December 27, 2023 • 24 mins
Join Lisa & April as they share what they've learned the past 6 months as a partnership grew and evolved.
Bringing on a partner can feel intimidating, so Lisa & April share intimate details to help you decide if a partnership is right for you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Paradigm you Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're listening to the Paradigm you Podcast.
You're about to starttransforming your life by
growing your mind and expandingyour paradigms.
Here we'll cover real lifetopics, just like the stuff
you'd share with a good friend.
This podcast will serve uptopics that weigh on our hearts
and keep us up at night, whetherit's navigating parenthood and
becoming an adult, or wayfinding, personal development, marriage
and money.
You, my friend, are in theright place.
(00:27):
I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All right, welcome to the Paradigm you Podcast.
Lisa and I are here today toround out 2023, as we reflect on
how our partnership has comefull circle in the past six
months.
You know we started out aboutsix months ago, about halfway
through 2023.
But, quite frankly, we startedthis journey far sooner or far
(00:52):
longer than in what was it Juneor July, Lisa.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, we kicked off, I think officially in June
.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, but this has been coming for a while and
brewing for a while, so itwasn't a surprise when we were
ready to go.
It was go time.
But on today's episode, we wantto share with you, our
listeners, all of you, allaround the world.
Lisa, can we actually just do ashout out?
Yes, we have some really,really dedicated listeners in
(01:23):
some amazing countries allaround the world and I just want
to say thank you to everybodywho's listening.
It's so fun to see and to lookup some of these towns and
countries.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, absolutely.
We are so grateful for youlisteners and please keep
listening because on my bucketlist moving forward, I really do
think we need to like traveland take this on the road.
That'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
All right.
So on this week's podcast, weare going to end the year on a
high note, and that isreflecting on where our
partnership hit, the journeywhere we've gotten.
So, lisa, tell me a little bitabout what do you think when you
reflect on our partnership,what are your thoughts?
What are your?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
reflections, so many great thoughts and reflections,
but you know, the first realmain takeaway that comes to mind
is just the big fear of ruiningour friendship on any level.
It just was something that I wasadamant that I did not want to
(02:28):
have happen, and you're such animportant person in my life
personally and it was soexciting, as you've already
mentioned, that we've known thatwe were going to work together
at some point in our life.
We just weren't clear on when.
So when the opportunitypresented itself, it seemed like
, yep, absolutely, let's justkind of clear the air and make
(02:49):
sure we are good, because numberone priority is always going to
be my friendship with you.
So you know, and I think that'sa common theme that people have
, especially solopreneurs, othercoaches, consultants,
freelancers there's so manygreat opportunities to partner,
to expand, to have communitywith someone on a regular basis
(03:12):
and not just always go it alone.
But I do think there's a bigfear attached to it, and for us
to be able to recognize that andequally start working through
that in hindsight was superempowering and, dare I say,
almost laughable now, because Ifeel like it's brought us closer
.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if our
listeners have some of that fearas well.
You know, for years I've hadthat fear with partnerships.
Years ago, actually, I hadgotten the feedback or the
advice don't partner withsomebody unless you absolutely
have to, and I find thatinteresting.
(03:52):
Yeah, that was, you know, earlyon in my first business goes
and you know, for the longesttime I really fought that and
then what happened was quite afew years ago I found the
opportunity to partner with myfirst investment partnership and
we did that strategicallybecause we each brought
(04:13):
different, unique things to thetable, and I think what I've
learned is that when you findthose right people that bring
unique things, that complimentthe other person, it's a game
changer.
You can go so much farther andfaster and bigger and better
that it just changes everything,and I feel like that was the
(04:35):
same for us.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Absolutely, and I would.
I would also say that you can,by extension of what you shared
you, you can make a biggerimpact on the people you serve
and on the world in general, andthat, I think, is what's so
exciting for me.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I won't lie to our listeners.
It's been a learning curve,especially for the two of us,
because we we did have such abeautiful relationship prior to
deciding to partner.
We did.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Wait, where are you going with this?
Well, we did, but you're makingit sound like we don't anymore.
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I totally, I love you .
I'm so joking with you.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Now you're getting in my head.
You should see your face.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm like wait what?
But no, honestly, you know whatI think is the coolest part,
lisa, is that we've been able toshine a light on where the
other one excels.
And also I don't know if youcan say the same, but I know for
me it's been really, really abeautiful gift to have somebody
who I respect and I adore, and Ithink is brilliant to call me
(05:39):
out on my crap.
Yeah, because when you're asolopreneur, when you're working
on things on your own, you canhide in that or get lost in it.
But when you have somebody whoholds you accountable and can
call you out and be like hold on, yeah, yeah, are you showing up
as your best version ofyourself?
Ooh, you can't hide from that.
(05:59):
I can't hide from you.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
No, no, you can try, and absolutely vice versa.
I do think, going into apartnership, it is critical to
have some of these foundationalquestions and really vet each
other out, based on what yousaid before.
But I do believe that is partof what has always made our
relationship great and we'reseeing it become very fruitful
(06:22):
on the business side, which is,we can ask each other the hard
questions and it's not personalfor us, right Like I don't take
it personally when you call meout on stuff, I think, while she
loves me enough to call me outto let me grow, and that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh, I do love you enough to let you grow.
It's been really fun.
You know, listeners, I will saythat this is probably more of a
vulnerable and intimateconversation and podcast than
we've for some of the other ones, because we're really pulling
back the curtain and we're beinghonest with you about the
adventures and the challengesand everything in between that
(07:04):
we've navigated for the past sixmonths.
And, interestingly, you know,we asked you on one of the
previous episodes who did youintend to be when you started
2023?
And how are you rounding outthe year?
And it's it's fun to askourselves those exact same
questions.
(07:24):
We don't just speak to you andthen say, good luck, you guys
got to figure this out.
We're walking alongside you onthis journey, and one of the
things that I had set myintentions on at the beginning
of this year was to align myselfwith people that I could
collaborate with to help me growand step into that next level
of myself.
And boy, I will tell you, itwas terribly intimidating when
(07:49):
Lisa and I decided to sign on todo this together, and we're
still working through a lot ofthe unknowns and we're still
figuring out a lot of things,but I can tell you that, with
open communication and alsoknowing what you want out of the
relationship and alsocelebrating what you can bring
to the relationship, it's beenreally fun and the coolest part
(08:12):
just really quick and then Iwill totally hand it over to you
.
But the coolest part, you guys,is I get to see this beautifully
brilliant woman shining sobright.
I get to watch her speaking topeople in our Elevate Group
coaching cohort and justwitnessing her amazing skill
(08:33):
sets, and that, I think, hasprobably been my favorite thing.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You are amazing and you're going to make me cry.
Thank you for that.
I'm receiving it all andequally, it's been amazing for
me to sit back and just see howamazing you are with strategy
and coaching and connecting withpeople.
You have this deep innateability that you clearly have
(09:01):
honed through years and years oftraining and expertise and it's
so cool to see how thatradiates and just the frequency
and the energy that you bring.
So I appreciate everything youbring and I equally feel like
I'm reflecting you right, like Ifeel like we got some energetic
(09:22):
reflection going on here.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
You know one of the otherthings.
If you are listening and you'relike, ooh, maybe on 2024, maybe
that's my year to partner andto link my harness with someone
so I can go farther and fasterand have a bigger impact than I
could if I was on my own, here'swhat I can tell you.
(09:45):
You have to know yourself andyou have to know where you want
to go and what you want to do.
But, equally, one of the coolgifts that I think was
unexpected for me was thisopportunity to lean on each
other.
When life gets hard, life getsbusy, you know, when you're
going alone, the buck stops withyou, and so for us, we have
(10:11):
young kids.
So if we have a kid that'shomesick, for example, or if we
have something that happens inour personal life, if we were
doing this on our own,everything would pause, yeah,
but when we link our harnessesand we can lean on each other,
it allows us to keep going.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
You were talking about white space the other day.
And I think this partnershiphas also created that.
Do you want to talk a littlebit about that?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, and I would say that's one of the biggest
takeaways.
As you were, you transitionedus into it so beautifully this
idea of white space and inmarketing language, white space
is a term that's used especiallyamongst if you're selling to
female females at all, or femaleentrepreneurs, white space
becomes a critical component toyour overall design because, as
(11:04):
women, we like things that havea little white space.
But there's also this idea youcan take that philosophy and
apply it, overlay it in yourlife or in your business and
really just allow for space.
Not everything needs to bescheduled back to back to back
to back to back.
You don't have to cram more in,and I felt like, to a lot of
(11:26):
degree, that's what's happeningwith solopreneurs.
People are wanting to do moreand be more and grow more, and
that's amazing, and I thinkthere's so much dreams and
visions that can be actualized.
But I do believe in what I'veseen with our partnership and,
equally, just taking acompletely different approach to
(11:47):
business through ourpartnership.
White space, this idea ofallowing yourself to breathe,
allowing yourself to have alittle bit of extra time, really
is what's going to catapult youforward.
It's learning how to do lessbetter.
It's learning how to be in thismessy middle.
We don't have all the answersfor every single piece of the
(12:11):
direction of the business movingforward, but we have the
critical ones and we're in itand we're figuring it out right.
We're in the arena, as BrenéBrown likes to talk about, and
we're fighting to figure it outtogether.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So this idea of white space and really taking action
to find the answers, I find justso refreshing to have, to your
point, a partner alongside youknow, Leigh, it's cool that you
say that, because I don't knowif you remember this, but a
couple years ago and gosh, Iwouldn't be surprised if it was
(12:47):
like 2019, maybe 2020, I was ina rough spot and at the end of
the year I said I'm going to goon a little quiet retreat on my
own and I am going to just mapout my whole year, and so I had
bought a big calendar for thewhole year.
(13:07):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yes, I just love you and your calendars.
It's just so much joy.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, I do.
Yeah, and what I the cool partwas I think I don't remember if
we had zoomed together or whatwe had done, but I feel like we
were kind of along the samejourney or we were kind of
mapping out our year together inparallel, because we weren't
partners back then.
But one of the cool parts thatI think you were the one who
(13:35):
actually nudged me to do this,because I was at a season of
life where I needed to do a lotof healing, yeah, but I was also
a recovering overdoer and I wastrying to figure out where did
this?
how does this all work?
And so I very clearly remembermapping out on my year calendar,
actually putting posts oncertain days and saying this is
(13:58):
the day that I'm going to go toReiki, this is the day I'm going
to just take a personal day.
And I did that for the wholeyear and I knew like, ok, well,
for Reiki, for example, I liketo do that at least once a
quarter.
So I went through the wholeyear and picked out those days
in December for the next yearand I will tell you, having the
(14:21):
white space carved out.
For the whole year, I didvacation days, I did everything
that allowed me.
When I look back at thatfollowing year, it must have
been the winter of 2020, becauseit was 2021.
I had so much more productivetime and so many more things
(14:42):
that I was able to accomplish,and I still was able to guard
all of that downtime, and sothat's so, yeah, and that was
all you.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Oh well, I'm so glad you know.
I think what's so interestingabout us is you, as you've
shared with listeners over theyears, or, from that overdoer
perspective, I'm definitely theover-thinker Right.
So like I will sit and I willthink and think and think and
think and think as opposed todoing.
And so for me, I had a my whitespace.
(15:12):
That I had created was, Ibelieve it was the winter or the
fall of 2018.
And I took a weekend away upnorth and it was just me and
just the north woods in fall.
There's no Wi-Fi and I can'tremember if I shared with
listeners that's kind of when Ihad an identity crisis in a
(15:32):
grocery store because I didn'teven know what to buy, because I
was only buying for myself.
But I'm sharing this with thelisteners because I created
white space, time away just tobe alone with me in the woods
for an entire weekend, andthat's where things started to
really open up for me with thedirection of my life moving
(15:56):
forward.
But carving that out on a dailybasis, especially for the
overdoers, like you did, april,is such a great, great approach.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, thank you.
You know we obviously we wantyou to be thoughtful and
intentional with how you'retaking action, but sometimes
taking action includes carvingout that time and guarding it
really really well, because itcan be easy, especially if
you're not in partnership, tojust say I'll just do this, I'll
(16:26):
just take this on.
I met somebody this past weekwhere they're an online
entrepreneur and they work everynight after their kids are put
to bed until this midnight.
They said, yep, I work anytimeI can get my kids to bed.
I just I stay up as late as Ineed to and I usually just fall
asleep like working out stuffand I'm like cool, my friend,
(16:49):
you might burn out pretty quickif you keep going at that pace.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I've been there.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I've done that.
But you know, on the oppositeside of taking this white space
and carving it out and guardingit, I think it's also important
to take action intentionally,and that's something that I'm
really proud of us the past fewmonths that we did.
You know, we were just kind ofgetting started, as in our
(17:14):
partnership, and we knew what wewanted to do, we knew the
impact that we wanted to make,but did we have all the answers?
No way.
But I can tell you we found alot more answers by taking
action and getting started thanjust over sinking it.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Absolutely.
I vividly remember having ameeting with you and we were
both just like we got to justjump in because and we knew that
we knew we needed to just jumpin to find more answers.
And I do want to circle back totaking a little bit of white
space, because as entrepreneursespecially, or as moms who are
(17:52):
just so extra busy this time ofyear you know we need to start
reframing and owning the factand this is something that I
love about how we are operatingour business that the powerful
pause, taking that downtime,taking that white space, is an
action for your business or foryour life goals, whatever they
(18:12):
are.
And I don't know where in ourculture, the hustle and grind
and where that narrative tookover, as if to say that's the
only way to do life and besuccessful.
Because we're here to tell youthat's actually not.
And, to your point, april, it'sthe fastest way to burn out.
So, coming into the partnershipand going, wait a second, I've
(18:36):
burned out, I've burned mybusiness down at least twice.
I don't want to be that personanymore.
So who's this new person, who'sthis new Lisa going to be that
we can intentionally build, makeimpact and all the things we
want to accomplish.
But first and foremost, put therelationship center focus and
(18:57):
take action without burning outand putting those powerful
pauses in the middle.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know, something else that I think it's important
that we share is thatoftentimes, when we come
together for team meetings andwe're working on a project, or
we're working on forecasting orwhatever it is, I feel like the
theme is how can we make thiseasy?
Yes, it's such a great question.
How can you make whateveryou're working on easy?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yes, what's the easiest way to accomplish what
we're trying to do?
Yeah, how can this nextdecision be easy?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
We come back to that question all the time and you
know, it's something that Ithink I bump up against.
I probably fight, I guess maybemore than you, because I'm like
no, we have to do it this way,this is how it's supposed to be
done.
Quote, unquote supposed to.
And you know when you weresaying about.
You don't know where the hustlecame from and how important
(19:57):
it's been to take this powerfulpause that we've been advocating
for.
It's cool that you say that,because years ago, when this
podcast first started, you wereone of my first interviews.
You remember that and you weretwo, yeah, and you were talking
about the powerful pause thatyou were taking in that moment.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Oh, that's wild.
I'm gonna have to re-listen tothat.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
It was cool, but that was the first time that I had
ever really thought about itfrom that lens.
And now, years later, we'retalking about it and we're
seeing the impact that taking apause, taking care of yourself,
recalibrating, re-groundingyourself and your vision,
grounding your nervous system,all of it that all has a pivotal
(20:43):
impact on your business,absolutely.
We just want to advocate foryou to do it, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
It's been such a great year, such a great six
months together, six months, sixmonths doing this, and I feel
like, you know, we're justgetting started and I'm so
excited for what we've learnedand how we're, you know, equally
adapting and the intentionaldecisions we're making for the
(21:13):
new year.
So it's all just such a greatenergy, great time.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It is yeah, and one of the things that we've decided
for this podcast is we'd liketo create more white space for
our listeners.
Yes, Because it's easy to getcaught up in the doing, and
sometimes that doing even is ooh.
I got to stay up to date onlistening to all the podcasts
for people.
I need to, you know, be readingand collecting all of the
(21:41):
content that's out and availableto me.
But because we love you so muchand we respect all of our
listeners and all of ourfollowers, we actually have
decided that we'd like to createmore white space for you in the
new year.
We are excited to roll that outand explain a little bit more
about that next year.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Ooh that's going to be great.
I'm so excited that's going tobe such a pivotal shift for
everyone to not only experiencebut also embrace and apply in
your own life and business.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, we're very excited to roll this out for you
guys.
So, on that note, I think it'simportant that we invite you to
take some time over the next fewdays, as you're wrapping up
2023, to reflect on your year,if you haven't done so, and ask
yourself what went well, whatare the things that I'd like to
recalibrate and what are thelessons that I learned this year
(22:34):
, because that's what we'reworking on right now.
We're paying attention to whatare those lessons that we had
the opportunity to learn, andhow will we take all of this
information and overlay it intothe new year?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
2024 is really a year of taking action, and so we're
excited to be on that journeywith you.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
On that note, we want to just say thank you.
Thank you for a wonderful year,thank you for supporting Lisa
and I as we have navigated thispartnership and thank you for
supporting this podcast, as it'staken a completely new role and
a new identity.
The second half of 2023.
And we want to thank you inadvance for going with us on
(23:18):
this journey of 2024.
I think it's going to be anincredibly beautiful and wild
ride and we are so grateful tohave you alongside us.
On that note, it is closingtime.
Cheers to good karma.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're listening to the Paradigm you Podcast.
You're about to starttransforming your life by
growing your mind and expandingyour paradigms.
Here we'll cover real lifetopics, just like the stuff
you'd share with a good friend.
This podcast will serve uptopics that weigh on our hearts
and keep us up at night, whetherit's navigating parenthood and
becoming an adult, or wayfinding, personal development, marriage
and money.
You, my friend, are in theright place.
(00:27):
I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All right, welcome to the Paradigm you Podcast.
Lisa and I are here today toround out 2023, as we reflect on
how our partnership has comefull circle in the past six
months.
You know we started out aboutsix months ago, about halfway
through 2023.
But, quite frankly, we startedthis journey far sooner or far
(00:52):
longer than in what was it Juneor July, Lisa.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, we kicked off, I think officially in June
.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, but this has been coming for a while and
brewing for a while, so itwasn't a surprise when we were
ready to go.
It was go time.
But on today's episode, we wantto share with you, our
listeners, all of you, allaround the world.
Lisa, can we actually just do ashout out?
Yes, we have some really,really dedicated listeners in
(01:23):
some amazing countries allaround the world and I just want
to say thank you to everybodywho's listening.
It's so fun to see and to lookup some of these towns and
countries.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, absolutely.
We are so grateful for youlisteners and please keep
listening because on my bucketlist moving forward, I really do
think we need to like traveland take this on the road.
That'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
All right.
So on this week's podcast, weare going to end the year on a
high note, and that isreflecting on where our
partnership hit, the journeywhere we've gotten.
So, lisa, tell me a little bitabout what do you think when you
reflect on our partnership,what are your thoughts?
What are your?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
reflections, so many great thoughts and reflections,
but you know, the first realmain takeaway that comes to mind
is just the big fear of ruiningour friendship on any level.
It just was something that I wasadamant that I did not want to
(02:28):
have happen, and you're such animportant person in my life
personally and it was soexciting, as you've already
mentioned, that we've known thatwe were going to work together
at some point in our life.
We just weren't clear on when.
So when the opportunitypresented itself, it seemed like
, yep, absolutely, let's justkind of clear the air and make
(02:49):
sure we are good, because numberone priority is always going to
be my friendship with you.
So you know, and I think that'sa common theme that people have
, especially solopreneurs, othercoaches, consultants,
freelancers there's so manygreat opportunities to partner,
to expand, to have communitywith someone on a regular basis
(03:12):
and not just always go it alone.
But I do think there's a bigfear attached to it, and for us
to be able to recognize that andequally start working through
that in hindsight was superempowering and, dare I say,
almost laughable now, because Ifeel like it's brought us closer
.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if our
listeners have some of that fearas well.
You know, for years I've hadthat fear with partnerships.
Years ago, actually, I hadgotten the feedback or the
advice don't partner withsomebody unless you absolutely
have to, and I find thatinteresting.
(03:52):
Yeah, that was, you know, earlyon in my first business goes
and you know, for the longesttime I really fought that and
then what happened was quite afew years ago I found the
opportunity to partner with myfirst investment partnership and
we did that strategicallybecause we each brought
(04:13):
different, unique things to thetable, and I think what I've
learned is that when you findthose right people that bring
unique things, that complimentthe other person, it's a game
changer.
You can go so much farther andfaster and bigger and better
that it just changes everything,and I feel like that was the
(04:35):
same for us.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Absolutely, and I would.
I would also say that you can,by extension of what you shared
you, you can make a biggerimpact on the people you serve
and on the world in general, andthat, I think, is what's so
exciting for me.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I won't lie to our listeners.
It's been a learning curve,especially for the two of us,
because we we did have such abeautiful relationship prior to
deciding to partner.
We did.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Wait, where are you going with this?
Well, we did, but you're makingit sound like we don't anymore.
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I totally, I love you .
I'm so joking with you.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Now you're getting in my head.
You should see your face.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm like wait what?
But no, honestly, you know whatI think is the coolest part,
lisa, is that we've been able toshine a light on where the
other one excels.
And also I don't know if youcan say the same, but I know for
me it's been really, really abeautiful gift to have somebody
who I respect and I adore, and Ithink is brilliant to call me
(05:39):
out on my crap.
Yeah, because when you're asolopreneur, when you're working
on things on your own, you canhide in that or get lost in it.
But when you have somebody whoholds you accountable and can
call you out and be like hold on, yeah, yeah, are you showing up
as your best version ofyourself?
Ooh, you can't hide from that.
(05:59):
I can't hide from you.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
No, no, you can try, and absolutely vice versa.
I do think, going into apartnership, it is critical to
have some of these foundationalquestions and really vet each
other out, based on what yousaid before.
But I do believe that is partof what has always made our
relationship great and we'reseeing it become very fruitful
(06:22):
on the business side, which is,we can ask each other the hard
questions and it's not personalfor us, right Like I don't take
it personally when you call meout on stuff, I think, while she
loves me enough to call me outto let me grow, and that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh, I do love you enough to let you grow.
It's been really fun.
You know, listeners, I will saythat this is probably more of a
vulnerable and intimateconversation and podcast than
we've for some of the other ones, because we're really pulling
back the curtain and we're beinghonest with you about the
adventures and the challengesand everything in between that
(07:04):
we've navigated for the past sixmonths.
And, interestingly, you know,we asked you on one of the
previous episodes who did youintend to be when you started
2023?
And how are you rounding outthe year?
And it's it's fun to askourselves those exact same
questions.
(07:24):
We don't just speak to you andthen say, good luck, you guys
got to figure this out.
We're walking alongside you onthis journey, and one of the
things that I had set myintentions on at the beginning
of this year was to align myselfwith people that I could
collaborate with to help me growand step into that next level
of myself.
And boy, I will tell you, itwas terribly intimidating when
(07:49):
Lisa and I decided to sign on todo this together, and we're
still working through a lot ofthe unknowns and we're still
figuring out a lot of things,but I can tell you that, with
open communication and alsoknowing what you want out of the
relationship and alsocelebrating what you can bring
to the relationship, it's beenreally fun and the coolest part
(08:12):
just really quick and then Iwill totally hand it over to you
.
But the coolest part, you guys,is I get to see this beautifully
brilliant woman shining sobright.
I get to watch her speaking topeople in our Elevate Group
coaching cohort and justwitnessing her amazing skill
(08:33):
sets, and that, I think, hasprobably been my favorite thing.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You are amazing and you're going to make me cry.
Thank you for that.
I'm receiving it all andequally, it's been amazing for
me to sit back and just see howamazing you are with strategy
and coaching and connecting withpeople.
You have this deep innateability that you clearly have
(09:01):
honed through years and years oftraining and expertise and it's
so cool to see how thatradiates and just the frequency
and the energy that you bring.
So I appreciate everything youbring and I equally feel like
I'm reflecting you right, like Ifeel like we got some energetic
(09:22):
reflection going on here.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
You know one of the otherthings.
If you are listening and you'relike, ooh, maybe on 2024, maybe
that's my year to partner andto link my harness with someone
so I can go farther and fasterand have a bigger impact than I
could if I was on my own, here'swhat I can tell you.
(09:45):
You have to know yourself andyou have to know where you want
to go and what you want to do.
But, equally, one of the coolgifts that I think was
unexpected for me was thisopportunity to lean on each
other.
When life gets hard, life getsbusy, you know, when you're
going alone, the buck stops withyou, and so for us, we have
(10:11):
young kids.
So if we have a kid that'shomesick, for example, or if we
have something that happens inour personal life, if we were
doing this on our own,everything would pause, yeah,
but when we link our harnessesand we can lean on each other,
it allows us to keep going.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
You were talking about white space the other day.
And I think this partnershiphas also created that.
Do you want to talk a littlebit about that?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, and I would say that's one of the biggest
takeaways.
As you were, you transitionedus into it so beautifully this
idea of white space and inmarketing language, white space
is a term that's used especiallyamongst if you're selling to
female females at all, or femaleentrepreneurs, white space
becomes a critical component toyour overall design because, as
(11:04):
women, we like things that havea little white space.
But there's also this idea youcan take that philosophy and
apply it, overlay it in yourlife or in your business and
really just allow for space.
Not everything needs to bescheduled back to back to back
to back to back.
You don't have to cram more in,and I felt like, to a lot of
(11:26):
degree, that's what's happeningwith solopreneurs.
People are wanting to do moreand be more and grow more, and
that's amazing, and I thinkthere's so much dreams and
visions that can be actualized.
But I do believe in what I'veseen with our partnership and,
equally, just taking acompletely different approach to
(11:47):
business through ourpartnership.
White space, this idea ofallowing yourself to breathe,
allowing yourself to have alittle bit of extra time, really
is what's going to catapult youforward.
It's learning how to do lessbetter.
It's learning how to be in thismessy middle.
We don't have all the answersfor every single piece of the
(12:11):
direction of the business movingforward, but we have the
critical ones and we're in itand we're figuring it out right.
We're in the arena, as BrenéBrown likes to talk about, and
we're fighting to figure it outtogether.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So this idea of white space and really taking action
to find the answers, I find justso refreshing to have, to your
point, a partner alongside youknow, Leigh, it's cool that you
say that, because I don't knowif you remember this, but a
couple years ago and gosh, Iwouldn't be surprised if it was
(12:47):
like 2019, maybe 2020, I was ina rough spot and at the end of
the year I said I'm going to goon a little quiet retreat on my
own and I am going to just mapout my whole year, and so I had
bought a big calendar for thewhole year.
(13:07):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yes, I just love you and your calendars.
It's just so much joy.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, I do.
Yeah, and what I the cool partwas I think I don't remember if
we had zoomed together or whatwe had done, but I feel like we
were kind of along the samejourney or we were kind of
mapping out our year together inparallel, because we weren't
partners back then.
But one of the cool parts thatI think you were the one who
(13:35):
actually nudged me to do this,because I was at a season of
life where I needed to do a lotof healing, yeah, but I was also
a recovering overdoer and I wastrying to figure out where did
this?
how does this all work?
And so I very clearly remembermapping out on my year calendar,
actually putting posts oncertain days and saying this is
(13:58):
the day that I'm going to go toReiki, this is the day I'm going
to just take a personal day.
And I did that for the wholeyear and I knew like, ok, well,
for Reiki, for example, I liketo do that at least once a
quarter.
So I went through the wholeyear and picked out those days
in December for the next yearand I will tell you, having the
(14:21):
white space carved out.
For the whole year, I didvacation days, I did everything
that allowed me.
When I look back at thatfollowing year, it must have
been the winter of 2020, becauseit was 2021.
I had so much more productivetime and so many more things
(14:42):
that I was able to accomplish,and I still was able to guard
all of that downtime, and sothat's so, yeah, and that was
all you.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Oh well, I'm so glad you know.
I think what's so interestingabout us is you, as you've
shared with listeners over theyears, or, from that overdoer
perspective, I'm definitely theover-thinker Right.
So like I will sit and I willthink and think and think and
think and think as opposed todoing.
And so for me, I had a my whitespace.
(15:12):
That I had created was, Ibelieve it was the winter or the
fall of 2018.
And I took a weekend away upnorth and it was just me and
just the north woods in fall.
There's no Wi-Fi and I can'tremember if I shared with
listeners that's kind of when Ihad an identity crisis in a
(15:32):
grocery store because I didn'teven know what to buy, because I
was only buying for myself.
But I'm sharing this with thelisteners because I created
white space, time away just tobe alone with me in the woods
for an entire weekend, andthat's where things started to
really open up for me with thedirection of my life moving
(15:56):
forward.
But carving that out on a dailybasis, especially for the
overdoers, like you did, april,is such a great, great approach.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, thank you.
You know we obviously we wantyou to be thoughtful and
intentional with how you'retaking action, but sometimes
taking action includes carvingout that time and guarding it
really really well, because itcan be easy, especially if
you're not in partnership, tojust say I'll just do this, I'll
(16:26):
just take this on.
I met somebody this past weekwhere they're an online
entrepreneur and they work everynight after their kids are put
to bed until this midnight.
They said, yep, I work anytimeI can get my kids to bed.
I just I stay up as late as Ineed to and I usually just fall
asleep like working out stuffand I'm like cool, my friend,
(16:49):
you might burn out pretty quickif you keep going at that pace.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I've been there.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I've done that.
But you know, on the oppositeside of taking this white space
and carving it out and guardingit, I think it's also important
to take action intentionally,and that's something that I'm
really proud of us the past fewmonths that we did.
You know, we were just kind ofgetting started, as in our
(17:14):
partnership, and we knew what wewanted to do, we knew the
impact that we wanted to make,but did we have all the answers?
No way.
But I can tell you we found alot more answers by taking
action and getting started thanjust over sinking it.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Absolutely.
I vividly remember having ameeting with you and we were
both just like we got to justjump in because and we knew that
we knew we needed to just jumpin to find more answers.
And I do want to circle back totaking a little bit of white
space, because as entrepreneursespecially, or as moms who are
(17:52):
just so extra busy this time ofyear you know we need to start
reframing and owning the factand this is something that I
love about how we are operatingour business that the powerful
pause, taking that downtime,taking that white space, is an
action for your business or foryour life goals, whatever they
(18:12):
are.
And I don't know where in ourculture, the hustle and grind
and where that narrative tookover, as if to say that's the
only way to do life and besuccessful.
Because we're here to tell youthat's actually not.
And, to your point, april, it'sthe fastest way to burn out.
So, coming into the partnershipand going, wait a second, I've
(18:36):
burned out, I've burned mybusiness down at least twice.
I don't want to be that personanymore.
So who's this new person, who'sthis new Lisa going to be that
we can intentionally build, makeimpact and all the things we
want to accomplish.
But first and foremost, put therelationship center focus and
(18:57):
take action without burning outand putting those powerful
pauses in the middle.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know, something else that I think it's important
that we share is thatoftentimes, when we come
together for team meetings andwe're working on a project, or
we're working on forecasting orwhatever it is, I feel like the
theme is how can we make thiseasy?
Yes, it's such a great question.
How can you make whateveryou're working on easy?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yes, what's the easiest way to accomplish what
we're trying to do?
Yeah, how can this nextdecision be easy?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
We come back to that question all the time and you
know, it's something that Ithink I bump up against.
I probably fight, I guess maybemore than you, because I'm like
no, we have to do it this way,this is how it's supposed to be
done.
Quote, unquote supposed to.
And you know when you weresaying about.
You don't know where the hustlecame from and how important
(19:57):
it's been to take this powerfulpause that we've been advocating
for.
It's cool that you say that,because years ago, when this
podcast first started, you wereone of my first interviews.
You remember that and you weretwo, yeah, and you were talking
about the powerful pause thatyou were taking in that moment.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Oh, that's wild.
I'm gonna have to re-listen tothat.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
It was cool, but that was the first time that I had
ever really thought about itfrom that lens.
And now, years later, we'retalking about it and we're
seeing the impact that taking apause, taking care of yourself,
recalibrating, re-groundingyourself and your vision,
grounding your nervous system,all of it that all has a pivotal
(20:43):
impact on your business,absolutely.
We just want to advocate foryou to do it, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
It's been such a great year, such a great six
months together, six months, sixmonths doing this, and I feel
like, you know, we're justgetting started and I'm so
excited for what we've learnedand how we're, you know, equally
adapting and the intentionaldecisions we're making for the
(21:13):
new year.
So it's all just such a greatenergy, great time.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It is yeah, and one of the things that we've decided
for this podcast is we'd liketo create more white space for
our listeners.
Yes, Because it's easy to getcaught up in the doing, and
sometimes that doing even is ooh.
I got to stay up to date onlistening to all the podcasts
for people.
I need to, you know, be readingand collecting all of the
(21:41):
content that's out and availableto me.
But because we love you so muchand we respect all of our
listeners and all of ourfollowers, we actually have
decided that we'd like to createmore white space for you in the
new year.
We are excited to roll that outand explain a little bit more
about that next year.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Ooh that's going to be great.
I'm so excited that's going tobe such a pivotal shift for
everyone to not only experiencebut also embrace and apply in
your own life and business.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, we're very excited to roll this out for you
guys.
So, on that note, I think it'simportant that we invite you to
take some time over the next fewdays, as you're wrapping up
2023, to reflect on your year,if you haven't done so, and ask
yourself what went well, whatare the things that I'd like to
recalibrate and what are thelessons that I learned this year
(22:34):
, because that's what we'reworking on right now.
We're paying attention to whatare those lessons that we had
the opportunity to learn, andhow will we take all of this
information and overlay it intothe new year?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
2024 is really a year of taking action, and so we're
excited to be on that journeywith you.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
On that note, we want to just say thank you.
Thank you for a wonderful year,thank you for supporting Lisa
and I as we have navigated thispartnership and thank you for
supporting this podcast, as it'staken a completely new role and
a new identity.
The second half of 2023.
And we want to thank you inadvance for going with us on
(23:18):
this journey of 2024.
I think it's going to be anincredibly beautiful and wild
ride and we are so grateful tohave you alongside us.
On that note, it is closingtime.
Cheers to good karma.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Thank you for listening to this entire podcast
.
I hope this episode has leftyou feeling curious and inspired
.
This podcast is intended tocreate expansion in your life
through unique stories andshared experiences, and if you
enjoy today's episode, I have arequest.
I'd like to ask you to sharethis podcast with your friends
and family.
(23:52):
I bet they'd enjoy it just asmuch as you have.
And, if you found value, pleaseshare this on your social media
outlets.
That is good karma in action,my friends.
All right, it is now closingtime.
Cheers to good karma and thepower to choose joy.
If you like this, tell yourfriends.
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