August 2025: $10 Tix, Gaardsy Twitter, Burnsie Depth Chart, Michigan, CFP

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard discuss the creative Gopher ticket promotion for the opener, Gaardsy's night on Twitter regarding some of the reaction to that sale, Burnsie's initial Gopher depth chart, the Michigan sanctions and the latest crazy College Football Playoff idea allegedly from the Big Ten.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
A Pair and a Spare. Thank you, PJ. It is
time for another edition of the Pair and a Spare podcast.
I'm justin Guard from the fan. We've got Ryan Burns
from Gopher Illustrated dot Com, Chips Skoggins from Football Across Minnesota,
and the Minnesota Start Tribune. None of us really know
what day it is. We're at that point of the
summer and fall as things are all kind of coalescing
together at once. We're trying to figure out exactly what

(00:25):
time it is, what day it is, but I think
we're about a week away from kickoff. Guys, how are
we feeling today? On whatever day? This is.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
A seasons almost here. I don't know. It's that time
where you're trying to get everything out because everybody starts
remembering that football is eight days away, and unfortunately for
you guards here, I don't know how you view it.
You've also got the great get together starting tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I do. Once the State Fair starts, it's over. It's
completely over. But we're in good shape there.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, it is texting me that his favorite justin Guard
tradition is about to come back, which is you sitting
in the booth being ignored by whoever is talking to Dan,
So you get to live producer life again.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I have an interesting spot at the cafe and
booth where I'm the only one that's in the sun
during our time of the day, and I can't pull
the garage It's actually kind of like where I am now,
the sun's coming into the side and I can't pull
the garage door down otherwise people can't see on that side.
And yet every single guest just comes stands and puts
their back directly towards me. It's a humbling ten days here.

(01:31):
So it's a humbling ten days where I'm reminded that
it's not bumper to bumper with justin guard. It's bumpered
a bumper with Dan Borero and the guests make that,
including Chip in your make that abundantly clear.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I am mindful of when I'm sitting in that chair,
I look straight out to the audience, so I had
peripheral on you and Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I never turned my back on you.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
All Right, we'll see, we'll see if you remember to
think of Chips.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Goggins's very demure, very mindful, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, of course absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, So you're coming out Monday, right,
I think Monday, Yeah, yeah, Monday with so there you go.
And I know burns that you're making some trips too. Yeah.
Come say hi, come say hi, Come bring us food
if you want. I always like it. I always called
the Fair the exact opposite of social media, where social
media everyone just tells you how how you suck all

(02:20):
the time, and the Fair is the Fair is different
where people actually come up and go, hey, I really
like your show. I listen to you every day, Thanks
so much for what you do. So I always feel
great leaving the Fair. It's like a ridiculous ego boost.
And then I turn on Twitter for five minutes that
I'm right back to where.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I start.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Find how you couldn't resist yourself earlier this week.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
All on Twitter? Yes, oh yeah, Well, do you have
something else you want to talk about? Chip real quick?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
No, I'm just gonna say one of my I got
a text for one of my high school basketball teammates
last night. His son actually is in grad school at
the U, and he said they're going to take in
the Fair on Friday.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm like, oh, boy, be prepared.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Look forward to his review, Yes right, look forward to
his review. The fair is fun though, because it's like
I see people from my When you're from Minnesota, you
can share people from your entire life, Like I have
no idea who I'm going to see. I know who
I'm going to see in the next two weeks. I
know the people that come up every year, friends that
come up every year, parents of my friends that come

(03:22):
up every year. But then out of nowhere, like one
of our you know, athletic trainers from high school that
I haven't seen in twenty five years is coming up,
or an AAU tournament. My buddy Taylor from Fridley, who
I haven't seen in like thirty years, is coming up,
and they're all like, do you remember me. I'm like,
of course I remember you. Like this is unbelievable. That's
why it's fun, because you just never know who you're

(03:44):
going to see. I see my entire life in the
next ten twelve days, which is why it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And I'm sure those people come up to you with
about ten seconds left before you go live from the
break that's happened there in chat. Yeah, Dan's giving you
the evil eyes saying we got to get going. Here,
we got get going.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, yeah, that is one that's a fair tradition, the
bumper music running completely through a song because we're talking
to somebody. But that's why it's fun. It's different. It's
a completely unique two days like people. I was asked,
do you like it? I say yeah, because of the
ego boost. Like I just said, it's the opposite of
social media. I get to see people that I wouldn't
ordinarily see in my day to day life, and it's
just something different for two weeks. Then it's one of

(04:24):
the reasons why the job is unique. The only thing
I don't like is getting there every day because it's
a grind. It's a grind to actually get there every day. Right, Well, yeah,
depending on traffic and all of that. But yeah, if
you're coming out, please come say hi. Ask me how
the Gophers are going to be this year. Be the
only one that asked me that. If you show up

(04:44):
during the break and ask you what I think about
the Gophers this year, you will be I will give
you the exclusive on what I think on how the
Gophers are going to be. But yeah, one of that
you wanted to get into what burns ey one of
my little would you call it a Twitter meltdown? Twitter rants? Well,
I think I was pretty restrained. It was clear that

(05:04):
you'd had a couple of I pas.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I would say.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
False, false, There was no Yeah, I don't tweet while
drinking anymore. I stopped that, and I stopped more.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
That's probably a great thing to go.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
That is a good practice.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, that is bad act about twenty eighteen. I stopped that.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Figured there was a side conversation of which I wasn't
a part of, between you and mister Schaggins where I
know Chip was about six seven eight I PA's deep
feeling all sassy up there on the north Shore and
grand Ray.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, yeah, no, I don't. I don't think I had
uh oh yeah, Devil's kettle. That's that's an ip, right.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, you mean the again you kids in your bitter
beer that you try to make cool to make everybody
think you're all types of anyways.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's me.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know that I missed tell me the Twitter miltdown.
I missed it, though I was well set it up.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, if you want to or do you want
me to set it up. I was. Actually, it does
have a topic that we can slide into here to
get the podcast going.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well. I don't know if it was because your children
didn't finish all their vegetables that night, and then you
had a lot of free time because maybe the missus
took them out to some sports events and you had
the evening there on the couch to put on the
Twins game, of which I'm sure you were loving what
you're seeing from Cody Clemens at first base, but you

(06:25):
couldn't resist yourself with trying to poke the bear that
is social media in this day and age.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, every once in a while, Every once in a while,
I do get in that mood. And this had to
do with the big ticket sale that the Gophers did
on Monday. They did a twenty four hour ticket sale
for the opener against Buffalo, and basically the tickets started
at ten dollars, right, that was the get in price
for the game next Thursday night. And let's start there.

(06:52):
First of all, I think this. I don't know what
you think, Burnsey and Chips if you remember, because we've
how many times have we talked about ticket prices on
this podcast in our lives? And I will always like,
in a perfect world, do you want to do this? Like, no,
you just wish that every ticket was sold for exactly
what you wanted to be sold for in perpetuity. That's
not real life anymore, especially in college sports. I just

(07:14):
saw Arizona State has a deal for their opener, who
was in the college football playoff. If I remember correctly,
that if you're a season ticket holder, you just get
four extra tickets for the opener, Like, you just get
them and you give them to whoever you want. And
their head coach Kenny Dillingham's like, yeah, that's what you
have to do, is what you have to do if
you're trying to build, Like I love it. So we're

(07:35):
giving them away, Bring who you want, do whatever you want.
So this kind of always comes up, and so I
give them great credit for saying, hey, tickets are a
little slow for the opener, not a marquee opponent, it's
a Thursday night, all the reasons that we always talk about,
let's do something, and so you can get in for
ten bucks. I think it's an awesome idea. And they

(07:56):
had lower level tickets starting at twenty. You could sit
at MIDI for the few seats that were available there
for fifty bucks, like lower level midfield, they had a
couple of seats for fifty bucks. Great deal, great opportunity,
and it was successful. I know, they hit their goal
on what they wanted to do. And you know that's
an extra four or five thousand people that are going

(08:16):
to be there on Thursday night. Anything you want to
add there before I talk about.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean, I think it's a I mean, it's a
great idea, and we talked about it. I think they
did it in basketball two years ago. Was it two
seasons ago where they just opened up the end zones
for might have been even five dollars.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
But I always said atmosphere is more important in those
situations than anything. And the old argument of well, you
don't want to insult or make mad the people who paid,
you know, the season ticket holder is a full price.
You dont want to make them mad by letting people
in for cheaper tickets. But do you really believe that

(08:56):
when people get to the game they ask the person
next to them how much they spend on their tickets?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Like I maybe water It just it seems archaic that thinking.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So you know, I think it's a good idea and
you're right guards the Ideally you'd get to a point
where in a fifty thousand seat stadium for a home
opener you don't have to or a season opener.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
You don't have to do that, that those tickets will
be gone.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
But everybody struggles with attendance in all sports in today's
because of price, because of convenience, because of whatever it happens.
So a smart idea for them, and I know this,
they've really made a push for their their there's students
to get there for those openers with the freshman being

(09:40):
in there and the students sections has always been good,
but always that that season opener, it's really good. And yeah,
you can get the buzz and excitement from that. So yeah,
I mean it was. Uh, you got to create an
atmosphere and if this is what you have to do
to to create it, that's what you have to do.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well. I'll never forget what you told me Chi thirteen
years ago when I was a young man starting this job.
You came up to me to go for practice and
you said, Ryan, there's three things you need to know.
You don't talk religion, you don't talk politics. And you
don't ask your seat mate how much they.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Paid for their seat.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's right. That was one of my first impressions gospel
true story, true story here. I don't know to you
guys's point, the students, I believe, especially the freshmen, get
in for free for the first game. Yeah, now, I
do know that. Hasn't the student section already sold out
for am I misremembering that for football games already? I

(10:34):
don't know, but I think a certain ticket package has
already sold out. Now I will be the first one
to tell you students drive the rest of that. And
if there's only say forty five thousand people there instead
of fifty, if you have a full student section, you're
not going to notice a difference, really, right. So I'm

(10:54):
all for trying to pack the stadium for games that
aren't Marquee, which you have a group of five opponent.
And I'm sure the eleven AM draw against a team
that hasn't won a football game in thirty three months
is going to be too Yeah, it's going to be
another one where I'm sure they're trying to put people
on the door, But I commend it. Look, we spend
enough time on this podcast kind of lamenting some of

(11:17):
the decisions that Minnesota makes in certain regards, if we
can't also go to the flip side of the coin
and commend them, which we all are here, I mean,
we're not being fair.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
No, And I loved it. I mean, for so many
years we've talked about it. Just you got to give
people a chance, you know, or give people something to
think about, you know. And I loved it. On your board, Burnsy,
a lot of people were just buying tickets themselves and
giving them to people, going, I'll buy four tickets for
forty bucks and give them to people Like I just
it just shows people that you're trying. And so I'm

(11:50):
I'm I'm all for it. And like I said, it
sounds like everybody hit it. So you know I was
promoting it obviously. I know you were retweeting the two Burnsy,
just letting people know in case they wanted to go
or wanted a quick decision because you had a day.
That's the other part of it. I like how they
built in the urgency, said we're doing this for a day.
You want to jump in and buy some tickets. We're

(12:12):
doing this for a day, and then it's done. So
as I was promoting it, people were responding to some
things on social media, Chip while you were bathing in
the waters of Lake Superior. And actually what I thought
was because of everything I just brought up get in
ten dollars lower level, nineteen some seats for fifty midfield.
I think it's the best sale they've ever done. I'm

(12:33):
trying to remember one off the top of my head
that made it more accessible and appealing and affordable to
get people in in decent spots, and at Huntington there's
really no bad seats, So I write, looking closer, this
might be the best ticket sale I've ever seen the
U do get in prices ten lower level available for twenty.
A few midfield seats left in the lower for fifty.

(12:55):
Love it, So that got a few responses.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Chip from outside the borders.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
No, not necessarily, Not necessarily, I think maybe I don't know.
Somebody writes I agree with other posters schedule regional opponents.
Every other major college does it. Somebody else said something like,
why do we have to open with Buffalo? I remember
when we opened with TCU and they were two in

(13:22):
the country and the place was electric. Now I didn't
respond to that one I said, well, as you would say, well, Ryan,
they opened with North Carolina a year ago. They opened
with Nebraska two years ago. So to the one about
the regional opponents, I wrote this, Iowa is opening with
regional rival Albany, Wisconsin with regional rival Miami of Ohio.

(13:49):
And that kind of got some other people going, including
one person that said, don't drag Wisconsin into this. Don't
drag Wisconsin into this. Later, they're playing in Alabama. What
about the Gophers dot dot dot crickets, to which that chip,
I just tweeted the release from gophersports dot com that

(14:09):
announced that the Gophers are hosting and playing Alabama in
twenty thirty two and twenty thirty three. There was a
few more somebody else, you know, I said, Iowa plays
Iowa State every year. I said, yeah, And a lot
of people don't want them to because they can't go
to cal in three weeks, they can't go to Colorado
three or four years ago. They can't schedule the North

(14:30):
Carolina because they're already they've already got their power for
So I don't think I chose violence. I just chose
I was. I was very sarcastic, and I guess, matter
of fact about the schedule and realities of everybody. And
I guess I was just trying to be educational to
people that still somehow follow me but don't understand what

(14:51):
college sports are.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Any any reaction, Well, I mean, yeah, the non conference
schedule is always gonna, you know, create uh conversation, but
it's across the board, play one power for and then
you're gonna have two other from uh lower levels. I mean,
that's that's typically. If the Gophers do that, I think

(15:14):
you should be satisfied, whether it's Colorado, North Carolina, cow whoever.
You know, you said Alabama in what eight it was it?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Seven years?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, Well, even.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
If you're scheduling one team starting, that's right.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
If if you're scheduling one like I don't know what more, Uh,
nobody's scheduling three.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Of those not on purpose?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
No, I mean that's just that's just not I mean, heck,
what is the conversation we heard all summer between the
Big Ten and the SEC about UH schedules and playoff
and all that. So No, I mean it's you know,
week two. Would you want to have a little bit
better opponent than that?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yes, but.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're playing a pretty good Buffalo team that people where
they picked fourth in their in their league and cal
which power for. You know, I don't really see an
issue with the DON Conference other than the Week two.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Other than the Week two.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, the Week two is is weak. I mean,
that's not a great opponent obviously.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Then you get the nine conference games versus the eight
conference games of the SEC, of which Chips Tennessee volunteers
get to play the following powerhouses this year. Chip, what
was Have you ever been to East Tennessee State University?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I have, I don't even know where that is East Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, hey, turn turn around on that map behind you. You
can see it. It's East. Yeah, it's easy.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
We have E T s U, M T s U.
You know, you know a M T s U is
Gophers played them when ten years ago? Maybe something Middle
Middle Tennessee, Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, you've also get my favorite SEC tradition, which is
the mid November game. Again Who New Mexico?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, U A B. That's typically the November game, that
one with the SEC.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'd never understands why you break up your conference schedule
with just a layup out of conference.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Right, Yeah, but so I go as an opponent thing
like you do get something. I think North Dakota's on
the schedule in a few years, but even next year,
Mississippi State comes to town, and then in two years
Gopher fans get to figure out a way to get
to Starkville, Mississippi, which I think is going to be
a lot like getting to Purdue or State College in
that aspect. But I mean, what are we doing here

(17:44):
guards what do we do well?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think I think what triggers me is in my
old age, I've gotten really weary of just like old
recycled talking points that you just throw out there with
no basis and no education and no information that's correct,
where you just go their schedules so weak. Why would

(18:06):
anybody even care that other schools do this? It's like, no, no,
some do. I mean, just like a month ago, Indiana
just canceled a bunch of non conference games and said
we're we're gonna do what the SEC does, which, by
the way, I don't think was a fair comment by Signetti,
but it was like, so, I guess every once in
a while, because I mean, you can imagine you guys

(18:27):
both have Twitter, you get things where you just go,
are you just not paying attention? Are you just or
do you just not want to? That's what bothers me
because I think and part of this might be the
you know, the the observer versus fan rant that I've
you've heard me go on forever. There's so many people,
including people that I work at my station, that just
say stuff because they've heard it or they like it,

(18:48):
and it is no fact in reality, basis in reality.
And I guess I just every once in a while, ago,
I'm just going to do the well, actually for ten
minutes here while I'm sitting, while I'm sitting at my
kids hockey. My favorite part about the Alabama thing was
guy is all proud of himself about the Alabama Minnesota crickets.
I just post the link. I haven't heard from that

(19:09):
guy like no one ever has. And I know I'm
asking too much for someone to go. Yeah, I guess
you're right. I guess you got me on that one.
That never happens. So again, why I do it? Why
anybody does it? You're never gonna win. But I guess
I was just trying to sleep that night. At least
I did my part to try to educate people that
apparently think they're you know, Phil Steele experts on college

(19:30):
football scheduling.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well, that's where as the guy who runs the message
board here. The thing I'm finding more and more, especially
here in twenty twenty five, is there's either two categories
of people. Now it's are they actually being genuine and
don't know or I think the category that's gaining steam
is something called rage baiting, of which they know what
they're doing and they're trying to get you upset, to

(19:53):
get you to crash out, of which they will think
is funny, and then they will send it to their
friends who they I think we'll think it's funny. Yeah,
So that's where that's what we have to deal with.
And I know everybody's playing us the world's saddest song
on the smallest violin. But it's trying to decipher in
this day and age of just characters on a keyboard

(20:15):
or on your screen or whatever it may be. Should
I answer this person's question or are they just trying
to be a hooligan to be a hooligan, or you.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Could take my approach, just not respond. Don't look at Twitter.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, I've on the internet when I was a beat writer,
I lived on it. I can promise you right now,
I don't and I don't sure you can say whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I do not care you are better off liked.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I do not care.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I understand the second that I don't have to be
on Twitter at all for work purposes, I will not be.
I I just won't be. I don't I And since
I've stopped rage tweeting the people in twenty eight and
tweeting while drunk, my life has been better off. But
every once in a while, as Kirk kirk Street always says,

(21:07):
every once in a while, the animals at the zoo
bite back. Yeah, and so yeah, that was probably the
first time in about a year I've actually really engaged.
And I don't even do it really. I just laid
out a couple of facts, including the Albany Great Danes
coming to Kinnick Stadium Labor Day weekend against the Iowa.
How guys, So anyway, good job by the you to
get more people in and Burns. You nailed it. Not

(21:31):
every game was sold out last year at home. They
all felt like sellouts from my vantage point on the sideline,
because of the students and because of just the overall
vibe of the you know the fan base. Now, we
talked about it all all the time. Last year the
building was electric and it wasn't sold out every single game.
There were a couple, but so I think it's gonna
be a great atmosphere and good good on them for

(21:53):
not just saying, well, nobody's coming. You know, nobody's coming.
Minnesota fans don't show up. We wish we could get
out of the Thursday night game. It's like you gave
them something to think about and a lot of people responded.
So I'm that is Hopefully that's a trend, and hopefully
people go and have a hell of a time and
want to go back, because it's that's the point of

(22:14):
it too, right, give people a taste of, Hey, I
haven't been to a game in a while. This was fun,
and I want to come back. Maybe not to Northwestern
State at eleven o'clock on September seventh or whatever that is,
but maybe when they come back off that col trip,
I'll check out Rutgers or I'll check out you know,
Michigan State, whatever it is. I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
It's the one beauty of television contracts to me is
ten years ago when we were all doing the same
thing we're doing now, except didn't have microphones in front
of us. What did the Gophers have seven eleven AM
games and now this year they're going to have maybe
maybe two, right, and they have it at least for
this home slates, Chip, They've already got three night home games,

(22:55):
including the opener.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Don't remind me.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, whitch I have fun with deadline for you and
all that and everything that entails. But they're trying to
do different things to get people to get butts in
the stadium because the reality is, guess what, it's a
lot easier to sit at home and watch this thing
on TV and not drive down to the stadium. Deal
with Chip's favorite thing, which is what parking. And then

(23:20):
it's it's an uphill battle for any administration across the country.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
In every sport, in every sport exactly college and professional.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
OTHERFL.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, NFL has no issues. Obviously. The Wolves have done
really well. We'll see how the Wild do this year,
you know, especially if they don't start very well. But yeah,
I loved it. Whenever I see a good ticket deal,
I do everything I can to amplify it. Because we
how many times we talked about tickets in the last
fifteen years, either on the pod or off. Anything else

(23:53):
on that before we segue into some actual football talk.
By the way, follow me at Guardsy on Twitter. Let
me know your thoughts on everything I say. And Yeah,
I really wish I would have heard from that guy
that was so proud of the Wisconsin Alabama series. But
I didn't hear back from Maybe he didn't see the release.
Maybe I have to t sweet back at him. I'm
not sure. All Right, this is a big day for Burnsy,

(24:16):
a big week for Burnsy because after watching three practices,
which I know he's first of all. Also, if you
feel like you're behind, now, imagine if you had all
these practices to cover how behind you would be? Burnsy,
Like they do you a favor, they give you the
gift of time, and you're still out of it, Like
you're complaining about how you don't have any time to
do anything. Well, imagine if they had ten open practices

(24:37):
for you, you'd be screw You wouldn't even do this pod.
So I think you should be thanking Minnesota for not
opening so many practices. That's just me. Uh, but you
did three. You did the depth chart, your projected depth
chart for the offense and defense. People can read it
at gopher Illustrated dot com. Anything you want to plug
on about goph Illustrated dot com, Burnsey before the season starts,
any anything cool that people should know about.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
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I think would be an outstanding thing to take advantage of,
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Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, Chip won't know about this because he doesn't know
about streaming services, but it's paramount plus I think is included, right.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
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little sad to me for remembering my days or where
the boys used to text me and say, hey, it's
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(25:37):
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Speaker 2 (25:47):
All right, go for Illustrating dot Com there can we start.
Do you have any place you want to start, Burnsey,
I have a couple of thoughts, but any place on
your offensive depth chart, something that you know piqued my
interest in any place you want me to just go.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I will follow you into the abyss. It's good. Captain.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, let's start with wide receiver and then we'll maybe
go to offensive line. And you have Lamechi Brockington, which
I don't think is any surprise people. Hopefully he stays
healthy this year and can be productive. He has one
of the most infamous catches and go for history at
Camp Randall a few years ago. Javon Tracy transfer, Logan
Laya transfer. I know Daniel House is high on Logan Loya.

(26:24):
I listened to Gopher grid Iron and you had some
fun with that. Yeah. But then there's the interesting one
and the one I think we're gonna spend maybe some
time talking about it, the fair and beyond. Jalen Smith,
the red shirt freshman. Everybody including you, is high on
this kid, and it sounds like he's gonna get a
legitimate opportunity to jump in there and be in this mix.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, receiver this year is interesting, of which I'm curious
to find out. Everybody remembers last year, Daniel Jackson, Elijah Spencer,
they have played about every down, they got, all the targets,
they got, all the reci eighty plus percent. Now both
are gone, and now the talking point all offseason has

(27:07):
been we're gonna rotate five six guys. You mentioned four there.
Koy Parritch is still somewhere getting a couple of packages
each game, But it's how much do they rotate and
who gets what role? Because the way that they use
someone like Logan Loya, who's more of a slot receiver
that you're gonna see on third down in the red

(27:27):
zone places like that, is going to be very different
than Jalen Smith, who all he does is catch very
long flowsive I mean at every practice I'm at he's
catching these these long passes. And then you watch what
the Gopher football team puts out on their social media's
same type of thing. So everybody's gonna have a different

(27:48):
type of role. And I think like a Javon Tracy
and Lamechy Brockington can help you in the intermediate game.
But I don't think there's a single player on the
Gopher football team that will catch over or forty passes
this year, and that's Darius Taylor included. Now, I know
Darius caught fifty two passes last year. I just think
you're gonna see a lot of different players catch between

(28:09):
thirty and forty passes, and Jalen Smith is among that.
Man Cato West kid who red shirted last year, and
I know that he is my I call it my
proverbial Brevin span Ford annual breakout pick where I'm nine
years too early and we're saying this about a red
shirt freshman who hasn't caught a pass in a game yet. Yeah,
but you listen to what PJ. Fleck has talked about

(28:31):
in somewhat comparing him but not trying to compare him
to guys like Corey Davis or Rashad Bateman in that aspect,
because what does Chip's favorite head football coach always say,
guards to get comparison, steal your joy.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Well, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I went to two practices and they're not going to
show you a lot, But in two practices, that's aw
the kid catch three sixty yard touchdowns. I'm not noticed
that even for Schmoe's like, yeah, I'm not Vince Lombardi,
but when a guy catches three sixty yard touchdown passes
and two practices, I go to you take notice of
them and striking resemblance.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
To be honest with you, I know that's.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Right, get the old hat going. But I asked PJ,
was it last week?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
We're out there, and the thing that really jumped out
to me and watching the practices is offensively, you see
Jalen Smith speed, you see Coy Perrits, you see AJ Turner.
They've added some real explosiveness and some home run ability
I feel like on offense. And and and PJ said, yeah,

(29:35):
he said last year they're basically like three guys you
knew were gonna get the ball.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
They felt what do you say? Was he felt like
there's like triple that number this year?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
But he said, people don't know Jalen Smith, but they're
going to find out about him real quick. So clearly,
if he's done that in two practices, and we've get
to imagine what he's done in all the practices the
play so you know, I think it's pretty obvious that
that young guy is jumped up and basically demanded playing time.

(30:03):
With how he's performed in camp.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
They've done nothing to throw cold water on the Jalen
Smith's team, and they've had every and Fleck has at
every opportunity to do so over the last say the
last month, you know, some cold water from Lake Superior,
whatever it may be. But I think to the point
that you originally said guardsy, I mean there's four guys there,
plus I do believe Cooy Parritch is going to have

(30:27):
a role now, the Koy Pirich offensive role. I will
continue to say if I set the over under boys
at and to give more context here, we've seen Dave
Revsen from BTN compare him to a Travis Hunter type
of season. I think that's crazy. But I saw Jake
Bud from BTN to kind of compare him to the

(30:48):
Jabrill Peppers role from Michigan a few years back, which
was Jabrill Peppers paid about it was fifty snaps in
two years. I would say, which side of this? I
think we talked about it last week. But if I
set the over under for Koy Parrits offensive snaps at
one hundred, which comes out to if you play thirteen games,

(31:10):
say roughly eight a game, are you taking the over
or the under on Cooy Parrits one hundred offensive snaps
over over.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And would I would I would say ten at least
ten a game.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, I mean ten a game is basically two series,
you know, series a half if you're doing it right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, because you're gonna get You're gonna get what sixty snaps,
sixty sixty five snaps a game.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah. So I just my worry with Koy is we're
expecting him to play fifty plus snaps a game on defense. Now,
Danny Collins talked about yesterday or earlier this week, I
should say that he feels this is as deep of
a safety room as they've had in his time at Minnesota,
of which that's Carrie Brown, Naden gooseby Garrison Monroe. So

(31:57):
if Koy needs a series off because as he's doing
stuff on offense, and oh, by the way, we're also
expecting him to be a game changing return man, yeah,
and try to help Minnesota gain some field position there. Like,
I'm very fascinated to see what we think he's going
to be offensively, defensively on special teams, and then say,

(32:18):
by the time we get past the Rutgers game, how
they've actually deployed him, Because that I think is one
of the fascinating early storylines.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, I'm fascinated how it's going to change throughout the year. Like,
do I think he should get Should he get twenty
five snaps against Buffalo or Northwestern State on offense? Probably
not right, I mean, you do want to save some
bullets in the chamber for when you get further down
the road. And so so I'm curious to see how
that kind of morphs, how that changes, because I do

(32:47):
like I like the idea just reading what you've written
about all these guys Burnsy, you know, whether it's Tracy
or Lawyer, and Tracy in particular, like they've been productive,
like they were productive at their previous stops, right, it's
not like so you know, and I think some of
that stuff translates. And you think about Elijah Spencer coming
from Conference USA. It took a minute, but like eventually
those numbers that he had as a freshman translated here, right,

(33:10):
like Tracy's numbers should translate pretty well right from the
MAC to the Big Ten. So I like the fact
that it seems like they have a bunch of guys
that can help him out. Now, if Max Brozmer was here,
I'd like it even more because he can get from
progression one to seven in like two point two seconds.
Can drag lindsay do that? Right? Is he going to

(33:30):
be able to see all these different options as quickly
and as easily as as Brosmer did. That's going to
be the other thing to figure out as we go.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Well, you know, going back to coy.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
As much as you'd like to get the reps and
see it, you really think Pj's going to show his
hand in the non conference of how they're going to
use him.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I mean, you save that for conference or the real
wrinkles for conference. But they have a lot of guys,
and PG talked about they feel like they have triple
the number of guys that can contribute and you know,
really have a.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Be someone that can rely on.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
But I don't think you can realistically think they're gonna
hit on all of them right.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
There's gonna be different.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Some guys are gonna be ready right away, some are
gonna take a little bit more time. I don't think
you can expect the best case scenario across the board
on all these new guys. So that's what this you know,
that's what this early season is about, sort of figuring
out who you have and who you can trust in
game situations. It's great to see it in practice, but
they need to figure out what it looks like in

(34:33):
a game. And so I'm curious to see the approach
in the non conference in terms of run pass, trying
to establish that, you know, that kind of continuity and
what you are as a passing game, because they know
they can run the ball, I think, right with with Darius,
I mean, they didn't run it effectively last year when
they always needed it, But I do think they have

(34:56):
a really talented group of running backs with the guys
they brought in the here with with with Darius, But
you know, they need to establish that too, coming off
of what they did last year. They need to show
that they can be a more effective running game. So
it it feels like they have a lot to figure
out and uh kind of work on in the in

(35:17):
these early you know, in the non conference games, and
I'm just curious to see what the approach is with
Harbo and Fleck in terms of how they go about that.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Well, you'd imagine if if we're Greg Harbow, the offensive
coordinated for Minnesota, you'd have to approach the Buffalo game
of Drake Lindsay needs to go out and not necessarily
win it, but you need to test him significantly because
you're not going to learn anything against Northwestern State and
then you don't want to travel across the country to
cal Berkeley for a nine to thirty PM kick and

(35:47):
be like, we still don't know what we have in
the quarterback because I think Buffalo, to your point, is
a nine to win MAC team. They're going to be
very competent. I mean they return nine defensive starters at
least for Drake to look against. So if I'm Harbow
in that opening game, I'm absolutely testing Drake. But I
would also say, here's your nugget going into next week's

(36:07):
put the carrot out there ahead of the Buffalo preview.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I got my pen.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Do you know how many carries Darius Taylor has in
the opening game for Minnesota and each of the last
two seasons.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, last year he had zero is zero? You can
play Nebraska he had like two or three he had one.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, essentially, you haven't had Darius Taylor for the opener
and each of the last two seasons, and of which,
by the way, your offense has sputtered to start where
last year they scored seventeen points. Now doesn't help in
your kicker misses two field goals from inside of forty five.
But they have amassed I think two hundred and fifty
one total yards is the most between Nebraska and North Carolina. Like,

(36:47):
they have not started strong offensively. I asked Harbo about that.
He doesn't think it's going to translate. He just thinks
they need to execute better. But I think testing, Drake lindsay,
next week is going to be something that is going
to be very important for not Northwestern State, but if
you're going to go out and beat Cal at Cal,
which this isn't Aaron Rodgers and job at best and

(37:07):
Marshawn Lynch out there anymore, but you're going to at
least need to test the red shirt freshman a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
And who will be blocking for all of these people?
Drake Lindsay. The running game that Chip talked about, it
was not good a year ago, and some of it
was skewed even I always think about some of it
was skewed by you know, Darius Taylor just making something
out of nothing. You know, a couple of different times,
how do we feel about the line earlier in the
camp Burnsey. I know they were dealing with some injuries

(37:36):
up there, including with the highly touted Nathan Roy. So
what if we figured out are gleaned on how that
whole thing is going to shake out.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think the interior of the offensive line is going
to be better than what it was last year, But
I'm worried about tackle. I mean, I'd be remiss if
I didn't say that, because you're going to be a
downgrade at left tackle, going from the highest drafted offensive
lineman in my lifetime with Arianta Erstrie, a high second

(38:05):
round pick to the Houston Texans, to a red shirt
freshman and Nathan Roy, who has yet to start a game. Now,
he is highly touted, he's got prospect pedigree. Yes, people
around the facilities they think he is has a very
very bright future here in the Big Ten. But he's
going to be starting his first game in the Big
Ten as red shirt freshman. And then I think right

(38:26):
tackle it's going to look very similar to what it
did last year with Quinn Carroll as Dylan Ray is
an experienced SEC lineman, is over a thousand snaps played,
but guess what a majority of those were at guard
for Kentucky, and now Minnesota is doing their favorite annual
tradition of playing a guy out of position at right

(38:46):
tackle that should probably be inside. It's a tradition that
spans from now Dylan Ray to Quinn Carroll to Daniel
fall Leile. You could probably go back even further. So
I'm worried about tackle just because it's so difficult to
slide out a guard to tackle, because you need to
have foot speed, athleticism. Ben, Look, I'm not Mike Tyson.

(39:09):
I don't need to bore you with the offensive line
attributes here. But Minnesota doesn't have a ton of guys there. Now,
maybe Khalide to Fi the Washington transfer, as he continues
to get more and more into shape, becomes more of
a factor as the season goes on. But they're just
very thin there at tackle, which if you have an
injury there, I mean, there's not a lot Harbo can do.

(39:31):
Besides every play you're going to have to keep in
a tight end to Chip or running back to Chip,
whatever it may be. But they need to keep Drake
Lindsay upright. And then this is a unit with five
new starters now ashen Beer's and yes Greg Johnson are
kind of just flip flopping positions. But we've seen in
the non conference that they struggle to gel early on,

(39:54):
which is also why I think in the last Actually
I'm staring at the stats now, they've only run the
ball in Game one for one hundred and thirty four
yards combined on the ground. That's against now, that's against
Nebraska and North Carolina. But that's like their tailbacks running
for three point four yards per carry, which is an issue.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
And that was probably maybe the most alarming thing about
last year is just how ineffective they were. Inconsistent they
were along the line.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I mean, there'll be.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Stretches where they would play pretty good, You're like, Okay,
that's more what you expect, and then they would have
games where they there was basically nowhere for Darius to run.
He was getting hit at the line or behind the
line all the time.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Uh, you know it just.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
I know, I'm tired of talking about it, just like
you are. But it would be maddening to watch them
run the ball against USC and then go out to UCLA.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
And not run it.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, run it well in Champagne, and then not run
it well at all in Piscataway, and it didn't make
sense as to what because.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
It all it just felt like that was always something
you'd count on. They'd be a good offensive line, right,
no matter what was happening around him, their offensive line
would be solid. I mean that's something just sort of
took for granted, I guess, but yeah, I mean I
I I would. I can't sit here and speak as
eloquently as you can about the offense line.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I just don't know about these guys.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
To me, that is the as much as we talk
about Drake it and everybody, you know, everybody asked you about, Ah,
there's a big question marks with this uh, with this
team because of the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I would say, don't stop there.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
It's almost like you feel like you know more about
the quarterback even though he hasn't played, than you do
the guys around him, you know, and and uh, some
of the you know the unknowns are are you know,
you have guys that have even a wide receiver, guys
that have played college football and have pedigree in numbers.
But it's like until you see it in the in

(41:47):
a Gopher uniform and in a Big ten, you don't know.
And so the same thing with the offensive line, but
they have to be more consistent, and you know, you
worry about their death. That's that's the one thing, because
your death is all gonna get tested in a big ten.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
I mean just does. I mean, no team avoids it
and so you know.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
But the one thing I keep coming back to is
PJ is been so public and verbal about this team
and how much he likes it and the talent that
he has.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
So I mean, clear they know something more than we do.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
But it's it's it. Pj's always like that, right, He's
never not enthusiastic. And maybe it's just me, but it
feels a little different this time. The way he's talking
about team with so many unknowns. It's just kind of
it kind of catches me every time you say it,
because like I just feel like I don't know much
about this team. I mean, I know the stars, but
it terms across the board and all these guys that

(42:44):
we're talking about that we that are new or you know, unproven,
I just feel like I don't know a lot about
this team.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well that's the interesting part for PJ is what he's
saying without saying it, or what he's saying and you're
reading between the lions, because this is your nine of
now covering with you guys, is the early years of PJF.
Like you could tell when he was throwing cold water
on it. I mean you could, But this year it
feels like he's not. It feels like he's trying to
guess it up a little bit. Now. I asked him

(43:13):
about this at his press conference in terms of Okay, well,
if you're going to outperform expectations and say, win eight, nine,
ten regular season games, well you better be better in
one possession games because you you were mediocre there last
year they were three and four, or in twenty nineteen
eleven games magical year, you're six and one. So I
asked him, like, do you know if this twenty twenty

(43:36):
five team is going to be any better there in
that regard, because even think about last year, just reverse
the outcomes of North Carolina where Dragan just hits the
kick or Piscataway where you get out of there with
win your nine. You win nine regular season games, and
we're all in Tampa and guards he's trying to pull
me out of Whiskey Joe's and except I tell him,

(43:57):
then that's not me I'm at a different bar, and
I don't know what's six foot four individual you're dragging
out of there.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
We would have gotten to go to Whiskey Joe's together
for the first time, even though you think we spent
magical nights there.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
But his answer to me wasn't. I mean, I don't
know what I was expecting to hear. But it's essentially
trying to put them in every type of situation to
where when a weather delay happens, where they had a
weather delay of practice the other day when one of
those monsoons rolled through, and he was explicit and said,
we came out and then we didn't play it. We

(44:29):
didn't practice well. But you know what, I stopped practice.
I gave him some words of encouragement, and then we
try to learn from it. So how they do in
one possession games is going to dictate if they got
a ceiling. And to your point, it feels like he
thinks this team has a ceiling. But if they're going
to reach that ceiling, boy, they better be able to

(44:50):
run the ball in certain situations. That was one of
the things he put to me was back in nineteen
we'd get the ball with six minutes left. Guess what,
we wouldn't give it back.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
It was over.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I couldn't do that last year because you'd be in,
it'd be third and eight and you'd have to put
something on Brose murdifind Daniel Jackson somewhere. So a lot
of different things we got to learn. To your point, Chop,
all right, well let's take a quick break here. We'll
talk a little bit of defense. We've got to talk
about the Michigan sanctions, as well as a new.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Bizarre college football playoff. I don't even know if you
can call it expansion when it seems like every team
is just going to be put in it. All of
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time meteorologists here with my sleeves rolled up and everything.
We're supposed to have some fall like weather pushed through
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feel like. There's a crisp in the air, which means

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Speaker 2 (47:11):
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Speaker 4 (47:13):
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Speaker 1 (47:15):
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or daughter, because that's that's what we want, right. We
see those where someone say, yeah, I took my kid
to the first Gopher game. Let's find that this year.
Like if you haven't been, but you listen to our
podcast or you stumble across it, you want to take

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about linebacker real quickly, Burnsy. We've talked a lot about

(48:47):
defensive line. I don't want to panic you today because
I know that's kept you up at night, the depth
defensive line depth after some of the big names, and
so let's pause on that for a minute. But what's
fast and we haven't talked a ton about it on
this pot. I know you've done it on Gopher Gridirron
is the emergence of Matt Kingsbury in camp, who I

(49:07):
remember vividly, who we all remember vividly from a couple
of years ago, having to play in the Jordan Howden
twenty eighteen role of I'm out here because we don't
have anybody else and it's not going well, and the
other team, the other team knows I'm out here because
we don't have anybody else and we can't stop anybody.
It's it's a great I can't wait to see him

(49:30):
play this year because you've been to one more practice
than me or two more. I think that he is
a guy that apparently has really come on and I'm
hoping is another one of those Jordan Howden development stories
where I remember being at the coaches so talking and
PJ would say Jordan Howden's gonna be really good. He's
just young, and I'm watching it, going are we sure?

(49:53):
Like I are we sure? Because Illinois has put up
fifty In one of the plays, the quarterback and the
running back we're running to geather up the middle and
nobody was within thirty yards of them. But PJ was
right right. Jordan Howden NFL player. He turned into one
of the most solid guys that the Gophers had. He's
kind of Kingsbury unfortunately for him, and I know Howden

(50:14):
hated to talk about his progression as a player because
he knows it wasn't pretty when he got in there.
Kingsbury unfortunately, is playing the Jordan Howden role here, But
it sounds like he's another guy that has developed quietly
behind the scenes and is now ready to be some
type of a factor. You do have him kind of
on this depth chart as someone who might might make
a splash.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, who could forget the twenty twenty three afternoon in
West Lafayette where Perdue put up forty nine points, of
which I want nothing to do with Devin maccabee for
a third time in four years, because all he does
is kill Minnesota. He's the only player on Perdue that
has a pulse of which I feel for him. But yeah,

(50:56):
that Matt Kingsbury game was that was a tough one
to watch. Now he's gonna be in his third year
in the program, it's two years later. I think the
theme for me at linebacker is only gonna be a
lot like receiver, where there's gonna be guys who have
different roles. Where Matt Kingsbury you're gonna see him play
on early downs, first and second down, because his strengths
are he's six', three he has a neck. Role he

(51:18):
looks LIKE i, mean he looks the part of an
early down run stopping. Linebacker, NOW i tell, YOU i
don't know THAT i saw a single practice where there
was an actual tackle, Involved SO i don't know if
any of these linebackers can do much of anything in that.
Regard BUT i think you're gonna See Matt kingsbury play
a lot versus The iowas in The wisconsin's of the
world to try and bring the physicality and try to

(51:41):
stop the. Run whereas a guy Like Devin williams is
smaller than. Him, HOPEFULLY i, MEAN i guess he's a
guy who's played a lot of football From. Minnesota in that,
ASPECT i think you're gonna see him more against passing
teams or my favorite of the group of Which i'm
trying not to get too excited BECAUSE i know he's
a true. Freshman is the kid From Robinsdale cooper And Emmanuel.

(52:02):
CARMO i was going, there, next hit, it go. AHEAD
i mean it's, no, no you go. YOU i just
wanted to know what you thought of. Him, well that's
where number one player in the, state, kid four star.
KID i just think he. Is you're gonna see him
move around a. TON i, mean it's it's gonna feel
like something that you would watch. With who's The vikings defensive.

(52:24):
Coordinator what's his?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Name Brian? Flores Brian.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Flores like you're gonna see him line up as a,
linebacker traditional. Linebacker you're going to see him line up
as a pass rusher off the. Edge you're gonna see
Some mike zimmersque him standing in THE a gap on passing.
Downs like they're going to have four different, linebackers in my,
opinion probably play over two, hundred two hundred and fifty

(52:46):
snaps because they have guys that have strengths and. Weaknesses
compared to like A Cody linnenburger who can play every.
Down this linebacking unit doesn't have that outside of Maybe Maverick,
berenowski which we'll find. Out but that's the thing With
Danny collins this year is they're going to have a
lot of guys Like it wouldn't shock me if there's

(53:06):
twenty guys like legitimately twenty players who play over two
hundred snaps AND i would say maybe only four or
five of them play over five hundred snaps because they're
trying to make sure they hide weaknesses play the. Strengths,
Now i'm a little skeptical that you can get everybody
lined up in the same package and how all that.
Works but linebacker specifically is one of those guards you

(53:29):
WHERE i think you're going to see a lot of
bodies roll through, there And Matt kingsbury is going to
be a part of.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That you, Know.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Karmo is one of those players that you just notice
when he's out, there right because he has kind of
that explosiveness and just kind of shows. Up but you, know,
guards as you're talking about development And, matt and it
kind of made me think that as you, know good

(53:58):
a job AS pg has done is in closing the
borders and recruiting and all. That there's still not gonna
be a program that gets four and five, stars you, know,
consistently and that the roster's canna be stocked with. That
but this staff has proven and you can look at
the resume of guys that have where they started and
gone on and gone on to THE. Nfl they do
a pretty damn good job at developing. PLAYERS i mean

(54:19):
when you look at just where a lot of these
guys started and where they, end and, you like you
said With howd and you're, like, really is he a?
Player and then all of a sudden he's AN nfl,
player you, know three years, Later AND i, think you,
know In minnesota AND pj talked about that's how you
have to do, it because you're not gonna beat you,
know the blue bloods all the time on players On Koy.
PERRITCH i, mean you're gonna have to develop. Guys AND

(54:40):
i just think that's something that probably we don't talk
enough about WITH pj that he does hitting his staff
does a really good job of developing.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Talent, well, YEAH i think just part of the reason
they're not going to get a bunch of four and five,
stars is because there's not a lot of them bouncing
around here in The Upper. Midwest, Right it's easy down
south when you've got fifty five every year in every
state to just, go, yeah we're gonna grab these ten
and then we're gonna grab these four. Stars like how many?
Fives how many five star recruits have come out Of

(55:10):
minnesota for? Time, YEAH i Mean Queen Carol mark probably,
RIGHT i, MEAN i.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Mean coy was up there, Too But i'd also tell
you in this day and, Age minnesota also doesn't have
the money to get like Five well, yeah but for whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Reason, yeah that's a different. Art i'm just, saying like,
historically like you do you have to be you have to.
DEVELOP i, mean that's What mace was good, at, Right,
yeah that's What ioway's been great at in The wisconsin,
heyday that's what they were great. At like, yeah and you're,
right they they have. Done you, know you, mean we
could go down the list, someday be an off season projects,

(55:46):
probably but just guys that came in and slowly got
better and then the next thing you, know you're, like,
yeah they are AN nfl. Player that's. Weird where did
that come? From but you have you have to live like, that,
RIGHT i mean you just have. To and even in
the craziness in the transfer portal, world you, know and
obviously guys come and, go but they've kept a lot
of their guys and that's how you keep developing, them,
Right you keep them in the, program you keep them

(56:07):
along that. Path and so, Yeah I'm i'm excited to
see What coy looks like in her two you, know
just being just being a year. Older and we'll see
what What kingsbury looks. Like and you, Know baranowski is
a guy that's been around for a. While but, yeah
they the offensive. Line we know what they did with.
Ursery you, know there's you, know foul al like all that.
Stuff they've they've got guys, that you, know some of

(56:29):
them have been highly, touted some of them, haven't but
here they. Are Sorry marin who's coaching there? Now, yeah
he was a, good solid player for, Him like it
all comes.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Together well you think about again him from one of
those what satellite camps or whatever that thing, was, like
he wasn't even.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
To The lindenwood satellite camp and which they only knew
him as blue, shorts and, yeah then you ask anybody
around there watching him as a true freshman his red shirt.
EAR i, mean there was a lot of moving parts
going on there and he ended up developing into the
highest draft offensive lineman in my. Lifetime so it just
takes a little bit of.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Time, hey what is?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
That what does your corner depth look like on your
on your depth?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Chart, uh it looks, like As Danny collins said the other,
day like they're going to rotate, guys which THAT i
don't know HOW i feel about. THAT i feel like
it's not like, quarterback where if you haven't named a
starting quarterback by this stage of the college football, CALENDAR
i think you might be cooked because if you have two,

(57:29):
quarterbacks you've got no quarterbacks in my. Mind but you're
gonna Be Zekwon, bryan who IS i guess their eldest
in there with two hundred and fifty. Snaps and the
other guys That danny talked about the other day Were
John nestor From, Iowa Mike, Gerald Naim. Parrish so you
got two freshmen and a transfer From iowa in, there

(57:50):
AND i do believe they're going to rotate all four
of them in the non conference to try and figure
out what they, have because, YOU i, mean especially after
The rutgers, game like you gotta BE i, mean here
Comes Jeremiah smith and Then, Nebraska, Iowa Michigan state are
also on that, Schedule like you got to figure some things.
Out so the hope would be for, Me, chip they

(58:11):
start rotating poor. Guys hopefully they cut that down to
three pretty. Quick hopefully maybe after The cow. Game but
you got to start to figure out what you have.
There BUT i don't know that necessarily anybody has separated
themselves yet from what at Least i've been.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Told, yeah red shirt, freshman red shirt, freshman red shirt
junior and true. Freshman that's. Right that's different Than Justin
wally And Ethan, robinson, right, yeah, right, yeah That's but
in a week and change we get to we get

(58:46):
some answers to these tests or answers to these, questions
Which i'm excited.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
ABOUT i also want to before we transition, here this
is now A Tom Weston Australian punter, podcast of Which,
chip going forward after the first couple of fifty yard,
punts is going to come on this podcast with A
Fosters australian for. Beer because, LOOK i know a lot
of people are shocked to hear. This i'm shocked to
say it. MYSELF i think they got a punter man

(59:11):
Like Tom, weston who is A d two transfer they
picked up from a college In. Oklahoma, like the ball
comes off that man's foot different than What i've seen
since Probably Peter. Mortel and if they actually have a
punter who can gain them field position and then pin
people deep, too oh, boy oh boy for the guy

(59:33):
at head coach who loves to play some trestle. Ball
So i'm excited to See Tom weston in the non,
Conference i'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Much i'm excited for the crowd reaction the first time
he does what you're talking, about.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Because they have gold punting his winning.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Shirts, yeah they haven't seen that in a really long,
time or someone just. Boomed they're not going to know
what to. Think they're not gonna know what they're.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Watching he had a heck of a day that day
we were there last, week the last. PRACTICE i, Mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I've asked an is he just having good days when
we're there because players do, yeah and then then and
then when we leave it it kind of goes. Back
it sounds like he's had a pretty good, Camp So i'm.
Hopeful look at me dreaming on special, teams just like
everybody thought that maybe this is the year for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Group on that, note who's the, Kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I'm gonna go With Brady, deniberg who's the SAME i just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Bring you down by the way THAT i just bring
you down. High, yeah that was like himself dramatic. Pause
my hat almost blew off with that long. Sigh you're In,
Roseville i'm In. Minnetaka in my, HAT i just felt
a breeze from that long.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Sigh, yeah here comes the the gall just everything coming
Down Lake. Superior where's The Edmund fitzgerald tipping over? Here?
WHERE i JUST i want to see. It, Look Brady
deniberg has a dragon cassage type of LEG i it's
in the same. Tier. Absolutely he can make kicks from
fifty five yards with. Ease the question is does he

(01:00:59):
have on cassage accuracy from twenty twenty three or twenty twenty,
four because those are very different, accuracies and that's where
he has struggled in his career. Historically from forty plus,
yards he's three of nine in his, career and we
already spent time talking about one possession games and everything
that goes into. Those kicking is a big part of.

(01:01:19):
It SO i Think denniberg's gonna get the first. Shot
we'll see how he looks Next. Thursday BUT i just
want to see them make their kicks from forty yards and,
in and we'll see what happens from forty and. Out
BUT i am leery about the kicking situations day the,
least ye.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Something else to, watch something else to. Watch you start
a week and change from, now all, right in our
final couple of minutes here to maybe two topics one for.
Sure But michigan was in the news again, today, guys
or this week in that they got their penalties From.
Spygate not to be confused with the recruiting penalties where
they illegally recruited a lot of the players on their

(01:01:56):
twenty DURING covid and used them all to win The national.
Championship that's not this. Case we're not talking about that
case where they've been. Penalized this is For Connor. Stallions
they received a series of fines that could eclipse thirty million,
dollars but did avoid punity to penalties such as a
postseason banner vacating the, victories including that twenty twenty Three
National championship. SEASON ncaa imposed an additional game suspension For Sharon,

(01:02:19):
moore who's already been self suspended or self imposed suspension
for two games that will be served the first game
of the twenty twenty six. Season they also did levy
an eight year show caused penalty On Connor stallions and
a ten year show caused penalty for former head Coach Jim.
Harbaugh here's my favorite sentence in the whole. Story this

(01:02:42):
Is Pete damil And Dan WETZEL. Espn just for, Clarification
harbaugh's new show cause penalty will not begin until after
he serves a current four year show cause penalty that
runs through twenty twenty eight from a PREVIOUS ncublea k,
so hail to the. VICTORS i think you guys know

(01:03:02):
HOW i feel about. This what do we make of
these penalties to The Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Wolverines, WELL i think THE ncaa IS I they're clearly
turned to more financial penalties versus punishing players who had,
nothing probably had nothing to do with what was going.

(01:03:28):
On you know years, prior AND i sort of agree with.
THAT i never, understood you, know somebody breaks, rules they
do things, illegal and then five years later you're punishing
athletes who had nothing to do with it like. That
but the fact that they get to keep the national?
Title do you think they? Really do you Think Jim

(01:03:49):
harbor Or harbrough cares about a show Called.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
He's Not Coming back To College?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Football?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Now thirty million, dollars, that's you, know in today's even
Though michigan has more money than you, know they're probably.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
About to do With do you want to guess What
michigan's operating budget last fiscal?

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Year so probably in their endowment if they ever had
to reach into. Endowment you don't typically use that for athletic,
purposes but it's it's a rich. School SO i don't
think we should cry for them having to write that.
Check SO i don't, KNOW i mean it considering they
use that to win a national. TITLE i think a
lot of people outside of The michigan borders Of michigan

(01:04:26):
fan base thinks they probably got off pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
EASILY i think they. DID i think this just essentially
says to me THE ncaa is scared to do anything
there is you can cheat your way to a national. Title,
YEP a twenty thirty million dollar, fine whatever it ends up.
Being michigan's operating budget revenue wise last year was two
hundred and fifty five million.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Dollars, yeah this is they had Some they had a shortfall.
TOO i think like they for. SOMETHING i don't know
what it, was but like they're spending a lot of,
money but they also don't care like the eight million
dollars we talked about that THE u has for their projected,
Deficit michigan doesn't care about stuff like, that just Like Ohio.
State but go, ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Which means that they just they know that somebody will
step up from THE m club or whoever and pay
this fine and, say, well guess, what we got a
national title out of. IT i mean there's not even
like a postseason ban anything like. That it's JUST i
just think that THE ncaa is as powerless as it's ever.
Been and again you talk about trying to make financial

(01:05:27):
ramifications out of, this which maybe they're going to try to,
do BUT i, mean is a fine which is essentially
ten percent of their budget really gonna do anything to?
Them no of course.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Not THE ncia enforcement has become you, know it used
to be schools were scared of the enforcement and what
would come. DOWN i don't think there's fear throughout membership
anymore ON ncaa.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
ENFORCEMENT i mean there's just.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Not, yeah well and, THEY i, mean you guys know
HOW i. FEEL i think the whole the whole thing
has been a. Joke harbaugh's a. Joke cheron more cry
At Penn state was a, joke all Of it's a.
Joke How michigan fans react to it as a, joke,
yeah you. Can what it shows is why disincentivize? Cheating

(01:06:10):
you're not disincentivizing cheating when you do, This like the
whole point of enforcement was to you, know deter people
from doing. It AND i said this the other, Day
i'm curious what you think BECAUSE i get the theory
of you don't want to punish people that had nothing
to do with. IT i get. That back in the
day before we had a transfer, portal like kids were
stuck right like you you had to. Transfer if you

(01:06:31):
wanted to, transfer you had to sit. Out now kids
can do whatever they. WANT i, say they should they
if they want, to they should put a postseason. Ban they.
Should what's funny IS usc people Like Matt barkley, responding you,
know BECAUSE usc got hammered for The Pete carroll, stuff,
RIGHT i, mean your Guy Lane kifton had to deal with,
that the scholarship, production the whole. DEAL i think to,

(01:06:52):
me they should they should go back to what they did,
before because you're not necessarily punishing the. Players they can,
leave they can, go and if they really want to
Be michigan men that badly because it's so important to,
them they can. Stay that's. Fine but those punishments don't
have the same teeth anymore because people can just, Go
we're just gonna. Leave i'm just Gonna i'm gonna put
my name in the portal and go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Else, yeah, yeah for sure that argument makes sense because
before when you didn't have, that you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Were just stuck like you, yes you you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Know through no fault or your own you you, know
you're dealing with with someone else's. Transgressions but, yeah you're probably.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Right, yeah if.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
If it's now that they have the freedom to leave
and you know they could be part of the whole thing,
too is, like, hey you know you're gonna have the
postseason ban for two years or whatever you. Do but
if you don't like, it you, know you can find
another opportunity to any other.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
SCHOOLS i, mean, everybody there's how many people are transferring
every year as it, is you know WHAT i, Mean,
like there's clearly not a lot of loyalty in that.
Regard but, YEAH i JUST i, mean the whole thing
just annoys me because it just it just annoys me
because it's obvious what they were. Doing it's Obviously harbaugh
didn't care about. Anything that was one of the, statements
right they that enforcement was basically ignored At. Michigan he

(01:08:08):
just did what and that's. That go? Ahead LIKE i,
Know michigan people listen to. This speaking Of twitter, MENTIONS
i get him all the. Time you, know crime oar
blah blah. Blah hey that's. Fine you want to live like,
that go for. It if that's the that's the real
world for, you go for. It it actually has me
annoyed WITH jj McCarthy, Too Who's i'm gonna have to
watch for the next ten years as The vikings Quarterback

(01:08:30):
and what a great. GUY i know every time he,
says Oh, chip what a great? Question and, oh this
guy's the. Great, sure he's, great but it's It's i'm
gonna have to get over that as A vikings fan
moving forward, here BECAUSE i just think the whole thing.
SUCKS i just think the whole, like you have a
guy who literally didn't care about AND i used to
Defend harbaugh when he had his contract. SLASHED i defended

(01:08:50):
him and, said the guy's done everything but Beat Ohio,
state like he's put them back on solid. Ground he's
a good football. Coach but this whole thing has been
a joke from the players that they cheated to get
recruiting DURING covid when people were actually kind of following
the rules. There you, know there was a handful of
people that you know that didn't they were one of,
them and then use those players and an elaborate scouting

(01:09:12):
scheme where whatever you think about, it, well it didn't it.
Didn't we didn't have that when we Beat Penn. State
we didn't have. That when we Beat Ohio, state we
didn't have that when we had the championship. Run that's all,
fine but that doesn't mean that it didn't. Happen and
it still goes back to the first case that you're
in trouble for you had all these players in part
because you cheated to get. Them and that's the thing
that just it's just too, bad Because michigan shouldn't have

(01:09:34):
to cheat for all the things that we just laid,
Out LIKE i can understand Why Clem haskins Wanted Jan
Gango hoof to write a few papers for, people like
they're schools that you, go, yeah they probably needed to.
Cheat michigan should never have to cheat in any world
in any. Way we've all been, There Randy burn has been, There,
like they should never have to cheat in. Anything with
every advantage that they have with the, stadium with the,
money with the, boosters with the, school they should never

(01:09:56):
have to do. This and so miss me With michigan,
men you guys are frauds and we're happy for all of.
You anything, ELSE.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
It's JUST i, mean and let's not get into how
you get every call too from going for every SINGLE i,
mean let people talk about that. Forever but that's a
whole nother. Podcast that's a whole other. Podcast JUST i
hope here's WHAT i hope they suck. Forever is that
AM i making my good?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
LOOK i want. YOU i want you to tell me
how you really feel next. Time between Your twitter stuff
earlier this week and then Your michigan stuff, HERE i
feel Like I'm i'm in the. DARK i think You're
there's a lot of gray, area AND i hope you
become more explicit with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
US i KNOW i need to stop straddling the, fence
BUT i hope they suck. Forever and that's still my.
Favorite When Sharon moore was crying At Penn state Like
Jim harbaugh was dying of. Cancer you, know it's, like come, on,
dude like come. On and but, anyway so there's, that
uh The College Football playoff in our final minute or
two interesting story. Floated this to me seems like rage baiting.

(01:10:59):
Burns it is it. Is let me see IF i
can pull up some of the details. Here doesn't look
LIKE i. Can't oh, yeah here it is working on
my new setup. Here The Big ten apparently is exploring
and THE sec might be two a twenty four and

(01:11:20):
twenty eight team college football playoff bracket that may feature
as many as seven automatic qualifiers each for The Big
ten IN, sec five each for The Big twelve IN,
acc two for the best group of six programs and
two at large. Selections this is A Ross Ellinger yahoo
story That i'm reading For here's what he. Writes those

(01:11:40):
briefed on the, idea most of them leading administrators in
The big, ten spoke To Yahoo sports under condition of
anonymity about write this down the so called seven, seven
five five two to two model of the college football?
Playoff how are we feeling about?

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
This can we go back to? Two can we go
back to THE? Bcs?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Right can we go back to just pick the national
champion at the end of the. Year we'll vote on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
It we'll have the. Polls do. It just keep it at.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
TWELVE i, mean that's, absurd twenty four to twenty. Eight
just keep it at.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
TWELVE i, mean if.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
It's causing this much uh consternation and wild you, know
twenty eight teams Like, hollo come, on, no, no just
just keep it at.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Twelve if that's you, know if you don't want to
go to, sixteen keep it at.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
TWELVE i JUST i almost missed THE bcs at this
point because you, can at least you knew what it
was going to be in the moment that they took
it out of the public's eye and put it behind
closed doors to the, rankings AND i mean that's where
the subjectivity comes, involved and everybody thinks they're getting. Screwed
And i'm Sure bama fans have a lot to say about,

(01:12:53):
that but just twenty four to twenty, eight it's just
a money grab and you're already losing fans because this
thing is now on every DIFFERENT tv, Channel And i'm
thinking about a team Like Cal. Berkeley they're in a
conference essentially on The East, coast like we started this
thing talking about regional, football and we're just when money gets,

(01:13:14):
involved people do stupid. Things and when stupid money gets,
involved it gets even. Crazier so the hope would be
if you do expand, it just keep it at sixteen
and then stop doing. This this is like THE ncaa,
tournament where it's essentially if you have a, pulse if
potentially you get, in and yet the go for basketball
team can't find a way to get in. There, no

(01:13:35):
that's a that's a separate, podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
But unnecessary, shot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Especially Considering Nico Medved roseville, guy, Me Roseville. GUY i
didn't need to do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
THAT i look at it just from the. BASICS i
love college football regular.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Season because it's you, know the drama and all that
and the, excitement and the playoff should feel. Special, yeah
making the playoffs would fel. Special if you're telling me
that Seven big ten teams are gonna make a, playoff
that does not feel, Special i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Sorry, no even for, me who's a college football expansion,
guy this is, absurd of, course, insane of, course AND
i don't even really believe it as. MUCH i think
that what they're, BASICALLY i think they're just throwing stuff
out so we CAN i don't know if it puts pressure,
on you, know settling in on the sixteen or whatever it.

(01:14:26):
Does but because there's no way in hell this would
ever get. Passed, Ever no, ever because, no the seventh
place team in any league should not be in the
college football. Playoff. BASKETBALL i get, it because because it's,
basketball you can't like think about how many games this
would have to. Be AND i know there's buys and
campus sites and everything that comes with, it but, yeah

(01:14:47):
this is obviously, insane insane, behavior and hopefully we get
back to. Realisticality they still want to try to get
this thing figured out By, december right for next year
and beyond which they still don't have any clarity on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Why don't they just keep it at twelve and everybody
walk away for a year Like cooler His prevail and
just say we're not going to talk to, You we're
not going to talk about the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Playoff we'll just let it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Be it's it's, fine and we'll revisit. IT i, MEAN
i know everybody wants more. MONEY i KNOW tv wants.
IT i know they want THE tv money and the money.
Grab but throwing out just absurd s nine ideas is not.
PRODUCTIVE i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Know, well you Tell Tony pettiti And Greg sank you
to get on the same, page have go To versailles
and work this thing. OUT i don't know where they
need to. Go but until that happens here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
WELL i, KNOW i love it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
THAT i know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
What at least two minutes of my eight minute pregame
interview With Mark coyle Next thursday at the stage in
front of THREE A marina At mariucci are going to
be about what do we think of? This? Mark and
Then Andy greider will tweet about it and write a
quick blog about, it and you guys won't even listen to.
It and that's. Disappointing that's, disappointing but it'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Good what was what was the need for the shot
here at the ends the? Bow i'm just trying to
have a Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
WEDNESDAY i Think michigan spun me. Up, Sorry i'm. Sorry
i'm not mad at. You i'm mad At. Michigan, no
it's because you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Like to protect regional. Games Justin, gard that's what you
have alerted the fans to. Here i'm getting. Upset i'm
gonna go see what the kittens are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Doing, uh you know what you need to. Do make
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big preseason matchups That gopher fans were telling me About

(01:16:39):
iowa And albany And wisconsin And miami Of. Ohio maybe
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conference tests to open up the season for the Former
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