June 6, 2024 • 51 mins
In this captivating episode, join our hosts as they delve into their initial encounters with the paranormal and extraterrestrial. From childhood fascinations sparked by sci-fi classics to spine-chilling ghost hunts, discover the stories that ignited their passion for the unknown.
Fernando recalls his deep-rooted interest in extraterrestrial life, differentiating it from the paranormal, and shares intriguing tales from a sci-fi enthusiast's perspective. The discussion transitions to eerie experiences in haunted locations, including a mysterious park and the iconic Queen Mary ship.
Explore the fascinating intersection of ghostly apparitions and alien encounters, as the hosts debate the nature of these phenomena. With personal anecdotes and a dive into haunted places, this episode promises to keep you on the edge of your seat.
Join us as we navigate the realms of the unexplained, where science fiction meets paranormal reality. Don't miss out on this thrilling journey into the mysteries that lie beyond our understanding.
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Music.
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What's happening? You know, sometimes you forget why you get into this stuff.
Like there has to be something that triggered the fascination with the paranormal.
Right. When was your first, Fernando, when was your first fascination with the paranormal?
My first fascination with the paranormal, I got to say,
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I've always made that stipulation that my fascination with the paranormal,
I shouldn't even call it paranormal because I don't think that like extraterrestrials are paranormal. Okay.
It's a matter of fact. I think it's a matter of fact, but I also,
people put that in the same category, in the same subject.
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Yeah. You know, as say ghosts, paranormal, you know, spirits, that sort of thing.
And so they put them in the same category as in UFOs or extraterrestrials.
Kind of like aliens in sci-fi. Yeah, exactly. It's like it's sci-fi,
which means science fiction. Science fiction, right. But in fact-
Bitch, it's fiction. It's fiction. Yeah. I mean, it's not fiction.
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I'm sorry. It's science fact that I believe that these beings come from another
planet, another world, another dimension or whatever.
And they simply have technology that we do not understand.
Yeah. So people will automatically say, oh, hey, man, this is paranormal just
because you don't understand it.
Yeah. It's kind of like we've talked about this in this very podcast many,
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many times, where it's to the level of our comprehension today.
We'll say, oh, yeah, well, it's paranormal, whatever, because we don't understand the technology.
Just like hundreds and thousands of years ago, whatever tribes saw whatever,
and then they think they're gods because they didn't understand the technology.
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That's all it is. That's all it is. So as a kid, as a kid being a fan of sci-fi,
you know, sci-fi movies, Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica,
you know, it goes on and on.
Doctor Who. Yeah. It goes on and on and on.
I think that that started that spark where I was very interested in life on
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other planets, you know.
So this whole thing, it started when I was a kid. So sci-fi helped.
Oh yeah, sci-fi. Do you remember what that, when we went to go to the Alien
Con, we went to go see Eric Van Donaghan? Yeah, Eric Van Donaghan.
And he actually said, remember he said that there was a tribe in the South Pacific
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when the Americans landed there.
They were based there and they saw the ships come in, they saw the planes come in.
Right. And when they left, you know, the natives were kind of,
you know, they were kind of seeing all this new technology they'd never seen before. Right.
And years later, they went back to the island, the Americans,
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and saw that they had these, like.
Effigies yeah like airplanes made of
straw right and it's kind of like that's
how these people that we see now these things that
we can't explain that we've seen hieroglyphics carvings little statues that
might be what was around back then right you think pyramids are effigies of
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ships that were here before maybe
there's a lot of pyramid pyramid shaped ufos i mean you know i i I mean,
that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother, you know, we can,
we can do a whole episode on the pyramids. Oh yeah.
I just realized the other day that they were all covered in,
in, in, I don't know. Limestone.
Limestone. White limestone. And throughout the years people would steal it.
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They were just white. So when you see a picture of the pyramids back then,
they were all white. They were all white and smooth. And glowing.
Yeah. So. Which limestone is a conductor of energy or something like that.
Yeah. That's why we always had. And then also the rock that was used still has
a lot of, what's that crystal that we always have everywhere? The quartz.
So what's a big conductor? It's from a quarry. It's from a quartz quarry that's
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like, it was hundreds of miles away.
Hundreds. You know? When was your first fascination with the paranormal?
Paranormal-wise. Half.
Paranormal-wise, like I've always avoided ghosts. Yeah. Right?
Like ever since I was a kid. Your regular Scooby-Doo.
Well. Goo-goo-goo-goo. actually if you actually think about
it my obsession with scooby-doo was probably my first obsession
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with ghostly shit but scooby-doo was never
a ghost no but they would who's always some pervert
in a fucking mask but at the end of the day like i always avoided
i would have got away with the two it wasn't for these meddling kids but
like i always avoided it because i was always afraid of it
right my sisters would scare me and stuff like that but science
fiction wise or or alien wise it
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wasn't until i watched this movie called fire in the sky back in 93 1993
yeah where i was like oh shit the travis walton story yeah so that kind of got
me hooked on it and then i started like looking into like alien stuff right
and then yeah stupid it's a stupid like reference but see it makes sense because
look at right now you just named a movie.
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And anybody who's seen fire of the sky once it's not gonna be like you and i
right now that knew We knew the guy's name was Travis Walton. Travis Walton?
Yeah. We knew right away. Yeah. It got us.
It was that movie, and then there was an episode of Married With Children.
Which one? Where... Oh, the little alien takes his socks.
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Takes his socks for free. Now, you guys... Now, I'm sure, again,
we talked about aliens, but what I was trying to ask, what was your first ghostly obsession, Fernando?
Oh, okay. So, ghostly obsession.
So, again, this goes to, you know, when I say that they started putting the
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aliens in the same category as paranormal, even though I don't think so. Yeah.
Because they were put in the same category as ghosts and aliens,
you know, I always thought to myself, what if the ghosts we're looking at are
just actually aliens from another dimension that we can barely see?
So we're thinking, oh, my God, it's a ghost.
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But in fact, it's actually a living being on the same planet that we're on,
just in a different plane of existence.
And they're bleeding through. Through the veil? Through the veil, right.
And so we're like, oh, my God, it's a ghost. But what if it's not?
That's how I feel about fairies and leprechauns and gnomes and elves and aliens.
They're all the same thing because most aliens look like gnomes.
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I just watched this movie called Proximity.
There's scenes where the aliens seem to vanish, right?
But then this guy, they implant something in him so he gets to learn how to do it.
And basically what he's doing is he's going into another dimension at the same time.
So he's able to move around without being seen.
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Let's hold that. I want to come back to that. That's a great topic we need to
talk about. Hefty, what was your first ghostly?
Ghostly obsession? Yeah.
I would have to say it was probably The Omen when I watched the movie The Omen when I was a kid.
And I wasn't obsessed as I want to get to know it more.
I was more obsessed in how can I avoid ever running into demonic spirits.
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Things you know and then the irony is i would start learning
about demonic stuff to try to avoid it you know what i'm saying so i would scare
myself so i would be like i never put myself in this situation yeah you know
what i mean it makes a lot of sense i mean you you gotta you gotta do stuff
that you were prepping yeah that's what we all do it's like how do you not get shot.
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Right so don't play outside when you hear noise when you
hear fireworks yeah to uh to answer
your question because i know i just ramble and i ramble sometimes i apologize
but my actual you know no for real he does my
actual obsession my first ghostly obsession
or you know that sort of thing started when i was
a kid visiting mexico i was
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like maybe six you know and you know you go to mexico and your cousins and your
family over there the place where we would go is a little ranch at the base
of a mountain called el ojo de agua they had it's like going back in time they
had no No running water. Yeah. They had no electricity.
So everything was by candlelight. You know, super dark.
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I remember those trips to Mexico. Yeah, right? Super fucking dark.
And of course, everyone had stories about La Llorona, of course.
That's like the staple, you know, Mexican.
Yeah. But there were other stories. There were other stories about the devil
and there were these ghostly cats that would grow and scratch you.
Everybody had a devil room or a house where the devil lives.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I never had one of those. Fucking ranchos.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. I know. Allí vive el diablo.
We had a room in my grandma's house that we never wanted to go to,
but we never called it the devil room. I think it was George Lopez.
One of his first albums, he goes, everybody has a cocuy room.
It was a cocuy. I should run by.
My hair stood up right now, bro, just thinking about that. Well,
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it's funny that you said that, because I actually got goosebumps, too, thinking about,
One of the stories I heard in Mexico about the devil, you know,
that he would frequently be seen.
There was a pig pen. There was a guy, you know, a guy out there who was,
he was a recluse, you know, he kept to himself.
But he had pigs, you know. And a lot of people would say that he was the devil. Yeah. He himself.
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He's just a guy. Because of the filth, I guess. Yeah, you know, and he was quiet.
He didn't say a lot. You know, in Mexico, it's customary to greet strangers.
You pass by and you're like, buenos dias. Well, buenos dias.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Total strangers.
This man wouldn't greet anybody. He's all quiet. Yeah, he was very quiet.
Wouldn't greet anybody. But he had a lot of pigs.
And so they were saying some people said that sometimes at night,
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in the middle of the night, when the moon was full.
He's a devil. That the devil would walk on air on top of the pigs.
So he would walk not on the ground in the pig pen.
Right. Right, but he was walking on air on top of the pigs and like floating
on air. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of fucking, what's his name?
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Fucking Gooseberry. It reminds me of fucking the McAllisters when they would
tell fucking Kevin that the guy next door was killing people with the shovel.
He was putting salt on the fucking floor.
You think the thing with the pigs has to do with the whole split toe,
the split hoof animal thing?
Oh yeah, the hooves of the animal, which is a hybrid, which is the devil's a hybrid.
Yeah. Because he has the feet. Anyways, so, okay, that was your first time.
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Six years old. For me, I would say I have a lot because my mom was always fascinated with the paranormal.
And she would always tell the stories. I mean, that was our bedtime story was
like stories that she's experienced.
La señora came out of nowhere or se me pare. So, you know, we always had ghost stories.
But for me, the fascination into the, because from, I guess from when I was
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a kid all the way till I was.
When I was 19, it was fear. I knew about it. I knew stories,
but I wasn't fascinated with it.
Because till then, I was always like, don't fuck with that shit.
But when I was 19, we graduated from high school when we were 18.
And when I was 18, I was in college and I was fucking around.
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And my friend Roger and I would go hang out. Renee, my friend Renee.
And one day, we decided to do a short film.
We liked to shoot. you know we wanted to be filmmakers back then
i wanted to be a filmmaker and we shot this scary
movie which i don't know where the fuck the
film's at and we shot at this park called next
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to golden west college it's this
park that was fucking closed and it's all wilderness and
it was so foggy it looked fucking great on camera we used to have a high camera
video camera nice we shot this shit and as we're recording we notice we have
to put roger like in a scary mask and have him coming like it's a monster whatever
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we notice these little white things flying around the camera,
little balls of energy and what the fuck is that ball what is that and then
we start seeing these little rods and the more we shower what the fuck is that
that's for me i looked it up and internet was so new back then that,
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you know, this was the early 2000s, it's 2001, 2002.
You know, the internet is only like 10 years, not even 10 years old.
So there's one website, it was called the shadowlands.net and it was a database
of all the haunted places and the park we were at was on the database.
Oh, wow. Because I was looking up orbs and that's when we were like,
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what, I think we just caught a ghost or we caught footage of the ghost.
Well, what happened at that park?
Well, it says here that on Halloween, it's always on Halloween,
by the way, that a lady drowned here and people who go hiking or jogging around
the park before the sun comes up, see a lady crying,
wearing all white, hovering over the lake.
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Okay. So we're like, we got to find this bitch.
Right. Right. So we were coming back to the park, you know, and I remember my
mom was like, what are you guys doing?
And we're going to go look for this lady that hunts the park.
And that was the first ghost hunt. It was 2001.
We were ready to go ghost hunt. I remember Renee had the camera.
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We charged two batteries. We got there. Our batteries died after five minutes.
We got back in the car. Renee's like we need to make an infrared cam what light
we mean we made all this fucking equipment bro we made our equipment before
there was equipment out there no apps no fucking special things we made all
of our ghost hunting equipment and then Mickey Mouse put a Mickey Mouse then.
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The following week I remember
me and Renee and Roger go to
this party with my friend David he's like hey man
we gotta go to this party some dude some fucking some dude
that thinks he's all badass ass he's a friend of mine we went to high school together we're gonna
go to his house i'm like well how old is he he's like oh he's about our age it's
like 19 i'm like where are you going he has his own house
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yeah he has his own house he's a psychic i'm like the fuck up and we go to this
fool's house we party there and that's when i met aj barrera and then this was
like what do you do hey man you're into ghosts yeah we're into ghosts too like
we did ghosts and why you go sons too we should do one together.
And that's when the ghost hunting became more, cause AJ had more experience
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and had more, more tools, but we started ghost hunting with AJ.
And then for me, that was when, I mean, I'll be honest, I believed in the stories
my mom would say. I never saw shit though.
But the first time I did, I did the ghost hunt with AJ, I remember, what was that?
That shit gave me chills, bro. I don't know. What the fuck was that?
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That shit gave me fucking chills. What was it?
I don't know. Was that somebody's phone? That doesn't sound like a phone,
right? No, no. That shit was a...
Yeah, that... That was weird. I don't know what that was. I don't know if they caught that on the mic.
I don't know. I've been hearing shit on my fucking headphones for a bit.
Anyways, so it's back. I'm glad you guys fucking heard it with me. Yeah, so...
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What the fuck was I talking about? You should have never called that thing a
bitch, bro. Huh? You should have never said that, bitch.
No, so when we went to... What was I saying? You were talking about AJ.
I was talking about AJ and we just met.
Oh, yeah. That's when the ghost thing started. So we went to the first ghost
thing we ever did with him that was... We got new cameras. AJ told us what to get.
But we didn't have wireless mics. We had the mics that are attached to you.
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Lapel mics? So we had to follow them with the camera. And the first...
Oh, the lapels that connected to the camera? Connected to the camera.
We only had like six feet.
Yeah, bro. So we're recording and we were in this park.
Park and it park was in downey and
that was the park where they they cut all the headstones off
so they could sell the houses around the property but turns out it was
a cemetery and we're doing it and age is
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like oh presence i feel the presence here a
young girl she had an overdose i'm
like whatever you know i'm like okay whatever it's footage you
know and then i see a white light in
front of me like uh just boom boom pass by
and that fucking i remember i went down to
my knees bro and i'm i was gonna throw up and i
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went to the renee he had a little jeep and i'm
just sitting there in the fucking jeep he's like you okay i'm like no motherfucker i'm
not okay the fuck was that i think the energy was crossing over bitch what what
the fuck is an entity what does that mean right i was so confused i went home
and i i prayed i went home and i was confused and that That began the quest
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to find out what the fuck is out there.
It was something that I never thought I would ever see.
It scared the fuck out of me.
And after that moment, library, internet, books.
Everything. I wanted to become an expert in the thing that scared the fuck out of me.
And my mom would tell me like, oh, finally, someone's not, I'm not the only
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weird one in the house. Because now she was into it.
But, you know, she always saw shit. And if you go back a few podcasts,
like way, way in the beginning, you can hear her talk about them.
But, man, it fucking...
That changed my life. And years now, I haven't gone back to that website and I open it right now.
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And I, and I asked you guys to like, look up stuff of your area.
Right. And I think we should really look these up and go to one.
Okay. You know, because that's what we would do. We would go to the shadow.
Anybody can go to the, the shadowlands.net and you click on the,
you go forward slash slash places and you go for wherever, wherever state or, you know, you're from.
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And it tells you a little directory based on where your city's at.
Like right now, pick a city guys.
Should we do, Oh, you know what? Let's talk about the first one I saw.
So the first one, my friend Renee and Roger, we all lived in Artesia, right?
Artesia, California. So the first thing I did was look up Artesia,
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right? And it's, let me see if it's still here.
Artesia, California now here it is so this
is the crazy thing about this this red this this
read right here I'm going to read it to you Artesia the red
house a couple that were to
be wed had a fight and the bride was
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pushed down the stairs to her death it is said that if you walk past her grave
you will see her floating around in Artesia so Renee and I and Roger went all
over Artesia looking for this red house by the railroad, and we found one.
The crazy shit is Renee lived behind me and I lived in the house in front and
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next to us was a house that was read by the railroad.
What are the odds that that house being our fucking neighbor,
bro? Wow. Yeah, exactly. That's when we're both like, what the fuck? Like, this is crazy.
So we set up cameras. We got in trouble by the neighbor because the people,
you know, I said that, that, that didn't happen there, but that they don't know.
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Cause this house was fucking old forever and shit.
And we went and we ghost hunted nothing, you know, but that's when we started,
like, saying, okay, we got to fucking hit, so we hit every little thing,
and then went to Norwalk,
and then you look them up, look up, there's a bunch of, like,
cities, Bellflower, there's a theater in Bellflower, the high school theater,
a girl killed herself because her boyfriend broke up with her,
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and she didn't make it to the play, she tried out for it, she hung herself over the stage,
prop phone would ring when unplugged, when students are rehearsing,
spotlights would flicker off and on when the radio wouldn't
be in plug it would still turn on but the station wouldn't be changed wow oh
here's another one the Kmart in Bellflower my mom worked at that Kmart okay
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and she said shit happened at that it says here a woman has been on several
occasions in the stock room area she always appeared by working no she was appears to be working,
as if the date she had not,
as to this date she has not been on fire that Kmart's not there anymore.
But they haven't sold that fucking property.
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It's been unused. That place has been there for fucking years without no store in there.
I got something for you. All right. I got something for you.
I got something for you. Yeah, I got something for you.
So I was looking at the list of things here, and I noticed that Bakersfield
has a fuckload of places, right?
Yeah. So I'm looking here at Bakersfield, Bakersfield, Bakersfield, and something pops up.
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Bakersfield, the Padre Hotel. hotel hmm
remember we stayed there i remember
the padre hotel that's that's where you you got yeah
that's that's the place you got uh what was the
good word to put you got uh essayed i took one for the team over the team you
gotta cost it i gotta cost it i got to fuck it essayed sure okay well that was
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paranormal yeah sure listen i've never seen a man seduced like that ever it
says the padre hotel one of the city's landmark buildings is so haunted you can
feel it the moment you walk through the foyer doors you should
contact which is a foyer hey man
i'm singing in english bro i don't speak french all right so anyway foyer foyer
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doors you should contact the owner for specific details and then it says update
march 2004 they might tear the place down and then update april 2007 and has
been turned into office buildings and condos.
So it's no longer a hotel. Really? It's no longer a hotel according to this
update from 2007. It was beautiful too. It was a beautiful hotel.
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Here's another one. Buena Park, Knott's Berry Farm, Virginia gift shop.
While up on the second floor, employees in the employee break room,
noises, cold air, and breezes in the closed doors opening up by themselves.
Okay. Okay. Okay. There is Bell Gardens, the Ford Park.
That's like the city right next to mine. because I was looking for my city too,
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city of Bell. But it's not in here. There's nothing.
There's nothing in Bell. Bell is not haunted? Maybe.
There's too many people in Bell for the ghost. Does it fit into here called
ghost? Too many Mexicans. Too many Mexicans. What about Calexico? Oh.
Calexico. The place where we almost fucking died.
El Charro. Didn't we go eat there? Oh, never mind. An old burned down restaurant.
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Ghostly apparitions have been sighted.
Cerritos, bro. There you go. Cerritos High School.
Many janitors have heard strange banging noises in the girls locker room also
it's been said that night that you can see a group of kids near the track as
you move closer they disappear,
well right here even right here in my hometown of mo watts uh there's a place
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off of nason i've heard this story where it says you know a bus with kids got hit by a diesel truck,
and uh you know so now like if you like park on the fucking bridge like your
car will get pushed Wow. Dude, Catalina Island.
I always wanted to go there. Dude, Catalina Island, a specter dubbed the White
Lady, has been seen here as well as the smell of tobacco and fish from the spirit of a fisherman.
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Rumors of Natalie Wood's ghost.
Oh, shit. Have also been talked about in the area where she drowned.
So I guess she drowned near Catalina Island. It'd be a horrible ghost. It smells like fish.
I was going to say. Of Natalie Wood. Or Natalie Wood smells like fish.
Here's the thing. That's a whole new West side story. Well, wait a minute. Hold up.
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The whole fucking Island smells like fish. It's, it's right by the,
it's smack dab in the middle of the ocean. Full of sea life.
I don't know what it is. It smells like fish by the ocean.
Ironically, what could it be? Interior of the Island full of bison.
Oh, I know. I know. Here's one is kind of weird the way it's written out,
but it says it's a school built on ancient native American burial ground. That's one thing.
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It said that the, that something whispered in
their ear hello scott so it's the guy's name
whoever wrote this name is scott right and in
the end it says i am stacy simmons
1935 why would she say the date and then it says submitted by carmenita now
so fucking weird there's a school right down the street on carmenita called
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carmenita yeah what about the uh it's weird the scoville bridge in pasadena Was about,
oh, that's the suicides, yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of places. It says that you can hear galloping horses.
You can see spirits. We should really go through these and go to some.
When you see it off the freeway, that bridge looks creepy. City of Industry
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in the Sheraton Hotel. You guys ever been there?
I've seen it. Please do not attempt to trespass. Security guards and patrol
guards are late. They're ours.
But two figures have been seen running around the golf course.
Oh, this is the Pacific Palms, right? I think so, yeah.
Noises can be heard. Apartments are separated from the forest.
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I mean, we should go to some of these. Bro, Los Angeles has so many.
I'm looking at the city of Los Angeles, and not all of these are actually LA.
We used to go to all the ones in Hollywood.
Those are the ones we would go to. Check out the Hollywood ones.
Oh, Covina. Check out this before you.
Yeah. Rialto, Rialto High School. I went to Rialto High School.
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I never even heard this story. This must have happened after I graduated.
The story said that a boy, you know, took his own life because of depression.
He died before graduation, seen wandering around the C, F, and G buildings,
which I know exactly where they are.
Okay. Late at night, you can hear footsteps going up and down the stairs or the halls.
Janitors and facility members have also been said that when the school is closed
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at night and they are working you can see images of a boy walking around looking lost,
then the lights flicker and then
you hear more more foots see these are some old ass shit people wrote look at
this one a hillside cemetery in redlands which isn't far from me either it's
like right off the canyon it does cemetery from the 1800s bro kind of like when
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we went to the concordia oh shit it says many people have reported strange happenings
such as car horns honking by themselves,
balls of light being thrown back and forth.
That's fucking crazy. The Disneyland, the fire station, some employees hear
footsteps on the second floor and someone knocked on the door on the second
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floor. It's not open to the public.
It's an empty room for several years.
The room above the Disneyland fire station was built as a place for Walt Disney
to stay in while he inspected the park or did business.
It has the amenities of a functioning apartment for him. That's off of Main
Street, Walt's apartment?
Yeah, it says Elias on there or something like that. You could stay there if
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you're like rich enough. Fuck, man.
I'm sure that place is fucking haunted. Oh, Disneyland? Disneyland, the haunted mansion.
I have a book. There are three spirits that are in the place at all times.
An elderly man who died of a heart attack in August 1970 before there was the
first aid station on the west side of the park.
An elderly woman and a young man who has quite a sense of humor.
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There is also something nasty in the attic that's before the Omni movers exit into the graveyard.
Witnesses have reported having their hair pulled on the crypt exit area with no one in sight.
Touched on the back by a hand in a car that ended up having no one in the car.
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Seen people walk up to the portrait hall or grand staircase, stop and vanish.
Spanish faces peer from behind the corner on the top of the grand staircase,
heard footsteps on the false door behind the load area and no one else is there.
Been touched on the face by an unseen hand, seen man in the exit mirror.
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Now, I did also hear that in the Haunted Mansion, there's a little boy that
people see in the cameras.
Riding by himself oh in the yeah
yeah yeah i've heard of that one there's a
real good book on all the hauntings in disneyland it's i
think it's called the most haunted place on earth instead of oh never mind my
bad i just read it right here it's pirates the caribbean the story goes that
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a young boy and his mom loved the pirates of the caribbean ride the boy got
cancer and his last wishes was for his ashes to be spread over the pirates right
disneyland rejected that for health reasons, but his mother did it anyways.
At night, ride operators can sometimes see a lone boy riding on the boats on
the monitors, but when they check it out, there's no one there. Nice.
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Creepy as fuck. Here's one right for you guys. There you go.
There's two of them. I'm looking at the Hollywood ones.
There's two of them at Universal Studios. Oh, snap.
Oh, shit, because you guys are there late night, especially over here.
And then another one, I mean, I won't read them right now, but this one,
Check this one out. Wait, it says Universal Studios? Yeah.
Hollywood. There's two of them. Universal Studios. Lon Chaney,
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Seniors Ghost is often seen. I think we talked about that last time, right? Yeah.
Cat walks above the stage. Oh, yeah. Often wearing a phantom-like cape.
And then there's another one.
The Universal Studios Back to the Future ride. Oh, well, it's not Back to the
Future anymore. It's The Simpsons now. It's The Simpsons, right? Yeah.
Employees will clean the area and close the doors to the ride rooms.
Three minutes later, they will go back to find candy wrappers on the floor and
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doors open. Open employees also experienced cold spots as employees stated a
little girl died on the ride due to an illness.
Look at this one. Hollywood, the comedy store, was once a famous nightclub and
restaurant in the 1930s and 40s.
And the basement is said to be haunted with an evil entity.
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Oh, the hitman. Somebody said that it's the ghost of Sam Candleston because I can hear it yelling.
So if you go back maybe to like maybe our 10th podcast, I think it was.
Didn't I talk about the man I saw with Jay? Remember we did a whole thing with Jay?
Remember I saw the guy in the belly room? Remember I told you I saw the dude in the bathroom?
I saw him upstairs by the door in the belly room he was wearing a
hat that's the hitman i saw him and i even told
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i forgot who i was with to the left right to the left no
no on the top of the stairs in the belly room right on the top
so you walk up there's a stair there's a long staircase before you
go to the glass door yeah and there there was a guy right there with
that hat and then when i walk up he was dirty he
was yeah like a derby he was gone and i think
who was it who was there that night somebody told me
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someone would jay's do the tour yeah fucking
haunted tour there bro if but everyone's
coked out there bro yeah i mean maybe we can wouldn't it be cool though if we
can if we can get into the comedy store to do a i mean we've all performed the
comedy store that's not what i mean but but to do a a comedy hat well we we did at the laugh Oh,
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we did one at the Laugh Factory years ago, bro. Yeah, on Halloween night.
Because Groucho Marx had his office on the third floor, right?
Yeah. And we did an EVP. By the way, we've never been up there.
Recently, when I performed with George Lopez at the Laugh Factory,
his green room, he takes the whole fourth floor.
And we go up there. Wait, there's a fourth floor? Yeah, bro.
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Because it has a basement? Yeah. There's fucking...
It's fucking crazy weird up there. Like, it's creepy. Like Hollywood Laugh Factory?
Yeah, Hollywood Laugh Factory. It's creepy up there as fuck.
The Roosevelt Hotel. Yeah, of course. Roosevelt Hotel. That's where you saw
the guy in the rain. The guy kissed me, bro.
So that dude fucking kissed me on the lips, bro. That's his name,
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bro. That boxer, bro. Oh, fucking kiss me, dog.
That was a weird night. That was a weird night. Have I told this story on the
podcast? I don't know. I think you have.
Yeah it was fucking some box who kissed me he just
grabbed my face and started to fuck her up bitch yeah
my sister went to this high school in hollywood
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in michael harris high school sometimes individual students see
shadows of a man oh of a nun even worse
of a nun yeah uh when the
closet wait a minute fucking when the closet's open in the drama
room the sounds of footsteps and the stage have been reported one
technician has claimed to feel a cold breeze sweep across cross
his neck every time he's on the catwalk imagine seeing
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a nun bro a ghost nun yeah that's
too much you know what scares me you know kids priests and
nuns you know you know where where my fear of ghost nuns
came and there's this old movie called high spirits with steven gutenberg where
he goes to this haunted castle in scott scotland scotland and there's a scene
where the nuns have the old habits with the like big wings on it oh yeah yeah
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and they oh man you see these These are the ones that fucking.
What about the observatory? These are the ones that make me laugh.
There's a La Mirada Taco Bell dash Pizza Hut on Rosecrans.
Fuck. Some reports say in the bathroom you hear voices in your car and in the
lights flicker when you're alone in the window.
If that's a Taco Bell, someone's shitting in the bathroom. That's what you're
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hearing. Yeah, that's not funny.
Somebody fucking groaning. That's what it is. Oh, anyway. Yeah,
that's fucking gross, bro. And then there's, let's see.
You don't notice that i'm looking at this list there's a lot of haunted parks
you think it's because people throw ashes there well i think most of me goes
where people go hang out more people hang out at parks and check this out this
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one east los angeles calvary cemetery it says,
basement of mausoleum four slabs of marble
create demonic vision please research
church cavalry cemetery in east
los angeles cavalry cemetery we shouldn't do it oh here's the one that we set
that one up so check this out this is the one that we we found years ago long
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beach deforest park black figures uh seen floating around moaning heard from
children and spots were screaming or heard especially towards the river trail fernando we went to this.
Years ago with AJ. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the park where the famous EVP.
Yes. I jump. Right. That's the one where I got a fucking orb on my digital cabinet.
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This is where I got to where to go from this fucking website.
That's fucking crazy, bro. There's cold spots, voicing, help me or saying people's names.
Wow. Rapid footsteps, spots where you
hear no sound and all of a sudden you hear a whoosh of extreme cold
air whispering of more one voice late
at night i mean we saw shit bro big fog in the forest beam of light with the
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fog i mean we saw a lot of this crap yeah this was the most one with activity
i don't even know where the fuck that park is anymore check this out bro do
you guys know where jimmy sanacinto is yeah that's probably where i live look
at look at the thing you know it tells.
You where it's at jimmy sanacinto the entire valley in
the late 1800s son of sanacinto
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valley it was home to ramona and alessandro
which ironically two of the biggest streets out there okay ramona
and alessandro i didn't know this when alessandro was
shot and killed by ramona oh when alessandro was
shot and killed ramona kissed the curse the valley
saying that no one born there
would be able to leave there were only
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three roads at the time to the valley back then a fourth
road was added years later that says legend
has it that like whoever leaves by the fourth
road was actually able to stay gone but if you leave by the other three
roads you end up coming back that's fucking i mean
that's kind of correct hey you know what i want you to look up look up that
park where calls always drop with the tree i already did nothing is there nothing
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but wait a minute here's what freaked me out i always call hefty when i'm walking
my dog near a park in artesia park the railroad goes to that park where that
haunted situation happened.
Here's the thing i don't know i think i talked about this is i saw some
weird creature at that park one time you were on
the phone with me i was on the phone with you fucking freak me i don't know
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every time you walk by that tree like either our
car will drop car drops static or something dude like
it just remember when the car shut off and everything oh yeah
i remember you couldn't get your car on yeah here's another
one let's see long beach is the
queen mary i mean that one is i mean if i've seen
i've i've experienced shit on the queen mary yeah i will not go on that ship
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for nothing bro i don't care if it's for brunch you won't go now we should go
have lunch there i agree didn't i just say i won't even go there for brunch
but we're going for lunch not brunch We should totally go there.
It's in the daytime, Hefty.
Ghosts don't come out in the daytime. We should go. Let's go. Let's go.
Yeah. I mean, think about it. That would be a great place to go.
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I agree. I think we should go. They have the brunch. They have the night.
And then you have more access to the ship now.
I've been in the bowels of the ship. Me too, bro. We ran wire.
So we were allowed access to like- It's settled. We're going to the Queen Mary
and we're taking the Zoom and recording it. I got chased down the hallway.
Okay. I swear to God. Hefty's being chased. I already- This is in my thinner days, bro. Okay.
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We're talking. Now we're just talking crazy. I wasn't even thinking about that.
We're talking 2001, 2002, bro. I called bullshit the moment you said the word chased.
Where'd you go, to the bank? Fucking chased. Bro, I wasn't even thinking about
that. See, this is why I can't tell you guys fucking stories, bro.
No, this is why you should share the stories, because we bring light to it, man.
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We bring light to it. Yeah, motherfucker. We make it funny.
Yeah, but we make it funny. We make it entertaining. Not to me.
You know what I mean? No, I'm kidding you're not. I'm kidding you're not.
No one's ever called you a mini Cooper. Mrs. Knott's Chicken Dinner.
Great chicken, by the way, in Knott's Berry Farm. I've never had it.
You know, I've never had it. You know what's really good? We should go do that
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first from the Queen Mary.
They say that, you know what? People always hear shit in that room.
I have a lot of friends over in Knott's Berry Farm. We should all go to these haunted places.
We really should. I mean, I didn't even know this list existed, bro.
I'm telling you, bro. Neither did I until today. I can show you a whole new
world. A whole. The Norwalk AMC Theater. Little children.
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No, this is real. The Norwalk AMC Theater.
I've always heard this. We went there. People always talk about it.
I even told you. We went there. We were in the parking lot and they didn't let us in.
There is something in that, one of those theaters. Now, it's the property that's haunted.
But people always hear a little girl and they always see her walking around
before the movie. Remember when we went there?
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I don't. I'm sorry. We went there. It was me, you, and Ramon,
bro, and Whack. And when we were doing the clips, that's right.
Back when we were all friends with that guy, what a trip.
Yeah, but that place is fucking haunted. People see a little girl in that in the movie theater.
And I think it's even gone down. And people going to see movies there.
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Dodger Stadium. Too many good times. It has to be.
Go see Sitting in Seats. You know motherfuckers that spread ashes at Dodger
Stadium. Of course, bro. I'm sure. I'm sure. Of course.
I'm sure. I mean, I think Fernando wants that. Look at this.
Temecula, the McDonald's. The McDonald's? This is no shit.
Temecula, McDonald's. You know, the thing that I like about what happened, what happened there?
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A woman in the woman's restroom, a customer saw an old Indian woman in the mirror
behind her as she stepped to the side.
The Indian woman pushed her on the shoulder lightly.
When she turned to face the woman, she heard laughter and then the Indian woman disappeared.
She's told one of the employees and they said, oh, they heard similar stories
to the Indian woman is not mean, just playful.
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As you read these you start to
wonder weird things because at the mcdonald's i mean look
at this one this one makes sense the stout family funeral home
okay okay funeral home yeah a
black spirit has been seen in the embalming room of the funeral home many other
strange experiences have occurred such as lights turning off knocking at doors
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and ghosts whispering how do they know the race of the spirit i think so the
black i think it meant black entity it's funny because i'm reading this and
i'm I'm thinking this is a place where all we should all live.
There's a place called Manteca, California. Oh, yeah, let's go. I've seen that.
I'm reading it right now. Manteca, California. Right.
Imagine, bro, you sell Christmas cards out and you say Don Hefty,
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Manteca, California. I live in Lard, California. Of course you do.
In English, they call it Manteca. Manteca. Yeah, they do. They don't call it
Manteca. They don't call it Manteca.
But I'm sure that the Mexicans that live there call it Manteca because that's
what it is. There's a few haunted places in Manteca.
Fucking everybody who died of fucking high blood pressure or fucking heart disease.
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There's home depot the apparitions of a girl have
been seen twice by employees employees working the graveyard shift god
there's a lot of things going on though i'm surprised that
there aren't more haunted hospitals that you hear about there's a lot there's
you know what you know what a lot of haunting places but people know they're
dying at a hospital yeah i think that's what it is there's a lot of there's
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a lot of stuff even when i was reading here where it says oh this There used to be a hospital here.
So a lot of old hospital grounds that are built on top of are usually haunted.
In Riverside, the Loles off of,
I want to say Magnolia, used to be the old Riverside Community Hospital.
Place is notorious for hauntings. Wow. Well, you know, in Downey,
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the Kaiser Permanente that they built there recently, 2009,
whatever, that site used to be a Boeing aircraft site.
Yeah. You know, they used to make airplane parts, the space shuttle,
parts of the space shuttle were built there, whatever.
But it's rumored that some people have died there during the,
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you know, when it was still a Boeing site. I'm sure all the accidents.
Yeah. You know, with all the, and then the chemicals and all that shit that
they were using or whatever. Oh, yeah.
So they said that whole area, there's a park. There's a park next door.
Or, you know, at night, it gets really creepy, you know, with the whole fog,
you know, floating in the fucking ground.
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Well, check this out. What did you read in Moreno Valley? Did you still come to Moreno Valley?
Yeah, I looked up. There's a place called the Susan Lewis Home, where there's a...
The fuck was that there's a poltergeist in this house
where like the poltergeist would do stuff to people kind of
like uh playfully right yeah and they would blame each other like
why'd you take my keys or i turn out that light what'd you
turn out the light or you shut the door you pull my hair whatever turns out
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there's a poltergeist that haunts that house the lewis family doesn't
live there no more and then i kind of
know and it supposedly leaves like like three-fingered
prints which is kind of weird wait a
minute well you know that's crazy the three finger prints
three finger prints because that goes back to
that show saying that they're interdimensional beings that
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they're aliens dash elves or something weird with the
three fingers three fingers right redose three
fingers playful hiding shit or
fucking ninja turtles right it's a splinter you
know i i'm gonna tell you this right now let it be on record yeah
and i hope this doesn't turned into one of those cases where they
were like man he just foresaw his
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own death but if i die soon i'm gonna
come back and haunt you guys but i'm gonna do it in a playful way so you guys
know it's me no scary shit no things in our asses no i was thinking about grabbing
your ass i'm gonna grab your ass in the middle of the night bro i'm gonna come
to your fucking i don't think you have the commitment of a ghost to focus on
that it takes a lot for a ghost to be able to do that I'm going to try.
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I'm going to try. I'm going to come back and I'm hefty. I'm going to grab your
ass. See, hefty is a lazy ghost too. Me? Yeah.
I don't know. I would be a little cholo that could. I'd be a perverted ghost.
I'd be watching. And like all the girls that are friends with me,
I'd be watching them shower, bro. But I just.
You know, I mean, that's the thing. What everybody thinks about.
Maybe you can't even jack off on the other side. When you're a ghost though, can you.
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Are you bound to where you hunt or can you free float?
I don't know. I think when you're a ghost, you can't really leave because you
don't know you're dead. You have parameters.
That's what I'm saying. You're stuck at where your trauma happened,
right? You're attached to things.
Like you have this invisible thing that you're hooked up. Like a horcrux.
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Now, yeah. There you go. Now, if you're a spirit, you can wander around wherever you want.
I don't think spirits can haunt.
I think only ghosts can haunt because ghosts are still on this plane.
So i'm gonna work crux all my star wars figures
and when split between the two of you just know
just when you hear the heavy breathing it's not darth vader like i'll have hefty's
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coming down the hall here's a little thing i mean we talk about you're the one
who said it you've touched all this and and as we read all these things of people
experiencing stuff and and i i.
What was that? You heard that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I heard a voice. I heard it too.
I fucking heard it too. You heard it too, right? Yeah. I didn't make out what it said, but it's...
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Yeah. Yes. I heard it too.
And let me look up Momo's house. What? Shadowlands. You heard that voice? Momo's house.
I heard that shit. You had a... When we played... Morocco, yes.
My fucking shit's fucking on end right now.
Maybe somebody fucking with us. Who? There's only three mics.
No, I'm saying like an entity. that or a spirit that's haunted that
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knows one of us oh that's trying to come back
what i'm trying to say and it
makes sense what if i'm all fucking nervous
right now what if it is like the fernando said the dimensions right and all
these things that i mean look read when you listen to the stories especially
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right now he's in the three finger thing that kind of freaks me out because
Because that's some alien shit right there.
It's some interdimensional shit.
Yeah. I mean, most of this stuff is interdimensional. Like, it really.
What's that guy saying? We have to start looking at this. When we were talking
about that, I was telling you about that movie, Proximity. You guys got to watch this on Hulu.
Okay. I just don't think it's people. I mean, not people.
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I don't think it's, like, ghostly.
I think it's.
Bro, this is. Another bean? This is shit that keeps me up late, man.
Man because it's like i believe in
so much different shit but it's hard for me to put that into
that that that channel i mean that that thing between ghosts and aliens like
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i mean when the alien dies can you become a ghost can an alien become a ghost
or or are aliens already ghosts and they don't really they they live on that
energy plane i mean first you got to believe I mean,
do we even actually have souls that would stay behind?
There's a video, maybe you can find it online, but years ago,
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somebody was recording an egg being fertilized, a human egg being fertilized by a sperm.
Once the sperm goes into the egg, a flash of light, of energy surrounds the egg.
They say that's the beginning of your soul entering the egg. Yeah.
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Yeah look at for now i was like how am i seeing that have you seen that video,
not seen you know what i have seen i did see a video totally kind
of the same but totally different someone cracked the chicken egg
right but the chicken egg was fertilized but it had it had the blood veins already
running in the yolk and it had a little heartbeat and then the guy was like
oh i feel bad because it has a heartbeat and he still ate it no i think he threw
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it away he still made he still scrambled it fuck i'm supposed to make these
fucking uh What do you call it?
These fucking French toasts now. These chilaquiles.
Anyways, guys, this was fun today. We should really look at some of these places.
I'm going to look at more of these lists because there's a lot of places out
in the IG. Listen, we're going to send this out to everybody.
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If you have a spot that we know of, this is how you're going to do it.
We're going to put it once we put the latest post on our Paragordo Activity
podcast IG, comment your story.
Don't send them DM because we don't read DMs. Yeah, just comment on it.
Just comment that way we can see it. When we have no excuse to say, oh, we didn't see it.
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Which I do most of the time. I know. Because. When you guys going to get back
in your dungeon? Fucking.
Anyways, any closing remarks, Fernando? Because I know you're very,
you're thinking about something. I can see the little eyes of yours moving up
and down. Little beady eyes.
Those little beat off eyes of yours.
Those little ass eating eyes of yours. Oh, I got the video set.
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And let's just forget about the whole idea that we just heard a voice on the microphone.
Oh, yeah. I'm trying to. That's why I was trying to make light of this. Bitch, I live here.
You know, the fuck was that? Did you guys hear that? That was a bang.
Listen, here's... That's three already. I know. That's three.
Hey, bro, let me ask you a question.
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Okay. Because I know you just moved into this house not too long ago,
but what do you know about this house? by the way it's a nice house i really
like it i love this house yeah it's fucking awesome nothing absolutely nothing.
Music.
Music.
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What's happening? You know, sometimes you forget why you get into this stuff.
Like there has to be something that triggered the fascination with the paranormal.
Right. When was your first, Fernando, when was your first fascination with the paranormal?
My first fascination with the paranormal, I got to say,
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I've always made that stipulation that my fascination with the paranormal,
I shouldn't even call it paranormal because I don't think that like extraterrestrials are paranormal. Okay.
It's a matter of fact. I think it's a matter of fact, but I also,
people put that in the same category, in the same subject.
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Yeah. You know, as say ghosts, paranormal, you know, spirits, that sort of thing.
And so they put them in the same category as in UFOs or extraterrestrials.
Kind of like aliens in sci-fi. Yeah, exactly. It's like it's sci-fi,
which means science fiction. Science fiction, right. But in fact-
Bitch, it's fiction. It's fiction. Yeah. I mean, it's not fiction.
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I'm sorry. It's science fact that I believe that these beings come from another
planet, another world, another dimension or whatever.
And they simply have technology that we do not understand.
Yeah. So people will automatically say, oh, hey, man, this is paranormal just
because you don't understand it.
Yeah. It's kind of like we've talked about this in this very podcast many,
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many times, where it's to the level of our comprehension today.
We'll say, oh, yeah, well, it's paranormal, whatever, because we don't understand the technology.
Just like hundreds and thousands of years ago, whatever tribes saw whatever,
and then they think they're gods because they didn't understand the technology.
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That's all it is. That's all it is. So as a kid, as a kid being a fan of sci-fi,
you know, sci-fi movies, Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica,
you know, it goes on and on.
Doctor Who. Yeah. It goes on and on and on.
I think that that started that spark where I was very interested in life on
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other planets, you know.
So this whole thing, it started when I was a kid. So sci-fi helped.
Oh yeah, sci-fi. Do you remember what that, when we went to go to the Alien
Con, we went to go see Eric Van Donaghan? Yeah, Eric Van Donaghan.
And he actually said, remember he said that there was a tribe in the South Pacific
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when the Americans landed there.
They were based there and they saw the ships come in, they saw the planes come in.
Right. And when they left, you know, the natives were kind of,
you know, they were kind of seeing all this new technology they'd never seen before. Right.
And years later, they went back to the island, the Americans,
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and saw that they had these, like.
Effigies yeah like airplanes made of
straw right and it's kind of like that's
how these people that we see now these things that
we can't explain that we've seen hieroglyphics carvings little statues that
might be what was around back then right you think pyramids are effigies of
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ships that were here before maybe
there's a lot of pyramid pyramid shaped ufos i mean you know i i I mean,
that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother, you know, we can,
we can do a whole episode on the pyramids. Oh yeah.
I just realized the other day that they were all covered in,
in, in, I don't know. Limestone.
Limestone. White limestone. And throughout the years people would steal it.
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They were just white. So when you see a picture of the pyramids back then,
they were all white. They were all white and smooth. And glowing.
Yeah. So. Which limestone is a conductor of energy or something like that.
Yeah. That's why we always had. And then also the rock that was used still has
a lot of, what's that crystal that we always have everywhere? The quartz.
So what's a big conductor? It's from a quarry. It's from a quartz quarry that's
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like, it was hundreds of miles away.
Hundreds. You know? When was your first fascination with the paranormal?
Paranormal-wise. Half.
Paranormal-wise, like I've always avoided ghosts. Yeah. Right?
Like ever since I was a kid. Your regular Scooby-Doo.
Well. Goo-goo-goo-goo. actually if you actually think about
it my obsession with scooby-doo was probably my first obsession
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with ghostly shit but scooby-doo was never
a ghost no but they would who's always some pervert
in a fucking mask but at the end of the day like i always avoided
i would have got away with the two it wasn't for these meddling kids but
like i always avoided it because i was always afraid of it
right my sisters would scare me and stuff like that but science
fiction wise or or alien wise it
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wasn't until i watched this movie called fire in the sky back in 93 1993
yeah where i was like oh shit the travis walton story yeah so that kind of got
me hooked on it and then i started like looking into like alien stuff right
and then yeah stupid it's a stupid like reference but see it makes sense because
look at right now you just named a movie.
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And anybody who's seen fire of the sky once it's not gonna be like you and i
right now that knew We knew the guy's name was Travis Walton. Travis Walton?
Yeah. We knew right away. Yeah. It got us.
It was that movie, and then there was an episode of Married With Children.
Which one? Where... Oh, the little alien takes his socks.
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Takes his socks for free. Now, you guys... Now, I'm sure, again,
we talked about aliens, but what I was trying to ask, what was your first ghostly obsession, Fernando?
Oh, okay. So, ghostly obsession.
So, again, this goes to, you know, when I say that they started putting the
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aliens in the same category as paranormal, even though I don't think so. Yeah.
Because they were put in the same category as ghosts and aliens,
you know, I always thought to myself, what if the ghosts we're looking at are
just actually aliens from another dimension that we can barely see?
So we're thinking, oh, my God, it's a ghost.
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But in fact, it's actually a living being on the same planet that we're on,
just in a different plane of existence.
And they're bleeding through. Through the veil? Through the veil, right.
And so we're like, oh, my God, it's a ghost. But what if it's not?
That's how I feel about fairies and leprechauns and gnomes and elves and aliens.
They're all the same thing because most aliens look like gnomes.
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I just watched this movie called Proximity.
There's scenes where the aliens seem to vanish, right?
But then this guy, they implant something in him so he gets to learn how to do it.
And basically what he's doing is he's going into another dimension at the same time.
So he's able to move around without being seen.
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Let's hold that. I want to come back to that. That's a great topic we need to
talk about. Hefty, what was your first ghostly?
Ghostly obsession? Yeah.
I would have to say it was probably The Omen when I watched the movie The Omen when I was a kid.
And I wasn't obsessed as I want to get to know it more.
I was more obsessed in how can I avoid ever running into demonic spirits.
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Things you know and then the irony is i would start learning
about demonic stuff to try to avoid it you know what i'm saying so i would scare
myself so i would be like i never put myself in this situation yeah you know
what i mean it makes a lot of sense i mean you you gotta you gotta do stuff
that you were prepping yeah that's what we all do it's like how do you not get shot.
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Right so don't play outside when you hear noise when you
hear fireworks yeah to uh to answer
your question because i know i just ramble and i ramble sometimes i apologize
but my actual you know no for real he does my
actual obsession my first ghostly obsession
or you know that sort of thing started when i was
a kid visiting mexico i was
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like maybe six you know and you know you go to mexico and your cousins and your
family over there the place where we would go is a little ranch at the base
of a mountain called el ojo de agua they had it's like going back in time they
had no No running water. Yeah. They had no electricity.
So everything was by candlelight. You know, super dark.
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I remember those trips to Mexico. Yeah, right? Super fucking dark.
And of course, everyone had stories about La Llorona, of course.
That's like the staple, you know, Mexican.
Yeah. But there were other stories. There were other stories about the devil
and there were these ghostly cats that would grow and scratch you.
Everybody had a devil room or a house where the devil lives.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I never had one of those. Fucking ranchos.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. I know. Allí vive el diablo.
We had a room in my grandma's house that we never wanted to go to,
but we never called it the devil room. I think it was George Lopez.
One of his first albums, he goes, everybody has a cocuy room.
It was a cocuy. I should run by.
My hair stood up right now, bro, just thinking about that. Well,
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it's funny that you said that, because I actually got goosebumps, too, thinking about,
One of the stories I heard in Mexico about the devil, you know,
that he would frequently be seen.
There was a pig pen. There was a guy, you know, a guy out there who was,
he was a recluse, you know, he kept to himself.
But he had pigs, you know. And a lot of people would say that he was the devil. Yeah. He himself.
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He's just a guy. Because of the filth, I guess. Yeah, you know, and he was quiet.
He didn't say a lot. You know, in Mexico, it's customary to greet strangers.
You pass by and you're like, buenos dias. Well, buenos dias.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Total strangers.
This man wouldn't greet anybody. He's all quiet. Yeah, he was very quiet.
Wouldn't greet anybody. But he had a lot of pigs.
And so they were saying some people said that sometimes at night,
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in the middle of the night, when the moon was full.
He's a devil. That the devil would walk on air on top of the pigs.
So he would walk not on the ground in the pig pen.
Right. Right, but he was walking on air on top of the pigs and like floating
on air. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of fucking, what's his name?
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Fucking Gooseberry. It reminds me of fucking the McAllisters when they would
tell fucking Kevin that the guy next door was killing people with the shovel.
He was putting salt on the fucking floor.
You think the thing with the pigs has to do with the whole split toe,
the split hoof animal thing?
Oh yeah, the hooves of the animal, which is a hybrid, which is the devil's a hybrid.
Yeah. Because he has the feet. Anyways, so, okay, that was your first time.
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Six years old. For me, I would say I have a lot because my mom was always fascinated with the paranormal.
And she would always tell the stories. I mean, that was our bedtime story was
like stories that she's experienced.
La señora came out of nowhere or se me pare. So, you know, we always had ghost stories.
But for me, the fascination into the, because from, I guess from when I was
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a kid all the way till I was.
When I was 19, it was fear. I knew about it. I knew stories,
but I wasn't fascinated with it.
Because till then, I was always like, don't fuck with that shit.
But when I was 19, we graduated from high school when we were 18.
And when I was 18, I was in college and I was fucking around.
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And my friend Roger and I would go hang out. Renee, my friend Renee.
And one day, we decided to do a short film.
We liked to shoot. you know we wanted to be filmmakers back then
i wanted to be a filmmaker and we shot this scary
movie which i don't know where the fuck the
film's at and we shot at this park called next
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to golden west college it's this
park that was fucking closed and it's all wilderness and
it was so foggy it looked fucking great on camera we used to have a high camera
video camera nice we shot this shit and as we're recording we notice we have
to put roger like in a scary mask and have him coming like it's a monster whatever
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we notice these little white things flying around the camera,
little balls of energy and what the fuck is that ball what is that and then
we start seeing these little rods and the more we shower what the fuck is that
that's for me i looked it up and internet was so new back then that,
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you know, this was the early 2000s, it's 2001, 2002.
You know, the internet is only like 10 years, not even 10 years old.
So there's one website, it was called the shadowlands.net and it was a database
of all the haunted places and the park we were at was on the database.
Oh, wow. Because I was looking up orbs and that's when we were like,
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what, I think we just caught a ghost or we caught footage of the ghost.
Well, what happened at that park?
Well, it says here that on Halloween, it's always on Halloween,
by the way, that a lady drowned here and people who go hiking or jogging around
the park before the sun comes up, see a lady crying,
wearing all white, hovering over the lake.
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Okay. So we're like, we got to find this bitch.
Right. Right. So we were coming back to the park, you know, and I remember my
mom was like, what are you guys doing?
And we're going to go look for this lady that hunts the park.
And that was the first ghost hunt. It was 2001.
We were ready to go ghost hunt. I remember Renee had the camera.
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We charged two batteries. We got there. Our batteries died after five minutes.
We got back in the car. Renee's like we need to make an infrared cam what light
we mean we made all this fucking equipment bro we made our equipment before
there was equipment out there no apps no fucking special things we made all
of our ghost hunting equipment and then Mickey Mouse put a Mickey Mouse then.
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The following week I remember
me and Renee and Roger go to
this party with my friend David he's like hey man
we gotta go to this party some dude some fucking some dude
that thinks he's all badass ass he's a friend of mine we went to high school together we're gonna
go to his house i'm like well how old is he he's like oh he's about our age it's
like 19 i'm like where are you going he has his own house
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yeah he has his own house he's a psychic i'm like the fuck up and we go to this
fool's house we party there and that's when i met aj barrera and then this was
like what do you do hey man you're into ghosts yeah we're into ghosts too like
we did ghosts and why you go sons too we should do one together.
And that's when the ghost hunting became more, cause AJ had more experience
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and had more, more tools, but we started ghost hunting with AJ.
And then for me, that was when, I mean, I'll be honest, I believed in the stories
my mom would say. I never saw shit though.
But the first time I did, I did the ghost hunt with AJ, I remember, what was that?
That shit gave me chills, bro. I don't know. What the fuck was that?
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That shit gave me fucking chills. What was it?
I don't know. Was that somebody's phone? That doesn't sound like a phone,
right? No, no. That shit was a...
Yeah, that... That was weird. I don't know what that was. I don't know if they caught that on the mic.
I don't know. I've been hearing shit on my fucking headphones for a bit.
Anyways, so it's back. I'm glad you guys fucking heard it with me. Yeah, so...
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What the fuck was I talking about? You should have never called that thing a
bitch, bro. Huh? You should have never said that, bitch.
No, so when we went to... What was I saying? You were talking about AJ.
I was talking about AJ and we just met.
Oh, yeah. That's when the ghost thing started. So we went to the first ghost
thing we ever did with him that was... We got new cameras. AJ told us what to get.
But we didn't have wireless mics. We had the mics that are attached to you.
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Lapel mics? So we had to follow them with the camera. And the first...
Oh, the lapels that connected to the camera? Connected to the camera.
We only had like six feet.
Yeah, bro. So we're recording and we were in this park.
Park and it park was in downey and
that was the park where they they cut all the headstones off
so they could sell the houses around the property but turns out it was
a cemetery and we're doing it and age is
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like oh presence i feel the presence here a
young girl she had an overdose i'm
like whatever you know i'm like okay whatever it's footage you
know and then i see a white light in
front of me like uh just boom boom pass by
and that fucking i remember i went down to
my knees bro and i'm i was gonna throw up and i
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went to the renee he had a little jeep and i'm
just sitting there in the fucking jeep he's like you okay i'm like no motherfucker i'm
not okay the fuck was that i think the energy was crossing over bitch what what
the fuck is an entity what does that mean right i was so confused i went home
and i i prayed i went home and i was confused and that That began the quest
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to find out what the fuck is out there.
It was something that I never thought I would ever see.
It scared the fuck out of me.
And after that moment, library, internet, books.
Everything. I wanted to become an expert in the thing that scared the fuck out of me.
And my mom would tell me like, oh, finally, someone's not, I'm not the only
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weird one in the house. Because now she was into it.
But, you know, she always saw shit. And if you go back a few podcasts,
like way, way in the beginning, you can hear her talk about them.
But, man, it fucking...
That changed my life. And years now, I haven't gone back to that website and I open it right now.
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And I, and I asked you guys to like, look up stuff of your area.
Right. And I think we should really look these up and go to one.
Okay. You know, because that's what we would do. We would go to the shadow.
Anybody can go to the, the shadowlands.net and you click on the,
you go forward slash slash places and you go for wherever, wherever state or, you know, you're from.
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And it tells you a little directory based on where your city's at.
Like right now, pick a city guys.
Should we do, Oh, you know what? Let's talk about the first one I saw.
So the first one, my friend Renee and Roger, we all lived in Artesia, right?
Artesia, California. So the first thing I did was look up Artesia,
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right? And it's, let me see if it's still here.
Artesia, California now here it is so this
is the crazy thing about this this red this this
read right here I'm going to read it to you Artesia the red
house a couple that were to
be wed had a fight and the bride was
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pushed down the stairs to her death it is said that if you walk past her grave
you will see her floating around in Artesia so Renee and I and Roger went all
over Artesia looking for this red house by the railroad, and we found one.
The crazy shit is Renee lived behind me and I lived in the house in front and
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next to us was a house that was read by the railroad.
What are the odds that that house being our fucking neighbor,
bro? Wow. Yeah, exactly. That's when we're both like, what the fuck? Like, this is crazy.
So we set up cameras. We got in trouble by the neighbor because the people,
you know, I said that, that, that didn't happen there, but that they don't know.
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Cause this house was fucking old forever and shit.
And we went and we ghost hunted nothing, you know, but that's when we started,
like, saying, okay, we got to fucking hit, so we hit every little thing,
and then went to Norwalk,
and then you look them up, look up, there's a bunch of, like,
cities, Bellflower, there's a theater in Bellflower, the high school theater,
a girl killed herself because her boyfriend broke up with her,
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and she didn't make it to the play, she tried out for it, she hung herself over the stage,
prop phone would ring when unplugged, when students are rehearsing,
spotlights would flicker off and on when the radio wouldn't
be in plug it would still turn on but the station wouldn't be changed wow oh
here's another one the Kmart in Bellflower my mom worked at that Kmart okay
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and she said shit happened at that it says here a woman has been on several
occasions in the stock room area she always appeared by working no she was appears to be working,
as if the date she had not,
as to this date she has not been on fire that Kmart's not there anymore.
But they haven't sold that fucking property.
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It's been unused. That place has been there for fucking years without no store in there.
I got something for you. All right. I got something for you.
I got something for you. Yeah, I got something for you.
So I was looking at the list of things here, and I noticed that Bakersfield
has a fuckload of places, right?
Yeah. So I'm looking here at Bakersfield, Bakersfield, Bakersfield, and something pops up.
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Bakersfield, the Padre Hotel. hotel hmm
remember we stayed there i remember
the padre hotel that's that's where you you got yeah
that's that's the place you got uh what was the
good word to put you got uh essayed i took one for the team over the team you
gotta cost it i gotta cost it i got to fuck it essayed sure okay well that was
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paranormal yeah sure listen i've never seen a man seduced like that ever it
says the padre hotel one of the city's landmark buildings is so haunted you can
feel it the moment you walk through the foyer doors you should
contact which is a foyer hey man
i'm singing in english bro i don't speak french all right so anyway foyer foyer
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doors you should contact the owner for specific details and then it says update
march 2004 they might tear the place down and then update april 2007 and has
been turned into office buildings and condos.
So it's no longer a hotel. Really? It's no longer a hotel according to this
update from 2007. It was beautiful too. It was a beautiful hotel.
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Here's another one. Buena Park, Knott's Berry Farm, Virginia gift shop.
While up on the second floor, employees in the employee break room,
noises, cold air, and breezes in the closed doors opening up by themselves.
Okay. Okay. Okay. There is Bell Gardens, the Ford Park.
That's like the city right next to mine. because I was looking for my city too,
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city of Bell. But it's not in here. There's nothing.
There's nothing in Bell. Bell is not haunted? Maybe.
There's too many people in Bell for the ghost. Does it fit into here called
ghost? Too many Mexicans. Too many Mexicans. What about Calexico? Oh.
Calexico. The place where we almost fucking died.
El Charro. Didn't we go eat there? Oh, never mind. An old burned down restaurant.
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Ghostly apparitions have been sighted.
Cerritos, bro. There you go. Cerritos High School.
Many janitors have heard strange banging noises in the girls locker room also
it's been said that night that you can see a group of kids near the track as
you move closer they disappear,
well right here even right here in my hometown of mo watts uh there's a place
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off of nason i've heard this story where it says you know a bus with kids got hit by a diesel truck,
and uh you know so now like if you like park on the fucking bridge like your
car will get pushed Wow. Dude, Catalina Island.
I always wanted to go there. Dude, Catalina Island, a specter dubbed the White
Lady, has been seen here as well as the smell of tobacco and fish from the spirit of a fisherman.
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Rumors of Natalie Wood's ghost.
Oh, shit. Have also been talked about in the area where she drowned.
So I guess she drowned near Catalina Island. It'd be a horrible ghost. It smells like fish.
I was going to say. Of Natalie Wood. Or Natalie Wood smells like fish.
Here's the thing. That's a whole new West side story. Well, wait a minute. Hold up.
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The whole fucking Island smells like fish. It's, it's right by the,
it's smack dab in the middle of the ocean. Full of sea life.
I don't know what it is. It smells like fish by the ocean.
Ironically, what could it be? Interior of the Island full of bison.
Oh, I know. I know. Here's one is kind of weird the way it's written out,
but it says it's a school built on ancient native American burial ground. That's one thing.
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It said that the, that something whispered in
their ear hello scott so it's the guy's name
whoever wrote this name is scott right and in
the end it says i am stacy simmons
1935 why would she say the date and then it says submitted by carmenita now
so fucking weird there's a school right down the street on carmenita called
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carmenita yeah what about the uh it's weird the scoville bridge in pasadena Was about,
oh, that's the suicides, yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of places. It says that you can hear galloping horses.
You can see spirits. We should really go through these and go to some.
When you see it off the freeway, that bridge looks creepy. City of Industry
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in the Sheraton Hotel. You guys ever been there?
I've seen it. Please do not attempt to trespass. Security guards and patrol
guards are late. They're ours.
But two figures have been seen running around the golf course.
Oh, this is the Pacific Palms, right? I think so, yeah.
Noises can be heard. Apartments are separated from the forest.
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I mean, we should go to some of these. Bro, Los Angeles has so many.
I'm looking at the city of Los Angeles, and not all of these are actually LA.
We used to go to all the ones in Hollywood.
Those are the ones we would go to. Check out the Hollywood ones.
Oh, Covina. Check out this before you.
Yeah. Rialto, Rialto High School. I went to Rialto High School.
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I never even heard this story. This must have happened after I graduated.
The story said that a boy, you know, took his own life because of depression.
He died before graduation, seen wandering around the C, F, and G buildings,
which I know exactly where they are.
Okay. Late at night, you can hear footsteps going up and down the stairs or the halls.
Janitors and facility members have also been said that when the school is closed
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at night and they are working you can see images of a boy walking around looking lost,
then the lights flicker and then
you hear more more foots see these are some old ass shit people wrote look at
this one a hillside cemetery in redlands which isn't far from me either it's
like right off the canyon it does cemetery from the 1800s bro kind of like when
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we went to the concordia oh shit it says many people have reported strange happenings
such as car horns honking by themselves,
balls of light being thrown back and forth.
That's fucking crazy. The Disneyland, the fire station, some employees hear
footsteps on the second floor and someone knocked on the door on the second
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floor. It's not open to the public.
It's an empty room for several years.
The room above the Disneyland fire station was built as a place for Walt Disney
to stay in while he inspected the park or did business.
It has the amenities of a functioning apartment for him. That's off of Main
Street, Walt's apartment?
Yeah, it says Elias on there or something like that. You could stay there if
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you're like rich enough. Fuck, man.
I'm sure that place is fucking haunted. Oh, Disneyland? Disneyland, the haunted mansion.
I have a book. There are three spirits that are in the place at all times.
An elderly man who died of a heart attack in August 1970 before there was the
first aid station on the west side of the park.
An elderly woman and a young man who has quite a sense of humor.
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There is also something nasty in the attic that's before the Omni movers exit into the graveyard.
Witnesses have reported having their hair pulled on the crypt exit area with no one in sight.
Touched on the back by a hand in a car that ended up having no one in the car.
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Seen people walk up to the portrait hall or grand staircase, stop and vanish.
Spanish faces peer from behind the corner on the top of the grand staircase,
heard footsteps on the false door behind the load area and no one else is there.
Been touched on the face by an unseen hand, seen man in the exit mirror.
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Now, I did also hear that in the Haunted Mansion, there's a little boy that
people see in the cameras.
Riding by himself oh in the yeah
yeah yeah i've heard of that one there's a
real good book on all the hauntings in disneyland it's i
think it's called the most haunted place on earth instead of oh never mind my
bad i just read it right here it's pirates the caribbean the story goes that
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a young boy and his mom loved the pirates of the caribbean ride the boy got
cancer and his last wishes was for his ashes to be spread over the pirates right
disneyland rejected that for health reasons, but his mother did it anyways.
At night, ride operators can sometimes see a lone boy riding on the boats on
the monitors, but when they check it out, there's no one there. Nice.
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Creepy as fuck. Here's one right for you guys. There you go.
There's two of them. I'm looking at the Hollywood ones.
There's two of them at Universal Studios. Oh, snap.
Oh, shit, because you guys are there late night, especially over here.
And then another one, I mean, I won't read them right now, but this one,
Check this one out. Wait, it says Universal Studios? Yeah.
Hollywood. There's two of them. Universal Studios. Lon Chaney,
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Seniors Ghost is often seen. I think we talked about that last time, right? Yeah.
Cat walks above the stage. Oh, yeah. Often wearing a phantom-like cape.
And then there's another one.
The Universal Studios Back to the Future ride. Oh, well, it's not Back to the
Future anymore. It's The Simpsons now. It's The Simpsons, right? Yeah.
Employees will clean the area and close the doors to the ride rooms.
Three minutes later, they will go back to find candy wrappers on the floor and
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doors open. Open employees also experienced cold spots as employees stated a
little girl died on the ride due to an illness.
Look at this one. Hollywood, the comedy store, was once a famous nightclub and
restaurant in the 1930s and 40s.
And the basement is said to be haunted with an evil entity.
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Oh, the hitman. Somebody said that it's the ghost of Sam Candleston because I can hear it yelling.
So if you go back maybe to like maybe our 10th podcast, I think it was.
Didn't I talk about the man I saw with Jay? Remember we did a whole thing with Jay?
Remember I saw the guy in the belly room? Remember I told you I saw the dude in the bathroom?
I saw him upstairs by the door in the belly room he was wearing a
hat that's the hitman i saw him and i even told
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i forgot who i was with to the left right to the left no
no on the top of the stairs in the belly room right on the top
so you walk up there's a stair there's a long staircase before you
go to the glass door yeah and there there was a guy right there with
that hat and then when i walk up he was dirty he
was yeah like a derby he was gone and i think
who was it who was there that night somebody told me
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someone would jay's do the tour yeah fucking
haunted tour there bro if but everyone's
coked out there bro yeah i mean maybe we can wouldn't it be cool though if we
can if we can get into the comedy store to do a i mean we've all performed the
comedy store that's not what i mean but but to do a a comedy hat well we we did at the laugh Oh,
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we did one at the Laugh Factory years ago, bro. Yeah, on Halloween night.
Because Groucho Marx had his office on the third floor, right?
Yeah. And we did an EVP. By the way, we've never been up there.
Recently, when I performed with George Lopez at the Laugh Factory,
his green room, he takes the whole fourth floor.
And we go up there. Wait, there's a fourth floor? Yeah, bro.
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Because it has a basement? Yeah. There's fucking...
It's fucking crazy weird up there. Like, it's creepy. Like Hollywood Laugh Factory?
Yeah, Hollywood Laugh Factory. It's creepy up there as fuck.
The Roosevelt Hotel. Yeah, of course. Roosevelt Hotel. That's where you saw
the guy in the rain. The guy kissed me, bro.
So that dude fucking kissed me on the lips, bro. That's his name,
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bro. That boxer, bro. Oh, fucking kiss me, dog.
That was a weird night. That was a weird night. Have I told this story on the
podcast? I don't know. I think you have.
Yeah it was fucking some box who kissed me he just
grabbed my face and started to fuck her up bitch yeah
my sister went to this high school in hollywood
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in michael harris high school sometimes individual students see
shadows of a man oh of a nun even worse
of a nun yeah uh when the
closet wait a minute fucking when the closet's open in the drama
room the sounds of footsteps and the stage have been reported one
technician has claimed to feel a cold breeze sweep across cross
his neck every time he's on the catwalk imagine seeing
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a nun bro a ghost nun yeah that's
too much you know what scares me you know kids priests and
nuns you know you know where where my fear of ghost nuns
came and there's this old movie called high spirits with steven gutenberg where
he goes to this haunted castle in scott scotland scotland and there's a scene
where the nuns have the old habits with the like big wings on it oh yeah yeah
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and they oh man you see these These are the ones that fucking.
What about the observatory? These are the ones that make me laugh.
There's a La Mirada Taco Bell dash Pizza Hut on Rosecrans.
Fuck. Some reports say in the bathroom you hear voices in your car and in the
lights flicker when you're alone in the window.
If that's a Taco Bell, someone's shitting in the bathroom. That's what you're
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hearing. Yeah, that's not funny.
Somebody fucking groaning. That's what it is. Oh, anyway. Yeah,
that's fucking gross, bro. And then there's, let's see.
You don't notice that i'm looking at this list there's a lot of haunted parks
you think it's because people throw ashes there well i think most of me goes
where people go hang out more people hang out at parks and check this out this
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one east los angeles calvary cemetery it says,
basement of mausoleum four slabs of marble
create demonic vision please research
church cavalry cemetery in east
los angeles cavalry cemetery we shouldn't do it oh here's the one that we set
that one up so check this out this is the one that we we found years ago long
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beach deforest park black figures uh seen floating around moaning heard from
children and spots were screaming or heard especially towards the river trail fernando we went to this.
Years ago with AJ. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the park where the famous EVP.
Yes. I jump. Right. That's the one where I got a fucking orb on my digital cabinet.
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This is where I got to where to go from this fucking website.
That's fucking crazy, bro. There's cold spots, voicing, help me or saying people's names.
Wow. Rapid footsteps, spots where you
hear no sound and all of a sudden you hear a whoosh of extreme cold
air whispering of more one voice late
at night i mean we saw shit bro big fog in the forest beam of light with the
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fog i mean we saw a lot of this crap yeah this was the most one with activity
i don't even know where the fuck that park is anymore check this out bro do
you guys know where jimmy sanacinto is yeah that's probably where i live look
at look at the thing you know it tells.
You where it's at jimmy sanacinto the entire valley in
the late 1800s son of sanacinto
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valley it was home to ramona and alessandro
which ironically two of the biggest streets out there okay ramona
and alessandro i didn't know this when alessandro was
shot and killed by ramona oh when alessandro was
shot and killed ramona kissed the curse the valley
saying that no one born there
would be able to leave there were only
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three roads at the time to the valley back then a fourth
road was added years later that says legend
has it that like whoever leaves by the fourth
road was actually able to stay gone but if you leave by the other three
roads you end up coming back that's fucking i mean
that's kind of correct hey you know what i want you to look up look up that
park where calls always drop with the tree i already did nothing is there nothing
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but wait a minute here's what freaked me out i always call hefty when i'm walking
my dog near a park in artesia park the railroad goes to that park where that
haunted situation happened.
Here's the thing i don't know i think i talked about this is i saw some
weird creature at that park one time you were on
the phone with me i was on the phone with you fucking freak me i don't know
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every time you walk by that tree like either our
car will drop car drops static or something dude like
it just remember when the car shut off and everything oh yeah
i remember you couldn't get your car on yeah here's another
one let's see long beach is the
queen mary i mean that one is i mean if i've seen
i've i've experienced shit on the queen mary yeah i will not go on that ship
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for nothing bro i don't care if it's for brunch you won't go now we should go
have lunch there i agree didn't i just say i won't even go there for brunch
but we're going for lunch not brunch We should totally go there.
It's in the daytime, Hefty.
Ghosts don't come out in the daytime. We should go. Let's go. Let's go.
Yeah. I mean, think about it. That would be a great place to go.
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I agree. I think we should go. They have the brunch. They have the night.
And then you have more access to the ship now.
I've been in the bowels of the ship. Me too, bro. We ran wire.
So we were allowed access to like- It's settled. We're going to the Queen Mary
and we're taking the Zoom and recording it. I got chased down the hallway.
Okay. I swear to God. Hefty's being chased. I already- This is in my thinner days, bro. Okay.
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We're talking. Now we're just talking crazy. I wasn't even thinking about that.
We're talking 2001, 2002, bro. I called bullshit the moment you said the word chased.
Where'd you go, to the bank? Fucking chased. Bro, I wasn't even thinking about
that. See, this is why I can't tell you guys fucking stories, bro.
No, this is why you should share the stories, because we bring light to it, man.
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We bring light to it. Yeah, motherfucker. We make it funny.
Yeah, but we make it funny. We make it entertaining. Not to me.
You know what I mean? No, I'm kidding you're not. I'm kidding you're not.
No one's ever called you a mini Cooper. Mrs. Knott's Chicken Dinner.
Great chicken, by the way, in Knott's Berry Farm. I've never had it.
You know, I've never had it. You know what's really good? We should go do that
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first from the Queen Mary.
They say that, you know what? People always hear shit in that room.
I have a lot of friends over in Knott's Berry Farm. We should all go to these haunted places.
We really should. I mean, I didn't even know this list existed, bro.
I'm telling you, bro. Neither did I until today. I can show you a whole new
world. A whole. The Norwalk AMC Theater. Little children.
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No, this is real. The Norwalk AMC Theater.
I've always heard this. We went there. People always talk about it.
I even told you. We went there. We were in the parking lot and they didn't let us in.
There is something in that, one of those theaters. Now, it's the property that's haunted.
But people always hear a little girl and they always see her walking around
before the movie. Remember when we went there?
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I don't. I'm sorry. We went there. It was me, you, and Ramon,
bro, and Whack. And when we were doing the clips, that's right.
Back when we were all friends with that guy, what a trip.
Yeah, but that place is fucking haunted. People see a little girl in that in the movie theater.
And I think it's even gone down. And people going to see movies there.
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Dodger Stadium. Too many good times. It has to be.
Go see Sitting in Seats. You know motherfuckers that spread ashes at Dodger
Stadium. Of course, bro. I'm sure. I'm sure. Of course.
I'm sure. I mean, I think Fernando wants that. Look at this.
Temecula, the McDonald's. The McDonald's? This is no shit.
Temecula, McDonald's. You know, the thing that I like about what happened, what happened there?
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A woman in the woman's restroom, a customer saw an old Indian woman in the mirror
behind her as she stepped to the side.
The Indian woman pushed her on the shoulder lightly.
When she turned to face the woman, she heard laughter and then the Indian woman disappeared.
She's told one of the employees and they said, oh, they heard similar stories
to the Indian woman is not mean, just playful.
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As you read these you start to
wonder weird things because at the mcdonald's i mean look
at this one this one makes sense the stout family funeral home
okay okay funeral home yeah a
black spirit has been seen in the embalming room of the funeral home many other
strange experiences have occurred such as lights turning off knocking at doors
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and ghosts whispering how do they know the race of the spirit i think so the
black i think it meant black entity it's funny because i'm reading this and
i'm I'm thinking this is a place where all we should all live.
There's a place called Manteca, California. Oh, yeah, let's go. I've seen that.
I'm reading it right now. Manteca, California. Right.
Imagine, bro, you sell Christmas cards out and you say Don Hefty,
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Manteca, California. I live in Lard, California. Of course you do.
In English, they call it Manteca. Manteca. Yeah, they do. They don't call it
Manteca. They don't call it Manteca.
But I'm sure that the Mexicans that live there call it Manteca because that's
what it is. There's a few haunted places in Manteca.
Fucking everybody who died of fucking high blood pressure or fucking heart disease.
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There's home depot the apparitions of a girl have
been seen twice by employees employees working the graveyard shift god
there's a lot of things going on though i'm surprised that
there aren't more haunted hospitals that you hear about there's a lot there's
you know what you know what a lot of haunting places but people know they're
dying at a hospital yeah i think that's what it is there's a lot of there's
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a lot of stuff even when i was reading here where it says oh this There used to be a hospital here.
So a lot of old hospital grounds that are built on top of are usually haunted.
In Riverside, the Loles off of,
I want to say Magnolia, used to be the old Riverside Community Hospital.
Place is notorious for hauntings. Wow. Well, you know, in Downey,
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the Kaiser Permanente that they built there recently, 2009,
whatever, that site used to be a Boeing aircraft site.
Yeah. You know, they used to make airplane parts, the space shuttle,
parts of the space shuttle were built there, whatever.
But it's rumored that some people have died there during the,
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you know, when it was still a Boeing site. I'm sure all the accidents.
Yeah. You know, with all the, and then the chemicals and all that shit that
they were using or whatever. Oh, yeah.
So they said that whole area, there's a park. There's a park next door.
Or, you know, at night, it gets really creepy, you know, with the whole fog,
you know, floating in the fucking ground.
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Well, check this out. What did you read in Moreno Valley? Did you still come to Moreno Valley?
Yeah, I looked up. There's a place called the Susan Lewis Home, where there's a...
The fuck was that there's a poltergeist in this house
where like the poltergeist would do stuff to people kind of
like uh playfully right yeah and they would blame each other like
why'd you take my keys or i turn out that light what'd you
turn out the light or you shut the door you pull my hair whatever turns out
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there's a poltergeist that haunts that house the lewis family doesn't
live there no more and then i kind of
know and it supposedly leaves like like three-fingered
prints which is kind of weird wait a
minute well you know that's crazy the three finger prints
three finger prints because that goes back to
that show saying that they're interdimensional beings that
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they're aliens dash elves or something weird with the
three fingers three fingers right redose three
fingers playful hiding shit or
fucking ninja turtles right it's a splinter you
know i i'm gonna tell you this right now let it be on record yeah
and i hope this doesn't turned into one of those cases where they
were like man he just foresaw his
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own death but if i die soon i'm gonna
come back and haunt you guys but i'm gonna do it in a playful way so you guys
know it's me no scary shit no things in our asses no i was thinking about grabbing
your ass i'm gonna grab your ass in the middle of the night bro i'm gonna come
to your fucking i don't think you have the commitment of a ghost to focus on
that it takes a lot for a ghost to be able to do that I'm going to try.
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I'm going to try. I'm going to come back and I'm hefty. I'm going to grab your
ass. See, hefty is a lazy ghost too. Me? Yeah.
I don't know. I would be a little cholo that could. I'd be a perverted ghost.
I'd be watching. And like all the girls that are friends with me,
I'd be watching them shower, bro. But I just.
You know, I mean, that's the thing. What everybody thinks about.
Maybe you can't even jack off on the other side. When you're a ghost though, can you.
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Are you bound to where you hunt or can you free float?
I don't know. I think when you're a ghost, you can't really leave because you
don't know you're dead. You have parameters.
That's what I'm saying. You're stuck at where your trauma happened,
right? You're attached to things.
Like you have this invisible thing that you're hooked up. Like a horcrux.
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Now, yeah. There you go. Now, if you're a spirit, you can wander around wherever you want.
I don't think spirits can haunt.
I think only ghosts can haunt because ghosts are still on this plane.
So i'm gonna work crux all my star wars figures
and when split between the two of you just know
just when you hear the heavy breathing it's not darth vader like i'll have hefty's
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coming down the hall here's a little thing i mean we talk about you're the one
who said it you've touched all this and and as we read all these things of people
experiencing stuff and and i i.
What was that? You heard that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I heard a voice. I heard it too.
I fucking heard it too. You heard it too, right? Yeah. I didn't make out what it said, but it's...
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Yeah. Yes. I heard it too.
And let me look up Momo's house. What? Shadowlands. You heard that voice? Momo's house.
I heard that shit. You had a... When we played... Morocco, yes.
My fucking shit's fucking on end right now.
Maybe somebody fucking with us. Who? There's only three mics.
No, I'm saying like an entity. that or a spirit that's haunted that
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knows one of us oh that's trying to come back
what i'm trying to say and it
makes sense what if i'm all fucking nervous
right now what if it is like the fernando said the dimensions right and all
these things that i mean look read when you listen to the stories especially
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right now he's in the three finger thing that kind of freaks me out because
Because that's some alien shit right there.
It's some interdimensional shit.
Yeah. I mean, most of this stuff is interdimensional. Like, it really.
What's that guy saying? We have to start looking at this. When we were talking
about that, I was telling you about that movie, Proximity. You guys got to watch this on Hulu.
Okay. I just don't think it's people. I mean, not people.
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I don't think it's, like, ghostly.
I think it's.
Bro, this is. Another bean? This is shit that keeps me up late, man.
Man because it's like i believe in
so much different shit but it's hard for me to put that into
that that that channel i mean that that thing between ghosts and aliens like
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i mean when the alien dies can you become a ghost can an alien become a ghost
or or are aliens already ghosts and they don't really they they live on that
energy plane i mean first you got to believe I mean,
do we even actually have souls that would stay behind?
There's a video, maybe you can find it online, but years ago,
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somebody was recording an egg being fertilized, a human egg being fertilized by a sperm.
Once the sperm goes into the egg, a flash of light, of energy surrounds the egg.
They say that's the beginning of your soul entering the egg. Yeah.
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Yeah look at for now i was like how am i seeing that have you seen that video,
not seen you know what i have seen i did see a video totally kind
of the same but totally different someone cracked the chicken egg
right but the chicken egg was fertilized but it had it had the blood veins already
running in the yolk and it had a little heartbeat and then the guy was like
oh i feel bad because it has a heartbeat and he still ate it no i think he threw
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it away he still made he still scrambled it fuck i'm supposed to make these
fucking uh What do you call it?
These fucking French toasts now. These chilaquiles.
Anyways, guys, this was fun today. We should really look at some of these places.
I'm going to look at more of these lists because there's a lot of places out
in the IG. Listen, we're going to send this out to everybody.
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If you have a spot that we know of, this is how you're going to do it.
We're going to put it once we put the latest post on our Paragordo Activity
podcast IG, comment your story.
Don't send them DM because we don't read DMs. Yeah, just comment on it.
Just comment that way we can see it. When we have no excuse to say, oh, we didn't see it.
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Which I do most of the time. I know. Because. When you guys going to get back
in your dungeon? Fucking.
Anyways, any closing remarks, Fernando? Because I know you're very,
you're thinking about something. I can see the little eyes of yours moving up
and down. Little beady eyes.
Those little beat off eyes of yours.
Those little ass eating eyes of yours. Oh, I got the video set.
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And let's just forget about the whole idea that we just heard a voice on the microphone.
Oh, yeah. I'm trying to. That's why I was trying to make light of this. Bitch, I live here.
You know, the fuck was that? Did you guys hear that? That was a bang.
Listen, here's... That's three already. I know. That's three.
Hey, bro, let me ask you a question.
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Okay. Because I know you just moved into this house not too long ago,
but what do you know about this house? by the way it's a nice house i really
like it i love this house yeah it's fucking awesome nothing absolutely nothing.
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