2024 Week 17 Review: Gopher Portal Pickups, CFP Thoughts

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard react to the latest Gopher Transfer Portal pickups, talk a little bit about the Duke's Mayo Bowl and recap the opening round of the new College Football Playoff! The guys also react to Chip suffering his "first fall" of the winter. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
A Pair and a Spare.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you, PJ. It is time for another edition of
the Pair and a Spare podcast. I'm justin guard from
the fan. We've got Randy Byrne, and we've got Chipskoggins
from football across Minnesota. He's playing Hurt today. He's playing hurt.
You're gonna hear the sniffles, You're gonna hear the cough.
It might be one of those audio meltdowns again with
our guy Chipper Burnsy, but we're just glad that he's here.

(00:25):
We're just glad that he made it. And I was
worried about you, Chip after your Tennessee Volunteers performance on
Saturday night. After you I think got mad at me
for something that I tweeted, which we may get to,
but it's I'm just glad you're here.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
How are we doing? Chip?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm all right.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I was telling you guys before here. I took my
first still winner, so I have the kiddles home and
I made him crab legs right, and Eric Steam and
I get him out of there. Steam is kind of
our Christmas Uh, big dinner and your steam, and so
I had the bright ideas like I'm gonna take him
outside to cool them off.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, lo and behold.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
The top step going down to my patio had a
layer of ice. You know it's dark, you can't see it,
layer of ice. And I hit that first step and
crab legs are flying everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I got them all over the back pad.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
I'm upside down, but ankles twisted back the other way.
I got an ankle. If the injury report came out today,
you would say ankle, knee, chest.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
For me, I'd be questionable.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
But all of them, it was. My question is we'll
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
It was a face forward, whirling dervis circles covered in
crab legs, but I recruit.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I got them all in. There no no worse for
the wear for the crab legs. They tasted good.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
So well, that's what I wanted to know. Did you recover?
Like Sam Darnold everyone Sunday, the crab legs were the
equivalent of the past to Justin Jefferson on the move
after you got face masked.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
That wasn't by the way, I'm on the ground in agony,
just collecting crab legs all over the back, but they
tasted good.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I got everyone, I'm recovered, none of them.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
The Oakdale boy and me. Hears that, and it's like,
that's so Woodbury, that the Woodbury man with crab legs
there speaking of the.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Man, yeah on his back patio.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oh texture, it's over the weekend, guards you. But you
know where I went because my wife has been wanting
to go here and I'm trying to earn up some
brownie points. I went to something called the General store house. Yeah, yes,
I'm right on the other side that. Yes, the General.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh my gosh, you were able to get in the
General Store a couple of days before Christmas.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I've never seen such a full store. I spent two
hours there, and I left so incredibly angry because I
spent spent two hours there. But I don't understand the concept,
the concept of it, because it's just like Minnesota Knickknacks
for ten slower. Yeah, yet my wife still found a
way to spend one hundred and seventy five dollars and
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, consider yourself lucky first of all that you got
out of there with at one seventy five for two hours. Yeah,
we we have not been there a ton. My mother
in law likes to come down and go visit that store.
That you were in my neighborhood. You were a quarter
mile at most from my house. You should have texted me.
That's how I tell people where I live when they

(03:25):
say where do you live? And I go, do you
know where the general store is? We're on the other
side of seven. You were on the south side. We're
on the north side. That stoplight that you turned on
and went left and did a little U turn, that's
our stoplight. You go right, you go down a hill,
you go left, and we're right there where you should
have texted me. I've just been sitting around.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, I thought about it, but I was just so
angry that I agreed to go because again, I'm trying
to be the supportive husband and spend time with my
wife here a few days before Christmas. But I'm also
just like, I hate shopping, yeah so much. We can
tell you physical store and then I'm there for two
hours and the amount of just I knew I didn't
fit in there. My net worth was in the bottom

(04:03):
twenty five percent, Like the amount of nick Knacks, the
amount of stuff in that store that you don't need. Yeah,
but people want. Oh it makes me so upset.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You've got a lot of stuff about lake life in there. Yeah, yeah,
it's no trust me, yeah, trust me. I know, yeah,
I know. I mean even just what they have outside.
I mean they have like a random truck outside with
a bunch of stuff. They want you to feel nostalgic,
and you need all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
I waited twenty five minutes in a line to check
out too. Which if you want to get my gears
a grind and chipper, that'll be one of the top subjects.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well next year. Just text me give me a day
or two. Heads up. We can go hang out at
Devani's or we can go hang out at Dukes on seven,
both walking distance to my house if you want to
just go hang out there.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Either one of them is a great spot to go
hang out. So my wife to go to.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
The General Store for a couple of hours, No, nope, no,
my wife will not going unless you unless you're paying,
unless you're using some of that two four to seven
money to help us out here.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
We do not shop at the General Store. No.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Certain we know where the money is in sports, and
that's where the big Bucks are all right, Well, you're
both recovering Burnsy from his financial fall, chip from his
actual fall, and we're going to talk college football playoff.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
There's a lot of Man, I'm going to tease it with.
I think the SEC just I think the South just
needs to secede from the rest of the country for
political sake, for football sake, for everything. I think, just
for their own for their own good, because they can't
handle living with the rest of us in the college
football world. But we're going to talk about that in
a second. Let's stalk Gophers for a minute, because it

(05:42):
was another i think active couple of days. Burnsy, we
talked a week ago that on your message board, and
I've been reading the notes. It was everything's great one night,
and then no, they're not going to have an offensive
line the second night. It seems like they did find
some offensive linemen here in the last few days, and
one of them had a pretty healthy transfer portal offer list.

(06:04):
It seemed like, so, what's the update here on the
Gopher side.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, since we've talked last I'd say the two biggest
editions are offensive linemen, which I think we all can
agree Minnesota needed to address here heading into the spring.
One is a Washington tackle by the name of Khali
ta Phi who I think you can draw a lot
of similarities between him and Philip Daniels, where both were
red shirt freshmen this past season. Both played about three

(06:27):
hundred snaps in the Big Ten. Khali played them at
left tackle, Philip Daniels played them at right tackle. And
Khalia actually picked up offers from places like Alabama where
Klea de Boor, who we committed to out of high
school at the or Washington. He visited there, visited UCLA,
picked up a lot of other things. In Minnesota was

(06:48):
the place he felt most comfortable. So I think you've
added somebody there that can certainly help you at left
tackle where there was a giant hole with Arianta Ursery Leavin.
You also picked up a guy from chips Land down
in the SEC who has over a thousand snaps the
last couple of seasons, and Dylan Ray. So you look
at that offensive line that loses four starters, You've got
as much competition there as you've had between Kalie Dylan Ray.

(07:14):
You've also got Marcellus Marshall there who they took from
UCF who's almost got twenty five hundred collegiate snaps. So
you've got some pieces that they like on the offensive line.
But they did address the guards and that all is right.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
In the world.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
The two guys you said to one was a retro
freshman what year or the other two you just mentioned.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, so Dylan Ray, the kid from Kentucky is a
one year he's a red shirt senior next year. And
then Marcellus Marshall from UCF is also going to be
a one year guy. So you've got that's what they
guys rid the gap and you've got a future hopeful
tackle body there and Khaleite to five.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, assuming those kids are you know, you can come
in and play right away.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I mean that's what you need.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Some experience, yea. I don't think you want to have
a bunch of first and second year guys on your
offensive line. So that's good. I'm glad they went out
and found some veteran guys with a lot of snaps
on them.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Well, I tell you this, Minnesota has used the lack
of money via nil or now revshare is a crutch
in previous years. And that was a true statement a
couple of years ago or even last year was they
didn't have the money that a lot of these programs had.
I'd tell you from the way I understand it now,
between the amount of success that Dinkeytown Athletes has had

(08:25):
and the rev Share money, Minnesota can now no longer
use money as a crutch. You're not running, I will
say that you're not running by yourself. You're walking now,
but you don't have a walking stick or or can
there Between the rev Share and the amount of sustained
success that Derek Burns and Robert gag have had with

(08:46):
Dinkeytown Athletes, it is at least for me fun to
cover now a portal where you have at least you're
in the same ballpark for some of these transfers, which
they haven't been able to say in previous years. So
I will say that because I know that everybody can
always have more money, and everybody can have more McDonald's
bags like Tennessee. But I mean Minnesota doesn't have that

(09:08):
type of money. But they have enough money now to
where you look at the amount of success they've had
in the portal. Money is a part.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Of that well, and they're able to keep coy Perrich
and Darius Taylor.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Well That's the biggest part of it too, is look
at the roster retention. Look at all the players you
wanted to retain and you've retained that have signed their
deals with either Dinkytown Athletes and or the university itself
for the revshare agreements coming this summer. Like, if you
want proof is in the pudding, proof is in the
player retention, and proof is in the guys you were
able to land from the portal.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Hey, when they're getting these portal guys, do they I
mean they haven't figured out how much each guy is
getting in the revenue sharing yet, obviously, right, But how
much of that is a sales pitch when you're going
after these you know, well.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Depends how much money is a factor for these guys,
how much of money versus how much of it is
just development, how much of it is playing time. Everybody's
a little bit different. Every case is a little bit different.
I would remind you guys and the listeners that the
ref share doesn't come into effect until at the earliest,
from what I understand, July first, So then it's okay,

(10:14):
Well if and when that actually does get approved by
the House, and now the House settlement is going through
more steps and there's becoming more clarity there. It's okay, Well,
in the next six months we have to offset that,
probably with Dicky Town athletes money and does Dicky Town
Athletes have the money? And I mean there's some nil
collectives out there that make promises and from the way

(10:35):
I understand it, then don't deliver. And that's why I
appreciate the way that Derek and Robert are building this
thing with their not promising money that they don't have.
So the refshare stuff comes into it. I mean, everybody
wants to get money, but everybody's amount is going to
be a little bit different. It's not equal shares across
the board. I'll say that.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I mean I think I remember correctly.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I think Mark Cole will totally number of out the
oars too, that they were hiring a general manager type
position for the department. Well, so I'm curious to see
how much of that that position helps football or is
that the other ones because I gotta imagine football. I mean,
Garrett and those guys in pj A're gonna have a
big say in how that money gets dispersed.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Well, the thing I think we're all still waiting complete
clarity on is of that house money, how much of
it can go to football? How much of it can
it has to go to non rev sports? Is it
Title nine? Is it not Title nine? How does Mark
Coyle then determine what percentage does football get? Because they're
the Golden Goose, I think there's a lot of things

(11:37):
that they're trying to figure out that they have a
great idea on, and from the way I understand it,
I think football is going to get a bulk of it.
Now is a bulk? Fifty percent is a bulk? Two
thirds is a bulk? Three fourths? I think that's still
trying to be determined behind the scenes. But yeah, I
mean within the football program itself, it's Garrett Turnoff, it's
Marcus Hendrickson. Then working with the coaching staff on here's

(11:59):
how much money we have at XYZ positions. Sounds very
similar to the NFL in that aspect of right, what
do we want to pay for this versus what's our
budget for this? Versus what have we already spent in
player retention? So it's an interesting little nuance that this
is year one for the staff of trying to figure
out how do you want to spend your money and

(12:20):
where do you want to spend your money. So I'm
not saying it's right or wrong. It's just fascinating to
kind of follow behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
The number I keep hearing floating around about what the
percentages are going to be is football is going to
get somewhere in the neighborhood of seventy percent of that money,
which I think is who knows? Is that right on
with some other schools. Some schools might do ninety or
ninety five who knows. And then the basketball is obviously
I think volleyball is going to be one that potentially.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Will get it.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't know if they're really operating under a Title
nine deal because I think a lot of it has
to do with opportunities for spots as opposed to opportunities
to make money. I think it depends on how you
read the lotchhip. You've talked about that a lot or you've.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Talked about a judge is going to decide how it
hits the Yeah, somebody's going to take.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
That to court.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
From what I've heard, like most coaches are pretty happy
the ones that are involved in the REV share.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I haven't asked, of course, every coach wants more. When
I say happy, I don't mean like, oh wow, yeah,
we don't need a dollar more, mister Coyle. But I
think every coach is somewhat happy for the most part.
I think with the how they're what the number that
they've been told is going to happen, and that is
with football getting, like you said, the bulk of it,

(13:32):
which obviously they should, I mean, and every I think
every coach kind of understands that too. So I think
they're going to be in a pretty good spot. What's
nice about it is we've had this discussion. I mean
as long as I can remember. You know, it was
the U has always been behind on where college football
has been going, you know, like they played in the Metrodome,
which was a terrible decision, you know, back in the

(13:53):
nineteen eighties moving off campus. Stupid, right, but that was
a mess for a minute. Then we heard it was facilities.
We got to get up with facility. There's always been
this arms race that they've been behind on and is
this going to make the difference in Are all of
a sudden we going to go back to the nineteen
sixties and win national championships? If I had to bet
I would say no. But to keep your competitive you

(14:14):
have to eliminate these things that you're behind on. Like
it doesn't mean just because we did this, you're going
to all of a sudden win at a super high level.
But if you don't do it, it's another reason for
people to go. Why would you go to Minnesota? They
don't have this, they don't have that. They don't have this.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
We have it.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
They've equalized at least put themselves on equal footing where
it's not an excuse anymore. I think to your point, Burnsey,
it's not a crutch anymore that can be used against them.
It doesn't guarantee that next year at this time we're
going to be talking college football playoff and all of
those things. But you're at least in the ballpark now
with all of this and the rev share. Being in
the Big ten is a good place to be. It's

(14:50):
one fewer barrier to.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Entry for me. Yeah, you finally were able to get
through that now Again, Fleck will tell you, everybody within
that football program will tell you we always could use
more money to compete with of course XYZ, but you
now have access to as much money as you've ever
had and now it's about talent. I guess identification. How

(15:12):
do you want to spend the money? Where does it go?
I mean, these are different problems than you had twelve
months ago.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Well, there's not a coach in America, and I don't
care if you're at Alabama Texas that doesn't think they
need more because somebody else is in.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Of course, wasn't it the Alabama Athletic director. We're going
to get to that week. I was going to get
to that right now.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It's hilarious, an emotional plea and I don't need to
read it verbatim, but the language was hilarious where he
basically said, look here at Alabama, we've done things the
right way, and we do things the right way, and
we have a certain way of handling ourselves that maybe
some of our competitors don't. And we've had multiple players

(15:51):
lured away by million dollar offers and all of this
and blah blah blah. Well, now it's time Alabama Nation,
Crimson Nation, to fight back. We're gonna fight back. It's
just this thick like we've been doing it. We we
tried to be classy, we tried to do it the
Alabama way. We tried to do it like Coach Bryant
would have wanted us to do. But now those days

(16:12):
are over. Go read it if you want. It feels
like there should be some music in the background, So yeah,
Masters music or the Sarah McLaughlin you know, abused Animals music,
you know for those commercials.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Where it's like the arms of an angel.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, I'm just like, this is so thick and I like,
I'm a big saving guy.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I like Kaylen de boor the whole bit.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
But it was so thick and so like, we need
your help now, Like it's not enough that you're you know,
selling out t Denny Bryant Stadium or whatever it is,
and you know, buying all of our stuff and you
know giving it you blah blah blah. This is up
to you now if you want us to be not
compared to other people, because that's not who we compare
ourselves to. This was the other great part. We have

(16:58):
been the standard. Alabama is the stand and that's what
we compare ourselves to. It's like, my god, my god.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
How hard was the eye rolls around the country on
that from.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well everybody, I mean, it got universally panned. I think
I don't think anybody looked at it and goes, oh, yeah,
this makes sense. I mean, I get what he's doing,
and everybody's doing it to a certain extent. Right, every
coach is saying we need more money, every athletic director
is saying we need more money, but just the way
that they did it, like we didn't want to do this,
but everybody else is. And but we're gonna do it
our classy way, the Alabama standard way, and that's what

(17:32):
we're gonna do it. So yeah, you're right, Burnsy. Thank
you for reminding me, because it was definitely on the
list that Alabama. Now now Alabama's going to play dirty.
They weren't doing it before, they weren't doing it. They
tried to rise above it, but now they're gonna. George
is doing it, Tennessee's LSU's doing so I guess if
we have to, and we need more money from the fans,
so please donate to us.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Well, it reminds me of College Game Day this weekend
when Shane Gillis was on and he was making some
jokes about it, and he looked at Nick what I
now call Indieanna Jones Sabin with that hat that he
had on. I literally couldn't get that out of my mind.
He looks like a southern Indiana Jones, which he looked.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I loved you. He looked incredible. He looked incredible.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Somebody had to go get him a whip and then
we had to go find But even just Shane gillis
making jokes and Nick Saban just like stone face not
and you can see how uncomfortable Shane is because he's
obviously a comedian. H That whole bit was just I
thought that was incredibly Yes, the self awareness of that
town man. Come on now.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, Well we're gonna pivot to some SCC stuff here
in a minute, but I'm glad you brought up Game
Day two because number one, Saban has been in an outstanding,
outstanding edition, which we all knew he would be right.
I mean, anytime they weren't in the College Football Playoff,
which was rare, he was always on this on the
desk and what I and and I'll say this too,
I mean, if you don't think Pat McAfee has added

(18:58):
something to that show, yeah, yeah, and I know he's
put and I know even a year ago, there was
some you know, college football protectors that didn't like it.
And I know there's people that you know, like Mace
just talked about he doesn't like watching McAfee on game day.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I don't think Barrero does either. I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I think what he's added to that show, like the
electricity the I had my whole family was watching the
field goal kick at I think notreed Aim or maybe
it was the next day at Columbus. I'm not sure.
It's he's brought Jews. He like you could tell Sabin
likes him, you know, which he finds what an unlike
a likely pairing that is.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, well, it's just the show being added for.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
The Barrero types. He's added for the younger kids to try.
And I mean he's someone that connects with the forty
and undercrowd.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, And I wasn't sure.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I mean McAfee, you knew he was going to bring
an audience, you know, because he has such a big platform,
But I wasn't sure like how Saban would be, if
he would really kind of get into the spirit of it.
But you could see, like in Herbstreet was right there
to day. Is like when he started the rant about
Ohio State, He's like.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
You're good for about thirty seconds there you could tell.
And he's done this before, Like he starts talking and
then it strikes a nerve withinside and then he starts getting.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Works himself up.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Let's cut the b A.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, yeah, it was great. Well, and how he shredded
He shredded Sig you know on Friday night. Yeah, Sig
does this whole thing about how you know, working with him,
you know, was great. Like they all do. They all bowed.
They all kissed the ring, right, all the coaches. Yeah,
you know, Kirby Smart did it when they're there, you know,
Sark did it, and they should. I mean this guy,
all these guys working right now, Saban had some type

(20:37):
of impact on either directly or indirectly.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
They all kissed the ring.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
And Signette did the same thing like, hey, I learned
a lot from coach and just the standard being the
standard every day and yeah, I put my own spin
on it. And Saban's response is, well, the one thing
you didn't learn from me is all that bleep you talk,
you know, like that's so good. I mean, that's that's
such good television. So I the fact that he is different,
like he can just chop it up and be a

(21:02):
normal guy and not this, you know, robotic Nick Saban.
Every day you're better than the last the show. And
I know Big Noon Saturday has had good ratings as well,
but Game Day got a little push from them, you know,
a year or two ago, like Fox was coming for him.
And I don't think there's any doubt what the standard
bearing show remains is College game Day. Big Noon is great,

(21:22):
Urban Meyer is good, like I like all of that,
but Game Day recreating itself with those two guys with
with Saban and McAfee, it's just electric. I mean it's
it bums me out when I can't watch it, when
we're on the road or we're doing something, it just
bums me out. And their playoff shows have been tremendous.
Yeah you want to add can't say, can't add anything.

(21:44):
It was too perfect. No, all right, So anything else,
Portal rele we need to talk to Burns. We're pretty
much done now right where we think until the spring.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Yeah, they just got a commitment here in the last
few minutes from a UCLA slot receiver.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
So logan lawyer who cut over one hundred balls for
the Bruins, was a team captain for them. Minnesota loses
Daniel Jackson Elijah Spencer. Ironically, Loya's best game of the
season this year was against the Iowah Hawkeys and that
upset win for them where he had nine catches and
a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
So, oh, you have to throw against Iowa? That's weird.
Who knew? Who knew? Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Who knew you could have a big day receiving against Iowa.
I thought that was impossible, but UCLA figured it out.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Okay, So he get to add him for his last
season here in twenty twenty five. Give you some more
experience there. So between Jaybon Tracy, who was a first
team All matt guy, and then Logan Loya, who brings
over one hundred catches and was a team captain, you know,
they were addressing some of the needs that I thought
that were going to be needs. So we love to
see that for them.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
So how many, So that's it's fourteen's at thirteen because
they were yeah, fourteen.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
So they're at fourteen now, which Flex said on signing day,
somewhere between ten and fifteen. I think they would have
probably gone over fifteen if they would have landed some
I'm a you know, another linebacker or another corner or
another defensive end potentially, But again I will remind everybody,
the whole thing is about the one oh five. You
don't have to be under the one oh five until

(23:13):
I think August first, from the way I understand it,
So they're gonna have They're gonna still be over that
going into the spring and probably going into the summer
as well. But I think you're gonna see a lot
of transfers out in that April time period as Minnesota
works to get underneath that number.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
How many there it? Now?

Speaker 5 (23:30):
You think, oh, they're probably around, probably around one oh
five or so, But then you got to remind remind
yourself that the incoming yeah, which is gonna be another
twelve to fifteen freshman, So you're gonna have to lose
another probably ten guys after the spring.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
All right, So we got the bowl game coming up
here in a little bit. This will be our last episode.
We think maybe Burnsley now mess around to do something
in Charlotte. I don't know, but we are going to
the Soda Social. We'll give you details on that later.
But we get official confirmation that I think Wally is
going to sit the Bowl game, right and also Cody Lindenberg,
it sounds like is declaring for the NFL drafts. So

(24:09):
any other personnel updates we need to get to on
who's playing, who's not playing. As this is, they're kind
of doing some announcements here.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, we don't know for sure because we haven't had
any media availability.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh, salty burns, there you go. There was twenty four men. Yeah,
twenty four minutes. Twenty four minutes. We finally got some salt.
You could have used some of that salt on your
patio last night, Chip to get that ice.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Melt grim shot for us.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
I don't expect Lindenberg. I don't expect Wally, I don't
expect John Joiner, Ariante Ersrie, I don't expect Daniel Jackson
to play.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
So you're gonna be looking at a lot of your
key contributors now. A nice thing on the other side
is Virginia Tech had six players make all acc this fall,
and that's not honorable mention. All six are not expected
to play in this game. So it's it's gonna be
a the battle of depth between the two rosters, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's gonna be electric Friday Night in Charlotte's going to
be electric. All right, Let's pause here quickly, and we
will come back and talk about the college football playoff,
review the first weekend and preview the second games and
figure out if the SEC just wants to secede and
just do its own thing and not have to worry
about the rest of us. And when I say SEC,
I mean SEC media too, and college football media. I

(25:25):
think that you just need to go into your own sandbox.
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(28:20):
of weeks Jackscafe dot com. All right, let's open up
the playoff discussion. We had our first weekend one game
on Friday three on Saturday. None of them were especially competitive.
Open floor, your opening reaction, Burnsy to start with you
through the first weekend any started any way you want,

(28:40):
and then we got a lot of things to discuss here.
But on the first college football playoff weekend with twelve teams.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
I wish the Indiana game was last and not first.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Great point, great point, go ahead is what I.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Wish would have happened, because the amount of discourse on
Friday night about Alabama or Ole miss or whoever you
wanted to slot in there was nauseating to me. And
then it turns out that Indiana's loss was the closest
one of the entire weekend, including the two Big Ten
teams with gigantic wins in in terms of score. I

(29:16):
just I'm so upset with the way that prominent college
football people handled that Indiana game, because if I don't
think the discussion should be Alabama in that instance, because
we've somehow gone from I remember seeing the quotes float
around this morning from the ESPN personnel compared to what

(29:40):
they were in twenty seventeen, and it's if we're just
going to say wins don't matter anymore and we should
just go off. Whether you think it's just the eye
test or recruiting rankings or the AP preseason poll, what
are we doing at this point? Chip?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, I had a couple thoughts. One and I love
that the games are on campus.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Every every every atmosphere was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I don't you know.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I saw Wessel say he wishes they would do this
next round on campus too.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I think that would be cool.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
I don't know that they'll ever do that, but the first,
the first weekend of games having that on campus, I
mean that Notre Dame atmosphere was off the charts in
Ohio State, and I didn't get to see a lot
of the Texas atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
But that was cool.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
I saw that it was great, so that was cool.
This is an argument that no one is going to win,
but everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I don't want the.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
College Football Playoff to be the big ten SEC shootout.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Agree, mm hmm. Like, do I think.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Indiana is one of the twelve best teams in the country?
Probably not right, but I like the idea of having
representation in there and not just having seven SEC teams
and eight SEC teams. You're not the strength to schedule Indiana.
They don't pick who they get to play in in

(31:16):
in the conference. That's not their fault. They took advantage
of having a good schedule. And people say, well, look
at their non conference schools make these non conferences probably
ten years ago. Do you think Indiana ten years ago
is gonna say, you know what, let's look up with Alabama.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, They're like, we're Indiana football, who are you going
to So it's like, and I don't think, you know,
uh yes to SEC.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Some of the powers will play when those marquee games
early in the year, but look who else they play.
I mean there's some cupcakes in there too, so and
they only play eight conference games whereas the Big Tens
playing nine. So I Indiana, there's no way anybody who's
going to leave out a one lost team over a

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three lost team.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
You just make a mockery of the selection.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Do I think? Now?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
If you said, okay, Alabama's gonna play Indiana, who you
if you had a bet.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Who you can put your money on, I'd probably put
it on Alabama. But that's not the That's not the
argument we're making here, right.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
I'm glad you ended with that because you got me
upset and then you brought me back down to earth.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
There is.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
If it's it's gotta be about the wins and I
and I get the argument for Indiana's schedule, but I
also look at a preseason and you would say, okay,
well they had Michigan and Washington on there. Who were
the two teams in the national title who both teams
just happened to take a step back, which okay, I
mean we we.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Michigan just beat Ohio State, like who just looked amazing
against Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh And bad loss matters too. Bad losses.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
You can't ignore bad We can look at good wins,
but you can't ignore bad losses.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Like Ole miss you can't lose to a lifeless four
and eight Kentucky team and Alabama you can't get blown
out by an awful six and six Oklahoma team by
three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
But more than you know, this is more about the
SEC saying we're the superior conference.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
And play nine conference games and get up with the
rest of us and stop playing mercer in November.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
But but they're they're saying, is okay, even if we
have three losses, we're better than them.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
That might be the case, But again, I don't want
to go back. I don't want the College Football Playoff
to have eight SEC teams, right, That's what I want
to be.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
That's what they want to want to be called.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, I want to be spread out, like I want
to have an SMU. Did it you know? Were they
overmatch Hell?

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yes, guess what Tennessee was overmatch two against Ohio State.
I mean that's why I'm disappointed. I'm not mad, like
Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Can go win this thing.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
If they play like that, they'll win the College Football
Playoff because they have as much talent in more Town
than anyone other than organ.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Well, I think the argument that we all have to
try and get our minds around is there are twelve
teams in the playoff, But I think we all would
agree going into Friday night's game, we all thought there
were not twelve teams capable of winning the damn thing. Like,
there are probably three to six teams that we would
say or we would have argued, yeah, they're gonna win it.
But then there there's also three to six teams where

(34:06):
it's like, well, they deserve to be there, they did
get there, now let's see their shot. And we've seen
teams like TCU a couple of years ago get hot
at the right time. But college football is so different
than say college basketball in the instance where if a
team gets hot come March, they can go deep and
they can go a long way and.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Four a year ago after almost losing in the first
round of the a SEC tournament and needing that and
needing to win it to get in, like, it's a
totally different deal.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
And that's where in football, I think it's a much
different game. But you also have to value the wins
and the losses because to your point, ship, maybe there
are six talented teams in the SEC that have enough talent,
Well that's great, But this game isn't played just on talent.
It's played on for sixty minutes over twelve weeks, and

(34:58):
you have to win the games. Shouldn't be able to
get in. I just cannot. I was so upset on
Friday night reading the discourse, and then it turns out
that Indiana game is the closest one of the entire weekend,
which everybody's also complaining, Well, none of these games were competitive.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Go back and look at the numbers. You want the numbers,
I'll give you the numbers.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Fifty nine to twenty, forty two to twenty thirty seven
to seventeen, thirty eight, donut twenty four to seven, thirty
one zero, twenty four, six thirty to three, forty four,
sixteen sixty three, twenty eight, forty two, twenty five, thirty one,
fourteen forty nine, twenty eight, fifty two, twenty four, twenty
seven to six, eleven, thirty three, eleven, sixty five to seven,
thirty four to thirteen. These lopsided college football games have

(35:42):
been going on since the beginning twenty four of thirty
four games decided by double digits. That from David Warlock,
who is the main NCAA basketball March Madness sports information director.
This is, by the way, this first year with twelve teams,
he's doing games when there were four when we got
to pick the best four or we thought we were
picking the best for And by the way, the other thing,

(36:04):
what I do think they're gonna have to change, and
we talked about this last week, is the automatic buy.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, that's got to change.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, because we don't know how would Indiana fair against
Boise State, for example, How would Indiana fair against Arizona State?
How would Clemson farragut Like, you've got two teams that
are lower in the rankings that got the automatic buy,
and we don't we don't know, Like when you're one
of the at large teams, you're you're maybe hosting the
game and you're really good. If you're an at large team,

(36:30):
you're a team that they have deemed worthy of being
in there, even though you didn't win a conference championship
because you may be stubbed your toe along the way
or lost to another great team. So we have no idea,
like because of how they seeded it, what the actual
if the games would have been more competitive. But to
act like, man, we've got no competitive games. We've rarely
had competitive games in the semis of the College Football

(36:53):
Playoff or last year even the championship.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right, yeah, yeah, So it's just but it is.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's the it's it's the SEC, it's the SEC media,
it's your guys, fine bomb, it's Herb Street even you know,
basically going Indiana was out class.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Well so is Clemson in SMU. So what do we do? Uh?
So is Tennessee. So what do you do with this?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's just if if well, if we're not gonna say
the regular season matters at all, and and we're gonna
go through all this trouble to bring all these teams together,
but then say at the end they shouldn't be there,
what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
And I think.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
I think the boss will probably continue if you're gonna
have games on campus, because I think all those teams
benefited from home field advantage. I mean, I thought Indiana
was nervous, they played tentative, they coached tentative. They I
think the atmosphere and you know, if they're at a
neutral site, would the big stage get to them too?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Probably? Maybe, But.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
You know they're gonna they're gonna there's gonna be a
push from the SEC crowd to examine closer strength to schedule.
But Indiana it should apologize for Michigan taking a step back,
for Washington taking step back.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
They don't get to pick there. They don't get to
pick their conference.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And some years, you know what you're gonna play Oregon,
Penn State, Ohio State, and you know you're gonna have
a tough schedule and it's gonna be hard to take
advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
In some years you're gonna get what they did and
you maximize it.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
That's the other thing about it is, Yeah, Okay, they
didn't have a great strength to scot They beat the
pants off of everyone they played essentially, right, they were
winning by three four touchdowns every game. Was it just
they were squeaking by their the Cinderella team. I mean,
I think their average win of the eleven that they
had was over twenty points a game.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
The one the one thing I changed I think they
definitely have to make is given the automatic by to
the top four conference because it doesn't make sense to
have the number nine seed that you think is the
ninth best team in your rankings get a three seed.
I mean that just doesn't make sense, right, And so.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Where now Ohio State answered, how are they going to
look coming off that Michigan.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I mean they were there.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Their team speed, their team speed was so superior to
what Tennessee had.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
The fact that they have to play Oregon in this round,
I mean that could be a national I think they're
the two best teams left right right, Notre Dame showed
me a lot I thought I had.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I thought that game might be a little bit closer
because I don't.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Think Notre Dame had it particularly tough schedule, and they
had a you know, obviously the one really bad loss
in Nordellinois.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
But they look good.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Man, they looked really good. But I think Oregon and
Ohio State are two best teams left.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
I think if I would do it again, if I
was the college football Playoff, I would reseed where you
can give automatic inclusion into the playoffs, but to have
them be the twelve seed, you know, see them one
through twelve, Yes, whatever it may be. I think I
would almost flip flop the way that they did the
opening round versus the bye week round. Now where I
think that opening round you do the bowl game thing

(39:58):
where this weekend you've got the Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl
whatever it may be, and then actually give the one
through four seeds the game on campus where if you're
only going to do one of the weeks, give it
to the teams that earned it, where their fan base
and everything has been able to see that, and then
you can get in from there too. But I also
think this whole discussion comes back to, well, guess what

(40:20):
the College Football Playoff now has gone behind closed doors
where we don't know what their process is because they
won't tell us our process. Where everybody hated the BCS
back in the day because it was computers or whatever
it may be, Well, now it's even worse because now
you don't know what it is. Now it's essentially just
trying to become into a TV invitational, which I just again,

(40:41):
I want to know what the process is for them.
They haven't been incredibly forthcoming with it. I think they
made some mistakes and what they told us would matter
going into the especially championship game week and what won't matter.
I just again, I want to be as transparent as
I can be if i'm them, and I don't know
that I know what their process is of. How does

(41:03):
you know teams one through twelve actually dictated, which is
the problem to me.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
And this point's been raised by a couple people, a
couple of national writers.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I think it's true.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
The committee boxes themselves in by having the weekly unveil
leading up to it. And it's great, you know, it
gives us something to talk about, you know, it gives
people to talk about for a week. But when you
have SMU ranked the head of Alabama going into that
conference championship game and they lose, where you're not gonna
panalize the team for making a conference championship or another.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Team not playing.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
And so.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Now if they did it away with that and just said,
you know what, after the conference championship, we're gonna unveil the.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Bracket, that's hard to do too.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Now you're gonna have even less.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Transparency Burnsey, because they don't have to tell you anything.
You don't have any idea what they're thinking behind closed
doors leading up to this. And then they could be
more of that sec pressure where hey, here's six sec
things in them saying well, I've also I test. We
just think even though they had three losses.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
We think they're the toughest.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
You know, they're better than this.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I'm not sure that's the answer.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
I just again, I don't know what the answer is.
I'm the one who always wants to try and find solutions.
I just know that last year when an undefeated Florida
State doesn't get in over you know, over Alabama, and
then you have this year Alabama doesn't get in, and
then you still have all the blowouts. Well, as guards,
he pointed out, every one of these first round games,
whether it's been four or twelve, historically has been that.

(42:29):
Now maybe that changes here in the second round, but
you still got I'm looking at the point spreads for
this upcoming weekend. I mean, Texas is a two touchdown
favorite against Arizona State, Penn State is a ten point
favorite against Poise. The Notre Dame Georgia and Ohio State
Oregon Ones are within a couple of points. But again
history would tell us. As guards, he already just pointed out,

(42:49):
there's probably gonna be a lot of blowouts again this
weekend as we try to figure this thing out.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. But it's just they just
want their own tournament, the CEC. I mean, they really do.
They just want they don't want anybody else included I
mean Lane Kiffin tweeting on Friday night and then, by
the way, not tweeting after Tennessee got boat raced. I
don't think he I don't think I saw anything there.
It's like, yeah, he didn't trust me. We all saw that. Yeah,

(43:14):
but it's like and we all love Lane, he's great,
but it's like, you can't be all lowed. And then
oh wait, an SEC team just got, you know, boat
raced in Columbus with forty thousand volunteer fans making the
trip up there. Like it's just you got If you're
going to be a national sport, you have to have
national representation.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
It's not that complicated.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
It's okay, it's okay, you know, to have just you know,
a handful of SEC teams get in and like you said, Chip,
it doesn't need to be the SEC Big ten Invitational.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Like that's my fear with with.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Their money and power, that it's going to say we're
gonna get three automatic qualifiers or three whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
And maybe they will if they go to sixteen, because
I do think they're going to expand it at some point.
There's just too much money to not do it. Then sixteen, Yeah,
I think they'll do that and then and then you
can have more teams and then everybody. Then everybody can
be happy. Although even then no one's going to be happy.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Hey, you might think about as you're saying, it's like, well,
then the season is going to be explained.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
But hey, it goes back to your point. You brought
it last week.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
You were you were a visionary, laughed, you laughed, and
I sent you the screenshot of how do you fix it?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
You have to move the season up. You just have
to if you want to, because the calendar is not
changing for schools. Right, And they talked a lot about
this on game day again. You know you've got unless
you just say you can't transfer until spring and you
have one window, like, I don't see, you have to
move it up a couple of weeks. One of the
coaches said that, right, I sent you the screenshot. I

(44:38):
was very diplomatic about that, you know, yeah, I mean
you guys laughed at me.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Move this visionary.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah, if only they asked us. But I don't see
any other way.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
And then try to end it, you know, first week
of January, because I think the title game used to
be January ninth, which was a little bit closer or
you know that first week after New Year's you have
the semi.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
So you know, it's hard about that though, because we
had a friend who a kid went to a PAC
twelve school.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
They start so late. It was weird.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
They didn't start to like I can't remember what to
start they but they this kid was a freshman. It
missed like three home games. Yeah, but they played three
home games before the It was like, you know, I
mean as part of the coll experience going. You know,
if you're not even enrolled or you're not even on campus,
you're not moved into your dorm, and they've already played
a couple I.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Don't know that's freshman.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
That's a that's a minor thing.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I know that's a minor thing, but that would be
a bummer if you had to miss you know, if
you're going to school and you've already started the season
a month before you get.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
There, you know, well that's where the whole thing comes
back to the portal And you saw Penn State's quarterback
backup quarterback hit the portal and it's now committed to Missouri,
I believe. Is the football calendar and the academic calendar
do not line up, which is why it would make
a ton of sense to Guard's point, where, Okay, the
day after the national championship the portal opens for seven

(46:01):
days or whatever it may be. Well, guess what, by
the time January seventeenth rolls around, there are going to
be places that are starting school already, and if you
don't haven't applied. Now again, all these football programs can
get things through admissions pretty quickly, especially compared to a
lot of different places. But because the football calendar and
the academic calendar don't line up, that's where the biggest

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issue last. Because Guard, You's right, I mean they should
in theory start in mid August at that point, if
this is the way that the sport is trending. Yeah,
the academic calendar piece of it, where everybody starts their
January term or their spring semester at a different point,
which makes it ever the more complicated.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
What was the deal the SMU backup quarterback is in
the portal but still in the team. Did I was
that right? Because se quarterback had thrown there, you know,
three picks.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
To like, Bolly Green had multiple players in the portal
that were their best players that played, that's right, and
then they ended up going somewhere else after the bowl
game because they wanted to see if they could boost
their stock against a Big ten team.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So just because col Kramer said no and Cole Kramer
said no, we're gonna dice.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, that's the So that's up to each individual coach
whether they.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Correct every situation. Coach is different with how they want
to handle it. Like Virginia Tech is probably going to
have multiple players in the portal that are going to
play in this game. Now it's up to every coach,
as you said, but I mean I don't see any
Minnesota players that are in the portal still playing. Uh,
But it's up to each individual coach on how that

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thing goes.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
All right, So we got to quarterfinals now coming up
on New Year's even New Year's Day, Penn State, Boise
State in the Fiesta Bowl, Texas, Arizona State in the
Peach Bowl, Ohio State, Oregon as we mentioned, in the
Rose Bowl, and Notre Dame Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.
By the way, I love how college football can't cut
the ties with the traditions. The dumbest thing of the
week and Chip, you know what, I'm saying, when the

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winning coach of these games got to the press conference
and the Bull representative is there to do the the
good old boys, when you know, we're just so thankful
and we're we'd love to extend an invitation to you
to play in the Rose Bowl, It's like, my god,
can we get more pretentious?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Like we all how embarrassing was that, I mean, standing
there like we'd like to have you.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Know, yeah, here's your ball, and we're just so pleased
to welcome you to blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
It's like, come on, guys, they just won this huge
game in their home.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Can we just move the sport forward a little bit
and stop with this good old boy's crap, like we
don't need your bowl blazer moment and photo op. It's
just insane how stupid that is. But that's my that's
our sport. That's college football. They love, you know, the
these Boll executives, they have to do something to take
these six figure salaries that they're getting. So which games

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are we excited about here? What are we looking for?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Obviously the Rose Bowl is going to be I I
mean Rosewell.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
I think could be a national championship game. I just
think that was a classic game first time. I think
Ohio State, if they played the way they did the
other night and they're feeling good, I Notre Dame the
way they played, I think that Notre Dame Georgia game
is gonna be a hell of a game.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Georgia with their quarterback issues.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
And confirmed that he won't be playing, Carson Beck will
not be playing at any point.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
That's too bad.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
So it's gonna be the Gunner Stockton show going against it.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah, I mean, they still have a you know, Georgia
obviously has still a ton of athletes. But I was
really impressed with Notre Dame just the way they played
the other night. They really took it to Indiana physically.
They dominated that line in both trenches. I mean, they
dominated that game.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
And so they're they're that's first time I really got
to see him, you know, for a full game.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
And uh.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
And Odnnis Stott had them in the National Championship.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
They're they're pretty good. That's gonna be a fun game.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
I'm excited to see Ashton Genty go against that Penn
State defense. Yeah, I mean we all saw Penn State.
We all agreed that Penn State's defense is college football
playoff worthy.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
And to start, by the way, sorry to interrupt, two pick.
I know like that poor SMU quarterback man, I know
there was he was not ready for the whiteout conditions.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
I mean literal ghosts.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I mean, my goodness. To the second one too, You're like,
they're really gonna do it. This guy's really going to
rumble in. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Go ahead, yeah, I mean, just Ashton Genty against that
Penn State defense. I mean Genty has done it all season.
He did it against Oregon. Now, Boise States had a
week to prepare. Penn State just had to play. I
think I know which way it'll go. But again, this
is why we play the games.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
For Arizona State, it's can they stop anything on the
run game? For Texas, Texas can run the football at will.
Arizona State has struggled to do so. They've also got
the Mike Alstott bowling ball that is cam scatabow that
I'm excited to see. And I think the two best
games will be the Notre Dame Georgia and the Ohio
State Oregon, which you get part two of that amazing game.

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I remember that one being on in the press box.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Yeah, now they get to actually.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Go to the Rose Ball and play the game.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Like I think, again, if I'm going to be the
purest type, I mean, I think that final game of
the season should always be the National championship game should
be at the Rose Bowl, just because of every Now
that I've had a chance to experience it myself, I
get it. I get the ambiance, and I get the
whole nostalgia part of it. But again, there's gonna be

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some I think the last couple of games will be
better than the first couple of games, but maybe every
one of them's a bloat like it has been historical.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
We have this conversation in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
But I'm curious to see whether having already played helps,
you know, versus a team that hasn't played yet the
nerves out.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
If that has any kind of bearing on it.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
You know, we'll find out. But it's gonna be a
nice couple of days, I'd say. Even though the games
were competitive, it was awesome the first weekend. Yeah, the
build up was fun, the vibe was fun, the on
campus stuff was fun, the crowds.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Were the atmospheres and you know, like my Tennessee fans.
They went it, you know, had a big turnout in Columbus.
I mean obviously we got drilled, but.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
But that was I mean that made for it, you know,
I mean that that scene just I I don't know
how if they if they will make that big lead, because.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
The Bulls have such it still as we saw with
the Blazers, and they still have such a huge pool
on college football still power over if they'll, if they'll
ever get past and let this round be on campus.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
But I wouldn't be opposed to it. Man, he created something.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Especially Boise this weekend and the blue turf, right and
what that see would have been like for Boise to
be able to host Penn State, right, I mean that
that had been incredible. That's where Yeah I wish I
wish that. And again I understand because of corporate sponsorship
money and YadA YadA YadA and the bowl games, but
like I would love to see the best four teams

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or the seeds one through four be able to host
a home playoff game.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, they're definitely going to tinker with it, right, I
mean we know that, like this is this was a
grand experiment and a lot went into doing this. How
long were we waiting for them to expand at twelve?
Things sometimes move glacially, even in college sports, when things
change by the minute. So they're definitely going to take
a look at a lot of different things, and I'm
sure that will be part of the discussion. But I'm
glad that there were on campus games to begin with.

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And even the weather. Like to hear people say how
cold it was thirty seven degrees, You're like, okay, you know, yeah,
or it's in a sweatshirt in that weather, yeah, exactly.
It just and you think about the possibilities of other
places where you can have some of these games, certainly
here in the Midwest.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
You know, it's it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
So I'm glad that and it gets discussion going, and
the ratings are gonna be good and the games, you know,
the games are gonna be what the games are gonna be.
Even with four, like we said a long time ago,
there were always blowouts and you get you get random
matchups that don't work out the right way. So but
it's gonna be fun. Anything else we want to talk
about there before we put a lid on this thing.

(54:25):
Be good, everybody good, Chip you made it through the podcast. Yeah,
it's gutty. Burnsy and I are on the way to
Charlotte Chip again, no factor. It's just gonna be the
pair in Charlotte for the Duke's Mayo Bowl, which is
one week from Friday, January third. And if you're coming
to Charlotte, we'll go to the Soda Social again, right,

(54:46):
burns Ey, the Soda Social All American Pub on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
It's near Bank of America Stadium.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
My understanding is that once you get to that uptown
Charlotte area, everything's walkable pretty much. So if you're staying
in that uptown Charlotte area kind of where the stadium is,
this is where this spot is. So if you're hanging
out there near Bank of America Stadium three o'clock on Thursday,
it's free to show up. There's also another spot next door.

(55:14):
Their sister location, Slate is open. That one's twenty one plus,
So Burnsy, bring your ID because you're still young. But
we saw though in Pasadena, the original the spot, Barney's Beanery,
wasn't quite ready for what was coming. They kind of
they kind of they found Gopher fans found some auxiliary spots.

(55:36):
It sounds like they've done some planning here that All
American Pub is open, but also the sister location right
next door is open as well. So All American Pub
three o'clock on Thursday. Burnsy and I will plan to
be there. I'm sure Grim will be there. I'm sure
everybody else that is coming with us. Burns and I
are both going on Wednesday, so we'll be there the
night before, the day before, the whole bit. And Jim,

(55:56):
maybe we'll FaceTime you for anybody, yeh, send me your
wife's numbers. We can FaceTime her, because I know you
probably don't know how to do that. But we'll miss
you in Charlotte, just like we missed you, and just
like we missed you in New York, just like we
missed you in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
When I go to Citrus Ball or out back, I'll
be there with you boys.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Music City always here, right, music City'd the music city
Last year was Detroit, Christmas too cold? This year it's Charlotte,
better destination. Fifty degrees for temperatures and we still can't
get the chip Lame Bowl.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Are you going to going to Detroit for the possible
number one seed ball between the Lions.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
No, I'll just be getting back in town.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
But what around that is? Huh, holy go.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Yeah, it's great, it's fun. Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun.
All right.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Well, we'll see hopefully Christmas on Thursday. YouTube Chipper Great,
have a great Christmas, Have a great holiday everybody. I
hope you get everything that's on your list. Hope you
survived Christmas Eve. If you have kids that you need
to wrap for, that's a that's a scene Burnssey that
you'll never have to deal with. Thanks everybody for listening.
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