
her fans. Well, I'm kind of on the side of
the concerned fans. I mean, anyone who says I've met
a man and I'm marrying them two weeks later, I
think there are flags that are waving in the wind there.
I mean, obviously, Verruka is going through a lot. She's
been very open about the fact and the fact that
(10:09):
she was recently going through fertility treatment. Now she's decided
that she no longer wants to go down that avenue
at the moment, and then rushed into this wedding. It
seems like she doesn't quite know what she wants. I
agree that she should just be having fun, but I
feel like this has almost been taken a little bit far.
I mean, I was wondering if it's a bit of
a content opportunity because, as I said earlier, the announcement
(10:29):
video got four million views, while all the subsequent videos
have also been getting millions of views. Hillary Duff is
set to release her first single in ten years now.
When you hear this, the single will be out there.
It's entitled Mature, but we have not heard it yet
at the time of recording. It was created alongside her
music producer husband, Matthew Comer, and I'm expecting big things
(10:51):
from this single. Well. He worked on Hillary's most recent album,
which was one ten years ago, and it didn't fare
as well as others. But I think that's a bit
of an unfair reflection in his work because you know,
the first couple were released when she was in her
absolute problem. Most people have said that that album was
actually very underrated. If you go back and listen to
(11:11):
it, it had a lot of bangers. I love the snippet
that Hillary shared from the recording studio with her and
her husband because they're having a bit of a laugh
about the song being called mature, and he made a
little bit of a potshot of oh all the songs,
so she actually let's throw it at the clip. I
feel like it's the rate for a smith. I think,
so you do.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Your mature goal, You're.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Gonna die to mate? Is your last day on earth?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Did you know you're unmature? Gal?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You're dead? How cute is Hillary Duft's voice? Like it
just takes me back to my childhood? Well, I mean
teenage years. She could be eleven. If I close my eyes,
she could still be eleven. Well, yes, Kate, she still
does have the same voice as she did when she
was on Lizimigo. I love Hillary Duff. I think OG
listeners will remember we actually met Hillary Duff. How many
(12:07):
years was it like twenty years ago? I don't want
to do the sums, but they were probably I think
we were seventeen at the time. But we were obsessed
with her, so this was like the biggest thing ever
that we actually got to meet her. We had stalked
her out her hotel and we happened to be walking
past at the exact same moment she and her bodyguard
Troy were walking out. I just remember she smelt so
good and she of course had her perfume with Love out,
(12:29):
but she wasn't wearing with Love. It was a different
sort of vanilla y perfume. Maybe it was like that
tom Ford vanilla per Maybe it was just maybe it
was just her sweat. It's like she wasn't even wearing,
probably just her well. In an interview with Variety, Hillary
said that she always knew she was going to return
to music. She said, I needed to feel safe, and
I needed to have the right people in my corner
and be absolutely one hundred percent ready. She went on
(12:51):
to say that the album feels like the inner workings
of her brain, and she's so excited to connect with
people again on that level. I can't get over how
good Hillary looks at the moment. She doesn't look like
she's aged a day since she last released music, Like
it's absolutely insane. Oh, she has always looked good. I'm
really interested to see how this album goes for Hillary.
(13:12):
I actually think it's gonna be a big hit because
we have seen a lot of demand online for Hillary
to release something, and we're also seeing a lot of
other artists from the early twenty and twenty tens having revivals,
like I am seeing Jesse McCartney everywhere on TikTok. He's
currently touring in the US at the moment, and according
to Rolling Stone, Hillary Duff's Spotify searches have gone up
(13:33):
by four hundred percent since she announced her music comeback.
I mean the docuseries following Hillary's personal life and return
to the studio is also going to help dramatically. So
the series is directed by Sam Brench, who worked on
Sabrina Carpenter's Christmas Special as well as Taylor Swift's Eras movie,
So she's in very good company. I cannot wait for
(13:53):
this to be released because do you remember back in
the day, we had that DBD that went behind the
scenes of Hillary's tour and I remember this specific scene.
She was walking in the stiletto knee high boots and
she's got the shoe stuck in what is it like
a man whole kind of thing. Yeah, it was bloody hilarious.
It's actually sad how obsessed we used to be with
(14:14):
Hillary stuff. I wanted a toll but I don't think
she will come to Australia because she has got four children. Now,
don't put that negative energy out. She can bring the
kids with her. Yeah, one of them is in high
school interview back in the day that she did on
Rove and she was obsessed with Hallo Kitty and she
was talking about how she had a hallow Kitty sandwich
makeer no toaster and we went out and found the
exact same toaster. Sorry, I'm making it sing with absolute weirdos,
(14:37):
but well, I mean, if the shoe fits. Abby Chatfield's
boyfriend Adam Hyde, has revealed an audio snippet of he
and Abby having sex will feature in his new song More.
Speaking on the Stellar podcast, Adam, who's better known by
his stage name Kelly Holiday, so the idea came to
him whilst he was having sex. It's pretty funny because
Abby compared the experience of hearing the snippet to hearing
(14:58):
your own voice on a mic crophone, but a million
times worse. Sin said her mum isn't allowed to listen
to the song. Just this whole thing makes it feel
really uncomfortable, like imagine being like, okay, yep, hit record.
I mean it just all seems very performative, Like it's
not like going to be a natural song, was it.
I think they were halfway through when he decided to
press record and apparently you can't actually hear that much
(15:19):
because it's muffled by the bed sheets covering the microphone.
I mean, it doesn't personally make me go I really
want to listen to this song. I must say. I
do really like his current song that's up for an
ARIA Award Dancing. Well, that's about Abby. That's a beautiful song.
Everyone got behind that song. I wonder how this one
is going to fair because I mean, to be honest,
Abby isn't very popular at the moment on TikTok after
(15:40):
the defamation case, and then there was also that stolen
necklacing that she was dragged into completely unfairly. She had
nothing to do with it, but she seems to have
been copying so much trolling recently. Yeah, I feel for
Abby because it seems like everyone has just used the
past couple of weeks as an opportunity to pile on her.
Megan is reportedly set to make a return to acting
(16:03):
eight years after quitting hit show Suits to join the
Royal Family. The Sun is reporting that Megan will appear
alongside Lily Collins, Bree Lassen, Henry Golding and Jack Quaid
in the upcoming movie Close Personal Friends. She will be
playing herself. Though. It's gonna be interesting to see how
Meghan fits into this movie because it is a rom
com about two couples. One of the couples is meant
(16:25):
to be famous, so perhaps she's a friend. Yeah, maybe
they come out to her Montecito home and have a
dinner party or something. I think it's really interesting when
celebrities play themselves in a TV show or a movie
because it's quite reflective of how they see themselves or
if they take the piss out of themselves. Well, this
news actually comes off the back of Harry and Meghan
(16:46):
being booed at the La Dodgers game. Did you see
Meghan's new Instagram story this week? It was of her
and Harry celebrating the Dodgers win in what appeared to
be their movie room. I saw that, but I didn't
know the context. I was like, Oh, has Netflix actually
done a backflip and they're going to Yeah, what are
they celebrating? Get her showed return or something. I've seen
quite a few impersonations of this moment on TikTok and
(17:09):
for those who haven't seen it, it's a shot of
Megan and a friend jumping out of their seats celebrating
and Harry appears quite subdued in the vision. I mean,
to me, it just looked like Harry was like every
other husband who didn't want to be filmed for Instagram.
He was kind of just happy chilling on the couch. Yeah,
but let's remember he's English. He probably doesn't give a
shit about the La Dodgers. Maybe if it was like
a soccer merche or something. Former Love Islander Chris Hughes
(17:32):
has opened up about his mental health in a recent podcast.
The thirty two year old, who's better known as Jojo
Siewa's boyfriend, revealed former one direction At Liam Payne reached
out to him following a terrible period in his life.
So Chris told the podcast that he'd been involved in
a stoush with the paparazzi a few years ago and
received backlash online. Let's have a listen to what he said.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But obviously, you know, seeing everything what happened to him
was just obviously extremely ubsane for me, millions and millions
of people. But knowing he cared about, like my mental
health at the time was yeah, it was tough, and
that was tough. When I saw the news about him
because he reached He sent me a message and Pacey said,
look stay strong, like, don't worry about what you know,
(18:16):
what people are saying to you, essentially along the lines of
like I know. He actually sent me in the morning
the morning after that incident and was just like, no,
you'll be anxious. It happens. It's normal, which is basically
normalized it to make me feel better, which I thought
was says a lot about the person's character.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yet Yeah. Now, Chris went on to explain that he'd
only ever met Liam once a few years earlier, and
this showed what an amazing person he was to reach
out to him. It seems like a lot of people
have recently been coming out interviews and sharing their experience
with Liam Pain and it just seems like he was
such a lovely guy that was really misunderstood. Just makes
(18:52):
this whole situation even sadder. Los Curtis has revealed she's
considering having her breast implants removed. It's interesting because she
actually got them done in Thailand in twenty eleven, and
now she's received a quote from an Australian surgeon for
twenty one thousand dollars for the explant. Surgery. Now, she
told her followers she was tempted to go back to
(19:14):
Thailand to get the ex plant surgery. However, she didn't
like the idea of staying in Thailand for ten days.
She said, last time, it felt like she was there
for months and months. I was pretty surprised that she
was even considering that, especially considering how much Sky Wheatley
has spoken about her botch surgery in Asia. The whole
thing just sounds so frustrating because obviously she didn't have
a great time after she got the breast implants. Now
(19:36):
having to go back to remove them, it would just
be such an awful experience. It's something we're seeing a
lot of influencers go through, and I'm glad that they
do document it because it seems full circle. Like if
you shared when you got them, I think it's only
fair to share your experience getting them removed. Kate Jones,
better known as Dedicated Lifestyle, shocked her followers on Sunday
(19:57):
night by revealing she's pregnant with her first child. The
popular influencers shared a real showcasing special moments from the
first trimester, with the caption the biggest little secret We've
ever had to keep she really managed to pull the
wool over a follower's eyes because she's only just gotten
back from a trip to the US, which she fully
vlogged on YouTube and shared across her social media. A
(20:18):
lot of her followers were like, oh my god, how
did you not manage to raise suspicion, So, she said
she ended up wearing a lot of baggy clothes and
mostly posed for photos with her back to the camera
looking over her shoulder. She also said it makes a
big difference when you're in control of the angles when
you're vlogging, and it really shows you can't trust anything
on social media, like everyone is manipulating the angles. It's
like that trend on TikTok where the husband's put up.
(20:40):
This is what my wife looks like on Instagram. This
is what she looks like sitting on the couch. It's
like this is first looks like completely different. They've always
got an oootie or like a rug on. I am
someone even now that it's getting slightly warmer and out laid.
I mean, that's a bit of a joke. The weather's
been shit, but I always have to have a rug on.
I'm actually recording from my couch now with a rug on.
It's like my acute you like ninety of her. You
(21:01):
were saying the other day, how you suddenly feil old, Kate,
I think that's actually just confirmed it. Well, I'm mixing
it up by having a squish mallow behind me. I
feel like it keeps me. I think that's just sad.
Kate thought. I actually thought you were gonna say about
uddies that they're a birth control device. That's what some
of my friends have been selling, that they're like, no
one actually looks good in an audio. Anyway, back to
(21:23):
Kate Jones's pregnancy announcement. So I really enjoyed the announcement.
I loved Kate's real especially the appearance of her two
sausage dogs. Oh my gosh, they were the hugest sausage
dogs I've ever seen. I'm wondering how they're gonna deal
with it because I feel like sausage dogs are a
little bit overprotective of their owners. Oh, I think that'll
be fine. I loved the video where she shared the
(21:43):
news to her friends and family because quite a few
influencers made the cut, so Britney Saunders, Matt Hay and
Georgie Stevenson were all in it, and it's quite funny
because Kate captured the video made the most amount of
fucks you'll ever hear in a video, and she was
not wrong. All of her friends are like, fuck off,
fucked just so good well as life milestones do. The
(22:04):
reel got a huge response from Kate's followers, so to
put it into perspective, she has one hundred and ninety
six thousand followers and this reel got over thirty two
thousand likes as well as notching up three hundred and
sixty thousand views. From a social media perspective, that is
really strong engagement. Now, the influencers were out in full
force congratulating Kate as she binds. Georgia Richards, m Davey,
(22:27):
Simote Anderson, Olivia White's so vidoph and Britney Saunders were
among the well wishers. Now. On Tuesday night, Kate actually
jumped on her Instagram story and apologized to her followers
for dropping such big news and then ghosting everyone, particularly
since it was such a hard launch and she hadn't
dropped any clues in the leader. She was also going
on about how weird it was that everyone knew now
(22:47):
because she'd been sitting on the news for so long.
The following day, she gave her followers what they were
calling out for and did an Instagram Q and A
where she answered everyone's questions. So what we found out
is the baby is due in April, and she was
feeling a lot better now that she's in the second trimester. Unfortunately,
between week six and thirteen, she was suffering from morning sickness.
(23:07):
She also touched on briefly that her and her husband
Nick had taken a little bit longer than they expected
to in their trying to conceive journey, but they were
so grateful that they naturally conceived, and she said that
she would be keeping that journey a private one. Let's
get into our Friday debrief and Amy, I'm still feeling
so nostalgic from yesterday because we filmed a very special
(23:29):
project with Wilson. They've recently opened a new store in
Burnside Village which is absolutely beautiful. I'm obsessed with everything
in it, and we ended up going down to the
old tennis courts at our high school to shoot the vision.
We picked the worst possible timing because it was just
as a school bell rang and all the students were
coming out us having PTSD from my high school experience. Yeah,
(23:51):
it would have been all right if we were just
going down for a legitimate hit of tennis. But we
had like my big cameras. We were filming something quite funny.
At one stage it was a little girl who was
watching because we were throwing tennis balls at Sophia's part
of the video. But this was such a dream collaboration.
Like we got an email this week being like, oh,
you know, would you like to work with Wilson, And
being a huge tennis lover, I was like, are you serious,
(24:14):
Like is this actually for real? Yeah, because when we
were eighteen at UNI, we used to go down to
the local tennis courts and have a hit every night
until it got dark, then we drive home. I remember
this phase of having like vanilla coc and baked beans
as well. Like it was just it's just that that
time is just so it was fresh in my mind.
It was so long ago. Open Well, you have to
say tuned for what we were filming down out of
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the tennis cause I personally think it was pretty funny.
I think that is all we have time for today, though,
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pay respect to elders past and present
Speaker 2 (25:00):
All super times, many times
Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Rukus Salt's
Shock Vegas wedding, Abby Chatfield's surprise feature in Adam Hyde's
new song, Los Curtis's breast implant saga, and our Friday
news Dump. But First Bachelor alumni Lee Elliott has been
(00:25):
spotted with a new woman at the Melbourne Cup. The
ex husband of Georgia Love shared a photo to his
Instagram story with his arm wrapped around the attractive blonde.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This new certainly puts the Carrie bit More rumors to bed,
because it was only a few months ago that Woman's
Day sent the rumor meal into overdrive when they reported
that Lee was spending time at Carrie's house. It seemed
like there was something in it when Lee was spotted
liking Carrie's Instagram posts of her at the Logis, but
they ended up attending the Melbourne Cup separately, and Lee
then uploaded a photo with this new blonde. I really
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felt for Georgia Love when I saw this photo because
the woman is stunning. So her name is Mimi Hoyle
and she's got around five thousand followers on Instagram and
we've done a little bit of stalking. So she works
at a creative agency called plenty of and it specializes
in hospitality and wellness. Her Instagram feed is so aesthetically pleasing.
It's full of all these fancy photos of her at
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all of these different girlfriends. Hen's dous a lot of
apparel spritzers. It appears like she lives in Sydney and
Lee is from Melbourne, so I'm not sure what's going
on there. Maybe another Raya situation. Yeah, she seems very
influencer adjacent though, so she is followed by Bailey Smith Live,
Kelly Matt, Paul mitch Orville, Khan Oh. Bailey has been
(01:40):
chucking her some likes recently, so I'm assuming she is
single and is now dating Lee Elliot. Kay, you said
that her page was very aesthetic, but I did the
old scroll back. I went back about ten years and
it was hilarious because I was basically trying to work
out how old she is. I think she's about thirty,
so still about twelve years younger than Lee Elliot. But
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the photos were just not as polished as they are now.
It's interesting because we had an insider contact us that
knows Mimi and the tip off is that she comes
from a wealthy family and is in her mid twenties.
So yeah, I'm not sure how old she actually is.
I'm guessing around twenty seven. She looks around her life.
I'm pretty sure. I went back and there were school
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formal photos, so oh wow, Okay, well that would have
made sense if that was ten years ago. Maybe I'm
on the money. I noticed that she spent Christmas in
New York in twenty twenty four, and Georgia Love of course,
went to New York for Christmas. I wonder if they
ran into each other. It is a pretty big city, kay.
I've got to add though, just when you said her name,
Mimi Hoyle, that is a very rich sounding name. Yeah
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it is. I mean she gives off old money vibes.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Get ready with me to get married to a man
I met two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Vrukas Salt has shocked her followers by marrying a man
she met just two weeks ago. The TikToker met the
unknown man while she was holidaying in Los Angeles. Now,
before we get into the wedding Kate, can you get
listeners to speed with? Who Veruka is well? Her real
name is Kimberly Summer Hartley and she is a twenty
six year old influencer from the Gold Coast who is
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known for being controversial. Her social media career actually took
off in twenty nineteen when she sparked a national manhunt
after disappearing from a wedding. So Veruka was found by
police a week later, working out of brothel in Woollongong
and at the time, she said she had flown out
for work but left her phone at the wedding hotel,
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and she claimed she was just waiting for it to
be posted back to her. So after gaining notoriety from
the media attention, Veruka began an OnlyFans account and became
one of the platform's top creators. Over the years, she
has built an engaged audience on social media, with one
point four million followers on TikTok and five hundred and
seventy one on Instagram. I need to point out vukas
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Sell is, of course one of the characters in Willy Wonker.
She's a spoiler little girl. I do love the stage name.
It always makes you laugh when I see it. You
think there's some gen Zettas who haven't heard of Willy
Wonka and the chocolate factory don't get it, but they
actually think potentially. Yeah, well, very sadly. Veruka's name made
headlines again in twenty twenty four after she tragically lost
her six week old son Cash to SIDS, and since
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then she has openly shared her experience with grief and
her desire to have another baby. She even started a
go fund Me page at the start of the year
asking for donations to make that possible. Yeah, and she
ended up raising ten thousand dollars and she flew out
to the US in May to undergo fertility treatment, and
at the time she was accused of using the donated
money to fund a holiday and to add salt to
(04:34):
the wound. And this is no pun intended. Veruka flew
back home in business class.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I don't know if it was the best idea to
share that, particularly because she ended up going on two
more trips to the US and documenting those now. In August,
Varuka addressed the speculation around her trips and she revealed
sadly the fertility treatment didn't work and since then she's
come to the realization that she isn't in the right
head space to have another baby. She also revealed the
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her two most recent trips to the US were actually
paid for by a rapper who flew her out on
two separate occasions. Now, apparently things didn't go too well
with the rapper on the second trip, and he had
flown her to New York, so she traveled to la
and that is where she spent the last couple of months,
trying to find herself and having some fun. Now that
fund includes going on lots of dates, and that's how
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we get to her new husband. So originally Ruka shared
on TikTok that she needed a vacation boyfriend, but she's
now ended up with a vacation husband. It's just reminding
me of Chloe and Lamar because they got married after
two weeks of knowing each other. Probably this wedding didn't
have as much fanfare as they had. It definitely didn't.
I mean it was in Vegas. I think that says
a lot about it. Now in terms of the groom,
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not much as known about him. He is American and
he goes by the TikTok handle Digi premium. He has
just two thousand followers on TikTok, so he's not an
influencer and he doesn't post that often. She should give
him a Willie Wonker style nickname. What do we think,
Augustus glup or just charge. I like Augusta's glope. I
love that now. The anonymous man first appeared on Varuka's
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social media in October while she was holidaying in La
She referred to him as her sexy ass boyfriend now
from a timeline perspective. They met on the twenty eighth
of September and got married fourteen days later on the
twelfth of October. It wasn't until the second of November
that Varuka shocked her followers by unexpectedly announcing that they
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got married. That video has since gone viral and at
the time of recording, has four million views. In the video,
Veruka admitted that she knew it was crazy, but she
was just having fun. Let's take a listen to more
of what she said.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I am fully aware how insane this is. I want
to make that really clear, but there is just like
a feeling in me that just feels like this is
like the pop I'm supposed to take. I don't know
how to explain it, like I just had a weird
vibe about it, and obviously I'm scared, Like that's normal.
I think you're supposed to be a little nervous on
your waiting day.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
As she mentioned anything about where they're going to live,
like is this guy moving into Australia? Is she going
to move to the US. So there are a lot
of comments, as you can expect following this video, and
she ended up replying to one of the comments that said,
what's going on with your pets? And she said that
she currently has a friend staying at her house who's
looking after her animals and then she will look to
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ship them over to the US because she's moving to
the US. That you know, it's crazy because at first
I thought, oh, this is just some sort of scandal
for TikTok, like she hasn't actually gotten married, this is
just the views. Well, I was wondering if it's legal because,
as I touched on before, they got married in the
Little White Wedding Chapel in Las Vegas, which is a
pretty famous chapel there, and Rucas said it really suited
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her because it was this Vegas rock star wedding and
it suited her new husband as well, which a lot
of people were like, oh, he doesn't give off rockstar
mines to me, she's obviously got the rose colored glasses
on at the moment. I just love how she's like, oh,
you know, as there's a couple, it suits us. You've
known the guy for two weeks. You probably haven't even
met his parents. Well in saying that, Veruka actually flew
her mum out for the occasion and she was there
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by her daughter's side. She was thrilled. Well, she looked
pretty happy, to be honest. I mean, I suppose she's
just supporting her daughter. But I was like, is this
wedding legal, particularly because it's in Vegas? And I did
some research and Australia does recognize overseas marriages as long
as it's valid under the laws of the country they
were married in, as well as valid under Australian law. Basically,
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that means they don't recognize weddings that happen in different
countries where the age of marriage is a lot lower
than Australian. There's other rules. It's a little whitechapel that's
a very famous spot in Las Vegas, I mean Britney
Spears has got married there. Kim Kardashian, Yeah, it's a
legit spot. So it seems like yes, Australia will recognize
the wedding as legal, but the issue is around getting
a US visa, So marrying a US citizen doesn't automatically
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grant any immigration rights in the country. Varuka will need
to apply for the appropriate visa, which will be assessed
on their own merits, not merely because the marriage exists.
I mean, just think about ninety Day Fiance. That's what
I think of. I mean, how good would she be
on that series? Though I've got their pissed that they
actually got married at the Little White Chapel. Well, a
lot of her followers said the same thing. They're like,
oh my god, you would have been amazing on ninety
(09:06):
Day Fiance. In terms of the reaction from her followers,
it is quite divided. So some of her followers are
saying they're happy for her, while most warned that she
was making a mistake. One person wrote, girl, please be careful.
This sounds like love bombing now. The newly Words actually
poked fun at this suggestion, sharing a video from the
wedding with the caption two love bombers that met two
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weeks ago. Now, a lot of people are commenting saying,
oh my god, I hope you have a prenup. Another
popular comment was nobody falls in love faster than a
man with no place to stay now. Veruka addressed this
comment directly on TikTok, revealing that she was currently staying
at her husband's house, so it was her that needed
a place to stay. She also explained that she hadn't
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been posting content with her husband because he's scared of
her fans. Well, I'm kind of on the side of
the concerned fans. I mean, anyone who says I've met
a man and I'm marrying them two weeks later, I
think there are flags that are waving in the wind there.
I mean, obviously, Verruka is going through a lot. She's
been very open about the fact and the fact that
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she was recently going through fertility treatment. Now she's decided
that she no longer wants to go down that avenue
at the moment, and then rushed into this wedding. It
seems like she doesn't quite know what she wants. I
agree that she should just be having fun, but I
feel like this has almost been taken a little bit far.
I mean, I was wondering if it's a bit of
a content opportunity because, as I said earlier, the announcement
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video got four million views, while all the subsequent videos
have also been getting millions of views. Hillary Duff is
set to release her first single in ten years now.
When you hear this, the single will be out there.
It's entitled Mature, but we have not heard it yet
at the time of recording. It was created alongside her
music producer husband, Matthew Comer, and I'm expecting big things
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from this single. Well. He worked on Hillary's most recent album,
which was one ten years ago, and it didn't fare
as well as others. But I think that's a bit
of an unfair reflection in his work because you know,
the first couple were released when she was in her
absolute problem. Most people have said that that album was
actually very underrated. If you go back and listen to
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it, it had a lot of bangers. I love the snippet
that Hillary shared from the recording studio with her and
her husband because they're having a bit of a laugh
about the song being called mature, and he made a
little bit of a potshot of oh all the songs,
so she actually let's throw it at the clip. I
feel like it's the rate for a smith. I think,
so you do.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Your mature goal, You're.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Gonna die to mate? Is your last day on earth?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Did you know you're unmature? Gal?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You're dead? How cute is Hillary Duft's voice? Like it
just takes me back to my childhood? Well, I mean
teenage years. She could be eleven. If I close my eyes,
she could still be eleven. Well, yes, Kate, she still
does have the same voice as she did when she
was on Lizimigo. I love Hillary Duff. I think OG
listeners will remember we actually met Hillary Duff. How many
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years was it like twenty years ago? I don't want
to do the sums, but they were probably I think
we were seventeen at the time. But we were obsessed
with her, so this was like the biggest thing ever
that we actually got to meet her. We had stalked
her out her hotel and we happened to be walking
past at the exact same moment she and her bodyguard
Troy were walking out. I just remember she smelt so
good and she of course had her perfume with Love out,
(12:29):
but she wasn't wearing with Love. It was a different
sort of vanilla y perfume. Maybe it was like that
tom Ford vanilla per Maybe it was just maybe it
was just her sweat. It's like she wasn't even wearing,
probably just her well. In an interview with Variety, Hillary
said that she always knew she was going to return
to music. She said, I needed to feel safe, and
I needed to have the right people in my corner
and be absolutely one hundred percent ready. She went on
(12:51):
to say that the album feels like the inner workings
of her brain, and she's so excited to connect with
people again on that level. I can't get over how
good Hillary looks at the moment. She doesn't look like
she's aged a day since she last released music, Like
it's absolutely insane. Oh, she has always looked good. I'm
really interested to see how this album goes for Hillary.
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I actually think it's gonna be a big hit because
we have seen a lot of demand online for Hillary
to release something, and we're also seeing a lot of
other artists from the early twenty and twenty tens having revivals,
like I am seeing Jesse McCartney everywhere on TikTok. He's
currently touring in the US at the moment, and according
to Rolling Stone, Hillary Duff's Spotify searches have gone up
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by four hundred percent since she announced her music comeback.
I mean the docuseries following Hillary's personal life and return
to the studio is also going to help dramatically. So
the series is directed by Sam Brench, who worked on
Sabrina Carpenter's Christmas Special as well as Taylor Swift's Eras movie,
So she's in very good company. I cannot wait for
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this to be released because do you remember back in
the day, we had that DBD that went behind the
scenes of Hillary's tour and I remember this specific scene.
She was walking in the stiletto knee high boots and
she's got the shoe stuck in what is it like
a man whole kind of thing. Yeah, it was bloody hilarious.
It's actually sad how obsessed we used to be with
(14:14):
Hillary stuff. I wanted a toll but I don't think
she will come to Australia because she has got four children. Now,
don't put that negative energy out. She can bring the
kids with her. Yeah, one of them is in high
school interview back in the day that she did on
Rove and she was obsessed with Hallo Kitty and she
was talking about how she had a hallow Kitty sandwich
makeer no toaster and we went out and found the
exact same toaster. Sorry, I'm making it sing with absolute weirdos,
(14:37):
but well, I mean, if the shoe fits. Abby Chatfield's
boyfriend Adam Hyde, has revealed an audio snippet of he
and Abby having sex will feature in his new song More.
Speaking on the Stellar podcast, Adam, who's better known by
his stage name Kelly Holiday, so the idea came to
him whilst he was having sex. It's pretty funny because
Abby compared the experience of hearing the snippet to hearing
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your own voice on a mic crophone, but a million
times worse. Sin said her mum isn't allowed to listen
to the song. Just this whole thing makes it feel
really uncomfortable, like imagine being like, okay, yep, hit record.
I mean it just all seems very performative, Like it's
not like going to be a natural song, was it.
I think they were halfway through when he decided to
press record and apparently you can't actually hear that much
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because it's muffled by the bed sheets covering the microphone.
I mean, it doesn't personally make me go I really
want to listen to this song. I must say. I
do really like his current song that's up for an
ARIA Award Dancing. Well, that's about Abby. That's a beautiful song.
Everyone got behind that song. I wonder how this one
is going to fair because I mean, to be honest,
Abby isn't very popular at the moment on TikTok after
(15:40):
the defamation case, and then there was also that stolen
necklacing that she was dragged into completely unfairly. She had
nothing to do with it, but she seems to have
been copying so much trolling recently. Yeah, I feel for
Abby because it seems like everyone has just used the
past couple of weeks as an opportunity to pile on her.
Megan is reportedly set to make a return to acting
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eight years after quitting hit show Suits to join the
Royal Family. The Sun is reporting that Megan will appear
alongside Lily Collins, Bree Lassen, Henry Golding and Jack Quaid
in the upcoming movie Close Personal Friends. She will be
playing herself. Though. It's gonna be interesting to see how
Meghan fits into this movie because it is a rom
com about two couples. One of the couples is meant
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to be famous, so perhaps she's a friend. Yeah, maybe
they come out to her Montecito home and have a
dinner party or something. I think it's really interesting when
celebrities play themselves in a TV show or a movie
because it's quite reflective of how they see themselves or
if they take the piss out of themselves. Well, this
news actually comes off the back of Harry and Meghan
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being booed at the La Dodgers game. Did you see
Meghan's new Instagram story this week? It was of her
and Harry celebrating the Dodgers win in what appeared to
be their movie room. I saw that, but I didn't
know the context. I was like, Oh, has Netflix actually
done a backflip and they're going to Yeah, what are
they celebrating? Get her showed return or something. I've seen
quite a few impersonations of this moment on TikTok and
(17:09):
for those who haven't seen it, it's a shot of
Megan and a friend jumping out of their seats celebrating
and Harry appears quite subdued in the vision. I mean,
to me, it just looked like Harry was like every
other husband who didn't want to be filmed for Instagram.
He was kind of just happy chilling on the couch. Yeah,
but let's remember he's English. He probably doesn't give a
shit about the La Dodgers. Maybe if it was like
a soccer merche or something. Former Love Islander Chris Hughes
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has opened up about his mental health in a recent podcast.
The thirty two year old, who's better known as Jojo
Siewa's boyfriend, revealed former one direction At Liam Payne reached
out to him following a terrible period in his life.
So Chris told the podcast that he'd been involved in
a stoush with the paparazzi a few years ago and
received backlash online. Let's have a listen to what he said.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But obviously, you know, seeing everything what happened to him
was just obviously extremely ubsane for me, millions and millions
of people. But knowing he cared about, like my mental
health at the time was yeah, it was tough, and
that was tough. When I saw the news about him
because he reached He sent me a message and Pacey said,
look stay strong, like, don't worry about what you know,
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what people are saying to you, essentially along the lines of
like I know. He actually sent me in the morning
the morning after that incident and was just like, no,
you'll be anxious. It happens. It's normal, which is basically
normalized it to make me feel better, which I thought
was says a lot about the person's character.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yet Yeah. Now, Chris went on to explain that he'd
only ever met Liam once a few years earlier, and
this showed what an amazing person he was to reach
out to him. It seems like a lot of people
have recently been coming out interviews and sharing their experience
with Liam Pain and it just seems like he was
such a lovely guy that was really misunderstood. Just makes
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this whole situation even sadder. Los Curtis has revealed she's
considering having her breast implants removed. It's interesting because she
actually got them done in Thailand in twenty eleven, and
now she's received a quote from an Australian surgeon for
twenty one thousand dollars for the explant. Surgery. Now, she
told her followers she was tempted to go back to
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Thailand to get the ex plant surgery. However, she didn't
like the idea of staying in Thailand for ten days.
She said, last time, it felt like she was there
for months and months. I was pretty surprised that she
was even considering that, especially considering how much Sky Wheatley
has spoken about her botch surgery in Asia. The whole
thing just sounds so frustrating because obviously she didn't have
a great time after she got the breast implants. Now
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having to go back to remove them, it would just
be such an awful experience. It's something we're seeing a
lot of influencers go through, and I'm glad that they
do document it because it seems full circle. Like if
you shared when you got them, I think it's only
fair to share your experience getting them removed. Kate Jones,
better known as Dedicated Lifestyle, shocked her followers on Sunday
(19:57):
night by revealing she's pregnant with her first child. The
popular influencers shared a real showcasing special moments from the
first trimester, with the caption the biggest little secret We've
ever had to keep she really managed to pull the
wool over a follower's eyes because she's only just gotten
back from a trip to the US, which she fully
vlogged on YouTube and shared across her social media. A
(20:18):
lot of her followers were like, oh my god, how
did you not manage to raise suspicion, So, she said
she ended up wearing a lot of baggy clothes and
mostly posed for photos with her back to the camera
looking over her shoulder. She also said it makes a
big difference when you're in control of the angles when
you're vlogging, and it really shows you can't trust anything
on social media, like everyone is manipulating the angles. It's
like that trend on TikTok where the husband's put up.
(20:40):
This is what my wife looks like on Instagram. This
is what she looks like sitting on the couch. It's
like this is first looks like completely different. They've always
got an oootie or like a rug on. I am
someone even now that it's getting slightly warmer and out laid.
I mean, that's a bit of a joke. The weather's
been shit, but I always have to have a rug on.
I'm actually recording from my couch now with a rug on.
It's like my acute you like ninety of her. You
(21:01):
were saying the other day, how you suddenly feil old, Kate,
I think that's actually just confirmed it. Well, I'm mixing
it up by having a squish mallow behind me. I
feel like it keeps me. I think that's just sad.
Kate thought. I actually thought you were gonna say about
uddies that they're a birth control device. That's what some
of my friends have been selling, that they're like, no
one actually looks good in an audio. Anyway, back to
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Kate Jones's pregnancy announcement. So I really enjoyed the announcement.
I loved Kate's real especially the appearance of her two
sausage dogs. Oh my gosh, they were the hugest sausage
dogs I've ever seen. I'm wondering how they're gonna deal
with it because I feel like sausage dogs are a
little bit overprotective of their owners. Oh, I think that'll
be fine. I loved the video where she shared the
(21:43):
news to her friends and family because quite a few
influencers made the cut, so Britney Saunders, Matt Hay and
Georgie Stevenson were all in it, and it's quite funny
because Kate captured the video made the most amount of
fucks you'll ever hear in a video, and she was
not wrong. All of her friends are like, fuck off,
fucked just so good well as life milestones do. The
(22:04):
reel got a huge response from Kate's followers, so to
put it into perspective, she has one hundred and ninety
six thousand followers and this reel got over thirty two
thousand likes as well as notching up three hundred and
sixty thousand views. From a social media perspective, that is
really strong engagement. Now, the influencers were out in full
force congratulating Kate as she binds. Georgia Richards, m Davey,
(22:27):
Simote Anderson, Olivia White's so vidoph and Britney Saunders were
among the well wishers. Now. On Tuesday night, Kate actually
jumped on her Instagram story and apologized to her followers
for dropping such big news and then ghosting everyone, particularly
since it was such a hard launch and she hadn't
dropped any clues in the leader. She was also going
on about how weird it was that everyone knew now
(22:47):
because she'd been sitting on the news for so long.
The following day, she gave her followers what they were
calling out for and did an Instagram Q and A
where she answered everyone's questions. So what we found out
is the baby is due in April, and she was
feeling a lot better now that she's in the second trimester. Unfortunately,
between week six and thirteen, she was suffering from morning sickness.
(23:07):
She also touched on briefly that her and her husband
Nick had taken a little bit longer than they expected
to in their trying to conceive journey, but they were
so grateful that they naturally conceived, and she said that
she would be keeping that journey a private one. Let's
get into our Friday debrief and Amy, I'm still feeling
so nostalgic from yesterday because we filmed a very special
(23:29):
project with Wilson. They've recently opened a new store in
Burnside Village which is absolutely beautiful. I'm obsessed with everything
in it, and we ended up going down to the
old tennis courts at our high school to shoot the vision.
We picked the worst possible timing because it was just
as a school bell rang and all the students were
coming out us having PTSD from my high school experience. Yeah,
(23:51):
it would have been all right if we were just
going down for a legitimate hit of tennis. But we
had like my big cameras. We were filming something quite funny.
At one stage it was a little girl who was
watching because we were throwing tennis balls at Sophia's part
of the video. But this was such a dream collaboration.
Like we got an email this week being like, oh,
you know, would you like to work with Wilson, And
being a huge tennis lover, I was like, are you serious,
(24:14):
Like is this actually for real? Yeah, because when we
were eighteen at UNI, we used to go down to
the local tennis courts and have a hit every night
until it got dark, then we drive home. I remember
this phase of having like vanilla coc and baked beans
as well. Like it was just it's just that that
time is just so it was fresh in my mind.
It was so long ago. Open Well, you have to
say tuned for what we were filming down out of
(24:35):
the tennis cause I personally think it was pretty funny.
I think that is all we have time for today, though,
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