2025 Week Two Review: Gophers Dominate, Taylor Hurt, Cal Preview, Iowa Struggles

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard recap (kind of) the Gophers blowout win over Northwestern State, discuss the Darius Taylor injury outlook, preview an interesting game coming up at Cal and spin around the Big Ten with a look at Iowa's struggling passing game.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need a Pair and a Spare. Thank you. PJ.
It his time for another edition of the Pair and
a Spare podcast. I'm justin Guard from Kfan. We've got
Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot com and Chip Scoggins
from the Minnesota Star Tribune. We are presented as always
by our great partners at Jack's Cafe. Real quickly, Guys,
Jack's Cafe, I don't even know if you know this, Chip.

(00:22):
Jack's usually gives us their tickets, right. They usually give
us those two tickets that are right down there in
the end zone, and we give them away to a listener,
and they usually bring a lot of times they bring
a kid, sometimes they bring a spouse, and it always
creates a great memory, right along with the parking and
everything that goes with it. So I got the text
from Bill after the episode posted on whatever day that
was Tuesday, and said let's do the tickets again. So

(00:45):
I text Burns E I say what are we going
to do? And then I just kind of forget about
it as I want to do classics. So Saturday morning,
I pull up my Gophers app because I said, well,
I'm gonna do this quick and just give these away
if somebody wants to come down. It's a night day,
eleven o'clock should be easy to get in and get out.
I discovered something. Jack's Cafe doesn't just have two tickets.

(01:07):
Jack's Cafe has six tickets. And Bill gave us all
six tickets. So three different people or pairs got to end,
you know, right away. You know, the old joke is
if you leave four Twins tickets on your dashboard, you're
gonna come back, the glass will be broken and there'll
be four more left there. That's an old joke, but

(01:28):
it's still a good yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Within seven minutes, we had three people say I'm in.
I want to bring my son, I want to bring
my wife who's pregnant. I want to bring this guy
who loves Goldie. And so they are also very good
seats again lower level, I should add. So I just
wanted to off the top say thank you to Bill
and Jack's Cafe because three different sets of people got
to pop in and watch what was an electric game?

(01:53):
And Chip, I know you have a lot of thoughts
on the Northwestern State game. What were your three favorite
things that you saw in that game, Chip.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well number one is one Bill did probably the three
people that got to go, the three different That was
my three favorite things. Because I told you guys, I
didn't cover that game because I knew what was going
to happen. You just, I mean it was obvious there
was nothing that was gonna be able to be gleaned
from that game the ole.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I mean you couldn't.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't say nothing's pointless, but they would have been
had been more competitive if they had an intersquad scrimmage, right, yeah,
So I didn't want to, you know, And then I
was I wanted to watch Iowa Iowa State, which is
the same time as as Gopher's kickoff. So I taped
the GOP game. As like I said, as I texted
you guys, I fully intended to watch it afterwards. And

(02:41):
when I checked Twitter and it was a million to
nothing after one quarter and a million and a half
to nothing at halftime, I said, it was worse than
I thought it was gonna be. I'm not going to
waste a second, you know, of my beautiful Saturday rewinding
to watch, you know, an intersquad scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Basically what it was Burns the favorite.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Here's my takeaways.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
My favorite line from this game is going to be
for whatever you think of Northwestern State, of which I
would agree the three of us don't think much of them.
Imagine being alcorn State, the team they beat by ten
points in Week one, watching that and being like, how
bad are we? How bad are we that we lost
to this team that is down fifty nine to nothing

(03:23):
at halftime?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yep, you know what the thing is.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean, I saw a lot of the commentary I
guess you'd call it on Twitter about who they're playing,
and a lot of teams play. The second week of
college football season is sort of a dud. You have
this big build up and there's good games week one.
Week two is when you kind of schedule these games.
A lot of teams, a lot of powerful teams played

(03:46):
FCS teams. I don't know anybody played SES teams this port.
You know that's this downtrodden, I guess is the word
to say. Ideally, if you want to play an SES team,
you play one better than this, so you you know,
get a little something out of it. But I understand
the circumstances where they the game got changed and they
were in a pinch to find someone, but it was

(04:10):
you knew going in that that your backups are going
to be playing by the first quarter.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I guess it's good neutral field chip the Gopher's
opponent in Northwestern State or your Tennessee Valls playing East
Tennessee State this past weekend.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I would say probably tsue. I can't imagine there's a
worst team that.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
There has to be. If Northwestern State was one and no,
the worst, the worst team, the worst thing that I've seen.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The Gophers play in my time.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm sure they I'd have to think back, but it's
probably the weakest that they've played.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And what's fascinating to me also is that I think
the Gophers sixty six points were the sixth highest scored
in the Big Ten this past weekend.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
At shutouts to shut us, I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Just and here's here for context, because you're right. I mean,
there's no putting varnish on it. It was a waste
of everybody's time. And Darius Taylor got hurt, so you know,
you know, he could get hurt in any game, so
that's you know, kind of irrelevant a little bit. But
you really just like my key for the Fox nine
pregame show is making a clean sheet, and Pierre said,
you mean they need to shut him out. I said, no,

(05:14):
I don't care about that. They mean they obviously did.
I just don't want to have a bunch of injuries.
And Darius Taylor, Jalen Logan Reading and zay Von Bryan
Emmanuel Carmo all left the game at various points. Two
of them didn't return. We'll see about if Logan Redding
could have I don't know, we'll see. But yeah, it's
just it's too bad. I think more of these games

(05:35):
are going to go away in the new college football.
And one of the things is people have been saying, well,
like you said, schedule a better one. There really aren't
that many great ones, first of all. And I was
reminded of this when I went on dom Izzo's show
up in Fargo, w DA Y from this very chair,
love Dom, love Dom, great guy. This North Dakota State

(05:58):
does not have a power for game this year and
the reason people got sick of losing to them, and
you know the contracts that were done ten years in
advance in the Craig Bowl era, after they you know,
beat Iowa beat Kansas State beat Minnesota. I think they
lost to Colorado a couple years ago, but it was close.
Uh and maybe Deon Sanders first year, people finally got

(06:19):
smart and said, yeah, you know, the plucky team from Fargo,
We're not scheduling them anymore. We're not going to do that.
So even the Bison, the Bison are like they were
even saying like that used to be it was their
super Bowl most besides winning the FCS championship because they
could go invade some town that if they weren't smart
college football fans didn't know what was about to hit

(06:40):
them and come away with a victory. And they don't
have that. I don't know if they have that next year.
I'm sure maybe they do. But so I think that's
just one factor or one rebuttal to say, hey, it'd
be great and Minnesota wouldn't have scheduled them, of course,
But that's kind of the that's kind of the way
that it's been going here recently, is these better FCS
teams are not getting the calls that they used to

(07:01):
come make a million dollars and maybe beat your team
on your own field.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, Jack Rabbits nor the Bison are ever going to
get a call anymore, because there's no upside if you're
a big ten, big twelve, whoever the team is. If
you beat them, it's oh great, you were supposed to.
If you lose a taha, look at you. So they
do play North Dakota. I think in two years time,
three years time, the Fighting Hawks will come down for
a couple of games. So they do play a regional

(07:26):
FCS opponent. If the argument is we'll take on a
Saint Thomas team, okay, take on that D three iteration.
I will never say a positive thing about Saint Thomas
on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
By the way, Oh wow, should we unpack that guy.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I refuse to talk positively about the Tommies. And that
game would have been just the same as it was
if the Tommies would have come into honey to Bank Stadium.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Be careful during basketball season because you know Chip is
trying to write Johnny Towers next book, So be careful,
be careful. He's a great guy. He is a good guy, but.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
He's a phenomenal human being.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
And their new stadium, by the way, looks real nice.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, we were all over there.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
That looks good. Looks like a nice Ballpark. It should
be pretty cool. All right, Well, we got Burns's bitterness
out of the way. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
The the Bison only have one power for game left
on their schedule in the future here, and that is
a twenty twenty eight game out at Oregon.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
But I'm sure Dan Landing is doing everything he can
to probably get.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Out of that problem a couple of years ago too.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
The problem is I gotta imagine you have to pay
them million plus.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
What is a million dollars to the University of Oregon.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, but what I'm saying, yeah, exactly as anybody's money.
But that that's the you know, that's the embarrassment that
comes with losers, like well we just saw it. What
did uh who lost the army and had to pay him?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
You know?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Or oh, in state, can't state paid him?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I mean, remember when I mean armies.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's not bad.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
But that's like when you lose to a s CS
team and you have to pay him a million dollars,
they take your money and your win.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know, that's that's not good.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
So yeah, I mean those teams and this goes back
to remember when it was an appy state to beat
Michigan they were were fcs right with one double A
at that point?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, and Network.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I remember I think they had a tough time
scheduling teams after that because teams like, no, we don't
any part of that. You know, was that did that
come before after NDSU started beating teams or is it
kind of signing.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That was before that was like two thousand and six,
thousand and seven somewhere in there.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's it's.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay you play an SCS team, it's you know, it
shouldn't be a huge challenge for you.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
But again, I go back to.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I don't know what you you glean from that if
you're the Gophers and you just you know, it's disappointing
that that Taylor uh injured his hamstring, if that's what
it is, I assume, But that can happen to first
carry against anyone.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
So it's not like he was in.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
The fourth quarter of or blowout and you can hit that.
I mean, this was the first quarter, and you know,
you're still going to play your starters, even though you
probably didn't need to, right, You're still going to play
and to give him some raps.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
So if you're looking for a detailed breakdown of Gopher's
Northwestern State. I couldn't even get through Gopher GRIDIRN radio burns.
I tried, and I've fallen asleep like five times, and
usually it's only like three times, as you know. And
I don't think what.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
A blowing recommendation for my dulcet tones right.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Now, but you know it takes me usually two nights
of listing while I fall asleep to get through all
of it, and then I'll maybe pop it on in
the car as well. I don't think I'm going to
go back to the Northwestern State breakdown. You can text
me if there's anything.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I definitely sure you and many other people will skip
this one, and I understand why.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
But as you know, that is my favorite college football podcast,
including this one, so I give it my highest recommendation.
But this week maybe you can sample some other things.
The headline is the Darius Taylor injury, which we'll see.
I would to me there's no chance he's playing this weekend,
no matter what the hamstring injury is, right, if it's

(11:09):
a small one, a mild one, or a major one.
Leaving the game in the first quarter never returning. PJ
continues to say they've gotten good reports and they have
gotten good news. He didn't leave the field at all.
There was no ice on it, which we saw it
to practice a year ago, right when he heard it there.
But what's kind of your reaction and your outlook here,
Burnsy for running back one and his future availability.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
It's certainly unfortunate, and the narrative going into that game
was Fleck, what are you doing? Thirty carries twelve on
the final drive, and then on the first offensive drives
fourth carry, goes off the left side, should easily get
into the end zone and gets to about the five
yard line and grabs for his right hamstring. I don't
know how much to read into the things that you said.

(11:54):
I think you can read into him that he goes
into the injury tent, comes out, has a long kind
of coversation with PJ. Fleck ninety seconds worth during a
TV timeout, never takes off his pads, never puts ice
on his hamstring, which hopefully means that we've seen and
we talked about this Sunday morning and go for football

(12:14):
Sunday guardsy. We saw Jaylen Logan Reding come out of
the locker room with ice right Darius never came out
with ice, and we asked PJ. Fleck about it yesterday
at his media and he talked about how and I'll
use a specific quote, got some good news and the
injury report will come out two hours before now he

(12:36):
continues to say this whole good news bit or in
other direct quotes from him, he said after the game quote,
it doesn't seem too bad, which is really good. We
got a really good positive diagnosis on that. So the
hope would be it's just a tweak. And if it's
just a tweak, if you want to be mister glass
half full, he's probably fifty to fifty for the game

(12:58):
this weekend, if you want to Johnny Raincloud, we've seen
Darius Taylor battle hamstring injuries before now. The one last
year in fall camp was his left hamstring, not his
right hamstring. That happened on August thirteenth, and he returned
I think September seventh, so three to four week deal.
I would say that if this is a significant injury,

(13:20):
of which we don't know anything at this time, media
doesn't get to watch practice and Fleck refuses to give
injury updates, if this is a four to six week
injury flex vernacular around continuing to frame it as positive
in a tweak is not going to age well to me.
But if Darius cannot go, I do think you're going

(13:42):
to see a running back committee of the Marshall kid,
AJ Turner, the Washington grad transfer Cam Davis, and you'll
also see the red shirt freshman Feme edge of Boy.
You'll see all three of them, I think mix in
pretty consistently against cal. But Jip, what's your reaction?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, I I think you need to be smart with it, right,
I mean, good news can mean anything. Hey, it's not
season ending, could be just a couple of weeks. I
mean that's frum open ended. It could mean you know, anything.
So Pj's not going to be forthcoming with injury. So
it's it's you have to read into a lot of this.
But I think you'd be careful with you be cautious.

(14:19):
Known as history and hamstrings are tricky. You know, even
the good news will sometimes take you know a while
to feel better and feel you know, like yourself and
ready to face the big ten.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
So if he sat this week, you wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
And with a bye week on the horizon, that is
a critical part of the analysis with that, Yeah, because
as the training staff knows that he can have twenty
one days to rest up for Rutgers.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
If it is just a tweak, that's it.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, and so you have that advantage with that coming,
you know. And in terms of behind him, I think
you're right, because from all we can tell, I don't
think there's an RB two a clear cut now Turners.
You know, I think his experience and I like his explosiveness.

(15:05):
I think he just has to, you know, kind of
figure things out a little bit. But I think he
has that burst and we saw that in camp, like, wow,
this guy has some some explosiveness to him. But so
I it seems smart that they would share those carries
because all those guys I think are capable, and you
want to get him as much experience as you can
in case because you know, injuries happened in a position.

(15:25):
I mean, what was the year they got down to
like the fifth tailback. I mean, so, yeah, it's unfortunate,
but you know, I'm not gonna knock PJ for playing
a running back in the first quarter. I mean, even
though it's even though it's an inferior opponent. Yes, you
could have said him that can happen the first drive
this week. I mean it just you know, you got

(15:47):
to get you know, it had nothing to do. I
don't think with with the opponenting thing. It's it's you
want to get those starters, some reps in a game.
So disappointing, but hopefully it's not too bad because you know,
as we saw in the open, Darius just makes he's different,
He makes his offense.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Versatile.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
If you want to put on the narrative street hack guardsy,
is that why you were smirking. I've remembered the narrative
which was half joking but half serious, and Chip reminded
me of it. It's an odd year twenty twenty one
RB five by October that was the Kai Thomas and
Bucky Irvings season. In twenty twenty three, Darius gets hurt.

(16:28):
They're on RB five thanks to Sean Tyler and Bryce Williams.
Jordan Nubin is getting two hundred carries by the end
of the season, and now twenty twenty five, it's an
odd season. Here comes the angry running back God down
on the Running Back room again from Minnesota. I was

(16:49):
mostly joking when talking about it all off season. But
I just remembered this is the third straight odd year
where odd things are happening to that room guards you.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
A good thing. Derek la Captain's back for a seventh
year because he had to take carries in that Northwestern
game when Bryce Williams I think, broke his ankle after
a really nice run. So does this means.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Grant Washington, who's RB five, who ran for one hundred
and twenty six yards.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Who looks good by the way.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Which was three times more than the total yards by
Northwestern State on Saturday, is going to see time by October?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Boy do?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
I hope not? But this is why they tried to
mitigate by bringing in better transfers and Turner, who is
going to be an early down back if you want
to do Viking comps, which is a horrible thing to do.
I think AJ Turner is more of your Aaron Jones
type on early downs, where Cam Davis is more of
a between the tackles runner like Jordan Mason. I think

(17:46):
Feme is kind of a mix of both. So I
really hope that Darius is healthy sooner than later, especially
with all the vernacular that Fleck is tossing around about
promising and good news, but I would be rise like
guards if we do see him this weekend.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, what's the name of this podcast, Fellas? I mean,
there's no accident. You gotta have a pair, and you
gotta have a spare. And in twenty twenty one they
needed the air.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
And twenty three they needed the air. And I really
hope we're not pulling up to a quick trip going
up to the free air dispenser right October.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, we'll take sponsorships though, by the way, if any
gas station wants to help us out or any car
dealers tire shop is fine as well. The other thing
you were concerned about all off season, Burnsy was defensive
line depth, right, and you loved who they had at
the beginning, and I think that's been, you know, proven
accurate with how the defense has played through the first

(18:42):
two games. Certainly the defensive line is extremely disruptive. Anthony
Smith looks to be everything he's supposed to be. Right
the Jayalen logan ready, you know it kind of gets
cut ends up. The good news is they did put
a brace on his knee and get him back out
on the field at least, right he obviously did go
change at half time, But I've been around long enough
to know that if they're putting a brace on your knee,

(19:04):
that's better than putting ice on your knee. And so hopefully,
even if he misses this week, that's not a long
term thing as well. What are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I watched him come out of the injury tent and
he went over near the defensive line and was doing
get offs and trying to see how much stability he
had on his knee. I know you saw that as well.
So the fact that he came back out and was
doing things like that give me optimistic it's going to
be a short term thing, not a long term he's
going to miss the season type of injury. But if
you don't have him available, who's he's your starting three technique?

(19:36):
Things get a little bit more complicated.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
They did bring in Roushawn Lawrence, who you've seen some
flashes from in the non conference, But when you have
a three four year starter like Jayleen Logan Redding get
cut from the backside, which he did on that play,
certainly seems like they avoided the worst case scenario. But
their defensive tackle depth is very thin to me, and
we're going to find out a lot more if jail

(19:59):
R can't go from guys like Rushawn Lawrence and Nate Becker,
and we'll see if they mix in some other guys
there as well.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is there anything else we want to talk about, injury
wise or otherwise before we get to just Drake Lindsay
continuing to look pretty solid in his eight his nine
attempts and just kind of spreading the ball all over
the field. Anything else? I know, Chip, you don't have
any thoughts on Northwestern State, which I'm not judging you for,
thank you have other things going on. Others might burnsy?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Might?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I understand? In fact so much. When it started to rain,
I said, I'm going up under the underneath the tunnel.
I don't have my rain gear. And so I stood
underneath the tunnel with some other Gopher staffers by the
way and just kind of watched it from the end
zone view. And then I felt really stupid because Brady,
the outstanding equipment guy comes sprinting over and hands me

(20:49):
my rain jacket that they have for me. It's like,
come on back, buddy.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like, ah, do your job.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm like, you came all the way over here. Brady,
Why did you have to do that and make me
feel like the smallest person in the world. Really nice
rain jacket, though, I will say, but.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
As John Nester looked like, yeah, watch tape, which was good.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And I like his competitiveness. I know PJ used that word.
I like the fact that he's he's just kind of
on one all the time, which I which I appreciate.
And we wondered about him a little bit, didn't.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
We We did, And I think he's gonna face some
better tests here in the coming weeks. But he doesn't
lack confidence in corner to try and be Minnesota's version
of Cooper Dejeen, Riley Moss, Jason Seahorn, whichever one of
the three you'd like to pick, Chason Seor He does
not lack confidence. I mean, he's got his whole I'm

(21:41):
not entirely sure what the handshaking thing is. I'm too
old to understand that reference with the youths and all that,
but I think he has certainly looked the part through
two weeks. But now they're going to be tested against
Cal this weekend.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Let's get to Cal. I know they've got a quarterback
that committed to Cal. Then committed to Oregon. Now he's
at Cal and he's just a freshman. By the way,
all that happened before he even went anywhere. I watched
a little bit of the Oregon State game. I haven't
locked in on the rest of it. I'll do that
a little bit later this week for constant preparations for
heading out to the Bay Area. But what do we

(22:17):
know about I know you know a lot about this offense,
burnsy and what left it in the spring and what
they're left with now. But I'll say the quarterback. I mean,
you don't have to start a true freshman quarterback if
you really don't want to. Maybe Cal did, but they
also had an Ohio State transfer, so he did beat
a guy out for this job. But what do we
know about him? And what challenges does Cal present?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
His journey to get to Cal is the perfect epitome,
I would say of recruiting in twenty twenty five, where
he commits to Cal, signs with Oregon, and before he
even goes through springball. I believe he hits the portal
and comes back to Cal.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think he went to one of their playoff games
on the and then decommited. Didn't he isn't that this Well?

Speaker 4 (23:02):
He signed in December, watches some games for them, Yeah,
and eventually hits the portal before he even goes through
springballf I'm remembering the story right to come back to Cal.
Very bizarre type of situation. I think part of that
is because Cal lost their entire offense, of which I'll
get through. I also cannot wait to hear Mike Grimm

(23:24):
attempt to enunciate this name, because I've been trying here
through the first forty eight hours of the week, and
I'll give it my best shot here, Jaren kiave, I
got this last name, I promise I do. It's song
you will pull a tell song of polo song you
Polo Telly, I've nailed it. It's it's a mouthful, but

(23:46):
former top one hundred overall recruit in the last recruiting
cycle is six foot two lefty. Look the part against
Oregon State was making some good throws and he is
the straw that stirs the drill for that offense. As
let me just give you a brief glimpse of some
of what I'll be talking about in the GI game preview. Chip.

(24:07):
Here's all of that col loss from last year's offense.
They're starting quarterbacks at Indiana. Their top two tailbacks are
at Oklahoma and Ucla. Let me take a deep breath
here for pause. Their tight end is at Texas, and
then the following receivers are now at Nebraska, Indiana, Ucla,
and Oklahoma. This is me saying they had a great offense.

(24:31):
Plus they're replacing four starters on the offensive line. That
was a good offense from last year's team. If everybody
in the portal wanted.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Them, why didn't they win a national championship year with
all those five teams?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Ray, It's not like these guys are going to the
MAC or FCS. I mean they're thinking step.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Going to legit programs. They were awful in one possession
games last year, which talked about it Monday. Sounds a
lot like a team last year that had six guys
now in NFL fifty three man rosters yet only won
seven regular season games because they weren't very good in
one possession games. Now, defensively, they're really good. Justin Wilcox
is a strong background on the defensive side of the ball.

(25:10):
He's their head coach. They're much better defensively than they
are offensively. Which is why the game total via Las
Vegas is sitting at about forty one to forty two points.
There's not a lot of points expected in this one,
and the Drake Lindsay versus JKS freshman quarterback battle is
gonna be very fun to watch in a Pac twelve

(25:31):
slash AC Slee slash Big ten after Dark type setting.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean, even though they lost all that talent,
they're still.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
A power forwar.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
They have a legit defense, and they have all quarterback,
which you're gonna be able to be in so many games.
If that's going to be the case.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, it's your you know, first row game going out West.
I mean, all those things that come into play. But
you're gonna have more talent, I would think, and and
so you should be able to, you know, particularly on
your defense going against that offense Anthony Smith in that line.

(26:11):
Hopefully Joe Logan reading is available, but get pressure on him.
Make that freshman uncomfortable. I mean everything people talk about
that the kids really talented. You know, they saw the
first two games. So but this is where that defensive
line needs to show up. Create those opportunities for the

(26:31):
back end. Ester Coley carry Brown, those guys to have
some some turnovers. So but it's it's you know, it's
you're you're stepping up in competition from the first two weeks,
and so this is an opportunity and on the road
to see what you know this These new guys for
the Gophers have shown some things in the first two weeks,

(26:53):
but this is a step up in competition.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Let's see what they do there.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
It's a four hour flight, it's Minnesota traveling to the
Pacific time zone, of which it's a very odd thing.
And I'll give some more context with this. Minnesota under
PJ Fly is three and ozero in Pacific time zone games,
they beat Oregon State, Fresno State, and UCLA. Now very
different fashions in all three of those games. We all

(27:15):
can agree. But the other stat I looked into last year,
and it does it's not a perfect comp because nothing
ever is. When you look at Big Ten teams last year,
chip who traveled two or more time zones is the
road team. There were twenty eight games of that instance
last year. Can you guess how many of those teams

(27:36):
won when they had to travel two or more time zones?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, because that that stat came up a lot last
year and it was not very good.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
We talked about it last year.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
It was not twenty eight games. I know, as a
losing reck. It wasn't very good.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I can't remember. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm gonna say ten teams.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I was going to say eight. I was going to
say eight.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
There were six and twenty two. Wow, in twenty eight games.
That is a twenty one percent win percentage. And for
Fleck to be able to at least have some sample
size of going West Coast games and being three and
always interesting because it bucks the trend, It's a very
small sample. I understand that. But for a nine to
five Central kick, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot

(28:19):
of late practice this week. We talked about it with
on Monday, as much as it is four hour flight
late kick. I mean we even seen Michigan State. I
think next weekend has an eleven pm Eastern kick against
ut USC.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Come on, how are we doing.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
DVR that one Chipper?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Get that one ten Central, I believe, but an eleven
pm for those folks in East Lansing who want to
stay up and watch the Spartans.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
This reminds me of it wasn't a late game, but
I was on the beat and the Gophers went out there.
It would have been two thousand and sick is Kupito's
senior year, right, But that's when they had uh DeShawn Jackson,
was Marshawn Lynch on that team, Javid Best. That team

(29:10):
was loaded. They were top ten I think maybe top
ten team.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That year, and they were really good.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
And I remember Mason's like, you know, because we always
that was the thing Mace got grief for as a
non conference and and they played that team and it
wasn't as lopside, The score wasn't as lopsided as as
the game felt. It felt like Cal kind of left
a lot of points on the board. But that team
was really good.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I remember it was. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It's kind of a weird trip out there. Cool setting,
you guys. You guys haven't been.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Out to that.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I have not.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, it's a cool Yeah, it's a it's a cool
campus and cool setting, so you'll enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, that's where the last two times they played, to
your point, it was Marshawn Lynch at Cal destroying them,
and then it was Javid Best coming coming into Minneapolis
and running for five touchdowns. This is not that offense anymore.
This is a shotgun ten personnel, spread it around, balls
out quick. This isn't a running type of offense like

(30:11):
it was for Job at Best and Marshawn Lynch. So
it was fascinating for Minnesota, who through two weeks their
starting defense has not missed a tackle. Cal wants to
put you in space and make you make tackles. Yep,
it's gonna be very fascinating to see how Dana Collins
attacktas thing is that.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Are they a spread it out play sideline?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
A sidelinette is a kid from you and LV who's
five toot seven.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah, they want to get the ball in space and
let those guys go.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I get it forty two seventeen September ninth, two thousand
and six. As the game Chip is talking about, I'm
pulling up the box score here it.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Is Marshawn Lynch and DeShawn Jackson. Not Job at Best,
but it was Marshawn. And my years are getting confused.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
He'll tell you here in a second.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yep, I'm gonna pull up. I gotta scroll down. Marshawn Lynch. Yeah,
one hundred and fifty three yards, one hundred and thirty
nine yards, two touchdowns, justin for set seven eight yards.
And then it was DeShawn Jackson was on that team.
He had seven catches one hundred and fourteen yards, three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
And who was the quarterback? Was a lefty? No, who's
the quarterback there?

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It was not Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I know it wasn't Aaron Rodgers. Definitely what Rogers it was?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
How could you forget? Nate Longshore was the quarterback twenty
two of thirty one.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
All quarterback name that I'm sure after the game five
minutes after he's out.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Surfing nineteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
All right, old yep. Koupoda was twenty one of thirty three,
two forty three, got sacked a couple of times. Alex
Daniels was your starting running back there, twenty one carries
for eighty yards, and mere Pinnocks in the pass right there,
Jay Thomas justin Valentine.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well would they right?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Legend J Thomas to you?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah? I love Jay Thomas, great family, mom and dad,
great people. What cows their top ten right or around there?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I'm not seeing that in the box score.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, pretty sure they were top ten.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Somehow these two played six times over the years.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think it's because it makes sense for these two
teams to play, because it's what we talked about last week.
It's schedule kind of an equal. Now. I know Cal
was a top ten team there, but I mean, you know,
six that wasn't a step too far for the Gophers.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean maybe when they scheduled that is probably ten
years prior, you.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Know, yeah, prior so, and you know the Gophers that
was Mason's final year, right, I think, yeah, in two
thousand and six, so you know they were good by then, right,
They had been you know, in the top ten a
couple of times, they'd been ranked consistently, so that makes
sense to schedule a team like that. And then yeah,
they came year one or year two of Huntington Banks
Stadium with job at best and whoever else was there.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I know we had five touchdowns that day.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
By the way, I before we recorded today, I talked
with Brock Forene for the Gopher pregame show in the
Golden Gopher Podcast. His brother played at Cal, and he
basically spent every Saturday of his high school career going
up to watch his brother play at Berkeley. So anybody
that's making the trip out there, and I know there
are some even though there's great choices, it's your Berkeley
Columbus Eugene Wrigley if you're a Gopher fan. I mean,

(33:15):
that's like four legit trips. And oh, by the way,
Iowa City. I got Iowa City in there too. If
you want bush lights thrown at your head. What here's
I asked him for the Scotting report. He said, if
you don't have time to go to San Francisco, he says,
Berkeley's enough. He says, Berkeley's a very cool place. Like
you said, Chip, it's a very cool setting. He said.

(33:36):
There are hills everywhere. You will always be walking uphill.
You will he said downhills, said downhills don't exist, because
he goes, I don't know how that's possible. Shorts and
comfortable shoes. And then the other line that he said
that I loved was everyone that lives there is smarter
than you. So just go find anybody at a coffee shop,

(33:56):
at a restaurant. Just go start talking to somebody and
ask what business they've started, and you'll realize quickly how
smart everybody is. He said. The Mexican food there is
the recommendation he would give. But I love that where
he just said hill's everywhere. You're gonna walk everywhere. Traffics
the nightmare, but you can walk everywhere. You're just gonna
be going uphill and every person you encounter will be

(34:16):
smarter than you.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
The greatest scoutrandfather stories where he's walking up Bill both
ways and storm here.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
You know what, you it's funny you mentioned that because
that's the thing I remember, is like it was hilly
wear tennis shoes. Because you're gonna as my Kansas where
a daughter with that's a hilly campus and they call
it the k U calves. You're gonna get the cow
calves when you come back.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I like that. Yeah, I like that. So there's your
Scott and report everybody for Berkeley, and yeah, drink your coffee,
stay up late over under chip on you what's the
betting line of ship making it through the game?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Burnsy, I'll put nine minutes left in the fourth quarters
when Chip at about twelve thirty finally fights it in
the recliner there.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, if it's a close game, I'll hang in there.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
If it's one sided, our record and hit them, you know,
I'll go to bed and watch it in the morning.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
I think it here today for what it's worth, the
Gophers are two two and a half point favorites, and
the Vegas is saying something along the lines of twenty
one to twenty somewhere in those in that range. So
not a lot of points they're expecting out in Berkeley.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
All right, let's pause and we'll go around the Big
ten and talk about a few other things in the
world of college football. I want to thank our great partner,
Jack's Cafe. We mentioned it at the top of the show.
Not one group of people, not two groups of people,
but three groups of people were fortunate enough to sit
in the Jack's Cafe seats for Saturday's game against Northwestern State.
It was a beautiful day until it wasn't. When it rained,

(35:49):
the game was shortened. We didn't even talk about that.
But they've been great supporters of us. They've been great
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We got I think somebody I can't remember who it
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something maybe it was the Gopher victory. Like it looked
like the woman was eating the crembrewle a chip is that.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I know.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Over the weekend too, so we got it.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
We got it twice because there was that one where
the woman was eating the crimberly.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
You see how happy she was to It's outstanding.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
And so all Michael is the one who tweeted us
and said she's also a Hawkeye. So not only is
she familiar with Guardsy, I'm sure at some point their
paths crossed, but she listens to chip yet and gets the.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Cremberl right, So thanks for doing that. And then we saw.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
The the the group photo really said, uh, post game
at Jack's.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
So that great.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You know, I don't know about you guys, but I love.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
When people send us those those photos from Jackson. It
it uh because you know they're having a good time.
You know they're getting a great meal and great service.
So keep them, keep them, keep.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Them coming, make your reservations. There's still time brunch. Even
though we had like this bizarre north shore cold snap
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This weekend, Yeah, summer's back. You know how Burnsy loves
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It's a great setting. Make your reservations at Jackscafe dot
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(37:23):
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by Jack's Cafe. Make your reservations at jackscafe dot com. Well,
let's talk about the game Chip did watch on Saturday,
the Sihawk game Iowa and Iowa State. And what's interesting
is it was usually Iowa is the beneficiary of some

(37:45):
random tipped interception or tipped reception or fumble inside the
minus five, and this time it was Iowa State on
their game winning field goal that got a very fortuitous
bounce for giving bounce on a pass over the middle
that was deflected into the hands of a tight end
about ten yards farther, and they end up kicking a
fifty plus yard field goal to win sixteen thirteen. I

(38:07):
think a lot to discuss from this game, Chipper.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, but Iowa did and underscoring, they had their typical
Iowa Their first field goal came from when the Iowa
State punt returner was like an inch from Colyding with
the Iowa gunner and they called a muff pont.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
They re viewed.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
It to see if the Iowa guy touched it. It
was kind of a typical Iowa favorable bounce. They get
the call, get the field goal, they're touchdown at the
end of the first half.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
They got a penalty to help them. They took advantage
of that.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
But you're right, yeah, Iowa State had a couple plays
here on that last drive, a wild throw that you know,
tipped over and the got caught it. But a lot
of talk about their quarterback Mark Gronkowski coming in from
SCS South Coast State, and I think it was forty
four yards passing in the opener. I think they had

(38:59):
eighty something this game. It is not good there. You
watched them, and I don't. I think it's a combination.
I mean, he's he's gonna take a lot of the grief, obviously,
but he would stand in the pocket and hold the
ball and hold the ball, hold the ball, and hold
the ball.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And it was all game.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And I was like, even sometimes there'd be three men
rushing for man, but they he'd have good protection and
he just would not cut it loose. And I don't
know if he's not seeing the field. I don't know
if his receivers are not very good and not getting open.
I don't know if the scheme is there's flaws with
it or a combination of all those things. But their
offense looks like a typical Iowa offense. I texted you, guys,

(39:41):
and Burns He's like, what year is this. It's like
it looks worse than ever. I thought their defense looked
good and they did a nice job for the most
part holding Iowa state. I will state I think it's
pretty good. I guess some offense, you know Carson from
up here, from Lakeo South to.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
The hard Runner.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Their QB solid, Rocobett.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, and I guess some receivers.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I mean, I think they're a good team defensive, they
shored up some things. I guess you know some guys
along the line now, But Iowa, boy, they I can't
imagine the questions they're facing down there this week. Because
you thought, hey, you got this quarterback who came in
with all these you know, stats and wins and all
the things he did at the ses level. It just

(40:25):
has not translated to their offense. Yeah, and they they
just looked like they didn't have.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
A clueing me real quick before you go. Matt Zimmer,
who covers At least he did for the August Leader.
I remember him from when the Golphers played SDSU wrote
but basically something like close circuits to the Iowa coaches.
You know, uh, he threw for ten thousand yards at
South Dakota State. Maybe let him air it out a
little bit. But then his amendment was but also the

(40:52):
jack rabbit supporting cast might be better than the one
he's playing.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Currently, I don't think the receivers are, you know, helping
them out at all. And you're right, everything was underneath.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
It was short.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
It was like, didn't really throw it. Now he can run,
you see that. That's a big part of his game.
And I think I have a rushing touchdown. I mean,
he's a talented runner. But I don't think it's just him.
Obviously he hasn't played well, but I don't think the
wide receivers in the scheme are helping him out either.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Iowa was without their RB one, they were without their
wide receiver one and then their tight end one. Addison Astranga.
He left the game and did not return, so they're
without some of their best skill position players. But I
will reiterate what I texted Chip, what year is it
with the Iowa offense where the skill position guys aren't
helping the quarterback and the quarterback looks like he is

(41:42):
looking out and seeing absolutely nothing. Correctly, it looks like
he's trying to wade through thick soup when he's looking
out trying to diagnose things, which that was not the
deal at South Dakota State. To your point, he ran
for I believe thirty nine touchdo for the jack rabits
through for ten thousand yards. Maybe get the guy outside

(42:04):
the pocket and let his legs start to help him
a little bit more. Then try to be a statue
within the pocket. But you also look at bo Prebia
down at Missouri, who was the first quarterback that Iowa
was involved with transfer wise in the off season, and
he chose Missouri over Iowa. He looks like the real

(42:25):
deal down there at the Zoo for what he did
against Kansas last weekend. So with Gronowski, maybe the off
season shoulder surgery on the throwing shoulder which zapped the
entire spring, which then trailed into the summer. Is the
rush should maybe have been expected, but to just see
him be the current iteration of compared to what he

(42:47):
was out in Brookings is pretty staggering to me.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
The thing that jumped out to me was just the indecisiveness,
like standing back there and just not really knowing where
to go with the ball. And you know, we don't
get the full picture on TV, so you don't see her.
Guy's not open. Is he just missing him and not
seeing him? It's hard to tell. It's probably a combination
of a lot of things. But it just felt like
there's a lot of indecision, like where to go to
the ball and then they'd throw it short right there

(43:11):
was nothing down the field.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
So yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
You know it it didn't look like a big change
from what we've seen, you know, And I was, you know,
I was thinking about this. You're watching that game. If
you're a fan of Iowa, they win nine games all
the time, right, no matter how it looks. But that's
I mean, winning's fun, but winning with an offense that

(43:38):
really just grinds and struggles and can't you know, and
you're constantly frustrated with it. That would be a weird feeling,
right where you're constantly complaining about the offense, but at
the end of the day you win nine games.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I don't though, Yeah, it's it's hard to describe. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
That's but I think that's how they all feel. They
all just they they're in a weird spot of not
knowing how to feel about it. Yeah, because they can
need to win now. Obviously they just lost last week,
but in general, yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
This his hou's been like you look up and have
nine wins at the end of the season and you're like,
that offense is terrible, but they have nine wins, So
what are you complaining about?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Well, it's it's hard to watch, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
The stat that stood out to me that somebody sent
to me was where are we here? Farence is oh
to ten in his last ten games versus top twenty
five opponents. Wow, which actually surprised me, right, because yeah,
I think about them knocking off Michigan a kinock knocking
off Penn State at Kinnick. We talked about that leading
into the Buffalo game. The quarterback that couldn't get the

(44:35):
snap off after you know, Sean Clifford got hurt, like
he that's been a while now, even though like you say,
they keep winning games and they've been in the Big Ten.
They were in the Big Ten championship game a couple
of different times post COVID that number jumped out at
me that it's oh to ten, because yeah, I just
feel like they it's just maybe my just perception of

(44:57):
what I've watched the last twenty five years. But that's
so that's where I think they're in, this weird purgatory
of how are we supposed to feel about any of this?
And the fact that they've had so much hope now
for multiple quarterbacks, going back to Cape macnamara, what a
big deal that was when he committed right out of
the gate, right and when nil was becoming a thing,
and now with the with Gronowski, like, it's just they've

(45:19):
had so many false starts, no pun intended, thinking that
they finally got the quarterback and the offense thing fixed
and it just hasn't worked out yet. But they'll probably
win nine games this year and to do every year,
and they'll throw, they'll beat the Gophers by throwing for
thirty seven yards and it'll be eleven to nine, right,
like It's just it'd be such a weird like that's

(45:40):
not out of the realm of possibilities, right.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, I do think the defense is pretty good.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
What year is?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
What year is surprise?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Surprise?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah, somehow underpaid at one point nine million dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, surprise s prize. Defense is good?

Speaker 1 (45:53):
All right, So they get they get in Massachusetts this weekend.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Of fighting Joe Harris, Simex come to town.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Baby. Oh that's right. I forgot about that. Narrative Street.
You never miss an opportunity for narrative Street. I'm trying
to think, is there you know the most compelling Big
Ten game I suppose this week for our purposes would
be Wisconsin and Alabama. Right, two teams. Wisconsin, you know,
kind of crushed Middle Tennessee. Alabama. We know we talked
about them. They're kind of a mess right now. My

(46:20):
favorite line of the week was from a woman in
I think Tuscaloosa that said if she wins the power Ball,
she will pay for the seventy million dollars Kaylin d
Bor buy out. She didn't win, I don't.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Think, because I think needs more down there.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, I think it was Texas and Missouri that had
the powerball winners, you know, for the one point nine billion,
But she went on record, I don't know with who's saying,
if I win this power ball, I will personally pay
the Kaylin de Bor buy out of seventy million dollars.
So this is an interesting one to me, right, Like,
we kind of assumed this would be a blowout loss
Wisconsin and Alabama. Who knows, maybe maybe Luke Fickle, you know,

(46:58):
gets his narrative back by going down there and knocking
them off.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, I did you know that the Wisconsin game was
close Saturday for a little bit for a half or.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Clost a halftime. And that's a horrendous middle Tennessee State
team who lost at home by twenty eight points to
something called Austin p a before.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Don't slander my Tennessee teams. Don't slander the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
How many colleges are down there.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah, Etsu, MTSU, Austin p of course, the one that
counts Bandy Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Uh, Tennessee State somewhere in there too.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, Tessee State. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
So I don't I don't you know, I don't know
if they played great or just played the you know,
beat a bad team.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
In the second half and pulled away. But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
I mean, there's one guess what the line is via
Vegas on the Badgers versus.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Bamat say fourteen.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Bama by twenty and a half.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Wow, okay, Wow, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm just you know, maybe I'm
just I don't in the sweater vest.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I don't think, you know. I mean, they did play
Florida State and they look like a team in the
Yopahs so's. They didn't play well and they didn't look
like a typical Bama team. But it's not like they
lost to a bad team.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Uh. So, I twenties a lot.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
But I would be stunned if the Badgeries go down
there and pull off an upset.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
What else do we need to talk about, Burnsy? What
else is going on in the college football world? I
know Chip wanted to talk Kansas Missouri again.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, Alma Mater.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I'd rather get that story because when he explained it
to us and you and I don't think had heard
this from over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I remember it.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, I hadn't heard it. This sounds like the perfect
epitome of college football.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
So why do we love rivalries?

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Right?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
The hatred, the bad blood, and haven't gone to Missouri
and graduate from there. I know that the rivalry of Kansas,
and I'm glad they're playing them even though they're not
the same conference anymore, and renewed that rivalry.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
But so there, apparently there was.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
A I don't know who put on the you know
how they always have this pick a fan, come kick
a field goal to win. Normally it's a student and
you get to throw the balls and try to either
through the hoop or kick a field goal for tuition
or whatever. But I think it was Instagram or read
But twenty five thousand dollars if you could kick a
forty five yard field goal?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Can we pause there?

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Like, can we pause there?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
If someone in the crowd, especially a student, can kick
a forty five yard field goal, he should be on
the team making he's in ten il money.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
That's what do you think he's on a scholarship?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
What a ridiculous contest? I know what a ridiculous because
if the guy kicks a forty five yard field goal,
he's clearly missed his calling. Yeah, he could be like
that Hawaii. Was it the Hawaii kicker that just taught
himself on YouTube? Yes he could be like that.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Guy interrupt Yeah, no, no, the game who won? It
was thirty five, so obviously college just has since passed him.
But you know, caefully so he realized, there's no way
in hell I'm making a forty five yard field goal,
so I might as well be epic with this.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
So he's a Missouri fan.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
He goes out there, raises his shirt as he's lining
up to kick the field goal, has a derogatory thing
about KU on his painted on his chest or shirt,
lines up to the field goal, says not turned, kicks
the ball straight at the KU sideline. He rifles the
ball at the KU sideline, pulls up his shirt.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
It says, you know whatever, KU. Crowd goes nuts.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
That guy is not gonna have to buy a beer
in Columbia, Missouri for the rest of his life. How
epic is that? You're not You're not gonna win this contest.
Might as well go down in glory.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
That was a great game too, by the way, Yeah
it was. That was a really good game. Kansas took
the lead late to fighting Jim Zebrowski's and then Missouri
got a couple of fourth downs right to go ahead
and win it. And I loved what their coach said
that we ask a lot of our fans financially and
with a big time investment in all this. He goes,
it's right that we give them an opportunity for a

(51:03):
bragging rights game like this, because it clearly I don't
know that rivalry firsthand like you do, Chipper, but it
does seem like there's a lot going on there. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's great.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I mean there's a lot of hatred between those two
states and programs, and so when it went away, you know,
when when Missouri went to SEC, is a lot of disappointment.
So I'm glad that they're renewing it because I mean,
this is what those games are what make college sports great,
right right, you know, playing for the acts, playing for
the pig, playing for you know, trophies, to have that

(51:37):
that rivalry got from the stands and kick a ball
at the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
As a thirty five year old too think he's a
full fully grown adult.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I read this story that the Kansi star got the
guy on the phone, and apparently whoever the contest. People
who put it on were like quickly trying to get
him off the.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Field after let's say the from motion staff.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
He felt bad about that.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Fearful from some associate athletic director because.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
He said he felt bad about, you know, duping the
uh the uh.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah. But here's what I'll say. You bring a guy
with no legs out to.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Kicking, Yeah, yeah, that was your thing. He was an
ampute is gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
He had a prosthetic leg and a forty five yard
bring anybody, I mean like forty five yards.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
It was crazy Buffalo. The place went nuts because they
finally got a kicking for chicken winter Chick fil A.
The guy knocked on a field goal and the guy
this week was not quite as good. Yeah, so everybody
got free Chick fil A two weeks ago. They had
to settle for fries this past Saturday. That's hard. Kicking
a field goal is hard, Yes, Like forty five yards
is just that's just insanity. That's just pure insanity. All right, Well,

(52:45):
have a great college football Saturday, everybody. If you need me,
I'll be in Berkeley all day.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Yeah, we got to figure out something to do during
the day. There.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
We need to take a nap, is what we need
to do. I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna change my best.
From UCLA where about three o'clock Pacific, I'm like, oh man,
and I screamed this thought. I'm tired. I took like
a twelve minute nap before we got there. You're worried
about oversleeping, but yeah, make sure you have a plan
like the football team does. As Burns you mentioned. It
sounds like they're practicing a little bit later this week.
It's a different plan. I'm curious about the PJ. Fleck

(53:16):
plan to go out west this time. Apparently it's different
than what they've done in years past. So we will
hopefully get some details on that and we'll see how
it affects them at you know, nine forty five Central
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