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December 22, 2024 52 mins
  • Pastor Orlando Zepeda
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God is good, amen.

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I bless the family of kings.
I bless the mother of our sister Jimenez.
I bless the mother of Flor as well.
I bless you all.
I bless everyone. God bless us, beloved.
Who doesn't want to be blessed by God?
Receive greetings. We are back.

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We were ministering last week at the Sena Antigua Houston church.
They celebrated their eighth anniversary.
We are happy.
Receive greetings from the pastors, from the church.
God is good. God did great things.
Wonderful things, beloved brothers.
God be the honor and glory. Amen.
But for the luck of you, we are back, brothers.

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I heard a very good report that you behaved very well last week.
I heard that you enjoyed the word as well.
The powerful word that God poured in our midst.
God is good, amen.
And we continue to rejoice, amen.
At the end, I give you the announcements that we have.
First Corinthians chapter 12.
We resume the topic that we have been talking about in the last few weeks.

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Knowing the Holy Spirit, amen.
First Corinthians chapter 12.
Versicles of the moon in front.
When you have it, it indicates it with a strong amen.
Pastor, why the topic?
Because still in the middle of the 21st century, where we live, beloved brother,

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you would be surprised how many people within the churches
who are said to be called Christians have never had an experience with the Holy Spirit.
They do not know the operating modes, how it moves, how it works, how it works,
how it manifests.
And in 1 Corinthians chapter 12, the Apostle Paul gives us one or several

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of the many ways of manifestation of the Spirit.
We already talked about the word of wisdom, the word of science, the word of faith,
where of health, where of miracles, and where of prophecy.
Today this week we have the last three, which are the gift of discernment,
the gift of speaking in languages, and the interpretation of languages.

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1 Corinthians chapter 12, verses of the moon in front.
The word of the Lord says in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
I do not want brothers who ignore the spiritual gifts.
You know that when you were kind, you were misled,
taking us as you are taken to the mute idols.
Therefore, I make you know that no one who speaks for the Spirit of God calls Jesus anathema,

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and no one can call Jesus Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.
Now there is a diversity of gifts, but the Spirit is the same.
And there is a diversity of ministries, but the Lord is the same.
And there is a diversity of operations, but God who does all things in all is the same.
But each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the benefit.

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This verse 7, in other versions, says that the manifestation of the Spirit is given to us
for the benefit of others.
That is clear, 7.
Because this one says nothing for the same Spirit, a word of wisdom.
Another word of science according to the same Spirit.
Another faith for the same Spirit, and other gifts of health for the same Spirit.

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Another one of miracles, another prophecy, another discernment of spirits,
another different language genres, and another interpretation of languages.
But all these things are done by one and the same Spirit,
and we are all part of each other, in particular, as He wants us to be.
Word of God.
Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you for the privilege that you give me once more,

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Lord, in this day, to be before the Grey,
the washed with your blood, the bought, Lord eternal, the redeemed, with your blood blessed.
Father, give me strength, wisdom, and understanding to speak of you as I should do.
That no corrupted word comes out of my lips, but that word that rhymes,
that word that unifies, I will be careful to give you honor and glory.
Holy Spirit, take your place.
Lord, that no word, Lord eternal, strange, come out of my lips,

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but that which unifies, that word rhymes.
And the people who love the coming of Christ say,
you can take your place.
But each one gives to the manifestation of the Spirit,
for the benefit of others.
And as we have been saying in the previous classes, or previous sessions,

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or previous preachings, or teachings, as you want to take,
we have spoken, beloved brothers, I could say it until the tiredness,
that the manifestation, that the gift, that the power of the Holy Spirit
has been given to us for the benefit of you.
That is, the ability that God has put in my life is for the benefit of his own,
what God has put in his life is for the benefit of mine.
It is not for me to profit, it is not for me to act,

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it is not to teach how much I am honored, how powerful, how holy,
how much knowledge, how many words of science I have.
No, no, no, it is for you to be edified, the words say.
It is for you to be edified.
In the times we live, I understand, beloved brothers,
that as I teach the word, and when we look at the gift of prophecy,
here are many false prophets, there are many people who occupy the manifestation,

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the gift of the Holy Spirit to make profit, to benefit themselves.
The Spirit tells me, the Spirit tells me that here are so many,
that they are going to give me so many, when the Spirit of God has not said absolutely nothing,
when the Spirit of God does not move in that way.
And many people, beloved brothers, fall into that mistake,
believing, beloved brothers, that it is the Holy Spirit who is actually speaking,

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when it is not the Spirit of God.
But people fall into that game because people probably speak nicely,
because they have a good lexicon, or because probably, beloved brothers,
they have a piety appearance, as the Bible says.
But the word teaches us the book of the prophet, that is, it says,
my people asked because they lacked knowledge.
That is, people do not know how to move from the Holy Spirit.

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People do not know how the Holy Spirit works.
We are studying, beloved brothers, the Book of Acts,
Wednesdays, by the way, come, I remind you, the classes are very interesting.
We are seeing there chapter 2, chapter 3, and the Book of Acts
tells us about the fall, the official way, beloved brothers,
of the fall of the Holy Spirit, how it works, how it moves.

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We are seeing it from the perspective, history of the Church, and government of the Church,
but above all, the manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
But remember, keep this in mind, that it is given to us for the benefit, says the Bible, for the benefit.
Let's continue, these beloved brothers, remember that it is divided into three sections.
We speak the first part, the word of wisdom, the word of science, and the gift of faith.

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Then came the gifts of health, miracles, and prophecy, we have divided them into three.
Today in this morning we have the gift of discernment, the gift of speaking in languages,
and the gift of interpretation of languages.
We start with the first, the gift of discernment.
There in verse 10 it says, to another to do miracles, to another prophecy, to another discernment.
What is the gift of discernment?

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You hear that the pastor every time, beloved, is emphasizing and saying,
brother ask for the gift of discernment, brother ask for guidance from God, brother ask for wisdom from God,
that the Spirit of God be the one who reveals us.
The gift of discernment is the ability to distinguish or differentiate between something and others.
It also refers to the ability to understand what is dark and to appreciate what is good and what is bad.

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That is, the gift of discernment is that ability that God gives us so that we can really see,
beloved brothers, who is God and who is not God.
What is God's gift?
And what is not God's gift of discernment?
In 1 John chapter 4, the apostle Paul speaks about this, come with me to the Bible.
1 John chapter 4, look at what the scripture says.

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In 1 John chapter 4, verses from Monday onwards, it says, beloved, do not create all spirits,
but test the spirits if they are God's.
The Bible does not say that we test the spirits, weigh the spirits, says the other version.
That is, check if the spirit that lives or that is speaking through this person really comes from God.

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Life says that we have to question.
This morning you have the obligation, you have the responsibility to question me or question yourself,
if it is the Spirit of God who is speaking to your lives,
if it is God who is speaking or not God who is speaking to the lives of each of us.
As believers we have the obligation to do it.
The gift of discernment.
But how do we acquire it? How are we going to know?

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The gift of discernment.
How are we going to know when someone truly beloved brothers is speaking from God or not speaking from God?
Because many people do not know.
To everyone they say Amen.
To everyone they say Amen.
Brothers, the devil is taking many people to hell.
Amen! One shouts out there.
Amen, that the devil is taking people.
No!
We say Amen to everyone.

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It is that the pastor said it and as the pastor said it, so it is.
And many times we take the word of the pastor as if the word of the pastor were God's.
We have to question.
We have to question.
We have to ask ourselves why.
The why.
Pastor, why do we do this in the church?
Why don't we do this?
Why do they do this?
Why don't they do it here?
Why don't we?
Why? Why?
We have the obligation to do it.

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The word of the Lord teaches us and tells us,
We have to be
to be
because in them they say,
in them they give testimony of me
and in them they find eternal life and give testimony of me.
But that is the problem, that they deceive us because we don't read the Bible.
We come to read it when we come here, we open it,
on the contrary, they leave it in the back of the car.

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Or they put it in front of the dice so that they can see that it is Christian.
Hello?
But to read it?
To read it?
There are many people who bring the verses marked.
They bring the Bible marked.
But the Bible never marked them.
Hello?
The Bible never marked them.
But they don't know the move of the Holy Spirit.
That is why they are deceived.

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That is why they are deceived because we don't read the Bible.
Because only what we hear,
we go nowadays with technology on the Internet
and everything we see on the Internet, we say Amen to everything.
We say Amen to everything.
You know that there are a lot of people there who preach
and teach many things and apparently they look beautiful.
But they edit all that.
Their doctrine, their background, what does it say?

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Well, we don't take our time.
We don't take our time.
We invest in so many other things.
We invest our time in so many other things.
On Facebook, on TikTok, on how to say it, all of that.
But in the Word of God.
How much do we invest?
How are we going to get the gift of discernment?

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How are we going to know when God is speaking and when God is not speaking?
That is why we are deceived.
That is why we are deceived.
Pablo told Timoteo,
preach the Word, time and beyond time.
Do you like it or not?
Are you proud or not?
Brother, maybe you should bring the evangelist again.
He is happier.

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The pastor is back to scold us.
No, I am not scolding you.
We are learning.
That is why many people are deceived.
Many people are mocked nowadays.
That is why there are many people, brothers and sisters,
who go like the waves of the sea.
From here to there, from there to here.
Why? Because they are being deceived.
Because there is no discernment.
They do not have the ability, the ability to distinguish

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the Bible.
This morning, we had a talk with the Dominican Church
about the Antichrist.
The things that this is going to do.
There are many people who are going to be deceived.
Do you know why?
Because they never came to a Dominican school.
Because they never listened.
Because they never studied the subject.
They never had the delicacy of saying,
Pastor, we want to learn more about the signs of the last time.

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Because when the study of the Book of Revelation was published,
it was not there.
That is why the Antichrist is going to deceive many.
That is why the Bible says, Peter says,
it is possible to deceive even the chosen ones.
Why? Because they never went to the Dominican school.
They never went to a study on Wednesdays to learn.
How are they going to know if it is from God or not?
And they are going to tell the Antichrist.
The Bible says it.
That even many chosen ones are going to be deceived.

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If it is possible, it says,
even many of the chosen ones will be deceived.
Why? Because they do not have the gift of discernment.
They do not know what is happening.
They do not know what is happening.
We left the popular tradition
of Sunday, of the Church.
Only on Sundays, only on Sundays.
And here we are the same, we are Sunday people.
Ah, but how do we judge the Catholic brothers?
But here we are the same, we are Sunday people.

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And that is where discernment is.
That the Lord is giving me.
Which is where discernment is?
If I look at them, they do not come.
If I look at them, they do not come.
But the Lord reveals us.
The Lord shows us, brothers and sisters,
through His Holy Spirit.
Through His Holy Spirit.
Through His Holy Spirit.
What comes from God and what does not come from God?

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Paul says in the letter to the Romans,
that if the same Spirit,
that raised up Jesus from the dead,
will also be your dead bodies.
And he says that the same Spirit
testifies our spirit, if we are truly
the children of God.
So when the Spirit of God is in us,
when the Spirit of God is in us,
the Spirit testifies,
if the Spirit that is in my sister, that is in my brother,

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is the same that dwells in me.
If it is the Spirit of God.
And do you know that the Spirit is attracted?
The Spirit is attracted.
Look at the gossipers.
Look at the gossipers.
Oh brothers,
it is a magnetism.
They come together.
The gossipers and the gossipers come together.

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Because there are also gossipers today.
But look at that little sister
that is not gossip, that does not mess with anyone.
Look if they comment on something.
Because the same Spirit does not dwell in the other.
The Spirit of prudence dwells.
The Spirit of God.
But the gossipers
flow in the tongues.
And they are not angelic precisely.

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The Spirit is attracted.
Because when there is a gift of discernment,
when there is a gift of discernment,
I remember on a certain occasion
we went with my wife,
they took us to eat by the way,
we were still members of the church,
we were brothers who wanted to go to the pastoral.
And we went to a restaurant,
but I never took the time
to see what kind of restaurant.

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And they are restaurants that have a
crazy ambience,
like a canteen.
Even the name of the restaurant is empty.
Can you imagine what it is?
And they took us there, already there, in my way.
And I remember that we were making the line, waiting.
But since I entered that place,
my beloved spirit began
to get disturbed.
I felt very strange.

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I did not know what it was, and I looked to one side,
I looked to the other, and I could not identify
what was disturbing my peace, my tranquility.
And I remember that after
about 15-20 minutes I looked back
and I saw a boy with a spirit of homosexuality.
And I have nothing against homosexuals.
Do not misinterpret me.
Come so that God changes you,
so that God transforms you.
You can say Amen. Come, come, come.

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We are not going to close the door to anyone.
But so that God touches you, so that God transforms you.
And when I turned to see that boy
making some gestures and a face,
and that disturbed my spirit.
It disturbed my spirit.
The day before yesterday we were walking with my wife in the stores.
Beloved brothers, and we went in one or two stores.
Brother, I went out with my spirit.
Because if you want to get disturbed,
go to the stores today,

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to the parking lots, and look at how people are going crazy.
I was standing like this,
in a peaceful place.
I was looking at people, and I said, my God, what is this?
What spirit are these people?
The spirit of Santa Claus.
And I did not come from Grinche.
I did not come to see the party, to anyone.
But brothers, people are walking.
They are disturbed.
Even to drive, brothers,

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in the parking lots.
Yes, by itself, we are crazy here in Texas
to drive.
But people are disturbed.
And I went out with my wife and said, let's go, please.
Let's go, let's go. I can't stand being here anymore.
And I did not come to give her a
urf of a hurtful headache.
And my wife told me,

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And I went and turned to the
other trailer over there,
and that's how I got
the teeth of the
tree.
But I believe that
after this great
cause of this fire
I have been
given this

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because I'd known
the spirit of the antichrist, the one you have heard,
that comes and is now in the world.
Son, you are God's and you have overcome it,
because the greater is the one who is in you than the one who is in the world.
They are of the world, that is why they speak of the world, and the world hears them.
We are God's and the one who knows God hears us,
and the one who is God hears us.

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In this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Can you hear the spirit of God this morning?
Because if you don't hear it, you are doing the other.
Because what I am talking about here is the word of God.
I am not reading anything else that is the word of God.
I am not telling you any Chinese story.
I am telling you what the Bible says, the spirit of discernment.

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I repeat, many people say to everyone, Amen.
For everyone, Amen, for everyone, Amen.
Don't waste time to find out, to ask,
why brother, do we do this? Why do we stop doing this?
Why this manifestation? Why is it done here? Why is it done there?
Ask, question, and that is why the Dominican School,
that is why the studies, on Wednesdays,
so that we come and learn, beloved brothers,

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and know the Holy Spirit better and we don't let ourselves be deceived.
Look today at so many manifestations that are judged by the Holy Spirit.
They say that it is the spirit of God told me,
God told me when God has not said anything,
when God has not spoken anything,
God has not said anything.
But people tell everyone, Amen.
The spirit reveals to me, beloved, that this morning,

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on this side, where are the ten more?
No, don't believe me.
That on this side, they are going to get up to 500,
sorry, ten with 500.
And they tell us to help for the orphan child's dining room,
there in El Salvador, no, they say it is for them.
What kind of spirit is that?
We are seeing that the Word teaches us that the Spirit has given us for the benefit of others,
not for me, not for me.

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So from there we are discerning, beloved brothers,
from there we have to have the capacity, the ability to understand if God is speaking or not.
Who is God speaking? You can say Amen.
And look how beautiful God is,
that all this, the last three, He put them in the same category.
Because what comes next, He says that He speaks to us about the gift of languages.
The gift of languages.

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Because to another He has given, He says, for the same spirit,
different genres of languages.
Different genres of languages.
What are the languages? Languages.
As we have been studying, beloved brothers, in the Book of Acts,
when the day came to Pentecost, the Holy Spirit came and began to speak in other languages.
And all the people who were there said that these are not Galileans,

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that we hear them speak in our native language in which we were born,
they spoke languages,
such as French, Mandarin, Italian, any other language.
So the people who had gathered there, they were heard praising and telling, says the Bible,
the wonders of God.
We hear them speak in our own language.
And they tell the wonders and greatness of God, the Holy Spirit.

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So different languages, genres of languages.
Genres of languages.
But what is the gift of speaking in languages?
Come with me to the Bible.
There where we are in 1 Corinthians chapter 14.
What is speaking in languages?
I will tell you later that this is one of the most coveted or desired gifts within the Church.

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But what is the gift of speaking in languages?
It says, follow love.
I am in 1 Corinthians 14.1.
Follow love and seek spiritual gifts.
But above all, that you prophesy.
Because the one who speaks in languages does not speak to men, but to God,
because no one understands him, even though he speaks mysteries by spirit.
But the one who prophesies, says, speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation.

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The one who speaks in a strange language also edifies himself.
But the one who prophesies edifies the Church.
So I would like all of you to know in languages.
But more than prophesies, because the one who prophesies is the one who speaks in a language,
rather than the one who interprets them, so that the Church receives edification.
So this is the gift of speaking in languages.
The gift of speaking in languages, beloved brothers, is communion with God.
According to the Word.

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It is communion with God.
It is the language that God speaks.
It is the language that God understands.
It is through the language.
The Holy Spirit, brothers, chapter 8, verse 28-29, says that, no, from verse 32 forward, I think,
He says that, how shall we ask? We do not know.
But the Holy Spirit that prays in us, says that He helps us intercede according to the needs of others.

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The Holy Spirit, when we pray in the Holy Spirit, beloved brothers,
the Holy Spirit is the one who prays for us according to the needs of others.
He intercedes according to the needs of others.
Many times there are people that you and I do not even know,
but God puts us praying for those people, for that ministry.
Why? Because it is the Spirit that knows the needs that are in those people or in that Church.
And it is the language that God understands through the Holy Spirit.

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He says that whoever speaks in a strange language, the mystery speaks.
Men do not speak, but speak with God.
He speaks with God. The one who prophesies speaks with men.
So whoever brings a prophecy, we were seeing it last week, the other time we were talking about this,
which is parading, exhortation and consolation.
The prophecy.
But whoever speaks in a strange language, he himself is edified.

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Another benefit that we find in speaking in languages is for personal edification.
And here I am talking about angelic languages.
When we talk about languages, things that you and I understand,
our spirit, our soul is edifying.
It is being edified.
Now, when people speak in languages, I ask myself,

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are they edified?
Are they being edified?
Because I know a lot of people who speak in languages, in quotes,
but there is no change in their lives.
Hello?
I know a lot of people who speak in languages, but to obey God, nothing.
But they flow in languages. What languages are they? I do not know.

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But to follow God's will, none.
To do God's will, nothing.
To gather, nothing.
To offer, to read the Bible, to have breakfast, to participate, nothing.
But they speak in languages.
So someone explain that to me.
They have revelations, they have manifestations,
but they do not want to involve in anything.
They have a very bad, negative attitude,

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that if the Holy Spirit really died in them,
they would not have that kind of attitude, that kind of character, that behavior.
But they speak in angelic languages.
And we are saints, brothers and sisters.
And holiness to God.
But the behavior to others,
your attitude to others,
reflects that the Holy Spirit really dies in us.

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Hello?
But there are many people who speak in languages today.
Or at least pretending to speak in languages.
Because I know a lot of people who do the only thing,
is to imitate the one who is next to them.
Only three or four sounds are memorized.
Of which the apostle Paul speaks.
And he says that we are like cymbals that fall down.
That they have no sense.

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We are like the dishes that you touch just to touch them.
We are a hollow cymbal.
That's how many people today, hollow spiritually.
Full of appearances.
Full of holiness.
Appearance of holiness.
But the acts.

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The word of God says that the tree is known for the fruits.
For the fruits.
Don't tell me how much you know about God.
Don't tell me how much fullness you have of the Holy Spirit.
Show me.
Someone confronted me the day before yesterday.
And he said to me, pastor, you have to preach with your acts.
Not by command.
I was joking there with my father.
He told me that I had to do something.

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I said, no, I'm not going to do it.
He said, but you are a pastor.
You are a pastor.
Because that's the first thing we do.
Because we pastors are forced to lower our heads.
Everyone else can do it and let them do it.
And they don't have a reason.
But the pastors do.
We pastors do.
Why? Because we are pastors.
I understand the obligation and who we represent.

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But I was joking and I said, no, I'm not going to do it.
And he said, you have to preach with the example.
We have to preach with the example.
If the Spirit of God really dies in us.
Let's not say it. Let's live according to the Spirit of God.
Are you with me?
I get very excited when I play these topics.
Because the Church has to be built.
The Church has to learn.

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And then comes the second part.
And also, the gift of language.
It is the initial evidence of the manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
Book of Acts.
Let's go to Acts chapter 2.
It is the initial manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2.1

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It says, when the day came to Pentecost, they were all unanimous.
And suddenly, from the heavens, there was a thunderbolt, like a gust of wind,
that blew, which filled the whole house where they were sitting.
And they appeared to him, tongues spread like fire, sitting on each of them.
And they were all full of the Holy Spirit.
And they began to speak in other languages according to the Spirit.
He gave them to speak.
It is the Spirit.

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Here it was manifested in tongues spread like fire.
And they began to speak in other languages, in other languages.
According to the Spirit, they were given to speak.
It is the Spirit who gives what we have to speak.
It is the Spirit who dictates what we have to say.
It is the Spirit who teaches us, who guides us, to what we have to speak.
Who do we have to speak to?
It is the Holy Spirit of God.

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Jesus Himself said it.
I do not speak of my own words.
What I have seen and heard from the Father, I speak of that and I do that.
Jesus Himself said it.
It is the manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus had to be invested in the power of the Holy Spirit.
We see it there in the baptism, in the Gospel according to St. Matthew, chapter 4.
That the Spirit of God descended in a corporal form, it says, of a dove.

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Not that the Holy Spirit is a dove, but that He descended in the form of a dove on that occasion.
Here He descended in tongues spread like fire.
We see that Jesus Himself, not because He could not, but because He wanted to give us an example.
To show us that we need the fullness of the Holy Spirit.
The gift of discernment.
Not because He was not in Him, but to give us an example.

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That we also need to be baptized with the Holy Spirit.
But many people do not know Him, they are afraid of Him.
But the truth is, who are they afraid of, is the question.
What are they afraid of?
To stop sinning?
They are not afraid of that.
Or we are so attached to sin that we do not want to let go.

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And the Spirit is speaking to us.
And He comes and raises someone through the gift of tongue and says to us,
So says the Lord.
Many times He does not have to speak in tongues.
Oh, thank you, Father.
If He is speaking to you in your own language and you do not understand,
now if He speaks to you in your own language, much less.
If He is speaking to us in our own language,

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and sometimes He speaks in English too.
Oh, so that you understand.
If you do not understand in Spanish, we also throw English there,
there is also half, but so that you understand.
But we do not understand.
We do not understand.
That the Spirit of God manifests in our lives for the benefit.
That the Spirit is speaking to us for the benefit of ourselves.
That we are the benefitted ourselves.

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But we need to look for that fullness.
This was said to them, this 120 was said to them,
that they stay in Jerusalem.
Stay until you are invested in the power of the Almighty.
Until the promise comes upon you,
the power of the Holy Spirit.
But how many do we want to look for?
Nobody.
With holy vocations they go, with holy vocations they come.

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They proclaim fast, they proclaim prayer.
Nobody.
We do not want to look for fullness.
When was the last time you had a manifestation of the Spirit?
When was the last time you spoke in tongues?
Has it been baptized in tongues?
When?
When was the last time that He revealed something to you?
Ah?
No, I was walking down the hall, pastor,
and in the bathroom I heard in tongues.

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Hmm?
When was the last time that you had a manifestation?
This is what the Bible says, as we have been studying,
they were unanimous, together, in prayer and in fast,
sharing the word when the pouring of the Holy Spirit came.
But what about us?
What about us?
When? At what time?
When do we dedicate time to Him?
When do we take time?

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When does He come and visit us?
When does He come and fill us with His presence?
When do we take time?
Pastor, I am very busy, I am very busy.
Perfect.
The early morning is the best time to seek God.
Nobody bothers you.
Nobody, nobody.
And there all these sermons come out.
Two, three, four in the morning these sermons come out
where nobody is bothering me, where everyone is grumbling.

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Only me and Him, me and no one else bothers you.
But how do I leave my bed, Pastor, if it is so rich,
imagine how I leave my comfort.
How?
How? How?
We do not dedicate time to the Holy Spirit.
And with that comes also the third part of this gift,

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the gift of the Spirit, the gift of speaking in tongues
and the interpretation of speaking in tongues,
which is one of the great problems we have in the Church.
The famous God told me when God has not said anything.
God has not said anything.
The interpretation of tongues.
1 Corinthians chapter 14 verse 5.

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So I would like you all to speak in tongues,
but more than prophesy,
because the one who prophesies is the one who speaks in tongues,
unless the one who is the centipede so that the Church receives edification.
Now, brothers, if I go to you speaking in tongues,
what will you take advantage of if I do not speak with revelation or conscience or with prophesy or with doctrine?
So Paul says, brothers, that there must be an interpreter within the Church.

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There must be someone who interprets the tongues.
And I am going to tell you something, because the Spirit is so wonderful.
You can speak in tongues, but you cannot interpret them.
And someone else cannot speak in tongues, but they can receive the interpretation.
It is the Spirit of God.
We have just read it.
It says that the one who does all things in all and for all is one and only, himself.
So it is both the one who gives revelation, the message,

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and the one who interprets it.
God does all things in all.
God is wonderful.
Or you may have the blessing of having buttons.
But with that, a risk is taken,
that the person will be manipulating,
and that is what happens today,
manipulation,
manipulation,
manipulating people,

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making people believe that it is truly the Spirit of God.
On Friday, my sister Marisol came up to me and said,
Pastor, the verse you just shared after the prayer,
where did you take it from, where did you receive it from, where did it fall from,
or how was it?
I was back there and the Lord gave it to me.
And she asked me two or three times,
but Pastor, where did you take it from, or how?

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I was there, on Fridays, when I am praying, I tell her, Dad, give me something.
She says, that same verse,
and she said, Sister, I gave it to you three days ago, or that day in the morning, I don't remember.
There it is.
And we were talking about the word of confirmation,
because we were there in Izaías, right?
Jeremías.
And the Lord will confirm the good word that He has given to you.

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In Jeremías 13-14.
He will confirm the good word that He has given to the house of Judah and the house of Israel.
And she said, Sister, what is this?
I said, confirmation.
And who did that?
The Spirit of God.
Because I was going to know that she had given that word.
But the Spirit who knows all things and discerns all things.
Hello.

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The Spirit of God.
And were there languages?
Did we speak in angelic languages?
No.
No.
No.
But God who knows the need of each one of us.
But she says, there has to be an interpretation, there has to be an interpreter,
so that we can be edified.
Certainly, the animated things that produce sounds like the flute or the citra,

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if they do not discern the distinction of voices,
how will we know what the flute or the citra plays?
And if the trumpet gives an uncertain sound, who will prepare for the battle?
So too, if you do not give a very understandable word through the tongue,
how will you understand what you say?
Because you will speak in the air.
There are so many kinds of language in the world, and none of them seems to have meaning.

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But if I ignore the value of words, says Paul,
I will be like a foreigner to the one who speaks.
And the one who speaks will be like a foreigner to me.
So too, you who speak in spiritual places, try to sink into them.
Paralyzing the Church, there is the key.
Paralyzing the Church.
I have done this exercise before, but I see the need to do it.
King, come, stop quickly, come here, little lady, come here quickly.

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Little jay, come here quickly, come, come, come.
Without fear, I am not afraid that time advances me.
We are in the air and time is clear in the air.
Put yourself here in front, the three of you together.
There together, looking over there, over there, over there.
King, I want you to sing your favorite song.
Little jay, you your favorite and little lady, you your favorite.
Sing it loud so that the brothers sing along with you.
One, two, three, now sing.
Where is the light of my life?

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Where is the light of my life?
What are you understanding?
Keep singing, keep singing.
It is here for us.
Sing, sing, little jay, little lady, sing.
It is here for us.
Thank you, guys, I think you understood.

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Thank you.
That happens, says Pablo, so that we understand, so that we are graphic.
That happens, says Pablo.
Who built it, who learned it, who understood something?
Nobody.
That happens.
Pablo says that when a new visitor comes in and sees this,

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he will not say, you are crazy.
And you are right.
Because who built it?
What there is is a mess.
And say that we did it in order here.
Because there are other places, not here, there are other places.
They throw themselves in the sea, scream, jump, jump off the chair.
They do all kinds of strange movements.

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Do you know what image comes to mind?
When I look at all of this, the prophets are remembered there from Varan.
When they screamed, screamed, says the Bible,
and they did all kinds of frenetic movements and frenetic screams.
That comes to mind.
That image comes to mind.

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How many times have we fallen into the same mistake?
Why? Because we do not know the movement of the Holy Spirit,
why there must be an order, why there must be an interpreter.
That is why the Bible gives us this advice.
That is why the Bible gives us this advice in 1 Corinthians 14.13.
For which it says, whoever speaks the foreign language,
ask in prayer to be able to interpret it.

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There is the key.
We have to ask for the gift of discernment, the gift of interpretation.
The gift of interpretation.
Because if I pray, it says in the language unknown,
my spirit prays, but my understanding is fruitless.
What can it say?
I will pray with the spirit, but I will pray with the understanding.
I will sing with the spirit, but I will also sing with the understanding.

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Because if you bless, it says,
only in the spirit, the one who occupies the place of the simple hearer,
how will Amen say your action of thanks?
Well, you do not know what you have said, what we have just seen.
How could the brothers say Amen, glory to God, to your song?
Because you, the truth, see, thank you.
But the other one who is by your side is seduced.
And Paul says, I thank you, he says,

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in verse 18 of 1 Corinthians 14,
I thank God, he says, that you speak more languages than all of you.
In other words, he is not speaking to anyone, he is speaking to an expert.
But in the church, I prefer to speak five languages with words,
with understanding, to teach others as well,
than ten thousand words with the language unknown.
But what do we see today?
People want to show off.

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People want to show off.
What are the ones who speak the most in languages?
What more manifestations are there?
Remember that it is not for your benefit, it is for the benefit of others.
And if it is for the benefit of others,
Paul says that you have to speak in a language that understands you.
That is why Paul says, I prefer to go to church
not speaking in a strange language that no one will understand.
I prefer to speak five words, but that everyone understands what I am saying.

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What I am saying.
Brothers, you are not children in the way of thinking,
if you are not children in malice,
but mature in the way of thinking.
In the law it is written, in other languages,
listen carefully, in other languages and other languages,
I will speak to this people and no one will hear me, says the Lord.
So the languages are, listen, by sign,

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not to the believers, but to the unbelievers.
Brothers, then how is this?
If it is not for us, if it is for us by sign,
of the manifestation of the Spirit that we die,
but then it is for those who do not believe, for the unbeliever,
if we do not understand it much less than the unbeliever,
be careful, be careful what the Bible says,
but to the unbelievers.

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If the whole church gathers in one place,
and everyone speaks in languages,
and an unbeliever enters, will you not say that you are crazy?
But if everyone prophesies and an unbeliever or an unbeliever enters,
for everyone is convinced and for everyone is judged,
the occultation of their heart is manifested,
thus posing on their faces, worshiping God,
declaring that truly God is among you.

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Very simple.
When the Spirit of God speaks to someone,
when we see that, for example, at the time of the manifestation,
on Monday I arrived for a glory of God,
I was practicing with the pastor of Houston,
and he said to me, pastor,
what you were talking about, what you were preaching,
ministering to what you were saying to people,
that was it.
I do not know anyone from what is in Houston,

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apart from the pastor and the families,
the leaders that you have, but from there,
but the Spirit that knows,
he said to me, there are things that,
well, to God is the glory.
And he said, that is why that person broke so much,
because the Lord touched him, it was the Spirit,
the Spirit of God.
One who knows, one who knows.
But it is the Spirit of God.

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That is why when the manifestation of the Spirit is there,
the church has to be built.
There is the importance of speaking the same language
that God speaks,
of knowing it,
how he moves, how he works.
The Holy Spirit is a gentleman.
When the Bible says that the most intimate
of his heart is going to be silenced,
it is not that God is going to see you in front of everyone

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and he is going to say,
your sin is this and that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
There you are alone, the Holy Spirit,
maybe if God indicates it, the Spirit guides the pastor
or whoever is preaching, he is going to come and speak
to the ear, the intimate with you,
but he is not going to be public. Why? Because he is a gentleman.
He is a gentleman, he does not embarrass anyone.
He is a gentleman.
There has to be an interpretation.

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There has to be an interpretation.
There has to be an interpretation.
What is there, brothers, when you get together?
Each of us has psalms,
chants,
has doctrine, teaching,
has language, has revelation,
has interpretation. Watch out!
Verse 26, do everything
for edification.
Do everything for edification, says Paul.

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For edification.
Brothers, if you are going to give a testimony,
give a testimony.
Give a testimony.
Sometimes I was invited to preach in a church,
it was a vigil.
They told me it was at 7, we arrived at 7.
It was 11 at night, they did not give me the time,
and I said, Lord, blessed.
Because one passed, he sang,
another passed, he testified,

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and the same one who had sung before, he stopped again and testified.
And then,
and so they were.
If you are going to testify, testify. If you are going to sing, sing.
If you are going to preach, preach. If you are going to teach, teach.
But you cannot be a theologian.
You want to sing,
to beat, to beat.
You want to do everything.
You sing, you preach, you teach.

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You cannot do everything.
And there are pastors, orchestras.
There are pastors who want to do everything.
And it is a lie.
We cannot. It is a lie.
We cannot.
And if everything has to be done
for edification,
if someone speaks a foreign language,
this is two,
or at most three,

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and one interpreter at a time,
there is order within the Church.
There is order. There has to be order
within the Church.
If one is speaking a foreign language,
and the first street is raised, says Paul.
And if the third, the second, and the first street are raised,
there has to be an interpreter.
I am telling you what the Bible says.
The instruction of the Bible does not give.
What the Bible does not say.

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And one interpreter.
If there is no interpreter, verse 28,
falls in the Church
and speaks for himself and for God.
The Bible is very clear, brothers.
The Bible is very clear.
If there is no interpreter, it says, fall, speak for yourself.
For yourself,
if there is no interpreter.
That is one of the two
that is most manipulated within the Church.

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One of the two,
sorry, that is most used
to manipulate members of the Church.
And we have to be very careful with this.
With manipulation.
With the famous, God told me,
with the famous, the Spirit of God reveals me.
Be careful with that.
Be careful.
Be careful.
There are many pastors who like to be alone

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in the house of the family,
knowing the intimate problems of the people,
and then come to spread
what is happening.
I made that mistake in the past.
I made it.
Why do you say yes? Why do you say no?
Because it is true, brother.
Where is the revelation?
Yes.
No, no, better on the knees,

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praying,
that God reveals the need
for God to speak, for God to manifest
to be the Spirit of God who speaks to us.
These days, the Spirit told me,
I said, Lord, why are you still
sick inside the Church?
And the Lord gave me a word and said,
for rebels, because they still do not want to bend,
because they still do not want to surrender to me,
because they still do not want to submit their character,

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their attitude, their behavior to me.
That is why they are still sick,
said the Lord. That is why there are many
sick people among you.
Because they do not want to.
They do not want to. They do not want to submit
to God.
Very independently of what happens, of what happens.
Many of you know
that there is worship on Fridays and they stay
at home.

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Why don't you seek the presence of God?
Why don't you seek the
return of the Holy Spirit?
Why don't you seek to be full of the Holy Spirit?
But no!
We do what we want,
as the Master of the Dominican School said.
Many people want to do what they want
inside the Church.
We do not let ourselves be guided by the Holy Spirit.
We do not let the Holy Spirit

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be an influence in our lives.
Let it manifest
for our edification.
Hello!
And what comes
next
fascinates me.
If you do not keep quiet,
say, I speak to God.
The prophets speak two or three times
and the others judge or listen.

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And if something is revealed to another
who is seated, the first one falls.
Because you can prophesy all of them,
but one by one, so that everyone
learns and is exhorted.
And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
God is not a God of confusion,
but of peace.
God is not a God of confusion,
God is not a God of disorder,
God is a God of order.

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Of course I believe in the manifestation of the Spirit.
Of course I believe that the Spirit moves.
Many people judge us, criticize us.
That we are a paid Church,
that we are a disordered Church,
that we are a Church.
But I wonder, who are the disordered?
Just because we do not have the speakers
at high volume, just because we do not jump, run,
and we walk like a shaman shouting
and the crazy ones jumping, that is why the Spirit of God is not in us?

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I cannot say that the Spirit of God is not in the Baptist brothers,
because they are very passive, very calm.
We, the Pentecost,
are the ones who have the fullness.
Many of that fullness is called
do you know what it is called?
Emotions.
Emotions.
Why do not you enjoy with the word of exhortation?
There is the big face of lemon.
Do not touch what you like the most.

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Amen, yes, glory.
They are throwing the other one. Amen.
Speak, preach pastor.
When they are throwing the other one.
But when it is falling on you.
What is the point of jumping,
jumping, if we speak in so many languages?
If we are not obedient to God.
If we do not submit to God.

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As Paul says, I prefer to speak
coherent words that everyone understands.
And that does not mean that the Spirit of God is not in us.
It does not die in us.
All these things, he says,
one does for the benefit of others.
Sharing to each one as he wants.
Pastor, I do not speak in languages.
But probably the Lord has given you the gift of science.

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The word of speaking with wisdom.
The word of knowledge.
Maybe you do not speak in languages,
you do not interpret them.
But God has given you the gift of health.
Maybe you do not speak in languages.
Maybe you do not have science.
Maybe you do not have knowledge.
But you have faith.
That is a gift also given by the Holy Spirit.
Precisely, we do not have to speak

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in all languages to say that the Spirit is not in us.
We cannot say that.
We cannot say that.
But there must be an order in the Church.
I believe in the manifestation of the Spirit.
Of course I do.
I believe in the gift of speaking with the Spirit.
I believe in the gift of the Spirit.
Of course I do.
I believe in the gift of speaking in languages.
Of course I do.

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I believe in the revelation in the prophecy.
Of course I do.
What I do not believe in are the false apostles
and the false prophets.
People who are saying, God told me, God told me.
When God has not said anything.
That is what I do not believe in.
But I do believe in the manifestation
and the power of the Holy Spirit
that has been given to us for the benefit,
for the edification of the Church.

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That is the truth.
Knowing the Holy Spirit.
In the book of Acts, as we were looking
and studying,
those were baptized.
And they came across Paul.
And Paul said,

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and you received the gift of the Holy Spirit.
And what did they say?
We have not even heard
that there is a Holy Spirit.
How?
They were baptized.
And they were not baptized
in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
In what were you baptized?

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In what have we been baptized?
People who do not know.
The movement of the Holy Spirit.
They do not know who the Holy Spirit is.
What is the function of the Holy Spirit?
It is the third person of the Trinity.
It is the Spirit of God.
It is the essence of God.
I love the definition that Jehovah's Witnesses give.
The Jehovah's Witnesses

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say that the Holy Spirit
is the force, the active power of God.
But that is how they leave it.
And that version fascinates me.
I add it to them.
And I adapt it to us.
I say that it is the force, the active power of God
living in the man and the woman
that have been regenerated, changed, saved
in the blood of Jesus Christ.
Give him a round of applause with all your heart.

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Because that is the power of the Holy Spirit.
I do not say it, the Bible says it.
Acts 1.8.
And you will receive power
when the Holy Spirit comes over you.
Paul says in Romans 1.16
that the Holy Spirit is the force, the power.
It is the dynamo, the dynamite
of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit.

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Here, a thunder.
There in a peaceful wind.
There in the Gospels in tongues.
In a rosy, it is manifested
in different ways.
Anna was in the sanctuary.
And the Bible says that she was babbling.
Over there, maybe one was screaming.
She was babbling.
Between her lips.
In the name of Jesus, Lord, help me.

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In such a way that
neither the priest understood what was happening.
He came and said, woman,
drink your wine, I had it because I was drunk.
To which she said,
Lord, my Lord, priest, I am not drunk.
I am pouring my soul before Jehovah
from the armies.
But why? Because the priest
did not know, he had lost
the vision of moving the Spirit of God.

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Many people today know.
They do not know when the Holy Spirit is.
When God is speaking.
When God is manifesting.
When the Spirit is moving
in the midst of us.
We do not have the capacity to discern.
Many times, the praise, the adoration,
as in this day, was so beautiful.
God manifests, God moves in the midst of the praise
of His people.

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But there are many people who cannot perceive it.
That is why the manifestation of Anna
is so beautiful.
When? When?
When?
And there one moved.
When are you going to receive like this?
If you come
from Sunday to Sunday,

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and the little you come, you come to lose time.
You do not come to worship.
You do not come to say, Holy Spirit, here I am,
I need you, I am hungry, I am thirsty for you.
I need to be you.
We do not say it.
Hello?
Hello?
Brother, I thought you were going to speak to us in language.
I am speaking to you in language.
A language that understands.

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Because what is the use of me
speaking to you in...
Jump into the bazooka, jump into the fence, run into the ravine.
If you do not understand anything.
It is preferable that we be redarguidos,
confronted by the power of God,
by the Spirit of our reality.
And I close this session.
Mary, if you help me again with that song, my dear.

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Of worship.
The title, the series we brought.
Knowing the Holy Spirit.
And now if God tells me.
Knowing the Holy Spirit.
And being
known by Him.
Being known by Him.
How much does the Holy Spirit know you?

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How much does the Holy Spirit know about you?
Vastores, the Spirit of God knows everything.
Yes, yes. I agree. From that point of view, yes.
But I mean.
Does the Holy Spirit know you?
Does the Holy Spirit know you?
Like a worshiping woman.

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Does the Holy Spirit know you?
You know the Holy Spirit like someone who has intimacy with Him?
Who you worship?
Who you talk to?
Who you let use because you know Him?
Does He know you that way?
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