March 10, 2025 • 50 mins
In this episode of Palm Harbor Local, host Donnie Hathaway sits down with Dr. Dyllon Mawn, owner of Mana Chiropractic, with locations in St. Pete and Dunedin. Dyllon shares his early introduction to chiropractic care, how it changed his family's health, and why he felt called to pursue it as a career.
We dive deep into:
✔️ Dyllon’s first adjustment at 15 and how it shaped his future.
✔️ The philosophy behind chiropractic care and its impact on overall wellness.
✔️ The difference between traditional and "principled" chiropractic approaches.
✔️ How Mana Chiropractic evolved into a thriving wellness practice.
✔️ The connection between mindset, movement, and long-term health.
If you’ve ever been curious about chiropractic care beyond just pain relief, this episode is for you!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Palm Harbor Local, where we bring you
inspiring stories from theheart of our community.
I'm your host, donnie Hathaway,and today we are joined by
Dylan Mon, who is the owner ofMonarch Chiropractic, with
locations in St Pete and Dunedin.
Now our show is all aboutcelebrating those who put in the
sweat, overcome the hurdles andstill find time to give back to
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the community.
If you want to be inspired byhow they got started, what keeps
them going and what they'redoing to make Palm Harbor even
more awesome, you're in theright place.
In today's episode, we'll talkwith Dylan about the story of
his first adjustment, why Dylanbelieved so strongly in
chiropractic care and howmonochiropractic became what it
is today.
Now be sure to follow us onInstagram at palmharborlocal for
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palmharborlocalcom.
Let's go meet Dylan.
Dylan, welcome to Palm HarborLocal.
Man Excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It is great to be on.
I'm excited to be here as well.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So it's been a.
I was just thinking about thisbefore, but we've been talking
about doing this podcast forquite some time, and just life
got in the way and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, Well, life hurricanes, children running a
business, expanding a business,just all the things Like.
I think I first caught wind ofPalm Harbor podcast when Dr
Caleb was on.
Yeah, and he was like dude, yougot to get out on this podcast,
you got to meet this guy andit's been like in my field since
then.
And here we are, maybe a yearlater, and like finally making
(01:28):
it happen.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, it's all right, man, it's a life happens and
yeah, I'm excited we're here.
So you're, you're achiropractor.
I want to start there and, likewe were just talking about,
from the chiropractors that I'vespoken with and I've had on the
podcast and stuff, they've allkind of came into chiropractics
like later on in their career orthey like in college, like
(01:52):
they're trying to figure outwhat they wanted to do, and then
met somebody who was inchiropractors and then, you know
, took off from there.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Your story is different, like you've, you've
known about chiropractic from anearly age and been involved
with it from an early age, right, so for me, um, I found
chiropractic when I was 15 yearsold, when, um, I wasn't looking
for it for myself, which ispart of the reason why we do
certain things in our practicethe way that we do.
(02:19):
Um, my, I grew up in a bluecollar family home.
My dad owns a landscaping lawmaintenance company, Um, and the
story essentially goes that mymom was tired of hearing him
complain about his back pain andsaid, like listen, there's this
chiropractor in town.
I hear good things about it.
I think this guy could reallyhelp you go schedule an
(02:40):
appointment.
Um, my dad goes and schedulesan appointment, lands in a
chiropractor's office that I nowunderstand to be what we call a
principled chiropractor in theindustry, and essentially all
that means is there is a varietyof a spectrum, uh, for how to
practice.
Chiropractic is why you canwalk into one office and
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experience one thing, walk intoanother office and experience
something totally different.
Um, that spectrum, um, we'llhave some chiropractors sort of
being what we call accidentchasers, where they're just kind
of chasing car accidents andpicking up the, uh, the pieces
that are there.
Um, you have some chiropractorsthat are more rehab focused,
where it's like, uh, followingaround athletes and um, people
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that are getting injuries thatway, or maybe older people and
kind of trying to rehab injurieswhen they inevitably happen.
And then you have somechiropractors that are focused
on more holistic health andhealing, and that's going to be
where you're called yourprincipled chiropractor, which
basically means we have aphilosophy on how health and
healing works and we practicechiropractic within that
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philosophy.
This chiropractor back in theday for my story happened to be
a principal chiropractor, and sowhat that meant was, even
though my dad came in lookingfor help with his back pain,
what he got was so much morethan that, and what he got was
education and understanding howhealth and healing works in his
body, and not only that for himbefore his whole family.
(04:04):
And so, uh, the doc, dr MattSimons, uh, the guy who got it
all started for me, um, heinvited our whole family to come
in and sort of learn thisprinciple of health and healing.
Okay, and I remember I was 15years old I'm sitting in the
back of the room while he'sgiving this class, of which we
are actually developing videosfor, um, but he's giving this
class and he's teaching you like, hey, your body's designed to
(04:26):
heal, your body's not designedto be sick, and then talking
about what does it mean when youare sick and how your body's
trying to respond and heal andprocess something I remember the
big aha for me was when hetalked about just the common
cold.
Right, the common cold, whenyour body sort of is fighting a
virus and so it creates a fever,it creates a runny nose, it
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creates a headache, body aches,all these symptoms of your body
responding to fight the virus,and in Western culture what we
take is we take medicines toreduce those symptoms and that
being this like symptom-basedcare, and so it just inspired me
.
I understood that there wassomething different for how to
facilitate health and healing.
(05:08):
My dad went on to have a prettymiraculous story with this
chiropractor.
Um, about a month into care,all of the pharmaceuticals that
he was on for his uh, diabetesactually was dropped by 50 or
75% by changing nothing else inhis lifestyle yet just getting
adjusted.
And that sort of got me reallycurious.
(05:28):
I started asking questions andlearning how, when the brain and
the body are connected to oneanother, the body can heal, and
then kind of took that down asfar as the rabbit hole would go.
I started interning with thischiropractor and volunteering
with him.
My now wife, then girlfriend,had migraines at the time.
So I was like listen, I knowthat this could help my
girlfriend.
Can I volunteer for you to likepay for her care?
(05:48):
You know, I was just.
I understood this concept and Ijust wanted to get it, the
message out to the world andeveryone that I could help.
And that was the beginning ofthe end for me.
You know I was 15, then I'mabout to turn 33 next week, and
so for over half my life I'vebeen growing in this principle,
that is, the chiropracticprinciple.
And how can I get better atdelivering this to more people,
(06:12):
so that more people can discoverthat their body heals naturally
and on the inside?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, Were you so at 15, like this is when you were
like curious about it andstarted interning and stuff with
with him.
Yeah, when does that curiositycome from?
Like, are you just curious bynature?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think I think so.
Um, I I found spirituality inlike fourth or fifth grade which
, being an adult and kind oflooking back to when I was, um,
starting to get really involvedwith the church, and kind of
have those like early memories.
You know you, you go back andyou're like involved with the
church and kind of have thoselike early memories.
You know you go back and you'relike was I?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I remember those thoughts and I can.
I remember the childhood, dylan, that was contemplating ideas
of God and truth and reality,and I think it always just kind
of evolved with me.
Like you know, you have a fifthgraders mind, but I just always
had questions.
I was always very curious aboutwhat's real, what's true, um,
what are we here for?
Um and from from a young age Ido think that was just always in
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my nature.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I worked with this chiropractor at an early age,
and then you went to schoolimmediately after, after you
graduated high school.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So after high school I went to undergrad.
I had a full ride for undergradwith a like prepaid stuff and
some scholarships, and so Ifigured I wasn't in a huge hurry
.
I wasn't going to go straightinto chiropractic school.
I wanted to have a more normalcollege experience.
And to my mom's notion she waslike, listen, you've wanted to
do this since you were 15, butwho knows, maybe you'll change
(07:37):
your mind Like let's keep thefield open, right?
So I went to UCF for undergrad.
Never changed my major once.
I was like, just on a one trackshot of get out of my way, get
me my degree.
I want to be a chiropractor.
I'm going to do this thing.
I'm going to help people healthis way for the rest of my life
.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, and did you so?
Going to chiropractic school,did you learn like the different
, like you're talking aboutbefore, like the different
modalities of way to practicechiropractic?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So chiropractic school is it's going to.
It gave me the baselineknowledge.
So the chiropractic school alot of school is actually very
similar to all doctor school,meaning whether you become an MD
, a DO, a DC, these are allportal of entry doctors and so
we need to be able to like catchanything that would come in
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that might be a red flag orsomething super serious.
Chiropractic school does areally good job at preparing you
to catch those things.
It does a good job at makingsure that you're not going to
hurt anyone.
It does a good job at makingsure that you'll be a mediocre
chiropractor.
School is not set up to makeyou great and, coming from a
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great chiropractor, I figuredthis out rather quickly.
I looked around and I saw bothmy peers and colleagues and even
like the teachers that wereteaching it, it was like fairly
lackluster.
I was lucky that the schoolthat I went to has the most
clubs and seminars that wouldcome through out of any other
school.
(09:08):
And so I got very involved withextracurricular clubs, finding
teachers that would travelthrough different seminar
circuits, and it got to a placewhere, just a couple months into
school, I was traveling moreweekends than I was staying
local.
I ended up doing 60 chiropracticseminars while I was in school
and I started to figure out forme that it was like, okay,
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school is going to get me thedegree, school is going to get
me to pass the boards and it'sgoing to get me to like check
the boxes, but if I really wantto do this in a big way, the way
that I've seen otherchiropractors doing this, it's
going to take me getting outsideof school and learning from
people that are doing it the waythat I want to do it.
Um, when I unlocked that,that's when everything changed
(09:52):
for me.
Um, and so chiropractic schoolended up being this four year
process for me that I juststarted to change um and really
started to dive deeper into whoI was.
I really found myself.
It's like it was this processof you know my whole life I'm
visualizing towards wanting tobecome a chiropractor and I'm at
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the very end of this thingbefore I'm finally about to be a
chiropractor, and I can neverundo that.
So, what I realized was schoolwas this like initiation process
?
I discovered breath work.
I discovered the art offacilitating hands-on healing,
which is it's a wild phenomenon.
It's it's wild to be able toplace your hands on someone and
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to feel what they're feeling.
Um, I remember, I remember theme before I knew that that was
possible and learning that it'spossible to lay your hands on
someone and to know what they'refeeling.
And like going through differenttrainings and experiences of
having people lay down and pickan emotion and feel that emotion
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and without me knowing whatemotion they're feeling, feeling
what emotion they're feeling,feeling what emotion they're
feeling, it starts to really.
For me, it started to reallychallenge a lot of my previous
conceived beliefs of what wasreal and what wasn't real.
Yeah, and then I started toquestion every single belief
(11:21):
that I had ever had, especiallyif it was a belief that was
maybe given to me, right, Um,that maybe I learned um in
religion, or maybe learned in abook, or maybe learned in a
podcast, like anything that Iknew that I hadn't found on my
own.
I was like, okay, let's unpackthat a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Let's dive deeper.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And in diving deeper, I just um, uh, I found.
I found who I was inchiropractic school.
I left chiropractic school verydifferent than I entered Um.
I left being someone that umwas just like all the way in the
deep end of you know.
Even the human experience righthere is like rather weird.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Um and so kind of took everything off the table of
what's normal and what's notnormal, and I think that put me
in a good place to being able tobe a provider for people,
because everyone's coming inwith their own unique story and
when you're more open tolistening to that, I find that
that's when people start toprocess and hear and feel
exactly what they need to, whichallows them to change
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specifically to them.
There's no single person thathas gone through the exact same
healing experience.
In my practice, everything isunique and that just comes from
recognizing that we're allhaving a unique experience.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.
So a couple of things I want todive into there.
One is school.
Do you think school should domore to set you up to be a
better, to be a greatchiropractor?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes and no I'm.
I'm of the notion of liketaking radical responsibility,
and so the no in me is just likeeveryone can just figure it out
.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You know, I had the exact same resources that
everyone else had and I was ableto do what I did with it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
The way that I did, um, the yes part is, you know,
yeah, there's a lot more that'sbeing left on the table.
It's it's a watered downversion, um, but when you create
something that is that largeand designed to be reproducible
across the board, how much canyou get out of it?
Yeah, true.
You know it's, chiropractic is aphilosophy, a science and an
(13:27):
art, and so I think that schoolshould do a very good job at um
making sure that everyone knowsthe philosophy, everyone knows
the science and everyone has anopportunity to explore the art.
Yeah, Um because differentchiropractors are going to
practice differently anddifferent arts just have to be
fostered from within true?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
yeah, that makes sense.
It makes sense.
I feel like I was thinking backto, like you know, real estate
school, although it's like muchdifferent than chiropractic
school, but same thing like wealways joke about, like you
don't learn anything you learnin real estate school, like it's
not usable in in what you'redoing and a lot of it's not yeah
, I find that that's mostprofessional schools.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
The schooling is just a little bit behind it and so
it's like, yeah, well, we'd liketo do it for sure and there's
other ways to get through it.
I think that the gauntlet ofschool, of just like proving
that you can go through thislong, committed process and not
give up and have the multipleexams and finals it's like we've
gone through things toexperience, you know, different
(14:27):
heartache that just kind ofcauses you to level up in
different ways in your own justhuman development.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And maybe it's just like the school is just like the
foundation of whatever you'reyou're going for, right, and
then you explore whatever youwant to do after that.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I like that.
So so talk to me about like the.
When I first met dr caleb andand you know he was kind of
explaining like what you guys doand how you guys practice and
everything but like the, the artof, uh, like feeling someone,
like when they're on the tableand stuff, and knowing what
needs to be adjusted, like howdoes that?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
so a lot of this comes with, uh, training the
intuitive mind.
You have your um, you have yourintellect and then you have
your intuition.
These are both two differentparts of your mind.
Everyone's experienced both.
You've experienced when youknow something because you've
learned something and oh, I knowthat information Um, we spend a
lot of our life building up ourintellect.
We've also all experienced justhaving that gut feeling and
(15:24):
that gut knowing.
You've had plenty of times thatit's been right right.
What I've learned is, as youbuild up the intellect, you have
capacity for the intuition,right, and so school does a
really good job at giving youall of the stuff you need to
build up your intellect.
School taught me what musclesconnect to what muscles, what
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parts of the body is controlledby other parts of the stuff you
need to build up your intellect.
School taught me what musclesconnect to what muscles, what
parts of the body is controlledby other parts of the body.
Like, school gave me the wholeroadmap, right, if you will.
Yeah, the intuition comes in inlearning how to simply take
what you know and just listenand be present with it, right,
and so the more that I know thebody, the easier it is for me to
(16:06):
come up and not look foranything but to allow the body
to talk to me, right.
In the same way, you told meearlier that you've been doing
these podcasts for five years,right, you know when a
conversation is just starting toget good you know when it's
like, okay, I've got thisframework that I'm going to be
building off of, but then wemight go totally off the
framework and just kind offollow this organic thing.
You can start to feel when itjust starts to happen, there's a
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good conversation happening.
That same thing happens with meand my people every time that
they're on the table, but withmy hands, in the same way that
you can give someone a hug thatyou know well and you can tell
if that person's having a goodday or a bad day, if they're on
or off.
No one had to teach you that,you could just feel it.
We've trained our hands tostart to get there Right, and so
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the way that we do that in ourpractice is everything is
connection based.
So at no point in time are wejust trying to take you through
a process or just trying to havea means to an end.
Every time it's about how can Iconnect with you and how can I
get you to connect better to thepresent moment.
Now, the beauty of the personthat is trying to connect you to
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that present moment is thatperson is someone who
understands more about your bodythan you even understand
yourself, and so, in the pathwayof bringing you to you and
bringing you from being out hereto being in here and present
and connected with yourself.
That pathway inward, there'sgoing to be lessons along the
way.
Those lessons along the way,some of them can be learned in
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an instant, in a moment whenthat adjusting force comes
through and you feel your bodymove differently and all of a
sudden it's like, oh wow, Ididn't know my body could move
that way and maybe maybe,cognitively and intellectually,
you feel something different.
That is now teaching yourneurology how to move in that
pattern.
Then you couple that in withthe education on being told like
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you're holding your body in allthese different ways.
Now you're also learning toshift things outside of it.
It becomes a journey where thechiropractor is just your guide
to bring you into more harmonywith yourself.
And how we do that at Mana is bydiscovering where is there a
disconnect between you and thefunctional you.
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Why the functional you?
Because the machine that is thebody has correct ways of
working and incorrect ways ofworking.
When the incorrect ways ofworking are happening for too
long, it leads to pain.
The pain leads to you coming into find me.
I help you to understand thatpain is from these dysfunctional
movement patterns.
When you get them moving right,you start to feel better, but
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you're also more connected toyourself.
So it's just like two-partjourney, where it's like you're
trying to get out of pain, I'mtrying to bring you back
oscillation with your body, theyou in your head, the you and
your heart, connecting with theyou and your body.
And when all of that's movingin frequency and harmony, now we
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have true opportunity forhealing, where you feel a heck
of a lot better and you'rethinking better, you're moving
better, you're making betterdecisions.
It's really really, reallyfascinating to see how people
change when you get everythingvibing at the same frequency.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, does that take?
Like, how long does that?
Typically is there, like youknow it takes, you know, a
couple of weeks or so it'sdifferent from person to person.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Um, there, it's very much so a process.
What I will see is the peoplethat want it more, we'll get
into it more.
The people that are resistanceof it more will have a uh, it'll
take more time, typicallywithin a month or so.
That's when people are reallystarting to have big changes.
Um, you're feeling a lot betterin two to three weeks.
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You're feeling a lot differentin three to four weeks.
And when people start to havethose changes, that's when we
start to have them through themomentum phase, where now it's
easy to just add things on top.
When was your first adjustment14, 15 years old.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, yeah, so right when your dad was going yeah,
crazy, and you've been did youstick with being adjusted
regularly at that age?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I've essentially been getting
adjusted since I was 14, 15.
Um, right, whenever the familykind of found it, and um, I'd
say, the longest I've gonewithout an adjustment is
probably less than a month, um,since then.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And you, how often do you write Like if you're, if
you're on schedule, how often doyou get?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
if I'm on schedule, I get adjusted once a week.
Once a week, yep, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's what I've been doing.
Now is once a week, but yeah, Iwould say like I noticed the
changes.
It'd probably be like a monthin, right, it was probably, you
know, three, four weeks in islike when I started to notice,
like just feeling better, nothaving like the because I came
in because of my neck was tenseand whatever sure um so like
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just feeling more relaxed andmore comfortable, good like
three, four weeks in good for mewhat I do.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I use it a bit more now for learning about myself,
um, knowing that every singleadjustment is changing my brain,
that every adjustment iscreating more neuroplastic
change, which is the ability forthe brain to change over time.
I like to lay on the table andjust start by breathing and
noticing where is breath maybemoving differently from one side
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of my body to another?
Where do things feel stuck?
I like to play a little game ofalmost like feeling.
Where do I notice things feelstuck?
I like to play a little game ofalmost like feeling.
Where do I notice things feel,um, not at ease in my body?
And then, where does the docfeel it?
Um, I like to kind of feel thatconnection between the two.
And and then just like learning, you know learning.
What do they feel in my system?
How can I feel things open updifferently?
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Um, the more present that I amwith my adjustment, the deeper
the adjustment always goes.
It's just like a little momentto shut everything else off and
to just be fully present withmyself.
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So when you're laying on thetable I've thought about this
often before of like you know ifyou come in and knowing like I
have a spot that's beenbothering me for the last week,
(23:51):
whatever, are you telling thedoctor that?
Or do you want to see if theyfind it, or see what else they
find?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So that's actually a great question.
Instead of telling them orinstead of seeing if they find
it, I am actually asking myselfthe question what are they going
to discover about this?
This is a good one for us toget into.
I'm feeling something.
This is a good one for us toget into.
I'm feeling something.
What I understand about thebody is I know that I could be
feeling something in that area,but that might not be the area
(24:18):
where it needs an adjustedthrust, and so I'm going to take
this into my hands of like okay, I know that I feel that there,
but I know it's also connectedto other things.
What are they going to feel sothat I can learn about how I can
change up my movement patternsoutside of here?
Right, so I'll intentionallynot tell them where I'm feeling
it, but I'm also intentionallynot seeing.
(24:40):
Will they find it?
Rather, I'm seeing they'regoing to find it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
What are they going to be able to tell me about what
I'm feeling, so that I canchange the way that I'm moving
between sessions?
Um, and every time, what'sfunny is, even if, like the
joint, that I wanted them to pop, because that was where I felt
that if I didn't feel it rightthere, if it didn't get popped
right there, if I'm just quiet,give it 10 to 15 minutes.
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A few minutes later, my body'slike that's exactly what you
needed.
And it kind of dials everythingin.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, because I've done thatwith, with caleb too, where it's
like I I'll let him, kind of,like you know, do his his, his
thing or whatever, and and Iwould, I would agree like same
thing, like, even if it's notlike oh, that was like you
adjusted that spot, or whatever,or like my shoulder or
something like that.
Um, it usually like later thatday or the next day, like it's,
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it's gone.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It all.
It's all interconnected.
It's just these high pointswhere you feel like the tension
point but it's, allinterconnected, and as long as
that gets unwound then it'sgoing to be better.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
What do you love about chiropractic?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Ooh, the thing that I love the most about it is how
it can help people to experiencemore of themselves.
Um, I thought that I lovedchiropractic just as being
another holistic healingmodality.
What I love the most aboutchiropractic is watching people
feel themselves.
Um, that's the biggestfascination that I find in it.
(26:06):
When I see people take thatdeep breath, um, have that
release, feel that like that,that that elated feeling of like
, oh, that was it, and now I canjust breathe and be there,
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I like that.
I like that.
So you guys recently changed toto Monica chiropractic.
How long have you um been?
Uh, did you?
Did you start your businesslike right out of school, or did
you practice elsewhere?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So when I graduated school I moved out to Oakland,
california, to join a couple offriends of mine in their
practice.
I was an associate.
The practice was called theSource Chiropractic and at the
time there was two locations,one in Oakland and one in Denver
.
The vision was always to build,like a franchise or a practice
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management group, something tokind of take these systems out
to the masses.
And while I was an associateout at the Source in Oakland, we
had COVID hit and so thatradically changed everything.
We kind of like rebuilt thebusiness structure and really
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just dialed it all in Before Iwas ready to leave.
We wanted to take it and turnit into a franchise.
The guys that were aboutstarting that was Dr Brett, dr
Darren and Dr Jordan.
They asked me if I wanted to doit with them.
They asked me if I want to bethe fourth franchisor and help
them to.
You know, take this brandnationwide.
(27:37):
Um, in my time working with themout in Oakland, um, I had
always planned to go off and domy own thing.
Um, but I really loved thething that we were creating.
We had a lot of fun doing it.
Um, I felt really inspired bythe brand and the mission, and
so I said you know what thisfeels, right, let's, let's go
ahead and do this.
Um, I decided to join them inthat mission.
Um, and man, the truth is juststarting a franchise is it's
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hard?
Um, starting like a big business, like that's really tough.
Um, and I just started torealize, as we were launching
the business out here, first westarted with the source in St
Pete and, man, we crushed thesmall business, local stuff, so
well that a year later wealready launched the source in
Dunedin and I had just reallyfallen in love with being a
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small business owner.
Um, I put so much energy andpassion and grit into all the
things that we could do in ourlocal communities that I was
losing momentum and energy for,like the bigger picture of it
all.
Um, there was a number ofthings that I wanted to do to to
continue changing the business.
The problem is is, when you'relaunching a franchise, that much
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change, that quickly, kind ofit doesn't give it enough
stability.
And so I realized that thefranchise mission was just not
in alignment for me, that I wasmuch more inspired to stay local
and to kind of focus everythinghere, that there was too many
things that I wanted to changetoo quickly and that I was not
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just an artist, as achiropractor, but also as a
business owner.
And I needed like to justexpress some artistic expression
and the ability to change somethings, and so talked to the
whole team, felt where they wereat with it.
Everyone felt really good withwanting to branch off and create
our own thing.
And so we've rebuilt ourinitial exam process.
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We are rebuilding our long-termcare process.
We're bringing in some newtechnology that's measuring the
nervous system differently.
Um, we built, uh, somedifferent long-term offerings
for our wellness clients, justkind of like wanting to change a
number of things, and in all ofthe changing, it's like this
just isn't the source anymore.
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Um this is something that'sturned into something new, and
we decided to name that MonoChiropractic.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
Did you ever want to be abusiness owner?
Was that always part of theplan?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Being a business owner was always part of it.
I grew up in uh in a smallbusiness family.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And so I've never seen mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
They both ran the business together.
So I've never seen like asteady paycheck.
I've never seen um just likeclocking in and clocking out is
dinner talks.
Uh uh, business talks at thedinner table every night.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, what do you like about?
About being a business owner?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Uh, the freedom, you know.
Um the freedom to, to have justradical expression, um staying
fully authentic with who I am,what I'm doing, um only really
myself and my clients to answerto.
When I say freedom, I don'tmean the freedom to work less
either.
Um, I think that's the biggestmisconception for business
people.
Like I want to get new businessownership so I don't have to
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work this 40 hours.
You know, nine to five, yeah,like I want to get new business
ownership so I don't have towork this 40 hours, you know 9
to 5.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I work more.
I'm working on the thing that Iwant to all the time, right,
and I still have the freedom tocreate exactly what it is that I
want to create.
I like betting on myself.
I've got a high risk tolerance.
I'd rather bet it all on me andwe'll see where we land.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'd rather bet it all on me and we'll see where we
land.
Yeah, and maybe that falls backto like your you mentioned like
early on, like being able tolike discovering yourself like
the end of chiropractic schoolright, like having confidence in
, like who you are, where you'regoing, what you want to do.
You're just like, I'll make ithappen.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think if your vision's clear, you can
accomplish anything.
That's one of the things thatwe do as a team.
Every single year.
we do our vision quest at thebeginning of the year where we
go out of town we just had itthis last weekend we go out of
town and we spend the entireweek and focusing on three
things.
First piece is just connectionwith each other and connection
with ourselves.
The second piece is visualizinglike where do we want to
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actually take this business?
And so that's by looking at ournumbers from the year prior and
then projecting into where arewe going in this next year, as
well as what are the things thatwe did this last year that
worked really well and what arethe things we want to implement
going into this next year.
And then the last thing that wedo is we work on just personal
growth, and so two years ago wedid human design.
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Last year we did a strengthsanalysis test.
This year, uh, we had just done, uh, the enneagrams.
But it's always something tounpack something deeper in, like
our psyche or our strengths andlike how we operate in the
world, because when the team isthat dialed in, it just sets us
up for success every year, so ifthe vision's clear you're,
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you're on track.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, did you?
What did?
What have you, um like, thinkback to your childhood.
What is one thing that youthink you learned from your
parents, like in those dinnertalks, or just them being
business owners?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'd say the biggest thing I take away from being
raised in my parents' home andthe way that they run a business
is how they always like puttheir team first.
My parents owned a landscapingand law maintenance company, but
every single year there wasstill a Christmas dinner.
Right, and even employees thatwere maybe newer on the team
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that you're not supposed to havea Christmas bonus until you've
been on the team for six months.
My mom would still always givea Christmas bonus, even if they
had only been there for a monthor two.
she would just prorate it Right,um, but in that industry there
really isn't even a Christmasdinner you know, Um like my
parents don't even speak fullSpanish, but they would still
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bring the whole team outinviting their families, always
with like plus one, plus two,like bring the whole crew.
I remember being at Christmasdinner parties of like 50 people
, of which 10 of them speakEnglish and everyone else only
speaks Spanish.
It's just this big party andwatching everyone feel really
happy and connected with likethat always really just stuck
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out to me as like, okay, that'ssomething that a boss could do,
that's different.
Um, that just makes people feelappreciated.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, and I think you get, um, you get buy-in from
your, from your team members,right, they want to be there and
, and and are excited to bethere and excited to, to you
know, live out that mission thatyou have.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
It's gotta be about about more than just a job.
If it's just a job, at the endof the day it's always just
going to get flat, it's going toget stale.
Um, but if you're buildingsomething where this is year
after year, it's valuable forthe team members to be on the
team.
Then, year after year, that'sgoing to also have a trickle
down effect that it's valuablefor your clients to still be
involved If the team's growingthen the whole thing grows.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
If the team starts to get stagnant, everything else
also gets stagnant.
I think more business ownersneed to understand like that
aspect of it right, because theythey get so focused on just
trying to make a dollar andtrying to make the business grow
, whatever they forget aboutwho's making the business grow.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Right, you know everyone can feel that too.
Yeah, I talked to so many otherum, even just chiropractors or
other team members where it'slike I can, I feel like
everything that my boss wants todo is just about the bottom
line.
Um, and if that's what italways feels like, you start to
build a team of people that feellike they're just working for
you, just working on like youhelping you get your nut.
(35:04):
Um, if, if it ever turns intothat, like I'll be out of
business.
That's not what.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I'm here for.
It's just too empty of a lifefor me.
Yeah, so bringing on staff orbringing on other chiropractors,
how has that process been foryou, like any tips, anything
that's worked for you to findthose right people that fit.
I think that's the hardest part, right, like finding people
that fit.
Think that's the hardest part,right, like finding people, um,
that fit.
You know you're gonna hireculture.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
You know it's.
It's like hiring culture is abig thing for me.
Um, let me see so you focus on.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So it's culture, like that's your number one, like
they've got to fit the culture,yeah, then they've got to have
the skill set or the knowledgeor whatever like they've got to
have the basic skill set Um, um.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So for docs, you have to have the skills, you have to
have the culture, you have tohave the principle.
Um docs like I have a very,very narrow, um uh, a narrow
pool of which I'm hiring from.
There's very few docs that I'llhire to join our team.
Um, for CAs, that's been moreof a learning process because
you're finding, like, who fitsthis other aspect of your team.
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I am a chiropractor and so Iknow what my chiropractic team
is gaining or lacking right.
But in my CAs I've actuallyfound that hiring also from
within the client base has beenwhere I've found some of my best
CAs.
Oh, really yeah where I'm foundsome of my best CAs.
Oh really, yeah.
Um, so my best CAs are CAs thathave been clients first, have
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experienced this work, have, uh,this sort of like just heart
for it, heart for it in, like, away of like really enjoying it,
desiring it, seeing how helpfulthis can be to other people.
It's like if I can hire theheart, I can teach the mind.
Um, if I can hire the passion,I can teach the skills.
Um, but I can't teach passion,I can't teach alignment.
Um, we, we, our team, like, welive our life a certain way.
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Like no one on my team has hadan antibiotic in years, if not
decades, um, there's not apharmaceutical anywhere in my
house, right.
And while I can't like legallyhire someone and say, hey,
listen, right.
And while I can't like legallyhire someone and say, hey,
listen, you need to be all in onthis team, it's, it's not that,
but it's like there's thisunspoken of we're all on this
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same team, living life with thesame values, and as long as
there's that, we have a lot ofalignment.
And if we have this alignment,then I can teach the skills that
need to be fostered.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, I think I was talking to Caleb about the
pharmaceuticals or someone.
But, um, I had been to a CVS orsomething recently and, uh, to
pick up some, some antibioticsfor our daughter when she was
going through some stuff, and um, like in that moment, I walked
into the CVS and you know you goto the pharmacy in the back or
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whatever and the amount ofprescriptions that were filled
and like ready to be, you know,picked up in that one CVS was
like insane.
And I'm looking at this I'm likeit is wild, it's a lot, man,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's a lot.
I uh, I can't remember the lasttime that I took anything as
much as even something over thecounter.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And that's the piece of like, just stacking
compounding wellness.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're all very familiar with what what it looks
like to have compoundingillness and sickness that's been
stacked on we.
We see these people walkingaround, but what you can also
know is like you can stackcompounding wellness as well,
and so when I get sick which ithappens, I can, just I can pile
through you know, I'm okay.
I can be uncomfortable for a fewhours.
(38:36):
I can be uncomfortable for acouple of days.
Um, I've had a headache before.
Um, I can have a headache and Ican ride the wave and just
experience it.
But what's nice is I don't thinkactually I can confidently say
that I've never been sick enoughthat I've gotten worried, and
I'm realizing that not a lot ofpeople feel that way, that
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plenty of people like you startto get sick and like there's a,
there's a point in time when,like, people get a little
worried.
If you've ever been sick enoughthat you've gone to the ER,
you've been sick enough that,like you, got worried.
And if you're living a lifesuch that you've ended up in a
place where this sickness hasmade you worried to the point of
I might need to go to the ER orthe urgent care or something,
(39:17):
cause I just don't know, you'veleft a lot on the table for a
long time.
That's just the blunt realityof it.
Um, that you've been livingunhealthy for a long time,
that's now.
This is possible, yeah, um, butif you're living healthy for a
long time, that's way lesslikely.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Way less likely.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So what are you doing to, besides getting your
adjustments and stuff weekly,what else are you doing to, like
, take care of you?
That's like your, you know topthree, top five things like
health habits.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Totally Um.
For me, the number one thing isyour thoughts, your thoughts
and your mindset.
Everyone wants to go with allthe different things you can
like, add in on top of that, butthoughts and mindset.
If you're eating well, movingwell, but you still think
terrible thoughts about yourselfor about your life and you're
waiting for the shoe to drop,you'll still just constantly
keep manifesting that, and soI'm a delusional optimist.
(40:06):
Milton flooded our house.
I haven't been in my house forhowever many months that's been.
Um but I'm a delusional optimistand like life genuinely is good
.
Uh, when my clients ask me howare things going, the knee jerk
reaction is thanks for feelinggood.
I'm good, um.
Next thing is I stay movingRight, um, and it's just an
active lifestyle.
(40:27):
Uh, I'm not.
I'm not Caleb, and so Caleb'sin the gym nine days a week.
He's in the gym nine days aweek, and that was not a typo
there.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
He's in the gym nine days a week.
That's not quite me.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
But I stay active.
In no way would anyone describemy lifestyle as sedentary.
I'm moving every day quite abit.
I've got push days, I've gotrest days, but I'm moving every
day quite a bit.
I've got push days, I've gotrest days, but I'm moving every
single day.
And then eating real foods.
Right, I stay away from theseed oils, I definitely stay
away from anything processed,and in the middle of the grocery
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store I still like some icecream here and there.
I'm still living life.
I'm a bit more well rounded, ifyou will, but my meals are
based on living food.
Living food.
Drink water, eat living food,move your body, get adjusted,
have positive thoughts.
It's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
What are you so your positive thoughts or mindset,
like what are you doing tocontrol that?
Like, keep that in check?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
staying curious, and I believe there might even be a
soundbite between you and DrEvan, because he's another one
that's big on curiosity.
But saying curious, I am not adelusional optimist in the sense
of just lying to myself, butdelusionally optimistic about
the fact that there is some way,shape or form, that this is
happening for me and I'm gonnafigure out how I'm gonna pull
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the goodness out of this.
I'm going to live through, howI'm going to pull the goodness
out of this.
I'm going to live through thisexperience, and with gratitude,
and if I can accomplish that,then there's going to be
something good in this for me.
So that's that's where it'sjust like staying curious and
trying to understand.
Um, how can I experience moreout of whatever the situation?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
is Love.
That Do you.
Is that mindset always beenthere for you?
Or is that something youlearned like in school, or I
think for me it actually startedwith religion.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Um, I grew up in like , uh, a pretty religious
Christian home.
Um, uh, story continues to goback to pops, and so dad was, um
, dad was an alcoholic foundrecovery Um, recovery and
chiropractic just a few yearsapart from one another.
But he found recovery and a lotof that was with the church.
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And so at a young age I wasjust watching things happen in
my family's life and no one hadto convince me if God was real
or not.
I watched my parents go fromdysfunctional and problematic to
functional and loving eachother and like steering our
family in the right direction.
And the addition, there wasthis God character and this book
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that we're now reading andstudying, and these good people
that are coming into our lives,kind of like making my parents
better, making me better.
I'm like, okay, this God thingseems to fit Um and in, in going
into that and just kind of likelearning about that.
That's where the, the discoveryfor truth, just kind of started
.
So I was always curious.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a big thing.
Like people just need to becurious at all times, right, I
think that can lead to so muchgrowth and discovery.
Um, if you're just curious,yeah, yeah, I love it.
Okay, so your, I've only beento actually I took that back.
I've been to one of thechiropractic clinic before, but
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the way you guys operate andyour your open concept, right,
where everyone is gettingadjusted in the same room yes,
is that, is that normal for,like, your style of chiropractic
, or is that just something thatyou guys have done?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
It's something that we've developed.
It's I don't know if it's so.
Our style of chiropractic justisn't normal.
Yeah, like that's definitelyone qualifying piece.
I couldn't find you a doc inevery major city in the US.
The practice is like that, likepracticing like that.
Okay, so like just qualifyingthat.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
You, I couldn't find you a doc in every major city in
the U S and like kind of likepracticing like that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Okay, so like just qualifying that, um, many that
are blending the more structuralwork with the energetic work.
Um, I will see more in an openbay style and the reason for
that is it just like gives theperson some more time to process
.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Right.
Um, if you're going in for anadjustment and the adjustment
sole purpose is to just movejoints, I can do that really
efficiently in a private room.
Come in the room, just boom,boom, boom, boom, awesome, see
you.
Floor gives me the ability tonot serve you on a specific
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schedule but serve you withinthe boundary of a schedule.
So you might come in one dayand you need some more time to
lay on the table and process.
Maybe you just need to breathefor a few minutes.
Maybe I need to lay you on theblocks that we use and help
gravity to unwind your pelvisfor a bit longer.
Maybe you're coming in and likelife's just been a little bit
heavy and today's an adjustmentthat like moves some emotion for
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you Rather than ushering youalong and like being like, okay,
I've only got this amount oftime, like we've got to get
through this.
I can let you lay there andprocess.
I can let you listen to themusic, I can use some of my
sprays and my smudges.
Just let you be in the healingenvironment.
(45:34):
And that's the other piece.
Healing has always happened inan environment, right For
millennia, when we were livingas human beings of community,
the way that healing wouldhappen in tribal space, would be
more ritualistic, and so therewas healing rituals and
ceremonies.
That was developed amongsthuman beings.
It would always happen in aceremony type setting, and so we
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like to create more of thatenvironment where it's like hey,
listen, we're all humans, we'reall on this journey together,
and with that, the piece is veryoften someone's laying on the
table and they hear somethingfrom a doctor, two tables down,
that they just needed to hearthat day.
That was like the perfect thingfor them, and that's where
everything's happening all atonce, the exactly the way it
needs to be.
(46:17):
So that's the reason why we doit, yeah I like it well.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I mean, one of the things I like about it is like
there's been times when I youknow, I think for I think the
best adjustments that I've hadare when I'm totally relaxed and
open to the adjustment that dayor whatever and I notice
sometimes I'll come in there andI'll be a little tense and
anxious or whatever, just forthe day or the busyness of the
schedule or whatever it is.
(46:41):
But going in there and beingable to lay on the table and
just calm my breath down, take afew deep breaths and just kind
of like, get into that, intothat zone, um gives you that
opportunity to do that.
I agree, yeah, I love it.
I love it.
So what is last question here?
What is one thing that you wantpeople to know about
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chiropractic?
What?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
is one thing that I want people to know about
chiropractic, that I want peopleto know about chiropractic.
The one thing I want people toknow about chiropractic is that
it is about the nervous system.
If people knew what I knewabout chiropractic, it would be
the number one thing that anyonethat values wellness would be
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building their wellnessfoundation from, and that is
that it is for the nervoussystem.
We are less interested inworking on even the body.
We are more interested onbasically being the functional
trainers of your nervous system.
Every single time that you getadjusted, you are changing brain
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activity.
Different parts of your spinestimulate different parts of the
brain to change.
When you get the brain tochange, you get to unlock
everything.
Why do you get to unlockeverything?
Because everything that youexperience in life you're
experiencing through your fivesenses, through your nervous
system.
When your nervous system isstuck in a state of arousal
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which is where most people areat, it's typically a state of
heightened arousal from the bluelight on our phones, from the
go go go society that we're in,from the poisons in our food,
from the anxiety of constantlytrying to catch that thing where
I can constantly take.
Like, get to that place where Ican take a breath, like that's
just our society, we're allwe're.
(48:31):
We're very oftenly stuck,ramped up and when you can tune
the nervous system to slow thatdown and have a clear perception
to reality, your entire lifecan change.
Um, I get to watch it with mypractice members that recognize
it's not about just a singleadjustment, but it's about this
compounding wellness and it'sjust about continuing to work on
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my nervous system.
The adjustment shifts, thenervous system changes.
The nervous system allows forthe body to be a clear filter of
life, not a body that is stuckin hyper arousal.
That just makes everything alot worse and a lot more
stressful.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I love that and I love the idea of like
compounding wellness too.
I've never like heard thatbefore or thought about it in
that way, you know, but it'slike it's just small wins and
everything that you do, likeyour mindset, the adjustments,
like moving your body, the foodthat you ingest, like you know,
you're just compounding wellness, the more things that you can
be compounding wellness in inlife.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Your life just starts to become really healthy.
Yeah, as Healthy is a pattern,just like sickness is a pattern.
Anytime that you've fallen intosickness, like most of the time
when we do come down withsomething, we can also
acknowledge it.
It's like I haven't beensleeping as much.
I've been pushing it a littleharder.
I wasn't eating all that great.
I went out drinking lastweekend and, like most of the
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time, it's like yeah, I knewthere was some shit going around
and I can also acknowledge thatI've been off my game a little
bit and so now my body'sresponding to that.
You know, can we all be perfectall the time?
No Right, we're here to livelife, for sure, but recognizing
like sickness hasn't happened tous, it's like it's it's always
something that our body's notresponding to.
(50:06):
It's always something that wecan get our bodies to be better
and we don't have to live a lifejust waiting for the next
sickness.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, not a good place to be.
No, yeah, awesome.
Thanks for being here, man.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Dude, thanks for having me on.
I'm stoked to just get to knowyou more and be a part of this,
uh, this Palm Harbor community.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, thanks, dude.
Welcome to Palm Harbor Local, where we bring you
inspiring stories from theheart of our community.
I'm your host, donnie Hathaway,and today we are joined by
Dylan Mon, who is the owner ofMonarch Chiropractic, with
locations in St Pete and Dunedin.
Now our show is all aboutcelebrating those who put in the
sweat, overcome the hurdles andstill find time to give back to
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the community.
If you want to be inspired byhow they got started, what keeps
them going and what they'redoing to make Palm Harbor even
more awesome, you're in theright place.
In today's episode, we'll talkwith Dylan about the story of
his first adjustment, why Dylanbelieved so strongly in
chiropractic care and howmonochiropractic became what it
is today.
Now be sure to follow us onInstagram at palmharborlocal for
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palmharborlocalcom.
Let's go meet Dylan.
Dylan, welcome to Palm HarborLocal.
Man Excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It is great to be on.
I'm excited to be here as well.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So it's been a.
I was just thinking about thisbefore, but we've been talking
about doing this podcast forquite some time, and just life
got in the way and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, Well, life hurricanes, children running a
business, expanding a business,just all the things Like.
I think I first caught wind ofPalm Harbor podcast when Dr
Caleb was on.
Yeah, and he was like dude, yougot to get out on this podcast,
you got to meet this guy andit's been like in my field since
then.
And here we are, maybe a yearlater, and like finally making
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it happen.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, it's all right, man, it's a life happens and
yeah, I'm excited we're here.
So you're, you're achiropractor.
I want to start there and, likewe were just talking about,
from the chiropractors that I'vespoken with and I've had on the
podcast and stuff, they've allkind of came into chiropractics
like later on in their career orthey like in college, like
(01:52):
they're trying to figure outwhat they wanted to do, and then
met somebody who was inchiropractors and then, you know
, took off from there.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Your story is different, like you've, you've
known about chiropractic from anearly age and been involved
with it from an early age, right, so for me, um, I found
chiropractic when I was 15 yearsold, when, um, I wasn't looking
for it for myself, which ispart of the reason why we do
certain things in our practicethe way that we do.
(02:19):
Um, my, I grew up in a bluecollar family home.
My dad owns a landscaping lawmaintenance company, Um, and the
story essentially goes that mymom was tired of hearing him
complain about his back pain andsaid, like listen, there's this
chiropractor in town.
I hear good things about it.
I think this guy could reallyhelp you go schedule an
(02:40):
appointment.
Um, my dad goes and schedulesan appointment, lands in a
chiropractor's office that I nowunderstand to be what we call a
principled chiropractor in theindustry, and essentially all
that means is there is a varietyof a spectrum, uh, for how to
practice.
Chiropractic is why you canwalk into one office and
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experience one thing, walk intoanother office and experience
something totally different.
Um, that spectrum, um, we'llhave some chiropractors sort of
being what we call accidentchasers, where they're just kind
of chasing car accidents andpicking up the, uh, the pieces
that are there.
Um, you have some chiropractorsthat are more rehab focused,
where it's like, uh, followingaround athletes and um, people
(03:22):
that are getting injuries thatway, or maybe older people and
kind of trying to rehab injurieswhen they inevitably happen.
And then you have somechiropractors that are focused
on more holistic health andhealing, and that's going to be
where you're called yourprincipled chiropractor, which
basically means we have aphilosophy on how health and
healing works and we practicechiropractic within that
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philosophy.
This chiropractor back in theday for my story happened to be
a principal chiropractor, and sowhat that meant was, even
though my dad came in lookingfor help with his back pain,
what he got was so much morethan that, and what he got was
education and understanding howhealth and healing works in his
body, and not only that for himbefore his whole family.
(04:04):
And so, uh, the doc, dr MattSimons, uh, the guy who got it
all started for me, um, heinvited our whole family to come
in and sort of learn thisprinciple of health and healing.
Okay, and I remember I was 15years old I'm sitting in the
back of the room while he'sgiving this class, of which we
are actually developing videosfor, um, but he's giving this
class and he's teaching you like, hey, your body's designed to
(04:26):
heal, your body's not designedto be sick, and then talking
about what does it mean when youare sick and how your body's
trying to respond and heal andprocess something I remember the
big aha for me was when hetalked about just the common
cold.
Right, the common cold, whenyour body sort of is fighting a
virus and so it creates a fever,it creates a runny nose, it
(04:47):
creates a headache, body aches,all these symptoms of your body
responding to fight the virus,and in Western culture what we
take is we take medicines toreduce those symptoms and that
being this like symptom-basedcare, and so it just inspired me
.
I understood that there wassomething different for how to
facilitate health and healing.
(05:08):
My dad went on to have a prettymiraculous story with this
chiropractor.
Um, about a month into care,all of the pharmaceuticals that
he was on for his uh, diabetesactually was dropped by 50 or
75% by changing nothing else inhis lifestyle yet just getting
adjusted.
And that sort of got me reallycurious.
(05:28):
I started asking questions andlearning how, when the brain and
the body are connected to oneanother, the body can heal, and
then kind of took that down asfar as the rabbit hole would go.
I started interning with thischiropractor and volunteering
with him.
My now wife, then girlfriend,had migraines at the time.
So I was like listen, I knowthat this could help my
girlfriend.
Can I volunteer for you to likepay for her care?
(05:48):
You know, I was just.
I understood this concept and Ijust wanted to get it, the
message out to the world andeveryone that I could help.
And that was the beginning ofthe end for me.
You know I was 15, then I'mabout to turn 33 next week, and
so for over half my life I'vebeen growing in this principle,
that is, the chiropracticprinciple.
And how can I get better atdelivering this to more people,
(06:12):
so that more people can discoverthat their body heals naturally
and on the inside?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, Were you so at 15, like this is when you were
like curious about it andstarted interning and stuff with
with him.
Yeah, when does that curiositycome from?
Like, are you just curious bynature?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think I think so.
Um, I I found spirituality inlike fourth or fifth grade which
, being an adult and kind oflooking back to when I was, um,
starting to get really involvedwith the church, and kind of
have those like early memories.
You know you, you go back andyou're like involved with the
church and kind of have thoselike early memories.
You know you go back and you'relike was I?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I remember those thoughts and I can.
I remember the childhood, dylan, that was contemplating ideas
of God and truth and reality,and I think it always just kind
of evolved with me.
Like you know, you have a fifthgraders mind, but I just always
had questions.
I was always very curious aboutwhat's real, what's true, um,
what are we here for?
Um and from from a young age Ido think that was just always in
(07:10):
my nature.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I worked with this chiropractor at an early age,
and then you went to schoolimmediately after, after you
graduated high school.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So after high school I went to undergrad.
I had a full ride for undergradwith a like prepaid stuff and
some scholarships, and so Ifigured I wasn't in a huge hurry
.
I wasn't going to go straightinto chiropractic school.
I wanted to have a more normalcollege experience.
And to my mom's notion she waslike, listen, you've wanted to
do this since you were 15, butwho knows, maybe you'll change
(07:37):
your mind Like let's keep thefield open, right?
So I went to UCF for undergrad.
Never changed my major once.
I was like, just on a one trackshot of get out of my way, get
me my degree.
I want to be a chiropractor.
I'm going to do this thing.
I'm going to help people healthis way for the rest of my life
.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, and did you so?
Going to chiropractic school,did you learn like the different
, like you're talking aboutbefore, like the different
modalities of way to practicechiropractic?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So chiropractic school is it's going to.
It gave me the baselineknowledge.
So the chiropractic school alot of school is actually very
similar to all doctor school,meaning whether you become an MD
, a DO, a DC, these are allportal of entry doctors and so
we need to be able to like catchanything that would come in
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that might be a red flag orsomething super serious.
Chiropractic school does areally good job at preparing you
to catch those things.
It does a good job at makingsure that you're not going to
hurt anyone.
It does a good job at makingsure that you'll be a mediocre
chiropractor.
School is not set up to makeyou great and, coming from a
(08:48):
great chiropractor, I figuredthis out rather quickly.
I looked around and I saw bothmy peers and colleagues and even
like the teachers that wereteaching it, it was like fairly
lackluster.
I was lucky that the schoolthat I went to has the most
clubs and seminars that wouldcome through out of any other
school.
(09:08):
And so I got very involved withextracurricular clubs, finding
teachers that would travelthrough different seminar
circuits, and it got to a placewhere, just a couple months into
school, I was traveling moreweekends than I was staying
local.
I ended up doing 60 chiropracticseminars while I was in school
and I started to figure out forme that it was like, okay,
(09:31):
school is going to get me thedegree, school is going to get
me to pass the boards and it'sgoing to get me to like check
the boxes, but if I really wantto do this in a big way, the way
that I've seen otherchiropractors doing this, it's
going to take me getting outsideof school and learning from
people that are doing it the waythat I want to do it.
Um, when I unlocked that,that's when everything changed
(09:52):
for me.
Um, and so chiropractic schoolended up being this four year
process for me that I juststarted to change um and really
started to dive deeper into whoI was.
I really found myself.
It's like it was this processof you know my whole life I'm
visualizing towards wanting tobecome a chiropractor and I'm at
(10:13):
the very end of this thingbefore I'm finally about to be a
chiropractor, and I can neverundo that.
So, what I realized was schoolwas this like initiation process
?
I discovered breath work.
I discovered the art offacilitating hands-on healing,
which is it's a wild phenomenon.
It's it's wild to be able toplace your hands on someone and
(10:38):
to feel what they're feeling.
Um, I remember, I remember theme before I knew that that was
possible and learning that it'spossible to lay your hands on
someone and to know what they'refeeling.
And like going through differenttrainings and experiences of
having people lay down and pickan emotion and feel that emotion
(11:00):
and without me knowing whatemotion they're feeling, feeling
what emotion they're feeling,feeling what emotion they're
feeling, it starts to really.
For me, it started to reallychallenge a lot of my previous
conceived beliefs of what wasreal and what wasn't real.
Yeah, and then I started toquestion every single belief
(11:21):
that I had ever had, especiallyif it was a belief that was
maybe given to me, right, Um,that maybe I learned um in
religion, or maybe learned in abook, or maybe learned in a
podcast, like anything that Iknew that I hadn't found on my
own.
I was like, okay, let's unpackthat a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Let's dive deeper.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And in diving deeper, I just um, uh, I found.
I found who I was inchiropractic school.
I left chiropractic school verydifferent than I entered Um.
I left being someone that umwas just like all the way in the
deep end of you know.
Even the human experience righthere is like rather weird.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Um and so kind of took everything off the table of
what's normal and what's notnormal, and I think that put me
in a good place to being able tobe a provider for people,
because everyone's coming inwith their own unique story and
when you're more open tolistening to that, I find that
that's when people start toprocess and hear and feel
exactly what they need to, whichallows them to change
(12:22):
specifically to them.
There's no single person thathas gone through the exact same
healing experience.
In my practice, everything isunique and that just comes from
recognizing that we're allhaving a unique experience.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.
So a couple of things I want todive into there.
One is school.
Do you think school should domore to set you up to be a
better, to be a greatchiropractor?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes and no I'm.
I'm of the notion of liketaking radical responsibility,
and so the no in me is just likeeveryone can just figure it out
.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You know, I had the exact same resources that
everyone else had and I was ableto do what I did with it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
The way that I did, um, the yes part is, you know,
yeah, there's a lot more that'sbeing left on the table.
It's it's a watered downversion, um, but when you create
something that is that largeand designed to be reproducible
across the board, how much canyou get out of it?
Yeah, true.
You know it's, chiropractic is aphilosophy, a science and an
(13:27):
art, and so I think that schoolshould do a very good job at um
making sure that everyone knowsthe philosophy, everyone knows
the science and everyone has anopportunity to explore the art.
Yeah, Um because differentchiropractors are going to
practice differently anddifferent arts just have to be
fostered from within true?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
yeah, that makes sense.
It makes sense.
I feel like I was thinking backto, like you know, real estate
school, although it's like muchdifferent than chiropractic
school, but same thing like wealways joke about, like you
don't learn anything you learnin real estate school, like it's
not usable in in what you'redoing and a lot of it's not yeah
, I find that that's mostprofessional schools.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
The schooling is just a little bit behind it and so
it's like, yeah, well, we'd liketo do it for sure and there's
other ways to get through it.
I think that the gauntlet ofschool, of just like proving
that you can go through thislong, committed process and not
give up and have the multipleexams and finals it's like we've
gone through things toexperience, you know, different
(14:27):
heartache that just kind ofcauses you to level up in
different ways in your own justhuman development.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And maybe it's just like the school is just like the
foundation of whatever you'reyou're going for, right, and
then you explore whatever youwant to do after that.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I like that.
So so talk to me about like the.
When I first met dr caleb andand you know he was kind of
explaining like what you guys doand how you guys practice and
everything but like the, the artof, uh, like feeling someone,
like when they're on the tableand stuff, and knowing what
needs to be adjusted, like howdoes that?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
so a lot of this comes with, uh, training the
intuitive mind.
You have your um, you have yourintellect and then you have
your intuition.
These are both two differentparts of your mind.
Everyone's experienced both.
You've experienced when youknow something because you've
learned something and oh, I knowthat information Um, we spend a
lot of our life building up ourintellect.
We've also all experienced justhaving that gut feeling and
(15:24):
that gut knowing.
You've had plenty of times thatit's been right right.
What I've learned is, as youbuild up the intellect, you have
capacity for the intuition,right, and so school does a
really good job at giving youall of the stuff you need to
build up your intellect.
School taught me what musclesconnect to what muscles, what
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parts of the body is controlledby other parts of the stuff you
need to build up your intellect.
School taught me what musclesconnect to what muscles, what
parts of the body is controlledby other parts of the body.
Like, school gave me the wholeroadmap, right, if you will.
Yeah, the intuition comes in inlearning how to simply take
what you know and just listenand be present with it, right,
and so the more that I know thebody, the easier it is for me to
(16:06):
come up and not look foranything but to allow the body
to talk to me, right.
In the same way, you told meearlier that you've been doing
these podcasts for five years,right, you know when a
conversation is just starting toget good you know when it's
like, okay, I've got thisframework that I'm going to be
building off of, but then wemight go totally off the
framework and just kind offollow this organic thing.
You can start to feel when itjust starts to happen, there's a
(16:27):
good conversation happening.
That same thing happens with meand my people every time that
they're on the table, but withmy hands, in the same way that
you can give someone a hug thatyou know well and you can tell
if that person's having a goodday or a bad day, if they're on
or off.
No one had to teach you that,you could just feel it.
We've trained our hands tostart to get there Right, and so
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the way that we do that in ourpractice is everything is
connection based.
So at no point in time are wejust trying to take you through
a process or just trying to havea means to an end.
Every time it's about how can Iconnect with you and how can I
get you to connect better to thepresent moment.
Now, the beauty of the personthat is trying to connect you to
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that present moment is thatperson is someone who
understands more about your bodythan you even understand
yourself, and so, in the pathwayof bringing you to you and
bringing you from being out hereto being in here and present
and connected with yourself.
That pathway inward, there'sgoing to be lessons along the
way.
Those lessons along the way,some of them can be learned in
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an instant, in a moment whenthat adjusting force comes
through and you feel your bodymove differently and all of a
sudden it's like, oh wow, Ididn't know my body could move
that way and maybe maybe,cognitively and intellectually,
you feel something different.
That is now teaching yourneurology how to move in that
pattern.
Then you couple that in withthe education on being told like
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you're holding your body in allthese different ways.
Now you're also learning toshift things outside of it.
It becomes a journey where thechiropractor is just your guide
to bring you into more harmonywith yourself.
And how we do that at Mana is bydiscovering where is there a
disconnect between you and thefunctional you.
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Why the functional you?
Because the machine that is thebody has correct ways of
working and incorrect ways ofworking.
When the incorrect ways ofworking are happening for too
long, it leads to pain.
The pain leads to you coming into find me.
I help you to understand thatpain is from these dysfunctional
movement patterns.
When you get them moving right,you start to feel better, but
(18:39):
you're also more connected toyourself.
So it's just like two-partjourney, where it's like you're
trying to get out of pain, I'mtrying to bring you back
oscillation with your body, theyou in your head, the you and
your heart, connecting with theyou and your body.
And when all of that's movingin frequency and harmony, now we
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have true opportunity forhealing, where you feel a heck
of a lot better and you'rethinking better, you're moving
better, you're making betterdecisions.
It's really really, reallyfascinating to see how people
change when you get everythingvibing at the same frequency.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, does that take?
Like, how long does that?
Typically is there, like youknow it takes, you know, a
couple of weeks or so it'sdifferent from person to person.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Um, there, it's very much so a process.
What I will see is the peoplethat want it more, we'll get
into it more.
The people that are resistanceof it more will have a uh, it'll
take more time, typicallywithin a month or so.
That's when people are reallystarting to have big changes.
Um, you're feeling a lot betterin two to three weeks.
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You're feeling a lot differentin three to four weeks.
And when people start to havethose changes, that's when we
start to have them through themomentum phase, where now it's
easy to just add things on top.
When was your first adjustment14, 15 years old.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, yeah, so right when your dad was going yeah,
crazy, and you've been did youstick with being adjusted
regularly at that age?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I've essentially been getting
adjusted since I was 14, 15.
Um, right, whenever the familykind of found it, and um, I'd
say, the longest I've gonewithout an adjustment is
probably less than a month, um,since then.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And you, how often do you write Like if you're, if
you're on schedule, how often doyou get?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
if I'm on schedule, I get adjusted once a week.
Once a week, yep, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's what I've been doing.
Now is once a week, but yeah, Iwould say like I noticed the
changes.
It'd probably be like a monthin, right, it was probably, you
know, three, four weeks in islike when I started to notice,
like just feeling better, nothaving like the because I came
in because of my neck was tenseand whatever sure um so like
(21:01):
just feeling more relaxed andmore comfortable, good like
three, four weeks in good for mewhat I do.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I use it a bit more now for learning about myself,
um, knowing that every singleadjustment is changing my brain,
that every adjustment iscreating more neuroplastic
change, which is the ability forthe brain to change over time.
I like to lay on the table andjust start by breathing and
noticing where is breath maybemoving differently from one side
(21:27):
of my body to another?
Where do things feel stuck?
I like to play a little game ofalmost like feeling.
Where do I notice things feelstuck?
I like to play a little game ofalmost like feeling.
Where do I notice things feel,um, not at ease in my body?
And then, where does the docfeel it?
Um, I like to kind of feel thatconnection between the two.
And and then just like learning, you know learning.
What do they feel in my system?
How can I feel things open updifferently?
(21:48):
Um, the more present that I amwith my adjustment, the deeper
the adjustment always goes.
It's just like a little momentto shut everything else off and
to just be fully present withmyself.
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So when you're laying on thetable I've thought about this
often before of like you know ifyou come in and knowing like I
have a spot that's beenbothering me for the last week,
(23:51):
whatever, are you telling thedoctor that?
Or do you want to see if theyfind it, or see what else they
find?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So that's actually a great question.
Instead of telling them orinstead of seeing if they find
it, I am actually asking myselfthe question what are they going
to discover about this?
This is a good one for us toget into.
I'm feeling something.
This is a good one for us toget into.
I'm feeling something.
What I understand about thebody is I know that I could be
feeling something in that area,but that might not be the area
(24:18):
where it needs an adjustedthrust, and so I'm going to take
this into my hands of like okay, I know that I feel that there,
but I know it's also connectedto other things.
What are they going to feel sothat I can learn about how I can
change up my movement patternsoutside of here?
Right, so I'll intentionallynot tell them where I'm feeling
it, but I'm also intentionallynot seeing.
(24:40):
Will they find it?
Rather, I'm seeing they'regoing to find it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
What are they going to be able to tell me about what
I'm feeling, so that I canchange the way that I'm moving
between sessions?
Um, and every time, what'sfunny is, even if, like the
joint, that I wanted them to pop, because that was where I felt
that if I didn't feel it rightthere, if it didn't get popped
right there, if I'm just quiet,give it 10 to 15 minutes.
(25:06):
A few minutes later, my body'slike that's exactly what you
needed.
And it kind of dials everythingin.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, because I've done thatwith, with caleb too, where it's
like I I'll let him, kind of,like you know, do his his, his
thing or whatever, and and Iwould, I would agree like same
thing, like, even if it's notlike oh, that was like you
adjusted that spot, or whatever,or like my shoulder or
something like that.
Um, it usually like later thatday or the next day, like it's,
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it's gone.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It all.
It's all interconnected.
It's just these high pointswhere you feel like the tension
point but it's, allinterconnected, and as long as
that gets unwound then it'sgoing to be better.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
What do you love about chiropractic?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Ooh, the thing that I love the most about it is how
it can help people to experiencemore of themselves.
Um, I thought that I lovedchiropractic just as being
another holistic healingmodality.
What I love the most aboutchiropractic is watching people
feel themselves.
Um, that's the biggestfascination that I find in it.
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When I see people take thatdeep breath, um, have that
release, feel that like that,that that elated feeling of like
, oh, that was it, and now I canjust breathe and be there,
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I like that.
I like that.
So you guys recently changed toto Monica chiropractic.
How long have you um been?
Uh, did you?
Did you start your businesslike right out of school, or did
you practice elsewhere?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So when I graduated school I moved out to Oakland,
california, to join a couple offriends of mine in their
practice.
I was an associate.
The practice was called theSource Chiropractic and at the
time there was two locations,one in Oakland and one in Denver
.
The vision was always to build,like a franchise or a practice
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management group, something tokind of take these systems out
to the masses.
And while I was an associateout at the Source in Oakland, we
had COVID hit and so thatradically changed everything.
We kind of like rebuilt thebusiness structure and really
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just dialed it all in Before Iwas ready to leave.
We wanted to take it and turnit into a franchise.
The guys that were aboutstarting that was Dr Brett, dr
Darren and Dr Jordan.
They asked me if I wanted to doit with them.
They asked me if I want to bethe fourth franchisor and help
them to.
You know, take this brandnationwide.
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Um, in my time working with themout in Oakland, um, I had
always planned to go off and domy own thing.
Um, but I really loved thething that we were creating.
We had a lot of fun doing it.
Um, I felt really inspired bythe brand and the mission, and
so I said you know what thisfeels, right, let's, let's go
ahead and do this.
Um, I decided to join them inthat mission.
Um, and man, the truth is juststarting a franchise is it's
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hard?
Um, starting like a big business, like that's really tough.
Um, and I just started torealize, as we were launching
the business out here, first westarted with the source in St
Pete and, man, we crushed thesmall business, local stuff, so
well that a year later wealready launched the source in
Dunedin and I had just reallyfallen in love with being a
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small business owner.
Um, I put so much energy andpassion and grit into all the
things that we could do in ourlocal communities that I was
losing momentum and energy for,like the bigger picture of it
all.
Um, there was a number ofthings that I wanted to do to to
continue changing the business.
The problem is is, when you'relaunching a franchise, that much
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change, that quickly, kind ofit doesn't give it enough
stability.
And so I realized that thefranchise mission was just not
in alignment for me, that I wasmuch more inspired to stay local
and to kind of focus everythinghere, that there was too many
things that I wanted to changetoo quickly and that I was not
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just an artist, as achiropractor, but also as a
business owner.
And I needed like to justexpress some artistic expression
and the ability to change somethings, and so talked to the
whole team, felt where they wereat with it.
Everyone felt really good withwanting to branch off and create
our own thing.
And so we've rebuilt ourinitial exam process.
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We are rebuilding our long-termcare process.
We're bringing in some newtechnology that's measuring the
nervous system differently.
Um, we built, uh, somedifferent long-term offerings
for our wellness clients, justkind of like wanting to change a
number of things, and in all ofthe changing, it's like this
just isn't the source anymore.
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Um this is something that'sturned into something new, and
we decided to name that MonoChiropractic.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
Did you ever want to be abusiness owner?
Was that always part of theplan?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Being a business owner was always part of it.
I grew up in uh in a smallbusiness family.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And so I've never seen mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
They both ran the business together.
So I've never seen like asteady paycheck.
I've never seen um just likeclocking in and clocking out is
dinner talks.
Uh uh, business talks at thedinner table every night.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, what do you like about?
About being a business owner?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Uh, the freedom, you know.
Um the freedom to, to have justradical expression, um staying
fully authentic with who I am,what I'm doing, um only really
myself and my clients to answerto.
When I say freedom, I don'tmean the freedom to work less
either.
Um, I think that's the biggestmisconception for business
people.
Like I want to get new businessownership so I don't have to
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work this 40 hours.
You know, nine to five, yeah,like I want to get new business
ownership so I don't have towork this 40 hours, you know 9
to 5.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I work more.
I'm working on the thing that Iwant to all the time, right,
and I still have the freedom tocreate exactly what it is that I
want to create.
I like betting on myself.
I've got a high risk tolerance.
I'd rather bet it all on me andwe'll see where we land.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'd rather bet it all on me and we'll see where we
land.
Yeah, and maybe that falls backto like your you mentioned like
early on, like being able tolike discovering yourself like
the end of chiropractic schoolright, like having confidence in
, like who you are, where you'regoing, what you want to do.
You're just like, I'll make ithappen.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think if your vision's clear, you can
accomplish anything.
That's one of the things thatwe do as a team.
Every single year.
we do our vision quest at thebeginning of the year where we
go out of town we just had itthis last weekend we go out of
town and we spend the entireweek and focusing on three
things.
First piece is just connectionwith each other and connection
with ourselves.
The second piece is visualizinglike where do we want to
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actually take this business?
And so that's by looking at ournumbers from the year prior and
then projecting into where arewe going in this next year, as
well as what are the things thatwe did this last year that
worked really well and what arethe things we want to implement
going into this next year.
And then the last thing that wedo is we work on just personal
growth, and so two years ago wedid human design.
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Last year we did a strengthsanalysis test.
This year, uh, we had just done, uh, the enneagrams.
But it's always something tounpack something deeper in, like
our psyche or our strengths andlike how we operate in the
world, because when the team isthat dialed in, it just sets us
up for success every year, so ifthe vision's clear you're,
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you're on track.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, did you?
What did?
What have you, um like, thinkback to your childhood.
What is one thing that youthink you learned from your
parents, like in those dinnertalks, or just them being
business owners?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'd say the biggest thing I take away from being
raised in my parents' home andthe way that they run a business
is how they always like puttheir team first.
My parents owned a landscapingand law maintenance company, but
every single year there wasstill a Christmas dinner.
Right, and even employees thatwere maybe newer on the team
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that you're not supposed to havea Christmas bonus until you've
been on the team for six months.
My mom would still always givea Christmas bonus, even if they
had only been there for a monthor two.
she would just prorate it Right,um, but in that industry there
really isn't even a Christmasdinner you know, Um like my
parents don't even speak fullSpanish, but they would still
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bring the whole team outinviting their families, always
with like plus one, plus two,like bring the whole crew.
I remember being at Christmasdinner parties of like 50 people
, of which 10 of them speakEnglish and everyone else only
speaks Spanish.
It's just this big party andwatching everyone feel really
happy and connected with likethat always really just stuck
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out to me as like, okay, that'ssomething that a boss could do,
that's different.
Um, that just makes people feelappreciated.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, and I think you get, um, you get buy-in from
your, from your team members,right, they want to be there and
, and and are excited to bethere and excited to, to you
know, live out that mission thatyou have.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
It's gotta be about about more than just a job.
If it's just a job, at the endof the day it's always just
going to get flat, it's going toget stale.
Um, but if you're buildingsomething where this is year
after year, it's valuable forthe team members to be on the
team.
Then, year after year, that'sgoing to also have a trickle
down effect that it's valuablefor your clients to still be
involved If the team's growingthen the whole thing grows.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
If the team starts to get stagnant, everything else
also gets stagnant.
I think more business ownersneed to understand like that
aspect of it right, because theythey get so focused on just
trying to make a dollar andtrying to make the business grow
, whatever they forget aboutwho's making the business grow.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Right, you know everyone can feel that too.
Yeah, I talked to so many otherum, even just chiropractors or
other team members where it'slike I can, I feel like
everything that my boss wants todo is just about the bottom
line.
Um, and if that's what italways feels like, you start to
build a team of people that feellike they're just working for
you, just working on like youhelping you get your nut.
(35:04):
Um, if, if it ever turns intothat, like I'll be out of
business.
That's not what.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I'm here for.
It's just too empty of a lifefor me.
Yeah, so bringing on staff orbringing on other chiropractors,
how has that process been foryou, like any tips, anything
that's worked for you to findthose right people that fit.
I think that's the hardest part, right, like finding people
that fit.
Think that's the hardest part,right, like finding people, um,
that fit.
You know you're gonna hireculture.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
You know it's.
It's like hiring culture is abig thing for me.
Um, let me see so you focus on.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So it's culture, like that's your number one, like
they've got to fit the culture,yeah, then they've got to have
the skill set or the knowledgeor whatever like they've got to
have the basic skill set Um, um.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So for docs, you have to have the skills, you have to
have the culture, you have tohave the principle.
Um docs like I have a very,very narrow, um uh, a narrow
pool of which I'm hiring from.
There's very few docs that I'llhire to join our team.
Um, for CAs, that's been moreof a learning process because
you're finding, like, who fitsthis other aspect of your team.
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I am a chiropractor and so Iknow what my chiropractic team
is gaining or lacking right.
But in my CAs I've actuallyfound that hiring also from
within the client base has beenwhere I've found some of my best
CAs.
Oh, really yeah where I'm foundsome of my best CAs.
Oh really, yeah.
Um, so my best CAs are CAs thathave been clients first, have
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experienced this work, have, uh,this sort of like just heart
for it, heart for it in, like, away of like really enjoying it,
desiring it, seeing how helpfulthis can be to other people.
It's like if I can hire theheart, I can teach the mind.
Um, if I can hire the passion,I can teach the skills.
Um, but I can't teach passion,I can't teach alignment.
Um, we, we, our team, like, welive our life a certain way.
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Like no one on my team has hadan antibiotic in years, if not
decades, um, there's not apharmaceutical anywhere in my
house, right.
And while I can't like legallyhire someone and say, hey,
listen, right.
And while I can't like legallyhire someone and say, hey,
listen, you need to be all in onthis team, it's, it's not that,
but it's like there's thisunspoken of we're all on this
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same team, living life with thesame values, and as long as
there's that, we have a lot ofalignment.
And if we have this alignment,then I can teach the skills that
need to be fostered.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, I think I was talking to Caleb about the
pharmaceuticals or someone.
But, um, I had been to a CVS orsomething recently and, uh, to
pick up some, some antibioticsfor our daughter when she was
going through some stuff, and um, like in that moment, I walked
into the CVS and you know you goto the pharmacy in the back or
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whatever and the amount ofprescriptions that were filled
and like ready to be, you know,picked up in that one CVS was
like insane.
And I'm looking at this I'm likeit is wild, it's a lot, man,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's a lot.
I uh, I can't remember the lasttime that I took anything as
much as even something over thecounter.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And that's the piece of like, just stacking
compounding wellness.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're all very familiar with what what it looks
like to have compoundingillness and sickness that's been
stacked on we.
We see these people walkingaround, but what you can also
know is like you can stackcompounding wellness as well,
and so when I get sick which ithappens, I can, just I can pile
through you know, I'm okay.
I can be uncomfortable for a fewhours.
(38:36):
I can be uncomfortable for acouple of days.
Um, I've had a headache before.
Um, I can have a headache and Ican ride the wave and just
experience it.
But what's nice is I don't thinkactually I can confidently say
that I've never been sick enoughthat I've gotten worried, and
I'm realizing that not a lot ofpeople feel that way, that
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plenty of people like you startto get sick and like there's a,
there's a point in time when,like, people get a little
worried.
If you've ever been sick enoughthat you've gone to the ER,
you've been sick enough that,like you, got worried.
And if you're living a lifesuch that you've ended up in a
place where this sickness hasmade you worried to the point of
I might need to go to the ER orthe urgent care or something,
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cause I just don't know, you'veleft a lot on the table for a
long time.
That's just the blunt realityof it.
Um, that you've been livingunhealthy for a long time,
that's now.
This is possible, yeah, um, butif you're living healthy for a
long time, that's way lesslikely.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Way less likely.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So what are you doing to, besides getting your
adjustments and stuff weekly,what else are you doing to, like
, take care of you?
That's like your, you know topthree, top five things like
health habits.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Totally Um.
For me, the number one thing isyour thoughts, your thoughts
and your mindset.
Everyone wants to go with allthe different things you can
like, add in on top of that, butthoughts and mindset.
If you're eating well, movingwell, but you still think
terrible thoughts about yourselfor about your life and you're
waiting for the shoe to drop,you'll still just constantly
keep manifesting that, and soI'm a delusional optimist.
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Milton flooded our house.
I haven't been in my house forhowever many months that's been.
Um but I'm a delusional optimistand like life genuinely is good
.
Uh, when my clients ask me howare things going, the knee jerk
reaction is thanks for feelinggood.
I'm good, um.
Next thing is I stay movingRight, um, and it's just an
active lifestyle.
(40:27):
Uh, I'm not.
I'm not Caleb, and so Caleb'sin the gym nine days a week.
He's in the gym nine days aweek, and that was not a typo
there.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
He's in the gym nine days a week.
That's not quite me.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
But I stay active.
In no way would anyone describemy lifestyle as sedentary.
I'm moving every day quite abit.
I've got push days, I've gotrest days, but I'm moving every
day quite a bit.
I've got push days, I've gotrest days, but I'm moving every
single day.
And then eating real foods.
Right, I stay away from theseed oils, I definitely stay
away from anything processed,and in the middle of the grocery
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store I still like some icecream here and there.
I'm still living life.
I'm a bit more well rounded, ifyou will, but my meals are
based on living food.
Living food.
Drink water, eat living food,move your body, get adjusted,
have positive thoughts.
It's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
What are you so your positive thoughts or mindset,
like what are you doing tocontrol that?
Like, keep that in check?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
staying curious, and I believe there might even be a
soundbite between you and DrEvan, because he's another one
that's big on curiosity.
But saying curious, I am not adelusional optimist in the sense
of just lying to myself, butdelusionally optimistic about
the fact that there is some way,shape or form, that this is
happening for me and I'm gonnafigure out how I'm gonna pull
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the goodness out of this.
I'm going to live through, howI'm going to pull the goodness
out of this.
I'm going to live through thisexperience, and with gratitude,
and if I can accomplish that,then there's going to be
something good in this for me.
So that's that's where it'sjust like staying curious and
trying to understand.
Um, how can I experience moreout of whatever the situation?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
is Love.
That Do you.
Is that mindset always beenthere for you?
Or is that something youlearned like in school, or I
think for me it actually startedwith religion.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Um, I grew up in like , uh, a pretty religious
Christian home.
Um, uh, story continues to goback to pops, and so dad was, um
, dad was an alcoholic foundrecovery Um, recovery and
chiropractic just a few yearsapart from one another.
But he found recovery and a lotof that was with the church.
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And so at a young age I wasjust watching things happen in
my family's life and no one hadto convince me if God was real
or not.
I watched my parents go fromdysfunctional and problematic to
functional and loving eachother and like steering our
family in the right direction.
And the addition, there wasthis God character and this book
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that we're now reading andstudying, and these good people
that are coming into our lives,kind of like making my parents
better, making me better.
I'm like, okay, this God thingseems to fit Um and in, in going
into that and just kind of likelearning about that.
That's where the, the discoveryfor truth, just kind of started
.
So I was always curious.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a big thing.
Like people just need to becurious at all times, right, I
think that can lead to so muchgrowth and discovery.
Um, if you're just curious,yeah, yeah, I love it.
Okay, so your, I've only beento actually I took that back.
I've been to one of thechiropractic clinic before, but
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the way you guys operate andyour your open concept, right,
where everyone is gettingadjusted in the same room yes,
is that, is that normal for,like, your style of chiropractic
, or is that just something thatyou guys have done?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
It's something that we've developed.
It's I don't know if it's so.
Our style of chiropractic justisn't normal.
Yeah, like that's definitelyone qualifying piece.
I couldn't find you a doc inevery major city in the US.
The practice is like that, likepracticing like that.
Okay, so like just qualifyingthat.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
You, I couldn't find you a doc in every major city in
the U S and like kind of likepracticing like that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Okay, so like just qualifying that, um, many that
are blending the more structuralwork with the energetic work.
Um, I will see more in an openbay style and the reason for
that is it just like gives theperson some more time to process
.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Right.
Um, if you're going in for anadjustment and the adjustment
sole purpose is to just movejoints, I can do that really
efficiently in a private room.
Come in the room, just boom,boom, boom, boom, awesome, see
you.
Floor gives me the ability tonot serve you on a specific
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schedule but serve you withinthe boundary of a schedule.
So you might come in one dayand you need some more time to
lay on the table and process.
Maybe you just need to breathefor a few minutes.
Maybe I need to lay you on theblocks that we use and help
gravity to unwind your pelvisfor a bit longer.
Maybe you're coming in and likelife's just been a little bit
heavy and today's an adjustmentthat like moves some emotion for
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you Rather than ushering youalong and like being like, okay,
I've only got this amount oftime, like we've got to get
through this.
I can let you lay there andprocess.
I can let you listen to themusic, I can use some of my
sprays and my smudges.
Just let you be in the healingenvironment.
(45:34):
And that's the other piece.
Healing has always happened inan environment, right For
millennia, when we were livingas human beings of community,
the way that healing wouldhappen in tribal space, would be
more ritualistic, and so therewas healing rituals and
ceremonies.
That was developed amongsthuman beings.
It would always happen in aceremony type setting, and so we
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like to create more of thatenvironment where it's like hey,
listen, we're all humans, we'reall on this journey together,
and with that, the piece is veryoften someone's laying on the
table and they hear somethingfrom a doctor, two tables down,
that they just needed to hearthat day.
That was like the perfect thingfor them, and that's where
everything's happening all atonce, the exactly the way it
needs to be.
(46:17):
So that's the reason why we doit, yeah I like it well.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I mean, one of the things I like about it is like
there's been times when I youknow, I think for I think the
best adjustments that I've hadare when I'm totally relaxed and
open to the adjustment that dayor whatever and I notice
sometimes I'll come in there andI'll be a little tense and
anxious or whatever, just forthe day or the busyness of the
schedule or whatever it is.
(46:41):
But going in there and beingable to lay on the table and
just calm my breath down, take afew deep breaths and just kind
of like, get into that, intothat zone, um gives you that
opportunity to do that.
I agree, yeah, I love it.
I love it.
So what is last question here?
What is one thing that you wantpeople to know about
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chiropractic?
What?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
is one thing that I want people to know about
chiropractic, that I want peopleto know about chiropractic.
The one thing I want people toknow about chiropractic is that
it is about the nervous system.
If people knew what I knewabout chiropractic, it would be
the number one thing that anyonethat values wellness would be
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building their wellnessfoundation from, and that is
that it is for the nervoussystem.
We are less interested inworking on even the body.
We are more interested onbasically being the functional
trainers of your nervous system.
Every single time that you getadjusted, you are changing brain
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activity.
Different parts of your spinestimulate different parts of the
brain to change.
When you get the brain tochange, you get to unlock
everything.
Why do you get to unlockeverything?
Because everything that youexperience in life you're
experiencing through your fivesenses, through your nervous
system.
When your nervous system isstuck in a state of arousal
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which is where most people areat, it's typically a state of
heightened arousal from the bluelight on our phones, from the
go go go society that we're in,from the poisons in our food,
from the anxiety of constantlytrying to catch that thing where
I can constantly take.
Like, get to that place where Ican take a breath, like that's
just our society, we're allwe're.
(48:31):
We're very oftenly stuck,ramped up and when you can tune
the nervous system to slow thatdown and have a clear perception
to reality, your entire lifecan change.
Um, I get to watch it with mypractice members that recognize
it's not about just a singleadjustment, but it's about this
compounding wellness and it'sjust about continuing to work on
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my nervous system.
The adjustment shifts, thenervous system changes.
The nervous system allows forthe body to be a clear filter of
life, not a body that is stuckin hyper arousal.
That just makes everything alot worse and a lot more
stressful.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I love that and I love the idea of like
compounding wellness too.
I've never like heard thatbefore or thought about it in
that way, you know, but it'slike it's just small wins and
everything that you do, likeyour mindset, the adjustments,
like moving your body, the foodthat you ingest, like you know,
you're just compounding wellness, the more things that you can
be compounding wellness in inlife.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Your life just starts to become really healthy.
Yeah, as Healthy is a pattern,just like sickness is a pattern.
Anytime that you've fallen intosickness, like most of the time
when we do come down withsomething, we can also
acknowledge it.
It's like I haven't beensleeping as much.
I've been pushing it a littleharder.
I wasn't eating all that great.
I went out drinking lastweekend and, like most of the
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time, it's like yeah, I knewthere was some shit going around
and I can also acknowledge thatI've been off my game a little
bit and so now my body'sresponding to that.
You know, can we all be perfectall the time?
No Right, we're here to livelife, for sure, but recognizing
like sickness hasn't happened tous, it's like it's it's always
something that our body's notresponding to.
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It's always something that wecan get our bodies to be better
and we don't have to live a lifejust waiting for the next
sickness.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, not a good place to be.
No, yeah, awesome.
Thanks for being here, man.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Dude, thanks for having me on.
I'm stoked to just get to knowyou more and be a part of this,
uh, this Palm Harbor community.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, thanks, dude.
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