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October 28, 2024 73 mins
Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard are back to review a dominant Homecoming performance by the Gophers in a win over Maryland. Max Brosmer is putting together quite the season, the guys spend a good portion of the show lauding his performance before talking about the running game, the defense and the schedule moving forward. They also discuss the ridiculous James Franklin performance last week during his press conference and touch on other Big Ten games from the weekend. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
A pair and a spare.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Thank you, PJ at a time for another edition of
the Parent of Spare podcast, I'm justin guard from the fan.
We've got Chipskoggins from football across Minnesota, Randy burn Ryan
Burns go for Illustrated dot Com joining me. We are
presented as always by our great friends at Jack's Cafe
Jaxcafe dot com. Thanks to Bill for hooking up another
father and daughter for homecoming tickets on Saturday. It was

(00:26):
a pretty cool to see our guy Thad bring his
daughter and tweet about that over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Great seats for kids.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
We just appreciate Jack's Cafe helping us help you all
that listen make memories here on the Parent of Spare Podcast.
Chip is under the weather today. He can't do it
like he used to, Burnsey. He's been hanging around on
college campuses and in you young people towns like Chicago, Illinois.
He is weathered today. So the mute button is going
to be early and often. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Chip?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I got the cough drop in now I will
I will say this. I went to Chicago with a cold.
I came back with a severe cold.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
A lot of beer games back to back weekends.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't a whole lot of beer games
going on. Although Chicago, I guess, is this technically still
summer summer?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
No, well, i'd argue with the record heat get.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, it felt like summer there. Man, What a glorious
place to be when it's on a weekend there, when
it's sunny out and warm and you're walking around Lincoln
Park that area. Goodness, gracious, yeah, I was. I had
a battle and I was I was hurting this weekend

(01:34):
and it's my birthday today and I'm sick. That's that's
no good.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
So you share a birthday with the Voice of the Golfers,
Mike Grimm Have I always known this?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
We text each other every every year. Happy Birthday. He's
a year older than me, I will say that though
he's got me by a year.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
So when does the aar P card come in the
mail today?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It already came a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
And Chips signed up right away because you wanted to
make sure that hit he'd get all the benefits.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
He would get all the benefits.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Fifty two today, Chipper fifty three. Fifty three. That's right,
because we're all ten years apart, so we all turn Okay, Well,
happy birthday, Chipper, thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Thank everybody. Wish Chip a happy birthday. And I'm sure
your phone is one charge. You got your portable charger
for your Italy trip in six months, so it's all
good with you other than feeling bad.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, we actually put the charter to use in Chicago
just to try it out this weekend. And what an invention.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Man, It just came out last week, so so yeah, welcome.
Well I also tell you I showed my wife a
photo of you and your daughter, and the first thing
she said, and I told guard you this already was boy,
there's no dispute, and that's his daughter. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Do we look alike?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
You look exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, Well she's thriving in Chicago. I'll say that.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Wonderful. Well, where are you going this weekend? Which are
you going to visit this weekend? He's keeping a local here.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That was a that was a run of five weekends
being away from home on the road, and so I'm
excited to I'm not going to Illinois with you guys. Uh,
I'll bet I'll be at the Vikings game Sunday night.
But it'll be nice to uh uh not be on
the road for a weekend, he.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Said, A heck of a five weeks think about London
to LA to then.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
We went Green Bay to London, LA and then Iowa
State last weekend. That was personal. I can't really complain
when it's personal and personal this weekend, so and I tried.
I kept track of the uh. I did watch. I
got through three quarters of the game. When I got
home yesterday. I was not going to watch the fourth
quarter of that beat down, but I tried to follow

(03:47):
along on my phone as I was walking around Chicago.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
And as he's plugged in, I'm sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Sounds like a uh sounded like a glorious day at
Huntinging Bank Stadium.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know how you could ask for anymore. It's
a good transition, I think burns you. You would remember the
Gophers were what four and a half point favorites five
and a half point favorites somewhere in that ballpark. Maryland
was coming off of a victory over usc that they
somehow came back from a two touchdown deficit.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
In the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Another game that USC loses that they somehow had pretty well,
pretty good control over. That's kind of the story of
their season at this point. But the Gophers came out
and Burnsy, I know you were very excited that they
put some points on the board early and often they
started fast, something that you had been mentioning.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Chip.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I went up at halftime and I scared Daniel Howse
first of all, the poor guy. I just went right
up behind him and started talking. He jumped like he'd
seen a ghost. And I said, who is Burnsy mad at?
Because Ryan's always mad at somebody or something at halftime,
He's like screaming at people. He's hate typing on his computer.
But there was nothing for you to be mad about
at halftime, Burnsy, I wouldn't think unless you did find

(04:53):
something to nitpick.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I can always nitpick something, you know, me, Johnny Raincloud
over here, finally are able to come out with a
good first quarter. I'd argue a great first quarter with
twenty one points, a pick six, fourteen offensive points, their
first touchdown in a first quarter, I believe all season. Yep,
It's tough to be especially in what was a coin
flip game, whether you look at the Vegas spread, the metrics,

(05:15):
whatever it may be, that's what you wanted to see
coming off of a bye week where it's not an
off week. Is PJ loved to say endlessly over the
last seven days, it's not an off week. It's bye week.
You're trying to get rested, you're trying to get a
little bit more time to prepare for a Maryland team.
And this was a Maryland team that had been playing
really well offensively, so the way that they were able

(05:36):
to start the game. You're able to get that huge
stop on fourth down, then the offense is able to
go and respond another stop, another touchdown, then you get
the pick six, and you look up at the end
of the first quarter and Maryland looked as some would
say shell shocked, as a terrapin. Might be the chipper.
They were certainly traveled by.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's a great reference and Mike Russell would be happy
about that, you know, watching it back, the thing that
just kind of the thirty thousand view foot view for
me was pretty amazing. When you have a quarterback you
can trust, huh. I mean this team from last year
at this point, this is what I thought we would

(06:18):
see with Calikmnus where the identity changed. It became a
offense that hey, is that your cat or dog? Sy?
This all tail the offense revolving around a quarterback. And
there is no doubt that Max Brozner, in my mind,

(06:39):
has changed PJ. I mean, and I think that last
series in the first half underscored it.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah I can't.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I can't say this for sure, but I'd be willing
to bet what was it a twenty one point lead?
Was it twenty one to three at that point.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Or something around along those lines.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, years past he would have taken a knee and
gone to the halftime. Good about where they're at, I think,
But well, two things played in that Maryland's past defense
is atrocious. Holy cow are they be? There's a reason
why they're the worst, one of the top five worst
pass defense in the college football and it showed. But

(07:17):
it also speaks to PJ. Finally has a quarterback he trusts,
and he said, you know what, good's not good enough.
Let's go get some more points than they did. And
guys made plays. And I just think that Max Brosner
has caused PJ to to change.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
They're up thirty one to ten at that point. Yeah,
when the ensuing kick off the Maryland touchdown went out
of bounds, gave the Gophers of ball at to thirty five,
and next thing you know, they're in cassage field goal
arrange and they're banging through a field goal to make
it thirty four to ten. But yeah, to me, the
story of the whole season is Max Brosmer. It's just
it's the story every week, and I'm trying to like

(07:58):
get people to pause and actually can consider what they're watching.
When you think about and ship, you go further back
than we do when it comes to covering the team
when you think about what is actually happening with Max.
The fact that this has turned into an offense that
can just sling it all over the place and the
quarterback doesn't care who he's throwing to. He's going to
multiple progressions on some of these big, high profile touchdown plays,

(08:20):
including one to Elijah Spencer that Burnsy screenshotted the past,
which was just ridiculous, where I thought he was throwing
it away while I was watching it live on the
sideline and he's just thrown it to a spot where
Spencer's going to go.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Every conversation I have Burnsy. I'm sure you're the same way.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
When you're running around before the games and stuff, people
want to talk about Max and they all say the
same thing.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's a shame that we only have him for one year.
It's a shame that he's only going to be here.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And I say, yeah, that's great, but let's not wish
away to twenty twenty five. You still have him for
four more games, right, and he's playing the position about
as well as you can, about as well as we've
ever seen for a Minnesota quarterback. So it's just a
pleasure to watch the guy go to work because that's
what he's here to do, right He's taking two non
degree seeking classes. He's here to do football, and he's

(09:03):
doing it very very well.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
He is. I mean, in this three game winning streak
that they're on, he's completing seventy five percent of his passes,
nine touchdowns, no turnovers. Which part of why I think
he's changed PJ is what has PJ said for seven
seven years. The ball is the program, and now you've
got a quarterback that you continue to trust that is
not going to put the ball in harms. Way you
watch these games there's maybe one throw a game where

(09:27):
it's that could have been a pick instead of four
or five like we've seen in previous years, and that's
where it's just tough to kind of That's why I
hate comparing quarterbacks and comparing eras because we've seen Gopher
quarterbacks going a stretch like this, like Tanner had a
stretch like this in nineteen Adam Weber had a stretch
like this back in the day. But then you're comparing
an RPO offense where Tanner really never had to get

(09:49):
off the first read because he had two NFL receivers
and Tyler Johnson and Rashod Bateman. Weber was playing, and
you guys will remember better than me. More of like
a West Coast spread type deal, dependent on the year,
dependent on which coordinator Adam Weber had. Yeah, unfortunately every
single year. And now with what Brozmuer and Greg Harbow

(10:10):
are doing, it's a lot. I think it's a lot
more complex, But I also think it speaks to what
do you want to do or what do you want
to see? Coordinators? Do you want to fit the players
to whatever the scheme or the you know, I always
get that this comparison wrong. But I just think it's
about maximizing what Max does well and what is his
number one asset. It's his processing ability, his ability to

(10:32):
go through reads. We've talked about that UCLA touchdown to
Darius Taylor. He's the fifth read on that. He went
all the way right to left, got to the last option.
The Elijah Spencer back at the back of the end
zone throw was ridiculous. He was the last one in
that progression. That's where Elijah talked about with you guards.
He they've run that play in practice, and I believe
he told you he's never gotten the ball once there.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, Chip, I asked him on the field, give me
your perspective of that play, and he had this huge smile, says,
we run it and Max has never thrown it to me.
And then I asked somebody walking up the tunnel. I said,
this is what Elijah said, and this person told me
technically he's an option, but not really. Technically he is,
but you really got to go deep to get to

(11:15):
the Elijah Spencer part of it, which I think speaks
to how good he is. To Burnsy's point at just
going through and knowing where the answers are going. To
be if this is covered and that's covered, here's my
next one. And yeah, I think there was one throw
maybe to Elijah Spencer where there were two terrapins around
him that just got broken up maybe in the first half.
And even that it wasn't like a super threatening defensive play.

(11:37):
It just I think Elijah might even had to play
in the ball. He just doesn't put it in harm's way. Ever,
and that's probably why PJ is fine with him throwing it. However,
many times he's throwing.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
It well that we talked about in the Preseasonship Fleck
came out and said, yes, seventy percent completion percentage, and
we're all thinking to ourselves, in what world there were
only five teams I believe last year in all of
college football that we're doing it well. Max Brosmer, heading
into the last four games of the season is sitting
at sixty nine point five percent completion, which will absolutely

(12:07):
shatter the completion percentage record that Tanners said a couple
of years ago. He's as much as he is a
high end processor, which we all know about, he's got
to be one of the most accurate quarterbacks accuracy where
the Yeah, in a while yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I think his two biggest strengths are his or probably three,
his leadership because everybody loves the guy. His accuracy, but
then his ability to just understand what he's seeing. And
you go back to twenty nineteen in that offense, You're like,
they threw the ball a lot, right, you felt like, yeah,
I was just looking it up while you guys are talking.
They averaged twenty four attempts per game that year, right,

(12:42):
Max Max is averaging thirty one, So he's attempting seven
more passes per game than that twenty nineteen team. So
they're really throwing the ball. I mean, this is this
is radically different than that. I mean, seven more passes
attempts a game is a lot different. And so but
that speaks to his trust and it's not just uh,

(13:02):
you know, check downs or short I mean we're seeing
him throw the ball down the field more. I think
as this season goes on, and and I'm glad Randy,
my colleague Johnson wrote about this. I really feel like
you're seeing a coordinator and quarterback on the same page.
And I thought Harbo, the way the game he called,
he knew he had an inferior secondary. He knew they

(13:23):
were young and not very good. Some of the concepts
that he drew up, the one where Spencer was Spencer
was wide open in the second half a bunch set.
They couldn't have defended that any worse. But he knew
that there might be some communication issues because they were
dealing with some backups in there. I think, and so
I think Harbo deserves a lot of credit too for.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Be careful say that because it is one of them. Well,
that's one of the things I haven't understood it now.
Last year the offense was incredibly inconsistent. I ain't going
to be the one to tell you otherwise, but it was.
It's always blamed the coordinator. Blame the coordinator, even earlier
in the en It's Harbo hasn't been the issue. I
know you, Harbo has been pretty good. It's you look

(14:07):
at the over the course of eight games this seasonship,
when the offense falters, it's because mine it's well, it's
just executing drop, it's drop missed assignments. I don't really
think it's schemes are play calling. Like I remember back
to twenty twenty two with a previous offensive coordinator, and
I remember asking people smarter than me, being like what

(14:30):
do you think and they're like, what, I don't know
what the plan is here with the scheme. I don't
think the scheme has been the issue with Harbo. I
think it's just been execution around him. And that's where
last year the quarterback couldn't execute. And maybe some of
that is on Harbo, but now certainly he went out
and addressed it, goes and gets Brozemer from the portal,
and I think he and Brosmer have a very good

(14:50):
understanding of what each other are trying to do and
to what Randy wrote about. And you know what a
lot of us are saying, like Harbo, especially for the
lowest paid offensive play color in the.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Bay, here we go here salary.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, I don't get started about all that, like Carball
called one of his best games. But I would also
say I just think they executed it, specifically at the quarterback,
at a level that we haven't seen so far, which
credit to them.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well the quarterbacks put them on the money. But I
also think we we always talk about nurture and develop
the passing game. I still think a lot of their
drop issues last couple of years because the passing was
so inconsistent, and guys weren't in a rhythm catching the ball,
and did they have any drop Saturday? Maybe I didn't,

(15:42):
but it felt like guys are more reliable now in
terms of being catching the ball and you're seeing I mean,
Daniel Jackson just got some great hands. I mean, I
got some ridiculous sketches. But but Spencer U your guy
Burns's really I think stepped up and and but even
the you know, the gears capt down the middle to
set up the field goal. I mean, that's the hell

(16:02):
of a catch.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I mean, Darius I now got thirty four receptions, which
is at number one in the Big Ten, number two
in college football.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I think you have to get your receivers in a
rhythm as much as your quarterback in a rhythm catching
the ball. And I think they've done a good job.
So yeah, it's but I mean this is not to
dump on the previous quarterback, but how many times were
guys twisting or bending down or you know, you talk
about a catch radius they needed, you know, the balls

(16:31):
were just all over. Broseman just puts it on the
money where guys can either it's out of harm's way
or he puts it in position where guys can make
it play after they catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I'd also say, like we look at Saturday's games, specifically
nine of thirteen on third down. I mean, that's tremendous.
But I even go back to the first three third
downs of the game. They were all third and longs right,
and they were all converted and oh, by the way,
to three different receivers. And that's where last year's offense
was sitting around thirty percent on third down. This year,
through eight games, you're number four in the Big Ten

(17:02):
at forty seven percent. I just think so much of
it comes down to the way Brosmer's playing and the
way that Harbo continues to tweak the offense to what
the skill sets of the players do. That's what we've
been wanting the offensive coordinator to do, or anybody wants
their offensive coordinator to do. But may right quarterback, and
that's where bober they went out and identified him. I mean,

(17:23):
we've seen so many transfer quarterbacks. I think about Florida
State right now, how much would they want someone like
Max Brosmer. Where would Michigan be if they would have
gone out and got Max Brosmer. So as much as
it is complementing. I think Harbo's play calling. I think
you have to go back to December January and say
they knew it wasn't good enough at quarterback. It was

(17:43):
Harbo the one that wanted to go get Brosmer and
he was dead on the nuts there.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, and it's interesting too that, Yeah, I mean, he
put up ridiculous numbers at New Hampshire and all that,
but for a coach to be able to see that
at that level and feel like, you know, this is
going to translate to the big and even though he's
not facing the competition, whatever he saw, he had a
belief and a confidence in that that would work at

(18:08):
this level. So kudos to him for not saying, yeah,
you know what, what's competition level? You know, guys are
putting the numbers against No, he saw that it was
translatable and they're being rewarded because of that.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Enjoy it, everybody, if you're a Gopher fan, Enjoy it
because this is about as good as it's gotten in
a really long time where you just have complete confidence
in a guy knowing what the hell he's doing on
a week by week basis and doing it really without
a running game, and there's a transition. Years ago it
would be get up twenty one points and in Big

(18:44):
Ten West football style, run the ball forty times, shrink
the game and end up winning twenty four to seven. Right,
how many times have we seen that at Iowa, Wisconsin,
Northwestern Illinois go down the list and PJ tried to
do that in the second quarter.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Maryland did not allow that.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Still, for the life of me and Burnsy and I
talked about this on Gopher Football Sunday, I'll never understand
how late October, after watching however, many games of Gopher tape,
the takeaway for Mike Loxley and his staff going into
Saturday's game was We're not going to let them run
the ball, which was a.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Quote that came out of the head coach's mouth.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I don't understand how that happens, but they that's what
they hung their hat on in the Certainly in the
second quarter when the Gophers did try to establish a
running game didn't work. Darius obviously had the big run
that gets the per carry yardage up there to a
much more respectable number after you take that out. I
think it was about two yards of carry. But I'm
kind of done guys beating my head against the wall

(19:39):
or worrying about it, because I just think it kind
of is what it is at this point, especially if
teams somehow incredulously are loading up and run to stop
the run. I think the new run game is Darius
Taylor and Marcus Major out of the backfield for five
yards a clip, and that's what it's gonna be. And
I'm fine with that because they're moving the ball and they're

(20:00):
up points.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, it's funny. I looked at us checking the box
score as we were walking around Chicago, and I think
they were up twenty eight nothing and had negative eight
yards rushing, which damn near impossible. And it's totally anti
what we've seen from Gophers. But uh, just so many
hits in the backfield when they try to run. It's
crazy lost you know, yardage, and you know, if the

(20:26):
weather turns bad, are you still gonna be able to
throw it. That's the one fear that you have that
you're not able to run int if it's you know,
a bad weather game and you have to. But I
just I just think they're the identity is done a
one eighty. I just think this is who they are Yeah,
you never want to say just completely abandoned the run
because uh, Adrian Peterson used to say this about his

(20:49):
running style, fam and famine, feast. That sort of feels
what the Gophers running game is now, a lot of
fam and famine. Then Darius Taylor pops one or maybe
Major gets one, but it just like a lot of
fam and fam and feast.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
To me, Well, that's where you look at the stats
at the end of the day, and that's where between Taylor,
Marcus Major, and Jordan Nuban they ran the ball twenty
three times for something like four point five yards. Prepare,
it's pretty pretty decent. We'll take that, especially in this offense.
But then you take out the fifty one yard run,
which was well blocked by the offensive line. The other
ninety five percent of runs went for about two yards

(21:23):
to carry. Maryland had nine tackles for loss, and I'd
imagine most of those were on the run plays. So,
for whatever reason, this offensive line struggles to execute consistently
in the run game. But I will give them, as
the kids would say, chip some flowers. They're flowers in
pass protection. For whatever reason, they are a much better
pass protection line than run game. Execution line this year.

(21:46):
Brosmer has only been sacked four times in this three
game winning streak. Was not sacked on Saturday. I will
say there was some pressure around him, but Brosmer didn't
have it immediately in his face, so he was able
to navigate around it. I just think that if you
go into the month of November now and your Harbo
and your offensive line coach Brian Callahan, you have to
continue to try the run game. But I'd be pulling

(22:08):
the plug earlier and earlier. I'd be running it just
enough to throw it. Which is crazy to say about
a Gopher offense from yesteryear going into what is a
very crucial November for them. But I think we've seen
the staff adapt more and more and more, and I
fully believe by the way as GUARDI kind of led
this off with I think PJ got on the headset

(22:29):
when they're up twenty one to nothing there in that
second quarter, and what we're gonna run the football? And
Maryland said, Okay, we're gonna run blitz off the edge constantly,
and then it finally became okay, we're going to try
to pass it again, and they have success doing so.
But the question is going to become. Whether it's this
weekend in Champagne, two weekends in Piscataway, whatever it may be,
there is going to be a game in the next

(22:51):
four I can about guarantee you they're up four in
the fourth quarter and they're going to need to run
clock and they're going to need to extend drives. You'd
hope at some point the running game finds something. It's
just we're running out of time for that to be
the case with this run game.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Anything else offensively, you guys want to discuss before we
take a break and come back and talk about the
defense and everybody's favorite topic from Saturday, how long the
starter's played anything offensively we want to get.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Into Are we good there?

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I think we're good.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
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(24:09):
sixties here again this weekend. So if you're trying to
earn some brownie points after what I assume is either
a pumpkin patch, a petting zoo, whatever it may be,
apple picking with the miss that's where I would go
Jack's Cafe.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Chip so it's kids with the TikTok and that it's
fifty three year old Chipskoggins with the readers and the
paper menu. They can serve anybody. That's what we said.
Atility baby is good for everybody, right.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Chip, Yes, and I was going to get I'm gonna
have to take a rain check tonight. I was going
to go, but I don't want to get anyone there sick.
And you want to be able to enjoy yourself, right,
You don't to be right under the weather in there.
But how about my friend George Yashida from Woodbury sent
us the thing him and his wife there went for
their anniversary dinner. Took a selfie from the parking lot,
which I loved. Keep doing it, keep sending us those pictures.

(24:57):
Appreciate George doing that. Appreciate all our listeners that are
taking our advice. And I know George and other people
have been there many times, but this might just you know,
say hey, let's go back again after listening to those
guys talk about how great Jackson's.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I always tell Bill that the parent of Spare podcast
told you to stop by, and basically the parent of
Spare audience has Gopher football season tickets. Because Bill always says, hey,
let's give these away. Let's get some Parent of Spare
podcast listeners in my seats. They're tremendous, and we always
appreciate people that go to the game, especially if they
bring their kid, maybe a first experience like we just
had over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Take a picture tag us. We love to be involved
in all that.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's a lot of fun and we appreciate Jack's Cafe
taking care of all of you so well. So as
I always say, support those who support all of us,
go to Jackscafe dot com. Chip Burnsey was very bitter
about the defensive effort. I couldn't believe what I was reading.
They make the best quarterback in the Big Ten statistically,
look like go down the list of quarterbacks that we've seen.

(25:55):
I'm not going to name any names or throw any shade,
as the kids would say, but all I read all
week was how good this quarterback from Maryland was? Billy
Edwards Junior. I believe his name is. He leads the
Big Ten in completions and attempts in yardage. He's got
two great wide receivers, and the next thing I know,
he's got two interceptions, both dreadful. He wanted nothing to
do with anything for a while. And I read Burnsy's

(26:15):
five Takeaways a go for Illustrated dot Com and it's like,
if we're up to him, PJ never would have taken
the starters out, he would have made them just keep
going and going and going. So Burnsy, what gives? Why
were you so bitter?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Allowed to score? The other teams are allowed to put
together drives Ryan Burns.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
They certainly are. I tell you this much, and I've
talked about it. I'll go for illustrated, I go for
good on radio, and maybe you guys can help me
try to get my mind around it. It's I'm having
a hard time in determining what quote unquote success looks
like for Corey Heatherman's defensive style versus Joe Rossi's defensive style.
Where Joe Rossi's was very I shouldn't say vanilla because

(26:55):
there was complexities within it. It was very Ben Don't
Break Tracy esque. And that's where Corey Heatherman's style is
the complete opposite. It's helter skelter.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
He's like the middle child Chip.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, you never know what you're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, but the older child. But the middle child is
Corey Heatherman. It's just a Tasmanian devil of good and bad,
but I gotta say mostly good here.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
For the most part.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Recently, they lead the lead the Big Ten and takeaways.
I think they're second nationally in interceptions after a couple
more this weekend. It's just so up or down. It's
very rollercoaster esque. It's either there's gonna be like in
the fourth quarter twelve yards per play against the backup
even when the starters in who cares, or this is

(27:41):
gonna be a takeaway. It's just very boom or bust.
And again I wasn't as dramatic as some of us
want to.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Decide. Go for Illustrated dot Com you can read.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I would just say I'm having and I got to
change my best with an nex time mentality with this,
As some would say, just knowing what six that looks
like in such a health skelter style is going to
lead to more swings and yeah, that's what. Maybe I'm
having a little bit of time.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, let me say this. I I preface this. I
did not watch the fourth quarter. I don't care about
garbage time. Defenses give up a lot of yards and
points in garbage tie. The game was over. I'm sorry,
so I thought, and I didn't read anything anybody wrote.
I was impressed with the defense. I thought John Joyner

(28:31):
was outstanding. I thought Cody Linderbergh was outstanding. They continued
to take create takeaways. I thought they really ran to
the ball and tackled or every time there was a
Maryland guy, you felt like five Gophers were coming in
there to hit him.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I don't care about garbage time. I mean, I'm not gonna,
you know, And so people were mad because they left
the starters in there. I'm not gonna.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
We'll talk about what.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But I just went when it's Harbis's time. I think
it can skew how we think about things. Defenses relaxed.
We see it all time. I thought when the game
was competitive, or when the game was in the first half,
I really thought their defensive line, particularly John Joyner, was
disruptive and Anthony Smith caused the parents turnover. At think

(29:20):
he pushed that guard right back into the quarterback. I
just thought they impacted that quarterback and made him even
when he didn't have pressure. I thought it looked like
he felt the pressure coming and was just kind of
wilder than he had been previously. So I don't know
what happened in the fourth quarter. Maybe that that altered perceptions,
But I just I thought for the first half, when

(29:41):
the game was when the game was you know, competitive
or interesting. I thought the defense was good.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Well that's where its stats can tell whatever story you
wanted to, and that's where no sacks, two tackles for loss,
you would think, boy, it must have been a rough day.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
And then it looked like Jo Joyner against USC correct, right.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, I mean, and that's where then you look at
like the pro football focused stuff. Okay, no sacks, but
they had twenty three pressures, fifteen hurries, eight quarterback hits,
and from the moment that Billy Edwards stepped onto the field,
he's he had pressure in his face, He's getting battered around.
He can never find himself to be comfortable, which for
ninety percent of college quarterbacks, if you can hit them early,

(30:20):
they're going to be off their game. They're not going
to be consistent, They're going to make some air and throws.
And that's where this defensive line was able to do. So.
I'd also say as much as talk as Ethan Robinson
has gotten the season, justin Wally has finally taken that
step forward. We thought he was going to take it
last year.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, and he didn't.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
This year. I believe he is second in all of
college football and passes broken up. You saw him instinctually
make the play on the pick six with the miscommunication there.
I think Justin Wally has finally taken that step forward
and they're going to need him, especially this weekend against
a couple more talented receivers. But Justin Wally has elevated
his game to what we wanted to see, Like wo

(30:59):
when he took you know, this team kind of by
storm as a true freshman back in the day, you
were always thinking yourself, what could he look like by
the time he leaves. Well, he's playing at a really
high level right now, and I hope that it continues
for these next four games because if so, I mean
we're going to be talking about probably an NFL future
for him in terms of draft picks.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, he was I mean, I mean I thought he
was great. I don't know how the grades UH graded
out Bernsey, but I thought Lindenbergh brought a physical inness that.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
He was the top graded guy in Pro Football Focus.
And now he has been in back to back weeks
and Chipper turns out when he doesn't have a gigantic
armbrace on. Yeah, he's the healthiest that he's been.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, it's whatever sport that it.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
May be, whether it's baseball with a guy playing through something,
or now even in football when he's healthy, turns out
forty five is pretty dang good. Eh.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, that's the That's the Cody Lindbergh that I think
we've all been waiting to see. I just thought, just
watching it from a TV copy, I thought he was everywhere,
and I just thought he'd brought that physical style that
that you've been wanting to see from him.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
So you're really that bothered about the twelve yards of
play against the bat the second stringers in the fourth quarter, Burnsy,
You've brought it up like nineteen times.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
As much as I'm upset about kind of the way
that it went, I'm I don't understand why PJ left
him in the game because he got annoyed.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
He was like you, he got totally sideways. I talked
about it on the radio. He had Cody, speaking of Lindenberg,
grab the whole defense and basically say we got to finish.
You know, he's trying to do the culture message stuff,
which I get, which I understand, But this wasn't Illinois
last year.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Sorry, it just wasn't.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, he kept mentioning that, and I'm thinking to myself,
that was like a ten point game last year. You're
up thirty something points in the fourth quarter. Why are
we thinking about Illinois and that now Northwestern?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
A year ago it was more we're still up in
the teens.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
But this game, you're up thirty in the fourth quarter.
There is no comparison teens versus up thirty. That's where
Aiden Gooseby's getting hurt.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Josh Way.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Then they called the time out and then he finally
pulls him. I thought that whole I'm telling I was
looking at Greeter there and we were both going, are
they why are they still in? Yeah, your heart's clearly
not in which to Chips point, I don't blame him
with garbage time. You're up twenty eight points when what
world is the risk worth the reward there? I still
don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, No, it was that he reverted because a few
months ago he played a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Remember early on he played Drake Lindsay a bunch.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
He played a lot of defensive guys, and they mixed
in a couple of backups defensively before they took everybody out.
But it was obvious that drive that you were talking
about really bothered him because I don't think he felt
they had the right intensity. But also like you're dealing
with a lot of these guys have been around a while,
so it's not like you really need to send the
message there.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Again, it's his team. He can do what he wants
to do.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
But I think they they played with fire there for sure,
But it definitely was a mentality thing of we just
let them march down the field and that can't happen.
But it's also like, yeah, but you both raced them
all day and you've played great, Like it's okay.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I get you're fighting against human nature.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Coaches can never let their guard down, but I would
have found a different way to do it there because
a couple of important players got dinged up and they
did not need to. But I thought to start this
whole thing at the beginning. I mean, the defense helped
them put the game away in the first half. I
mean the defense played, forcing the turnovers and obviously scoring
on defense and really set the tone on that fourth

(34:23):
and one to stop it right away. That really set
everything in a positive direction for the golfers.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
And I just thought they played really well.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Well It's funny you mentioned that first quarter. In those plays,
it's all guys that were banged up that were making
those plays. You look at the fourth down stop, it's
Maverick Bereanowski returning. He's the one that takes the guards away,
which allows carry Brown who returns to make the stop.
On the second drive, it gets backed up because who
Jalen Logan reading who had been banged up, hadn't been
playing a lot. He forces a hole, puts Maryland back.

(34:56):
It turns out when they get healthy, they're actually a
pretty decent team, which, by the way, is why I
was so upset about Fleckleigan because they're so thin at
so many spots like yeah, if Cody Lindenberg would have
gotten seriously hurt, their linebacker would not be great, or
Devin Eastern or Jayln Logan. They're very top heavy defensively,

(35:16):
which is part of why I didn't understand it that
they were keeping them in. But yes, it was getting
healthy there. And for as much as we talk about
Koy Parritch, by the way, mm hmm, that young safety
corps of Carrie Brown and Aiden Gooseby and Perris is
going to be something to realize some dudes. Yeah, all
under classmen.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, and that was everything as much as their line
played well, I thought the safeties came up and really
Cooy had a tackle for lost carry, Brown had two
fourth down stops. Right, those guys played really well. And
when when you they're marrying rush and coverage, and you
hear it all the time, when you get that rush,

(35:56):
you're you're gonna have some opportunities to make some plays
on the back end. And they still relead college football
and interception I think they probably do after that. I mean,
and in their pass defenses you know, been highly ranked.
It's because they're getting pressure. And you talked about Corey
Heathman's style. It is frenatik. And yes, you may give

(36:16):
up some plays, but if it's the risk reward and
your reward is getting some takeaways and turnovers, man, I'd
take that.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Hey Burns Ey is Coy Parrish in line for all
Big ten at this point, and he's got to be
right tough to.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
I mean, he now leads the Big Ten. He's number
one with interceptions. And the crazy part is, and I
can look it up, well you talk, I think he's
probably only played two hundred defensive snaps this season.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Right, it's really only been the last three or four weeks, right.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Had one hundred and eighty one defensive snaps.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And you know how these things.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
We vote on these things because there's eighteen teams now, well,
stats and what you see, and if you're watching Big
Ten Final Drive ever week, you've seen koy Perrich like
either end a game or change a game. And his
return the other day, you know, he catches it and
immediately spins out. I mean that if one of the
three of us catch that ball, we're getting tackled at
the spot. In most Division one safeties are probably gonna.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Is more athletic than you give him credit for. You've
seen him navigating the streets of Chicago this.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I believe that. I definitely believe that.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
But the fact that he turned that into like a
forty plus yard return and it just didn't even it
doesn't even phase you at this point, Like people see that,
the people that vote on these and I'm sure the
coaches see it too.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
So he's going to be I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I mean, we'll have to look and see who the
other safeties are, but he's got to be in the
mix at this point. If he just kind of even
if the season stopped today and he ended with five picks,
I would imagine he's going to be in that position,
which is pretty crazy, man, pretty heavy stuff. But I
think it's all earned.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah, there's I mean, you could put Koy Parrots on
that list. I put John Joyner justin Walley Cody Lennenberg.
But yeah, the way he's been able to come in
and again, even with that interception he had on Saturday,
he owes to Chip's point, Anthony Smith a lot of
credit there because he gets the guard knocked back into
him and he just happens to be waiting there. But

(38:17):
right spot, right time. How many times have we said
that over the years with guys like Antoine Winfield, they're
Tyler Newman. They just know where to be and then
they know how to attack the ball and make a
play on the ball.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's it. Yeah, I mean to guard you the point,
I mean not only is he right spot, but to
have the mindset I'm gonna do something with this, And
I mean, you're right, he was spinning as his feet
hit the ground. He's already pure wetting to get out
of that tackle, and he's looking up field and figuring
out his blockers, and anytime, whether it's a punt return
or interception, he's thinking end zone. He's trying to figure

(38:51):
out the way to get there. And that's just there's
just some guys just have that playmaking instinct that that
knack for, you know, and I think he did that
in high school and he's doing it now and he's
going to score this year. There's no doubt in my mind,
either part return or interception turn, he's gonna or Bernsey
to see this, right, he played one snap on offense,

(39:13):
maybe one's coming.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
There he did, and that was you know, it's the
first play after the interception. Actually is they went to
a two back look with Darius Taylor and Koy Parritch there,
so he has now.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Play play What was the play? What happened?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
He ended up going? I think he and Darius both
went out in pass routes, and yeah, they're setting up
for something maybe or at least at the very least
with that kind of stuff and the amount of questions,
by the way, I've also gotten this week since that
play of well, what will happen next year when Drake
Lindsay and Cooy Parrots are on the field, at the
same time, will they have to announce their numbers? I

(39:49):
love that everybody is now already eleven months ahead of time.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, we love the future there, and we need to
we need to keep our feet where they are.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
That's what I was like. I got to get to November,
I got to get through portal season. And I'm not
saying there's anything either one of those two guys, but
it's like, well, who's going to change their number? Guys.
I love the enthusiasm, gals. I love the enthusiasm of
what you're you're trying to already pontificate on to steal
one of guards these guys words there, Yeah, it's vernacular.

(40:18):
But again one snap, we'll see if they end up
coming back to it. But yes, now you can say
Coy Parrits has played offense, defense and special teams.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Well, first of all, sorry, Drake Lindsay, is gonna have
to be you changing the number because Coy Parrits has
already sold like one thousands, number three jerseys, so it's
gonna have to be Drake Lindsay. So that's gonna be
an uncomfortable conversation. And this shows you what a terrible
sideline reporter I am. I didn't realize he was out there.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I didn't realize it live either.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
No nobody did, but I really but he walked by
me after that play, and I'm like, what was now?
It's on you actually yeah, because I'm like, did he
get hurt? Did he have to run up into the tunnel?
Did he go to the bathroom after that? I don't know,
because it's just I wasn't thinking and I don't know
what I was doing after the interception, if I was
going to check something else. But he kind of walked

(41:03):
by me and he was just kind of walking a
little slow, and I'm like, well, that's weird. He wasn't
in the tent. Was he just talking to somebody down there?
Because Coyle do that too. He was talking to some
like six year olds behind Section one forty one at
one point during the game that it just wanted to
say hi to him. But I do want to give
some people some peace of mind, because everybody's always worried.
I don't think we were worried as much about Coy

(41:25):
leaving as we were Darius a year ago. Burnsye, your
message board might go someplace different. But when I left
the stadium, and by the way, because it was such
a boat race. Leaving Huntington Bank was such a dream
on Saturday because everybody was already gone. Students were gone
at halftime. Everybody else went to I don't know if
they went to the Wolves game later that night, and
they wanted to make sure they got to Target Center,

(41:46):
so there wasn't that usual University Avenue or four street traffic.
And I walked around to get to my car and
I saw a pack of like I want to say,
thirty people, most of them wearing number three paratures that
we're just hanging out, and then Koy was obviously there.
It was just, you know, basically the whole town of Esco,

(42:06):
including the bad moms, which we're learning about. Like that's
the vibe, that's the bit, that's that's why you come here,
That's why Cooy is here. I think in a big
city so that I don't worry about it as much,
because that ain't They aren't all going to Columbus, They're
not all going to Eugene. Like that's that's something that
you can't put a price on, in my opinion, and
I do think that.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Matters to them.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I think it anyway, And just on that point too,
and maybe I'm wrong on this. I think it's different
for outstate kids. Yeah, you know, like at Isaac Osama,
this is going.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Away for school, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Whereas kids in the cities might say, I really want
to go away to school. I mean for them, this
is going away from school and having their parents be
able to drive two hours down thirty five to get
to a game versus you know, having to make a
couple of connections and all that. I think that matters.
I think for those having visited both those families, I
think there's a lot of family members that are in

(43:04):
both their families, both Cooy's and Isaac's, that went to
all their high school games. And it's a big thing
that you know, the support network, so having all those
people be able to come. But I just think for
outstate kids, maybe it's different than what kids in the metro.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Field or even heard Coy this this morning with Pa
on what was the station that Pa has a show.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
On guard that's Kfan FM one hundred point three, also
available everywhere you want to listen on the free iHeartRadio app,
and we do podcasts. I don't know if people understand
we do podcasts like it's some new invention ten years ago.
We've been doing podcasts since two thousand and six, in
case anybody wanted to know. But yeah, that's KFN, home
of the Gophers. So let's go for today on the
fan Dragon, Kassich was with the morning show, Koy was

(43:48):
with PA. PJ made his weekly appearance. So I'm sure
your message boards will appreciate that, Burnssey, I'm sure there'll
be a nice glowing KFA and post right there.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Not that I'm bitter about it, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
What's more better you right now or the I pas
that you and Chip will be sipping on here in
the evenings this week? Me? Yeah, but even as.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Great a backstory there as that, I don't know, but
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah. But with Koy, I mean, he'd even talked about
with PA this morning, just the ability to come to Minnesota,
which I think is going away, but he talked about
how Minnesota is the safety you for him. He's seen
what Nuban and Wentfield have been drafted, Jordan, How'd have
been drafted? That was pushed to him quite a bit,
or even the opportunities that he's now able to get
with being a Minnesota guy. I think they revealed this

(44:31):
morning that he's going to have something with Gushers coming out,
just like with Ibrahim had And again I really don't
worry about him, and I understand that you, me and
Chip are all going to get the tweets and the
emails about you know, Darius leave and Cooy leaving. Well.
I'd also say, Guardsy, Dinky Town athletes announced a million

(44:52):
dollar match campaign.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
What a transition, Ryan.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I would say, We've all heard how come how come
none of these local companies stepp up. Well, you finally
get a local company to put their money where their
mouth is, they get a million dollar match. I mean
that's the biggest we've seen. So if fans are thinking
to themselves, well, does my five dollars, fifty dollars, whatever
you can give going to go somewhere. If you want

(45:16):
to show the other big local companies that they should
pair up with the Gophers, this has to go as
a success. And I know that from talking with Derek
Burns here just yesterday. Every little dollar counts. Guardsy.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, I'm glad you put that in. I was gonna
as well that this I've talked about pausing and appreciating
the moment with Brozmer. I think we need to, you know,
people need to understand this is a big deal for
Dinkytown athletes as they've kind of, you know, gone along
and probably slower than some coaches would like. Right, every
coach wants to go a million miles an hour, and

(45:48):
the rules are always changing, and as we all know,
the University of Minnesota goes at it's own speed sometimes.
Thank you Clem Haskins for all of that going back
to nineteen ninety seven. So but this is a huge deal.
This to me is a massive, massive deal. Credit to
NEPSIS for jumping in, Credit to Derek and Robert and
everybody there. And now you have an opportunity just to

(46:09):
you know, literally double whatever donation you want to make.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
It's it feels weird in twenty twenty four to say
we're responsible for this as college football fans. But that
ain't changing at least for now. It's not slowing down.
And this is a great get and a great investment
by this this Bloomington based company with a Gopher grad
that started it. And I think we need to give
credit where credits due here and try to pump this

(46:32):
thing up, because this is this is a big deal.
We saw how Nil helped them the last couple of years,
including with your starting quarterback, including with Darius Taylor, including
with the.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Defensive guys that they brought in. It does matter.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
And to get you know, be competitive, not just you know,
writing huge checks and you know, outbidding people, but getting
in the ballpark. That's what we've always talked about with Minnesota,
whether it's facilities or salary pools, Burnsey which you're always
obsessed with. But I understand why, like you want, you do,
you need to be competitive. You don't have to be
the biggest, you don't have to be the best, but
you do have to be in the ballpark. And I

(47:05):
think Dinky Town Athletes has done a good job of
getting in the ballpark, and now they're trying to grow
the ballpark, make it a little bit bigger even for them.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
So I think this is just a huge deal all around.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Well, if you started the premise, uh, there's never enough,
right for anyone. I don't care if you'rre Alabama who
there's never enough. But this goes along to me of
changing narratives, much like changing the narratives about the Gophers
don't travel well when NIL came along, which has changed.

(47:36):
When nil came along, all we heard and you guys
heard it too. I heard is never gonna be able
compete cause they don't have the NIL. That's just Playton
blatantly wrong. I mean, it's just actually wrong. Now they
had to make up some ground and Robert and Derek
did Yeoman's work to get Dinky Town athletes to the
place it is now where they are competitive, and it's

(47:58):
they were able to keep Darius and all the guys
can't last off season, and I can't imagine the work
they're doing to get KOI different sponsorships in this million
dollar match with this company. The narratives changed. I mean,
this is not again there's never enough and you're never
in a good spot. You always got to keep pushing
to get more. But this is not the albatross that

(48:22):
the narrative, the perception is with Gophers or other I mean,
they're competitive with other teams and they're doing good work
on behalf of their athletes.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Are they ever going to be? Ohio State whose athletic
director comes out and says, twenty million is what we're
spending in nil. No, absolutely not, but you don't have
to be. Yeah, and as PG loves to say, comparison
and steal your joy in that aspect. But the way
that they have built this thing from the ground up,
and from what I understand, they're up year over year
even with you know, some of the struggles in September,

(48:51):
they've now capitalized I think on this three game winning
streak and we'll see what happens here in the month
of November. But they have a lot of needs to
address in the poor in the offseason. I mean, you
got to go out and get a couple of receivers.
Without Daniel Jackson and Elijah Spencer next year, you lose
three starters on the on the offensive line, you lose
both of your defensive ends, you lose both your corners.

(49:12):
And let me tell you, as someone who lives breathed
and sleeps recruiting in the portal every day of their life,
that costs a little bit of money and every little
bit helps. I think that's what Derek Burns talked about
with me last night. I go for good Iron Radio
is if you've been looking for an opportunity to get
the most bang for your buck, whether it's a dollar,
five dollars, whatever you can give. Showing that Nepsis in

(49:35):
this million dollar match goes well also just goes a
long way for Dickeytown athletes to then go to whatever
XYZ local company and say, look at the success that
we had here, team up with us. So we'll see
how it goes. But it's a great job I think
by the folks at DTA to be able to get
that done. Biggest match campaign they've ever had.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome, and so I'm trying. We're
trying to highlight it on any any way that we
possibly can. Anything else go for related. We want to
get to anything big ten related real quick that we
want to get to that we saw over the weekend
that peaked our interest. Illinois the opponent this weekend. We
should probably spend a minute or two on them. I
was stunned. I guess I need to stay up and
watch Oregon play more. I know I watched them against

(50:16):
Ohio State, but I thought the twenty ish point spread
was a little ridiculous, just because of the respect.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I have for Beilama in Illinois. I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
That didn't appear to be very close out there in
the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I watched a little that at a sports bar, and
they have some speed Oregon and they're just relatebly. They
just keep coming at you. And Illinois made a couple
of mistakes and next thing you know, boom, games out
of control. I mean, they're just.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
There's still oiled machine. There are a jitimate number one
team in the country. There are some teams I think
in the top five that I think you can poke
holes in. I don't think you can poke a hole
in Oregon right now, which is why they're up thirty
five to three. I also think on the flip side,
that's two very emotional type of games that Illinois was
coming off of. You can say what you are about Purdue,
but the way that Purdue stormed back to them source overtime,

(51:09):
that's a crazy emotional game. And then they're able to
beat Michigan wearing those uniforms, the one hundred yeared bit
and then you got to travel out on the West
coast to go play the number one team in the country.
I don't always look I'm the King and Captain of
the narrative Street and I get my episode next week,
and I can't wait. But I do think when you're
talking about teenagers or just people in their early twenties,

(51:32):
that stuff matters, that big emotional letdown having to go
all the way out and then you get boat raced
in the first half. They are injured now a little bit.
And the nice part is Brett Bielima gives updates throughout
the week about injuries, so we'll be able to keep
an eye on that. But we talked about last week
as a coin flip game. This is another coin flip game,

(51:53):
and this spread reflects. So Illinois opened, I believe, is
a two point favorite. Now it's swung to Minnesota to two.
You look at the advanced anywhere between forty and sixty
percent wherever you're going. But Chip, you know, like I do,
Brett Bielima has the Gophers number has forever. He is
ten and oh and I know that Fleck talked about
it after the game two guards em he hasn't forgotten

(52:16):
the way that they lost in dramatic fashion last year
to that Illinois team. Yeah, there was ever a time
to get off the schneid, This would be the time
when you're on a three game, three game heater.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, because there have been Gopher teams. I've felt seasons
where I felt like they were the superior team and
Bilam had just found a way to either there or here,
came in to win.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
His first year was the most egregious, and that it
was fourteen to six and that was a bad team
and that was not good.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
But go ahead check.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
But yeah, so there have been years where you just
felt like Gophers were the better team and found a
way to lose it or being them have found a
way to win, however you want to look at it. So, yeah,
this is uh. I would think the way they're playing
with the confidence, you know, three wins in a row
and quarterback playing the way he is, you know, you

(53:08):
should go into a confident you know, but you have
to find it. Until you do it, you have to
find a way to beat a belam a team.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
That's where I felt like the last couple of years.
Maybe again, there's not a coaching staff I think that
has more respect for me that isn't within the upper
echelon of the pay scale more than Illinois. I think
they maximize the most of the talent they always have,
especially with Bilma, and I think you've seen that come
to fruition whether to your point in that twenty twenty

(53:34):
one game where I don't think they had any business
beating Minnesota with that roster. I think they just out
schemed and executed them, and then even down the stretch
and that final drive, they shouldn't have won that game.
And so it comes out to Heatherman and Harbor and
need to have really good game plans going in because
we even saw I think at twenty twenty two Guardsian Champagne.

(53:54):
They came out flying and that one from what I remember,
and Chase Brown was incredible, which is why you're scoring
touchdowns in the NFL now. But this is not a gimme.
I know that Illinois is coming off a boat race,
but if we've learned anything over a time, do not
sleep on Brett Bielama teams. There's a reason they're ranked
still the number twenty four team in the country.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Right, Yeah, I'm so so the money is swung to
the Golphers, is what you're telling me, Burnsy.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
It went from Illinois minus two to now Minnesota minus two. Again,
I think some of that's injury related, and we'll get
more clarity from Bilma throughout the week, But this is
going to be a very good game between a six
and two ranked Illinois team and a find This is.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
A nice win.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Well, and the Golphers are in the top half of
the Big Ten right now, and that might people might go, oh,
that's great.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
It's like, look around in the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
There's fifty ten like if top half is good, like
top half is, and to stay there, they're going to
have to keep winning because there's there's been this glut
of teams that have been four and three, three and four.
What do you say last week, Burnsy, wasn't it like
nine or ten teams that were four and three and
three and four. We always talk about the margin for

(54:59):
airon college it's only getting smaller with nil on the
transfer portal. It's literally it is as much as we've
seen even at the top end a week to week proposition,
and you just got to keep stacking them up and
see where you go. But this is one, as you
looked at the beginning of the season, coin flip game
for sure, but also one it's like, I wouldn't have
picked the Gophers to win this game in the in
the preseason. I just if I was going down the

(55:21):
list now we've seen a couple earlier games. I wouldn't
have that. Maybe they probably should have, Like they probably
should have beaten Michigan, right if they don't give them
fourteen points, maybe they do. But this is a you know,
this is a huge game. This is a huge game,
not just for the Beatleman narrative, but just to keep
the vibes going on how you're feeling. Any go to Rutgers,
who's not playing well that I'm guessing they're going to
be favored in that game. So you've got an opportunity

(55:45):
here to really put a good stamp on this season.
After a month ago people were kind of wondering which
way was this thing going to go.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
You have an opportunity to be four and oh in
your next four be an opportunity to be owned four.
Like I understand that Fleck doesn't believe in momentum, and
they're three and oh. In their last three they could
have easily lost at least the USC and the UCLA game.
They got off to a quick start and put Maryland
away early. But every one of these games coming up.
Because I'm not the biggest Penn State guy in the world,

(56:15):
I understand that even with a backup quarterback in Madison.
Down ten to seven at halftime, they were able to
show it. Now Penn State is going to be on
their fifth consecutive game once they play the Gophers, who
they get a bye week to prepare. But you are
liable to lose any of these games. You're also liable
to win any of them. It's whatever team shows up.
If the Maryland version that we saw the Gophers last

(56:36):
week shows up for the next four weeks, there's going
to be a lot of excited Gopher fans at the
end of the season, and I get it. But if
the one that shows up against North Carolina or Iowa
shows up, there's going to be another zero to four
in November like we saw last year. So that's the
beauty of this college sports thing.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Guard tune in.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Any gay Yeah team is an accurate representation of that.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Let's spin around here quickly with just a couple of
a couple of things from the Big Ten and the
border schools, because we've got a lot of people that
listen from the border schools that are here in Minneapolis.
Iowa puts the backup quarterback in Brendan Sullivan, and my
favorite play is he passed it to somebody in the flat,
I don't remember who it was, and then sprinted upfield

(57:21):
in Brett Favre like fashion to block for him. Do
you think he was ready for his moment? You think
he was ready to play after sitting behind Kate mc namara,
former Northwestern quarterback, fits his kid is a preferred walk
on Burns. He tells me commit for next year. So
Pat Fitzgerald was in the tunnel. Nice moment between the
Fitzgerald family and Sullivan. But it'll be interesting to see

(57:41):
what they do because, as we've talked about, Kirk Farens
is loath to make a change. He's glacial, glacial speed
sometimes and probably to a fault. But Sullivan came in
and sparked these guys pretty well.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Burnsy.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
We're talking about an Iowa offense that has scored forty
points in two of their last three games.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
And you know who I saw at the elevator bank
on Saturday. Oh boy, As I was walking out back
on the field, the one of the quality control analysts
for the Maryland Terrapins was getting on the elevator to
go back up in the press box. Brian Farrens. Oh boy,
he missed the first elevator. There was a little bit
of a mad scramble. The Maryland coaches got separated, and

(58:21):
so I walked down, walked right out, and I'm like,
how do I know?

Speaker 1 (58:24):
That's Brian Ferrett say.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I kind of wanted to talk to him and say,
I don't think it was all your fault, Brian. I
defended you on the Parent of Spare podcast Randy Burn
from Sports Byline Upstairs, he trashed you, but I defended
you anyway.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yeah, they're they're moving the ball and scoring points.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Well, they got an opportunity to go nine to three here.
You look at their November schedule, their home this weekend
against Wisconsin on the road, against UCLA on the road,
against Maryland, and they faced Nebraska. Yeah that's another team
where that's the beauty of the Big Ten. Now, outside
of like the top four teams who are all going
to be in college football playoff discussion, teams five through

(59:01):
eighteen any given Saturday, one shock me at all. So
that's the beauty of it. But that offensive line continues
to homme. Caleb Johnson is going to be cashing NFL
tax here very very soon. But they've got an opportunity
Tim Lester does to build something around Brendan Sullivan here,
now that he's made the switch, because Brendan Sullivan could come,
is I believe twenty twenty five eligibility right? So let's

(59:23):
see if Tim Lester and more importantly, Kirk Farren sticked
to this switch, Chip.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I would just watching Kate McNamara, I didn't see it.
I don't know what the fascination was. And I know
he got injured. I assure you want to see, if
you know, give him a fair chance to it. But
when you watch him, I just it didn't. I would

(59:49):
have made the change probably, And I know Kirk, you
know you have to manage your locker room and personalities
and your loyal and all that. But I would be
stunned if they went back right, yes, because you know
what you're getting. I mean there's I think you have
to roll with sulivancy if that spark continues, obviously have
a dynamic tailback. I just think, as we saw here,

(01:00:13):
he's a difference maker. But I just I was never
really high on Macnumerica to begin with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
No, and it sets the table nicely for Sullivan to
get some more run burns you mentioned he's twenty twenty
five eligible. He can go right into the Pat Fitzgerald
era of Iowa football next year when Kirk Farren steps
down and fitz fitz takes over the program. He loved
beating more than anybody because they ended his college career and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Luke Ber with this conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
That's why I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Not the most outrageous thing I've ever heard, by No,
not the most outrageous thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
So I'm I'm gonna need to be proven wrong all
we'll find out. I'm gonna need to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Proven wrong on that. So we'll see Wisconsin hung for
a half. And I looked up at the scoreboard. I
don't remember when I got okay, great here it is
Camp Randall magic. It's gonna happen. I'm gonna have to
hear it from my Wisconsin relatives. Jump Around's gonna get
played all over the place. And Penn State, like they've
done a couple of times this year, Right have played
really good second halves and essentially ended that game pretty quickly.

(01:01:16):
And they had to pick six in the mix as well,
and even with the backup quarterback, went into Camp Randall
and got the victory, and Wisconsin is a continues to
search for kind of a signature moment of their season.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah, backup quarterback went in there. I saw a little
bit of that second half. Penn State's good defensively there,
they were a lot one of the yeah they're they're, they're.
Their front just overwhelmed the Badgers. I mean, they couldn't
do anything. I thought Penn State's defense really stood out.

(01:01:49):
You know. Obviously I don't know what the situation was
at quarterback with him and how long that's going to be,
but their defense basically dictated that game.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
The seconds fast because they were white hot coming in.
They were playing well defensively in that first half against
Drew Aller, he gets knocked out, the backup goes in.
So I don't know if the change just threw them
off their game, but you allowed twenty one points in
the second half. Braidon Locke makes a horrible decision. It's
a pick six, right, inconsistent quarterback play there. From talking

(01:02:19):
with some people in Wisconsin, it seems like the vibe
I'm getting from them is when is that signature Luke
Fickle win coming right? Because they can beat up on
the lower class of the Big ten, and that's what
they had done coming into this game. But I think
it's a huge game for Fickle this weekend against kirk Ferns.
I think both fan bases, they obviously don't like each other,

(01:02:40):
but I think Fickle needs this game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Pretty game at Kinnick by the way, pack a lunch.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's it's going to be
a difficult game for them. But I just Braiden Lock
to me is I know it was the one A,
one B thing, and he's looked pretty decent against the
lower class, but then he steps up in competition and
from talking if you're a Sunday Morning producer guards e.
I mean, he was as down in the dumps as

(01:03:04):
you could possibly be about a guy like that. He
was trying to talk up Alex Hornerbrook to me, which
I said, please.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
You go through the line of quarterbacks from John Stockough
to Alex Hornetbrook to Scott Tolzene.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
My Wisconsin quarterback knowledge is way deeper than I even remembered.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I know that doesn't even count Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
And that's that's why I mean to bring it back
to the Gophers and this is not you know anything,
stop the news. Quarterback play, I mean, a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Better quarterback than most of the teams are going to
be playing here, the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
You look at Iowa, Wisconsin, and so much of what's
going on there starts at quarterback and their struggles and
their inability to have any consistency or get that singer
at your win. Gophers go out and they pick the
right quarterback and all of a sudden, you know, they
beat usc they won three in a row. They're impressive.
Way they're throwing a game, it's so much. I mean,
it's not you know again, it's not anything, no great mystery,

(01:04:04):
but finding the right guy to lead your program solves
a lot of problems.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Well, it's even for Wisconsin. Now that's where everybody, I mean,
last week it was, well, does Wisconsin potentially have a
shot to go? You know, ten and two, nine and three.
Now everybody's like, is Wisconsin gonna get to six?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
With that schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Their schedule this weekend in Kinnick, then they have to
host organ at home off of bye week, and then
they have to travel to Nebraska before they play in
Minnesota in a short week like That's why I would
just always say, you got to take a week by
week on this thing. I know you and me and Chip,
we all try to prognosticate win totals and YadA YadA.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Not me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I'm not crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Yeah, it's every single week is so different with these teams.
It's just eighteen to twenty three year olds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
You never know what you're gonna get. And that's where
even with this Gopher team, we're five and three right now,
they could be five and seven, they could be nine
and three. We're gonna find out. But that's where you
just got to take a week by week at this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Lastly, real quick here, because we did this, we actually
had a group chat. We actually said we need to
prepare something for the podcast. We've gone over an hour,
but I do want to get to this and we
just ended with Wisconsin and Penn State James Franklin. In
his press conference after the game at Camp Randall apologized
for his behavior on Wednesday with the Penn State media
for really just shrinking in the moment that didn't need

(01:05:25):
to be that big or even that controversial, but to
catch people up. A couple former Nitney Lyons players were
charged with rape from something that happened this past summer.
I don't need to give you all the details on
at Jamil Lyons Is nineteen kve On keys Is nineteen,
both charged with felony rape, and that all went down
this past week. It happened on Wednesday, and college coaches

(01:05:48):
don't like to talk about controversial things like this, especially
when it involves people that were affiliate with the program.
But unfortunately, you're not coaching at Esco High School. You're
coaching at Penn State, a pretty you know, pretty big
spot that with that comes big responsibility. And people have
probably seen the video, but they tried to come out
first with a university spokesperson and read a statement.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
James Franklin was like hiding somewhere. I don't know where.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
He was at, right behind the backdrop, behind the backdrop,
and they basically said we're going to keep all questions
to football, which is not how this works, and they
don't we don't need to spend ten minutes on it.
But so then James Franklin comes up. Somebody asked the question,
I think it was along the lines you guys can
correct me of when did you first know that this
was an issue, and he just walks away, like I'll
do it right now on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
He just left here. I am, I'm James Franklin.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
My guards, I'm James Franklin. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Here he just petulantly walks away.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
And you hear the PR people, including one who I
know has been there forever. This isn't like a twenty
two year old public relations person, and they're basically saying, guys,
we already said we're not commenting on it. The university
has the statement and that's what we're gonna do. And
Franklin's basically standing there like you guys are the jackass
is not me and I honestly, I don't know if

(01:07:03):
they ever got to Wisconsin questions, I would have walked
out and left if I was one I was asked
on because you just you don't have to spend Here's
all you have to say. The university put out a statement,
it's a it's a tough situation. There's a lot of
legal things going. That's all. I'm going to have to
be able to add to it. Done, that's it. But
you can't not say anything. You just can't. I'm sorry,

(01:07:24):
and he apologized camp Randall, but then didn't really elaborate,
just said I gotta be better. We're all trying to
get better. Me included blah blah blah blah blah. I'm
a James Franklin guy. I love the fact a couple
of weeks ago that his players were trying to plant
the flag at USC and he went over and stopped them.
I like, so, I'm not a James Franklin basher consistently,
but this was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
He was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Well, it is a terrible look. And guess what, you're
being paid millions of dollars. You're the face of that program.
Some ways, you're the face of the university, right and
something something bad happened in your program. Sorry, you're gonna
get asked about it, and having someone write a prepared
statement is not going to cover it. You're gonna have
to again. Yeah, and then it's just like walk off

(01:08:09):
and and you know, and then no, it's a terrible look.
And guess what, You're gonna get asked questions. And I
wouldn't ask the football question either. I mean, that was
not the that was not the setting for a football
question when that came out that day. And so I
appreciate that he recognized that he made a mistake and said,
you know, he apologized for doing that, but it should

(01:08:30):
have never come to that again. He should have done
exactly what you said, or could have done exactly what
you said and said, you know what, addressed it and
however way you want to address it would by saying,
I'm you know, legally I can't talk about this, so
you know, but to just walk off like a petulant
you know, coach, who how dare you ask me a
question this serious? Hey, you're in that position you have to. Unfortunately,

(01:08:57):
there are some times when there are some questions you
may not want to ask, but you have to deal
with them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
I mean, he's the one who recruited the players. He's
also the one that makes I think somewhere on nine
million dollars a year, as there's a certain college football
coach in town, said one he took the job. Some
of us got to, what is it eat?

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Cover eat difficult, difficult conversations for breakfast.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
That's what you're paid to do. That's why you're paid
so high. And as much as the DV was even
Franklin I was when I sent that over to you, guys.
I was almost as as upset with the the communications
staff just acting also like the media was just a
bunch of jackasses. Yeah, and what did you think they
were going to ask? We have an obligation to ask
about that. All you would have had to do, James

(01:09:37):
Franklin is say fifteen seconds of I'm not going to
talk to your point guards and then okay, then you
addressed it. But the fact that somebody'd ask you a
question and then you roll your eyes go back around.
The SID people got to come out and then read
off another statement like both Franklin and the media relations
people could have handled that so much better.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
But I'll give the media relations people a break in
this regard is they are you know, Franklin has more
power than they do, and which to me is always
stupid because as I've talked about with a lot of
you know people, not just at the U but everywhere,
what I always say is, you guys are going to
be here after the coach.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
We're going to be here after the coach.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Like PJ talks about it all the time, they had
seven coaches in fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
It is like, yeah, the coach has power, but you
also have to be able to tell the coach, look,
we got to address it. And I'm just I just
remembered an example off the top of my head, because
as you can imagine, this comes up from time to
time when you're hosting the Coaches Show, right imagine, and
there's things that you don't that the coach doesn't want
to talk about. But thankfully, historically we've never had a

(01:10:46):
ton of issues with All we say is, look, we
have to ask it, and you go however you want
to go with it. But we can't just sit up
here even if it is and I'm just using PJ
and as an example, the PJ Fleckshow or the Tracy
Klayscher or the Jerry Kill Show, Ben Johnson, Richard Patino,
Don Plitzewlight, like, we have to ask about it because
everybody listening is tuning in because they want to know

(01:11:08):
what you're going to say about it. We can't just
go an hour and talk about Wisconsin, James Franklin. We
just can't do that. You have to come up, you
have to say something. And I remember, I think it
was twenty eighteen when there was the big Start Tribune
expose and all the failed drug tests that apparently happened
with the football program and it came out like that day,

(01:11:30):
and you can't ignore that. And PJ came prepared. PJ
came straight up prepared and said, I'm not going to
tell you and I'm paraphrasing and I'm not remembering everything,
but he came prepared, said, yeah, we have a policy
that we drug tests in our program, and some things
came back from that and it wasn't exactly what the
Start Tribune reported, but I'm not going to tell you anymore,

(01:11:52):
and we're going to handle some stuff internally like that's
and he addressed it. We didn't need to spend twenty
minutes on it. It was a story that day. It
had to be talked about. It had to be asked.
Do you think I wanted to sit there? I was
getting ready for my second Quick Claim Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
You know what a thrill.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
But you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
You can't just sit there and say we're not going
to talk about this. You have to have and it
doesn't have to be any more than that. What is
being reported is inaccurate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
But we have. We had this come up, and we've
dealt with it and we're moving forward. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
That's all you have to say and you move forward.
But to do what James Franklin did was ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Yeah, yeah, anything else, I think it's a good spot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
All right, Well, thanks everybody. Burnsy, enjoy your hunting with
your dad, because that's why we're doing this on a Monday.
If you want to know why we're and this episode
is going to be pushed out Monday afternoon. We're giving
you a full extra day to get ready for Gopher's Illinois.
Not because Burnsy had any you know, obligation, but he
just wanted to go hunting with his dad. And we
are a family first podcast, right Ryan, It's family, faith,

(01:13:01):
and then football. That's why Chip has been gone for
the last month. And you know I'm here whenever you
guys need me to be here, just let I've got
nothing else going on. Whatever is good for you, guys,
I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
You're next, your next. We'll juggle the schedule for you next.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
We may have to so.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
And we know that Burnsey has to go hunting on
Tuesday with his dad because Thursday is Halloween and that
day is reserved for Ryan this mom. He's walking off
happy over the Burns family. He's Randy Burn, there's Jim Scoggins.
I'm justin guard. Thanks everybody. X Cafe is our great

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