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March 31, 2025 60 mins

James Swanwick is a former ESPN anchor, entrepreneur, speaker, and wellness coach from Australia who has been sober for over 15 years. James joins Painful Lessons to share his recovery story and talk about the overall health benefits of living alcohol-free. He shares some interesting trends in the recovery movement, which has grown more widely through celebrity culture, including with Rob Lowe, Josh Brolin, Robert Downey Jr., and our previous guest Armie Hammer. What do you think is the best way to break through to someone about living alcohol-free? Check out the interview and let us know what you think in the comments below. Thanks for watching!


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0:00 - Introduction to James Swanick

4:11 - James hasn’t had alcohol in 15 years

5:40 - Problems alcohol can cause

8:44 - Recovery solutions other than 12 steps

12:00 - The rise of self-recovery

17:25 - Josh Brolin’s mantra of “punk rock sober”

19:00 - Celebrities celebrating sobriety

24:00 - Uncomfortable reality of sobriety

27:30 - The pink cloud

36:00 - What James tells someone who is about drink and do drugs

43:54 - Tyler’s South Padre Spring Break

48:40 - “Grey area drinking”

53:50 - The benefits of being sober

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