June 17, 2025 • 26 mins
Anne Hince shares her journey of developing the ability to release emotional tension stored in the body's tissues, leading to profound healing and personal transformation. Through her own experiences with childhood trauma and PTSD, she discovered techniques that allow us to access deeper levels of self-awareness and release physical manifestations of emotional pain.
• Emotions and memories are stored as physical tension in the body that can be released through awareness
• Simple practice: regularly checking in with how you're feeling creates opportunities for emotional release
• EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) tapping effectively releases trauma by working through memories repeatedly
• Using original language from the time of trauma (childhood words, native language) accesses deeper neural pathways
• Releasing tension stored in connective tissue (which pulls with 2,000 pounds of force per square inch) can transform physical health
• Manifestation success improves when releasing stored trauma, as tension disrupts our energetic signal
• Healing happens in layers - as major traumas are released, previously unnoticed issues surface
• Inner peace emerges naturally as emotional darkness is released and replaced with light
Anne is offering a free download of her "Five Steps to Profound Inner Peace" blueprint on her website, and is hosting a retreat in Northern California in July for women who have experienced loss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the next episode of Overcome
Yourself, the podcast.
As you know, my name is Nicoleand I'm so excited to be here
today with Anne and Anne, I lovewhat Anne does.
She's going to talk to us aboutreleasing emotions.
I'm not going to butcher it, soI'm going to let Anne take it
away.
I know she's got a retreatcoming up and you guys know I
(00:22):
love the idea of retreats.
Can't wait to host my own.
So please, Anne, take retreatcoming up, and you guys know I
love the idea of retreats.
Can't wait to host my own.
So please, anne, take it away.
Let us know about your retreats, let us know who you are and
who you help, and about yourretreats, because I'm so excited
to hear about this great.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thank you, nicole, thanks for having me.
I'm, my name is Anne Hintz andI'm just a normal person, but
I've developed some pretty whatI think are crazy inner powers
that I had no idea wereavailable to us before.
I just didn't know until Istarted doing my inner work and
I just took it further andfurther because it felt so good,
(00:55):
I was becoming morelighthearted and because I've
had PTSD, I was reallyreactionary and very afraid all
the time and I needed things tochange.
So I started changing and Ijust took it further than I knew
was possible to go.
So at this point I can put myawareness inside my tissues and
inside my bones and I can focuswith a laser-like focus and
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release tension inside of thetissues and bones.
And I have shifted my skullbones and I have grown three
quarters of an inch in myfifties through doing this
really intense inner work.
So my goal is to share thisinformation with everyone,
especially women, who are morewilling to do the work, because
we can heal at such a deep leveland I had no idea this was
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possible before.
So I want other people to knowit's possible.
So that's what I share and Ihave a retreat coming up at the
beginning of July for women todo this work, women who've
experienced a loss, because thatwill be the portal that we will
go through to start learningthe techniques and using them to
start opening up oursubconscious minds.
So that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
That is so, so, so powerful.
Um, and I don't know if you'veheard my story, but I was um, I
was like nine years old.
I had an accident on a boat andthen nothing happened with that
until I was 21, and the doctorwas like, hey, you're gonna be
in a wheelchair in five years ifyou don't like, change your
entire life right now.
And so that was like 10 yearsago, over 10 years ago, and I've
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been healing, I've been workingon improving, and so I'm very,
very interested to learn more,and I'm sure my audience would
love to hear more.
Tell us a little bit more abouthow you help women heal,
because that's like superpowerful more about how you help
women heal, because that's likesuper powerful, right.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, I realized I mean over.
It's been a long journey, right, and it started at the the very
simple level I mean it wassimple but it was profound um,
of working through traumas, buteven before that it was kind of
working with everyday life,right.
So I would go through my dayand I would ask myself how am I
feeling right now?
And I would answer myselfbecause it's that moment of
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going inside and working out howwe're feeling that allows the
energy to start releasing.
And even going back furtherthan that, one of the real
things that I realized was thatall our emotions and all our
memories are actually storedphysically in the body.
It's just energy or tensionthat is stored physically in our
body and we can let it go.
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So that way we don't have toget attached to it.
It's just energy, it's livinginside of us.
We just have to notice it andgive it some attention and when
it's had enough attention, itreleases.
So if you're going about yourday and you're finding yourself
frustrated or angry or sad,whatever it is, stop in that
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moment, go inside, ask yourselfhow you're feeling.
So let's do a quick experimentthat with this, okay.
So tell me how your right kneeis feeling right now.
Good, she's good.
Okay, yeah, cool.
So in that moment you wentinside and you felt your right
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knee.
Then you gave words to it.
Giving words to it is goingback into the thinking mind, but
when you sensed into it, youwere in your feeling mind.
That's the work, that's whatallows the energy to release, to
actually feel it.
So when I went about my day,asked me how I was feeling,
asked myself how I was feeling,went inside, noticed and gave it
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a word, you know I'm feelingfrustrated or whatever.
In that moment of going insideI'm starting that process of
healing.
So that's really simple.
So I would do that many times aday and as I time went by, I
became less reactionary, whichactually made my household more
peaceful.
So it was really nice.
But I wanted it to go faster.
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I could think, tell things werechanging and I wanted more when
I wanted faster.
So I wrote down every emotionalmemory from my childhood, every
trauma, every big trauma andlittle trauma, and every phrase
that my dad would say he had avery short tempered, he was not
not a pleasant man really.
Um, and I worked through those.
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Now I use a technique calledeft.
Have you ever heard of that?
it's also yes so I tapped, usingeft, on each of those.
I tapped on one each night forabout an hour to an hour and a
half each night, just talkingthrough the events if it was an
event, or replaying the thought,the words in my mind until
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there was no emotion left at all.
So it's doing the same thing,it's kind of feeling, it's like
noticing how you're feeling andjust the tapping does the
release for you.
So it's really powerful whenyou're starting out.
So that's how we work through atrauma we talk through it or
tap through it from beginning toend and then back again from
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beginning to end, over and over.
Because doing that and releasingthe emotions as they come up,
it releases, it kind of opens upthe subconscious mind and more
details of the story come tomind.
So we might have forgottenparts of the story, but they
will come back to mind as we letthose big emotions go.
So we work through it frombeginning to end, beginning to
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end, over and over, until youcan just tell the story like
you're reading from a book.
There's no more emotion orenergy left in that story and at
that point you know that it'shealed At least that aspect has.
It might come up again in aslightly different form and
slightly different emotion, butthen you have just have more
work to do, and you can do thatthen.
So that is how we work throughemotions and traumas from the
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past.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That is fantastic, that is phenomenal.
That is very, very powerful.
I've done it with someone else,right, and they helped guide me
through it, because I diddisassociate for a little bit
there and so I needed someone tocome back in.
So it is a very powerfulpractice.
(07:20):
I'm just reiterating for theaudience powerful practice.
I'm just reiterating for theaudience, so you might not want
to do this by yourself becauseyou don't want to re-traumatize
yourself, and so that's why it'svery important to have someone
there with you to guide youthrough this, so that you can go
through the whole thing right,because it is a process, but it
is so powerful, it works.
(07:41):
I know from first-handexperience that it works, and so
that's fantastic.
I do want to mention in my bookI don't think I've talked about
this before, but one of thechapters I talk about,
vocabulary, and so when we aregoing in and we're noticing, can
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you talk to me about howimportant it is to to vary up
the vocabulary and to really getdown to the root of what it is
that we're actually feeling,versus just saying it hurts?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
right because it hurts is a very high level
feeling right, but it's justlike an umbrella right there's a
lot more underneath.
There's many, many layersunderneath, but with but with my
work, I start with.
It hurts, that's all you'reaware of at that point.
That's what we would work withand we would tap on.
It hurts and that is a layer,and as that layer releases, some
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other thoughts might come tomind, some other words might
come to mind, and then we wouldwork on those.
And I love what you said aboutvocabulary, Because with EFT,
with tapping, with this work,it's really important to use
your own words.
Now someone can lead you through, but there's a lot of scripts
online.
If you look at EFT online,people will tell you what to say
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, but they're not using yourwords and you have to go down
your neural pathways, yourmemories, and come up with the
words.
So perhaps you now use adifferent language than you did
when you grew up, in which caseyou would want to tap using the
words that you learned as achild, because those are the
ones that are stored inside ofyou more deeply than the ones
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you use now.
So if you had a trauma thathappened when you were six and
that, and you spoke a differentlanguage, those are the words
you'd want to use because youhad thoughts at that time and
memories at the time, using thatlanguage, and that's what you
stored inside of you, so I lovethat I think that could be
literally a different language,or also metaphorically a
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different language, because youknow, immediately I thought oh
my god, my first language isSpanish.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I couldn't speak to my dad until I went to
kindergarten and I learnedEnglish, and so I maybe that's a
layer that I haven't evenuncovered because I haven't even
gone in Spanish.
So that's a big deal.
But also also just thedifference in vocabulary when we
are young.
Right, we're gonna, we're gonnause certain sentences a certain
way, we're gonna use words acertain way, and it's, it's,
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that's a big aha moment to goback to that and use, like,
those simple sentences, to usethose words that you associated
directly, not the summary thatyou know, know that you're used
to repeating now as an adult,where you have this whole story
be like no, let's go back to thebasics of how I talk then, like
saying you know, if you weretapping on, my mother said this
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or did that.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, you didn't call her my mother, right?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
yeah, or you called the mommy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, in my case I grew up in england, so it was
mom or mommy so yes, that's avery, very important part of it,
that that allows you to getdeeper.
Right, it allows you to getdeeper.
And and what I realized as Iuncovered the layers was that
self-awareness does come indifferent thresholds.
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So there's being aware of thewords, the memories, the
emotions.
The emotions is a good layer,because I wasn't aware of my
emotions when I started.
But then there's another layer,which is the physical
sensations underneath theemotions.
So when we're saying we'refrustrated, we're actually that
word frustration we can say iscoming from a set of physical
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sensations, like physicaltension we're holding in our
body somewhere that we callfrustration.
Most of us are not aware atthat level, but you can become
aware at that level.
It's a deeper level of selfawareness.
By doing this work I becameaware at that level and then I
went deeper still and becameaware inside the body itself.
So there really are really deepphysical roots to all of this
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work.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We're just not aware of most of it yes, yeah, and in
some of my manifestation groups,um, I've seen comments of
people who said that the yearwhere they decided to focus on
their body getting massages,going to the gym, like doing
things to to take away the pain,like to to be comfortable in
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their own bodies they're like Imanifested more than I've ever
done in any other period.
Because when we focus on ourbody, we are releasing all of
these things, and when you lookat quantum physics, that's all
we are is energy, right, and soit's.
It's just, it's justeye-opening, right, and just to
really go into ourselves.
Um, because a lot of timeswe're like we're gonna push
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through, like it hurts, but letme push through, let me just get
this done, let me do this, andthat's a sign where we need to
like take back and be like maybesomething's off here, right,
instead of pushing through we'resuppressing.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We're suppressing when we do that.
I mean, it doesn't make itdisappear, it just leaves it in
the body and it's stillaffecting us.
So if you have manifestationgroups, you know about the law
of attraction, right?
So I think of it slightlydifferently from most people,
because I have this awarenessinside the body.
I believe the biggest part ofthe signal we emit so it's not
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just thoughts, right, it's notjust I want more money or I want
a car, right, it's not justthat thought, it's, it's deep
inside of us and the biggestpart of the signal that we emit
is this tension stored inside ofus from our past, which is why
working on your body would be somuch more effective, but also
doing this inner work, becauseit's releasing tension deep
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inside the body.
So the best thing that youcould do for your manifestations
would be going back andreleasing the traumas from your
past, because that is actuallyphysical tension stored inside
that is disrupting your signal.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah .
That makes so much sense.
This is very powerful.
This is a very powerful episode.
Guys, I hope you're payingattention, so talk to me a
little bit about your journey tothis, like, like, tell me how
you stumbled upon this.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, I had had lots of traumas in my childhood, like
most of us had.
I was adopted.
I was born with my right footup against my right shin.
I had a house fire where theflames were coming in through
the ceiling.
I had went to a boys boardingschool where I was teased
mercilessly by the boys.
My parents were alcoholics andI found my mother dead on the
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bathroom floor when I was 19.
So that's kind of the summationof a few of them.
But I had no idea.
I was carrying all that, justlike you, with your story, from
your boat.
I had no idea it was affectingme or my life until I was in my
late 30s when two other women ofmy boys school told me I'd done
something wrong and they werethe self-confident, self-assured
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authority type women you know.
People in the school werescared of them, to be honest,
and I was the scared mother onthe inside.
And they told me I'd donesomething wrong and my mind just
went out of control.
It just spun over and over allthe different thoughts.
You know what I said, what theysaid, what I did, what I I
could have done differently,just all these different
permutations, and it was at theend of those three days because
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I couldn't stop my mind forthree days that I realized, okay
, um, this is not normal, and itfelt a little bit like how I
would react when my dad wouldtell me I'd done something wrong
.
So that was the little opening,oh, maybe something from my
childhood still affecting me.
Of course, at that time I had noidea how much.
I mean it was massive.
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What was hidden inside and whatis hidden inside our
subconscious minds.
We just were not shown it untilwe're ready to deal with it.
But it is huge.
The connective tissue, which Irealize is where all this
tension is stored that I'mreleasing inside.
It pulls with a force of 2 000pounds per square inch, which is
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massive.
But we don't feel it because itwould be too much.
If I had been aware of whatI've been aware of in this last
five years, you know, if I'dbeen aware of that in my
previous years, I couldn't havesurvived.
It's just so much pain andtension.
So to do this work, I mean it's.
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It sounds like it's reallyoverwhelming when I say that,
but it isn't, because you'reonly showing it a little bit at
a time and if you have the toolsto release it, which it was
actually a doctor, a holisticphysician, that showed me EFT
the first time, which was reallynice.
He worked through my mother'sdeath with me.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
If you have the tools , then you can do this work and
just take it a step at a timeyeah, and you know, like, with
physical pain, when you have abig pain, it's like your, like
that's all you can think about.
And that's happened to me withmy back.
And then when I'm finally ableto, you know, fix whatever that
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big pain was, and you think, allright, everything's going to be
okay now.
But what happens is the smallerpains that were kind of set
aside.
They're like, hey, you knowwhat I'm still hurting, but I
was just kind of like youweren't paying attention to me
and I think that that's kind ofemotional.
It works that way too.
We have this big thing and it'staking over all of our
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attention.
But there's all these othersmaller things that once we're
able to, you know, like my dad,like talking about you know,
like messed up things.
Our dad said to us like if I'dbe like my leg hurts, he's like
come here, let me break yourfinger, you won't, you won't be
worried about your leg anymore.
But that's like the idea, right, like obviously he never did
that, he would just scare uslike that.
But um, but you know, a biggerpain is going to take over, and
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then but that doesn't mean thatthe leg is.
I was like no, now I'm gonnahave two problems a broken
finger and a hurting leg.
Like, like what are you talkingabout, right?
Um, but as we fix those biggerpains and the smaller ones start
coming to our attention it'snot that they weren't there.
They were there and they weredragging you down.
You just hadn't noticed untilyou know the bigger one went
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away.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So, um, I have two examples of that, of one
emotional, traumatic and onephysical.
So, like you said, it was mymother's death was my big trauma
and I was holding those tearsback for 20 years before I
actually let them flow.
But those were holding smallertraumas and not necessarily that
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small either.
One trauma that I didn'tmention is when I was in the age
of seven through 11.
At some point there, when Ilived in Hong Kong, we were
driving through a really crowdedmarket and my dad was furious.
He was seething as spittle wascoming out of his mouth.
He was moving the steeringwheel back and forth and he ran
over a girl's ankle while shewas holding her mother's hand,
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but I had totally forgottenabout that.
It that memory did not come backuntil I had released the trauma
around my mother.
So it was just coming up toheal and all these things.
They are just coming up to heal, even if it's the physical
thing.
So, as I, I was born with myright foot up against my right
shin and the first six weeks oflife my foot was released and I
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was adopted and my parent, myadoptive parents, didn't know
that this had happened, so Ididn't know.
I didn't have any lingeringpain or anything.
Really.
There are a few instances, butnothing much.
Until I started this really deeprelease work.
Right, I'd released all mytraumas.
I was working at a deeper levelin my body.
I was able to put my awarenessinside my head, inside my left
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cheek, and the pain in there wasalmost unbearable.
I could only focus on it for asecond at a time because it was
so incredibly painful.
But that pain in my left cheekwas hooked through my connective
tissue all the way down to myright foot.
I had just not been aware ofthat pain.
It had been there my whole lifeand I hadn't been aware of it.
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But now, right, I'm healing itat a really, really deep level.
There's very little of thatpain left.
Just, I mean, I'm pulling apartthe, the knot of connective
tissue that was stored in there,and there's very little strands
of it left after working on it,just feeling it, putting my
awareness on it, allowing it tofeel the however it feels.
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I'm not trying to change it inany way, I'm just just focusing
on it, giving it attention likewe did with the knee, and it
releases.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, like, yeah, people don't realize.
You know, I work with amovement specialist and one of
the things she teaches is likethe cascades Right and, and it's
exactly what you're talkingabout you don't even realize how
connected everything is andlike your sciatic nerve comes
all the way up here.
Go like this, because it's it'sall the way up, so your pain
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and your foot can definitely beup here and you're like oh my
god, it's coming from my foot.
Yeah, like when, when my upperback hurts, I will put I have a
shiatsu massager and I'll makesure to put it on my lower back
because everything is connected.
So when my lower back hurts,these guys are like holding this
part up and then my shouldersare overcompensating for middle.
So I know if my shoulders hurt,it's actually coming from my
lower back.
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If my feet hurt, it's comingfrom my lower back.
If my knees hurt, it's from mylower back.
And so you learn to understandhow everything is connected.
That changes everything for you, because it's not just looking
oh, my shoulders hurt, my middleback hurts, my lower back hurts
.
Yeah, like everything hurts,hurts.
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But if we find the big dominothis is what I teach my clients,
like with creating content, butfind the big domino.
You knock that one down.
Everything else feels better.
And that's exactly what you'retalking about with finding these
emotional trauma centers, theseknots that we have, and just
letting them go, because they'reall related.
It's just, it's just crazybecause it sounds woo-woo, but
we know that there's sciencebehind this too.
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Right, and so, like it's it's,it's reality, like we, we really
gotta think about what we thinkabout.
Right, because most people inour society today they don't
think about what they thinkabout.
They let their thoughts justrun the show or they tell
themselves not to think it right.
I shouldn't be thinking that yes, yes, yes, and we just, you
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know, I decided one day I waslike I'm not going to let my
emotions run the show.
My emotions are one of my mostpowerful.
You know superpowers like youwere talking about, but they
don't run the show most powerful.
You know superpowers like youwere talking about, but they
don't run the show Like I get todirect them and I get to use
them for good and for doing goodthings for others, right, and
not just to be crying every dayand having panic attacks, like
that's not helpful to anyone Notme, not anyone around me, like
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no.
But I would say to that, though, that I.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The way I do it is I.
I notice the emotions and feelthem, rather than suppress them
or push them away or hide them,because it's hard to believe,
but they really stop coming uponce you do that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, it's, it's kind of fun to experience yeah, in
my, in my, I have a five minutetalk and and one of the things I
talked about is I was in apanic attack and I was like, do
you like this?
Like why, where is this comingfrom?
Like, do you like feeling this?
And I really had to confront itand and talk about it with
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myself and really come to theroot of it.
So you're absolutely right,absolutely right Now, before we
sign off, I want to know what,if any, what part does gratitude
play in all of this that we'retalking about?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's an interesting question.
I've done a lot of work ingratitude in the past.
Where I am now is I'm justnoticing.
I just notice what happens, andas we release our past I can
see it now, I can see inside.
So I know the tension from ourpast is the darkness.
It's dark inside, but when werelease that tension it gets
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filled with light.
So the light was either thereunderneath it before or letting
the darkness go.
It's allowed the light to flowback in.
And so as we do this work, weactually become more positive.
Those negative emotions, thosenegative thoughts disappear from
our mind, which is really fun,and we are naturally more
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positive, and gratitude is apart of that right.
We just it's easier to see thepositive in life and it's easier
to be, you know, to feel ingratitude for it.
So so that's, I would say,where it is.
I love that they work together.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yes, so let us know how can we stay in touch with
you?
And you mentioned a gift.
You had a gift for the audience.
You want to tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I do.
I have a freedf download on mywebsite that is the five steps
to profound inner peace.
It's a five-step blueprint, Ishould say, because I like the
word blue, I like the color blueand the word blue.
So, um, that's available forfree on my website and it talks
you through these, these stepsand and explains the different
thresholds.
So that's available there andyou can contact me there as well
(25:27):
.
I'm also very active onfacebook and I have a youtube
channel, so you can contact methrough any of those that's
amazing and all right.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
This is just absolutely fantastic.
I so appreciate you being herewith us today.
And before we sign off, though,final tip what's like the
biggest takeaway, what's thebiggest aha that your clients
get working with you?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I would say that there's more to life than we
realize when we start this work.
There's a depth to life that wehave not experienced before,
and people start to see thatwhen they start doing this work,
they come alive.
And if you know, if you'veexperienced a loss, if you're a
woman who's experienced a lossand want to try out this work,
then our retreats would be anexcellent place to to immerse
(26:13):
yourself in it and to come out adifferent person on the other
side I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You said it's in july and where is it going to be?
In northern california, love it.
That is fantastic.
All right, and um, your website, the website, all this in the
show notes, all the links thatshe mentioned, are going to be
down there so you can grab yourfreebie and you can check out
more information and sign up forthe retreat, and this has just
been absolutely fantastic.
(26:37):
Thank you so much for beinghere with us today and and we
will catch you next time on thenext episode of Overcome
Yourself podcast, bye.
Hello and welcome to the next episode of Overcome
Yourself, the podcast.
As you know, my name is Nicoleand I'm so excited to be here
today with Anne and Anne, I lovewhat Anne does.
She's going to talk to us aboutreleasing emotions.
I'm not going to butcher it, soI'm going to let Anne take it
away.
I know she's got a retreatcoming up and you guys know I
(00:22):
love the idea of retreats.
Can't wait to host my own.
So please, Anne, take retreatcoming up, and you guys know I
love the idea of retreats.
Can't wait to host my own.
So please, anne, take it away.
Let us know about your retreats, let us know who you are and
who you help, and about yourretreats, because I'm so excited
to hear about this great.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thank you, nicole, thanks for having me.
I'm, my name is Anne Hintz andI'm just a normal person, but
I've developed some pretty whatI think are crazy inner powers
that I had no idea wereavailable to us before.
I just didn't know until Istarted doing my inner work and
I just took it further andfurther because it felt so good,
(00:55):
I was becoming morelighthearted and because I've
had PTSD, I was reallyreactionary and very afraid all
the time and I needed things tochange.
So I started changing and Ijust took it further than I knew
was possible to go.
So at this point I can put myawareness inside my tissues and
inside my bones and I can focuswith a laser-like focus and
(01:20):
release tension inside of thetissues and bones.
And I have shifted my skullbones and I have grown three
quarters of an inch in myfifties through doing this
really intense inner work.
So my goal is to share thisinformation with everyone,
especially women, who are morewilling to do the work, because
we can heal at such a deep leveland I had no idea this was
(01:43):
possible before.
So I want other people to knowit's possible.
So that's what I share and Ihave a retreat coming up at the
beginning of July for women todo this work, women who've
experienced a loss, because thatwill be the portal that we will
go through to start learningthe techniques and using them to
start opening up oursubconscious minds.
So that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
That is so, so, so powerful.
Um, and I don't know if you'veheard my story, but I was um, I
was like nine years old.
I had an accident on a boat andthen nothing happened with that
until I was 21, and the doctorwas like, hey, you're gonna be
in a wheelchair in five years ifyou don't like, change your
entire life right now.
And so that was like 10 yearsago, over 10 years ago, and I've
(02:30):
been healing, I've been workingon improving, and so I'm very,
very interested to learn more,and I'm sure my audience would
love to hear more.
Tell us a little bit more abouthow you help women heal,
because that's like superpowerful more about how you help
women heal, because that's likesuper powerful, right.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, I realized I mean over.
It's been a long journey, right, and it started at the the very
simple level I mean it wassimple but it was profound um,
of working through traumas, buteven before that it was kind of
working with everyday life,right.
So I would go through my dayand I would ask myself how am I
feeling right now?
And I would answer myselfbecause it's that moment of
(03:14):
going inside and working out howwe're feeling that allows the
energy to start releasing.
And even going back furtherthan that, one of the real
things that I realized was thatall our emotions and all our
memories are actually storedphysically in the body.
It's just energy or tensionthat is stored physically in our
body and we can let it go.
(03:35):
So that way we don't have toget attached to it.
It's just energy, it's livinginside of us.
We just have to notice it andgive it some attention and when
it's had enough attention, itreleases.
So if you're going about yourday and you're finding yourself
frustrated or angry or sad,whatever it is, stop in that
(03:57):
moment, go inside, ask yourselfhow you're feeling.
So let's do a quick experimentthat with this, okay.
So tell me how your right kneeis feeling right now.
Good, she's good.
Okay, yeah, cool.
So in that moment you wentinside and you felt your right
(04:20):
knee.
Then you gave words to it.
Giving words to it is goingback into the thinking mind, but
when you sensed into it, youwere in your feeling mind.
That's the work, that's whatallows the energy to release, to
actually feel it.
So when I went about my day,asked me how I was feeling,
asked myself how I was feeling,went inside, noticed and gave it
(04:43):
a word, you know I'm feelingfrustrated or whatever.
In that moment of going insideI'm starting that process of
healing.
So that's really simple.
So I would do that many times aday and as I time went by, I
became less reactionary, whichactually made my household more
peaceful.
So it was really nice.
But I wanted it to go faster.
(05:05):
I could think, tell things werechanging and I wanted more when
I wanted faster.
So I wrote down every emotionalmemory from my childhood, every
trauma, every big trauma andlittle trauma, and every phrase
that my dad would say he had avery short tempered, he was not
not a pleasant man really.
Um, and I worked through those.
(05:26):
Now I use a technique calledeft.
Have you ever heard of that?
it's also yes so I tapped, usingeft, on each of those.
I tapped on one each night forabout an hour to an hour and a
half each night, just talkingthrough the events if it was an
event, or replaying the thought,the words in my mind until
(05:47):
there was no emotion left at all.
So it's doing the same thing,it's kind of feeling, it's like
noticing how you're feeling andjust the tapping does the
release for you.
So it's really powerful whenyou're starting out.
So that's how we work through atrauma we talk through it or
tap through it from beginning toend and then back again from
(06:11):
beginning to end, over and over.
Because doing that and releasingthe emotions as they come up,
it releases, it kind of opens upthe subconscious mind and more
details of the story come tomind.
So we might have forgottenparts of the story, but they
will come back to mind as we letthose big emotions go.
So we work through it frombeginning to end, beginning to
(06:33):
end, over and over, until youcan just tell the story like
you're reading from a book.
There's no more emotion orenergy left in that story and at
that point you know that it'shealed At least that aspect has.
It might come up again in aslightly different form and
slightly different emotion, butthen you have just have more
work to do, and you can do thatthen.
So that is how we work throughemotions and traumas from the
(06:58):
past.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That is fantastic, that is phenomenal.
That is very, very powerful.
I've done it with someone else,right, and they helped guide me
through it, because I diddisassociate for a little bit
there and so I needed someone tocome back in.
So it is a very powerfulpractice.
(07:20):
I'm just reiterating for theaudience powerful practice.
I'm just reiterating for theaudience, so you might not want
to do this by yourself becauseyou don't want to re-traumatize
yourself, and so that's why it'svery important to have someone
there with you to guide youthrough this, so that you can go
through the whole thing right,because it is a process, but it
is so powerful, it works.
(07:41):
I know from first-handexperience that it works, and so
that's fantastic.
I do want to mention in my bookI don't think I've talked about
this before, but one of thechapters I talk about,
vocabulary, and so when we aregoing in and we're noticing, can
(08:01):
you talk to me about howimportant it is to to vary up
the vocabulary and to really getdown to the root of what it is
that we're actually feeling,versus just saying it hurts?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
right because it hurts is a very high level
feeling right, but it's justlike an umbrella right there's a
lot more underneath.
There's many, many layersunderneath, but with but with my
work, I start with.
It hurts, that's all you'reaware of at that point.
That's what we would work withand we would tap on.
It hurts and that is a layer,and as that layer releases, some
(08:38):
other thoughts might come tomind, some other words might
come to mind, and then we wouldwork on those.
And I love what you said aboutvocabulary, Because with EFT,
with tapping, with this work,it's really important to use
your own words.
Now someone can lead you through, but there's a lot of scripts
online.
If you look at EFT online,people will tell you what to say
(09:02):
, but they're not using yourwords and you have to go down
your neural pathways, yourmemories, and come up with the
words.
So perhaps you now use adifferent language than you did
when you grew up, in which caseyou would want to tap using the
words that you learned as achild, because those are the
ones that are stored inside ofyou more deeply than the ones
(09:23):
you use now.
So if you had a trauma thathappened when you were six and
that, and you spoke a differentlanguage, those are the words
you'd want to use because youhad thoughts at that time and
memories at the time, using thatlanguage, and that's what you
stored inside of you, so I lovethat I think that could be
literally a different language,or also metaphorically a
(09:46):
different language, because youknow, immediately I thought oh
my god, my first language isSpanish.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I couldn't speak to my dad until I went to
kindergarten and I learnedEnglish, and so I maybe that's a
layer that I haven't evenuncovered because I haven't even
gone in Spanish.
So that's a big deal.
But also also just thedifference in vocabulary when we
are young.
Right, we're gonna, we're gonnause certain sentences a certain
way, we're gonna use words acertain way, and it's, it's,
(10:14):
that's a big aha moment to goback to that and use, like,
those simple sentences, to usethose words that you associated
directly, not the summary thatyou know, know that you're used
to repeating now as an adult,where you have this whole story
be like no, let's go back to thebasics of how I talk then, like
saying you know, if you weretapping on, my mother said this
(10:37):
or did that.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, you didn't call her my mother, right?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
yeah, or you called the mommy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, in my case I grew up in england, so it was
mom or mommy so yes, that's avery, very important part of it,
that that allows you to getdeeper.
Right, it allows you to getdeeper.
And and what I realized as Iuncovered the layers was that
self-awareness does come indifferent thresholds.
(11:06):
So there's being aware of thewords, the memories, the
emotions.
The emotions is a good layer,because I wasn't aware of my
emotions when I started.
But then there's another layer,which is the physical
sensations underneath theemotions.
So when we're saying we'refrustrated, we're actually that
word frustration we can say iscoming from a set of physical
(11:29):
sensations, like physicaltension we're holding in our
body somewhere that we callfrustration.
Most of us are not aware atthat level, but you can become
aware at that level.
It's a deeper level of selfawareness.
By doing this work I becameaware at that level and then I
went deeper still and becameaware inside the body itself.
So there really are really deepphysical roots to all of this
(11:53):
work.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We're just not aware of most of it yes, yeah, and in
some of my manifestation groups,um, I've seen comments of
people who said that the yearwhere they decided to focus on
their body getting massages,going to the gym, like doing
things to to take away the pain,like to to be comfortable in
(12:16):
their own bodies they're like Imanifested more than I've ever
done in any other period.
Because when we focus on ourbody, we are releasing all of
these things, and when you lookat quantum physics, that's all
we are is energy, right, and soit's.
It's just, it's justeye-opening, right, and just to
really go into ourselves.
Um, because a lot of timeswe're like we're gonna push
(12:39):
through, like it hurts, but letme push through, let me just get
this done, let me do this, andthat's a sign where we need to
like take back and be like maybesomething's off here, right,
instead of pushing through we'resuppressing.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We're suppressing when we do that.
I mean, it doesn't make itdisappear, it just leaves it in
the body and it's stillaffecting us.
So if you have manifestationgroups, you know about the law
of attraction, right?
So I think of it slightlydifferently from most people,
because I have this awarenessinside the body.
I believe the biggest part ofthe signal we emit so it's not
(13:15):
just thoughts, right, it's notjust I want more money or I want
a car, right, it's not justthat thought, it's, it's deep
inside of us and the biggestpart of the signal that we emit
is this tension stored inside ofus from our past, which is why
working on your body would be somuch more effective, but also
doing this inner work, becauseit's releasing tension deep
(13:36):
inside the body.
So the best thing that youcould do for your manifestations
would be going back andreleasing the traumas from your
past, because that is actuallyphysical tension stored inside
that is disrupting your signal.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah .
That makes so much sense.
This is very powerful.
This is a very powerful episode.
Guys, I hope you're payingattention, so talk to me a
little bit about your journey tothis, like, like, tell me how
you stumbled upon this.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, I had had lots of traumas in my childhood, like
most of us had.
I was adopted.
I was born with my right footup against my right shin.
I had a house fire where theflames were coming in through
the ceiling.
I had went to a boys boardingschool where I was teased
mercilessly by the boys.
My parents were alcoholics andI found my mother dead on the
(14:34):
bathroom floor when I was 19.
So that's kind of the summationof a few of them.
But I had no idea.
I was carrying all that, justlike you, with your story, from
your boat.
I had no idea it was affectingme or my life until I was in my
late 30s when two other women ofmy boys school told me I'd done
something wrong and they werethe self-confident, self-assured
(14:57):
authority type women you know.
People in the school werescared of them, to be honest,
and I was the scared mother onthe inside.
And they told me I'd donesomething wrong and my mind just
went out of control.
It just spun over and over allthe different thoughts.
You know what I said, what theysaid, what I did, what I I
could have done differently,just all these different
permutations, and it was at theend of those three days because
(15:19):
I couldn't stop my mind forthree days that I realized, okay
, um, this is not normal, and itfelt a little bit like how I
would react when my dad wouldtell me I'd done something wrong
.
So that was the little opening,oh, maybe something from my
childhood still affecting me.
Of course, at that time I had noidea how much.
I mean it was massive.
(15:40):
What was hidden inside and whatis hidden inside our
subconscious minds.
We just were not shown it untilwe're ready to deal with it.
But it is huge.
The connective tissue, which Irealize is where all this
tension is stored that I'mreleasing inside.
It pulls with a force of 2 000pounds per square inch, which is
(16:02):
massive.
But we don't feel it because itwould be too much.
If I had been aware of whatI've been aware of in this last
five years, you know, if I'dbeen aware of that in my
previous years, I couldn't havesurvived.
It's just so much pain andtension.
So to do this work, I mean it's.
(16:24):
It sounds like it's reallyoverwhelming when I say that,
but it isn't, because you'reonly showing it a little bit at
a time and if you have the toolsto release it, which it was
actually a doctor, a holisticphysician, that showed me EFT
the first time, which was reallynice.
He worked through my mother'sdeath with me.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
If you have the tools , then you can do this work and
just take it a step at a timeyeah, and you know, like, with
physical pain, when you have abig pain, it's like your, like
that's all you can think about.
And that's happened to me withmy back.
And then when I'm finally ableto, you know, fix whatever that
(17:05):
big pain was, and you think, allright, everything's going to be
okay now.
But what happens is the smallerpains that were kind of set
aside.
They're like, hey, you knowwhat I'm still hurting, but I
was just kind of like youweren't paying attention to me
and I think that that's kind ofemotional.
It works that way too.
We have this big thing and it'staking over all of our
(17:25):
attention.
But there's all these othersmaller things that once we're
able to, you know, like my dad,like talking about you know,
like messed up things.
Our dad said to us like if I'dbe like my leg hurts, he's like
come here, let me break yourfinger, you won't, you won't be
worried about your leg anymore.
But that's like the idea, right, like obviously he never did
that, he would just scare uslike that.
But um, but you know, a biggerpain is going to take over, and
(17:48):
then but that doesn't mean thatthe leg is.
I was like no, now I'm gonnahave two problems a broken
finger and a hurting leg.
Like, like what are you talkingabout, right?
Um, but as we fix those biggerpains and the smaller ones start
coming to our attention it'snot that they weren't there.
They were there and they weredragging you down.
You just hadn't noticed untilyou know the bigger one went
(18:10):
away.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So, um, I have two examples of that, of one
emotional, traumatic and onephysical.
So, like you said, it was mymother's death was my big trauma
and I was holding those tearsback for 20 years before I
actually let them flow.
But those were holding smallertraumas and not necessarily that
(18:33):
small either.
One trauma that I didn'tmention is when I was in the age
of seven through 11.
At some point there, when Ilived in Hong Kong, we were
driving through a really crowdedmarket and my dad was furious.
He was seething as spittle wascoming out of his mouth.
He was moving the steeringwheel back and forth and he ran
over a girl's ankle while shewas holding her mother's hand,
(18:57):
but I had totally forgottenabout that.
It that memory did not come backuntil I had released the trauma
around my mother.
So it was just coming up toheal and all these things.
They are just coming up to heal, even if it's the physical
thing.
So, as I, I was born with myright foot up against my right
shin and the first six weeks oflife my foot was released and I
(19:22):
was adopted and my parent, myadoptive parents, didn't know
that this had happened, so Ididn't know.
I didn't have any lingeringpain or anything.
Really.
There are a few instances, butnothing much.
Until I started this really deeprelease work.
Right, I'd released all mytraumas.
I was working at a deeper levelin my body.
I was able to put my awarenessinside my head, inside my left
(19:45):
cheek, and the pain in there wasalmost unbearable.
I could only focus on it for asecond at a time because it was
so incredibly painful.
But that pain in my left cheekwas hooked through my connective
tissue all the way down to myright foot.
I had just not been aware ofthat pain.
It had been there my whole lifeand I hadn't been aware of it.
(20:07):
But now, right, I'm healing itat a really, really deep level.
There's very little of thatpain left.
Just, I mean, I'm pulling apartthe, the knot of connective
tissue that was stored in there,and there's very little strands
of it left after working on it,just feeling it, putting my
awareness on it, allowing it tofeel the however it feels.
(20:30):
I'm not trying to change it inany way, I'm just just focusing
on it, giving it attention likewe did with the knee, and it
releases.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, like, yeah, people don't realize.
You know, I work with amovement specialist and one of
the things she teaches is likethe cascades Right and, and it's
exactly what you're talkingabout you don't even realize how
connected everything is andlike your sciatic nerve comes
all the way up here.
Go like this, because it's it'sall the way up, so your pain
(21:10):
and your foot can definitely beup here and you're like oh my
god, it's coming from my foot.
Yeah, like when, when my upperback hurts, I will put I have a
shiatsu massager and I'll makesure to put it on my lower back
because everything is connected.
So when my lower back hurts,these guys are like holding this
part up and then my shouldersare overcompensating for middle.
So I know if my shoulders hurt,it's actually coming from my
lower back.
(21:30):
If my feet hurt, it's comingfrom my lower back.
If my knees hurt, it's from mylower back.
And so you learn to understandhow everything is connected.
That changes everything for you, because it's not just looking
oh, my shoulders hurt, my middleback hurts, my lower back hurts
.
Yeah, like everything hurts,hurts.
(21:52):
But if we find the big dominothis is what I teach my clients,
like with creating content, butfind the big domino.
You knock that one down.
Everything else feels better.
And that's exactly what you'retalking about with finding these
emotional trauma centers, theseknots that we have, and just
letting them go, because they'reall related.
It's just, it's just crazybecause it sounds woo-woo, but
we know that there's sciencebehind this too.
(22:13):
Right, and so, like it's it's,it's reality, like we, we really
gotta think about what we thinkabout.
Right, because most people inour society today they don't
think about what they thinkabout.
They let their thoughts justrun the show or they tell
themselves not to think it right.
I shouldn't be thinking that yes, yes, yes, and we just, you
(22:36):
know, I decided one day I waslike I'm not going to let my
emotions run the show.
My emotions are one of my mostpowerful.
You know superpowers like youwere talking about, but they
don't run the show most powerful.
You know superpowers like youwere talking about, but they
don't run the show Like I get todirect them and I get to use
them for good and for doing goodthings for others, right, and
not just to be crying every dayand having panic attacks, like
that's not helpful to anyone Notme, not anyone around me, like
(22:59):
no.
But I would say to that, though, that I.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The way I do it is I.
I notice the emotions and feelthem, rather than suppress them
or push them away or hide them,because it's hard to believe,
but they really stop coming uponce you do that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, it's, it's kind of fun to experience yeah, in
my, in my, I have a five minutetalk and and one of the things I
talked about is I was in apanic attack and I was like, do
you like this?
Like why, where is this comingfrom?
Like, do you like feeling this?
And I really had to confront itand and talk about it with
(23:39):
myself and really come to theroot of it.
So you're absolutely right,absolutely right Now, before we
sign off, I want to know what,if any, what part does gratitude
play in all of this that we'retalking about?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's an interesting question.
I've done a lot of work ingratitude in the past.
Where I am now is I'm justnoticing.
I just notice what happens, andas we release our past I can
see it now, I can see inside.
So I know the tension from ourpast is the darkness.
It's dark inside, but when werelease that tension it gets
(24:16):
filled with light.
So the light was either thereunderneath it before or letting
the darkness go.
It's allowed the light to flowback in.
And so as we do this work, weactually become more positive.
Those negative emotions, thosenegative thoughts disappear from
our mind, which is really fun,and we are naturally more
(24:36):
positive, and gratitude is apart of that right.
We just it's easier to see thepositive in life and it's easier
to be, you know, to feel ingratitude for it.
So so that's, I would say,where it is.
I love that they work together.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yes, so let us know how can we stay in touch with
you?
And you mentioned a gift.
You had a gift for the audience.
You want to tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I do.
I have a freedf download on mywebsite that is the five steps
to profound inner peace.
It's a five-step blueprint, Ishould say, because I like the
word blue, I like the color blueand the word blue.
So, um, that's available forfree on my website and it talks
you through these, these stepsand and explains the different
thresholds.
So that's available there andyou can contact me there as well
(25:27):
.
I'm also very active onfacebook and I have a youtube
channel, so you can contact methrough any of those that's
amazing and all right.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
This is just absolutely fantastic.
I so appreciate you being herewith us today.
And before we sign off, though,final tip what's like the
biggest takeaway, what's thebiggest aha that your clients
get working with you?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I would say that there's more to life than we
realize when we start this work.
There's a depth to life that wehave not experienced before,
and people start to see thatwhen they start doing this work,
they come alive.
And if you know, if you'veexperienced a loss, if you're a
woman who's experienced a lossand want to try out this work,
then our retreats would be anexcellent place to to immerse
(26:13):
yourself in it and to come out adifferent person on the other
side I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You said it's in july and where is it going to be?
In northern california, love it.
That is fantastic.
All right, and um, your website, the website, all this in the
show notes, all the links thatshe mentioned, are going to be
down there so you can grab yourfreebie and you can check out
more information and sign up forthe retreat, and this has just
been absolutely fantastic.
(26:37):
Thank you so much for beinghere with us today and and we
will catch you next time on thenext episode of Overcome
Yourself podcast, bye.
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!