August 30, 2023 • 36 mins
Ever felt the weight of the world on your shoulders, and longed for someone to share in your journey? We've all been there, and that's exactly why I, Lisa, and my co-host April, decided to get real and personal about our battles with stress and burnout. We share our experiences with stepping out of our comfort zones and learning to appreciate the small moments of peace in our daily lives. We also discuss the importance of being present, understanding our individual needs, and the impact of having someone in our lives who challenges us and keeps us honest.
Have you ever considered how your weekend plans could be a tool for finding balance in your life? April and I delve into how we utilize our free time for reflection and exploration of our emotions. We also discuss the importance of vacations, and I share my exciting 'Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls' roadmap adventure. But our conversation doesn't stop at just vacations, we also tackle the enigmatic Mercury Retrograde. From disrupting our communication and travel plans to meddling with our sleep patterns, we share our insights on how to navigate these tumultuous times, with a unique perspective on how homeopathy can help with sleep issues.
As we wrap up our friendly chat, we delve into our personal strategies for dealing with stress, and how we find restorative moments in our daily lives. Highlighting the significance of stepping out of our comfort zones, we share how running and walking serve as our go-to stress busters. Finally, we leave you with a few words of encouragement to make an impact in your lives and be your true selves. Tune in for an enlightening conversation as we navigate the complexities of life, one day at a time. Trust us, you won't want to miss this.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Paradigm.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
New Podcast.
Hello, this is Lisa Sainowski,co-host of the Paradigm New
Podcast, and in this week'sepisode I get April to step way
outside of her comfort zone, andin doing so, we have a whole
lot of fun banter and takeawayswaiting for you.
So go ahead and pull up a chair, sit down with us and enjoy our
(00:23):
friendly banter as you get toequally explore what's coming up
for you in your life.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You're listening to the Paradigm New Podcast.
You're about to starttransforming your life by
growing your mind and expandingyour paradigms.
Here we'll cover real lifetopics, just like the stuff
you'd share with a good friend.
This podcast will serve uptopics that weigh on our hearts
and keep us up at night, Whetherit's navigating parenthood and
becoming an adult, or wayfinding, personal development, marriage
and money.
You, my friend, are in theright place.
(00:51):
I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Okay, we are back for another weekly podcast.
Welcome to the Paradigm NewPodcast.
Today you get to hear from Lisaand I, and we are going to do
something that is totally out ofmy comfort zone.
We're going to let Lisa takethe lead on this one.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I wish y'all could have saw her face when I even
brought up this idea of thispodcast today.
First of all, it is so great tobe back with you, apes.
So today's outside April'scomfort zone is simply a
conversation amongst friends.
It's going to be great.
We get caught up in the hustleand bustle of life as moms as
the beginning of the school yearis upon us, the stress and the
(01:33):
inevitable burnout can be real.
So we thought, especially afterthe launch of the first podcast,
we've been getting a lot ofquestions about our relationship
and what we do every day or howwe talk.
It was.
I got some really fun questionsand I thought okay, well,
pretend that you're sitting downat this table with us and we're
just going to chat.
(01:53):
We're just going to have afriendly chat.
And this is so outside ofApril's comfort zone, because
April is a massive achiever anda massive doer.
So learning how to undo andsimply be, which is part of all
of our journeys, of course, butApril's next level, with doing
y'all.
You didn't know that yet and Idon't know what that look is oh
(02:17):
yeah, I'm totally sweating.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Oh good, Okay great, my back is going, neck is hot.
Maybe it's hormones, maybe it'sjust the discomfort, but yes,
I've actually gotten thismessage a couple times this week
.
I've gotten the hint that Ineed to just be present and just
chill and actually enjoy lifeinstead of constantly being in
(02:40):
the doing and I tend to be adoer, as Lisa said.
Interestingly, when Lisa saidwe should have a conversation
and riff back and forth andallow people to get to know us,
I was like what, what, what,what should I say?
But I will say this one thingand then I will at least take
(03:00):
the lead, because this is out ofmy comfort zone.
I went to a yoga class earlierthis week and I walked away from
that class just angry.
I was so upset and just sofeeling lost that I asked the
instructor after class if shecould call me, and so she called
me later that day and she'slike what's going on?
(03:22):
And I obviously she knowsnothing about what she's walking
into.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
And I said I know, right.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You don't know what you're going to talk with April
about most days if you talk tome.
But I said you know I went toclass and I felt really lost in
my yoga practice lately becauseI have had a shoulder injury and
when I go to a lot of myfavorite classes that used to be
in the past I can't do some ofthe things because I can feel
the pain and I know that Ishouldn't push, but I tend to
(03:52):
just want to overdo and justkeep pushing, even though it's
painful and I'm feeling lost inmy yoga practice.
But equally, I know that yoga iswhat gets me centered and takes
good care of me.
And she said April, you are ago-getter in every area of life.
I've watched you in yoga foryears and anytime I give a
(04:12):
modification like try this, youwill fall flat on your face just
trying it.
And she's like but when whatyour practice is right now is to
allow yourself to not have todo and just be, she's like just
breathe and just be present andto listen to whatever it is that
you need, because what I needis different than the person
(04:35):
next to me on a different mat.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You guys, I started like getting choked up and I
just was like celebrating the,the reality that she's spot on,
but also like I should haveknown that because I'm a
go-getter.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Did you then go home to like make yourself a whole
strategy and list of all thethings to not do?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, I just I decided to just bask in it and be
grateful that I had a yogainstructor who was willing to be
that honest and just speak fromthe, the cuff you know just
this is what her observationsare.
And then I decided the next dayto go to another yoga class
with somebody different and tojust have that in the back of my
head and I had permacrylatethat entire next class because I
(05:17):
decided to just be in themoment and just to be really,
really happy.
Wow, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, that's huge for you, congratulations, thank you
.
You said something you saidactually reminds me a lot of our
relationship and friendship,because, first of all, that yoga
instructor high fives to her.
I just I want to hug her.
That's sage advice andradically intuitive.
But also being willing to bethe voice of challenge in
(05:47):
someone's life, man, that's aninteresting role, because I'm
here to tell you and I'm sureyou've experienced this too but
a lot of people don't want to bechallenged, they just want
their worldview, they want tocomplain, they want to stay in
their circumstance, they wanttheir shoulder to keep hurting
but to still do every singleyoga pose.
And so you've always challengedme, you always asked me
(06:11):
questions and made me actuallyponder and think.
In fact, part of the impetusfor our conversation today was
because, even just on our lastpodcast episode, I learned
something about you and Ithought we have these deep, very
deep conversations constantlyas friends and there's still so
much I don't know.
Bam.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, that's the cool part, right, you get to peel
back different parts of thelayer of the onion Seriously,
and I think if you're willing toask the hard questions and go
deep with somebody, then you canlearn a lot of things.
But sometimes that means thatwe're missing the basic stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Ooh for sure, like hydration Do we got a timer
coming up April, oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
But let's just, you guys can't see this, but I'm
going to show Lisa that's fair.
I got my version of that energydrink.
Yeah, I have from anybody whoknows me really well that one of
my biggest hurdles is gettingoff of caffeine and I live on
energy drinks.
And I embraced energy drinks acouple of years ago when I gave
up soda because I said it was ahabit and addiction.
(07:16):
It was huge.
I was consuming a lot of sugarbut interestingly, I just
swapped it out with energydrinks and I told myself that's
better.
I don't think it's actuallybetter, but if you say I don't,
want to talk about energy soda.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
There you go, there you go, one step at a time.
Next up is going to be like thehealthy, healthiest biohacking
versions of energy drinks.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, Lisa gets me into those sometimes.
If you want biohacking advice,that would be Lisa.
If you want to talk to somebodyabout habits that burn you out,
talk to April.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, yes, I think we both are good at both.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I'm sure, yeah, so Lisa wanted to introduce
listeners to both of us in ourrelationships.
So, lisa, what would you liketo talk about today?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh, what I like to talk about today.
I have an empty house.
I have no husband and no kidsin my house for the entire
weekend.
Do you know how rare?
I don't know if this I'm trying, I'm literally racking my brain
.
I don't know if this has everhappened before, maybe once
before.
And so it's the quiet that youalways want, and then the quiet
(08:28):
that you also loathe as a mom.
I don't know about you, but I'mlike I just want some peace and
quiet.
And then the second the kidsare gone.
I'm like I just want to be withmy kid Yep.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
What is that?
We do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yes.
So no, it's been.
It's been great.
I'm learning a lot about myselfin the season of life, being in
a house alone, and what I'mchoosing to do and, most
importantly, what I'm choosingnot to do.
It's been very fun.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, you can't just leave us hanging.
What are you doing and what areyou not doing?
Because now I just want to be afly on the wall and be like
what's Lisa doing with all thisfree time?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right, I want to say I knocked out all these amazing
trainings and I've been doingyoga, I'm meditating and I want
to be able to say all that.
You know what I did?
I did some online home day coreshopping because I got a party
coming up for my son and I don'tknow about you, but before a
party I kind of go into, I wantto fix certain things in my
house mode or just upgrade themrather.
(09:26):
So I did that.
But then I did something that Iaffectionately refer to as
puttering just kind of walkaround my house and put things
away or reorganize things.
I really like to organizethings.
So I did a little bit of that.
And then I did a whole lot ofbinging TV, which I don't even
really like.
(09:47):
So I knew my body just needed,my body and mind almost just
needed a total time out.
So that was interesting andvery cleansing, because I was
watching a show called thementalist.
Have you ever watched that show?
No, I was going to ask what areyou watching, Girl?
Okay, so it's an older show andit's because my, my, our family
(10:07):
really likes psych.
Psych is a an older show aswell, but it's a detective
murder mystery kind of comedy.
It's actually very, very funny.
In my opinion.
Mentalist is a is a riff onthat, except that one is a
little little bit darker, and soit was nice to be able to cry
and kind of move the emotionsout.
(10:28):
I don't know about you, butsometimes I need to just cry.
And now I have a whole weekendscheduled of fabulous work.
So yeah, getting back into workwith you and mapping things out
and copywriting and all the funstuff, oh, wait, are you giving
(10:49):
a hint to what we're doing?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
No, Okay.
I was like, did you just givethat away on a?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
podcast.
No, I would never.
I would never.
This is all censored.
Can we just edit that out?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Lucky for you, I have very little patience when it
comes to editing, so no, it's in, oh good.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Copywriting is a very general term.
Okay, Social media posts,newsletters, you know all those
things we're doing some funstuff that listeners get the
first look at, apparently.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, whoever's listening to this episode.
You guys get to know wellbefore anyone else.
I think that's very cool,thanks, what about you?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
What are you up to this fabulous Friday?
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yes, we are recording on a Friday.
I'm navigating a lot ofemotional stuff.
So we were on vacation lastweek and came back to a lot of
chaos, and if you can relate tothis question of when you go on
a vacation, then you come backto a lot like almost like a
mountain of stuff You're likewas that vacation actually worth
(11:59):
it?
Yeah, this past week has beenplaying catch up and the
interesting thing is, when Iplanned my summer, I planned a
vacation a week back to getcaught up and then another
vacation right before the kidswent back to school, and so I
had to have this like heart toheart with my husband and say do
we actually want to take thesecond vacation or will it make
all of us crazy?
(12:19):
And it was going to be a.
It was a waterfall hunting tripthat we were going on and a
good friend of ours had given uswhat he affectionately calls
the don't go chasing roadmap.
I love that.
I love that roadmap yeah, he'sgot it saved as a Google trip
and he sent me the wholewaterfall vacation and so we
(12:40):
were going to follow his route,which I think it.
I think he said, is it BobDylan?
He had taken this route andwrote a lot of their songs that
are very like well known songs,and so we were going to go do
this.
And then we had a heart toheart with our whole family and
we're like we can't do this,this is too much.
We we have a handful ofdifferent businesses that are
all experiencing growth at thesame time, and it was just
(13:03):
irresponsible.
So we played, grown up andrealized that we couldn't go on
vacation.
How are the kids?
Well, we asked the kids we'relike do you guys care?
And they're like that's cool.
We have a bajillion waterfallsin our neighbor, like in, we
live in Wisconsin, so in theMidwest it's you can get a
waterfall within 20 minutes.
So they're like we'll just goto a different waterfall and I'm
(13:23):
like that's cool that they canpivot and they're not attached.
So then I asked them what doyou guys want to do?
And you know, I thought theywould want these like elaborate,
amazing things to do beforeschool starts and they all have
really simple things.
Oh, we are going to do reallysimple like like what.
Oh well, my son wanted to gogolfing Awesome.
(13:45):
My youngest wants to go to asplash pad, which, interestingly
, I realize we've not gone to asplash pad all year, which, in
my mind, is not an earthshattering thing and probably
why we've never done it thisyear.
And my oldest just wants to goto this like theme park, that is
, like the old school theme park.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, they're, like you know, just really old school
, like you're like do you guyscarry insurance on that, Like on
that ride, that's right, I'mnot really going to watch my
kids go in there.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm sure we all have health insurance before we go on
that one.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Let's just say we're homeless.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, so we're going to just do that.
And then the other part that Iam really excited about is I
aspire to be a hippie gardenerand farmer, and so I'm going to
go play with my honeybees thisweekend and my I've been growing
lavender and lemongrass and itis all in full swing, and it's
(14:44):
so cool when you pull off apiece of lemongrass and you like
crush it in your hands.
Yeah, awesome, and I had noidea.
So I'm like going to Googlewhat to do with it?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh, you know, make like some tea or something.
What are you going to do withit all?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
We make a lot of tea with the lavender, but I've
never done anything with thelemongrass, so we'll see.
Cool, that's the game plan.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I love it.
See, you got to have a plan.
That's the game plan.
But you know what I love aboutthat is you role model to your
kids.
Boundaries, you're willing tostep up and say no to certain
things by saying yes to you, andyour kids already are just so
resilient, and I think itequally role models what we're
(15:24):
discussing today of of there'sease in just simply being
present and asking the otherperson what do you want to do?
And just we really can overcomplicate things as parents.
Yeah, I know I can.
Like you have to have thesemajor grand experiences and
really kids want to be loved andthey want some attention and to
(15:45):
be heard like anybody else.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Right, yeah, you know when you said that, the piece
about boundaries, it'sinteresting.
I had a client yesterday whowas talking about how they are
struggling with establishingboundaries and how everybody's
priority list seems to be takingover their priority list.
And so actually, yeah, so whenyou're saying that I'm like, yes
, I'm hearing that a lot thisweek.
And the other thing that yousaid that I'm hearing a lot from
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people actually I think I'veheard it every day this week
from a client is this idea ofthe hard questions?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So when you're talking about the yoga
instructor who like?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
yeah out on some stuff.
I didn't love that experiencein being vulnerable, but what
she gave me is a gift of thatawareness that I was missing
that blind spot.
But it's really fun when I cando that for other people and
I've had a lot of those thisweek that are just saying thank
you for asking me a hardquestion, because I had that
(16:40):
idea or thought in my head but Icouldn't actually put it to
words or one of them.
She was saying she's like I justI'm glad you asked those hard
questions, because it feels morelike a therapy session and you
were asking me the things thatwould push me to that next level
, which most people just want tobe gentle and ask the hard
questions.
So sometimes it's hard to askthose hard questions or to call
(17:03):
things out, but I think thatit's a really cool gift if you
have somebody in your world thatcould do that and I know
absolutely no.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think that's really great.
And one of the things I startedto say, even in my coaching
sessions, is is it okay for meto ask you a tough question
right now?
In other words, are you open toit?
And I've yet to hear anyone sayno.
And then when I do, it's prettyfun.
But man, being on the receivingend of that question to your
point, I remember sitting in theseat and a coach looking at me
(17:32):
and she just stared me down amentor of mine and I thought, oh
, just from the look, I was alittle unprepared.
And she ends up saying a curseword bowl, fill in the blank.
And she just looks at me Nope,that's not your reason, what's
(17:53):
the real reason?
And I thought, oh, and sodigging deep.
And what's funny to your pointis I was able to bring that to a
couple of sessions later andeveryone you know.
So be willing to ask yourselfthe hard questions for those
listening and be willing to bethat friend and equally cloud
the conversation.
(18:13):
Right, because some peoplearen't in the mood for that
question, some people don't wantto be challenged.
Maybe it's just that particularmoment, maybe it's just ever,
but yeah, hooray for hardquestions.
I'm forgetting outside ofcomfort zones, apes, that's you
today.
How are you feeling?
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I'm still sweaty, seriously Maybe it is hormonal,
I don't know.
You're almost cold too.
I do run cold.
I actually had my space heateron earlier today.
With the air conditioning onAll summer long I tend to live
in sweaters and pants and spaceheaters in my house, but
yesterday was what?
100 and some degree.
Oh, four degrees, so maybe yeah, maybe it's not hormones,
(18:54):
although I do feel like I'mnavigating some grown-up
adventures these days.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
I just read that having itchyhands and feet is hormonal
related.
Really yeah, because I had awoman reach out to me about that
and I thought, oh, that'sinteresting, all these fun
little tips and takeaways Veryinteresting.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, yeah, I've had a lot of people.
I'd be interested actually toknow what you think about this
and for listeners, I feel like,if you're like, what are you
guys even talking about?
I just am really curious tohear what Lisa says about this
one.
So I'm going to ask in a moment.
I've heard some people say inthe last week or so that they
feel like the energy is reallyfunky.
They've all.
I've had people text me ordifferent people in my life, or
(19:39):
even a couple clients.
Actually, the phone call I hadright before this they were
saying to something feel offthis week and I said, well, I
thought it was just me because Iwas getting back from vacation.
But I've heard it so many timesthat I'm like I wonder if
there's something energeticallyand I'm wondering do you know
anything about that?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I know a little bit.
Yeah, first of all, I love thatpeople are making those
connections, because I think sooften we can just run a script
in our head that I'm just tired,I haven't slept well, school's
coming up, I'm stressed, butreally there's bigger energy in
our world and universe.
The energies are pretty intenseright now just from solar
(20:20):
flares and other thingshappening, but we also just got
into Mercury retrograde.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Oh, no way, yes Was it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Today it was the 23rd is when it kicked off.
No way, and I, so some of yourpeople that you were maybe
connected to if they startedfeeling off a few days before.
That's how I am.
I'm always early with Mercuryand then early on the back end
too, like I get out of it soonerbut I also get into it sooner.
(20:50):
So I would.
For all of those that believeare feeling an energetic
misalignment right now, it couldpossibly be Mercury retrograde.
I tend to not sleep well duringit, so that's also a belief
structure that I need to equallywork through.
Right, I know these things, butequally, last night I was like
(21:11):
no one's in my house.
It's quiet.
Why am I not sleeping?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
No, interesting, okay .
So yeah, I do need you toexplain for people who are
unfamiliar with what Mercury andretrograde is.
I do want you to explain that.
And then I also needed to sharethe sleeping part.
For the last few days of thisweek, I haven't been able to
sleep.
I thought that it was hormonal,and this is where I think I'm
(21:36):
in a weird dance, because I'mlearning a lot about my hormones
and I'm also learning about theenergies and just the universe
in general and how those twothings dance with me.
And so sometimes I'm like Ihave no clue, but I hadn't been
sleeping in, so I was joking.
The other day I'm like I'mgonna take a melatonin and a
magnesium.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Have you ever tried the homeopathy, the Born brand?
That's the only thing thatworks for me.
Yeah, I would check those outand we can maybe link just to
the website in the show notes,but those are available.
Amazon Whole Foods, a co-opclose to you, and it helps us.
Yeah, there's differentversions of it.
So it really depends on yourunique systems and what
(22:21):
potentially is blocking you.
So it's a moment in time toread through the.
They're called remedies.
Each individual quote unquotemedicines.
But it's just homeopathy.
Just works with your body'snatural chemistry.
They're all herbs and naturalthings and you take them.
They're little pellets, but theway you select which one works
(22:44):
best for you is you just readthe little descriptor.
So, for example, the one I takefor sleep is because my mind
will spin a lot at night andit's so.
It calms the mind.
But there's other sleep aidsfor only thinking of work or
other things.
So I would check those outSuper interesting.
Okay, can you?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
explain what Mercury in retrograde is.
Just in case my mom islistening to this podcast and
she's like what are you?
Two yo-yos talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, so Mercury is a period of about three weeks and
Mercury is known as the planetof communication and it appears
to be rotating backwards due toits proximity to Earth, but it's
actually not doing that, soit's an optical illusion and
what that does energetically isit tends to mess up our
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communication.
So if you're right now in aseason of life or you notice
like man, I'm getting in morefights with my work colleague or
my partner or my kids or mykid's teacher, whomever it could
possibly be because theenergies right now are off, If
you can't log into Zoom oranything like I've been having
(23:54):
challenges with, that's a reason.
There are people that go so faras to say you should not travel
during Mercury retrograde,because it tends to be when most
like airline flights getcanceled or delayed and things
like that as well.
So I just I know it's supercrazy, and so I just encourage
people to look into it and justmap out when the dates are and
(24:17):
pay attention to how you'refeeling.
I know like I don't sleep well.
My son doesn't sleep well, butmy daughter sleeps great, so
that's also kind of interestingto take into account.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Cool things to notice and then to teach them when
they're older so that they havethat awareness right.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Hey guys, this is what I noticed when you were a
kid.
You know it's so interesting.
You say that earlier this weekI had an employee whose computer
literally just wouldn't eventurn on.
And they work from home andthey called and they're like,
seriously, it just won't eventurn on.
This was a brand new computer,like a month old, and I'm like
you've got to be kidding me.
And then today I had a meetingthis morning and my computer
(24:56):
just froze and the funny partwas I didn't realize it because
I was in a Word document and soI was like, well, I was in like
a Google Docs but I was likejust typing and that part was
working.
But I kept glancing downbecause I knew I had a meeting
in a few minutes.
The clock never changed.
And then I didn't realize thateverything else had frozen,
until I went to click on anotherthing and all the other windows
(25:16):
were all frozen.
It was the strangest thing.
And then I had to like powerdown and I couldn't figure out
how to power.
It was just, it was funny, justa glitch in the matrix.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's kind of what it is.
That's so fascinating.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Okay, so if you're listening to this podcast, we
are recording this on Friday,the 25th, so this podcast will
come out in a couple of days,but that means that pay
attention to where your life waslast week in particular, and if
you notice any of that, but yousaid it's a three week window,
so potentially, as this podcastcomes out, people may be
experiencing it still.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, for sure it's supposed to go through, I
believe, the date of September15th so cool, yeah, and so like
traffic may be more intense,there might be just more
misunderstandings, and somepeople go so far as to say don't
sign contracts or startanything really big and new
during this timeframe.
(26:09):
So it is something to justexplore and to create a belief
system and pattern that worksfor you.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
So cool, yeah.
So I feel like that kind ofstuff can stress people out,
myself included.
So I just have to share withyou and for anybody who's
listening?
Well, if you're stressed like I, get stressed out if my
computer and I can't log in orsomething is working.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like I was on a phone call earlier today and it kept
hanging like clicking out yeah,and I actually was joking, I was
like I wonder if it's somethingwith Mercury, but never took
the time to actually look at all.
I know enough to just talk agood game.
You caught me, but I actuallyam not in a practice of looking
it up and actually knowing whenit happens.
But I do want to tell you thisbecause I don't know if I shared
(26:52):
this with you.
But when I get stressed, I'dlove to hear what you do when
you get stressed.
But when I get stressed latelywhat I've been doing is I've
been popping in a gratitudehypnosis track in my ears
Because I've realized that whenI get stressed I go into all of
these habits that if you'velistened to the podcast for a
while, you probably heard mytalk about my red flags or
(27:14):
habits or things that don'tserve me.
But what I've been trying to dois catch that really soon and
what I've found is that if Ifocus on being grateful that it
helps me to overcome thatquicker.
And so Leigh I got to tell youthis, going into our vacation
the whole week before I wasfeeling a little stressed,
trying to get everything donebefore we left, so I chose to
(27:37):
listen to a gratitude is theattitude podcast.
I'm not podcast hypnosis track.
Every day leading up to it Iseriously was having the best
days ever.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You were.
I remember talking to you.
I was like, wow, this is like amagical vacation Even, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
So we were with our extended family and everybody
kept saying you're in a reallygood mood and I'm like holy crap
, who is that person?
Yeah, Beyond, just overfriendly and like golden
retriever who just wants totackle, hug you.
I couldn't stop smiling and Ifound that to be really helpful,
and so the other day I wasfeeling stressed again, so I
popped it in again and it justshifted it.
(28:16):
It's so cool.
What do you do when you'restressed?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, first of all, awareness is always what's going
to make you find what works foryou, right, and then testing
and figuring out what does andthen actually doing it.
And I hope we have a podcastsometime about habits, right,
Because habit coaching is such ahuge industry and there's so
much great stuff going on there.
But there's also some big gaps,and what you really dialed into
(28:42):
there was more identity stuffand how you're reframing and
retraining your brain, which issuper cool, and we can geek out
on that in a different day.
Me when I'm stressed, Iwithdraw and I get quiet, and so
when I can't get that, I getmore stressed.
So this weekend is such a giftto have the quiet, which is why
(29:05):
in the beginning, when I shared,it's so almost unnerving.
I think my nervous system isjust trying to catch up and to
just say you're safe.
I basically created the exactenvironment that I needed and
wanted.
So now enjoy it and don't fightit so much.
But I definitely withdraw and Iget quiet.
(29:26):
If I have to, I'll leave thehouse and go on a walk, but
living in a city, that's notalways the most relaxing of
walks, unless I get to the lake,which is always very
restorative.
I'd love to tell you my journaland I do all these amazing
things, but I really don't Sure.
I think there's greatopportunity there and I love
(29:49):
your, go for a run.
Oh my gosh, if you can get me tobe a runner, I think the world
really will end.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Okay, for anybody who is listening, if you've ever
gone for a run to like, justwork through some stuff.
It's a game changer, I'mtelling you, elise, it's awful.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I hear this a lot in my head.
I'm a total runner and I'm partof that group and I total in
them.
Just I get out there and myyeah, this is, I need a purpose
to run.
Put a basketball in my hand.
I got you.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I'm not going to just run, to run, I'll walk.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'll walk, I'll be your shadow.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
That's interesting.
You say that.
Did you know that years ago Irecorded an entire series of
this podcast called Walk With Meseries?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I do remember that Is that where the fox came out.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Oh gosh, I don't even remember.
It was about that same time oflife, yeah.
But, it was so interestingbecause I did these really short
, like eight minute-ish, likejust topics, and I had so many
people who started walkingbecause of that series.
It's so fun when I get to hearpeople.
They're like you know, you'rethe one who started me on these
(31:01):
like little walks, and now Iwalk and I listen to the podcast
.
I'm like, oh, that's really cool.
So you're really cool.
Well, thanks, I feel you likeyou are too.
But okay, so I'm realizing thatwe've been bantering for a
while.
And I didn't realize that thiswould just when you suggested
that we introduce ourselves andtalk with people and and just
(31:24):
let a friend just sit at thetable with us, I was like what?
Are we going to talk about.
Clearly, we had no trouble.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, none, and I hope people felt like they were here
with us.
I mean, this is truly, if Icall you or you call me, this is
how our conversations tend togo.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, all over the place, all over the place also
good challenges Right.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We all.
We walk away with some goodoutcomes and a whole lot of love
.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I love you girl, back at you.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So thank you to anyone who was listening and
indulging in our education onMercury in retrograde.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Absolutely Tell us how it affects you.
I am really curious because itreally does affect other
everybody differently.
But yeah, please leave a note.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, we'd love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Anything else that's like weighing on your heart or
on your mind that you'd like totalk about this week.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'm just so proud of you for jumping outside of your
comfort zone in front ofeveryone.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's so cool, just riffing.
This is great, thank you,thanks Back at you.
You know, for those of you whoare just joining us and maybe
new to the podcast, lisa joinedlast week was her first one and
although she she was verygracious when I first started
this podcast because I was like,who will talk to me on a
(32:42):
podcast?
And she's like, I'll do it, Igot you girl and so she was
really generous years ago.
Last week was the really thefirst one and it was really fun,
but it was.
I mean, it was a new step inthat direction for both of us,
so it really was out of ourcomfort zone.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Both.
Yeah, it last week was so wildA lot of things to process, and
so I was definitely outside ofmy comfort zone last week.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And you got a lot of feedback, which was pretty fun
to hear about some of the peoplethat have reached out to you
and said different things.
So, yeah, you know, if anybodyis needing a little nudge on
stepping out of their comfortzone, whatever that looks like,
we will.
We will step out of our comfortzone right there, with you
Doing it in real time.
I'm literally sweating.
So I'm just going to say butseriously, I think that you know
(33:32):
, when you step out of yourcomfort zone you start to wobble
a little bit, but that's howyou, that's where the growth
happens.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, yeah.
So it assumes that peoplelistening do want to grow, right
, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean I think we've had thatconversation before as well.
So, um, yeah, enjoy the journey, enjoy the growth and stick
around with us.
Stick around the table, we'dlove to chat with you more.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, lisa's going to be working on some stuff this
weekend that she can't wait toroll up for you, that's right In
all good time.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No spoilers.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
No spoilers at all, all right.
Well, on that note, lisa, thankyou so much for this week's
podcast to everyone who'slistening.
We are just so grateful for youand we hope that you go out and
make it an incredible week.
What do you think, lisa?
Any last thoughts?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, go.
Go, make your impact and beyourself.
It's the best thing we can do.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yes, absolutely All right.
Well, I like to close thepodcast with a saying that I've
said for a really long time.
I've said this since thebeginning, because the podcast
used to be in a theme tied to abar that I own.
So I would say cheers to goodkarma.
It's closing time and I have totell you, lisa, because now
that you're part of this, I feellike maybe we need to change a
(34:42):
lot of those things.
Sure Habits, but the closingtime really quick.
I play the song Closing Time formy kids at the end of the day
when they have to pick up andlike get ready for bed.
And we were at a venue recentlythat was closing down and they
played it in all three of myyoung children and the staff was
(35:06):
like how do you guys know thesong?
They're like oh yeah, our mommakes us have closing time every
day.
So it was just kind of funny.
I was like aw, it was a littleproud moment, right?
Yes, yes, I love that song, Ilove that.
They know it.
But I do feel like you know atsome point, if we want a
different saying, I'm open andfor listeners, if you guys have
(35:28):
any great ideas, I'm open.
We're open to feedback and ifyou want to be part of shaping
our journey and how this evolves, we want it to just unfold
organically, absolutely, andhave it impact you and be very
useful for you and your life andyour growth.
So on that note for now.
Cheers to good karma.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It is closing time.
Thank you for listening to thisentire podcast.
I hope this episode has leftyou feeling curious and inspired
.
This podcast is intended tocreate expansion in your life
through unique stories andshared experiences, and if you
enjoyed today's episode, I havea request.
(36:08):
I'd like to ask you to sharethis podcast with your friends
and family.
I bet they'd enjoy it just asmuch as you have.
And, if you found value, pleaseshare this on your social media
outlets.
That is good karma in action.
My friends, all right, it isnow closing time.
Cheers to good karma and thepower to choose joy.
If you like this, tell yourfriends.
(36:31):
Thanks for listening.
Welcome to the Paradigm.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
New Podcast.
Hello, this is Lisa Sainowski,co-host of the Paradigm New
Podcast, and in this week'sepisode I get April to step way
outside of her comfort zone, andin doing so, we have a whole
lot of fun banter and takeawayswaiting for you.
So go ahead and pull up a chair, sit down with us and enjoy our
(00:23):
friendly banter as you get toequally explore what's coming up
for you in your life.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You're listening to the Paradigm New Podcast.
You're about to starttransforming your life by
growing your mind and expandingyour paradigms.
Here we'll cover real lifetopics, just like the stuff
you'd share with a good friend.
This podcast will serve uptopics that weigh on our hearts
and keep us up at night, Whetherit's navigating parenthood and
becoming an adult, or wayfinding, personal development, marriage
and money.
You, my friend, are in theright place.
(00:51):
I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Okay, we are back for another weekly podcast.
Welcome to the Paradigm NewPodcast.
Today you get to hear from Lisaand I, and we are going to do
something that is totally out ofmy comfort zone.
We're going to let Lisa takethe lead on this one.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I wish y'all could have saw her face when I even
brought up this idea of thispodcast today.
First of all, it is so great tobe back with you, apes.
So today's outside April'scomfort zone is simply a
conversation amongst friends.
It's going to be great.
We get caught up in the hustleand bustle of life as moms as
the beginning of the school yearis upon us, the stress and the
(01:33):
inevitable burnout can be real.
So we thought, especially afterthe launch of the first podcast,
we've been getting a lot ofquestions about our relationship
and what we do every day or howwe talk.
It was.
I got some really fun questionsand I thought okay, well,
pretend that you're sitting downat this table with us and we're
just going to chat.
(01:53):
We're just going to have afriendly chat.
And this is so outside ofApril's comfort zone, because
April is a massive achiever anda massive doer.
So learning how to undo andsimply be, which is part of all
of our journeys, of course, butApril's next level, with doing
y'all.
You didn't know that yet and Idon't know what that look is oh
(02:17):
yeah, I'm totally sweating.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Oh good, Okay great, my back is going, neck is hot.
Maybe it's hormones, maybe it'sjust the discomfort, but yes,
I've actually gotten thismessage a couple times this week
.
I've gotten the hint that Ineed to just be present and just
chill and actually enjoy lifeinstead of constantly being in
(02:40):
the doing and I tend to be adoer, as Lisa said.
Interestingly, when Lisa saidwe should have a conversation
and riff back and forth andallow people to get to know us,
I was like what, what, what,what should I say?
But I will say this one thingand then I will at least take
(03:00):
the lead, because this is out ofmy comfort zone.
I went to a yoga class earlierthis week and I walked away from
that class just angry.
I was so upset and just sofeeling lost that I asked the
instructor after class if shecould call me, and so she called
me later that day and she'slike what's going on?
(03:22):
And I obviously she knowsnothing about what she's walking
into.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
And I said I know, right.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You don't know what you're going to talk with April
about most days if you talk tome.
But I said you know I went toclass and I felt really lost in
my yoga practice lately becauseI have had a shoulder injury and
when I go to a lot of myfavorite classes that used to be
in the past I can't do some ofthe things because I can feel
the pain and I know that Ishouldn't push, but I tend to
(03:52):
just want to overdo and justkeep pushing, even though it's
painful and I'm feeling lost inmy yoga practice.
But equally, I know that yoga iswhat gets me centered and takes
good care of me.
And she said April, you are ago-getter in every area of life.
I've watched you in yoga foryears and anytime I give a
(04:12):
modification like try this, youwill fall flat on your face just
trying it.
And she's like but when whatyour practice is right now is to
allow yourself to not have todo and just be, she's like just
breathe and just be present andto listen to whatever it is that
you need, because what I needis different than the person
(04:35):
next to me on a different mat.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You guys, I started like getting choked up and I
just was like celebrating the,the reality that she's spot on,
but also like I should haveknown that because I'm a
go-getter.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Did you then go home to like make yourself a whole
strategy and list of all thethings to not do?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, I just I decided to just bask in it and be
grateful that I had a yogainstructor who was willing to be
that honest and just speak fromthe, the cuff you know just
this is what her observationsare.
And then I decided the next dayto go to another yoga class
with somebody different and tojust have that in the back of my
head and I had permacrylatethat entire next class because I
(05:17):
decided to just be in themoment and just to be really,
really happy.
Wow, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, that's huge for you, congratulations, thank you
.
You said something you saidactually reminds me a lot of our
relationship and friendship,because, first of all, that yoga
instructor high fives to her.
I just I want to hug her.
That's sage advice andradically intuitive.
But also being willing to bethe voice of challenge in
(05:47):
someone's life, man, that's aninteresting role, because I'm
here to tell you and I'm sureyou've experienced this too but
a lot of people don't want to bechallenged, they just want
their worldview, they want tocomplain, they want to stay in
their circumstance, they wanttheir shoulder to keep hurting
but to still do every singleyoga pose.
And so you've always challengedme, you always asked me
(06:11):
questions and made me actuallyponder and think.
In fact, part of the impetusfor our conversation today was
because, even just on our lastpodcast episode, I learned
something about you and Ithought we have these deep, very
deep conversations constantlyas friends and there's still so
much I don't know.
Bam.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, that's the cool part, right, you get to peel
back different parts of thelayer of the onion Seriously,
and I think if you're willing toask the hard questions and go
deep with somebody, then you canlearn a lot of things.
But sometimes that means thatwe're missing the basic stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Ooh for sure, like hydration Do we got a timer
coming up April, oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
But let's just, you guys can't see this, but I'm
going to show Lisa that's fair.
I got my version of that energydrink.
Yeah, I have from anybody whoknows me really well that one of
my biggest hurdles is gettingoff of caffeine and I live on
energy drinks.
And I embraced energy drinks acouple of years ago when I gave
up soda because I said it was ahabit and addiction.
(07:16):
It was huge.
I was consuming a lot of sugarbut interestingly, I just
swapped it out with energydrinks and I told myself that's
better.
I don't think it's actuallybetter, but if you say I don't,
want to talk about energy soda.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
There you go, there you go, one step at a time.
Next up is going to be like thehealthy, healthiest biohacking
versions of energy drinks.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, Lisa gets me into those sometimes.
If you want biohacking advice,that would be Lisa.
If you want to talk to somebodyabout habits that burn you out,
talk to April.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, yes, I think we both are good at both.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I'm sure, yeah, so Lisa wanted to introduce
listeners to both of us in ourrelationships.
So, lisa, what would you liketo talk about today?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh, what I like to talk about today.
I have an empty house.
I have no husband and no kidsin my house for the entire
weekend.
Do you know how rare?
I don't know if this I'm trying, I'm literally racking my brain
.
I don't know if this has everhappened before, maybe once
before.
And so it's the quiet that youalways want, and then the quiet
(08:28):
that you also loathe as a mom.
I don't know about you, but I'mlike I just want some peace and
quiet.
And then the second the kidsare gone.
I'm like I just want to be withmy kid Yep.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
What is that?
We do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yes.
So no, it's been.
It's been great.
I'm learning a lot about myselfin the season of life, being in
a house alone, and what I'mchoosing to do and, most
importantly, what I'm choosingnot to do.
It's been very fun.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, you can't just leave us hanging.
What are you doing and what areyou not doing?
Because now I just want to be afly on the wall and be like
what's Lisa doing with all thisfree time?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right, I want to say I knocked out all these amazing
trainings and I've been doingyoga, I'm meditating and I want
to be able to say all that.
You know what I did?
I did some online home day coreshopping because I got a party
coming up for my son and I don'tknow about you, but before a
party I kind of go into, I wantto fix certain things in my
house mode or just upgrade themrather.
(09:26):
So I did that.
But then I did something that Iaffectionately refer to as
puttering just kind of walkaround my house and put things
away or reorganize things.
I really like to organizethings.
So I did a little bit of that.
And then I did a whole lot ofbinging TV, which I don't even
really like.
(09:47):
So I knew my body just needed,my body and mind almost just
needed a total time out.
So that was interesting andvery cleansing, because I was
watching a show called thementalist.
Have you ever watched that show?
No, I was going to ask what areyou watching, Girl?
Okay, so it's an older show andit's because my, my, our family
(10:07):
really likes psych.
Psych is a an older show aswell, but it's a detective
murder mystery kind of comedy.
It's actually very, very funny.
In my opinion.
Mentalist is a is a riff onthat, except that one is a
little little bit darker, and soit was nice to be able to cry
and kind of move the emotionsout.
(10:28):
I don't know about you, butsometimes I need to just cry.
And now I have a whole weekendscheduled of fabulous work.
So yeah, getting back into workwith you and mapping things out
and copywriting and all the funstuff, oh, wait, are you giving
(10:49):
a hint to what we're doing?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
No, Okay.
I was like, did you just givethat away on a?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
podcast.
No, I would never.
I would never.
This is all censored.
Can we just edit that out?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Lucky for you, I have very little patience when it
comes to editing, so no, it's in, oh good.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Copywriting is a very general term.
Okay, Social media posts,newsletters, you know all those
things we're doing some funstuff that listeners get the
first look at, apparently.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, whoever's listening to this episode.
You guys get to know wellbefore anyone else.
I think that's very cool,thanks, what about you?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
What are you up to this fabulous Friday?
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yes, we are recording on a Friday.
I'm navigating a lot ofemotional stuff.
So we were on vacation lastweek and came back to a lot of
chaos, and if you can relate tothis question of when you go on
a vacation, then you come backto a lot like almost like a
mountain of stuff You're likewas that vacation actually worth
(11:59):
it?
Yeah, this past week has beenplaying catch up and the
interesting thing is, when Iplanned my summer, I planned a
vacation a week back to getcaught up and then another
vacation right before the kidswent back to school, and so I
had to have this like heart toheart with my husband and say do
we actually want to take thesecond vacation or will it make
all of us crazy?
(12:19):
And it was going to be a.
It was a waterfall hunting tripthat we were going on and a
good friend of ours had given uswhat he affectionately calls
the don't go chasing roadmap.
I love that.
I love that roadmap yeah, he'sgot it saved as a Google trip
and he sent me the wholewaterfall vacation and so we
(12:40):
were going to follow his route,which I think it.
I think he said, is it BobDylan?
He had taken this route andwrote a lot of their songs that
are very like well known songs,and so we were going to go do
this.
And then we had a heart toheart with our whole family and
we're like we can't do this,this is too much.
We we have a handful ofdifferent businesses that are
all experiencing growth at thesame time, and it was just
(13:03):
irresponsible.
So we played, grown up andrealized that we couldn't go on
vacation.
How are the kids?
Well, we asked the kids we'relike do you guys care?
And they're like that's cool.
We have a bajillion waterfallsin our neighbor, like in, we
live in Wisconsin, so in theMidwest it's you can get a
waterfall within 20 minutes.
So they're like we'll just goto a different waterfall and I'm
(13:23):
like that's cool that they canpivot and they're not attached.
So then I asked them what doyou guys want to do?
And you know, I thought theywould want these like elaborate,
amazing things to do beforeschool starts and they all have
really simple things.
Oh, we are going to do reallysimple like like what.
Oh well, my son wanted to gogolfing Awesome.
(13:45):
My youngest wants to go to asplash pad, which, interestingly
, I realize we've not gone to asplash pad all year, which, in
my mind, is not an earthshattering thing and probably
why we've never done it thisyear.
And my oldest just wants to goto this like theme park, that is
, like the old school theme park.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, they're, like you know, just really old school
, like you're like do you guyscarry insurance on that, Like on
that ride, that's right, I'mnot really going to watch my
kids go in there.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm sure we all have health insurance before we go on
that one.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Let's just say we're homeless.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, so we're going to just do that.
And then the other part that Iam really excited about is I
aspire to be a hippie gardenerand farmer, and so I'm going to
go play with my honeybees thisweekend and my I've been growing
lavender and lemongrass and itis all in full swing, and it's
(14:44):
so cool when you pull off apiece of lemongrass and you like
crush it in your hands.
Yeah, awesome, and I had noidea.
So I'm like going to Googlewhat to do with it?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh, you know, make like some tea or something.
What are you going to do withit all?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
We make a lot of tea with the lavender, but I've
never done anything with thelemongrass, so we'll see.
Cool, that's the game plan.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I love it.
See, you got to have a plan.
That's the game plan.
But you know what I love aboutthat is you role model to your
kids.
Boundaries, you're willing tostep up and say no to certain
things by saying yes to you, andyour kids already are just so
resilient, and I think itequally role models what we're
(15:24):
discussing today of of there'sease in just simply being
present and asking the otherperson what do you want to do?
And just we really can overcomplicate things as parents.
Yeah, I know I can.
Like you have to have thesemajor grand experiences and
really kids want to be loved andthey want some attention and to
(15:45):
be heard like anybody else.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Right, yeah, you know when you said that, the piece
about boundaries, it'sinteresting.
I had a client yesterday whowas talking about how they are
struggling with establishingboundaries and how everybody's
priority list seems to be takingover their priority list.
And so actually, yeah, so whenyou're saying that I'm like, yes
, I'm hearing that a lot thisweek.
And the other thing that yousaid that I'm hearing a lot from
(16:10):
people actually I think I'veheard it every day this week
from a client is this idea ofthe hard questions?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So when you're talking about the yoga
instructor who like?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
yeah out on some stuff.
I didn't love that experiencein being vulnerable, but what
she gave me is a gift of thatawareness that I was missing
that blind spot.
But it's really fun when I cando that for other people and
I've had a lot of those thisweek that are just saying thank
you for asking me a hardquestion, because I had that
(16:40):
idea or thought in my head but Icouldn't actually put it to
words or one of them.
She was saying she's like I justI'm glad you asked those hard
questions, because it feels morelike a therapy session and you
were asking me the things thatwould push me to that next level
, which most people just want tobe gentle and ask the hard
questions.
So sometimes it's hard to askthose hard questions or to call
(17:03):
things out, but I think thatit's a really cool gift if you
have somebody in your world thatcould do that and I know
absolutely no.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think that's really great.
And one of the things I startedto say, even in my coaching
sessions, is is it okay for meto ask you a tough question
right now?
In other words, are you open toit?
And I've yet to hear anyone sayno.
And then when I do, it's prettyfun.
But man, being on the receivingend of that question to your
point, I remember sitting in theseat and a coach looking at me
(17:32):
and she just stared me down amentor of mine and I thought, oh
, just from the look, I was alittle unprepared.
And she ends up saying a curseword bowl, fill in the blank.
And she just looks at me Nope,that's not your reason, what's
(17:53):
the real reason?
And I thought, oh, and sodigging deep.
And what's funny to your pointis I was able to bring that to a
couple of sessions later andeveryone you know.
So be willing to ask yourselfthe hard questions for those
listening and be willing to bethat friend and equally cloud
the conversation.
(18:13):
Right, because some peoplearen't in the mood for that
question, some people don't wantto be challenged.
Maybe it's just that particularmoment, maybe it's just ever,
but yeah, hooray for hardquestions.
I'm forgetting outside ofcomfort zones, apes, that's you
today.
How are you feeling?
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I'm still sweaty, seriously Maybe it is hormonal,
I don't know.
You're almost cold too.
I do run cold.
I actually had my space heateron earlier today.
With the air conditioning onAll summer long I tend to live
in sweaters and pants and spaceheaters in my house, but
yesterday was what?
100 and some degree.
Oh, four degrees, so maybe yeah, maybe it's not hormones,
(18:54):
although I do feel like I'mnavigating some grown-up
adventures these days.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
I just read that having itchyhands and feet is hormonal
related.
Really yeah, because I had awoman reach out to me about that
and I thought, oh, that'sinteresting, all these fun
little tips and takeaways Veryinteresting.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, yeah, I've had a lot of people.
I'd be interested actually toknow what you think about this
and for listeners, I feel like,if you're like, what are you
guys even talking about?
I just am really curious tohear what Lisa says about this
one.
So I'm going to ask in a moment.
I've heard some people say inthe last week or so that they
feel like the energy is reallyfunky.
They've all.
I've had people text me ordifferent people in my life, or
(19:39):
even a couple clients.
Actually, the phone call I hadright before this they were
saying to something feel offthis week and I said, well, I
thought it was just me because Iwas getting back from vacation.
But I've heard it so many timesthat I'm like I wonder if
there's something energeticallyand I'm wondering do you know
anything about that?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I know a little bit.
Yeah, first of all, I love thatpeople are making those
connections, because I think sooften we can just run a script
in our head that I'm just tired,I haven't slept well, school's
coming up, I'm stressed, butreally there's bigger energy in
our world and universe.
The energies are pretty intenseright now just from solar
(20:20):
flares and other thingshappening, but we also just got
into Mercury retrograde.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Oh, no way, yes Was it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Today it was the 23rd is when it kicked off.
No way, and I, so some of yourpeople that you were maybe
connected to if they startedfeeling off a few days before.
That's how I am.
I'm always early with Mercuryand then early on the back end
too, like I get out of it soonerbut I also get into it sooner.
(20:50):
So I would.
For all of those that believeare feeling an energetic
misalignment right now, it couldpossibly be Mercury retrograde.
I tend to not sleep well duringit, so that's also a belief
structure that I need to equallywork through.
Right, I know these things, butequally, last night I was like
(21:11):
no one's in my house.
It's quiet.
Why am I not sleeping?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
No, interesting, okay .
So yeah, I do need you toexplain for people who are
unfamiliar with what Mercury andretrograde is.
I do want you to explain that.
And then I also needed to sharethe sleeping part.
For the last few days of thisweek, I haven't been able to
sleep.
I thought that it was hormonal,and this is where I think I'm
(21:36):
in a weird dance, because I'mlearning a lot about my hormones
and I'm also learning about theenergies and just the universe
in general and how those twothings dance with me.
And so sometimes I'm like Ihave no clue, but I hadn't been
sleeping in, so I was joking.
The other day I'm like I'mgonna take a melatonin and a
magnesium.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Have you ever tried the homeopathy, the Born brand?
That's the only thing thatworks for me.
Yeah, I would check those outand we can maybe link just to
the website in the show notes,but those are available.
Amazon Whole Foods, a co-opclose to you, and it helps us.
Yeah, there's differentversions of it.
So it really depends on yourunique systems and what
(22:21):
potentially is blocking you.
So it's a moment in time toread through the.
They're called remedies.
Each individual quote unquotemedicines.
But it's just homeopathy.
Just works with your body'snatural chemistry.
They're all herbs and naturalthings and you take them.
They're little pellets, but theway you select which one works
(22:44):
best for you is you just readthe little descriptor.
So, for example, the one I takefor sleep is because my mind
will spin a lot at night andit's so.
It calms the mind.
But there's other sleep aidsfor only thinking of work or
other things.
So I would check those outSuper interesting.
Okay, can you?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
explain what Mercury in retrograde is.
Just in case my mom islistening to this podcast and
she's like what are you?
Two yo-yos talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, so Mercury is a period of about three weeks and
Mercury is known as the planetof communication and it appears
to be rotating backwards due toits proximity to Earth, but it's
actually not doing that, soit's an optical illusion and
what that does energetically isit tends to mess up our
(23:34):
communication.
So if you're right now in aseason of life or you notice
like man, I'm getting in morefights with my work colleague or
my partner or my kids or mykid's teacher, whomever it could
possibly be because theenergies right now are off, If
you can't log into Zoom oranything like I've been having
(23:54):
challenges with, that's a reason.
There are people that go so faras to say you should not travel
during Mercury retrograde,because it tends to be when most
like airline flights getcanceled or delayed and things
like that as well.
So I just I know it's supercrazy, and so I just encourage
people to look into it and justmap out when the dates are and
(24:17):
pay attention to how you'refeeling.
I know like I don't sleep well.
My son doesn't sleep well, butmy daughter sleeps great, so
that's also kind of interestingto take into account.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Cool things to notice and then to teach them when
they're older so that they havethat awareness right.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Hey guys, this is what I noticed when you were a
kid.
You know it's so interesting.
You say that earlier this weekI had an employee whose computer
literally just wouldn't eventurn on.
And they work from home andthey called and they're like,
seriously, it just won't eventurn on.
This was a brand new computer,like a month old, and I'm like
you've got to be kidding me.
And then today I had a meetingthis morning and my computer
(24:56):
just froze and the funny partwas I didn't realize it because
I was in a Word document and soI was like, well, I was in like
a Google Docs but I was likejust typing and that part was
working.
But I kept glancing downbecause I knew I had a meeting
in a few minutes.
The clock never changed.
And then I didn't realize thateverything else had frozen,
until I went to click on anotherthing and all the other windows
(25:16):
were all frozen.
It was the strangest thing.
And then I had to like powerdown and I couldn't figure out
how to power.
It was just, it was funny, justa glitch in the matrix.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's kind of what it is.
That's so fascinating.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Okay, so if you're listening to this podcast, we
are recording this on Friday,the 25th, so this podcast will
come out in a couple of days,but that means that pay
attention to where your life waslast week in particular, and if
you notice any of that, but yousaid it's a three week window,
so potentially, as this podcastcomes out, people may be
experiencing it still.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, for sure it's supposed to go through, I
believe, the date of September15th so cool, yeah, and so like
traffic may be more intense,there might be just more
misunderstandings, and somepeople go so far as to say don't
sign contracts or startanything really big and new
during this timeframe.
(26:09):
So it is something to justexplore and to create a belief
system and pattern that worksfor you.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
So cool, yeah.
So I feel like that kind ofstuff can stress people out,
myself included.
So I just have to share withyou and for anybody who's
listening?
Well, if you're stressed like I, get stressed out if my
computer and I can't log in orsomething is working.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like I was on a phone call earlier today and it kept
hanging like clicking out yeah,and I actually was joking, I was
like I wonder if it's somethingwith Mercury, but never took
the time to actually look at all.
I know enough to just talk agood game.
You caught me, but I actuallyam not in a practice of looking
it up and actually knowing whenit happens.
But I do want to tell you thisbecause I don't know if I shared
(26:52):
this with you.
But when I get stressed, I'dlove to hear what you do when
you get stressed.
But when I get stressed latelywhat I've been doing is I've
been popping in a gratitudehypnosis track in my ears
Because I've realized that whenI get stressed I go into all of
these habits that if you'velistened to the podcast for a
while, you probably heard mytalk about my red flags or
(27:14):
habits or things that don'tserve me.
But what I've been trying to dois catch that really soon and
what I've found is that if Ifocus on being grateful that it
helps me to overcome thatquicker.
And so Leigh I got to tell youthis, going into our vacation
the whole week before I wasfeeling a little stressed,
trying to get everything donebefore we left, so I chose to
(27:37):
listen to a gratitude is theattitude podcast.
I'm not podcast hypnosis track.
Every day leading up to it Iseriously was having the best
days ever.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You were.
I remember talking to you.
I was like, wow, this is like amagical vacation Even, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
So we were with our extended family and everybody
kept saying you're in a reallygood mood and I'm like holy crap
, who is that person?
Yeah, Beyond, just overfriendly and like golden
retriever who just wants totackle, hug you.
I couldn't stop smiling and Ifound that to be really helpful,
and so the other day I wasfeeling stressed again, so I
popped it in again and it justshifted it.
(28:16):
It's so cool.
What do you do when you'restressed?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, first of all, awareness is always what's going
to make you find what works foryou, right, and then testing
and figuring out what does andthen actually doing it.
And I hope we have a podcastsometime about habits, right,
Because habit coaching is such ahuge industry and there's so
much great stuff going on there.
But there's also some big gaps,and what you really dialed into
(28:42):
there was more identity stuffand how you're reframing and
retraining your brain, which issuper cool, and we can geek out
on that in a different day.
Me when I'm stressed, Iwithdraw and I get quiet, and so
when I can't get that, I getmore stressed.
So this weekend is such a giftto have the quiet, which is why
(29:05):
in the beginning, when I shared,it's so almost unnerving.
I think my nervous system isjust trying to catch up and to
just say you're safe.
I basically created the exactenvironment that I needed and
wanted.
So now enjoy it and don't fightit so much.
But I definitely withdraw and Iget quiet.
(29:26):
If I have to, I'll leave thehouse and go on a walk, but
living in a city, that's notalways the most relaxing of
walks, unless I get to the lake,which is always very
restorative.
I'd love to tell you my journaland I do all these amazing
things, but I really don't Sure.
I think there's greatopportunity there and I love
(29:49):
your, go for a run.
Oh my gosh, if you can get me tobe a runner, I think the world
really will end.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Okay, for anybody who is listening, if you've ever
gone for a run to like, justwork through some stuff.
It's a game changer, I'mtelling you, elise, it's awful.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I hear this a lot in my head.
I'm a total runner and I'm partof that group and I total in
them.
Just I get out there and myyeah, this is, I need a purpose
to run.
Put a basketball in my hand.
I got you.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I'm not going to just run, to run, I'll walk.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'll walk, I'll be your shadow.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
That's interesting.
You say that.
Did you know that years ago Irecorded an entire series of
this podcast called Walk With Meseries?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I do remember that Is that where the fox came out.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Oh gosh, I don't even remember.
It was about that same time oflife, yeah.
But, it was so interestingbecause I did these really short
, like eight minute-ish, likejust topics, and I had so many
people who started walkingbecause of that series.
It's so fun when I get to hearpeople.
They're like you know, you'rethe one who started me on these
(31:01):
like little walks, and now Iwalk and I listen to the podcast
.
I'm like, oh, that's really cool.
So you're really cool.
Well, thanks, I feel you likeyou are too.
But okay, so I'm realizing thatwe've been bantering for a
while.
And I didn't realize that thiswould just when you suggested
that we introduce ourselves andtalk with people and and just
(31:24):
let a friend just sit at thetable with us, I was like what?
Are we going to talk about.
Clearly, we had no trouble.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, none, and I hope people felt like they were here
with us.
I mean, this is truly, if Icall you or you call me, this is
how our conversations tend togo.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, all over the place, all over the place also
good challenges Right.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We all.
We walk away with some goodoutcomes and a whole lot of love
.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I love you girl, back at you.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So thank you to anyone who was listening and
indulging in our education onMercury in retrograde.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Absolutely Tell us how it affects you.
I am really curious because itreally does affect other
everybody differently.
But yeah, please leave a note.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, we'd love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Anything else that's like weighing on your heart or
on your mind that you'd like totalk about this week.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'm just so proud of you for jumping outside of your
comfort zone in front ofeveryone.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's so cool, just riffing.
This is great, thank you,thanks Back at you.
You know, for those of you whoare just joining us and maybe
new to the podcast, lisa joinedlast week was her first one and
although she she was verygracious when I first started
this podcast because I was like,who will talk to me on a
(32:42):
podcast?
And she's like, I'll do it, Igot you girl and so she was
really generous years ago.
Last week was the really thefirst one and it was really fun,
but it was.
I mean, it was a new step inthat direction for both of us,
so it really was out of ourcomfort zone.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Both.
Yeah, it last week was so wildA lot of things to process, and
so I was definitely outside ofmy comfort zone last week.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And you got a lot of feedback, which was pretty fun
to hear about some of the peoplethat have reached out to you
and said different things.
So, yeah, you know, if anybodyis needing a little nudge on
stepping out of their comfortzone, whatever that looks like,
we will.
We will step out of our comfortzone right there, with you
Doing it in real time.
I'm literally sweating.
So I'm just going to say butseriously, I think that you know
(33:32):
, when you step out of yourcomfort zone you start to wobble
a little bit, but that's howyou, that's where the growth
happens.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, yeah.
So it assumes that peoplelistening do want to grow, right
, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean I think we've had thatconversation before as well.
So, um, yeah, enjoy the journey, enjoy the growth and stick
around with us.
Stick around the table, we'dlove to chat with you more.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, lisa's going to be working on some stuff this
weekend that she can't wait toroll up for you, that's right In
all good time.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No spoilers.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
No spoilers at all, all right.
Well, on that note, lisa, thankyou so much for this week's
podcast to everyone who'slistening.
We are just so grateful for youand we hope that you go out and
make it an incredible week.
What do you think, lisa?
Any last thoughts?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, go.
Go, make your impact and beyourself.
It's the best thing we can do.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yes, absolutely All right.
Well, I like to close thepodcast with a saying that I've
said for a really long time.
I've said this since thebeginning, because the podcast
used to be in a theme tied to abar that I own.
So I would say cheers to goodkarma.
It's closing time and I have totell you, lisa, because now
that you're part of this, I feellike maybe we need to change a
(34:42):
lot of those things.
Sure Habits, but the closingtime really quick.
I play the song Closing Time formy kids at the end of the day
when they have to pick up andlike get ready for bed.
And we were at a venue recentlythat was closing down and they
played it in all three of myyoung children and the staff was
(35:06):
like how do you guys know thesong?
They're like oh yeah, our mommakes us have closing time every
day.
So it was just kind of funny.
I was like aw, it was a littleproud moment, right?
Yes, yes, I love that song, Ilove that.
They know it.
But I do feel like you know atsome point, if we want a
different saying, I'm open andfor listeners, if you guys have
(35:28):
any great ideas, I'm open.
We're open to feedback and ifyou want to be part of shaping
our journey and how this evolves, we want it to just unfold
organically, absolutely, andhave it impact you and be very
useful for you and your life andyour growth.
So on that note for now.
Cheers to good karma.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It is closing time.
Thank you for listening to thisentire podcast.
I hope this episode has leftyou feeling curious and inspired
.
This podcast is intended tocreate expansion in your life
through unique stories andshared experiences, and if you
enjoyed today's episode, I havea request.
(36:08):
I'd like to ask you to sharethis podcast with your friends
and family.
I bet they'd enjoy it just asmuch as you have.
And, if you found value, pleaseshare this on your social media
outlets.
That is good karma in action.
My friends, all right, it isnow closing time.
Cheers to good karma and thepower to choose joy.
If you like this, tell yourfriends.
(36:31):
Thanks for listening.
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