Made to Make

Made to Make

Made to Make (formerly Painterly Life) is a podcast series about creativity across disciplines—and the resilience it takes to keep going. On this channel, you’ll find honest conversations with artists, musicians, songwriters, photographers, producers, and makers of all kinds as they share their creative process, personal challenges, and what keeps them creating through uncertainty, doubt, and change. This isn’t about hacks, overnight success, or perfect routines. It’s about the real work of living a creative life—the setbacks, breakthroughs, persistence, and the deeply human pull to make things. If you’re a creative navigating the long road, questioning your path, or looking for meaningful conversations about art and life, you’re in the right place. 🎨 Expect stories that heal, tips that empower, and creative energy to fuel your soul. 🖌️ New episodes on the first and third Thursday of the month—because every guest is a new muse, just for you.

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October 1, 2026 • 31 mins

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In this episode of the Made to Made podcast, Shannon Grissom welcomes artist Barbara Liss, who shares her inspiring journey from a rigorous legal career to embracing her passion for painting. After dedicating over 50 years to civil business litigation, Barbara discovered that art was not merely a hobby, but a vital part of her existence.

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What makes someone a maker?

For ceramic artist and educator Kent Child, the answer goes back to childhood—watching his grandfather and father work with their hands, discovering clay in the Southwest, and eventually finding his way into Japanese folk pottery, wood firing, and ceramics.

In this episode of Made to Make, Kent joins Shannon Grissom to explore the people, places, materials, and traditions that shaped ...

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What if sharing your story could help someone else heal?

In this episode of the Made to Make Podcast, veteran, author, and artist Brendan T. Kelly opens up about his journey from 22 years of military service to finding healing through writing and creativity. Together, we explore resilience, PTSD, vulnerability, and how storytelling can transform pain into purpose.

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What if the most extraordinary art begins with the most ordinary moments?

In this episode, I chat with acclaimed painterKathy Sheridan, whose luminous still lifes and intimate landscapes invite us to slow down and truly see the world around us. Kathy shares her unlikely path from pursuing science to studying with legendary painter Wayne Thiebaud, revealing how a single childhood museum visit—and later, an unexp...

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In this episode of Made to Make, host Shannon Grissom sits down with mixed-media artist Tiffany Waugh to explore a creative life driven by curiosity, experimentation, and a willingness to follow inspiration wherever it leads. Working across watercolor, ink, acrylics, digital art, crochet, sewing, and mosaics, Tiffany shares how creativity has become both a practice and a way of life.

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In this episode of Made to Make, host Shannon Grissom sits down with author Paul Cwalina to explore the winding path that led him from a successful business career to becoming a published novelist. Drawing on a lifetime of experiences, Paul shares how his upbringing, strong work ethic, and deep understanding of human nature have shaped his approach to storytelling.

The conversation dives into Paul's organic writing p...

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June 18, 2026 • 47 mins

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In this inspiring episode of We Are Made to Make, host Shannon Grissom sits down with artist, dancer, educator, architect, musician, and creative explorer Nants Foley for a rich conversation about what it truly means to live a creative life. From studying architecture and teaching in collaborative art spaces to running a rural school of husbandry and embracing collage as a current artistic passion, Nants shares how ...

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In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, artist and teacher Denise Hall opens up about her creative journey—from sketching from the family Bible as a child to building a life centered on art, family, and perseverance. Denise shares how she nurtured her passion while balancing full-time work and motherhood, along with honest insights and practical encouragement for anyone trying to make space for creativit...

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Most people think creativity comes from talent or inspiration — but for artist David Sandum, it’s been a deep, healing journey shaped by depression, trauma, and rediscovery. When life’s darkest moments hit, he turned to art, transforming pain into powerful visuals and stories that challenge how we see suffering, resilience, and self-expression. Now, David reveals how embracing instinct, symbolism, ...

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Discover how Diane Breuer’s international artistic journey shaped her unique style, her approach to fostering creative communities, and her advice for tapping into your own creativity—regardless of experience level. This episode offers inspiring insights into artistic growth, mediums, and the importance of collaboration.

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  • Diane shares her lifelong love of art, influenced by her family h...
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In this episode of the Made to Make Podcast, host Shannon Grissom talks with spiritual director and author Colette Lafia about the powerful connection between creativity and spirituality. Together they explore how creativity can become more than a skill or hobby—it can be a sacred practice that connects us with the divine.

Colette shares how creative expression can deepen self-awareness, nurture our inner lives...

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What does a lifetime of storytelling look like?

In this episode of the Made to Make Podcast, host Shannon sits down with Navy veteran, journalist, and author John Chadwell to explore a creative journey that spans decades—from military service to combat photojournalism, scriptwriting, and book publishing.

John shares how creativity can flourish even in highly structured environments like the military, and how the...

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March 19, 2026 • 38 mins

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Kentucky singer-songwriter Jason Shepard joins the Made to Make podcast to share his journey through songwriting, creativity, and building a music career while balancing family and a full-time job. (Sometimes two jobs!) In this inspiring interview, we explore his musical influences, creative process, the evolution of his sound, and how he stays committed to his artistic calling through setbacks and successes. 

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In this enchanting episode of Made to Make, we meet Heidi Hooper, an artist who has transformed something as ordinary as dryer lint into extraordinary works of art. Often called the Andy Warhol of dryer lint, Heidi shares her journey of creativity, resilience, and whimsical ingenuity.

From a childhood defying family norms to health challenges including cancer, Heidi’s path hasn’t been conventional —...

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In this episode of Made to Make, host Shannon Grissom sits down with California-based artist Deb Pepin for a soulful conversation about creativity, intuition, and the quiet power of making art. A self-taught painter, Deb shares how her artistic path unfolded organically—and how creating has become both a healing practice and a way of staying deeply connected to the natural world.

Deb opens up about her intuitiv...

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In this episode of the Made to Make podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with painter JoAnne Perez Robinson for an honest and inspiring conversation about building a creative life from the ground up.

JoAnne shares her artistic journey—from childhood doodles to becoming a professional painter—and opens up about the daily habits that shaped her career, including the discipline of painting every d...

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In this episode of the Painterly Life Podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with glass artist Caroline Masters for an inspiring conversation about creativity, experimentation, and resilience. Caroline shares how growing up in an artistic family shaped her creative identity and eventually led her to discover the transformative world of glass art.

Listeners will gain insight into the fundamentals of glass fusing, inc...

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Are you looking to ignite your creativity? 🎨✨

In this episode of the Painterly Podcast, host Shannon Grissom sits down with artist and author Juliet Blackwell—a true Renaissance woman whose work spans art, writing, anthropology, and the paranormal.

Juliet shares how childhood imagination, boredom, travel, and nature have shaped her creative life. From gardening as a meditative practice to drawing inspiration fr...

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In this inspiring episode of Painterly Life, host Shannon Grissom sits down with award-winning artist Trowzers Akimbo to explore the rich tapestry of his creative journey. Growing up in the bohemian heart of Venice Beach, Trowzers was immersed in art from an early age, eventually carrying that foundation into his formative years at art school and a dynamic career in television, advertising, and animation.

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In this enlightening episode of The Painterly Life Podcast, Shannon Grissom sits down with writer and retreat facilitator Christine Jurisich for a heartfelt conversation about creativity, spirituality, and the courage to truly listen to ourselves.

Christine shares her remarkable journey—from a fast-paced career in journalism to creating sacred spaces where people can slow down, reconnect with their spirit, and ...

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