2025 Week One Review: Gophers Beat Buffalo, Drake Lindsay, Iowa and Wisconsin QB's, Belichick Crushed

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need a Pair and a Spare. Thank you, PJ.
It is time for another edition of the Pair and
a Spare podcast. I'm justin Guard from Kfan. We've got
Chipschoggins from Football Across Minnesota and the Minnesota Star Tribune,
and Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot com. We are
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(00:21):
see the website on the scroll Jackscafe dot com. Make
your reservations at Jaxcafe dot com. We have no time
for BS today, boys, no time, so we can't bring
up here baby. Yeah. We can't bring up Chip's new
computer and the challenges that have come with that. We
can't bring up how Burnsey was fat shamed apparently right
after seeing me on Oak Street Thursday night before the game,

(00:44):
which I heard on Gopher Gridiron. We don't have any
time for that right now. Let's get right into the
football because that's what people want. And the beautiful part
about it is we have a lot to talk about.
And by the way, I love the Thursday night game,
because this Labor Day weekend, with all the games that
will probably be the most football I watch for the
entire season in one weekend. I feel like I could

(01:05):
answer almost any question about any team that played this
weekend because from Friday to Saturday to Sunday to even
last night Monday TCU in North Carolina, I feel like
I watch more football than I will the rest of
the season because of my Gopher duties and traveling and
everything like that. But impressions from the weekend burnsy before
we just dive right into the Gophers.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I guess I hadn't thought about that, but that's gonna
be incredibly true even with two Friday night games.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Then we start to get into your trying to get
brownie point season. You've got children. I've got a wife too,
where it's like we're trying to go to apple orchards
and go sit on hay bales to try and make
sure that our wives still know that they look you know,
we love them. But we try to tell people last
week week ones are weird. What you think and what
you know are completely different a lot of the time.

(01:53):
And the question is going to be now in a
week two and I think you're gonna hear us say
it a lot on this podcast. Is what is a trend,
what is not a trend, What is real, what is
not real? But I also would say what people thought
they were getting at quarterback and what the initial impressions were,
or I think markedly different, Chipper, Why would you say
that about Arch Manning? Why would Manning like that right

(02:16):
out of the gate. Yeah, we didn't even bring out
Texas and Ohio State in the pre production meeting, but
we got to talk about that for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Go ahead, Chip, Yeah, what was it you said last week?
He cautioned fans not there you overreact. Do you think
they're overreacting in Tuscaloosa this week? Did you think the
temperature is cranked up to what one hundred degrees? One
hundred ten degrees down there?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
You know this is where you know Arch You know,
I saw the Heisman things going into seas Arch Manning.
You know, it's like, can we let him play a game?
You know, let's let's see how this is like unfolds.
And then I saw somebody had a good game, and
like he jumped to the front of the Heisman trophy,
racing like this is week one. Let's let it play out.

(03:03):
So uh yeah, it's it's I love the the high
profile games where he had great matchups. I didn't see
Penn State, but if the games I watched, the team
that I was most impressed with was was LSU. I
thought they looked really really good.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Game in the opening. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean, obviously Ohio State's defense with Patricia running the
show there and what they did against Texas was impressive.
Florida State obviously was impressive, but I thought LSU was
the best team I saw this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Guards, what do you think before I jump back in,
I think you guys hit all of it. To me,
I was I was very excited about watching arch Manning.
People forget by the way he's been there a while,
like he's a right technically. I was extremely underwhelmed, and
I kind of want to see how he obviously plays out.

(04:08):
Tipper mentioned at the Ohio State defense, it felt like
for the first first half he didn't he didn't attempt
to pass over eight yards. It just you just felt
like he was almost trying to be like I'm too Manning,
like I understand, like I'm going to manage this game,
and you know, punting's fine. I mean, how many you know,
how many third and eighths did you see him just

(04:28):
check it down to you know, a tight end or
a running back and it was three yards and they'd
have to punt. Like I don't know if I was
expecting more gunslinger, but I was just underwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
By the whole operation. Like I feel like you have
a Manning, like go out there and sling it around
a little bit more. And I know he had, you know,
a couple of picks and all that, but I was
just underwhelmed, was the word for arch given that, And
it's not his fault that his last names Manning, and
he hasn't done anything to you know, pour gas on
his own fire. But I just I just felt like,

(05:02):
man with all the players Texas is supposed to have,
and you've got a Manning and it looks like Kirk
Cousins at the end of that Giants game that people
still talk about, like just checking it down and checking
it down and checking it down and checking it down.
I was it got kind of boring. It got kind
of boring where I just said, this is not fun.
I'm not enjoying this. I wanted more, but maybe I

(05:25):
just fed too much into the hype, and maybe I'm
being too hard on him.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I mean a start in the horseshoe against Matt Patricia's
defense with the athletes that Ohio State always has.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Is Yeah, but he's not a true freshman. I mean,
he's these are supposed to be these are supposed to
be the dudes that can handle that, right, that just
go right in there and do it. So, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I'd love to listen to Fine Bomb show today
after he already anointed him the Heisman Trophy winner. Yeah,
but I think my favorite tweet from that game was
it was I've seen more Arch manning commercials than first
down throws.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, I just with so much of this. Again, that's
a difficult environment for anybody to go into, and I'm
not trying to take Arch off the hook. He' you
got to play better. But it's also like onen's the
next time he's gonna play a defense. I don't pretend
to know the idiosyncrasies of Texas's schedule, considering they're not
a Big ten team, but it's gotta get easier for
him to try and build some confidence back because he

(06:22):
just looked he just looked like he wasn't seeing it.
Like we've seen Gopher quarterbacks look out there in the
secondary for years and it's like they're not processing what's
happening in Matt Patrici's an accomplished NFL coordinator. But yeah,
Arch not great, not great chipper.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, and I I was flipping back and forth in
the stunning upset. I was watching Tennessee mostly.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
On the Peyton Manning jersey.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I did wear it. Yeah, I head on my Peyton
man jersey and.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
You and missus sway to Rocky Top after the game
with the masses.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
There was no her my wife were gone, but there
was a bit of I don't know what the word
for the emotion was, because you know, he changed quarterbacks.
Our quarterback left us and went to Ucla, so we
took their quarterback, and I think we landed in a
pretty good spot. I'm happy with where I love to
wear a quarterback play and Nico had a rough outing

(07:15):
for UCLA's opener, But go back to Arch. Every time
it turned over, it was like he was throwing a
side arm pass behind a guy like his It looked
like his mechanics got out of whack to that I don't,
you know, I don't pretend to know. If he throws
that the sidearm passes, but he clearly whatever Patricia did,

(07:38):
I don't know. If it's the speed of the game,
blitz is what it. He just did not look comfortable.
Every time it turned over, it looked like he was
look like his his you know, he was overwhelmed by
the moment almost now. He did throw a couple of
nice balls to get him, you know, the one touchdown
was a nice throat that made the game interesting there.
But underwhelming is probably the right word, and partly because

(08:03):
there's just so much build up and hype and talk
and all this. You know, this is going to be right,
the next Tom Brady coming here, and it's just unfair
to him, probably, But when you have that kind of
build up for one player and then to have that performance,
and I'm guessing Ohio State coaches did a pretty good
job of letting their defensive guys know about all the

(08:25):
hype that was coming in about arch Manning too.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
For sure, for sure, So don't worry. Texas is still
number one in ESPN's FPI because hypothetically, if those two
teams were to play, Ohio state in Texas, Texas is
going to win those games. Hypothetically, according to the FBI.
Remember that, Okay, I'm sensing sarcasm from you. Yeah, oh
just a bit. Now Again, I'm not telling you Texas
should drop out of the top ten, because I still

(08:47):
think they played particularly well, I think, especially defensively. But like,
I think we might have to adjust the computer formulas. Boys,
if hypothetically Ohio State and Texas play and Ohio State wins,
and then he remained them at number one in the
in the computer polls. There, I'm just saying, all right, well,

(09:07):
you're the computer guy.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
We know chimp is, so you're the.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Computer guy me.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
All that being said, when they got the ball back
with like one forty four, I was totally bought in.
I was like, this is where he's going to do it.
I'm like, and then he had a really nice throw.
I can't remember if you had a nice throw that
was that was like a drop or broken up or
he actually had one of his best throws of the day.
I think we're going back three or four days. I
can barely remember that. I just dropped my kids off
from school. But I was like, and I think Joe
cladd even said it. He's like, wow, this is really

(09:35):
setting up for something potentially mythic. And then they turned
the ball over on downs and that was bad.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Across the middle throws it behind him and then the
rest is my history.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
All right, this is that, concludes arch Manning fan line.
Let's get into the gold. They play all the way
back on Thursday night. It feels like forever ago already,
and now we are in the season. We're taping this
on a Tuesday. We will always record unless mister Projects
has something that get him out of the state that
we can't help with, or all over the state. But
the Gophers twenty three to ten victory over Buffalo. Let's

(10:09):
start with the obvious our impressions of Drake Lindsay Burnssey.
We can start with you his first start under the
lights at Huntington Banks Stadium, the guy that they have
given the keys to the program to. What did you think?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean, it's tough for me to come away from
watching that game live, rewatching it and thinking other than
that was pretty dang good for a guy in his
first start. I mean, he thought he was poised. I
thought he really didn't get sped up outside of a
couple of plays before halftime. But that's what it had
been looking like in practice for the last eight months.

(10:41):
And so that's where you remember the opener last year
against North Carolina where bros murd didn't look like the
guy that he was in October and November. Well, if
Drake Lindsay can just have some guys catch and passes,
we'd be talking about a quarterback who completed over sixty
five percent of his passes and threw for over three
hundred yards in the opener. Now still through for two
ninety I believe, But I I thought Drake looked pretty

(11:05):
good for a guy in his first start.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Chip Yeah, you know, I wrote a column off there,
and the thing that really jumped out to me is
he didn't look like a guy making his first start.
He didn't look like a freshman. He just looked like
I've just settled in and played. And it was from
the first throw to Koy, I mean that's he put
that right on the money.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
His accuracy showed up, uh for the most part, even
though you know, like the the Jalen Smith catch where
he was bobbling going out of bounce, I mean, he
gets that right. Over that guy's arm. I mean, you
can't play it in.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Near perfect spot, like, yeah, you throw that ball any better.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
The things I like, I mean, you saw his poise,
you saw the arm strength, you saw the processing decision making.
Except for at the end of the first half, we'll get
to that. You saw the the accuracy. It just he
looked like a guy who's been doing this for a while,
which is I thought we would see. And you know,

(12:04):
remember we had Max on this offseason. He talked about
it took him a few games to kind of saddle
in because his excitement and just all that. I thought
the receiver drops probably were a product of just game
speed and guys getting used to that. You know, yeah,
they had I think four I kind of I don't

(12:25):
know how many officially they got credit for, but I
mean he would have thrown for three hundred fifty yards
and and and installed drives. I mean they were third
down drop so it stalled drives that left the empty
points there. So but I just thought and and I
thought he showed uh except for the sack uh there
at the end of the first half. I thought he
showed really good pocket awareness in terms of moving around,

(12:47):
stepping up you know, the one the deep ball to
Jalen Smith. He's on the run, throws off one foot,
but when the pressure came from the outside, he did
a nice job of moving moving up into pocket. So
I mean I was really impressed. I mean, guard you
walk by. When I was right by column atwards, I
was like, man, this kid's really good.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I think we saw why they've been so excited
about him. Really and honestly, I think I think one
of his best throws was, you know, third and seventeen
in the in the first half, right, yeah, and you know,
we're still kind of detoxing from the last fifty years
of Gopher football, you know, certainly going back to Mace,

(13:23):
where like we're just gonna run the ball, and Jerry
Kill wanted to run the ball, and we know PJ
wanted to run the ball. It's third and seventeen in
the first half. You've got a red shirt freshman quarterback.
They dropped back to pass. He throws an absolute dot.
Jalen Smith has it for a minute, then gets smoked
and drops it, and so everyone's talking about the replay
on the catch, the targeting, and I'm like on the radio,
I said, can we talk about the throw for a second,

(13:46):
like that's lost in all of this that Yeah, it
might have been targeting. Yeah he should probably bring that in.
But can we talk about how it's third and seventeen
and PJ. Fleck just dropped back to pass and the
quarterback just you know, daggered it basically between three people.
Like that's what I want to focus on and bigger
picture we all wondered was the Brosmer And it's one game,

(14:07):
of course, but was the Brozmer year going to be
the aberration in terms of modern offense and letting the
guy throw? And I'd say through one game, they're not
slowing down, right, They're they're gonna Drake Lindsay sling it.
He threw it over thirty times.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
And they dropped back the past thirty eight times. And
we just spent time talking about arch man A being
captain checkdown drat Lindsay's a dot averaged depth of target
aka how far the ball traveled down the field from
the line of scrimmage on average was over eleven yards. Yeah,
that would have been second best of all Big Ten

(14:42):
quarterbacks last year. So it's not like he was exclusively
checking it down to Darius Taylor or whoever it may be.
He was letting that thing fly now they needed him to,
because I mean, we can get to some of the
red zone struggles. But it's it's fun to see that
it wasn't a, at least in the opener, a one
year aberration because going into that final drive, Drake had

(15:04):
dropped back to pass I think thirty six times and
Darius only had eighteen carries, of which it's not like
they were struggling to run the ball. Now. They weren't
running it incredibly explosive or efficiently, but they were doing
much better than they had in the previous two openers.
But I'm just and that's where Flex said it yesterday
when as press conference I asked him about the pass

(15:24):
catchers in the passing game, and he goes, this is
a chance to be a really special passing game, and
we cannot take that for granted.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
So I could show you my notebook because I was
watching on YouTube and I wrote that exact phrase down.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
We can't take that for granted, which tells me Chip
that you're going to continue to see Drake lindsay. I
think if you want a deduce from the head coach again,
there's not a ton that you always can do. But
that quote to me specifically, was like, oh, they're going
to keep throwing this thing man.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well yeah, I mean you dropped back thirty eight times,
and I mean, why wouldn't you that guy, I mean,
they don't have to go back. I mean there is
a trust with this guy that I mean, they don't
need to go back to where it's run, run, run, run,
run run. Okay, we occasionally sprinkle in a pass. I mean,
you have a guy that clearly has a lot of

(16:16):
talent and a lot of maturity and just the mental
makeup to be able to handle all this. And you know,
I think it's good that he had that that two
play sequence at the end of the first half and
he got his you know, he got chewed out a
little bit by Fleck there on because you know, the

(16:37):
pass was just ill avised. You can't do that. Throw
it there. He got lucky, it wasn't interception, and obviously
he can't take the sack. But you want him to
make those mistakes against Buffalo. So if you get against
Iowa and you're in a similar situation, He's gone through
some of these things. So this is all with this.
If you play it so safe in the non conference,

(16:57):
you don't learn these things. And that's the whole point
of of you know, him developing, is put him in
these situations where you may screw up you know what,
but it didn't cost you a game, and he's gonna
learn from it.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah. They dropped back to past thirty eight times and
I was before they handed it off like sixteen straight time, right,
So that tells you mean with nine minutes left in
the third fourth quarter in the game, that's how so
it was. Yeah. I loved it. I loved the approach.
I know, Burnsy, there were some folks that didn't love
the approach of that nine and a half minute drive.
Take us into that criticism, and I assume you have

(17:32):
some thoughts.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I mean, I'm so tired of talking about it now
it's ninety six hours later, just because I feel like
it's one of those things in week one where because
it's a Thursday night game, people just have extra time
to consternate about something.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's a very Dan Barrero Asque word there.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, thank you for warming me up.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, that's where I tend to and I've given my
thoughts on this, but I'll do it one last time.
That was the longest dry I think, both in time
and total plays that they've had in a fourth quarter
since Moe Ibraham was here in twenty twenty two. Like,
they have stunk assaulting the game away. I think about

(18:12):
that twenty twenty three Northwestern game where they had a
twenty one point lead in the fourth quarter. They couldn't
run the ball and they couldn't sustain drives to save
their life. Like the only iteration of that drive that
we sort of saw was last year in Wisconsin, where
I think it was still like a ten play drive
that they just ran the ball and then kicked a
field goal.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
They hadn't been able to put games away, and that's
why they were three and four in one possession games
last year. That's part of it. And so for them
to go sixteen plays. And the thing that I think
everybody's all upset about is Darius Taylor getting twelve touches
on that drive to put him at thirty carries for
the game. I just that's the thirteenth straight game he's

(18:56):
played in. He had eight months off. Northwestern State is
this weekend. He's not gonna get a bunch of touches
this weekend, and if he does, we can come back
on this podcast a week from now and just absolutely
light up the head coach. But I don't see that happening,
you know, by the way, the bye week's two weeks away,
Like he's he's practicing yesterday from when I'm told like

(19:18):
there isn't some like I feel like people forget that. Yeah,
running backs also just get injured because they're running backs,
and he's not injured right now. Yeah, they ran him
into the ground in twenty twenty three. But last year,
do you guys know how many games Darius Taylor had
twenty I think it was twenty or more carries in.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't Ryan, I.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Know you've had what twive he ever seventeen yards or
seventeen carries a game last year?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, so he had four games of twenty plus carries.
He had one game of thirty or more carries. Now,
if the argument is why are you burning him for
thirty carries against Buffalo? That's where I asked Fleck about
it yesterday, of which he wasn't thrilled to talk about.
But that's fine. It's they're trying to show the team
that in a hypothetical world where against Rutgers or Michigan

(20:06):
State or cal whenever it's going to be coming that
when you get the ball back up for and you
need to put this thing away, that you can draw
back on something and say we did it here. And
I think there's more value in that, especially if Darius
stayed healthy. So again, do you guys care about the
whole Darius Taylor getting aj Turner and Cam Davis got

(20:26):
carries on that drive to be clear here too, but
Fleck is the one who you can see it if
you go back and watch. He wanted Darius to stay
in there, so.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I was standing right next to it. We talked about
it on the radio. He went out, he was gassed.
The one one thing I'll say is when he starts
getting up real slow, that makes me nervous because you
do have to I get what you're saying, and I
actually like the mentality part of it that we have
to do. Like Chip was saying earlier, we have to
do some things and establish some things now that will

(20:56):
help us down the road. And you when you get
the ball back when nine and a half minutes left
and you don't give it back I mean that reminded
me of the Auburn you know, the outback Bowl, right,
we've done They've done that a million times, you know,
earlier in flex tenure it did. I was I wasn't
like angry about it, but I was thinking about it, like, Okay,
you're up thirteen, there's three minutes left. You probably could

(21:20):
give another guy another carry or two here, as opposed
to like rushing him back out there. Because there was
the one play Flack. You can see it. I watched.
I did the rewatch too burnsy because he was turned
away from me at this time. He's basically get him
some water, and like then he turns around after the
first down plays like you could and Darius is like, yeah,
he kind of gets out there carries it again. I

(21:41):
don't think I don't think it's the end of the world,
but I understand why there's a why there would be
some nervousness about it because the game was probably over
at that point and you could salt it away with
one of those You can.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Talk about it up until I would say twenty four
to forty eight hours afterwards. We're on Tuesday, We're five
days later.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's their first podcast.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I gotta I gotta be honest with you. I didn't
even know this was a thing until I was texted
with Burnssey on Saturday and I just told him said, yeah,
i'm writing the dares Taylor calm. He's like, well, if
you're writing about his uh getting thirty carries, we're gonna
have a problem.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I'm like, we're gonna have a problem.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Where did that come from?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Like?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
What? Huh?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Like?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I didn't even I know he had thirty carries, but
it didn't. He's young, he's a running back. It's the
first game. They're trying to establish a running game. They
were not good last year in the running game. They
were one hundred and ninth last year in rushing. They
need to establish something. I don't understand what are we doing.
I didn't know this was a thing. Then as I
thought about it was like, that must be a message

(22:41):
board thing. He's got Burnsy going get off the message
boards even though you own one.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, it's likes the Curse of Go for illustrated.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I didn't even, I gotta be honest with you. It
didn't even I didn't even it didn't even register with me.
That part of it was. I was on deadline cranking
out a calm, and I knew they had the game
one at that point, so I wasn't counting every Darius either,
because they're trying to establish that they can run the
ball when they get to get it. And what he
guess what, He's not gonna have a lot of carries

(23:10):
this week. I don't think right they're gonna spread the
carry workload out against this opponent. But I that feels
like we're nitpicking that, you know, and as you know,
it's funny. I was, I covered the links last night
and Cheryl Reeve's like, you know, should I wrest him?
Should I send him? Should I play him?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Rest all? She's like, things can happen. You can try
to rest people and things can happen. Injuries happen. Yes,
they're up big, they're gonna win the game. Could you
have sat Darius there and give an a J. Turner
or someone else carries? Yes, But I understood the mentality
of just as I talked about with Drake Lindsay, and
they they need to work on things in these non

(23:53):
conferences and establish an idea and let them work through
things they need to. They need to show that they
can run the ball for effect. Didn't last year, and
they need to show that they can when the game's online,
that they can go milk, you know, milk it away
and hold the And that's not just Darius, that's offensive line.
I think that's what he was trying to do. He's
trying to establish something.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, let's where if this would have happened, I say
against Perdue, which this is another plausible scenario because I
think Purdue is going to be a bad team, and
say this happened in the Purdue game where it's the
middle of the six game onslaught of this schedule where
it's all Big ten opponents, and in that instance, if
you had bird him for thirty carries in that scenario,

(24:33):
that wouldn't make any sense to me, because you still
got Big ten games on both sides of it. That
Darius has been beat up on. But I just think
the context of he's had eight months off, he gets
Northwestern State and then yeah, you'll need him against Cattle,
but then he gets a bye week, like there's opportunities
to rest him in the very short term here that
I just I don't get as worked up about it is.

(24:55):
I guess if you a lot of fans, and I've
even seen some media be upset up about this, and
I'm just like, we need to play another game, like
the Northwestern State game needs to come and go. But yeah,
it's it's strange to say. Also that again they only
put up twenty three points, which they stunk in the
red zone. You had the flukiest interception I can remember

(25:16):
in fifteen years of covering this team, where it ricochets
off an ankle, of which Darius Taylor sprints fifty yards
down the field to get go ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I have a question about that. Was was Drake throwing
that ball away?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
No, No, he's purposely.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Throwing it low. Was he trying to throw it? I mean,
he looked like he purposely threw it low.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, I would tell you it wasn't a great throw,
but he got through his progression down the field, and
I'm assuming he had checked to see if Jamison was
up a second ago, of which then when Jamison turned
his head to the left, he got decleted by the linebacker,
which is legal because it's in five yards of the
line of scrimmage. And then it just happened to be
I think Drake was like, I'm gonna let it go,

(25:57):
and then when he saw Jamison was doing a tucking
tuck and.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
There he held onto it more than because it looked
like he was I thought he was. I couldn't tell
if he was it was a bad throw because it
was good, you know, it's obviously low, or was he
just kind of throw it in the ground because he
knew he's on the ground there and it was.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Gonna be He got caught in a little bit of
a weird spot. But I also would say I've never
seen it ricochet off an ankle perfectly to a linebacker
like that.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Crazy was good on Darius, by the way, you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
That could be shown across any team meeting. And it
was flag But you put up the same amount of
total yards against Buffalo. I think it was four hundred
and thirty three that you also did against Maryland last
year where he scored forty eight points.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
It's like it's tough for me because I know some
people are well the offense wasn't much good.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm like, no, it just what they were good. They
were good. They were good.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
The thing is again that they had drops on third
down like they that cost him points there at the
first drive. They probably get points there if they don't.
You know, if Jalen hangs onto that ball, uh jamis
and had the what the third down drop over the middle,
was it the second possession?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, well he bobbles the third down one where
if he catches it clean, he gets the first down. Instead,
they do the tush push of y. I think, like
Ann Harbo would tell you, I think they thought it
was fourth and inches. It was like fourth and a
yard and a half after the spot. Yeah, and they
weren't clear about that. Fleck was very He goes, I'm
not wanted to talk about things in hindsight, but he goes,

(27:25):
that was a terrible call by me. So you screwed
up that Jalen Smith can't get a foot down and
another one you get into the red zone and the
nine nine and a half time of possession drive. But
then you end the game like they're just weird things
that happened. They were better than average in red zone
touchdown percentage last year. I'm not incredibly worried about it.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
It's just and I thought Buffalo's defense was better than
their offense. I was impressed with Buffalo's offense. I mean,
I'll give granted, Gopher's defense, but I'm just not you know,
I know the quarterback seventh year, but I don't know,
Well they are that good their defense. I thought they
had some players, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, Red Murdoch was incredible. Outside of the outstanding key
and Peel sketch football name, he played like a man
with his hair on fire. I mean he could start
I think at about any Big ten school at linebacker.
That number two was flying around. But yeah, Danny Collins's
defense again, that's a that's a for Mac offenses. They
had two All conference returning skill position players, plus I

(28:23):
would imagine that was going to be one of the
better Mac offensive lines considering they were turned multiple guys
that were All Conference a year ago.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
And from the.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Opening drive Devin Eastern and Anthony Smith and Jalen Logan
Redding said welcome to the Big Ten. I mean, that
was one of my favorite Anthony Smith moments in terms
of pressing a three hundred and ten pound man against
his will into the lap of the quarterback for the
first back of the season. Yeah, that looks like Anthony
Smith is ready to go in year four here, Chip.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, I mean, they're they're the Gover's defense line just
absolutely dominated that first half were I mean Anthony Smith
shoving the left back go all the way back into
the quarterback first play kind of set the tone, and
I thought Devin Eastern really collapsed the pocket from inside.
I mean he was you know, uh, they had a
tough time with him. You know, their corners nestor the

(29:13):
pass breakup where he stretches out and that's a nice play.
I think, Uh it was a Brian had one pass
breakup too, that was a nice play. So you know
it was a good effort. You know they had one
bust Uh.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that was Brown.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
That was a that was a I don't know if
he'd been on a double move or something.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, that was one where I can see those
coming a lot of times because of where I stand.
I'm just like, like you could tell they were taking
it and he got cooked. I mean he was. He
was very greedy. He was Tyler Neuban esque and trying
to yeah, well I'm gonna go get this, and he
got completely cooked. It was tough, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
He's a good player, so I mean it's oh.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah he has He had an other good plays too,
in terms of tackling too. I think the secondary played
pretty well. That was a big question mark, especially Burnsy,
because there were a couple of injuries along that side, right,
I mean they had when the availability report, your favorite
part availability report came out two hours before, there was
quite a few secondary members that were on there. So
what do we know about potentially getting some of those

(30:15):
guys back for maybe not this weekend, but certainly cal.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, I mean Andy asked Andy Greeder. The Pioneer Press
asked Fleck about it yesterday, and as we get told
every single week, but if we don't ask, people get mad.
Is Fleck tells you, we'll find out two hours ahead
of time. So that'll be our one injury question for
the entire year because we know what we're going to get.
But they were without a couple of Nickel guys Jonaton McMillan,

(30:39):
Darius Green, which is why you saw a lot more
Carry Brown or even Coy Parrotts in the slot at
times because they were a little shorthanded there. I think
you're gonna get Mike Gerald back, who is a red
shirt freshman corner who was competing with John Nestor on
the outside here pretty soon, of which I'm curious to
see how they rotate him in. But the other thing
with the defense is we talked about a lot in

(30:59):
the open last year. I think Corey Heatherman told us
they had twenty two miss tackles against North Carolina. Now
that helps to have O Marion Hampton, who were a
first round tailback for them. Now I think he's on
the is it the Los Angeles Chargers or is it
San Diego Chargers?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
One of the LA LA Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Pro Football Focus had him at zero miss tackles, so
loved to talk about his seventy eight percent, which is
explosive plays, turnovers and misstackles. Minnesota had zero miss tackles
and it felt like it, which is how you go
one of eleven on third down if you're Buffalo. But
I think the linebackers, I think Maverick Baranowski and Devin

(31:40):
Williams played some of their better games in a Gopher
uniform where didn't look too fast, didn't look like twenty
twenty two when those guys had to be potentially thrown
out there to the Wolves. It looked like guys who
have developed. And I think kudos to Mariano. Sorry Marin,
in his first game as the linebacker coach, because tough
to argue with the results there.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, I mean, uh, all three levels, I thought they
were good. But to me, it starts up front with
those guys. I mean, those guys set the absolute tone.
And if if they can if and you throw Jackson
Howard in there, I mean, if they can get pressure
with four guys and and have that kind of impact,
and it's gonna be tougher obviously when you start facing

(32:23):
big ten offensive lines. But everything about what Danny can
do starts with those guys up front, if they can
stay healthy. Because I don't know about the depth, but
their frontline guys are really good. I mean Anthony Smith
looks like an out there.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah you know, well he acts like one. He acts
like he knows he's an NFL player, right, which I
think is a level too, Like, yeah, when you get
to that, when you know you're just a dude and
you play like that, Yeah, from the beginning, Like you say,
that makes a difference. Jackson Howard at your first possession
had a great little you know, edge set there on
the run play, and that's what I know. Danny Collins

(32:58):
has talked about that that we needed him to get
to that spot in the run game so he can
go out there and help us. So that's a good
sign that first possession. He's just out there doing exactly
what he's supposed to do, right, because people forget he
was the number one ranked player in the in the
class that year, right, Burnsy according to two four to
seven Sports. So dude's got some talent. He has been

(33:19):
waiting for his opportunity, and so I'd love to see that.
Anything on special teams, you want to get to Burnsy
before we oh go Ahead's.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
One thing we talked about that line, Burnsy can me
flip over to the offensive line. Having gone back and
watched it, like just first impression naked eye, I thought
they got better as the game went on. I thought
the start wasn't great. I know would have been the
second quarter. I think they gave up a sack or
hit on a stunt where they looked like there's some

(33:48):
confusion there. But I felt like they settled in and
got better as a line as the game went on.
Is that what your tape showed you?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, I thought, especially compared to previous openers or previous septembers.
For Brian camllahan, offensive lines. They did better than what
a lot of other lines have done against what I
thought was a very physical front seven per Buffalo. I
was again, I was impressed with the Buffalo defense in
terms of the way they flew around, the physicality. I

(34:16):
will say, we'll see if it continues throughout September, but
I think the left side of your line's got a
chance to be pretty good. I mean, I thought Nathan
Roy even I think he had pig tails in the
first half, or a couple of braids coming down the
back there, which I can't remember an offensive lineman with
braids or pig tails, whatever the heck they were, of

(34:36):
which in his first career start, I thought he performed
pretty well. I thought Greg Johnson and Fleck talked about
it yesterday too. I mean, I think that guy I
saw him get to the second level more than I
saw guards do the entire year last year from Minnesota,
which is only going to help Darius and aj Turner
and whoever. The tailbacks are spring more explosive runs. Hopefully

(35:00):
the transfers on the right side are still figuring it out.
I wouldn't be surprised to see khalite Fi potentially mix
in on the right side here potentially as soon as Saturday.
But for Game one, I think they did pretty well
all things considered. But special teams wise, uh, Pete Lembo
special teams guru, his entire background, could you tell he

(35:22):
wanted nothing to do with coy Perrich.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna was gonna say, yeah, beat me.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
No, he is not. No.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And the one time he did get to return he
saw why. I mean it was yeah, eighteen yards whatever
was he was itchy. He was getting itchy. You could
tell he was like, well, they're not gonna play me
on offense for a while. I'm not getting any kicks.
They're not throwing at me. You could tell, at least
I thought I could, that he was. He hated to
watch that ball sail over his head in the end zone,

(35:52):
and he hated to look five hundred yards up in
the air at those punts.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
He was he wanted to go. I look, I looked
at hangtime on punts across college football because I'm a sicko. Yeah.
The Buffalo punter ranked top fifteen of like one hundred
and forty teams. Like they sky punted everything the Koite perriage,
which match what we saw on Thursday night Ship.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well guess what. I don't think that's gonna be the
last time we see it too. I think teams are
going to sacrifice distance for hangtime. I mean, I just
think they're gonna try to eliminate his explosiveness as much
as they can. And I looked at it, I didn't.
I don't know if you charted Coy's snaps on offense,
I unofficially I had him at six. I thought most
of them were in the first half.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
I don't know what the final.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Toll were like on that first drive.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
To be honest, Yeah, I think I had him at six.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I did.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I didn't like one actual one. There was one extra
one app Yeah, I think it was offense.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Okay, so yeah, I must have missed one second. I
did like the wildcat with him and Darius in the backfield.
That that opens up some things possible.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Why not? Yeah, give it a shot, show it, make
people think about it.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Well, that's the funny part is like Kirk Sharaka showed
nothing and then his protege Grego in the first two
drives is showing Wildcat to like all these different types,
like he threw the kitchen sink and said to cal here,
you got all these things to prepare for in two weeks.
Enjoy Texas Southern and preparing for all these random assortment
of things. Two very different approaches, which fine with me.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
All right, anything else go for related we should get
to before we pause and come back and spin around
the Big ten and the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
We should talk about our wonderful partners.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
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And what do we know, they gave away their tickets
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and we did that on YouTube last week somebody was
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imagine it won't be the last time that we get
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(37:49):
get some later this week for a northwestern state, so
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three quarter zip sitting out on a patio, looking at
the babbling brook and grabbing some fish. Jacks has been
our partner for a while. We absolutely love it. Burnsy.
When we were out at Oak Street before the pregame show,

(38:09):
multiple people just in that little ten minute stretch. It
happens all morning. When I'm out there all night on Thursday,
people come up and they yell about the podcast and
then they go, we love Jack. Somebody mentioned that they
went to one of their kids got married at a courthouse.
At the courthouse and then all the in laws and
everybody just went to Jacks. It was just we're gonna

(38:30):
go get married and then we're gonna go to Jack's.
I thought that was cool as hell, right, because it's
a special occasion place. It's a great happy hour place,
it's a date night place. Really, whatever mood you're in,
Jack's has something for you.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, And that's one of my favorite parts about coming
out the Oak Street with you is being able to
talk with everybody. Everybody says nice things for the most part,
and having I remember now, it was three different people
came up and said that they had gone to Jack's
in the last week. And so we appreciate people who
support us, who support our sponsors, and to be able
to go experience Jacks, of which I cannot stress to

(39:06):
you how excited I am for highs of sixty one
degrees and every window in my house will be open.
My wife already knows she's gonna have to wear a
sweatshirt to bed when it dips into the forties. You
know what that screams to me. It's time to go
get on that patio. It's time to go make sure
that we're taking care of business at Jack's Cafe. Chip.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, you know we always. I gave you my my
recommended food.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I gave you.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
So my buddy Kyle was there, Sarah Nett. I get
a text from him. He's like, hey, I met Jackson.
He had the drink menu and he had it circled.
He was getting the Jack's Manhattan. Yeah. I pulled up.
Is that Luxardo as I pronounce it, infuse Maker's mark
private selection Jack's ninetieth Anniversary barrel? How goodness that sounds.

(39:55):
So shout out to my friend Kyle for visiting Jackson.
Just look at that they're drinking, you may and there's
some some nice looking drinks on there. So I'm normally
a wine and beer guy, but you look at that,
It's like, I'll try one of those that sounds great,
so appreciate. I told them, Hey, go see Bill, tell
him we're friends. Everybody do that if you if Bill
is there, say hi, I say you're listener of the

(40:16):
pod and and uh because Bill's uh one of one.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
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Speaker 2 (40:36):
We have to talk about? I just remembered we talk
about Chips starting the day at one hundred percent. We
don't even know if that's true.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I heard about this, Yeah, I heard about this.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
We have to talk about our Do you even remember this?
We had just so Chip and I sitting Sam her
on the press box. He's a few down from me.
I'm walking out to go SEEGUARDSY on Oak Street and
I and I jokingly say, Chip or you one hundred percent?
He kind of taps his phone. Chip, you don't even
have the phone battery PERCENTAGEHN, so you don't even know
if you're at one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I can I can scroll on it and look at it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
How do you not have it readily available at all times, though, Chipper,
for a man such as yourself, who is so concerned
about phone.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Battery right now? And I was at ninety seven, I
was at ninety seven that day.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I looked, I'm dying.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I put it on your phone exact.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Moment in time he knew what phone.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, I mean usually it's just on the main home screen.
It's just on like mine's upper right all time. I
am not so, but like Chip doesn't have it right
next to it. He has to scroll to see it,
which I think is fascinating. Chip, And it wets battery.
It wasts battery that one extra move. Think about how
it's not that.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
There's suspense about it, but it's like that three seconds
of hey, what's it going to be at? Like that anxiety?
So I got a you're in that nice seven when
but I was plugged in when he walked by, I'm
at one hundred percent. Now what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I like how that's the suspense that Chip wants in
his day, is to stay. I wonder if I'm at
ninety four and ninety six percent right now, because you
know it's not going to be below nineties.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
It's the simple things in life that you look for, guys.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Simple. Yeah, Now, Birdsey was apoplectic is probably too strong
a word. He just you could tell it. It was
bugging him the entire ride down the elevator, in the
entire way.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
You can do it on your phone to show.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You what kind of phone do you have?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I don't know you.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
That's a tough question. You have an iPhone? Yeah, it
should it should just be right on right on the
upper right. I don't know why it's not. I don't
even know there was.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Another Missus Goggins, help you out with that one and
one of your lovely children. Can can run yet?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Set it up? I don't want to do it like,
yeah I can, just I can. All you got to
do is like scroll over look at one hundred percent
right here. I could show you if.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
You the drama, this suspend, this suspense on what's it
going to be like? Remember Chip didn't even know there
were there were three different colors in the battery that
some people get to yellow and red. Chip just always
assumed it was green. Yeah, he didn't even know that
there were different colors. To let you know that you're
getting you're getting a little bit low and you might

(43:14):
need to charge it.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
All right, Sorry for that sidetrack, but.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
No, I'm glad you got it off your chest because
I could tell it was bothering you. It was bothering
you big time. For the pregame show.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's another thing I didn't pay attention to.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Sorry, I just yeah, supposed to be yah week one,
week one? All right, what do we make of the
Iowa quarterback performance? It's another year where and I watched
a fair amount of the first half of this and burnsy,
I texted you, I texted some other people and I said, so,

(43:46):
Mark Kurnowski doesn't look very good, Like missed a wide
open should have been touchdown on the first drive. You
know Iowa had in their first two drives. I think
you know they went backwards one of them, like it
just it didn't You're very clean again first game and
this guy comes in very highly touted, won a million
games right in the FCS for South Dakota State. So

(44:09):
I'm just I didn't watch. I guess after you know,
they just started running the ball for the most part
in the second half and he ended up leaving with cramps,
which that happens a ton in first games. As we
know about underwhelmed. I think to use that word again,
underwhelmed from the top of the show. I was expecting
more from a guy that they were really excited to
get and a guy who's been super productive.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, he didn't look like the six year senior that
has won a million games for the jack Rabbits. He
looked like a guy in his first start, which I
don't know how much of it is the offseason shoulder
surgery and maybe he's just very rusty because he didn't
get spring ball. And but it's tough to not watch

(44:53):
that and think, boy, is that game against Iowa State
this weekend gonna be a huge litmus test for him
alone him, but to kind of set the tone for
the entire Iowa season of if Gronowski does this again
and just is missing simple throws and I was loses

(45:13):
the Iowa State because partly because of their offense. It's
tough for me not to say, here we go again
for a guy you played a million plus dollars too
to come see you. It's just that was and we
saw Brozmurn not look great and I'm not trying to
overreact a ton, But it's it's like Gronowski and Brosmer

(45:34):
were in similar situations. I would say, fcs coming to
the Big ten, experienced guys to play a lot of football,
and we all three of us would agree Brosmer wasn't
great in the opener, but he wasn't like that chip.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, I didn't see a second of this game. Did
he miss early? And they shut it down because he
only attempted fifteen passes?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well, he he left the game also with cramps his guards,
he said, but like.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Eight fifteen for four four yards. I didn't know if
he was. Let's just run the ball and win with
defense and special teams and.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Run pretty much. And he scored a touchdown running right. Yeah, yeah,
I think they they shut him down pretty much, and
then he got shut down because of you know, the cramping.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
So well, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
You don't start well and then you don't give him opportunities.
And that's the strange part to me, is Okay, it
didn't start well, but it's like, okay, well, let's get
some easy rhythm throws going for him to get him
some confidence going into Iowa State. Yeah, no, thank you,
all right, cramps, let's get him out of the game.
So I don't know what to expect from him in
that in the cyclone matchup this upcoming weekend.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well that's the That's the thing is like you would
think going into such a big games hug week that
you would want him feeling good about your passing game
going into that, so you're not answering questions about the
quarterback in the passing game and throwing for forty four
yards going and gets you know, your state rival. So yeah,
I'm I'm curious to see, you know, what that looks

(47:00):
like against a you know, a pretty good Iowa State team.
I've seen him a couple of times here. Their defense
isn't great, but they you know, they can run the ball.
They got a veteran quarterbacks reason.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
That they win, and Mark Gronowski is part of the
reason why I loses. Boy, is that going to be
an interesting because guards you're the Iowa alum I didn't
I didn't graduate from Let's get this right.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, let's let's get it right. Gradold athlete.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Are you surprised at the media reaction being kind of
what it is in terms of I've seen a lot
of columns saying like let's not press the panic button,
which yeah, okay, but also that was like Chris Streveler
San Jose State almost Yeah, well watched.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
That's a good example. Those Streveler ended up getting time
in the NFL. Like so, I I do think I'm
not surprised because he has been so productive before, because
you even said last week, it's one week. The problem
is there's so much Iowa quarterback baggage, you know. And
I pulled it up because I wanted to get the

(48:09):
exact number because the other, you know, interesting thing is
and I was texting with some Iowa friends over the
weekend just to kind of get their thoughts. Kirk Ference
picked up his two hundred and fifth victory over the weekend,
which ties him for the most in Big Ten history
with Woody Hayes. Right, like, the guy's had an unbelievable run.
Everybody knows what I think of Farens. I think we

(48:29):
all agree. I mean, I hope he coaches for ever.
What he's done there is beyond, you know, to follow
up the Hayden Fry run and have basically one of
his own, just like it is incredible, and he's done
that with very few quarterbacks that you can just go
that guy was a dude, you know, like even Brad Banks.
When I was in school there, Brad Banks split time
his first year. He was the Heisman Trophy runner up

(48:51):
to Carson Palmer and had an unbelievable season. He was
splitting time his junior season and in But we're all
watching it, going, why isn't Banks playing more like they
should be playing Banks? Like before they went to Ricky Stansey,
who was a dude, they were playing. I think Jake Christiansen,
who was awful, like they've just Texan was one of

(49:14):
my good buddies who listens to the pod. I won't
I won't out him in case he doesn't want to
be outed. But he just said, yeah, I mean, you
go through all these these random quarterbacks that they've had
that haven't been very good. You know, Drew Tait was
obviously very good. Yeah, you know, they had Nate Stanley,
but then it's just like they haven't really ever gotten
it right right consistently. And at the end of the

(49:36):
day you look up me, he goes, well, he's won
two hundred and five games, And I said, that just
shows you how good a coach the guy is. Like
that He's won two hundred and five games with not
greatness all the time. And I know it's hard. I've
always said the NFL can't find thirty two quarterbacks, so
what chance does the Big ten West have to find
a guy? And I think that's fair. It's just crazy that,

(49:58):
you know, just the last handful of years, whether it's
you know, they're firing Brian Farrence or they're you know,
bringing in Tim Lester, it's like they haven't been able.
And again it's one game and maybe they found him,
but Kate McNamara was supposed to be that guy. Right,
that was a disaster. You go back before, you know,
all the quarterbacks that we've seen that the Gophers have played,
and by the way, they've still beaten the Gophers with

(50:19):
just ridiculous quarterbacks. It's crazy to me that they just
haven't been able to, like in a while, find that guy.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, well that's it. I mean when you're saying not
Panics because they've had bad quarterback play and the wind
up nine to.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Three, right, really since CJ. Bethard, Right, I mean when
they went to the Rose Bowl that was ten years ago.
I don't know all their quarterbacks atter, I mean because
Bethards was good.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Stanley since then, I think Stanley.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Was before before was before.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, yeah, we're getting old, man. I can't remember all
of that, but.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
I drew Tate the way. He's the one. He stands
out to me. I thought he was.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, and that was two thousand and two. Yeah, two
thousand and four, I should say Banks to two thousand
and two. Tate was four when I was.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
On the beat. Yeah, he was a nice player.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
For sure. But they just haven't, Like there's the reason
why the fans are probably panicking more than the media
is because they've watched it for a while, you know,
since CJ. Bethard. Really unless I'm forgetting someone and people
can hit the comments and remind me, but they just haven't.
The offense has been a thing now for a while,
and a lot of that is because they just haven't
had good quarterbacks, which is stunning. Which is stunning, it is,

(51:25):
and that's where you would hope that Gridowski would throw
for more than forty four yards against the powerhouse that
is Albany.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
But when you also have the offensive line than Iowa
has it really good, really, which I think a top
probably four Big ten offensive line. Now the other underrated
part of that game is didn't there starting tailback go
out and then came back out to start the second
half in a sling, which that may impact things considering
you go from Caleb Johnson to your starting tailback then

(51:54):
gets hurt. Now it may not matter if to Chip's point,
if Iowa State's defense, which has already struggled to an extent,
if they can't stop the run, it's going to be
a long day in that Sihawk rivalry. But Gronowski's development
throughout the month of September or something we will all
be watching. So Stanley was after Bethard, stan Zee was
before bethar It's stan Lee was after Bethart, and Stanzy

(52:17):
was good. But even even I say that it took
them a while to give him the ball, if I
remember correctly, and I kind of yeah, yeah, Well there
was the Jake Christensen was in there and he was
like a four star, big time Elite eleven quarterback, a lefty,
And I remember being at the game or they lost

(52:37):
to Western Michigan. This is before PJ got there, and
it was not good. I mean it was warm killers, it.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Was bad, and and then they split time. I think
maybe the next season if I remember, right, and then
Stanzy kind of took it over. They went to an
Orange Bowl, and the rest is history. So they've had
you know, they had a good run, you know, from
Tate to Stansey to bether to Stanley who spent some
time with the Vikings in the NFL. But kind of
since then, they just haven't been able to find consistency

(53:06):
and that's been one of the problems why the offensive struggled.
But also they're coming there in the middle of like
maybe the best record wise run in the entire Farens
era the last six years, they still just win nine
or ten games. So it's like, that's what's amazing. That's
what's amazing about the whole thing. They've never needed greatness
from it, right, They've just needed competence, And even in

(53:26):
the Spy in spite of not having competence, they've still
been able to just rack up victories and win the
West a couple of times, and and you know, you know,
kind of.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
The rest is history.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Wisconsin, they lost their quarterback, they had some I mean,
they win the game seventeen zero. It was three zero forever.
This game was on the same time as US right,
So I saw none of this, so I will lean
on you guys if you popped your head in on
it and saw kind of what was going on there.
But they get the victory, which they need because we
know how tough their schedule is. We've talked about it
a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, Billy Edwards not being out for the season is
a great thing for them, of which when you leave
with a non contact lower leg injury and then are
immediately ruled out coming out of halftime, it's safe to
say a lot of Badger fans I would imagine having
Tyler van Dijke flashbacks and thinking to ourselves, are we
really going to have to ride the horse with Danny
O'Neil for the rest of this thing? So I think

(54:18):
the media reports have been since then he might be
available for the Alabama game, of which I think I'd
be surprised if that's the case. But I mean, Miami
of Ohio was one of the MAC teams that, unlike Buffalo,
got absolutely pillaged in the portal, especially offensively where I
think they lost. They had like a cal offensive type

(54:38):
of portal getting decimated, and so to not score any
points makes sense to me. The Badger defense looks fine,
but I think the whole team comes down to chip
going from the dairy raid to a two to three
tight end offense and one off is really tough to do.
And it's really tough to try and say a lot

(55:01):
of positive things about that well.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
And and you know, you talk about all the uncertainty
of opener and nerves and all those things, and then
you lose your quarterback and you spend all your camp
thinking it's one thing, and then you're down to your backup.
So it's hard to really read too much into their
opener because of that. But it's it's interesting, what is

(55:28):
this here four for Fickle or for us?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Same as Matt rule, and.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
It's like he's still trying to figure out what they are,
who their identity is, what they wanted the program to be.
And I I don't you know these ones in non
conferences are now Bama Mutwell, yeah, they you know, they
have to get as many way as a can as
because of that schedule. But I I just I'm curious
to see as this season unfold, what they what Fickle

(56:05):
wants them to be, what's their identity, what are they
gonna kind of when you watched Wisconsin. You know they're
going to do this? Well, like, what is that?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Right?

Speaker 3 (56:13):
At this point in.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
His tenure, they still don't know. And that's what they
don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
It's it.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, they do it against Middle Tennessee State this weekend
at Camp Randall. Maybe the Raiders. Ye, the Blue Raiders
are coming to Madison. All right, what did I want
to get to next? Burnsey? It sounds like you got something.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Well, I just wanted to say. We spent a lot
of time talking about quarterbacks, and I don't know that
we mentioned that. With Max Brosmer making the fifty three
I think who was a cane rob? I think he
was the one who found the stat Do you know
when the last time was a Gopher quarterback made an
active fifty three man roster? And who was it?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I saw this, I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
So tell us what it was, Cory.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
So it was Corey's in two thousand and two because
Adam Weber, Tanner Morgan, and Mitch Ladener were all practice
squad practice squad. Yeah, and then Marquees Gray made an
NFL roster, but as a tight end. Yeah. So for
the first time in twenty three years, a Gopher quarterback
he was on a fifty three. Also shout out to
Nick callerup making the fifty three man roster. The former

(57:19):
Wizeta walk on tight end who earns a scholarship becomes
a starter for the Gophers. Now Minnesota has three NFL
tight ends on fifty three man rosters, plus Chips favorite
defensive player from last season, Danny Strigau, is also on
the fifty three man for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So that
would be six players from last year's class that are

(57:40):
all on fifty threes. So it's a heck of a
it's a heck of a class. Again, I'll say it,
I think that team last year underachieved because it's not
every year you get to see six Gophers from one
draft class make a fifty three.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, I mean it's it's I mean it's impressive when
you saw the list of guys that made the fifty
three that prickly went undrafted. But we mentioned in a
couple of weeks ago, I think Flecking his staff does
a really good job of developing talent. I mean, how
many of those guys, Danny Strugwan, you know, callup, what
did they come in as their stars? I mean, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Right tallor up. I don't even think we have star
ranking on I think Striga was close to a four star.
But again to I was surprised. I think we all
were that Brozemer wasn't drafted considering what he did against
Big ten competition. And then Striga was a multi year
starter and so was Cali Up. So again three NFL
tight ends for your Golden Gophers now, which is interesting.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, that was a cool moment that when they ran
through all the slides of all the players, God, there
are a lot, and then you go all the way
back Eric Eric Murray is still rolling around. You're ten
for Eric, the guy you never think about the guy
because he was just kind of the soft spoken dude
that just bald who was a.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Good player, a really good player.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I still remember sitting in Jay Savel's office talking about
him in twenty twelve, basically that we think this guy
is gonna be really good and to see him because
you got all these guys that we all remember, and
then Murray, it's like they don't even have like a good,
like four K photo of them because one doesn't you know,
one doesn't exist. He's been gone. So long. That was

(59:15):
a great moment. Then when you knew Brozemer was gonna
be last, and he was, and then they go to
the end zone with him and Cashman and everybody does
the skull. That was awesome. I mean that was just
that's where it's cool, Like that's where it can really help,
like just Gophers locally, like with the with the fans
and the observers. Like I might be too optimistic about it,
but to have people thinking about the Gophers because of

(59:37):
what Brozmer has done and being a part of it,
I think that that was really cool. That was a
really cool moment.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Isn't it interesting? Uh Brosmer's popularity.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yes, yes, Well, everybody loves a backup quarterback. They're everybody's
favorite player to be I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Yeah, But but with Gopher fans, it's it's there's something
I don't know how to explain, like organic or for
a like cool about it, like, yeah, this guy game
here one year and it wasn't like they went to
the Rose Bowl or do these things. I mean they
had an okay season, Yeah, but he has and part
of because you know, made the Vikings fifty three in

(01:00:18):
the hometown and that's I know that's a big part
of it. But the popularity that guy has with go
for fans right now is pretty cool to see.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Well, you know why because he made him fun to
watch because the ball was flying all over the place
and he made big plays in a couple of those games,
right you beat usc when the past to beat UCLA,
like even the Michigan comeback, he was slinging it all
over the place. I just think people enjoyed watching him.
And then every time he you know, says anything, he's

(01:00:49):
very thoughtful. We had him on the podcast, right we
all interviewed him a million times. Like I think that's why, Chip,
because he made him fun, he produced, and he seems
like a good dude, which are easy to to get behind.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah, or even like what was the jersey he was
wearing on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Night, Drake Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
So he's wearing a Drake Lindsay jersey saying against it. Also,
the guy I mentored and I'm here for him in
his first career, start to support him and he's on
the sidelines and I'm sure they were talking. It's like
he's an easy guy to root for. It. Also, Chip,
you haven't even brought up The biggest thing with Max
Brosmer was what was your question as I was sitting
right next to you after the Wisconsin game to PJ.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Oh, Yeah, he changed change.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
He changed PJ him and Harbo, Max Brosmer and Greg
Harbow got PJ. Fleck to change, which is a very
difficult thing for that man to do. And now you're
seeing Drake Lindsay be able to reap the benefits of
that throwing thirty eight times in the opener. So it's
it's tough not to be positive. I guess around Max Broser.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Max Brosmer walked so Drake Lindsay could run? Is that
the next future and might have to be. Max Brosmer
walked so Drake Lindsay could run. All right, we don't
want to go too much further here. Let's do real
quick twitch. Because we mentioned a little bit of Alabama
and Florida State, we mentioned a little bit of l
s U. I was hoping for more from the Bill

(01:02:11):
Belichick era. Yeah, seriously, I mean, obviously he figured out
TCU for the first drive, and then I don't know
how long Michael Jordan and Lawrence Taylor stayed with Mia
Hamm and everybody else that was there, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I was, It's so funny. I was, you know, I
was covering the links last night, got the watching noo.
But I I saw Twitter after the first drive. Yeah,
this is like a statement drive by Bill Belichick. This
is North Carolina football. This is great. And then I was,
you know, concentrated on a game, wrote my column. I

(01:02:47):
get in the car to come home and I have
the game on the radio and is still going on,
but they had it was in a studio and they're like, people,
we're gonna have to call in a question, Well, this
is this mistake. Are they gonna what happened? You're talking about?
This is gonna tarnish his legacy and this thing's outright disasters.
They'll always have the first drive.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I guess it reminded me a little bit of the
first drive of the NFC Championship game after the Minneapolis
Miracle when the Vikings went right through and I think
Keenum found Rudolph Todd left the end zone, and I
just remember being in the I was in the radio booth.
Oh good for me, Burnsy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
With those multiple game balls in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I was in the uh, by the way, I've got
I'm gonna have something else here in the next few weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I'll see if you guys justin guards.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I don't know if it's gonna be a game ball,
but it's something else that's kind of interesting. But I
remember all of us, remember the Super Bowls in Minneapolis
that year. I remember all of us in there, I
basically arms folded like this, and we're just like, not,
like this is a rap, Like I can't believe that
the super Bowl is coming to Minnesota and the Vikings
are going to be in it. First time that's ever happened,
because it was it's the oldest cliche in the book,

(01:04:00):
but it was hot knife butter just right down the field.
And I'm just thinking, that's what Belichick and Michael Lombardi
and everybody were thinking on the sidelines last night at
about seven eleven Central time, Like they thought we couldn't
do this. They thought we couldn't come here and replicate
the Patriots model here in Chapel Hill. What do you

(01:04:20):
think of as now? And then it pretty much just
imploded the Best War after halftime, when first of all,
Herbstreet gets caught on a hot mic saying they're bad
as they're either coming back or leaving break and then
he can't even finish the sentence the first possession of
the second half, saying, this is a big drive for
the North Carolina defense, seventy five yard touchdowns. Like I know, people,

(01:04:44):
I'm not one that wants to pile on. I liked
the idea. If Bill Belichick wants to coach, go ahead
and do it. Obviously, it's been a gong show with
his girlfriend and the interviews and the distractions. It doesn't
seem like Belichick is the same guy he was maybe
ten ten years ago. But I'm not gonna pile on
as much as some others, including the TCU player that
instagrammed their live stream last night. The Bill needs to

(01:05:07):
call his girlfriend after that. I'm not gonna pile on.
I'm not gonna pile on. But it was it ugly
is I didn't even know what the word for disastrous, cataclysmic, pathetic.
I don't know what the word is. They're getting booed
at home in the third quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I think the only solace or cool moment would be
Brad Johnson's kid last night.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Who why is it he's starting?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah? I mean I think he was the starter a
year ago. Well, I don't know about his mobility after
the injury he had Minneapolis, but yeah, him to be
able to come back. And then I saw Brad in
the crowd, of which have you seen the photo of
Brad Johnson. He's got like said yes again Quarterback Dads
on Netflix when that series comes out, My royalty check

(01:05:50):
better be in the bleep and mail because they're all
just so interesting. But he throws a touchdown to his brother,
of which then I saw the joke and it's the
only one I'll make here on Twitter on behalf of Guardsy.
Max Johnson is the quarterback's name. He is the same
age as Bill Belichick's girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Wow, Wow, Wow, what was the school back game?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
It was fourteen, yeah, because at one point it was
forty one seven and somebody made the joke when his
girlfriend was seven he was forty one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Yeah, and it wasn't true. He's like he was fifty
something like it was older, I think, But you know,
I read uh Ross Dellinger from uh Yahoo his he
had a big takeout. He was down there just talking
about the money that North Carolina has spent invested on
that football program. I mean, they were all in and

(01:06:42):
so I I'm sure there's some nervousness going on at
that university right now, considering the money and the and
you know, Pete Thamill and everybody was there. They're talking
about just the buzz that was going on around Chapel
Hill and everything. You know, Jordan and Lawrence Taylor and
Mihaim and all these celebrities were coming in and then
to fall flat like that. I don't know that you

(01:07:03):
can have a worse debut than what that was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
No, that was it. I don't even know who they
played this weekend. Somebody can look at us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Charlotte, Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Okay, good luck, good luck. So there was that thought
on the Northwestern State Demons before we get out of here.
They snapped their one thy twenty two day losing streak
because they hadn't won a game since November of twenty
twenty two. They won twenty to ten last week an
FCS team out of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
They storm the field and everything to celebrate that program.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Well, I do like it. I mean people so learning
more about them, you know, the program was in complete shambles.
A couple of years ago, they had a player killed,
possibly by another teammate. They had drug problems. You know,
they basically shut their season down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah, the forfeit the rest of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Yeah, because they basically just said, we're not doing this.
The program is a mess. So Blaine mccorkyl, which is
a great football name. You feel like he should be
on Friday night Lights, you know, with you know, Red Murdoch,
he leaves a successful program, a Division III program to
come to I'm going to try to pronounce this the
Natchitochis Chip. You're kind of from the South, yea, the Natchitoches,

(01:08:17):
You're kind from Natchetochis, Louisiana. And he says, why in
the world would anyone, much less someone who was comfortable
in his previous job, leave a successful program in Mississippi
to take over the troubled program in Natchetochis. That was
the question, and his answer was, why would any coach
in the world not want to be the head coach
at Northwestern State right now? If you're a coach and

(01:08:39):
you're coaching for the right reasons, why would two hundred
and fifty people not applied for this job? Where else
in the country is there a better opportunity to speak
into the lives of young men right now than Northwestern State.
I love this guy. Wow, I love this guy. So
that those are my thoughts on on Blaine mccorkyl, because yeah,
nobody wanted the job. And he went he said, this

(01:09:01):
is from a year ago. That's how deep my prep
goes burns they August twenty third, twenty twenty four. He said, yeah,
why not if you're in it for the right reasons,
go make a difference, Go make an impact. And you know,
he said, they practiced winning last week. They basically did
a scrimmage and pretended like they won, and they had
to go back in the locker room and like celebrate
and do all the stuff that they do because they
didn't know how to do it, and now they do

(01:09:23):
because they got that victory for the first time in forever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
It's it's a cool moment for them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I'll say, if they're asking me about the All twenty
two and who their players are, I don't know any
of that. I mean, I'm just one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
With the utmost, with the utmost peace and love here.
This should be a I mean, this should be a
game in which sixty players play for the Gophers. And
but do you know how many other FCS opponents in
the previous eight years Minnesota has played.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I'm gonna say three. Kip Chip, how how many years?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Uh, we'll go the eight years of PJ Flack previous
to this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Previous I will say half four.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I don't know four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
So they've played three previous FCS teams. They played South
Dakota State in nineteen, West Illinois and Rhode Island before
This will be the fourth FCS opponent. Just wanted to,
I don't know, make a comparison here. South Carolina has
played an FCS school in every full season since twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Thirty, so there has been thick Today, the rain in
the Twin Cities is getting You shouldn't be this grumpy
and crotchety.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
It's week one, baby, ready to change our best. But again,
it should be a beautiful day on Saturday. Like if
if folks with young kids are thinking to themselves, I
want to catch a Gopher game this year. This is
the one one Yeah eleven, am kick, It's going to
be sixty five degrees sunny, like go buy go, buy
a cheap ticket, let them run around, go watch the

(01:10:54):
Gophers score forty five points, like let them get indoctrinated
into Gopher football in a game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
This agree if you're if you're looking for a low stress,
hopefully environment, it is games like this for sure. The
second game the last few years, Saturday at eleven o'clock
has been it's almost a tradition now like the first
game week too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Across college football is it's not very good this week,
you know, the Saiha games good, and then Michigan's at Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I think, but there you put any bes merch on
Illinois having to travel to Duke to take on that team.
I did see that we might have to talk about
that game next week because there's not a lot. There's
not a lot on the Big Ten docket. As Chip mentioned,
all right, real quick, final minutes. I you just said
the over run er. You said the number.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
I think the number was about the same for FCS
opponents that the Golphers have played. And how many times
I was heave crying Saturday watching College Game Day, which
we did get to watch the whole thing obviously because
the Gophers didn't have a game, And I actually tweeted
right after the open I'm not emotionally prepared for the
next three hours and I and even a couple of

(01:12:01):
nights before i'd watched the documentary or I guess the
tribute show that ESPN did for Lee Corso after a
million years on College Game Day. I thought the whole
thing was great. I thought the whole day was great.
I thought the features were great. I love that Fox
also carried it on Big Noon Kickoff first class, but

(01:12:21):
by everybody, like, that's just such a good idea. It's
just such a good idea. And the fact that they
did it in the shoe and had you know, the
band spell out Corso and then that whole scene is there,
and it was. It was awesome. The whole thing was awesome,
and we all hate it because, as we were saying
before Burnsy, you know, when Corso's someone's been a part

(01:12:44):
of your life for thirty years basically, right, Maybe more
than that, it's a reminder that time stops for Nolan
and we all get old and our time on this
earth is, you know, is infinitesimal. It you hate to
see kind of these passages of time. But it was
I thought, just really well done by everybody the whole weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Yeah, I think for especially a younger guy like me,
thirty three years old. I think the best I think
thing I saw on social media about it was two pictures.
It was one of a young Homer Simpson and then
it's like of the adult Homer Simpson and they're watching
the same man like you grew up watching League Corso.
And to see him go out like that in which

(01:13:25):
all the eyes on were on him, and I think
the numbers came out with that was among the most
watched at least final hours of college game day they've.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Ever had, yeah, over five million million.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
And for him to nail every single pick hilarious. Yeah,
I mean, that's that's the way it should go. It's
the stuff that Chipwrit's columns about.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Yeah, it was interesting. Uh, I didn't get to see
all game DACS. I was writing at Darris Taylor Coom,
but I had set my alarm to to make sure
I got the last fifteen minutes of it. But it
was interesting in the seeing some clips on social media
of years ago when it was him and Herb Street
when they were a lot younger, and then you realize, gosh,
I've been watching this a long time. Think about what

(01:14:09):
I mean, Herbs looked like he was thirty or you
know he probably was or twenty. I mean just how
long they've been a tandem and been together. And you know, uh,
it was cool to see him ended where he began
it right, made the first pick and and and for
for the bandits spell of Courso, and then him to uh,

(01:14:32):
you know how you knew it where he was gonna
go obviously, yeah, and pick it. He's like Texas is
number one. Yeah, uh, you know to put that on
and and get the standing ovation. I'm glad he got
to go out that way. And then you're right to
go six for six on his picks, I mean want

(01:14:52):
to walk off, you know what, absolutely because you had
to pick Florida's I mean obviously his times be florreest state,
He's probably gonna do it anyways, but be Alabama. And
then he had Miami over Notre Dame, which was a
great game of all that. But yeah, you just realize
to me, it hit me when I saw the earlier
e clips when they were a lot younger and they're
in the studio before they were out traveling. It's like, man,

(01:15:15):
I've been watching this show a long time and it's
been a big part of my college football experience.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
It's a big part of everybody's and just how TV
is now. I mean, these guys changed it. Courso changed it.
You know, he's you know, McAfee even said it, like
because McAfee's like, you know the Corso fill in now right,
I mean, he's essentially now the theatrics of the show.
And you know, of course nobody was doing that before

(01:15:40):
he did it. You know, the craziness, the zaniness, the
Dick vital stuff, like we talked about the Charles Barkley
stuff like it's show business, baby, it's entertainment, Like yeah,
I mean, yeah, you know he's walking the Bison and Fargo,
I mean, and then I even had a friend of
mine text a picture when they came here for that
game against Wisconsin and Corso's walking, you know, in the

(01:16:03):
freezing cold that day, and he stops and there's a
little seven year old that's got a bunch of gopher
stuff on the once to high five, and he's got
a great video of him hitting him on the head
and going go gophers and then just walking off like
that's like that kid will have that the rest of
his life, you know, like and so many, so many
towns and the great part about game days. They started
not just making it about the blue bloods. Of course

(01:16:25):
it's going to be about the blue bloods at the
end of the day, but that they they've been to
the Dakotas multiple times, right, not just for NDSU, that
they've done FCS that they you know, obviously everybody had
the list of the places that they'd never been. Minnesota
tragically was on that list for a long time, right
with you know, Kansas was on there, and you know
Duke and all these places. He just touched a lot

(01:16:47):
of people, and it was I thought, just so well done. Yeah,
but you do I miss the old days though, I
do miss the old day. I mean I got the
pencils right here. I mean I can do it. You know,
you miss the old days when he when he was
at his best. Yeah what And obviously when you have
a stroke and you have health issues and he's ninety
some years old, now, it's just it's not You're not

(01:17:07):
gonna be the same guy. Because other people also said
I wish they wouldn't do that to him. It's like,
if he wants to do it, screw it, let him
do it. We can all hit HERB Street's there to
help him through if he's having trouble with another great
offshoot their relationship. I'm rambling, but it was just I
just thought the whole thing was great.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Any other final thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
I don't think I got much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
I hope Burnsy and I take care of Chip as
well as herb Street took care of course, as we
as we get another thirty years in the on the pod.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Well, we're gonna lose Chip to the Smoky Mountains before
that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I know, And we're gonna ask him, are you gonna
have broadband in your Smoky Mountains to go? What's broadband?
I don't even know if broadband is. I got five
g I could. I guess I could do a stream yard. Yeah,
because we should still keep it going when Chip's done
shoveling snow in five.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Ten years, and as long as you got something coming
that's still for us, Chip and wherever you are.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I think my moonshine, uh Moonshine, Breakfast Man's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Good Living, Chips, Discovery TV show, with those moonshiners.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Out there, it'll be good. All right, Come see us
on Oak Street if you're there. What about nine to
forty ish? I think We're gonna move burns you away
from the band. We've been doing the pregame hit chip
right when the band comes through, and it's funny do
you you kill always good?

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
H It's like symbols sound like they're literally I mean
you're in headphones like guards.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Yeah. No, So we're gonna we're gonna finally get smarter
and I think move burns you away from right when
the band comes right by us. But come see us
on Oak Street. We always love it, and make sure
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