March 24, 2025 • 41 mins
In this episode of Palm Harbor Local, host Donnie Hathaway sits down with local fitness entrepreneur Nick Nicholas, founder of Naturally Driven Fitness. Nick shares his inspiring 23-year journey in fitness, from training for high school football to building a thriving health business right here in Palm Harbor.
Nick dives deep into:
- Why personal training alone isn’t enough—and what actually helps people transform
- How he simplifies health and fitness with full-service solutions (meal plans, workouts, accountability, supplements & more)
- His honest take on the supplement industry and how to spot high-quality products
- The mindset shifts that turned him from employee to unstoppable entrepreneur
- The impact of 75 Hard, time management strategies, and how he balances ambition with family life
- Why failure became one of the best things that ever happened to him
If you’ve been struggling with consistency, direction, or motivation in your fitness journey—or you're a fellow business owner looking for that extra edge—this episode will fire you up and give you tangible tools to level up.
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Website: naturallydrivenfitness.com
Social Media: @naturallydrivenfitness on all platforms
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Palm Harbor Local, where we bring you
inspiring stories from theheart of our community.
I'm your host, donnie Hathaway,and today we're joined by Nick
Nicholas, who's the owner andfounder of Naturally Driven
Fitness.
Now our show is all aboutcelebrating those who've put in
the sweat, overcome the hurdlesand still find time to give back
to the community.
If you want to be inspired byhow they got started, what keeps
(00:22):
them going and what they'redoing to make Palm Harbor even
more awesome, you're in theright place.
We'll also talk about hisnutrition tips to maintain a
healthy lifestyle and what heloves about his career and the
impact that he's making.
Now be sure to follow us onInstagram at palmharborlocal for
behind the scenes content andjoin our weekly newsletter at
palmharborlocalcom.
Let's go meet Nick.
(00:43):
Newsletter atpalmharborlocalcom.
Let's go meet Nick.
Nick, welcome to the podcast.
All right, thanks so much forhaving me.
Round two.
So, like we were just jokingabout, we recorded a couple of
weeks ago I think three, threeweeks ago now, okay, and my
(01:09):
batteries died died.
So I've since upgraded, pluggedeverything in.
We're good to go.
Greatly appreciate it.
Yeah, this will be the last one, but you can always we'll come
back.
Right, we can always do more.
But um, yes, sir, so naturallydriven fitness, that's the name
of your company.
What do you guys do?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
there.
So what we do is basically putall the things together that
someone needs to lose weight.
So we're putting your meal plantogether.
We're putting your workoutstogether accountability, habits,
recipes, everything thatsomeone needs to do to get in
shape, whether you're buildingmuscle, losing weight.
We're putting it all together,even supplements.
(01:43):
We've got meal prep providers.
So I wanted to solve all theproblems that an individual has
to go through when they're firststarting out lifting weights
and make it easier process CauseI realized personal training is
great, but when I was at gymsback in the day 10 years ago,
all we really did was theworkout.
But I realized there's so manyother problems that the person
(02:06):
has to go through to really getthe success that they're looking
through.
So we wanted to make it easier,solve all their problems for
them.
Uh, quick, easy plan.
Show up, do the work, wash andrepeat and get the result that
you desire.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
How long?
How long have you been intofitness yourself, and then how
long have you been training?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, I've been lifting for coming up on 23
years, so I started when uhgoing into high school at 14 for
football workouts got into itstarted seeing difference in my
body.
I wanted to get better for thesport.
That was the first kind ofobjective bigger, stronger.
Wanted to get better for thesport, that was the first kind
of objective bigger, stronger,faster.
Everyone's kind of heard that.
(02:47):
Um then, as far as training,been training now for uh, almost
nine years- okay we've been atour one location in palm harbor
off us 19 near clausterman therefor six and a half years now
okay, and how long have you had?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
how long have you had naturally driven fitness?
Has that been nine years or youstarted elsewhere?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Started that.
That's going to be about eightand a half years.
Okay, yep, I was an independentcontractor at a gym, uh, doing
that whole deal, but deep down Ialways wanted to run my own
show do my own thing, my ownmarketing, and took about two
years to build up the clientele.
Okay, this is working, let's goahead and go do it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Is that typically how trainers get started?
Is working at a gym, out of agym.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, yeah, definitely .
I think it's important, for ifyou're getting into the industry
, to go see what it's like, youmeet a lot of different people,
learn the systems, learn whatit's like being in the gym and
the things you have to do.
Um, basically, I did it to getpaid, to get education, so I
like to basically go study up,see how it was okay, what are
(03:55):
the things that they do?
And then I started craftingthings in my head.
What can I do better?
what can we do to make thiseasier?
They don't do this.
We can do this, and that's howwe set it off.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah did you, did you always want?
Was the intention always tolike start your own business,
like once you got into training?
Yeah, definitely yeah I'munemployable.
I say yeah, yeah, so I've beenthrough the corporate jobs back
in the day again.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Good sales training learned a lot of different
things.
I've been a Hertz car manager,stuff, a GNC store manager, so
the supplements I was trying toget back into the health and
fitness I was like, all right,let's do GNC.
Sitting in a store for 40 hoursa week Gets kind of boring,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So I learned a lot about supplements right.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Uh yeah, I was out at Eastlake that one was pretty
busy, okay and then rose to theranks and then I was like, hey,
can I transfer to Tarpon?
And then right now GNC as acompany is not doing that good,
so Vitamin Shop is kicking theirbutt.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But that's a whole different story.
But.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I learned a lot about supplements, all the funny
games that supplements play, theindustry plays.
They don't put enough dosagesof certain things, so I just got
to learn a lot and it helped mewith what I do now.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so let's talk about that a little bit.
What's your take on supplements?
Like, are they important?
Should we all be takingsupplements of some kind, or
does it depend on thatindividual?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I think everyone should be taking some type of
supplements, because if you'renot having the perfect diet,
we're not filling in thosenutritional gaps and we're going
to have deficiencies invitamins and minerals Other
things.
If we're working out, we wantto recover.
If you're too sore from yourayworkout going into the next day
or wednesday, you're not goingto push it as hard.
(05:47):
So then you start to getrelaxed and not push it and
that's not going to make thebody adapt and change quicker,
because now you're not pushingas hard because you're sore.
So I definitely think the triedand true ones creatine,
branched chain, amino acids,whey protein isolate um, I take
pre-workout.
Some people don't like caffeine.
(06:07):
You can go stimulant free, butbeta, alanine, taurine all these
things are going to increaseendurance, uh, bring up your
aerobic capacity, meaning thatwe can go a little bit harder, a
little longer, so we can get alittle bit more out of each
workout and improve yourperformance.
Different things will help youfocus.
So, um, yes, but the problemwith the industry is they'll put
(06:29):
the key things in there, butnot enough dosage of it to
actually give you the effect,because they're trying to save
money on the margin.
So they'll have all the keythings, but not enough.
So, like what would be anexample of that?
Uh, different pre-workout.
So, okay, they'll give you, youknow, creatine monohydrate.
The superior form is going tobe creatine HCL less bloating,
(06:51):
less watery tension.
Uh, less of it is going to get.
Uh, you need less of it to geta bigger effect.
Um, so back in the day I didmonohydrate, but you had to,
like, preload it for a few daysto get in your system, and now
they came out with HCL, which isway better than creatine
monohydrate.
But, getting back to whatyou're saying, they're just
(07:12):
putting the keywords on there,but they're not giving you
effective dosages of thesedifferent things.
So, like the whey proteins,there was protein spiking, where
they were tricking thedifferent companies checking
their products.
They were putting nitrogen init to spike up the protein
levels, and the muscle farm gotcaught for that Hundreds of
(07:34):
millions of dollars.
They got in a lawsuit over it.
They were tricking the customerhey, it's 25 grams of protein.
It really wasn't, though.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Not cool.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So I like to stick with companies that are going to
be no artificial dyes, noartificial sweeteners.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
If we're going to be taking this every day, we want
it to be healthy yeah, so that,and that was kind of like what
my you know, my, my thoughtbehind it is it's like yeah,
like what you know, how do youverify what's in it?
And I've seen that more oftennow, where it's like the third
party testing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes, like there's other right informed I think,
yes, yeah, like if you're, uh,someone that's a competitive
athlete, a ufc fighter orsomething like that, and they're
going to be testing you, youwant to make sure the
supplements you're putting inyour body are certified so you
don't get in trouble.
For I think doping they call it.
Yeah, sometimes people, uh,these top athletes, boxers they
(08:22):
are not paying attention andthey take something.
They go take their blood testsand if it comes up anything,
they'll disqualify them, likeRyan Garcia that was one that
came up.
Did he do it intentionally?
Did he not know who knows whoreally cares?
If you're going to be gettingtested, let's be smart.
Let's make sure what we'reputting on our body is tried,
proven, researched.
(08:42):
It's not some new thing thatcame out.
We want to make sure that thishas been studied, research and
proven to work yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So supplements are okay, definitely, and is can you
can some clean?
Supplements, clean supplementsyeah can someone have like the
perfect diet where they don'tneed supplements, or that's.
That's pretty challenging if ifyou're like working out,
exercising right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's.
It's just going to be reallyhard to get all those vitamins
and minerals in the perfect dietno one's got a perfect diet.
I don't have a perfect diet, andif you're really trying to go
after it and you're an athleteor you're really you're going to
bodybuilding show or you're arunner.
These, these things are goingto make a big difference in the
(09:33):
way you feel, the way yourecover and how you're going to
perform on your race day.
So I definitely, even if you'remy diet's pretty tip top, but
I'm still taking a good 150worth of supplements every month
, so I wouldn't keep taking itfor the over the last 15 years
if it didn't work and I wasn'tfeeling a difference and seeing
the gains.
What supplements do you are keyfor you.
Protein obviously right.
Yeah, protein, a clean one,right, we want to make sure.
I like to take something that'spure.
(09:55):
I don't want sucralose, I don'twant gargum and stuff, these
different things, emulsifiers toget the consistency right, the
taste.
I don't want artificialanything.
So now the brands are gettingbetter at that because they're
watching the market shift.
But, uh, so way, isolate apre-workout just gets me in the
(10:15):
zone, helps the pump.
This.
Uh, citrulline, it's going tolike release, open up the blood
veins.
So can think of it like a US 19traffic.
We're all blocked up when wetake citrulline.
It's going to clear like aus-19 traffic.
We're all blocked up when wetake citrulline.
It's going to clear the road foryou and we're going to get all
the nutrients of the musclesfaster so you can feel better
and perform better with yourreps.
Get more reps, um.
So what else?
(10:35):
Fish oil, probiotics, okay.
Multivitamin, joint health,post-workout recovery.
So amino acids, creatine,betaine, it's all in one powder.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
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Speaker 2 (11:49):
Go to right now that's clean.
Yeah, unmatched.
So it was.
It's Chris Gethin's company.
He was with Cage Muscle.
They had a falling out.
They wanted to change formulas.
Dirtier products, he said, said, forget it.
He launched his own company.
Yeah, and uh, it's calledunmatched.
So no artificial colors, dyes,no artificial sweeteners.
(12:11):
Tried and true uh.
Supplements are in there thathave been backed in research and
even newer ones that are comingout that are showing a lot of
promise that, uh, they're.
They're kind of the cuttingedge right now.
Yeah, so probably most peopleprobably haven't heard of them,
but they're in vitamin shop andI like Unmatch.
Their pre-workout's good, Ilike the protein, so it's a good
(12:34):
brand, definitely something tolook at and compare to, maybe
the brand that you're alreadytaking.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Like when you started training, what was it like?
Um, did you start with?
Like all the stuff you have now, you know, um, supplements and
the, the nutrition and all thatdid you?
Did you do that from from dayone or?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
so day one was basically probably some creatine
monohydrate.
I heard all right, this istried and proven for the last 50
years, try that.
Uh.
Then a whey protein.
It was probably whey proteinconcentrate.
That's a lesser form.
They say that it doesn't havethat big of a difference being
the pure isolate or theconcentrate, as long as you're
getting something in it's rapidabsorption, get into the body
(13:16):
quicker.
Like, uh, I told people they'relike, oh, I'll just eat a meal
after.
I'm like, yeah, you're going tohave a meal, but this protein
is going to get in yourbloodstream a lot quicker, lot
quicker.
It's going to start therecovery process faster than the
food which is going to takethree to six hours to digest.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So that's a lot longer process.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We want to get this going quick, so we want to
replenish that as well asglycogen carbohydrates.
So after the workout you'regoing to be depleted.
We want to get some carbs in.
There's different carb powdersyou can do.
They call it dextrose thesuperior form is going to be
cluster dextrin.
It doesn't spike the insulin soof your body, so it gives you a
(13:52):
better response.
We don't want to spike theinsulin too much because it will
make you store more body fat.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This is a superior form.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It's more expensive.
A lot of people aren't using itin the companies and stuff
because it's more money for themto make it.
They're sticking to what'scheapest.
So these are just little cleverthings, but for the most part I
would say just protein and uh,creatine was the beginning
phases, when I was a probably 15years old started yeah, yeah,
so and I think that's what II've been doing like creatine
(14:25):
daily, um, and then protein likeright up.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So when you have protein, like after a workout,
like you're done with theworkout, have a protein.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, right away.
Yeah, I mean they talk aboutthis anabolic window, I think.
As long as you get it in withinyou know hour, you're fine,
okay, yeah yeah, and then I sothe the um carbohydrate thing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I've been taking G1M sport like BPN supplements.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, I think they actually have cluster dextrin.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I know I'm familiar with them, so yeah, yeah,
they're using the better formulaas far as the carb source.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, it's going to replenish you better, um, and it
gives you like sustained energybetter.
So, like if for a run, thecluster dextrin shows is very
promising.
I've actually been researchingit a little heavy.
They showed they had like sevenswimmers use water at blind
test.
So water dextrose and thecluster dextrin.
(15:17):
The cluster dextrin showed 70%better results and the swimmers
didn't know, they didn't tellthem.
So that's huge Wow.
So I found out about that aboutmaybe 10 years ago and I use it
on my runs, um, when I'm reallylocked in for like a 5k coming
up and uh, it's a big differenceyeah, what about like, like,
(15:40):
like, working out?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
so I like to work out in the morning, like first
thing in the morning.
Are you eating?
I mean, especially if you'relike waking up and then jumping
into a workout, like basicallyas soon as you're up and dressed
and stuff.
Yeah, are you eating somethingbefore Should?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
you be eating something.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, Uh, can you?
So I've been taking like thelike the G1M sport Before Before
.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean it's at least it's giving you some
carbohydrates and whatelectrolytes do I think?
What electrolytes do I think?
So, yeah, yeah, um, so that'sgood.
At least you're getting somekind of form of energy to get
going, because I know a lot ofpeople in the morning they're
not prepared or they're nothungry.
Um, I think you'll feel better.
Um, like the owner of thecompany, you'll see, he, he's
(16:21):
access food in his truck and,yeah, he's, he's doing it and he
performs well, he's a goodrunner, yeah but yeah, I would
say I would want to eatsomething, definitely because
we're fasting through the night,we're sleeping, the body's
recovering, you didn't.
You can't eat while you sleepand unless you, you're special,
so when you wake up or fasted.
So we want to get some fuel inthe tank so we can go perform
(16:43):
better.
Now is it easy?
No, but I think as long asyou're getting something in like
it could be as easy as uh,depending on what we're doing
right, I'd say for weightliftingwe could do a protein shake and
a bagel and you're on your way.
Okay, some protein beforeprotein and carbs yeah, so we're
getting something and so wedon't have to cook eggs or
(17:03):
something.
Yeah, if I need a fast proteinshake bagel, let's roll.
Yeah, because the bagel isgoing to be a good 40 to 50
carbs.
We've got enough energy forthat part.
Get the protein in and you'redone so.
When clients tell me I don'thave time, okay, do this.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
This takes three minutes yeah, and if you tell me
you still don't have timebefore, you just don't want to
do this.
So there's.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I can pretty much get rid of everyone's excuses
because I've been doing this fora long time and give you
strategies to solve all theproblems, but really they're
excuses, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I heard someone .
We were talking to someonerecently and it was like you'll
find time if it's important toyou, Definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What's your priority?
What are you spending the mosttime on?
Look at that in your life andyou can start to really hone in
on someone and what they'rereally all about.
If you're always spending timeat the bar, okay, you know, so
it's.
I think that's self-awareness.
Some people like the.
I always tell people I want toput a camera on their head and
(18:01):
watch what they're doing, causethey say I've got no time.
I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy.
Time, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'mbusy.
I'm like okay, I don't know ifI believe you, because I got
three kids running the businessand running a business as you
know, is 24 7.
I'm getting all my workouts in.
I'm on 75 hard right now, sothat's two workouts a day.
That's a whole nother talk, butthere's time for it if you
(18:22):
really want to do it yeah, justcut all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, that's not important yeah, there's there's
time.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, how are we using our time?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's huge and I feel like that's something I try
to focus on often.
But so often it's too easy toget caught up in just being busy
and not being efficient withyour time and stuff, especially
when it's just you and you'reholding yourself accountable.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Would you say that people are like because it like
everyone.
Hey, how are you?
I'm just super busy, super busy.
It's like it's a competition orsomething like.
How busy someone is like, yeah,I'm just busy, I'm just super
busy, I'm like, no, you're justprobably inefficient yeah, I
think there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think I think some of that there's no reward for
how busy you are.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm trying trying to be effective and efficient.
Yeah, I don't care how busy youare.
Maybe you are.
I've met some clients that theyreally are super busy, but
there's somewhere in there theycould tighten up, and they know
that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Cause.
That's why they hired me.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And I think too, like some, like the, the mindset
around work and like you know,um, working hard and that sort
of stuff, like you know, that'staken to the extreme sometimes
and I think that's where thatcomes in, where people are like,
oh, I'm so busy and that's likea pride thing, like I have so
much to do and I have this busylife or whatever.
But you know, finding balancein life, I think that's been
(19:40):
like a more really since, likepost COVID, like that, that um,
like getting more sleep rightand I and like how important
sleep is for super importantyeah, and and finding balance in
work and life and all that kindof stuff, and people have kind
of like backed off the the busything.
But, um, yeah, I feel like thatwe all myself included like
(20:03):
there's always things you can doto be more efficient.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, and going back to kind of what you said about
balance, I don't know, there'snot really.
There's some balance, butthat's not going to be this
perfect balance of everythingevery day and it's different,
and it's different seasons yeah.
So, like right now, I'm goinghard right now and in a couple
months maybe it lightens up alittle bit, but I like to stay
busy because if I stay busy,stay out of, and I'm not talking
(20:29):
about any bad trouble, but,like I'm just want to be, I'm
very locked into my goals andI'm turning 37 coming up here in
a couple of days, so like timeis going quick.
I don't have time to sit andlet's go watch football games.
I stopped doing that 15 yearsago.
So like I don't know, I'm justafter it.
(20:50):
So balance, I don't know if Iwant balance, I'm just going
after it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
If someone wants balance, that's fine, and
everyone's different.
I'm just kind of like no, let'sgo.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, Do you have.
You, have you always kind ofbeen like that, Like?
Uh like focused and andintentional, or is that like
developed?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Starting running the business and stuff.
And then when I first did 75hard, uh, like four years ago,
the mindset changed.
It really will change you up.
If you haven't done 75 hard, ifyou don't know about it, look
it up, you can find it prettymuch anywhere.
But that changed a lot ofthings, my mindset.
I'm like, wow, I can get allthis done and be locked in for
75 days straight.
I can be a lot more productivethan I ever thought and that's
(21:36):
what it teaches you, I thinkbecause I'm getting all my other
stuff done, plus this too.
I'm like wow.
But I think people just tellthemselves the story that you
know I don't have time to workout I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, does it force you?
Is it like forcing you to beefficient or like intentional
with your time?
And because yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
yeah, definitely yeah like my calendar is just I'm
playing out everything.
All right clients, all right,business at the library.
We're gonna do email this likeeverything's listed out, and if
I do a list, I knock it out anduh, yeah, like today was back to
back to back to back, I'm likeall right, all right, it's
coming up.
We're gonna finish lines comingsoon for the day yeah and then
wake up, do it all over againyeah, do you.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Do you block out your calendar?
Uh, what do you mean?
Like, like you, you have time.
Like you, you block off everysingle thing you do for the day
yeah, even like all right, I'meating, I'm eating and I'm going
to read right here yeah, I'mgoing to be at the library for
three hours.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm going to work on emails, social media stuff, yep,
um, new business ideas,strategies, networking, like yes
, are you doing that the night?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
before or the week before the week before.
Yeah, like when we talked Isaid I'm like I don't go out
that far out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah.
So, like Sunday, I'll reach outto all the clients that that
scheduling up and pretty much myschedule is pretty routine
because a lot of people kind ofstay within the same times.
But yeah, it's like trainclients, right here we're going
to be at the library, here we'regoing to go there.
It's pretty same, but it's justI go hard.
I would say right now I'm 75hard, so it's every day.
There's no day off withworkouts, but sunday I don't
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have clients.
I'm taking the day off as faras the business stuff as well.
So six days a week, thoughlocked in pretty hard, but you
can get so much done, like justbecause it's the weekend,
everyone's oh, we should takeoff I'm like that's fine take,
but I'm going to be light yearsahead of you, you know.
(23:29):
Yeah so that's what I'm after,because soon I'll be 50, you
know.
And all of a sudden I'll belike, oh, I wish I would have
done more.
Yeah, because it's going to runout soon.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And who knows when we go?
Could be tonight.
Yeah, I I don't know.
Hopefully not, but I'm just Idon't know.
That's the perspective I'm at,and life's too short, so we got
to go.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yep, yep, get it done .
Yeah, accomplish what you wantto accomplish, right, we
might've already touched on this, right, but starting a business
like did you, is that, like asa kid, so before 15, before you
got into into any of that is isbeing a business owner.
Is that something you, youalways wanted to do?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Nope.
Uh, after I went to college, umkind of saw, oh, I'm going to
be on all the student debt anduh, want to do this.
I gotta listen to what they gotto be here now.
This is all you can make.
If I run my own business, I cankind of do things the way I
want.
I can make as much money as Ican produce.
(24:31):
I like controlling my owndestiny.
I don't like people puttinglimits on me and telling me this
is what you get, your 50, 60000 a year, this is it.
Oh, you get health care andyour 401k.
And I'm like I don't care aboutany of that because I'm like, if
I'm producing so much more,yeah, I can take care of what I
need to do yeah so no, Iwouldn't say, I would say after,
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so after 20 at like 20,probably about 24, everything
started shifting and the lastfive years has definitely been a
big shift and about the mindsetbeing productive go after it.
Go after your dreams.
Yeah, because, like when peopleare, when you're a little kid
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and you're like I want to bethis and everyone's that's
awesome, you can be that.
And then, as you grow up, I'mgonna going to be this Well,
let's be more realistic.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Because the anyone that you remember in history
went after it, and now we'retalking to them, 50 years, a
hundred years later, about alltheir accomplishments.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So they didn't listen to people that, yeah, I don't
listen to anyone.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm going to go, you can.
People used to tell me thatpersonal training is just a
hobby.
We silence them.
You know I make you do betterthan them.
So yeah, it's.
People say a lot of thingswhether you're broke, you're
rich, you're middle.
I used to get picked on forbeing a fat middle schooler.
Now I get picked on for beingtoo in shape.
So I just try to block it allout.
(25:57):
Stay focused, stay in my laneand, yeah, go after my goals and
don't let anyone stop me, evenfamily members.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But you know like, uh , my wife's on board with it.
Like I told her, I'm like ifyou're going to hinder me on
doing my goals, we're going tohave to exit.
Yeah, but she's on board, sowe're cool.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So going back to 20, uh, it wasn't 2024, but you're
24 years old.
Like that year, like what?
What happened in that year?
Like is there something likeyou read a book or anything that
like stood out to you, thatlike transitioned your mindset?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, uh.
So I was going to be a physicaltherapist assistant.
I got through all the firstyear.
On my last lab practical, uh,did not pass.
You're going to have to startall over and then you're going
to have to reapply.
I waited three years on awaiting list to get into the
program at SPC and I was like,well, what do you mean?
I got to start, you got toreapply and wait again.
(26:47):
Oh yeah, and, by the way, youneed to have like a 4.0 GPA now,
because the class coming inthis is the new requirements.
And then I started looking atwhat they're making and now some
of the kids that I was in classthey pass and I hear what
they're making.
And I'm like, sometimes I hearwhat they're making and I'm like
, thank God I didn't make it.
Yeah, because, yeah, let's justsay it's not enough to live.
There's no way.
And with inflation, the waythings are Right, it just would
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not be possible.
Three kids would be on thestreet, yeah, so I'm happy for
the failures.
I learned from my failures.
And school, I think, kind ofteaches a lot of people to be
scared of failure.
School, I think, kind ofteaches a lot of people to be
scared of failure.
I like to fail because I'mgoing to get better, I'm going
to learn from it and we're goingto hit success eventually.
Like baseball, we got to swingright.
(27:30):
You can't just sit and wait andwait and wait.
You got to swing, we got toswing and maybe we get a base
run here.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
But there's, one of them is going to be a home run,
so that's what we're going after.
Did you so the the, the mindsetaround failure, is that
something like you've always had, or or?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
no, I grew into it from reading.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't a bigreader in college.
I read what I had to to getthrough, memorize what I need to
.
But now I'm reading all thesedifferent entrepreneur books
about companies, um, marketingbooks, just a ton sales books.
Just learning, keep learning.
(28:08):
I think if you're not learning,you're dying.
I want to keep learning newskillsets.
Um, and that shifted my mindset.
And uh, what's been yourfavorite book so far?
Um, right now I'm currentlyreading shoe dog, the book about
phil knight starting nike.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That's a good one.
Yeah, you read it.
I listened to the audio.
Yeah, I highly recommendreading.
Yeah, yeah, that's one of therules actually with 75 hard you
you read your 10 pages a day.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's got to be read and I kind of agree with them,
because if I was listening inthe car with the way people
drive around here, yeah, I'm notgonna be, I do.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I do both, so like like shoe dog.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I think was like it's like more of a story format,
but it is right so I can.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I can do those ones on the audio, but most of the
other books it's like I likehaving the physical copy of the
book uh, another book, I wouldsay, outwitting the devil,
outwitting the devil.
Yeah, you gotta look that up,if you haven't that's.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's.
That's a good one.
Okay, and I would read it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Do you know who the author of that is?
I would read it Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm going to have to look it up.
It's very popular.
It was written in the 40s.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I feel like I've heard that before you probably
have.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It's a top one.
What's the other one?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
How to Inf friends and influence people.
I think.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yep, that's it.
So I've read.
With doing the 75 hours, whatgot me to start reading?
Really crazy.
And I was like, all right, letme got to do my reading and I
was like I kind of like this,yeah, and I haven't stopped.
Even when I'm off program I'mreading still, yeah, so, but
yeah, it's alwaysentrepreneurship, marketing,
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sales, mindset, stuff.
I just like it now and youlearn a lot from these different
books and I want to learn aboutthe successes of these people.
You know, yeah, so did, you didwe talk about traction before,
Like that's.
I haven't read that one yet.
Oh, another good one is E-Myth.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, that's right, good one.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Uh, for someone like me, I want to control everything
, and E-Myth teaches you thatyou're never going to grow your
brand and your company intoanything really big and massive
without letting go anddelegating and setting up people
so you can succeed.
I can't train all the people, Ican't do all the marketing, I
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can't do everything and I can'tdo everything.
And that book really put ittogether.
And then, as I'm reading, I'mlike, oh, it makes so much sense
, I get it, I get it.
I think you said tractionsimilar.
Yeah, so traction will give youlike the blueprint on on how to
do do all that.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
That one's on my list , I actually have a picture of
it on my phone to read yeah, sothat one will.
Um, you know it goes throughlike you know, just from the
beginning of the year, likesetting your goals, like what
are your, what are your um corevalues of your business, like,
so you break all that down, youkeep track of all that.
You have a five year plan,three year plan, one year plan,
Um, and then it breaks it downto like quarterly meetings,
(31:00):
weekly meetings, like what totalk about, how to structure the
meetings, like it goes intointo detail and all that stuff.
So it's a lot, but, um, if youcan like slowly implement it and
I mean it's, it's pretty prettycool Game changer for you, yeah
.
Yeah, yeah, so it's been.
It's kept me organized andfocused on um, just like what I
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want to accomplish, and and and.
It stays in front of you.
So it's, it's easy to um, it'seasy to keep track of.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah reading's huge for me now?
Yeah, never was, but it is forthe last five years now 75 hard,
so 75 hard you have to.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So two workouts a day yep, I'll go through it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Uh, so two workouts per day, 45 minutes each, one's
strength training inside andone's outside.
It's got to be outside, nomatter, no matter the weather
condition, right, if there's ahurricane tornado, you know it
is what it is yeah but uh, yeah.
So and then you got to take aprogress pick every day no cheat
meals, no alcohol, drink gallonof water a day.
(32:03):
Yep, that's a hard one for alot of people.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It's hard.
I've been so I have that gallonyeti and it's.
I mean I.
I started carrying that with menow because it just reminds me,
yeah, to drink more, but umthat's a big one for people.
That's a.
That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's a lot of water yeah, uh, but I feel way better.
Yeah, the weight drops and allthat.
It's not about losing weight.
This program is not aboutlosing weight.
Some people get that confusedand then people want to change
the program to make it easierfor them.
I'm like you're missing thewhole point yeah okay, that's
like someone coming into mybusiness and trying to change
what I'm telling them to do.
Then you can go ahead and leave, because it's not going to work
(32:37):
out.
Yeah so it.
If you do this for 75 daysstraight, it will change you for
sure.
Yeah, and?
And if you cheat yourself,you're only like if you cheat
and like, oh, no one knows, it'sjust me.
Yeah, I tried that before andthen, like a day later, I failed
anyway.
Yeah, so I missed the water orsomething.
I missed the progress pick likean idiot, but I bought their
little app, so I have achecklist okay, so I'm checking
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it off.
Boom, boom, boom, we did that.
That, that, oh yeah, you got tofollow a diet, so you're not
just eating clean.
You're following macros.
I do macro based.
I want to know exactly, uh,specifically, how much protein,
fats and carbs, um, that I needto eat each day, and I'm
tracking it and, yeah, you knowour app to get the results that
I'm looking for.
And when you do that track bymacros, you're gonna have a lot
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better success instead of just Ieat clean, like people, oh, I
eat clean.
Okay, let's talk about that.
What'd you eat for breakfast?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Okay, that's a bad start, yeah, so a lot of people
are always under eating, they'renot getting enough protein, and
they're always hungry andmunching for carbs because
they're not getting enoughprotein.
When they get on our diet thatwe will customize for you based
off your height, your weight,your activity, your goals, male
or female, you will definitely,uh, not be hungry.
Yeah, and even in a deficit,people will be like this is a
(33:53):
lot of food and I'm like justfollow me here, all right yeah,
it's gonna work.
yeah, all right, becauseeveryone wants to.
As soon as they sign out, theywant to start doing their own
thing.
I'm like no, this is not Stickwith it.
Stick with it.
You said you were going to fall, let's do it.
And it works if they stay withit.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
When I started tracking like most recently when
I was lifting and stuff Irealized my protein intake was
way low for the norm.
So what is for someone who'slike, okay, maybe I should start
tracking, or I want to seewhere I'm at, like what are, um,
(34:29):
what's like a baseline, likewhat people should be at?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
like I guess let's do macro wise because that's
probably the easiest rightproteins, fats, easy uh thing
would be.
So there's two different ways.
You could do it off your bodyweight or your lean body mass.
So that means taking off allthe fat off your body.
Like on my scale, like when weweigh people, I'll say your lean
body masses x, y and z, likemine right now is, I'm like a
buck 72, um, and then my leanbody mass is 148.
So you would base your proteinuh 1.2 grams per pound of lean
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body mass.
So that puts me at uh roughlyaround, I think, 170 something.
Uh, carbs is around the sameand the fat is 0.3 uh, the fat's
pretty low because this is adeficit plan, like to lose fat.
Um, it's definitely working.
I haven't been this lean in thelast five years, um, but
(35:18):
granted, I'm doing two workoutsa day it definitely helps get
you there, yeah but yeah, a goodstarting point.
I would say anywhere between onegram to 1.5, depending on how
hard are we working out.
Are we going three days a week,Casual gym goer?
It's going to be highlydependent on how hard are we
going.
What?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
are we looking to do?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
If you're just looking to get into it, pretty
easy math one gram per pound ofbody weight is going to be a
good place to start.
When you want to start honingin on a different thing and get
a little more sophisticated,hire me and I'll tell you
exactly what to do.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So, speaking of that, how can people get more
information about your program,what you do and that sort of
stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, so our website naturallydreamfitnesscom.
You can click the top link, geta free consultation.
We'll bring you in, show youkind of a test drive.
I call it come, take a testdrive, we'll go through a whole
body assessment.
A lot of trainers skip thatpart.
They're just going to try toshow you some savvy workout and
impress you with that.
I need to see where you're at,get a baseline where your core
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strength is lower body strengthstrength.
Can you do an overhead squattest without compensating stuff
like that?
I want to get a baseline so wecan then build the plan off of.
Where are we weak at, where arewe strong at?
So we can actually build a planthat's designed off you.
But on all social media it'snaturallydrivenfitnesscom.
We're on tiktok, instagram,facebook, youtube.
(36:40):
It's all naturally drivenfitness on all those we wanted
to keep.
We're on TikTok, instagram,facebook, youtube.
It's all naturally drivenfitness on all those.
We wanted to keep it, you know,aligned with all the different
platforms and not try to changeit up.
But yeah, that's the best wayto reach out is definitely go to
the website.
You'll fill out a health littleform.
We want to learn about whatyou're doing and then I want to
see if you're the right personto work with us, because
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everyone wants to lose weightbut there's only the select few
that are really going to do whatit takes to get to the goals.
And I don't have time to wasteand I don't want to diminish,
dilute my brand.
I call it because I get paid totransform people's lives.
I don't want to take people in.
I don't care how much moneythey're paying me.
I want people that are going tocome in, do what I'm going to
(37:24):
tell them, change their life,get the results.
And then they walk around andthey're a walking billboard for
me.
And that's how we get businessReferrals, word of mouth.
People see you change your lifeand they're like what did you
do?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And that's what we do .
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And they that's that's what we do, yeah, and
then they feel so much better atthe end of the day, right,
definitely.
A guy's only been with me twoweeks.
I've had a couple of new peoplesign up so he said, uh, feeling
better, my cognitive and thatwork.
I feel more focused and peoplejust think this is how I'm
supposed to feel, Like I'm justthis is I'm older, I'm older
yeah.
I'm turning 37 and I'm goingquick on my mile pace right now.
Like I'm turning 37 and I'mgoing quick on my mile pace
right now, I'm doing great, Ifeel great, you can feel better.
You're just Americans,unfortunately.
(38:08):
They're not exercising, theirmindset sucks and they're
polluting.
They're kind of poisoning theirbodies with alcohol and the
foods that they're eating andthen when they clean it all up,
they feel the big difference andthen they go.
It's like a light Whoa Lightbulb goes off.
Oh, yeah, I see, right, but toeach their own, right?
(38:31):
Yeah, you got to have theself-awareness to say I need to
change and take a step and reachout to a professional and get
the help, because you could doit all by yourself and research
it.
But I'm going to give you thequick path fast and we can get
you there so much quicker, um,so that's what I'm about is give
you I want to get you therequicker, it's faster, safer and
tell and basically put youthrough like a college course of
learning how all this workstogether.
(38:51):
And, uh, you don't got tofigure it all out on your own,
because there's too much crap onthe internet and it confuses
people yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I mean like just with nutrition alone, like that's.
You know, that's a whole notherconversation, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But we're just figuring it could be we might
have to come back keto carnivore.
Yeah, this, that low carb.
I like a balanced diet.
I don't want to cut out,because carbs aren't the problem
, it's the type of carbs, andpeople aren't exercising right
and even like the fitness stuffnow too, like there's so many
different like styles right likewhat's good for you, what's
what you know?
yeah, crossfit and bodybuildingand this, yeah, I like to.
(39:29):
It's got to be based off theclient's goals you know, like
when a client comes in, notevery workout is going to be the
same, yeah, and it shouldn't beyeah, exactly, everyone's
different and we don't have torun 10 miles a day and and do 2
000 burpees to lose weight.
I can show you a sustainableway that's going to keep you
healthy and not injury free iskey, as we get older and
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something that you enjoy.
If you hate doing what you'redoing, like a diet or the
workout, you're probably notgoing to stay on it long.
I'm going to teach you how todo it sustainably, forever
that's true.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
One of the um, um I think Marcus Philly is his name,
I think, if I said thatcorrectly like that's the
workout program that I've beenfollowing and he says on there,
like in the beginning, like you,like, when you're just starting
out, like don't, don't um, likeburn yourself out in those
those first few weeks orwhatever, like in those those
(40:26):
first few weeks or whatever,like leave more on the table all
the time, because then you'regoing to be, oh, I feel good,
and you're going to be excitedto come back and like, oh, I
want, I want more, I want more,I want more um.
So I think that's that's a keyof like and that's something
I've tried to adapt in myworkouts like being okay with,
like not completing the workout.
Right, because you know,sometimes like time constraints,
whatever, in the morning, or Iwake up a little bit late or
something happens don't try togo too hard.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Some people are I'm gonna go run three miles.
I'm like no you don't need to,yeah, and then they're really
sore and then they don't workout for the rest of the week
unfortunately these people.
They usually fall off yeah,yeah so yeah, just take it easy,
figure out your goals, and youdon't have to go as crazy as you
think to lose weight.
It's, it's really going to be.
What information are yougetting?
Is the information correct?
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Do we have the right foundation?
Yeah, um, I'm big on form, soit's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
I want to teach you the right way, and everything.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And then, uh, you tell me your goals and we'll get
you there.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
So I love it, man.
I appreciate being here.
Coming back for round two,we'll have to do it again.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
No problem, thank you .
Thank you so much for having me.
Welcome to Palm Harbor Local, where we bring you
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I'm your host, donnie Hathaway,and today we're joined by Nick
Nicholas, who's the owner andfounder of Naturally Driven
Fitness.
Now our show is all aboutcelebrating those who've put in
the sweat, overcome the hurdlesand still find time to give back
to the community.
If you want to be inspired byhow they got started, what keeps
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Let's go meet Nick.
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Newsletter atpalmharborlocalcom.
Let's go meet Nick.
Nick, welcome to the podcast.
All right, thanks so much forhaving me.
Round two.
So, like we were just jokingabout, we recorded a couple of
weeks ago I think three, threeweeks ago now, okay, and my
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batteries died died.
So I've since upgraded, pluggedeverything in.
We're good to go.
Greatly appreciate it.
Yeah, this will be the last one, but you can always we'll come
back.
Right, we can always do more.
But um, yes, sir, so naturallydriven fitness, that's the name
of your company.
What do you guys do?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
there.
So what we do is basically putall the things together that
someone needs to lose weight.
So we're putting your meal plantogether.
We're putting your workoutstogether accountability, habits,
recipes, everything thatsomeone needs to do to get in
shape, whether you're buildingmuscle, losing weight.
We're putting it all together,even supplements.
(01:43):
We've got meal prep providers.
So I wanted to solve all theproblems that an individual has
to go through when they're firststarting out lifting weights
and make it easier process CauseI realized personal training is
great, but when I was at gymsback in the day 10 years ago,
all we really did was theworkout.
But I realized there's so manyother problems that the person
(02:06):
has to go through to really getthe success that they're looking
through.
So we wanted to make it easier,solve all their problems for
them.
Uh, quick, easy plan.
Show up, do the work, wash andrepeat and get the result that
you desire.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
How long?
How long have you been intofitness yourself, and then how
long have you been training?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, I've been lifting for coming up on 23
years, so I started when uhgoing into high school at 14 for
football workouts got into itstarted seeing difference in my
body.
I wanted to get better for thesport.
That was the first kind ofobjective bigger, stronger.
Wanted to get better for thesport, that was the first kind
of objective bigger, stronger,faster.
Everyone's kind of heard that.
(02:47):
Um then, as far as training,been training now for uh, almost
nine years- okay we've been atour one location in palm harbor
off us 19 near clausterman therefor six and a half years now
okay, and how long have you had?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
how long have you had naturally driven fitness?
Has that been nine years or youstarted elsewhere?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Started that.
That's going to be about eightand a half years.
Okay, yep, I was an independentcontractor at a gym, uh, doing
that whole deal, but deep down Ialways wanted to run my own
show do my own thing, my ownmarketing, and took about two
years to build up the clientele.
Okay, this is working, let's goahead and go do it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Is that typically how trainers get started?
Is working at a gym, out of agym.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, yeah, definitely .
I think it's important, for ifyou're getting into the industry
, to go see what it's like, youmeet a lot of different people,
learn the systems, learn whatit's like being in the gym and
the things you have to do.
Um, basically, I did it to getpaid, to get education, so I
like to basically go study up,see how it was okay, what are
(03:55):
the things that they do?
And then I started craftingthings in my head.
What can I do better?
what can we do to make thiseasier?
They don't do this.
We can do this, and that's howwe set it off.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah did you, did you always want?
Was the intention always tolike start your own business,
like once you got into training?
Yeah, definitely yeah I'munemployable.
I say yeah, yeah, so I've beenthrough the corporate jobs back
in the day again.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Good sales training learned a lot of different
things.
I've been a Hertz car manager,stuff, a GNC store manager, so
the supplements I was trying toget back into the health and
fitness I was like, all right,let's do GNC.
Sitting in a store for 40 hoursa week Gets kind of boring,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So I learned a lot about supplements right.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Uh yeah, I was out at Eastlake that one was pretty
busy, okay and then rose to theranks and then I was like, hey,
can I transfer to Tarpon?
And then right now GNC as acompany is not doing that good,
so Vitamin Shop is kicking theirbutt.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But that's a whole different story.
But.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I learned a lot about supplements, all the funny
games that supplements play, theindustry plays.
They don't put enough dosagesof certain things, so I just got
to learn a lot and it helped mewith what I do now.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so let's talk about that a little bit.
What's your take on supplements?
Like, are they important?
Should we all be takingsupplements of some kind, or
does it depend on thatindividual?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I think everyone should be taking some type of
supplements, because if you'renot having the perfect diet,
we're not filling in thosenutritional gaps and we're going
to have deficiencies invitamins and minerals Other
things.
If we're working out, we wantto recover.
If you're too sore from yourayworkout going into the next day
or wednesday, you're not goingto push it as hard.
(05:47):
So then you start to getrelaxed and not push it and
that's not going to make thebody adapt and change quicker,
because now you're not pushingas hard because you're sore.
So I definitely think the triedand true ones creatine,
branched chain, amino acids,whey protein isolate um, I take
pre-workout.
Some people don't like caffeine.
(06:07):
You can go stimulant free, butbeta, alanine, taurine all these
things are going to increaseendurance, uh, bring up your
aerobic capacity, meaning thatwe can go a little bit harder, a
little longer, so we can get alittle bit more out of each
workout and improve yourperformance.
Different things will help youfocus.
So, um, yes, but the problemwith the industry is they'll put
(06:29):
the key things in there, butnot enough dosage of it to
actually give you the effect,because they're trying to save
money on the margin.
So they'll have all the keythings, but not enough.
So, like what would be anexample of that?
Uh, different pre-workout.
So, okay, they'll give you, youknow, creatine monohydrate.
The superior form is going tobe creatine HCL less bloating,
(06:51):
less watery tension.
Uh, less of it is going to get.
Uh, you need less of it to geta bigger effect.
Um, so back in the day I didmonohydrate, but you had to,
like, preload it for a few daysto get in your system, and now
they came out with HCL, which isway better than creatine
monohydrate.
But, getting back to whatyou're saying, they're just
(07:12):
putting the keywords on there,but they're not giving you
effective dosages of thesedifferent things.
So, like the whey proteins,there was protein spiking, where
they were tricking thedifferent companies checking
their products.
They were putting nitrogen init to spike up the protein
levels, and the muscle farm gotcaught for that Hundreds of
(07:34):
millions of dollars.
They got in a lawsuit over it.
They were tricking the customerhey, it's 25 grams of protein.
It really wasn't, though.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Not cool.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So I like to stick with companies that are going to
be no artificial dyes, noartificial sweeteners.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
If we're going to be taking this every day, we want
it to be healthy yeah, so that,and that was kind of like what
my you know, my, my thoughtbehind it is it's like yeah,
like what you know, how do youverify what's in it?
And I've seen that more oftennow, where it's like the third
party testing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes, like there's other right informed I think,
yes, yeah, like if you're, uh,someone that's a competitive
athlete, a ufc fighter orsomething like that, and they're
going to be testing you, youwant to make sure the
supplements you're putting inyour body are certified so you
don't get in trouble.
For I think doping they call it.
Yeah, sometimes people, uh,these top athletes, boxers they
(08:22):
are not paying attention andthey take something.
They go take their blood testsand if it comes up anything,
they'll disqualify them, likeRyan Garcia that was one that
came up.
Did he do it intentionally?
Did he not know who knows whoreally cares?
If you're going to be gettingtested, let's be smart.
Let's make sure what we'reputting on our body is tried,
proven, researched.
(08:42):
It's not some new thing thatcame out.
We want to make sure that thishas been studied, research and
proven to work yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So supplements are okay, definitely, and is can you
can some clean?
Supplements, clean supplementsyeah can someone have like the
perfect diet where they don'tneed supplements, or that's.
That's pretty challenging if ifyou're like working out,
exercising right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's.
It's just going to be reallyhard to get all those vitamins
and minerals in the perfect dietno one's got a perfect diet.
I don't have a perfect diet, andif you're really trying to go
after it and you're an athleteor you're really you're going to
bodybuilding show or you're arunner.
These, these things are goingto make a big difference in the
(09:33):
way you feel, the way yourecover and how you're going to
perform on your race day.
So I definitely, even if you'remy diet's pretty tip top, but
I'm still taking a good 150worth of supplements every month
, so I wouldn't keep taking itfor the over the last 15 years
if it didn't work and I wasn'tfeeling a difference and seeing
the gains.
What supplements do you are keyfor you.
Protein obviously right.
Yeah, protein, a clean one,right, we want to make sure.
I like to take something that'spure.
(09:55):
I don't want sucralose, I don'twant gargum and stuff, these
different things, emulsifiers toget the consistency right, the
taste.
I don't want artificialanything.
So now the brands are gettingbetter at that because they're
watching the market shift.
But, uh, so way, isolate apre-workout just gets me in the
(10:15):
zone, helps the pump.
This.
Uh, citrulline, it's going tolike release, open up the blood
veins.
So can think of it like a US 19traffic.
We're all blocked up when wetake citrulline.
It's going to clear like aus-19 traffic.
We're all blocked up when wetake citrulline.
It's going to clear the road foryou and we're going to get all
the nutrients of the musclesfaster so you can feel better
and perform better with yourreps.
Get more reps, um.
So what else?
(10:35):
Fish oil, probiotics, okay.
Multivitamin, joint health,post-workout recovery.
So amino acids, creatine,betaine, it's all in one powder.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
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Speaker 2 (11:49):
Go to right now that's clean.
Yeah, unmatched.
So it was.
It's Chris Gethin's company.
He was with Cage Muscle.
They had a falling out.
They wanted to change formulas.
Dirtier products, he said, said, forget it.
He launched his own company.
Yeah, and uh, it's calledunmatched.
So no artificial colors, dyes,no artificial sweeteners.
(12:11):
Tried and true uh.
Supplements are in there thathave been backed in research and
even newer ones that are comingout that are showing a lot of
promise that, uh, they're.
They're kind of the cuttingedge right now.
Yeah, so probably most peopleprobably haven't heard of them,
but they're in vitamin shop andI like Unmatch.
Their pre-workout's good, Ilike the protein, so it's a good
(12:34):
brand, definitely something tolook at and compare to, maybe
the brand that you're alreadytaking.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Like when you started training, what was it like?
Um, did you start with?
Like all the stuff you have now, you know, um, supplements and
the, the nutrition and all thatdid you?
Did you do that from from dayone or?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
so day one was basically probably some creatine
monohydrate.
I heard all right, this istried and proven for the last 50
years, try that.
Uh.
Then a whey protein.
It was probably whey proteinconcentrate.
That's a lesser form.
They say that it doesn't havethat big of a difference being
the pure isolate or theconcentrate, as long as you're
getting something in it's rapidabsorption, get into the body
(13:16):
quicker.
Like, uh, I told people they'relike, oh, I'll just eat a meal
after.
I'm like, yeah, you're going tohave a meal, but this protein
is going to get in yourbloodstream a lot quicker, lot
quicker.
It's going to start therecovery process faster than the
food which is going to takethree to six hours to digest.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So that's a lot longer process.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We want to get this going quick, so we want to
replenish that as well asglycogen carbohydrates.
So after the workout you'regoing to be depleted.
We want to get some carbs in.
There's different carb powdersyou can do.
They call it dextrose thesuperior form is going to be
cluster dextrin.
It doesn't spike the insulin soof your body, so it gives you a
(13:52):
better response.
We don't want to spike theinsulin too much because it will
make you store more body fat.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This is a superior form.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It's more expensive.
A lot of people aren't using itin the companies and stuff
because it's more money for themto make it.
They're sticking to what'scheapest.
So these are just little cleverthings, but for the most part I
would say just protein and uh,creatine was the beginning
phases, when I was a probably 15years old started yeah, yeah,
so and I think that's what II've been doing like creatine
(14:25):
daily, um, and then protein likeright up.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So when you have protein, like after a workout,
like you're done with theworkout, have a protein.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, right away.
Yeah, I mean they talk aboutthis anabolic window, I think.
As long as you get it in withinyou know hour, you're fine,
okay, yeah yeah, and then I sothe the um carbohydrate thing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I've been taking G1M sport like BPN supplements.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, I think they actually have cluster dextrin.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I know I'm familiar with them, so yeah, yeah,
they're using the better formulaas far as the carb source.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, it's going to replenish you better, um, and it
gives you like sustained energybetter.
So, like if for a run, thecluster dextrin shows is very
promising.
I've actually been researchingit a little heavy.
They showed they had like sevenswimmers use water at blind
test.
So water dextrose and thecluster dextrin.
(15:17):
The cluster dextrin showed 70%better results and the swimmers
didn't know, they didn't tellthem.
So that's huge Wow.
So I found out about that aboutmaybe 10 years ago and I use it
on my runs, um, when I'm reallylocked in for like a 5k coming
up and uh, it's a big differenceyeah, what about like, like,
(15:40):
like, working out?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
so I like to work out in the morning, like first
thing in the morning.
Are you eating?
I mean, especially if you'relike waking up and then jumping
into a workout, like basicallyas soon as you're up and dressed
and stuff.
Yeah, are you eating somethingbefore Should?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
you be eating something.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, Uh, can you?
So I've been taking like thelike the G1M sport Before Before
.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean it's at least it's giving you some
carbohydrates and whatelectrolytes do I think?
What electrolytes do I think?
So, yeah, yeah, um, so that'sgood.
At least you're getting somekind of form of energy to get
going, because I know a lot ofpeople in the morning they're
not prepared or they're nothungry.
Um, I think you'll feel better.
Um, like the owner of thecompany, you'll see, he, he's
(16:21):
access food in his truck and,yeah, he's, he's doing it and he
performs well, he's a goodrunner, yeah but yeah, I would
say I would want to eatsomething, definitely because
we're fasting through the night,we're sleeping, the body's
recovering, you didn't.
You can't eat while you sleepand unless you, you're special,
so when you wake up or fasted.
So we want to get some fuel inthe tank so we can go perform
(16:43):
better.
Now is it easy?
No, but I think as long asyou're getting something in like
it could be as easy as uh,depending on what we're doing
right, I'd say for weightliftingwe could do a protein shake and
a bagel and you're on your way.
Okay, some protein beforeprotein and carbs yeah, so we're
getting something and so wedon't have to cook eggs or
(17:03):
something.
Yeah, if I need a fast proteinshake bagel, let's roll.
Yeah, because the bagel isgoing to be a good 40 to 50
carbs.
We've got enough energy forthat part.
Get the protein in and you'redone so.
When clients tell me I don'thave time, okay, do this.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
This takes three minutes yeah, and if you tell me
you still don't have timebefore, you just don't want to
do this.
So there's.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I can pretty much get rid of everyone's excuses
because I've been doing this fora long time and give you
strategies to solve all theproblems, but really they're
excuses, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I heard someone .
We were talking to someonerecently and it was like you'll
find time if it's important toyou, Definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What's your priority?
What are you spending the mosttime on?
Look at that in your life andyou can start to really hone in
on someone and what they'rereally all about.
If you're always spending timeat the bar, okay, you know, so
it's.
I think that's self-awareness.
Some people like the.
I always tell people I want toput a camera on their head and
(18:01):
watch what they're doing, causethey say I've got no time.
I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy.
Time, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'mbusy.
I'm like okay, I don't know ifI believe you, because I got
three kids running the businessand running a business as you
know, is 24 7.
I'm getting all my workouts in.
I'm on 75 hard right now, sothat's two workouts a day.
That's a whole nother talk, butthere's time for it if you
(18:22):
really want to do it yeah, justcut all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, that's not important yeah, there's there's
time.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, how are we using our time?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's huge and I feel like that's something I try
to focus on often.
But so often it's too easy toget caught up in just being busy
and not being efficient withyour time and stuff, especially
when it's just you and you'reholding yourself accountable.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Would you say that people are like because it like
everyone.
Hey, how are you?
I'm just super busy, super busy.
It's like it's a competition orsomething like.
How busy someone is like, yeah,I'm just busy, I'm just super
busy, I'm like, no, you're justprobably inefficient yeah, I
think there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think I think some of that there's no reward for
how busy you are.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm trying trying to be effective and efficient.
Yeah, I don't care how busy youare.
Maybe you are.
I've met some clients that theyreally are super busy, but
there's somewhere in there theycould tighten up, and they know
that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Cause.
That's why they hired me.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And I think too, like some, like the, the mindset
around work and like you know,um, working hard and that sort
of stuff, like you know, that'staken to the extreme sometimes
and I think that's where thatcomes in, where people are like,
oh, I'm so busy and that's likea pride thing, like I have so
much to do and I have this busylife or whatever.
But you know, finding balancein life, I think that's been
(19:40):
like a more really since, likepost COVID, like that, that um,
like getting more sleep rightand I and like how important
sleep is for super importantyeah, and and finding balance in
work and life and all that kindof stuff, and people have kind
of like backed off the the busything.
But, um, yeah, I feel like thatwe all myself included like
(20:03):
there's always things you can doto be more efficient.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, and going back to kind of what you said about
balance, I don't know, there'snot really.
There's some balance, butthat's not going to be this
perfect balance of everythingevery day and it's different,
and it's different seasons yeah.
So, like right now, I'm goinghard right now and in a couple
months maybe it lightens up alittle bit, but I like to stay
busy because if I stay busy,stay out of, and I'm not talking
(20:29):
about any bad trouble, but,like I'm just want to be, I'm
very locked into my goals andI'm turning 37 coming up here in
a couple of days, so like timeis going quick.
I don't have time to sit andlet's go watch football games.
I stopped doing that 15 yearsago.
So like I don't know, I'm justafter it.
(20:50):
So balance, I don't know if Iwant balance, I'm just going
after it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
If someone wants balance, that's fine, and
everyone's different.
I'm just kind of like no, let'sgo.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, Do you have.
You, have you always kind ofbeen like that, Like?
Uh like focused and andintentional, or is that like
developed?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Starting running the business and stuff.
And then when I first did 75hard, uh, like four years ago,
the mindset changed.
It really will change you up.
If you haven't done 75 hard, ifyou don't know about it, look
it up, you can find it prettymuch anywhere.
But that changed a lot ofthings, my mindset.
I'm like, wow, I can get allthis done and be locked in for
75 days straight.
I can be a lot more productivethan I ever thought and that's
(21:36):
what it teaches you, I thinkbecause I'm getting all my other
stuff done, plus this too.
I'm like wow.
But I think people just tellthemselves the story that you
know I don't have time to workout I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, does it force you?
Is it like forcing you to beefficient or like intentional
with your time?
And because yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
yeah, definitely yeah like my calendar is just I'm
playing out everything.
All right clients, all right,business at the library.
We're gonna do email this likeeverything's listed out, and if
I do a list, I knock it out anduh, yeah, like today was back to
back to back to back, I'm likeall right, all right, it's
coming up.
We're gonna finish lines comingsoon for the day yeah and then
wake up, do it all over againyeah, do you.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Do you block out your calendar?
Uh, what do you mean?
Like, like you, you have time.
Like you, you block off everysingle thing you do for the day
yeah, even like all right, I'meating, I'm eating and I'm going
to read right here yeah, I'mgoing to be at the library for
three hours.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm going to work on emails, social media stuff, yep,
um, new business ideas,strategies, networking, like yes
, are you doing that the night?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
before or the week before the week before.
Yeah, like when we talked Isaid I'm like I don't go out
that far out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah.
So, like Sunday, I'll reach outto all the clients that that
scheduling up and pretty much myschedule is pretty routine
because a lot of people kind ofstay within the same times.
But yeah, it's like trainclients, right here we're going
to be at the library, here we'regoing to go there.
It's pretty same, but it's justI go hard.
I would say right now I'm 75hard, so it's every day.
There's no day off withworkouts, but sunday I don't
(23:09):
have clients.
I'm taking the day off as faras the business stuff as well.
So six days a week, thoughlocked in pretty hard, but you
can get so much done, like justbecause it's the weekend,
everyone's oh, we should takeoff I'm like that's fine take,
but I'm going to be light yearsahead of you, you know.
(23:29):
Yeah so that's what I'm after,because soon I'll be 50, you
know.
And all of a sudden I'll belike, oh, I wish I would have
done more.
Yeah, because it's going to runout soon.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And who knows when we go?
Could be tonight.
Yeah, I I don't know.
Hopefully not, but I'm just Idon't know.
That's the perspective I'm at,and life's too short, so we got
to go.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yep, yep, get it done .
Yeah, accomplish what you wantto accomplish, right, we
might've already touched on this, right, but starting a business
like did you, is that, like asa kid, so before 15, before you
got into into any of that is isbeing a business owner.
Is that something you, youalways wanted to do?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Nope.
Uh, after I went to college, umkind of saw, oh, I'm going to
be on all the student debt anduh, want to do this.
I gotta listen to what they gotto be here now.
This is all you can make.
If I run my own business, I cankind of do things the way I
want.
I can make as much money as Ican produce.
(24:31):
I like controlling my owndestiny.
I don't like people puttinglimits on me and telling me this
is what you get, your 50, 60000 a year, this is it.
Oh, you get health care andyour 401k.
And I'm like I don't care aboutany of that because I'm like, if
I'm producing so much more,yeah, I can take care of what I
need to do yeah so no, Iwouldn't say, I would say after,
(24:53):
so after 20 at like 20,probably about 24, everything
started shifting and the lastfive years has definitely been a
big shift and about the mindsetbeing productive go after it.
Go after your dreams.
Yeah, because, like when peopleare, when you're a little kid
(25:14):
and you're like I want to bethis and everyone's that's
awesome, you can be that.
And then, as you grow up, I'mgonna going to be this Well,
let's be more realistic.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Because the anyone that you remember in history
went after it, and now we'retalking to them, 50 years, a
hundred years later, about alltheir accomplishments.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So they didn't listen to people that, yeah, I don't
listen to anyone.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm going to go, you can.
People used to tell me thatpersonal training is just a
hobby.
We silence them.
You know I make you do betterthan them.
So yeah, it's.
People say a lot of thingswhether you're broke, you're
rich, you're middle.
I used to get picked on forbeing a fat middle schooler.
Now I get picked on for beingtoo in shape.
So I just try to block it allout.
(25:57):
Stay focused, stay in my laneand, yeah, go after my goals and
don't let anyone stop me, evenfamily members.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But you know like, uh , my wife's on board with it.
Like I told her, I'm like ifyou're going to hinder me on
doing my goals, we're going tohave to exit.
Yeah, but she's on board, sowe're cool.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So going back to 20, uh, it wasn't 2024, but you're
24 years old.
Like that year, like what?
What happened in that year?
Like is there something likeyou read a book or anything that
like stood out to you, thatlike transitioned your mindset?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, uh.
So I was going to be a physicaltherapist assistant.
I got through all the firstyear.
On my last lab practical, uh,did not pass.
You're going to have to startall over and then you're going
to have to reapply.
I waited three years on awaiting list to get into the
program at SPC and I was like,well, what do you mean?
I got to start, you got toreapply and wait again.
(26:47):
Oh yeah, and, by the way, youneed to have like a 4.0 GPA now,
because the class coming inthis is the new requirements.
And then I started looking atwhat they're making and now some
of the kids that I was in classthey pass and I hear what
they're making.
And I'm like, sometimes I hearwhat they're making and I'm like
, thank God I didn't make it.
Yeah, because, yeah, let's justsay it's not enough to live.
There's no way.
And with inflation, the waythings are Right, it just would
(27:10):
not be possible.
Three kids would be on thestreet, yeah, so I'm happy for
the failures.
I learned from my failures.
And school, I think, kind ofteaches a lot of people to be
scared of failure.
School, I think, kind ofteaches a lot of people to be
scared of failure.
I like to fail because I'mgoing to get better, I'm going
to learn from it and we're goingto hit success eventually.
Like baseball, we got to swingright.
(27:30):
You can't just sit and wait andwait and wait.
You got to swing, we got toswing and maybe we get a base
run here.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
But there's, one of them is going to be a home run,
so that's what we're going after.
Did you so the the, the mindsetaround failure, is that
something like you've always had, or or?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
no, I grew into it from reading.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't a bigreader in college.
I read what I had to to getthrough, memorize what I need to
.
But now I'm reading all thesedifferent entrepreneur books
about companies, um, marketingbooks, just a ton sales books.
Just learning, keep learning.
(28:08):
I think if you're not learning,you're dying.
I want to keep learning newskillsets.
Um, and that shifted my mindset.
And uh, what's been yourfavorite book so far?
Um, right now I'm currentlyreading shoe dog, the book about
phil knight starting nike.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That's a good one.
Yeah, you read it.
I listened to the audio.
Yeah, I highly recommendreading.
Yeah, yeah, that's one of therules actually with 75 hard you
you read your 10 pages a day.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's got to be read and I kind of agree with them,
because if I was listening inthe car with the way people
drive around here, yeah, I'm notgonna be, I do.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I do both, so like like shoe dog.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I think was like it's like more of a story format,
but it is right so I can.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I can do those ones on the audio, but most of the
other books it's like I likehaving the physical copy of the
book uh, another book, I wouldsay, outwitting the devil,
outwitting the devil.
Yeah, you gotta look that up,if you haven't that's.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's.
That's a good one.
Okay, and I would read it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Do you know who the author of that is?
I would read it Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm going to have to look it up.
It's very popular.
It was written in the 40s.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I feel like I've heard that before you probably
have.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It's a top one.
What's the other one?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
How to Inf friends and influence people.
I think.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yep, that's it.
So I've read.
With doing the 75 hours, whatgot me to start reading?
Really crazy.
And I was like, all right, letme got to do my reading and I
was like I kind of like this,yeah, and I haven't stopped.
Even when I'm off program I'mreading still, yeah, so, but
yeah, it's alwaysentrepreneurship, marketing,
(29:44):
sales, mindset, stuff.
I just like it now and youlearn a lot from these different
books and I want to learn aboutthe successes of these people.
You know, yeah, so did, you didwe talk about traction before,
Like that's.
I haven't read that one yet.
Oh, another good one is E-Myth.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, that's right, good one.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Uh, for someone like me, I want to control everything
, and E-Myth teaches you thatyou're never going to grow your
brand and your company intoanything really big and massive
without letting go anddelegating and setting up people
so you can succeed.
I can't train all the people, Ican't do all the marketing, I
(30:21):
can't do everything and I can'tdo everything.
And that book really put ittogether.
And then, as I'm reading, I'mlike, oh, it makes so much sense
, I get it, I get it.
I think you said tractionsimilar.
Yeah, so traction will give youlike the blueprint on on how to
do do all that.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
That one's on my list , I actually have a picture of
it on my phone to read yeah, sothat one will.
Um, you know it goes throughlike you know, just from the
beginning of the year, likesetting your goals, like what
are your, what are your um corevalues of your business, like,
so you break all that down, youkeep track of all that.
You have a five year plan,three year plan, one year plan,
Um, and then it breaks it downto like quarterly meetings,
(31:00):
weekly meetings, like what totalk about, how to structure the
meetings, like it goes intointo detail and all that stuff.
So it's a lot, but, um, if youcan like slowly implement it and
I mean it's, it's pretty prettycool Game changer for you, yeah
.
Yeah, yeah, so it's been.
It's kept me organized andfocused on um, just like what I
(31:22):
want to accomplish, and and and.
It stays in front of you.
So it's, it's easy to um, it'seasy to keep track of.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah reading's huge for me now?
Yeah, never was, but it is forthe last five years now 75 hard,
so 75 hard you have to.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So two workouts a day yep, I'll go through it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Uh, so two workouts per day, 45 minutes each, one's
strength training inside andone's outside.
It's got to be outside, nomatter, no matter the weather
condition, right, if there's ahurricane tornado, you know it
is what it is yeah but uh, yeah.
So and then you got to take aprogress pick every day no cheat
meals, no alcohol, drink gallonof water a day.
(32:03):
Yep, that's a hard one for alot of people.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It's hard.
I've been so I have that gallonyeti and it's.
I mean I.
I started carrying that with menow because it just reminds me,
yeah, to drink more, but umthat's a big one for people.
That's a.
That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's a lot of water yeah, uh, but I feel way better.
Yeah, the weight drops and allthat.
It's not about losing weight.
This program is not aboutlosing weight.
Some people get that confusedand then people want to change
the program to make it easierfor them.
I'm like you're missing thewhole point yeah okay, that's
like someone coming into mybusiness and trying to change
what I'm telling them to do.
Then you can go ahead and leave, because it's not going to work
(32:37):
out.
Yeah so it.
If you do this for 75 daysstraight, it will change you for
sure.
Yeah, and?
And if you cheat yourself,you're only like if you cheat
and like, oh, no one knows, it'sjust me.
Yeah, I tried that before andthen, like a day later, I failed
anyway.
Yeah, so I missed the water orsomething.
I missed the progress pick likean idiot, but I bought their
little app, so I have achecklist okay, so I'm checking
(32:59):
it off.
Boom, boom, boom, we did that.
That, that, oh yeah, you got tofollow a diet, so you're not
just eating clean.
You're following macros.
I do macro based.
I want to know exactly, uh,specifically, how much protein,
fats and carbs, um, that I needto eat each day, and I'm
tracking it and, yeah, you knowour app to get the results that
I'm looking for.
And when you do that track bymacros, you're gonna have a lot
(33:22):
better success instead of just Ieat clean, like people, oh, I
eat clean.
Okay, let's talk about that.
What'd you eat for breakfast?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Okay, that's a bad start, yeah, so a lot of people
are always under eating, they'renot getting enough protein, and
they're always hungry andmunching for carbs because
they're not getting enoughprotein.
When they get on our diet thatwe will customize for you based
off your height, your weight,your activity, your goals, male
or female, you will definitely,uh, not be hungry.
Yeah, and even in a deficit,people will be like this is a
(33:53):
lot of food and I'm like justfollow me here, all right yeah,
it's gonna work.
yeah, all right, becauseeveryone wants to.
As soon as they sign out, theywant to start doing their own
thing.
I'm like no, this is not Stickwith it.
Stick with it.
You said you were going to fall, let's do it.
And it works if they stay withit.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
When I started tracking like most recently when
I was lifting and stuff Irealized my protein intake was
way low for the norm.
So what is for someone who'slike, okay, maybe I should start
tracking, or I want to seewhere I'm at, like what are, um,
(34:29):
what's like a baseline, likewhat people should be at?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
like I guess let's do macro wise because that's
probably the easiest rightproteins, fats, easy uh thing
would be.
So there's two different ways.
You could do it off your bodyweight or your lean body mass.
So that means taking off allthe fat off your body.
Like on my scale, like when weweigh people, I'll say your lean
body masses x, y and z, likemine right now is, I'm like a
buck 72, um, and then my leanbody mass is 148.
So you would base your proteinuh 1.2 grams per pound of lean
(34:55):
body mass.
So that puts me at uh roughlyaround, I think, 170 something.
Uh, carbs is around the sameand the fat is 0.3 uh, the fat's
pretty low because this is adeficit plan, like to lose fat.
Um, it's definitely working.
I haven't been this lean in thelast five years, um, but
(35:18):
granted, I'm doing two workoutsa day it definitely helps get
you there, yeah but yeah, a goodstarting point.
I would say anywhere between onegram to 1.5, depending on how
hard are we working out.
Are we going three days a week,Casual gym goer?
It's going to be highlydependent on how hard are we
going.
What?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
are we looking to do?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
If you're just looking to get into it, pretty
easy math one gram per pound ofbody weight is going to be a
good place to start.
When you want to start honingin on a different thing and get
a little more sophisticated,hire me and I'll tell you
exactly what to do.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So, speaking of that, how can people get more
information about your program,what you do and that sort of
stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, so our website naturallydreamfitnesscom.
You can click the top link, geta free consultation.
We'll bring you in, show youkind of a test drive.
I call it come, take a testdrive, we'll go through a whole
body assessment.
A lot of trainers skip thatpart.
They're just going to try toshow you some savvy workout and
impress you with that.
I need to see where you're at,get a baseline where your core
(36:19):
strength is lower body strengthstrength.
Can you do an overhead squattest without compensating stuff
like that?
I want to get a baseline so wecan then build the plan off of.
Where are we weak at, where arewe strong at?
So we can actually build a planthat's designed off you.
But on all social media it'snaturallydrivenfitnesscom.
We're on tiktok, instagram,facebook, youtube.
(36:40):
It's all naturally drivenfitness on all those we wanted
to keep.
We're on TikTok, instagram,facebook, youtube.
It's all naturally drivenfitness on all those.
We wanted to keep it, you know,aligned with all the different
platforms and not try to changeit up.
But yeah, that's the best wayto reach out is definitely go to
the website.
You'll fill out a health littleform.
We want to learn about whatyou're doing and then I want to
see if you're the right personto work with us, because
(37:02):
everyone wants to lose weightbut there's only the select few
that are really going to do whatit takes to get to the goals.
And I don't have time to wasteand I don't want to diminish,
dilute my brand.
I call it because I get paid totransform people's lives.
I don't want to take people in.
I don't care how much moneythey're paying me.
I want people that are going tocome in, do what I'm going to
(37:24):
tell them, change their life,get the results.
And then they walk around andthey're a walking billboard for
me.
And that's how we get businessReferrals, word of mouth.
People see you change your lifeand they're like what did you
do?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And that's what we do .
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And they that's that's what we do, yeah, and
then they feel so much better atthe end of the day, right,
definitely.
A guy's only been with me twoweeks.
I've had a couple of new peoplesign up so he said, uh, feeling
better, my cognitive and thatwork.
I feel more focused and peoplejust think this is how I'm
supposed to feel, Like I'm justthis is I'm older, I'm older
yeah.
I'm turning 37 and I'm goingquick on my mile pace right now.
Like I'm turning 37 and I'mgoing quick on my mile pace
right now, I'm doing great, Ifeel great, you can feel better.
You're just Americans,unfortunately.
(38:08):
They're not exercising, theirmindset sucks and they're
polluting.
They're kind of poisoning theirbodies with alcohol and the
foods that they're eating andthen when they clean it all up,
they feel the big difference andthen they go.
It's like a light Whoa Lightbulb goes off.
Oh, yeah, I see, right, but toeach their own, right?
(38:31):
Yeah, you got to have theself-awareness to say I need to
change and take a step and reachout to a professional and get
the help, because you could doit all by yourself and research
it.
But I'm going to give you thequick path fast and we can get
you there so much quicker, um,so that's what I'm about is give
you I want to get you therequicker, it's faster, safer and
tell and basically put youthrough like a college course of
learning how all this workstogether.
(38:51):
And, uh, you don't got tofigure it all out on your own,
because there's too much crap onthe internet and it confuses
people yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I mean like just with nutrition alone, like that's.
You know, that's a whole notherconversation, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But we're just figuring it could be we might
have to come back keto carnivore.
Yeah, this, that low carb.
I like a balanced diet.
I don't want to cut out,because carbs aren't the problem
, it's the type of carbs, andpeople aren't exercising right
and even like the fitness stuffnow too, like there's so many
different like styles right likewhat's good for you, what's
what you know?
yeah, crossfit and bodybuildingand this, yeah, I like to.
(39:29):
It's got to be based off theclient's goals you know, like
when a client comes in, notevery workout is going to be the
same, yeah, and it shouldn't beyeah, exactly, everyone's
different and we don't have torun 10 miles a day and and do 2
000 burpees to lose weight.
I can show you a sustainableway that's going to keep you
healthy and not injury free iskey, as we get older and
(39:50):
something that you enjoy.
If you hate doing what you'redoing, like a diet or the
workout, you're probably notgoing to stay on it long.
I'm going to teach you how todo it sustainably, forever
that's true.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
One of the um, um I think Marcus Philly is his name,
I think, if I said thatcorrectly like that's the
workout program that I've beenfollowing and he says on there,
like in the beginning, like you,like, when you're just starting
out, like don't, don't um, likeburn yourself out in those
those first few weeks orwhatever, like in those those
(40:26):
first few weeks or whatever,like leave more on the table all
the time, because then you'regoing to be, oh, I feel good,
and you're going to be excitedto come back and like, oh, I
want, I want more, I want more,I want more um.
So I think that's that's a keyof like and that's something
I've tried to adapt in myworkouts like being okay with,
like not completing the workout.
Right, because you know,sometimes like time constraints,
whatever, in the morning, or Iwake up a little bit late or
something happens don't try togo too hard.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Some people are I'm gonna go run three miles.
I'm like no you don't need to,yeah, and then they're really
sore and then they don't workout for the rest of the week
unfortunately these people.
They usually fall off yeah,yeah so yeah, just take it easy,
figure out your goals, and youdon't have to go as crazy as you
think to lose weight.
It's, it's really going to be.
What information are yougetting?
Is the information correct?
(41:03):
Do we have the right foundation?
Yeah, um, I'm big on form, soit's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
I want to teach you the right way, and everything.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And then, uh, you tell me your goals and we'll get
you there.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
So I love it, man.
I appreciate being here.
Coming back for round two,we'll have to do it again.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
No problem, thank you .
Thank you so much for having me.
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