November 18, 2025 • 21 mins
Have you ever dreamed of exploring the world but found yourself held back by fears of traveling alone? Meet Kerry Damiano, Ms World Traveler, who has visited more than 130 countries and launched her travel business in her sixties, proving it's never too late to embark on new adventures.
In this energizing conversation, Kerry reveals how solo travel builds transferable confidence that extends into every aspect of life. "Once you do it by yourself, you realize I can do this, I can conquer," she explains, drawing fascinating parallels between the courage needed for international exploration and entrepreneurship. For those hesitant to take the leap, Kerry offers practical "baby steps" - starting with weekend getaways close to home or joining organized group travel where logistics are handled while still maintaining independence.
What makes Kerry's perspective so valuable is her authenticity. She openly shares her travel mishaps, like arriving in Ibiza during off-season when everything was closed, and transforms these experiences into learning opportunities for her audience. This mirrors the entrepreneurial journey where "failures" become stepping stones to greater wisdom. She also emphasizes the critical importance of rest, even amid exciting adventures, reminding us that both travel and business-building take physical and mental tolls that require intentional recovery.
Perhaps most inspiring is Kerry's rejection of age-based limitations. With her mantra "60 is the new 30," she's working harder than ever on her YouTube channel and loving every minute. Whether you're contemplating your first solo trip, building a business, or simply wondering if it's too late to pursue a passion, Kerry's story will inspire you to take that first brave step beyond your comfort zone. Check out her unique travel content on YouTube at Ms World Traveler, where she focuses on fashion, style, and design rather than typical tourist information.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello there and welcome back to the next episode
of Overcome Yourself, thepodcast.
As you know, my name is Nicoleand I'm very excited to be here
today with Keri, and Keri is afabulous oh my gosh.
She's got an amazing story.
She's a world traveler, she'sreinvented herself.
I'm going to let her take itaway, so I do not butcher her
(00:21):
story.
So go ahead, Keri, and pleaseintroduce yourself.
Tell us a little bit about whoyou are and who you help Welcome
.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nicole, thank you so much for having me on your show.
As you said, my name is CarrieDamiano.
I am Ms World Traveler,something that I really have
started late in life.
I started it in my sixties, butI didn't start travel in the
sixties, I started back.
You know, my first overseastrip was as a college graduation
(00:51):
present.
So I've been doing this for along time and that's how I got
to 130 plus countries, becauseit's been doing it for yeah,
many, many years, and a lot ofit by myself.
So I love to talk to womenabout their journey and
overcoming any fears that theymight have about traveling by
themselves, because I've beenthere, I've done it, I know how
(01:13):
freeing it is and I enjoyinspiring others.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So tell us about your journey and how you've arrived
at what you do now, because Iknow you're also involved in
pageants, yeah, so I'd love tohear a little bit about that
well, I started in pageantry in1981, so I've been doing it a
long time, and probably more sothe last 20 years I've been
reading, really involved, andit's one of those things that
(01:42):
once you try it you get addictedto the sisterhood and it's hard
to give it up.
So I stayed involved and I justlove working with young women
and helping them really findthemselves and sort of become
who they were always meant to be.
That gives me great joy.
So that's part of my journey,but my journey to get to Ms
(02:05):
World Traveler.
There is a bit of a pageantelement to that.
You can see I'm wearing abanner here.
It's an ode to my years decadesreally in the pageant industry.
But it's not a pageant.
It really is just a show wherewe try and inspire women to
travel and then to shop local.
(02:26):
So we feature women artists,designers, entrepreneurs and
really try to promote them,promote their business, and that
way they promote us, we promotethem, and isn't that what we're
all?
Isn't that what the sisterhoodis right?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, that is amazing and I love it.
So what is it that your sashsays?
It says miss world travelerlove it.
Oh my gosh, that is fantastic.
It's a marketing tool.
Yes, oh no, but I love it.
It makes so much sense.
Just like, I've got my overcomeyourself shirt right and you
definitely stand out, especially, I can imagine, at in-person
(03:03):
events, you walking around withyour sash and everybody's like
who is that and why is?
She wearing that.
I want to know who she is.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Always end up getting a couple of followers.
You know people that see us onthe street.
We're out filming and talkingto people and people's like you
know who are you and what isthis, and then it's just an
opportunity to tell them theword of mouth that is you know
it.
Just an opportunity to tellthem word of mouth that is you
know it's.
It's still a good way to spreadyour message.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I love that.
What a what a great lesson inbranding like in real life, like
like this is.
You know, like that's how itworks, right, all right, so can
you?
You mentioned that you traveledsolo.
You mentioned overcoming fears,so can we dive a little bit
into that and talk a little bitabout what that is and what that
(03:50):
means?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right.
Well, you know, nicole, what Ihear women say to me is when I
say I travel by myself, they sayaren't you afraid?
Or you know, so how can Iafford that to do it by myself?
Or won't you be lonely?
You know they have these fearsand I always say if you can
identify what your fear is, ifit's okay, I think I'll be
(04:15):
lonely.
So let's talk about ways tofind people, to find groups, you
know, to do things that willhelp you not feel like you're
alone but still give you thatindependence, because really,
once you do it by yourself, thenyou realize I can do this, I
can conquer, and it gives youconfidence not only in that, but
(04:37):
really it translates to otherareas of your life absolutely
like like building a businessright, like building a podcast
it's the same fears, isn't it?
I mean, those things run aroundin our heads.
You know what if I don't knowwhat I'm doing you?
Know what if I can't do it?
What if I run out of money?
You know, I mean all of thesethings, these questions that
(04:59):
stop us in our tracks.
It just happens that I talkabout travel as sort of a
vehicle to get over those fears.
But it's as you said, it'swithin business, it's leaving
your job to start your ownbusiness, all of those kinds of
things.
That it's the same fears.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love that, and traveling is is a way to conquer
some of those fears, justexactly like you said, and be
like oh, okay, so I can dothings that are a little bit
scary, and it wasn't so scary onthe other side, um, yes, that
makes so much sense.
So what tips do you have for usif we decide that we want to
travel, um, or even alone?
(05:38):
If we want to travel alone,what are some of the best tips
that you have for for us andovercoming those fears?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
sure I would say.
The first thing is to take ababy step, like go on a weekend
trip, maybe even not that farfrom home, just to see do I, you
know, can I entertain myself?
Do I like my own company?
Well enough, you know, do Ifind enough to do?
How do I like that, the processof it?
And then, once you do that,that, okay, that was great, I
(06:06):
can do it.
Now, well, a little further, goa little longer, you know so.
So start the baby step.
Another baby step is to gosomewhere and join a group.
So, okay, you've gone byyourself, but you have that
sense of I'm not there by myself, and and most groups have sort
of built in flexibility of time,meaning you can be with them as
(06:28):
much or as little as you want.
And then you have the abilityto gauge okay, I'm feeling good,
I'm going to go off and do thisexcursion by myself, but then
when I come back, I've also gotthe group.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Can you give us an example of traveling in a group
by yourself, of traveling in agroup by yourself?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, there are many different kinds of group travel.
There's adventure, like, forexample, there's horse riding
trips where, okay, you go byyourself, you have your own room
or your own tent or whatever,but you're with a group and
somebody has set up all of thedetails.
So if you're not a person wholikes to do all of the planning
(07:08):
yourself, those are very good,that somebody has done all of
the planning for you.
And that's baby step two,because it's overwhelming when
you think of all the planningthat goes into that kind of a
trip Like, for example, I justwent to a few months ago.
I went on vacation even though Iwas working, but it was
(07:28):
vacation to Cambodia, laos, um,vietnam, five countries.
The amount of work to line allof that up the guides, the
transfers, the hotels, you know,the tours, all of those things.
I mean it was like full-timework.
So it's a bit daunting and somaybe as a baby step, you try a
(07:52):
group, that it's all laid out.
You're on here this day you'regoing to do that, and on this
day you're going to do that, andI'm, you know, with some free
time built in so you can do someof your own thing.
But it takes sort of all ofthat extra stress of doing all
the planning thing.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But it takes sort of all of that extra stress of
doing all the planning.
I love that and I love how thatmirrors too, for us as business
owners, not going it alone.
We're on our own, we'rebuilding our own business, but
surrounding ourselves with otherpeople who are also looking for
the same kinds of adventures,and we can learn from each other
(08:29):
, yes, and we can share storiesand we can learn to appreciate
ourselves just a little bit more, because we get to learn new
things that we don't get tolearn when we're stuck in our
routines, right that's right,and you're already starting with
something in common.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
so, who knows?
You make lifelong friends fromdoing this, because you both
know that you're interested inthis common thing.
And then, well, let's do itagain, let's go on, you know,
take another trip and gosomeplace else and we'll meet
there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I love that.
I love that so much, and itmakes me think of, like retreats
.
I want to host retreats andthat's kind of what you're
talking about where I will planeverything out for you, so all
you got to do is show up andhave fun.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I love that.
And then I think it's just somuch less scary for people to
say I'm going by myself, but I'mnot going to be by myself.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I love that, and same with having like a mastermind
in your business Right andjoining a group of like minded
people who they're buildingtheir businesses and exactly
what we talked about, you know,with going on vacation.
You get to go on this adventuretogether.
You get to learn from eachother, support each other.
I love that so much.
Now talk to me about theopportunity that comes in
(09:47):
failure, because I'm sure thatin all of these things that
you've done, it hasn't all beensunshine and roses.
Like you mentioned, it can getcomplicated.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
There's no such thing right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
As a whole life lived with, no, you know, mistakes
made along the way.
So here's an example, because Ijust got back less than a week
ago from a month in Barcelonaand it was work.
I was there as a Miss Worldtraveler collecting content.
One of the places I went wasIbiza.
I'd always wanted to go toIbiza.
It's this beautiful resortisland in the Mediterranean and
(10:23):
okay, it's March timeframe inthe Mediterranean and okay, it's
March timeframe.
I get there.
Everything's closed.
Okay, I'm thinking, you know, Ithought it was a resort town
that there would be things goingon all year, but it wasn't the
season, things kind of closeddown for the winter and then
they get going more like afterEaster.
So that was a mistake.
Even though I do a ton ofresearch before I go.
(10:45):
It was.
It wasn't obvious that thereweren't going to be things open
while I was there.
So I write about that in myshow and I say learn from my
mistake and and and watch that,that particular things.
But that's just an example ofit wasn't really a failure per
se, but it was a learningopportunity that I made the
(11:07):
mistakes so that you don't haveto.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I love that and I love how you use that for
content.
So, even though it wasn't whatyou thought it was going to be,
you not only got to learn thatlesson, you got to share that
lesson with others and so thatthey can make sure that they
they go at the right time toparticipate in the things that
they want to.
I remember hearing about that.
(11:32):
We should always be doing.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I mean we.
As we go through these things,we learn, we pass it on.
Sometimes it's to thegeneration behind us, Sometimes
it's to our colleagues, butevery lesson is learned is an
opportunity to help somebodyelse yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I remember I was going to say hearing those
stories, you know, as a littlekid about how in Spain and
there's a lot of places inEurope where things kind of
there's like a siesta in themiddle of the day, there's just
a relaxing time, but thenthere's also a whole month, yes,
before Easter, whereeverything's just kind of
(12:11):
everybody's resting and I thinkthat's so important.
Tell me, what part does restplay?
Speaking of rest as a worldtraveler, can you talk to me
about a little bit, about restand the importance of it, even
when you're traveling to funplaces?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, I'm glad you brought this up, nicole, because
, as I said, I just got backless than a week ago and of
course you have some jet lagafterwards and on Saturday, so
just a couple of days ago, I hitthe wall.
I couldn't even move, Icouldn't think straight and I
realized I hadn't had a day offsince Christmas.
And so what you're talkingabout rest, it just sort of shit
(12:50):
me like a board in the facethat I had not rested enough,
and so sometimes you're forcedinto it.
Sometimes you get sick, you know, and then you, you're forced
rest.
But really we have to be morecognizant of that too.
Work is fun.
It is for me because I do whatI love and so I energize, and I
(13:10):
love to work and to do this.
But there's also time when youhave to go.
Okay, let's just sit still fora moment, it's okay.
You don't have to be doingsomething every single second.
It's okay to rest.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And you are doing something when you're resting.
That's right, Exactly Right.
Your body needs time to do allthe things it needs to do, so it
technically, it does definitelycount.
I'm guilty of that too right,Of just like going a minute, and
if you're not, then you knowthat inner voice is like oh, you
(13:46):
haven't gotten anything done.
And it's like I've been, youknow, I've been typing for 10
hours.
What do you mean?
I haven't gotten anything done.
I wrote a whole book, yes, so Ithink that is so important the
importance of rest even whileyou're having fun.
Right, Because traveling is fun, but it is also exhausting,
just like entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's right.
They're both physicallydemanding, aren't they?
And I think sometimes we forgetthat.
Right Again, if you're doingsomething that you love and that
energizes you, you don'trealize the toll that it takes
physically, mentally,emotionally, spiritually, really
, you know in all ways.
So, yes, rest, but alsorecognize that you don't have to
(14:29):
be getting something done everysingle second.
It's okay, it will be theretomorrow.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I love that so much and I want to ask you about your
, your business as a YouTuber.
You get to travel, you get todo this stuff.
What tips do you have foraspiring women who are like, oh
my gosh, you can do that.
You can make money travelingand making video and recording
content.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, I haven't done it to make money, so I'm not
really the person to give advicefrom that.
But there are a number ofpeople who that is how they make
their living, and I think it'svery exciting that there is a
technology available that allowsus, especially as women, to be
independent, to be financiallyindependent, to do what we love
(15:20):
and make our own way.
You know, doing what you love.
So I think it's an excitingtime that there's just so much
more opportunity to do what youlove.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I love that and that's even more important, that
you're doing it literallybecause you love it and it's not
because anyone's sponsoringsomething, and so your reviews
are going to be very authenticand you're, you're just, you're
just there for the truth.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Exactly.
Well, part of what we do isreally trying to promote other
businesses, and the idea is, Ipromote them, they promote me.
We all do this free for eachother, so nobody has to pay for
it, but it's helping each otherand then everybody grows.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that's, I think, kind of just a nice bonus, a
side thing that we can do foreach other, and the technology
is there to do that and it's sotrue because that's what's
happening right now with you andme, where we connected and
we're going to promote eachother to each other's audiences
and be like look how awesomecarrie is, look how awesome
(16:26):
nicole is thank you, thank you,um, and and you're so right that
I mean, when I was growing up,you couldn't do this like you
and I wouldn't have been sittinghere looking at each other.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Exactly Having a conversation.
This is newer technology isn'tit?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, it is.
Yeah, I wrote that in my book.
Like when I was growing up, Iremember the computers coming
into our houses.
I remember my grandfather likebuying a computer and he had to
get a desk because he had tohave somewhere to put the
computer.
And you know, it's like the bigmonitors.
But I remember when there wasno computers and now the
computer is like in our pocketor right in front of me.
(17:03):
So it is amazing, um, and it'sjust fantastic.
So talk to me about yourYouTube channel, because I know
that, um, you told me that iswhere, that's where, that's
where your show is like, that'swhere you want people to find
you.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So tell us a little bit about that and that journey
yes, well, uh, we do a segmentevery week, we release and, um,
sometimes they're like in aseries we just finished.
Uh, actually we have one more,but my vacation series that's
coming.
Uh, we're going to finish thatup.
We had a most memorable seriesbefore that.
(17:41):
We'll have a Barcelona series.
So we kind of do you know, kindof film and then release over
time, which is sort of what youdo with podcasts too, right, but
yeah, it's anywhere from fiveto 15 minutes, so it's very
digestible.
You know, it doesn't take a lotof time for people to listen to
(18:03):
it.
And one of the things that Ireally focus on is because
there's so many people who areinterested in and they have
questions about, travel is I tryand do something a little bit
different, meaning we don't talkabout where to eat, where to
stay, activities, things likethat, where to stay, activities,
things like that.
We focus a little bit more onfashion, style, design, antiques
(18:32):
, you know, just sort offeminine interest.
It doesn't have to be feminine,but just a little bit different
way of seeing the travel sideof things.
And part of that is becausethere's so many out there, right
, and if you've ever looked,what are some travel logs I
could look at.
There are thousands.
Where do you begin?
So I wanted to one be differentand to be something I'm
(18:52):
interested in and I figure ifI'm interested in it, other
women are going to be interestedin it too.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, you can't be the only one right.
It's like specificallyimpossible.
Yes, yes, I love that very much.
And what?
What is the channel?
Can you let us know where wecan find it?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Sure, Sure it's.
It's on YouTube at Ms MS worldtraveler, ms World traveler.
And you can find us onInstagram as well, and that's
Keri Ms World Traveler.
And that's K-E-R-R-Y Ms WorldTraveler.
Keri, ms World Traveler.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh, I love that so much.
Thanks for sharing.
So, as we're wrapping up here,oh, thank you.
As we're wrapping up, I wouldlove to know what is that big
tip that you have, like, what'sthe tip that gives your clients
that big aha moment?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, have, like, what's the tip that gives your
clients that big aha moment?
Well, I don't know if it's anaha moment, but I always like to
say that it's never too late tostart something new.
I didn't start this businesstill in my sixties, even though
I've had my own business forover 20 years.
But this particular part of thebusiness and I'm working harder
than I've worked in my wholelife and I absolutely love it.
So it's not too late to dosomething that you love, to do,
(20:05):
something that you're passionateabout.
It sort of re-energizes, yougives you your youth back, if
there's such a thing, right.
But it's just, it's never toolate to start something new.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I love that.
And you said one of the thingsI remember from from you know
the questionnaire was you said60 is the new 30, right, tell me
about that.
We like to think so right, yes,so tell me a little bit about
that.
What does that mean and what dowe have to look forward to?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That means that don't put limitations on yourself
because of your age, you know.
Do what you want to do, be, bewho you are, be who you're still
becoming, because we're stillgrowing, we're still changing,
we're still striving, we'restill uh, you know wanting to do
more.
We all have bucket lists andyou know, just go out and do it
Um and again.
I just will revert to it'snever too late to try something
(20:59):
new, so don't let the number,you know, be something that
holds you back.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love that you're alive.
Make the most of it.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's all means you're breathing right.
There's something to be done.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yes, absolutely.
This has been fantastic, Carrie.
Thank you so much.
Do you have any final wordsbefore we sign off here?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh, just thank you, nicole.
It was such a pleasure gettingto know you a little bit and
having a nice conversation withyou, so I really appreciate that
and I'm grateful.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh, I'm grateful for you too.
Thank you so much.
This has been wonderful and wewill catch you guys next time on
the next episode of OvercomingYourself, the podcast.
Bye.
Hello there and welcome back to the next episode
of Overcome Yourself, thepodcast.
As you know, my name is Nicoleand I'm very excited to be here
today with Keri, and Keri is afabulous oh my gosh.
She's got an amazing story.
She's a world traveler, she'sreinvented herself.
I'm going to let her take itaway, so I do not butcher her
(00:21):
story.
So go ahead, Keri, and pleaseintroduce yourself.
Tell us a little bit about whoyou are and who you help Welcome
.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nicole, thank you so much for having me on your show.
As you said, my name is CarrieDamiano.
I am Ms World Traveler,something that I really have
started late in life.
I started it in my sixties, butI didn't start travel in the
sixties, I started back.
You know, my first overseastrip was as a college graduation
(00:51):
present.
So I've been doing this for along time and that's how I got
to 130 plus countries, becauseit's been doing it for yeah,
many, many years, and a lot ofit by myself.
So I love to talk to womenabout their journey and
overcoming any fears that theymight have about traveling by
themselves, because I've beenthere, I've done it, I know how
(01:13):
freeing it is and I enjoyinspiring others.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So tell us about your journey and how you've arrived
at what you do now, because Iknow you're also involved in
pageants, yeah, so I'd love tohear a little bit about that
well, I started in pageantry in1981, so I've been doing it a
long time, and probably more sothe last 20 years I've been
reading, really involved, andit's one of those things that
(01:42):
once you try it you get addictedto the sisterhood and it's hard
to give it up.
So I stayed involved and I justlove working with young women
and helping them really findthemselves and sort of become
who they were always meant to be.
That gives me great joy.
So that's part of my journey,but my journey to get to Ms
(02:05):
World Traveler.
There is a bit of a pageantelement to that.
You can see I'm wearing abanner here.
It's an ode to my years decadesreally in the pageant industry.
But it's not a pageant.
It really is just a show wherewe try and inspire women to
travel and then to shop local.
(02:26):
So we feature women artists,designers, entrepreneurs and
really try to promote them,promote their business, and that
way they promote us, we promotethem, and isn't that what we're
all?
Isn't that what the sisterhoodis right?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, that is amazing and I love it.
So what is it that your sashsays?
It says miss world travelerlove it.
Oh my gosh, that is fantastic.
It's a marketing tool.
Yes, oh no, but I love it.
It makes so much sense.
Just like, I've got my overcomeyourself shirt right and you
definitely stand out, especially, I can imagine, at in-person
(03:03):
events, you walking around withyour sash and everybody's like
who is that and why is?
She wearing that.
I want to know who she is.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Always end up getting a couple of followers.
You know people that see us onthe street.
We're out filming and talkingto people and people's like you
know who are you and what isthis, and then it's just an
opportunity to tell them theword of mouth that is you know
it.
Just an opportunity to tellthem word of mouth that is you
know it's.
It's still a good way to spreadyour message.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I love that.
What a what a great lesson inbranding like in real life, like
like this is.
You know, like that's how itworks, right, all right, so can
you?
You mentioned that you traveledsolo.
You mentioned overcoming fears,so can we dive a little bit
into that and talk a little bitabout what that is and what that
(03:50):
means?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right.
Well, you know, nicole, what Ihear women say to me is when I
say I travel by myself, they sayaren't you afraid?
Or you know, so how can Iafford that to do it by myself?
Or won't you be lonely?
You know they have these fearsand I always say if you can
identify what your fear is, ifit's okay, I think I'll be
(04:15):
lonely.
So let's talk about ways tofind people, to find groups, you
know, to do things that willhelp you not feel like you're
alone but still give you thatindependence, because really,
once you do it by yourself, thenyou realize I can do this, I
can conquer, and it gives youconfidence not only in that, but
(04:37):
really it translates to otherareas of your life absolutely
like like building a businessright, like building a podcast
it's the same fears, isn't it?
I mean, those things run aroundin our heads.
You know what if I don't knowwhat I'm doing you?
Know what if I can't do it?
What if I run out of money?
You know, I mean all of thesethings, these questions that
(04:59):
stop us in our tracks.
It just happens that I talkabout travel as sort of a
vehicle to get over those fears.
But it's as you said, it'swithin business, it's leaving
your job to start your ownbusiness, all of those kinds of
things.
That it's the same fears.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love that, and traveling is is a way to conquer
some of those fears, justexactly like you said, and be
like oh, okay, so I can dothings that are a little bit
scary, and it wasn't so scary onthe other side, um, yes, that
makes so much sense.
So what tips do you have for usif we decide that we want to
travel, um, or even alone?
(05:38):
If we want to travel alone,what are some of the best tips
that you have for for us andovercoming those fears?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
sure I would say.
The first thing is to take ababy step, like go on a weekend
trip, maybe even not that farfrom home, just to see do I, you
know, can I entertain myself?
Do I like my own company?
Well enough, you know, do Ifind enough to do?
How do I like that, the processof it?
And then, once you do that,that, okay, that was great, I
(06:06):
can do it.
Now, well, a little further, goa little longer, you know so.
So start the baby step.
Another baby step is to gosomewhere and join a group.
So, okay, you've gone byyourself, but you have that
sense of I'm not there by myself, and and most groups have sort
of built in flexibility of time,meaning you can be with them as
(06:28):
much or as little as you want.
And then you have the abilityto gauge okay, I'm feeling good,
I'm going to go off and do thisexcursion by myself, but then
when I come back, I've also gotthe group.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Can you give us an example of traveling in a group
by yourself, of traveling in agroup by yourself?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, there are many different kinds of group travel.
There's adventure, like, forexample, there's horse riding
trips where, okay, you go byyourself, you have your own room
or your own tent or whatever,but you're with a group and
somebody has set up all of thedetails.
So if you're not a person wholikes to do all of the planning
(07:08):
yourself, those are very good,that somebody has done all of
the planning for you.
And that's baby step two,because it's overwhelming when
you think of all the planningthat goes into that kind of a
trip Like, for example, I justwent to a few months ago.
I went on vacation even though Iwas working, but it was
(07:28):
vacation to Cambodia, laos, um,vietnam, five countries.
The amount of work to line allof that up the guides, the
transfers, the hotels, you know,the tours, all of those things.
I mean it was like full-timework.
So it's a bit daunting and somaybe as a baby step, you try a
(07:52):
group, that it's all laid out.
You're on here this day you'regoing to do that, and on this
day you're going to do that, andI'm, you know, with some free
time built in so you can do someof your own thing.
But it takes sort of all ofthat extra stress of doing all
the planning thing.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But it takes sort of all of that extra stress of
doing all the planning.
I love that and I love how thatmirrors too, for us as business
owners, not going it alone.
We're on our own, we'rebuilding our own business, but
surrounding ourselves with otherpeople who are also looking for
the same kinds of adventures,and we can learn from each other
(08:29):
, yes, and we can share storiesand we can learn to appreciate
ourselves just a little bit more, because we get to learn new
things that we don't get tolearn when we're stuck in our
routines, right that's right,and you're already starting with
something in common.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
so, who knows?
You make lifelong friends fromdoing this, because you both
know that you're interested inthis common thing.
And then, well, let's do itagain, let's go on, you know,
take another trip and gosomeplace else and we'll meet
there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I love that.
I love that so much, and itmakes me think of, like retreats
.
I want to host retreats andthat's kind of what you're
talking about where I will planeverything out for you, so all
you got to do is show up andhave fun.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I love that.
And then I think it's just somuch less scary for people to
say I'm going by myself, but I'mnot going to be by myself.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I love that, and same with having like a mastermind
in your business Right andjoining a group of like minded
people who they're buildingtheir businesses and exactly
what we talked about, you know,with going on vacation.
You get to go on this adventuretogether.
You get to learn from eachother, support each other.
I love that so much.
Now talk to me about theopportunity that comes in
(09:47):
failure, because I'm sure thatin all of these things that
you've done, it hasn't all beensunshine and roses.
Like you mentioned, it can getcomplicated.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
There's no such thing right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
As a whole life lived with, no, you know, mistakes
made along the way.
So here's an example, because Ijust got back less than a week
ago from a month in Barcelonaand it was work.
I was there as a Miss Worldtraveler collecting content.
One of the places I went wasIbiza.
I'd always wanted to go toIbiza.
It's this beautiful resortisland in the Mediterranean and
(10:23):
okay, it's March timeframe inthe Mediterranean and okay, it's
March timeframe.
I get there.
Everything's closed.
Okay, I'm thinking, you know, Ithought it was a resort town
that there would be things goingon all year, but it wasn't the
season, things kind of closeddown for the winter and then
they get going more like afterEaster.
So that was a mistake.
Even though I do a ton ofresearch before I go.
(10:45):
It was.
It wasn't obvious that thereweren't going to be things open
while I was there.
So I write about that in myshow and I say learn from my
mistake and and and watch that,that particular things.
But that's just an example ofit wasn't really a failure per
se, but it was a learningopportunity that I made the
(11:07):
mistakes so that you don't haveto.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I love that and I love how you use that for
content.
So, even though it wasn't whatyou thought it was going to be,
you not only got to learn thatlesson, you got to share that
lesson with others and so thatthey can make sure that they
they go at the right time toparticipate in the things that
they want to.
I remember hearing about that.
(11:32):
We should always be doing.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I mean we.
As we go through these things,we learn, we pass it on.
Sometimes it's to thegeneration behind us, Sometimes
it's to our colleagues, butevery lesson is learned is an
opportunity to help somebodyelse yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I remember I was going to say hearing those
stories, you know, as a littlekid about how in Spain and
there's a lot of places inEurope where things kind of
there's like a siesta in themiddle of the day, there's just
a relaxing time, but thenthere's also a whole month, yes,
before Easter, whereeverything's just kind of
(12:11):
everybody's resting and I thinkthat's so important.
Tell me, what part does restplay?
Speaking of rest as a worldtraveler, can you talk to me
about a little bit, about restand the importance of it, even
when you're traveling to funplaces?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, I'm glad you brought this up, nicole, because
, as I said, I just got backless than a week ago and of
course you have some jet lagafterwards and on Saturday, so
just a couple of days ago, I hitthe wall.
I couldn't even move, Icouldn't think straight and I
realized I hadn't had a day offsince Christmas.
And so what you're talkingabout rest, it just sort of shit
(12:50):
me like a board in the facethat I had not rested enough,
and so sometimes you're forcedinto it.
Sometimes you get sick, you know, and then you, you're forced
rest.
But really we have to be morecognizant of that too.
Work is fun.
It is for me because I do whatI love and so I energize, and I
(13:10):
love to work and to do this.
But there's also time when youhave to go.
Okay, let's just sit still fora moment, it's okay.
You don't have to be doingsomething every single second.
It's okay to rest.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And you are doing something when you're resting.
That's right, Exactly Right.
Your body needs time to do allthe things it needs to do, so it
technically, it does definitelycount.
I'm guilty of that too right,Of just like going a minute, and
if you're not, then you knowthat inner voice is like oh, you
(13:46):
haven't gotten anything done.
And it's like I've been, youknow, I've been typing for 10
hours.
What do you mean?
I haven't gotten anything done.
I wrote a whole book, yes, so Ithink that is so important the
importance of rest even whileyou're having fun.
Right, Because traveling is fun, but it is also exhausting,
just like entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's right.
They're both physicallydemanding, aren't they?
And I think sometimes we forgetthat.
Right Again, if you're doingsomething that you love and that
energizes you, you don'trealize the toll that it takes
physically, mentally,emotionally, spiritually, really
, you know in all ways.
So, yes, rest, but alsorecognize that you don't have to
(14:29):
be getting something done everysingle second.
It's okay, it will be theretomorrow.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I love that so much and I want to ask you about your
, your business as a YouTuber.
You get to travel, you get todo this stuff.
What tips do you have foraspiring women who are like, oh
my gosh, you can do that.
You can make money travelingand making video and recording
content.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, I haven't done it to make money, so I'm not
really the person to give advicefrom that.
But there are a number ofpeople who that is how they make
their living, and I think it'svery exciting that there is a
technology available that allowsus, especially as women, to be
independent, to be financiallyindependent, to do what we love
(15:20):
and make our own way.
You know, doing what you love.
So I think it's an excitingtime that there's just so much
more opportunity to do what youlove.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I love that and that's even more important, that
you're doing it literallybecause you love it and it's not
because anyone's sponsoringsomething, and so your reviews
are going to be very authenticand you're, you're just, you're
just there for the truth.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Exactly.
Well, part of what we do isreally trying to promote other
businesses, and the idea is, Ipromote them, they promote me.
We all do this free for eachother, so nobody has to pay for
it, but it's helping each otherand then everybody grows.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that's, I think, kind of just a nice bonus, a
side thing that we can do foreach other, and the technology
is there to do that and it's sotrue because that's what's
happening right now with you andme, where we connected and
we're going to promote eachother to each other's audiences
and be like look how awesomecarrie is, look how awesome
(16:26):
nicole is thank you, thank you,um, and and you're so right that
I mean, when I was growing up,you couldn't do this like you
and I wouldn't have been sittinghere looking at each other.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Exactly Having a conversation.
This is newer technology isn'tit?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, it is.
Yeah, I wrote that in my book.
Like when I was growing up, Iremember the computers coming
into our houses.
I remember my grandfather likebuying a computer and he had to
get a desk because he had tohave somewhere to put the
computer.
And you know, it's like the bigmonitors.
But I remember when there wasno computers and now the
computer is like in our pocketor right in front of me.
(17:03):
So it is amazing, um, and it'sjust fantastic.
So talk to me about yourYouTube channel, because I know
that, um, you told me that iswhere, that's where, that's
where your show is like, that'swhere you want people to find
you.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So tell us a little bit about that and that journey
yes, well, uh, we do a segmentevery week, we release and, um,
sometimes they're like in aseries we just finished.
Uh, actually we have one more,but my vacation series that's
coming.
Uh, we're going to finish thatup.
We had a most memorable seriesbefore that.
(17:41):
We'll have a Barcelona series.
So we kind of do you know, kindof film and then release over
time, which is sort of what youdo with podcasts too, right, but
yeah, it's anywhere from fiveto 15 minutes, so it's very
digestible.
You know, it doesn't take a lotof time for people to listen to
(18:03):
it.
And one of the things that Ireally focus on is because
there's so many people who areinterested in and they have
questions about, travel is I tryand do something a little bit
different, meaning we don't talkabout where to eat, where to
stay, activities, things likethat, where to stay, activities,
things like that.
We focus a little bit more onfashion, style, design, antiques
(18:32):
, you know, just sort offeminine interest.
It doesn't have to be feminine,but just a little bit different
way of seeing the travel sideof things.
And part of that is becausethere's so many out there, right
, and if you've ever looked,what are some travel logs I
could look at.
There are thousands.
Where do you begin?
So I wanted to one be differentand to be something I'm
(18:52):
interested in and I figure ifI'm interested in it, other
women are going to be interestedin it too.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, you can't be the only one right.
It's like specificallyimpossible.
Yes, yes, I love that very much.
And what?
What is the channel?
Can you let us know where wecan find it?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Sure, Sure it's.
It's on YouTube at Ms MS worldtraveler, ms World traveler.
And you can find us onInstagram as well, and that's
Keri Ms World Traveler.
And that's K-E-R-R-Y Ms WorldTraveler.
Keri, ms World Traveler.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh, I love that so much.
Thanks for sharing.
So, as we're wrapping up here,oh, thank you.
As we're wrapping up, I wouldlove to know what is that big
tip that you have, like, what'sthe tip that gives your clients
that big aha moment?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, have, like, what's the tip that gives your
clients that big aha moment?
Well, I don't know if it's anaha moment, but I always like to
say that it's never too late tostart something new.
I didn't start this businesstill in my sixties, even though
I've had my own business forover 20 years.
But this particular part of thebusiness and I'm working harder
than I've worked in my wholelife and I absolutely love it.
So it's not too late to dosomething that you love, to do,
(20:05):
something that you're passionateabout.
It sort of re-energizes, yougives you your youth back, if
there's such a thing, right.
But it's just, it's never toolate to start something new.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I love that.
And you said one of the thingsI remember from from you know
the questionnaire was you said60 is the new 30, right, tell me
about that.
We like to think so right, yes,so tell me a little bit about
that.
What does that mean and what dowe have to look forward to?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That means that don't put limitations on yourself
because of your age, you know.
Do what you want to do, be, bewho you are, be who you're still
becoming, because we're stillgrowing, we're still changing,
we're still striving, we'restill uh, you know wanting to do
more.
We all have bucket lists andyou know, just go out and do it
Um and again.
I just will revert to it'snever too late to try something
(20:59):
new, so don't let the number,you know, be something that
holds you back.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love that you're alive.
Make the most of it.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's all means you're breathing right.
There's something to be done.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yes, absolutely.
This has been fantastic, Carrie.
Thank you so much.
Do you have any final wordsbefore we sign off here?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh, just thank you, nicole.
It was such a pleasure gettingto know you a little bit and
having a nice conversation withyou, so I really appreciate that
and I'm grateful.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh, I'm grateful for you too.
Thank you so much.
This has been wonderful and wewill catch you guys next time on
the next episode of OvercomingYourself, the podcast.
Bye.
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