Pair and a Spare Podcast July 2025: Media Day Recap, How Much Koi, CFP Update

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard recap Big Ten Media Days in Las Vegas discussing the main storylines from both the Gophers and conference as a whole: How much will Koi Perich actually play offense? Is James Franklin always complaining? What is next for Wisconsin? Who will blink first in the Big Ten/SEC playoff standoff?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota. You need a Pair and a Spare.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thank you, PJ. It is time for another edition of
the Pair and a Spare podcast. I'm Justin Guard from
the fan boys are laughing because I called myself something different.
You can tell that story if you want. Before we
hit record. We've got Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot
com and from Football Across Minnesota, which is now taking
over his entire life, and we're just happy that he's here.

(00:26):
Chipskoggins from the Minnesota Star Tribune. We are presented as
always by our great partners at Jack's Cafe. You see
the scroll on the YouTube channel. Make your reservations at
Jackscafe dot com Jaxcafe dot com. Good morning, boys, It's
officially football season. Media days are all wrapped up. Training
camps have all started. We made it. We made it.
How's everybody doing today? Not all it was.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
From Vegas. You made it back you live. I'm happy
to see your faces.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, I'm just happy. I was able to negotiate with
the Mandalay based Secure team to get Justin Guard released
from the holding cell after he had a dispute it
on the backer at table. I told all of our
listeners this is going to happen. But you put a
couple of Goose Island IPAs in him, and this is
what happens to you out in Vegas. It's not Indianapolis,
so you start to lose your mind a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I will say, what did you think of the
Vegas experience? Burnsy? How did you like Big Ten Football
media days in Las Vegas?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I loved it exponentially more than Indianapolis. But I know
that's also apparently a hot take these around the national
and regional media parts.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Is it really?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're not James Veaklin.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I thought James Franklin was the only one that complained
about it, which you guys know me. I like James Franklin.
I hope they have a great season. I think he's
done a great job at Penn State. Can we not
complain about everything like.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Vegas?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, he really lost me with the size of the
runway in State College and Google the rant Like, I'm
just I'm perplexed how so many football teams have been
able to get to Happy Valley for sixty five years
with a runway that apparently isn't up to code to
get out to Los Angeles for the Penn State Nitney Lyons,
But yeah, he was mad about Like for us, he

(02:12):
was talking about cost and our beat writers couldn't come
out because it was so expensive. It was cheaper for
us to go to Vegas then it has not been
for Indy the last few years. Like Indy when Indy
ain't exactly easy to get to it. Obviously if you're
driving from Chicago or Blueten or Westlafietta or Champagne or
Iowa City and most a lot of schools can do that.
When you have to fly, it's a little bit different.

(02:33):
But it was way cheaper for us to fly to
Vegas than it was to fly to Indianapolis, which is
but it's always something man coaches. They got to complain
about something, right they got not everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
It's never is never smooth sailing, right, there's always got
to be a complaint.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Did so, you guys liked it A good setup and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I thought it was, I loved it.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
It was like a ten twelve minute walk from your
hotel room to the convention center or whatever it is.
But to your guys' point, I feel like we just
now live in a world where everybody's just angry all
the time. Yeah, maybe that's just because we all live
on social media too much because of our jobs.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
But yes, it.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Seemingly Yeah, James Franklin, it's so expensive. Yeah, I know
you already covered a guardsy, but it's like Happy Valley
is the most expensive and most difficult place to travel to,
no matter where you're coming from in the big time.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Where are the cheap flights to state College? Yeah, we
don't exist. You get to connect I think in like Newark,
or there is one, maybe one in Philly. Delta used
to have one that connected in Detroit and flew. Otherwise,
you're going.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
To Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh and driving through the mountains.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
And driving through the mountains, which I've had to do,
by the way, and my phone died. My phone died
chipskogin style, and I had to pull over and get
a map out of Pennsylvania, you know whatever that state
highway is. I had to pull over to get a
map to actually find out where I was going. Also
didn't know where our hotel was, so I had to
go That was where I had to go to Buffalo
Wild Wings to fire up my laptop to get the

(04:07):
Wi Fi on to actually even heard that story because
my phone died. My phone it was it was an
older phone and it didn't always charge very well, so
even though I was trying to charge it on, I
had to like clean it out basically. Yeah, and it
it didn't charge. On the flight I got my car,
had no idea where I was going. It was dark
that little highway that you have to take through the
Nitney Mountains, and grabbed a map which you can do

(04:30):
kids at a roadside gas station and found my way.
But so, yeah, I'm fine going to Vegas. I'm fine.
Like State College, it's it. Don't even get me started
on the hotel where we stake. So I know we've
talked about that before. If you want to see what
State College was like in nineteen seventy two, just come
with us, because the hotel that we stay in there
has not been updated since nineteen seventy two. I loved

(04:52):
that guarantee it's like four to seventy five a night, Yes,
because it is. That's a whole Yeah, that's a story
for another pod. But I thought Vegas was right. I
liked it. Yeah, and really I never even left a
mandol a bay, right, I I never left that part
of the strip. I just looked at the strip from
the room I was sharing with Grim for the night
that I was there, speaking of budgets, James Franklin. So

(05:15):
I thought it was great. It was fun to to
be to have a little bit of a different energy.
I liked the vibe. I made no bets, I lost
no money. They put together and this is where you
get bought off. They put together a nice function for
us on Wednesday night, which was fun. Burns he hung
out with us for about ten minutes before he ditched
us for his two four seven crew.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Spent a lot of time with Scott Doctorman, which so
did I always.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It was awesome. Yeah. He came over kind of towards
the end of the media function. He looked like a
lost puppy, you know, like everybody had left. I go, Scott,
have a chair, pull up a chair, sit with us.
It was great. Yeah, tipute enjoy.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
He was more in a shirt that I think I'm
gonna paraphrase, don't. I don't know if I'm gonna get
the verbage right. It was like I'm the hottest journalist
in my group chat.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
In the group chat, it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It was great. Bought me a beer and he said
it's bush Light in honor of Iowa. Said, hey, these
were thrown at me at Kennick Stadium.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Two years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
This is great. It is Yeah, it was awesome. It
was great to see him. You guys know how we
all feel about him. Scott Doctorman worth the price of
an athletic subscription if you want to get in on
college football. We're actually gonna uote from a couple of
things on the show this week. So Vegas was great.
It's going to be a buzzkill to do it anywhere
else but Vegas for me, because you know they're going
back to Indy at some point, which is just a

(06:29):
disaster in my mind. At least do Chicago where it's something,
where there's you know, just do Chicago. Just keep it
in Chicago. We don't need to We don't need to
put it in Indy. But I might be the only
one that thinks that.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Unfortunately, they canna put it in La is La next.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You think at some point they got to kick it
out there, maybe a little bit further west. I don't know. Scottsdale.
People like going to Arizona. There's no big ten teams
there either, but Burns he would like that. Burnsy would
like that he could go relive as JW. Marriott can
back experience of seeing the couple in a compromising position.
Let's just say that a family. Oh what a night,

(07:09):
but I got I need a quick detour on the
pod though early, because I need you guys to translate this.
This happened last night, thunderstorms all over. I should turn
off my email. You guys don't need to know how
many emails I'm getting today, because that's a rookie move.
I had a dream last night, and I don't dream
very often, and this was a weird one. The Gophers

(07:33):
were at Kinnick Stadium, which they go I think late September.
Burnsey when they go to Kinnick Stadium this year, maybe October,
I can't I can't remember exactly October ish, and the
Gophers are putting it on the Hawkeyes. I mean it's
like twenty eight to three. Drake Lindsay scrambles for like
a twelve yard touchdown, gets into the end zone and

(07:54):
everything looks great in Iowa City. That Floyda Rosedale's coming
back home. But then it turns, It turns dramatically. I
will get to a couple of scores. It's about to
be halftime. It's now twenty eight, twenty four, and my
radio equipment's not working. I've been given I realize that
I haven't done any sideline hits the entire game. And

(08:16):
I look down and I have like an old sid
Hartman like box chip where nothing is plugged in, nothing
is going and Paul Rovnet Go for SID is looking
for me to do my halftime interview with PJ, and
I'm nowhere to be found. And as I am going
down the sideline of Kinnick, I already see he's doing
the sideline interview with TV and it's about to be

(08:38):
my turn, and nothing is going right. And then I
wake up. It's like four point thirty in the morning.
How sick am I mentally like, how much help do
I need?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Do you think this is an extension of? And I've
had this when I've had other people tell me this.
You're in college and you forget to go to the
class until the.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Final Yeah, a very popular dream.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, this is an extent. This is what that is
I don't know. I'm not freud here, I don't there's
something going on. You're You're always prepared, so this is
not an indictment on your preparedness.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
So I think the thick part of this is you
think there's an Iowa Minnesota game that gets fifty two
points in it before halftime? Yeah, really, I don't know
that they've combined to score more than forty five. And
like the entire flight.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Say, late fourth quarter, he's like, it's almost half.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Time, twenty eight to three. The Gophers are just putting
it on them. It's crazy, But none of my stuff
is working, and it's never.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
He's not gonna be able to sleep the night before
that game because he's gonna have the same dream, the
same fear, he's gonna have a cold Sweat's like, you're
gonna you're gonna triple check things that day to make.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Sure you and Grimm are gonna be sleeping. And I
think each one of your respective parents' houses for the
night before that game, as you normally do.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, my parents live here now, they live here now. Yeah,
so that was a weird one. So I'm I'm kind
of grappling with that, and I'm just I hope all
my equipment works. You know, we've had issues on the
sidelines before, but the Drake Lindsay touchdown, it was very
vivid in my head, just a really nice QB scramble.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I didn't know you were going to have a dream
about then becoming impaled with bush lights on top of
your head after Drake Lindsay scrambles for the twenty eight point.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
That's where I was standing. I was standing in the dream.
I was standing in the area where I was you know,
Dodgy shrapnel two years ago after the Cooper Dejene deal.
So maybe that site has burned into my mind. I
don't know. But anyway, I'm dealing with a lot this morning,
so you guys might have to carry it. That's what
I woke up to at four thirty.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It is football season.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
When you're having dreams about your sideline gigs, you know,
it's a fishing football.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Season, right.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It's not healthy. It's not healthy at all, all right,
So where do we want to start, Burnsley, Let's start
with you just kind of give me and I've been
listening to a lot of serious XM the last few days.
College Football Channel eighty four. And this is the lazy,
cliched top sub question that they've done to every single
guest that they've had on Naturalie.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
You'll throw it to me right, I'm.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Just gonna do it like this. What was the main
takeaway for Big ten Media Day in Las Vegas in
your mind?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Besides James Franklin coming there with a clear agenda both
about the travel arrangements, the college football playoff, the I
mean he came ready to say like this is a
team that should compete for a national title, which was again,
this isn't a Pennce Day podcast, but I think of
all the respective head coaches, that's the one that stood

(11:33):
out to me. The other thing I would tell you
that stood out is someone who then sat and listened
to Luke Fickle talk after PJ Fleck. I felt like
I was listening to the early years of PJ Fleck
with some of the ways that he was trying to say,
you know, we're trying to establish the culture, and I'm
thinking to myself, this sounds like a head coach who
knows they're about to win four games. He's trying to

(11:55):
get the kind of the baseline as low as it
could go, of which I don't know how Wisconsin fans
are going to react to some of that rhetoric, of which,
again I thought I was listening to Fleck, especially the
early years of Fleck, trying to temper expectations as best
I could. I didn't expect to see that or hear

(12:16):
that from Luke Fickle of all people, because I understand
that their win totals only five and a half and
they play arguably the most difficult schedule in the Big Ten.
But boyle boy chipper, it was interesting listening to Fickle
during Big Ten media days.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Is this year three for Fickle?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Three?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know, I have no idea like how much support
he has internally from his administration there. But I gotta
imagine the fans who have been so conditioned to winning
there are beyond wrestless at this point, and they are
I don't know if they're going to look at the

(13:03):
schedule and say, Okay, this is really tough. We're gonna
understand that this might be, you know, a five win season,
or is that the blowback going to continue to build
like a wave on him. I don't know what it
might be more apathetic at this point.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, what was the streak that finally came to it?
And how many years in a row had it been
that Wisconsin had made a Bowl game before Minnesota put
the kebbosity.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It was twenty three years something like that.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I just I look at that team, and I
look at all that and the difficult schedule going from
the dairy raid to twelve and thirteen personnel to you know,
you lost your best corner to Miami. Your second best
corner just got ruled ineligible because of the whole eligibility thing.
I have a lot of questions about that team. I'd

(13:52):
also say Fleck wise, I mean, I've come to a
point where I know that this his speech is not
for us in terms of the media. It's for the fans,
it's for the recruits, is for whoever. But I think
the thing that was interesting to hear him say was
two things. The multipliers. You know, that's a new one

(14:13):
for me. I haven't heard PJ. Fleck ever use that
term before. We have a bunch of multipliers, yep. But
then he gets into the whole spiel about he wants
this team to be delusional of that's how Indiana got there,
That's how a team like Arizona steak out there is
you have to be delusional with something like that. And
I think the fans who drink all of the maroon

(14:36):
and gold color kool aid, which I appreciate, and took
that as we're going to the college football playoff, like
knows it, Here we go. But it's an interesting new
tagline because that's the one I'm certainly going to remember
heading into the season here, is Chip be delusional?

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, he always has the slogan, right, I mean, And
I think, uh, Indiana is a good case study. And
I know they they've been taking it nationally from people
saying their schedule and that became a big talker down
there too.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
But I just think in this and I'm not saying they're.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
A college football playoff team, but I've bet a bunch
of coaches nashally are saying, look at Indiana, they have
no history. No, you know, they came out of nowhere
in this expanded playoff.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
You never know. And I think that's that's my phrase,
you never know.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
True shirt.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, But I think that's uh. I think that's Pj's
way and probably a lot of coaches way of saying, hey,
with the portal, with the expanded playoff, with the way
college football, it's not just the same three or four
teams every year.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Why don't you know? Why did why not us? Type things?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
So, yeah, the multipliers, that was a new one. But yeah,
I mean, I think in listening to PG talk about
this team, I think there's definitely a lot of unknowns.
But I don't think that they lack from confidence in
the players, in talent and athleticism that they brought into

(16:13):
the roster.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
They just have to prove it right. We just don't
so many new faces, we don't really know about them.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
But I don't think it's I get the sense that
PG and M I feel like they recruited well and
it's going to show up in his team.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. My take away, my takeaways along those lines where
that's the most frontal I think he's ever been in
discussing what expectations should be right. Usually he says something like,
you know, I just want this team. I just want
to get the most out of this team that we
possibly can. That's my job. He's never said anything like
take the lid off the jar and you reach for

(16:47):
the skies. But it is part of the new era,
like and he said this, every coach should be thinking
that the playoff is more accessible than it ever is.
Because it is, and we'll talk about it in a second,
but in years to come, it might even be more excited.
And that's the one we've talked about forever since they
got around away from divisions and everything in the Big Ten.
You gotta give teams a reason to believe after a

(17:09):
weekend if they've lost a game or two which didn't exist,
you know, which hasn't really existed once they got rid
of the divisions. There's you got to have reasons for
everybody to stay invested. I think that's part of the
reason why Tony Petiti wants to do some Big Ten
semi final games or playing games essentially for four guaranteed
spots in the playoff. But the other thing that I've

(17:30):
never heard him kind of promote is they're going hard
with the koy Perrich thing, Like they're they're saying it
out loud, like, yeah, we're gonna play him a lot,
he's gonna get he's gonna get involved. This isn't a novelty.
Usually he kind of like tap dances around all of
that stuff like it Now, we'll see as Burnsy you
always like to say, I hear what you say, I

(17:51):
trust what you do. We'll see if he actually gets
a bunch of run and early. I bet he won't.
I don't think they'll probably show a bunch early and
kind of let that thing go on. But that was
kind of my takeaway was, for first time in my
fifteen years, they have a dude that other people there
want to talk about, Like the national media. You know,

(18:12):
there's always big ten people that wanted to talk about
Moe or Rashad Bateman or Tyler Johns, like everybody wanted
to talk about Koy Perriche, Like national people coming up
and talking it. Tell us about Koy what we know
about Koi, and they just haven't had that and they
are leaning into that fully it appeared, which I think
is great. Which is the point when you have a
good player like that, make him the face of your program,

(18:35):
which they're obviously doing well with the.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Whole koy On offense thing. Here's the thing I want
fans to kind of sink their teeth into over the
next thirty days before Buffalo comes to town is at
the wide receiver position. This year, We've talked about it
all offseason or replacing Daniel Jackson Elijah Spencer over eighty
percent of your production. But you've also brought in guys

(18:58):
like Logan Loya from UCLA, Javon Tracy from Miami of Ohio,
Malachi Coleman. There's a lot of internal expectations for a
kid like Jalen Smith from man Cato West. You've got
Christian Driver for another year. Like how much Koy Parrish
plays on offense to me reflects back on how good

(19:19):
is the room actually, because if they're not much good,
which could happen again, you're bringing in a lot of transfers,
and I got a lot of guys have played, and
you know the guy with any returning production is le
Mikey Brockington. And even then, I'm skeptical that he can
be much more than a competent wide receiver too. At
this stage. Again, I'd love to be proven wrong, but

(19:39):
if they're competent at receiver, I'd rather give those reps
to Jalen Smith than I would Coy Parrots in that aspect. Now,
if you can get Koi on the field for three
to five times a game just to get him something,
and again, he is one of the most dynamic athletes
certainly out there. I get it, but I want to
temper expectator is there. But the other thing I also

(20:01):
think I learned about you mentioned it. Everybody wanted to
talk Choy Perrich was. I guess I forgot or didn't
realize how Cooy Perrich is just completely two different people
on and off the field. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Where on the field he is, he shows emotion, he
is plays with again a lot of I guess energy,
I would say, But off the field, and I talked
to all of his teammates about it. The kid's a
big introvert and there's nothing wrong with that. Again, I
married a gigantic introvert. I understand all about all that.

(20:35):
And you could see like his social battery was draining
throughout the day. He didn't want to do this, like
he just wanted to go play his video games and
just kind of be him. But it is fascinating for
a kid who is on a meteoric rise. And I
talked about it with him. Where you go to a
Gopher football practice or a Dinkey Town athletes function, his

(20:57):
jersey is the one everybody wears and he knows it,
but he just he just enjoys what he enjoys, and
he enjoys, you know, playing video games. It did a
big feature about how he's got like, legitimately and this
is not hyperbole, Chip, he has played on this one
specific video game over one hundred and fifty five days

(21:19):
of his life. And that is not time like with
the video game loaded and nothing is happening.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
That is active time.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
He showed me on his app because he was proud
of it, and again I get it. And then I
ran into his parents actually as I was leaving Vegas,
and I asked him about it, and they both looked
at me just like parents would just kind of give
me the yeah, we know about that game it all start,
and then they told me the whole backstory, and I
was just like, it's fascinating to have a kid who

(21:50):
generates as much buzz positively about the university as Cooy
parents does with so many different talkers. But then you
get him and it's like he just wants to be
himself and he's very comfortable in that. But he is
an introvert, which is very interesting.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Well, and that's probably why PJ doesn't have a problem
with promoting him and doing all these things. Because he
can handle it. One, you have to be confident that
the athlete can handle that kind of expectations, that kind
of talk, that kind of pressure.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I don't think any of that's gonna bother Coy Perritge.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Like, no, he seems oblivious to, you know, pressure, right,
Like it just doesn't. The stage is never going to
be too big for him, I don't think. And so
he can handle that, and why not lean into it.
Not only does it you know, it helps you sell tickets,
It helps all the things that go with your program
and put it on more of a national stage. It

(22:45):
also by signal something.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
To recruits out there.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Hey, look exactly you know with PJ.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I think there's always secondary and third type layers to
this stuff, right, I mean you're you're selling it to
recruits too.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
But yeah, it's it's you.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Know, you can go back to think about in my time,
like those special There's been great players here, but I'm
talking about like that special. I think about Marony, I
think about Bateman, think about Antoine Winfield, those guys that
had kind of that special quality where when they go
on the field, you expect something to happen, something good,

(23:24):
and and and dramatic and Koy has had he had
that in his first year, is like that don't even
make great plays.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
He made dramatic plays, right.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
So I'm I'm you know, I have no idea, like
what how many snaps he's gonna get on offense? If
it was five to ten, you know, let it rip
and you know, put him at running back, put him
in a spot slot, put you know, do all kinds
of weird things that direct snap it to him, you
know whatever, let him throw the ball.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't care. I feel like that guy is.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Such a a difference maker and that you know, as
many times, in as many ways as they can put
the ball in his hands.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I would I would, I would think I would lean
into that.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Well that's where even Fleck reminded me. This was I
don't know if I told you this card. I literally
go get my credential a big ten meaty days. And
as I'm walking past then the elevator or escalators, here
comes Fleck and general manager Garrett turnoff and he looks
at me and he goes, are you gonna hit me
with a special teams question? Doesn't even say hello, Yeah,
he goes, are you gonna ask me about the whole
six years since the return touchdown thing, and like guys,

(24:31):
it's somewhat of a bit, but he knows, like he
I think if he told me at once, he told
me at four or five times while we were out
there in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, I was there for one of them. I was
there for one of them after his podium.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's And then to Chip's point, there are
players that you want to see touch the ball and
Koy Perritch now being the primary return man unless something
crazy happens both kick and punt returnal wise, there's finally
a guy, I guess for the first time. And again
I Yardsie and I have only been doing this fifteen
years compared to you, Chip, but I can think of

(25:04):
very few players maybe Antoine Winfield junior when they let
him do it, and then he was tremendous at it.
But then you know, it's trying to then balance the
how many hits do you want him to take extra
considering the dynamic safety that he also is. I'm excited
to see what year two has in store for Koy. Again.

(25:25):
He's getting all the preseason accolades with All American and
and things of that nature. But I'll continue to say,
I mean, if we're getting into hot takes season, I
don't even know that coy is. If you asked me
to say, who's the most talented player on this twenty
twenty five defense, I'll continue to say, it's Anthony Smith.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Anthony Smith.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
And that's where it was interesting to hear him talk
about staying at Minnesota because somebody asked him, you know,
what was that process like in deciding to stay, and
he's like, yeah, coaches from other schools were blowing up
my phone, and I'm like, I don't think people realize
how how much say blue blood and blue chip schools

(26:05):
just don't care anymore because they know that there's.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Not They never cared. I know, yeah, they never cared.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
To hear it again, to hear the players say yeah
this again, he didn't name the specific schools. I can
think of one that was unhappy with where potentially these
big ten media days were at.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Where do they have a short runway? Do they have
a short runway in their town?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Okay, yeah, and so again Anthony Smith.
Chip is again just a fascinating person to get. You know,
I think he is has one of the best personalities
on the entire team, of which, again I was able
to tell the story and you can read it on
goph Illustrated from he tried to sneak as his snowboard

(26:48):
to a bowl game is a true freshman, of which
that didn't go over well to I think you all
three of you remember we were at a fall practice
and he got into a scuffle, of which happens very
frequently throughout college football.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I think that was a spring game. Well, he gets kicked.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Out of practice, like he stalled to go cool off,
and now like he he's got a bunch of plants
that he takes care of. He's on a first name
basis with the Billy sushi guy, like he's just he's
a big thrifter.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean he is.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
He has grown up and that those are the types
of stories that you'd love to see when totally, totally
the kid comes to college and he's a kid, and
now he's about to leave if he has another season
like he had last season and hopefully be the seventh
consecutive Gopher to go on the first or second round.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, the the practice he got thrown out, that was
his freshman year, right.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I think it was his red shirt freshman year.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
That was I believe that was the one. Remember the practice.
Uh I came to and I stand by you, and
I was like, who is that?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah? Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Like you could just there are guys that just when
you see him, you're like, Okay, that's different, Like he
looks different than you know what I'm accustomed to see.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
And then I remember Tom Burns, like, oh my god,
who is that kid?

Speaker 4 (28:05):
And because he just stood out physically right, and he's
like a it's Anthony Smith. And I'm almost positive that's
the game or the practice he got because I was
excited to watch him and then he got thrown out.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
He got in a fight with somebody and PJ throws me.
I was like, oh my got it. You know I
want to see.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
But Alis said that one of my favorite things about
covering college football is.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And you and you.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
It's it's really noticeable with everybody, but but particularly quarterbacks
because we meet with him every week. And I remember
this with Koopito. I remember with Adam Webber, tannor Morgan, whoever.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Early on, when.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
They're you know, they're a little bit I don't say uneasy,
but they're just young haven't been interviewed a lot. They're
almost the face of the program. They're speaking on behalf
of the offense of what's you know, everything's going on,
and so you know, their answers are not the most
you know, verbose or whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
And then by the time.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
They're a three year starter a senior, it's like they
have this presence about him where they've been doing this
every week and they've been interviewed so many times. It's
like and they're they go from being eighteen or nineteen
to twenty two or you know, years old. It's just
the maturation you get to see, not only physically and
on the field, but just in the way the guys
project and talk about things and their experiences.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I love that about college football.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
You just basically get to see guys grow up agree,
you know, and it's fun to cover.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And I could go through the list of people.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
That then and then now, you know, I get to
see him when they're dad's you know, and they're coaching
their kids.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's like, oh my god, this.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Is getting kicked out of AAU tournaments and things like that.
For swearing. It's great.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
So yeah, I remember Tanner Morgan, my first interview with
him ever when he was a redshirt freshman. It's probably
the week after he went in for Zach Anistad at Nebraska,
and he's just staring off into the distance, repeating hyperculture
and rode the ball Like I mean, it was just like, yeah,
this dude's bought in. But then you know, three years
later he's talking about his dad dying and all the

(30:05):
things that you know, his dad did for him and
how much he loved the program like it was. And
now Tanner obviously he's basically a public speaker, right, I mean,
as his quarterback academy, he's been involved with a lot
of these you know, with Max and with Drake and
some of these workouts. It's like, I mean, yeah, Mitch
Leidner's same deal. He was around for a long time.
Right by the end of it, like they do, just
get comfortable in the whole deal. And obviously, imagine what

(30:28):
Drake Lindsay's going to sound like if he has four
years of playing, because Drake's already polished. Yeah, Drake already
fills the notebook up, which is very very rare, Like
there's no trying to peel the onion with Drake lindsay
he's ready to go in that respect, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Think that was the other thing was getting to know
Drake a little bit better and hearing him as a
nineteen year old is just I remember what I was
like in nineteen and I'm sure you two do as well.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
To being I'm pretty much the same. I'm pretty much
the same, unfortunately change. I was a fast mature but
then slow to take the final couple steps. If you're
asking what an analogy you asked, do you remember yourself
at nineteen? Yeah, and the only difference is I don't
have earrings right now. That's about it. That's about the same.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Even then you were talking to me in Vegas about
potentially wanting to go get him back. We almost went
to a piercing shop. I mean, there's enough tattoo shops.
There was even one in the hotel we were at.
You could see the line.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But Tuesday night ended when Tuesday night ended for me
by watching the family Feud with Grim in our room
at the mandal A Bay. So that tells you how
wild things got for your boy here. But anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I can only imagine you two were just sitting next
to each other, just popped up in the bed just
laughing at Steve Harvey.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And our room had a great view of the whole strip.
So you're just thinking about everything that's going on there,
and I'm like, good answer, good answer, good answer, terrible,
Like to.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Central, all I can think about is my favorite family
feud moment, which it's Steve Harvey asking it's like pork
something and the guy goes loin and he just starts
dying and he says, I can guarantee you that ain't
gonna be up on that board there.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Though.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
You got to know Drake, Yeah, he is just I mean,
he's incredibly articulate, and I can see why there's so
much internal belief in him because you heard it with
you Guardsy. I mean, you've had him a couple of
times now. You you watched him with the Fox nine crew,
and I did my own interview with him. His ability
to recall details crazy and and kind of repeat it

(32:48):
back or even I went I went through with him,
what what was a normal day like for you? And
he's talking about how, you know, last year, you know
he would get to the facility at five point thirty
and again and he's eighteen nineteen years old, and he's
thinking that's plenty early, and he goes, i'd get there
and Max Brozmer's locker had been open for forty five minutes,
and he goes, it hit me that I have to

(33:09):
it just has to be different here, and he gets
the facility so early. He talks about how he's watching
film with a couple of the receivers for an hour
to a day. Then he's drawing out the plays, and
then before these player led practices, he's looking at the
play call sheet repeating it to himself because he doesn't
want to stutter. He wants to make sure he sounds confident.

(33:31):
And I'm thinking to myself, you haven't even started a
Big ten game yet, and I will continue to throw
this disclaimer out there. I don't know if Drake Lindsay's
going to be much good. I think he's going to
be pretty good. And I understand why you look at
these Big ten quarterback rankings and why he is usually
at the bottom, if not bottom three. But the things
he's able to do mentally at nineteen years old aren't

(33:55):
like the previous young starters to me, at least in
this mind, especially with the way Harbo won wants to
run this offense and putting a lot on the quarterback.
I'm excited to kind of see what it looks like
for Drake one to thirteen.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, you know, we don't know how good he's gonna be,
but he's taking the steps, he's doing the right things,
and that's all you can ask, right that he's studying
and he's becoming a leader and you know quarterback, right
is it? It's like I saw those for the NFL
there day with JJ McCarthy, Like he's never taken a snap.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
How are we running somebody who's never taken We have.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
No idea, and I know it's based off experience, but
but yeah, I mean all you can go by is
how is a guy preparing and he's doing everything that
he's supposed to be doing and probably then some And
so if they can match that up with the physical,
then you know that they're off to a good start.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Well that's where justin Guard once told me, process over results,
always told me at a young age man.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, so there's a reason why they're comfortable handing it
over to a red shirt freshman in a in an
era where you don't have to do that. You can
go find someone that's played somewhere, you can go find
somebody that's older. They just did it a year ago, right,
And also they did it a couple of years ago.
They got burned by it, you know, given a you know,
red shirt freshman, you know, basically the keys to the

(35:14):
whole program. And so there's probably I mean, I'm sure
they're guarded up against that, like we're doing this again,
like we this better be the guy and we'll see,
we'll see. But he's he doesn't want to know.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
If justin if you still have your keys to Via
Monte Villas.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, it was yeah, via Monte's Villas. That was a
fun couple of weeks, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
And then the spring game came and went and he
had like yeah they did bring in competition.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
He just yeah, well he ended up linebacker at UNLV, Right,
he ended up playing linebacker at U and O, yeah,
that would have been great. Vegas Vick Vegas vic. He
had a little bit of a he had a little
bit of a vibe. Uh, circling all the way back
to what you were saying about quite Paris Burnsey. I
don't know if I agree with you, I don't care.

(36:05):
They could have Tyler Johnson, Rashad Bateman, and Chris Otman
Bell from twenty nineteen. And I'd still want Coy Parrich
to play wide receiver. I don't think I don't think
him playing more is an indictment on the group. I
just think he's such a unique talent. I want the
ball in his hands. If you can get the ball
in his hands, we'll see, and that that's a huge
question mark the group obviously, right, they brought in a

(36:27):
bunch of transfers. PJ talked about a lot of them.
He mentioned Malachi Coleman in the in the podium session, right, like,
he's got elite skills that I haven't seen a lot of.
Now he's got to put it together. We'll see. Obviously,
you mentioned Lamecki Brockington, but I would love Coy Parrich
in addition to a room. Even if the room was good,
I'd say we should still try to find Coy Parrich

(36:47):
in touches because.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
You just never know what's gonna many in my mind
or yeah, in your mind to where it's if I
said the over under again, say there's thirteen games this
season for your Minnesota Golden Gophers, and they don't become
delusional and make the college football playoff. I would say
snaps for him seventy five, I mean you'd be putting

(37:09):
him somewhere around five snaps on offensive game at that point. Again,
I think it's gonna be very I think it's gonna
be very niche especially early on.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Again, you find ways when he is on the field,
if he is on the field for seventy five snaps,
you try to get him forty touches on the seventy
five snaps, like you're not gonna sneak up on anybody
or yeah, right, you know if when he is on
the field, he's gonna have coverages thrown his way and
then you can hopefully adjust to somewhere else. But I
think a lot of it also is going to be

(37:44):
determined for Koy over these next thirty days. How does
it look in fall camp. They tried to prepare him
in the spring, and he talked about how they prepared
him in the spring. But now he's got to go
prove to them in fall camp that he can be
a receiver. And if it doesn't go well, then I
know that that seventy five snap mark on offense is
going to be accurate if it does go well. I
don't know that that seventy five snap mark is going

(38:06):
to be accurate, but I understand what you're saying with
how dynamic he is and things of that nature. I
just I want to see how it all kind of
goes right here over the next thirty.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Days, all right, anything else we want to cover for
media days before we talk a little big ten playoff
SEC battle, things like that. I think we kind of
covered most of it. It was a fun fact.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Thing I'd say is from talking with Darius Taylor, the
whole health is his wealth thing in terms of touches
is now just completely out of sight, out of mind
for him in terms of you know, I think this
quote was I've gotten rid of the goal of to
stay healthy and past that, okay, because he did play

(38:50):
in twelve consecutive games last year. Now, there were a
couple of games where he's banged up, where he missed
the North Carolina game certainly, but I think between talking
with Flack and Darius about it, they're past it now.
Whether that's going to remain true. He's still a running
back and he talked about that, where I'm a running
back in the Big Ten like I'm gonna get hit

(39:11):
and I'm gonna be you know the difference between hurt
and injured. And that's where he's put in. And I
talked to some people over there before Big ten days,
and they're telling me that this is about as locked
in as they've seen him with taking care of his
body and his goal for tenure, with going to the
recovery suite, getting massages, working with the strength and conditioning

(39:32):
snaff about mobility and stretching in different things of that
nature to try and mitigate all these soft tissue injuries.
But I think Chip, you could be able to tell
us he's still going to get twenty touches a game,
which is true, but that's in arguably the most physical
conference in all of college football, which there's a toll
that comes with that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, if you're worried about it.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
That's like neat, Yeah, I mean it's it's like you're
going to take a a beating. I mean, you're playing
in a physical conference, You're playing in a physical position.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
It just happened.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
The one thing I noticed because at the media day
he is very strong, Like when you see his upper body,
I mean he's I don't know if he's added weight,
muscle or whatever. But he is a very strong, chiseled
running back, and so I'm sure he's probably learned. As
all players do, is they you know, go through it

(40:27):
more and get more experience a routine that works for them,
whether it's recovery, diet.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
All those things.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
You just see, you have more information available as you
you know, you're not getting that level expertise at high
school and so when you're in a program a couple
of years you sort of figure out.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Doesn't mean he's not going to get injured.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
No, But again, process he's doing the things that that
helped him last year is down the field and you
can't worry about those things are out of your control.
What you can control is putting your body in the
best position get ready. So I'm glad he has that
frame of mind right that you can't just be looking
over your show or waiting, you know, that type thing. So,
but I I was it really kind of struck me

(41:10):
how put together and strong he looks.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Well.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I think the quote he said I might have used
it last week. You got to put money into the
business so the business can make money. I mean, that's
what he told Grimm and me when we were at
the media day and we had him and he was
coming off the massage. I think I said that last
week nine o'clock. He got done at nine, joined us
at nine oh five. Got to put money in the business,
so the business makes money. So there you go. That's

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Speaker 2 (43:20):
All right, we still don't have any resolution on the
college football playoff. Tony Petiti finally kind of broke his
silence in Las Vegas and answered a lot of questions
about their format. I'm not gonna throw all the numbers
at you. There's five and eleven, there's four, four, two,
two one. I don't know, it's complicated, but we mentioned
Scott Doctrman at the top. He wrote a story I
think in the last day or two and the Athletic
basically saying Tony Petiti did his best to sell a

(43:42):
plan that has got very little support outside of the
Big Ten, outside of the coaches, and outside of the
athletic directors. And Petiti's point was, our coaches like it
because they had input on it, and to give people
kind of the cliff notes of it. He does want
to do almost like a wild card weekend where team's three, four, five,
and six have an opportunity to play in for one
of the automatic Big Ten bids that he wants to

(44:05):
have and the Big Ten wants to have in the
new expanded, new College Football Playoff, hopefully for the year
twenty twenty six. They have till December first to do it.
To figure this whole thing out. SEC still doesn't love it.
They want the five and eleven acc Big twelve. They
don't love it because they've only got two spots, And
where are we going with this? Guys? It seems like

(44:26):
we're kind of at a standstill here, but the Big
Ten is holding ground with their four four two to one.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
My guess is that you're just gonna stay at twelve
for a while now, for the least the short term.
I mean, I think a lot of us thought they'd
rush this into sixteen because there's more money to be
had and made, and everybody needs more money with.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
With revenue sharing coming on board.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
But there is a standoff between the two heavyweights here,
and I don't know who budget is first. Somebody's gonna
have to somebody's gonna have to come off their position.
I don't know if it's the SEC. I don't know if
it's a Big Ten. I think I'm on record saying
I don't favor just automatically guaranteeing four spots for the

(45:08):
Big Ten, four for the SEC. I just I think
it should be earned, you know. And but I understand
the Big Tens position of we're playing nine conference games,
we're playing eight.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
You know, there's that SEC bias. So if you're leaving
it up to a selection committee.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
I think in most years, the Big ten's gonna have four,
the SEC is gonna have four.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Some of the years they may have more.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
That's the numbers. But TD brought That's kind of how
he came up with those numbers, was his They brought,
you know, twenty five years of data saying this is
what would have happened had we had this plan, and
it was roughly what you know, the four four two
two two one bit.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
And I think the SEC, you know, they've they've had
their you know, this is the toughest conference, and uh,
you know, I was going through I actually went through
the two four seven rankings recruiting rankings.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
What a great set of recruiting rankings many people are
talking about.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yeah, but it's this whole thing is based on recruiting,
right there. Their belief and a lot of it's, hey,
the you know, the national championships that they won all
those years. But if you go through it, every year,
the SEC is going to have in the top fifteen rankings,
They're going to have half of them.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
And so they's because why, well, where do all the
majority of these four and five stars across the country.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, well, that's it.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
I mean it's because they get, you know, the most
talent because they're in the.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
South, and so there's that belief that they have more talent.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
So even whatever the rankings say, they believe that, you know,
that conference has more talent, and if you go by
recruiting rankings, they do. So they're saying, why should we
come off eight? Our eight is tougher than you know,
And it's that whole thing of all eight and four
finishes aren't created equally, you know, and whether whether you
believe that or not, they believe it. And so I

(47:00):
don't know if they're gonna come off to eight, maybe
they will go to nine.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
I don't know. But I don't know who's gonna blink
first here.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I really don't, which is why to your point, we
might be at twelve for a while, because I don't see.
From talking with a lot of different Big ten people
out in Vegas, it seems like every Big ten coach
and Tony Petit Petiti are in lockstep about if we're
going to compromise on our model, then the SEC needs

(47:30):
to play nine games because us playing nine conference games
and the SEC only playing eight. I think a lot
of the Big Ten coaches agree is not fair in
their minds. So if they don't believe that's fair, and
Petiti doesn't believe that's fair, so to your point, we
might be here in the staring contest for a while.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
What is the Have you seen any stories the difference
in revenue between a twelve team and a sixteen team?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I have, If I have, I forgot it.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
I mean, is it like so significant that they have
to do this? Because I'm sure I wonder how many
money on the.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Table sport now? Is just more money everywhere?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I'm wondering how much?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, well, and that's why Petiti wants to do the
playing game thing, because those are two other games that
are potentially sellable. How do you guys feel about that
part of the plan. You're adding games, but you're adding money,
and that's what everybody wants. And honestly, I'll just tell
you what I think. I I kind of like it.
I like I like the accessibility of it for a

(48:34):
lot of different because, like you said, even a six
and three Big Ten schedule is not equal to another
six and three Big Ten schedule, right depending on who
you played and where you played them. I mean think
about Wisconsin Indiana last year. Like, so I do like
the idea of I do, and I know I'm probably
in the minority, but I like the idea of five

(48:54):
and six having a chance. It'd have to go to
three and four to do it, But I like, I
know that what people think, it waters it down and
everybody gets a trophy. But I like, you got to
give people a reason to invest these these hundreds of
millions of dollars that you're being asked to do.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
I think you'd create excitement obviously, because you're you're creating
a you know, potential play in type thing. But I'm
sure coaches would say, you know, now, wait a second,
we went through an entire conference. We finished third in
this conference, and now we could be possibly you.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Know maybe, but some years might they might be six though,
and they might have an opportunity. You could play that.
You could play that either way.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
But you know, I can't remember the national as you
can imagine the national guys, uh weren't crazy about what
Patiti said.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Uh right, Uh.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
But you know the thing is that if you're sixth
in your conference, do you deserve to be in a playoff?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Right? Yeah? And I see that but we're expanding it.
Like there, you're about to have fourteen teams in the
Big ten make the NCAA tournament, you know when they
expanded to seventy two or seventy six whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
So do you guys like guarantee in four again we're
probably splitting here is because they're gonna get four most years.
I just I guess that from from the start. I
don't like guaranteeing that many spots to one conference.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
See, I still think the most if this thing is going,
somebody's gonna blink, it's gonna be the SEC saying okay,
we'll play nine, and then the Big ten says okay,
we'll go to your model.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Then yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
But I also want to clarify here for the Indiana point,
we have to all remember that Indiana last year didn't play, yeah,
the greatest schedule, but also they hopped in their eighteen
foot of lumacraft and they boat raced the absolute crap
out of like eighty percent of the teams on their schedule,
like and it wasn't even close.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, So I didn't have a problem with the.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
D YA about like, no, we I think we all
everyone and I know we talked about it last year,
but just so people remember, like it's not that Indiana
was winning these games by three points like it was
Minnesota's twenty nineteen not com friend schedule. They were absolutely
obliterating opponents.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Well, and the other thing is it's like, okay, you
can pick your non conference, you don't pick your conference
like that. They did what they were supposed to do.
It wasn't their fault who they got lined up with
in the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
So it's wasn't their fault. Michigan and Washington sucked.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I know.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, it's like compared to the year before when they
were in the National championship that.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
I mean, you don't have to apologize for who they've
beaten it now, you know, non conference, it will be
interesting to see.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Who did Indiana buy.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Out of Virginia?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Virginia. Yeah, you know it'll.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Be You saw the comments then from I think it
will Yeah, well this is what the SEC does. So
what do I get?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, I mean it's not.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
And loves to go watch his Tennessee volunteers play the Citadel.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Well, it's always it's always crazy to me that it'll
be like the SEC will have like just the random
throw in game late in the conferences.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Like what a buzz kill that is. You try to
build toward something and all of a sudden it's like, Okay,
we're playing UAB this week. Yeah, yeah, I maybe you're right.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Maybe they both have to compromise, Maybe they go nine,
SEC goes nine, and then the Big ten will agree
to five and eleven.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
But I just don't see the Big ten blinking until
someone from the SEC can acknowledge the eight versus non
conference game, of which I don't think the SEC wants
to acknowledge it. No, And then in turn, here we
go running around chasing our tails.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Cause again no'll go back to you look at the recruiting,
you look at the rankings. There's more talent here. It's harder,
whether you believe it or not. That's what they're gonna say.
But I do wonder, Like, again, that's why I like
to know how much money they're leaving on a table
between the difference between the twelve and sixteen. If it's substantial.
In these schools are laying off people and doing all

(52:54):
these things to try to come up with revenue sharing,
there's gonna be real pressure to say, figure it out, because.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
We need that money.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Well, maybe do. We'll do some homework before next week's
episode and we'll figure out how much the revenue is
and if they need to do this. But stay tuned
because this is not going anywhere. Remember, they have until
December first, I think is their self imposed deadline to
figure it out for next season and we'll see who
blinks first in the college football playoff World. Anything else, guys,
great to see you, anything else being the I'm glad

(53:20):
we all made it back from Vegas.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
We have practice is starting. Is that what we had
we had fall campus?

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah? Wait, Saturday open to the public Saturday night, Huntington
Bank Stadium. If people want to go, go for sports
dot Com for info there. Burns he'll be there. Burns,
he'll be there. He can't wait. He can't wait. He's
very excited about the access he's being granted on Saturday night.
And we'll see when else Burnsy can get there. It'll
be great. I'm looking forward to the tweets about that.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
I look forward to learning officially when I do get
to go outside of Saturday. But yes, Saturday, six pm,
BTM will be there, fans will be there. I think
there's a dipe is a diaper and or drive or
one of the two.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, the diaper drive, and then if you have an
ore that you want to paint for your family to
hang in the tunnel, which is awesome, by the way.
If people haven't, it is very cool that they do that.
That's all there for you too. Yeah, they do. They
have done the same thing the last handful of years.
The diaper drive, which always does really well. And then
painting the oars. It's fun. A lot of players have
oars down there, like from their families, which is cool.

(54:15):
So check all that out, Like Burnsy said, six o'clock
Huntington Banks Stadium, and maybe before go have you know,
quick meal at Jack's Cafe or maybe go after make
your reservation for Saturday night. Get yourself ready for the
fall jxcafe dot com. Great to see you guys. We'll
see you next week. We gotta go weekly now, don't we.
We got a lot more to talk.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
About thirty days. Let's do it on.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Let's go all right, We will talk to you next
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