September 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Leslie and Stephen Shaw drop fire on abductions, Dryads lost in time, and aliens exposed as our twisted cousins. From bloodlines dripping through history to apparitions that cross dimensions, they rip open the fabric of time travel and drag the cosmos into the spotlight.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Oh yeah, Alien Abductions, generational intervention entities from underground and
underwater the younger drivers, dude, make sure you check them out.
Leslie and Steven let him know where they can find
you one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
They can find us on Instagram at Leslie dot Shaw
dot author and Facebook as well. And we have a
website who they arebook dot com and our documentary is.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Who they are and also our show Abductions one oh
one UFOs and the Alien I mean Paranormal Connection.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's on the Gnostic TV network at gnostictv dot com.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's right, kiss, keep a simple, stupid, I promise you
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
All right, let's make it posits into the back of knowledge.
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(02:15):
it is my absolute pleasure to be recording another amazing
episode behind the mic on a Sunday morning. It is.
It's refreshing. I haven't the one done with these in
a very very long time, specifically with brand new people
on the show. Match shout out to servicing on one
of you. And right before we jump into that, I'm
also going to give you the listener of the week.
(02:35):
Oh yeah, today we have Leslie Dotshow Dot author. They
are an amazing, amazing Instagram page that has been engaging
with us and now have their own book. Guys, just
jump in from the dependent and set the freaking move.
This episode goes out to you. Please to get abut one.
Welcome to Stephen and Leslie Shaw.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What's up guys, Hi, good morning, Thanks Angel for having us.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Top of the Morning. I am excited about having you
guys on. You know why I get excited about having
new people on because a lot of us recycle the
special guests and it tends to get a little boring.
I'm not gonna lie, but you guys are making waves.
You guys have amazing content and you guys have a
book out. Please give us more details about your book.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, it's called Who they Are and what They're up
to specifically, we're talking about the UFOs and the aliens.
It's about our Stephen's experiences his family. Tell them about
your family, dear.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes, it was inspired by myself, my thirty years of
research of I was a state licensed acupunctorist for twenty years,
and I gues started getting interested in what was happening
in my family bloodline. Since I was the age of three,
I've seen things that I could not explain. And yeah,
we'll get into like the coins were magnetized in my pocket.
(03:53):
When I was eighteen, when I was a cabinet maker,
I was approached by a tall blue white being about
six and a half feet tall that paralyzed me. Right
side of my body is at high steve into my ear.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
The whole family, we think we're abbed.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So yeah, So I started tracing things going back, and
I found that at least four generations of our family bloodline,
including the Shaws, the Newman's, the Griffiths, and also the
Rows from England and from Eastern Europe, have all had
interactions with this same entity. You know, it doesn't matter
(04:28):
what part of the world. The same entity whose name
is o'glegley by the way, for your audience always appears
the same way. To me, it was blue white. To
my uncle whose life was saved in Salon post World
War Two, it was a tall black entity.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, it was a shadow, a figure in a dark tent.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
To my brother in nineteen eighty two, it appeared to
him in his bedroom in the house that we were
building in Sonora, California, as a tall gray about six
and a half feet.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Tall, the typical skinny with the big black eyes.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah. I wasn't sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I wasn't kidding when I said we're gonna jump in
from the deep end of the pool, and this one
right off the bat, whiplashing from all the crazy stories.
First of all, thank you. We're going to jump into
that portion of the conversation very very soon before we
get into into deeper depths. Let them know where they
can find you. Instagram account, Twitter, all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Leslie dot Shaw dot author is the handle for both
our Instagram and Facebook page and the We have a
documentary on Roku and plex and YouTube too called Who
They Are, and our show on the Gnostic TV network
is called Abductions one oh one, UFOs and the Paranormal Connection.
(05:50):
Feel free out there in audience land to message us
at Instagram. We'd love to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And we soon were soon to have releasing our second
edition of the our first book, and it will be
available in all things that check language and in Spanish
and English, and it's going to be an audiobook form two.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah. That we were contacted by a check Republic publisher
who wanted to translate it.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We said, sure, game, that's beautiful. Hell yeah. The more
people you guys get to spread that message. And at
the same time, hey, let's admit it, we all got
to eat you know, you guys, Hey, you guys. Find
if you guys find interesting in the conversation interesting towards
the end of the show, make sure you check them out.
Ladies and gentlemen, do not skipe on this, do not
sleep on them. Check out their book and check out
(06:34):
the vocal channels and everything else. The description is going
to hold all the links to where you can find them. Now,
let's get back to this freaking tall, gray, blue, white dude.
What's going on? Please proceed?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well? The book is It starts Chapter one is Steven's
experiences and the family's experiences, and then chapter two and
three we sort of have to bring the public whoever's
picking up the book, we have to assume that they
don't know anything about the UFO phenomenon, so we just
give them a quick UFO course, like a UFO one
(07:07):
oh one course through the first two chapter three chapters,
and then we can start getting into the meat of
our theories.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So the thing is, you're asking this specifically, what's the
deal with the tall gray alien right has been with
the family for at least one hundred and twenty maybe
one hundred and forty years. We're not really sure about
as far as that goes, but it appears that we
have a handler. Our bloodline seems to have a handler,
and they seem to like something about our bloodline. It's
(07:38):
something in the DNA, in the eggs and in the sperm.
I've I've definitely had, you know, a number of missing
time experiences. So it was pretty much everyone in my
family except for my sister. All the women on my
mom's side of the family have all been automatic writers, okay,
very psychic fall through all throughout the ages, apart from
(08:00):
just one of them. And so the contacted actually got
you know, contacted this entity, I believe probably through automatic
writing and automatic writing my mom had proved that to
me on many occasions. I mean, she knew when her
parents died and when her uncle Clifford died before we
ever got notified from England back in the nineteen sixties,
(08:22):
you know, when people just had telephones, right, no cell phones.
But she would get this feeling she'd have to go
into a trance and she would just write down in
different handwriting than her own, and she she would tell
us stuff. You know, she picked me up from school
that day and she was crying and said, Mom, why
are you crying, Well, my mom just died. She fell
down some stairs, the cobblestone stairs in England. And sure
(08:46):
enough when we got called the next day, she had
died from a hip fracture from falling down cobblestone steps.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
We determined with our research pretty early on that the
abduction phenomenon tends to follow families. They find an individual
that has their criteria they're looking for, and then they'll
take them again and again and again through their lives,
and then they'll start taking their children and grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And so on. And also Louis Alezando's book Imminent, the
government has put quite a bit of money into figuring
out why remote viewers can remote view and so. And
the reason is there are two areas of the brain
that are hyper developed in people that are have ESP
legitimate ESP and that can remote view and astral projectors,
(09:31):
called the the caught it putin, which is just above
the basal gangla in the back of the brain, and
just what's called the para hippocampal gyrus. Both these areas
are hyper developed and they're hyperactive in people that have
these abilities and also abductees and abductees too.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I saying that word three times fast.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Para hippocampal gyros, peer hippocampal gyrus, peera hippocampal gyros.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Wow, I think now you know what? Okay, so this
I had to throw a little comedy comedy skit in there, guys,
so generational huh hm hm, yes, it is every interesting.
Do you think now before we continue on? I love
I love the way that at the speed that you
guys are dropping all these bombs. Do you think that
they are they go directly with the generation of the
(10:19):
person that they first engaged with because they want to
see what the experiment continues to growth into. Maybe probium
mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That could be part of it. They are definitely stealing
genetic material. And so you know, if you if you find,
if you find a bloodline that has some of the
parameters that you need, the chances are their offspring is
also going to you know, also throw that that's what
you need. It seems to be like hyper focused on
RH negative seems to be one of the criterion as
(10:54):
far as like the if you're just looking at percentages,
the percentage is way skewed in the favor of RH negative.
As far as abductees, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Percentage of they're mostly Caucasian.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It seems to be also their targeting Caucasians a bit,
quite a bit more. And green eyes green Eyes is
also in the fashion.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But it's also the psychic aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
One of the things I think UFOs do. They've been
seen like just cruising along and somebody in their mind
will say they'll see it, and they'll say, oh my god,
a UFO in their head, and then the UFO stops
and starts coming towards them. I think they're actually kind
of crawling for people that have psychic abilities, and so
(11:41):
that might be how they first take somebody. But then
if they do in fact, find that they have what
they're after, then they'll start praying on them regularly.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And telepathy is actually the easiest way of communication. Yeahs.
So a thing that a lot of people don't understand
that the brain functions on aying down pictures because of
the synaptic connections. It always lays down a picture. So
like you can think of the word tree in any language, right,
the first thing you don't think about is how to
spell tree in that language. You see a picture of
(12:13):
a tree, all right. So that's why that's why these etis,
or as we call them cousins, they don't have to
learn they don't have to learn ten thousand different languages
because they're communicating on the most basic level. You know,
this is like a lot harder. What we're doing here
is a lot harder than telepty, you know, And.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Then they don't have to learn nine hundred languages or yeah,
ten thousand, however, are one thousand language?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Ten thousand different languages minimize me? Yeah, there's a couple
thousand alone in Africa if you also include dialects and stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Like that dialects word. Yeah, China alone has count those ones.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Also, Yeah, it's it's about ten thousand different languages.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, roughly agree telepathy. Lucid dreaming is that is that
part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Is different. Yeah. Lucid dreaming is what you call basically
like directed dreaming. It's kind of like where you can
where you're aware that you're in a dream, and you
can kind of like go kind of where you want to,
which is different than astral projecting. Astrol projecting is when
you basically say dream be gone and I can I
project pretty rig pretty frequently. You usually find myself floating
(13:25):
about my body in the bedroom and then I just say, okay,
I want Like so last time I was projecting, I
wanted I said, I want to go to Antarctica. So
I want to see what's going on beneath the ice sheet,
you know, where the city of Gartha and the areaan
you are. And so I got myself awake in the
dream and I just just made the dream go away,
and then I was floating over my bed and I
just zoomed out of the room. And then I was
(13:47):
going through the clouds and whatever and saw some great
cities and I met this guy who had two syllable
first name and a three syllable last name, kind of
like a really bizarre name. And I said, I want
to go to Antarctica, but I keep on hitting these walls.
He says, you just got to remember that the walls
aren't real. You just just go through them. And so
I kept flying around and trying to get into Antarctica.
(14:10):
And uh, after you know, being frustrated for I don't
know how long it was, I just went back into
my body and got up to back up a little.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Whenever a human being is dreaming, their astral body separates
from the physical body, but they're just kind of three
feet above their physical body, wrapped in like a dream cocoon.
And it's possible to kind of wake up in the dream,
you know, if you realize you're dreaming at some point,
like because you know somebody you're talking to is dead,
or you know something like that. Right, you can you
(14:41):
can mentally whaft the dream away and now you're able
to go after projecting if you want to. But the
other option is lucid dreaming, where you get to control
the dream, you get to have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Right, I'm an avid lucid dreamer. I to dream this justice.
I had a nightmare Thursday, No Wednesday night. I had
a nightmare. I was archiving a conversation that really scared
me to my roots. And I'm not a person to
easily be scared, especially when it comes to the spiritual stuff.
And I got scared and I felt the fear, and
(15:14):
I fell asleep with that fear and I got the nightmare.
And it was once I found out that it was
a nightmare, I was like, oh, I know what to do,
and I completely controlled it. It was still not a
happy dream, but I was able to stop negative emotions,
stop events from happening inside the dream. And it's funny
(15:37):
because I woke up exhausted because all night I was
fighting in that dream. So yeah, very important stuff. Now,
let's like, like you said, let's back up a little bit,
and then I want to expand on this generational trauma. Please?
What else?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Like, what have you gone through briefly? And then maybe
you're family members and let Leslie're gonna jump onto you
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh well, okay, I'll just go to the meat of
the thing as far as when I was eighteen in
January of nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, he's talking about trauma, like what happened with Philip.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think, Oh, do you want to with trauma.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, our poor.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Brother, I think I missed, uh huh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
His brother. He was very traumatized by the abduction phenomenon.
It ended up committing suicide and murdering his mother too.
And yeah, it was the biggest tragedy in our family.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, I lost my dad, my brother, and my mother
in about three months in twenty seventeen. And starry to
hear that, Yeah, thank you, it was. It was partly
related to his just becoming paranoid. He is the guy
who who taught college level calculus just for fun of
for extra money.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
He was a brilliant He never never became emotionally.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
He was as a draftsman and engineer. He was you know,
big guys six three and a half and was like
a refrigerator. And uh, he just I think he became
very paranoid toward the end and started you know, installing
ring cameras inside and outside the house. I mean, you know,
no ones were taking pictures. Yeah, and he's just anyways,
(17:16):
for that was for him.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
For me, he slept in his closet for two years
as when he was a child because he was afraid
of the little men that come at night.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, you said you saw an elf. Yeah, we saw.
I saw about six or seven years old, maybe eight,
I saw these five little like dwarfs, just like you know,
one to one and a half foot tall dwarfs that
were dressed almost kind of like almost like Disney characters,
and they were shimmery and they I was in the
bunk bed on top and they just came walking into
(17:46):
the room, kind of looking around curious, and then they
then we locked eyes. I saw them, they saw, and
they kind of froz. Gosh, they froze, and I looked
at them for like another second or two, and then
I turned around because I was I was. I was scared.
So when my brother started sleeping in the closet at
the same time, same age level that I was when
(18:07):
I saw mine, I said, well, why are you sleep
in the closet, Say, because I'm afraid of the little
men that come at night. And it affected him pretty deeply.
He did that for two whole years and also a
lot of his early life. I'd asked him on several
occasions about about his early life, and he says he
just doesn't remember.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
There has almost no memory.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Of his Say yeah, this guy this guy had a brain,
you know, say, well, you know, why are you blocking
that out? So it all made sense.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'd like to mention that whenever there's this shimmery quality
to the memories, I believe that's a sign of alien
memory tampering, because you know, we don't really believe in gnomes,
but the aliens will sometimes when they'll change the memories,
especially when.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It comes to their what they look like, their appearance.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
The face of the abductor is frequently turned into something else.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Like apples or no interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
His mother saw them as Chinese people dressed in Chinese.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Regalia, and uh, yeah that was That was a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But all these memories that that show that kind of
thing are kind of shimmery, like twinkly, and I think
that's a sign of their tampering.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
H whoa heavy duty stuff. So this is this is
interesting because I when I asked, when I said trauma,
it's because I was thinking of the word generational trauma,
not generational appearances. So I missed, I miscommunicated. I apologize
for that. But because of that mistake, I got a
deeper version of you and an intimate story. Thank you
(19:41):
for sharing that on the show. Both of you, and
I assume it was hard not only for you but
for the rest of.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The Oh yeah, we've you know, for for growing up
from the age of three, I was having content Okay,
since the age of three that I can remember, I
can remember back to one and a half years of age.
Because of I grew up very very sick, an individual,
very ill for the first two years of my life.
But anyway, so I remember way way back. But for me,
(20:10):
I've had tens of thousands of hours of lost sleep
because of this. I've had so many times, so many
of these things have hit me. It's it's like what
Mike Tyson said, you know that everybody's got a plan
until they get punched in the face the first time. Well,
I've been punched in the face over a thousand times
with this kind of stuff and four and I do
(20:31):
and I do agree with you about feeling wiped out
and fatigued in the morning after doing lucid dreaming, where
you feel like you're in kind of a bit of
a fight. I've had. I've had those, and I just
even though I get it, sometimes like five hours of
sleep at night whatever, which is kind of like long
for me, But I will feel like physically drained. Especially
if I do a lot of astral projecting. It actually
(20:53):
does take that psychic and that spiritual under your face.
It takes physical energy to do this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
So it's it's something that is really if you do
a lot of this, it is going to make you
very fatigue and also you're going to lose a lot
of sleep. You know. I've had so many times where
I'm just drifting off to go to sleep, and I'm
not asleep yet, but I'm just starting to drift off
and I'll get three knocks behind my head on the
wall or the most recent one was was shaven a haircut?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Two bits was.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
D and I have no idea. Somebody is messing with me, right.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
They have a sense of humor.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then this then there's been this black entity that
has shown up four times in the past year, and
sometimes it pretends to be Leslie. And one time it
got into bed with me and it said to me
in my ear, said husband, I'm getting right into my ear.
And this this last time, it was at the at
the foot of the bed and I thought Leslie had
come into the room. I was awake, and it was
(21:51):
I heard this rustling, like she was like moving some papers,
and then she said something to me. I said, well,
that's Leslie. But then I thought, well, what's she doing
in here? And and then it went into bed with
me again on my right side, and then it went
over to the left side, and it started trying to
have a conversation with me again and said, just leave
me alone, just leave me alone. And it's number one.
(22:12):
It's like pretending to be my wife, and it's it's
feminine and it's dark, so it's uh oh yeah, yeah.
So one of one of these, one of these times. Well,
at one time it was I was just hovering about
my body and it is by the left side of
my bed. Got three feet tall, this thing was, and
we're having this full on conversation. I wish I could
remember we're talking about. But at a certain point I thought, oh,
(22:35):
it's trying to manipulate me. So I said, I said,
art swatting it with my left hand. So so for me,
I've got this stuff in space when it comes to
like these connections. I mean, I just dreamt last night
where I my dad was cutting this big roast up
with this really sharp knife and he had said dad,
what kind of cut of meat is that? And it
went on from there, and he was pretty pissed off
(22:57):
at me about something because he fell down and I
didn't go there to pick them up bath mouth and
you know, it's just and I had one about acupuncture
needles that this guy was sticking in his hand. He
put about fifty men there, and I said, why the
heck are you putting so many needles in your hand?
That doesn't make any sense. I should have actually said
to myself, Okay, it's a dream. I must be dreaming.
(23:18):
So anyway, that's my life.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You know what you don't it's not an easy life.
And for for people that are not I don't want
to say spiritually attuned. Let's let's let's let's base it down.
Let's make it a little bit more basic for the
person that's not opened minded. Yeah, these stories come off
as you know, a lunatic. I'm a lunatic too at
(23:44):
this point. What it is, right, So, you know what,
I would love to get more into your book now,
to give me a deeper dose into it. Then the
next and for the last portion of so tell me
more about the book. I have to chapter one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well, as we began doing our research. We realized that
the basic theories of what UFOs are and the UFO
facts that we were able to glean weren't in alignment.
They weren't making sense together. And as you know, whenever
there's a theory that doesn't make sense, you have to
throw it.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Out by.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So we came up with the theory that UFOs are
not coming here from distant star systems. They are being
launched from inside the planet, and they are launched by
aliens that are a breakaway branch of humanity.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's why we call them cousins, because they are actually
a breakaway branch of humanity from twelve and fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
We separated from us, we believe because of the Great Flood.
We think, you know, you know, like the movie Deep Impact,
right the President frem and Morgan fredys, there's an ass
there's an asteroid coming that's going to kill us, all right,
plan as the Hollywood heroes go blow up the asteroid,
but Plan B is to sink these deep underground bunker
(25:18):
city things. Others yes all around, and they call them
arcs in the movie, and they're they're you know, they're
doing one in China and Russia and you know, America, Australia,
and we think that this is exactly what happened, almost
except that it was a comet. The uh, the Younger
Dryas comet has now been correctly dated to twelve thousand,
(25:41):
eight hundred and fifty years ago. And a comet impact
is you know, their comets are dirty snowballs, right, the
Younger Dryas was a sixty two mile wide dirty snowball
with rocks, traveling at.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Forty thousand miles an hour, and when they hit our atmosphere,
the snow melts.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Away, and it's just these huge boulders hurtling at us,
and it struck all along the eastern seaboard of this country,
in the Atlantic Ocean and in western Europe. The resulting
tsunamis would have been about one thousand foot high and
running rushing to every coastline in the world at five
(26:25):
hundred miles an hour. It would have been incredibly devastating.
And we think that all of us surface people, the
people who weren't lucky enough to be underground, it almost
wiped us out and shoved us back into the Stone Age.
But prior to thirteen thousand years ago, we think humanity
was fairly well advanced. It's just that all evidence of
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this advancement had been scraped off the surface of the
world except some of the megalithic architecture. That makes no sense,
right because it's the most is the biggest stuff, right.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And so the things that back our theory up is
that Number one, the combat has been found has been dated.
Number two, the boundary line that's found in twelve thou
eight hundred year old soil all around the world in
ten different countries, four different continents so far, shows that
the all the forests of the northern Hemisphere were on
(27:23):
fire at the same time.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
It's called conflagration, right, the Great conflagration, yea, like the
Ragnarock stories. You know, first it's like fire and brimstone,
and then you know a thousand years of where you
don't see the sun, you know. But what happens is
is that these rocks, because they're traveling so fast, the
air in front of them super heats and it actually.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Ignites the oxygen in the air and equal everything from
the fire.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
You know. So there's physical there's actual physical evidence also too.
With with genetics, we've been able to find now that
at that time period there was a huge genetic bottleneck
that occurred. In other words, the human race was reduced
to about ten thousand individuals at that time. So they're
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all these these factors that fit together. That and also
too the other thing too, about the twelve hundred different
flood myths, and they almost all start the same way.
They almost all start the same way that a disembodied
voice or a god or god emissary said, you've got
to either go to high ground, you've got to build
an arc, or you've got to dig underneath the ground,
which is what they did in darren Coou in the
(28:37):
Onatolian Flats in Turkey. They built this underground city complex
thirteen stories deep and nobody knows how they did it,
and it connects to other underground cities that are about
fifteen miles apart. So but see it all. They all
start with four warning, which means somebody had to know
a year and a half to two years at probably
(28:57):
at least to give four war needs to be able
to build these things. And the almost in the same
way too. About thousand years later or whatever it was
that an emissary came from the skies, which they really didn't.
But basically like the Vericoaches or the Quetzcatles or whatever,
to basically give back civilization to mankind.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
We think that they they were safe underground, and people
ask us, well, why did they not just come back
up to the surface after the impact, And the answer
is the horrible climate the especially when it hits the ground.
An celestial impact hits the ground or and the ice
sheet at the same time, it sends up billions of
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tons of dust and water vapor up into the sky.
And the boundary after the Usella horizons charcoal whil of
the Ragnarok, there's eleven hundred years of it's called the
Younger dry Ass boundary on top of that, where you
wouldn't have been able to grow crops in the northern hemisphere.
(30:03):
And so we think they went underground to survive the commet,
but they stayed underground because of the horrible climate up above.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And then you get used to anything after you know,
humans we are anything, but you know, inventive, curious and
also adaptable. You know, you get a couple of generations. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, you spent a couple of generations. You know,
your kids are all they're going to know is that
you know the city of Agartha or whatever you know, say, well,
then the surface becomes both you know, curious but also scary.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So we think they bred after a few generations, you'd
have an entire population of a guraphobes that are afraid
of the of the.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Sky, yeah, or where they come from?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Right? So yeah, so they the facts started to point
and then and also to their why they're so so
easy for them to breathe with us, and why they
are so interested in our genetics? And you start putting
these pieces together and.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Why they're seen so often? Right, if they're coming here
from Arcturus and the Pleiades and the Serious and Ryan,
then why do we see them ten thousand times a year,
you know, every year going back maybe thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Oh they go back, Yeah, and that's why is because
they live here with us.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They are from other stars.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Do you think for now, you know, I'm gonna bring
it back full circle. Do you think that these these
entities that come up and and engage with your family
are your ancestors from before?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, I've pondered that. I say, you know that they
could we could have some probably do have some genetic
genetic material in common, you know, I mean, but I
can tell you also too that they're interested in people
that have fairly pure blood. It seems to be too
mean they you know, it's it's so funny. You see
(31:55):
some of these vampire movies and the vampire phenomena, if
you just look at it for what it is. You know,
they come at night, they're powerful, They paralyze you, they
take your DNA, your blood, and they continue to prey
on you and families. It's just the same thing as
what the alien, what our caller cousins do, Okay, with those.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Of the vampire and the sucuitus and this incubi and
the incubus and all of these and the demons. We
think all of these.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Mythos arose from the abduction phenomenon, and our blood is
becoming more and more tainted, you know, because more and
more people are using drugs, whether you know, recreational or not,
drinking alcohol, smoking, you know, whatever, and we're just at
all the toxins in our food.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
So literally, I think that they that's one of the
reasons why they target younger people that are healthier, have
stronger jing and chi, and like I wasn't taking any
medications at that time in my life. Zero could run
a five minute mile blindfolded if I wanted to. And
so it's like I was.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I was.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
My dream was very pure and very potent. Okay, so
yeah there, you know, it's like anything else, you want
to take the best. And you know, if I've been
taking a lot of medications, I probably wouldn't have had
the same type of interaction. You know.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's one of our theories too, that you were in
a military.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, I just I did six years in the Navy
as a CD from eighty.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Thank you, thank you for your servicer, Thank you very much. Yeah. Wow,
I want to know more. I want to know more.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know what, you know what?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, what's the beautiful part. You're not just the
person the people that come on the show or other
podcast show and speak on I saw aliens, aliens subducting me,
my family, this and that. Here's my bug. No, you're
showing me a little bit of history and then you
bring the research bro you bring historical facts, dates, names,
and then you haven't even mentioned your book. You're telling
(33:53):
me all of it, all the information. You're you're info
dumping right now, and that is what I look, this
is why I love doing this stuff, because yeah, you'll
get those people that that are just trying to push
their content. They're just trying to make a book. That's while.
You do have those, you know, and I cherish those
two those people also, But I cherish even more this
type of content because people are not there. They're gonna
(34:13):
get a full presentation of who you are, what you're
giving out, and also they're gonna relate this information. This
is what I have to say. You need to take
five seconds every day and stop scrolling on TikTok, watching
ass and go to a search bar and find out
the information for yourself. Hashtag look it up. That's the
phrase here on the show. Now, coming on a close,
(34:37):
I like to do about thirty five to forty five
minute episodes, keeping it short because I respect check in
your time, guys. What's next? What's next for you for
the journey?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, just two weeks ago, I got this wild hair
up my ass, and I decided to write a screenplay
based on our theories too, So I just finished that
like two days ago, you know the and now I'm
just kind of tweaking it here and there.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And also too, we've just recently had we did contact
in the desert again the Heroes Vendors, and we we
met the guy who's part of the Alien Carvings group,
the ones that go down to Mexico and Central America
and even down to Peru, and they're finding these these
ancient artifacts that date from between two thousand and even
(35:25):
up to thirty five thousand years old depending how deepe
gole in the soil. Magnificent pieces and some of these
glow under a dark body. They glow, they glow vibrant green.
They'd found chest sets that are one hundred and eighty
pounds that are like with different pieces whatever and alien
all these things.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
We bought one of them.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It was kind of a little expensive, five hundred bucks,
but it's worth it because these things are encrusted with
precious gems and they have the faces of the grays
and the onanachy and you know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Carvings too, and Sumerian ancient proto Sumerian hieroglyphic.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
And they're fantastic. They are mind blowing. It's Aliencarvings dot com. Yeah,
and the other.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Two different guys from them from Mexico have been on
our show recently and we're very proud of those episodes.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, they both live. One lives in Washington and one
lives here in California. But you know, they actually are
like the modern day Indiana. Jones could go down there
to meet the population. They literally have to find out
what the real information is.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So they learn the.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Language and they go up into the hills, they do
the digging, they do all the stuff, they bring it
back and then you know the Mexican government is they
were just saying, oh, these are just tourist things. They
think it's a it's a hoax.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But a lot of these precious stones are inlaid with
a glue made some plant matter, and they've been able
to carve and date them between nine and twenty five
thousand years oldands of years before anyone is supposed to
be building pyramid complexes in that.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Those old mechs, I'm telling you man, those all I
did a deep research. I call it deep research for
my level of research on the old mex Oh my goodness, bro. Yeah,
they would leave they would leave their memory in their
memory in frequency in stone. So when you would touch
(37:24):
the stone and you brub it in a certain way
to tell a song. Oh, my god, the frequency bro.
It's just who does that? You know, who thinks of
this stuff? And they left them their memories on literally
on stone. It's very You have a show. I didn't.
I didn't even know this. You had a podcast show.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, we're on the Gnostic TV net.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, we've done about.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
At gnostictv dot com and it's called Abductions one oh one.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well, it's called Abductions one on one UFOs and the
Paranormal Connection.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's on your shirt and make sure you check them out, guys,
more more time. Where can they find you?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And they are here.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Mine is Leslie dot Shaw dot author for our Instagram
and Facebook, and from there you can find pretty much
anything else about us. We do have a website Who
they arebook dot com, and we have the documentary menory
that was made about us. It's called Who They Are.
It's now on Roku, flex, Apple TV. Some f awesome
(38:26):
and fossome documentary.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right right names by Sky Island Storytelling. They've won quite
a few awards for their documentaries.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's on I gotta check it out.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It was on YouTube first. I had about four hundred
thousand views on it and then it got.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Picked up by rope the TV.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm gonna go check it out. I have to go
check it out. Guys. I get you were going to
say something, Steve.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Oh no, I can't remember at this point. It's this.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
They are here. You said something about your shirt and oh.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, yeah, they are they are here. Yeah, this is
one of our designs. Here alien at the bar saying
I'll have the I'll have.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
The crickets and gray with the side of flies.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I think I love it, and human blood to digest
it to drink.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yes. So the very fact that you know they are
coming from other solar systems or other planets, even the
substrate and the bacterium in those planets which determine what
our digestive systems are going to be, it's they They
would just they would be under attack immediately. Their immune
systems would be under attack from our bacterium on this planet.
(39:30):
And also genetically to build the breed, you have to
be ninety nine point ninety seven percent the same to
throw a viable offspring. You can't just like make you know,
like even a tiger and a lion, you know, they
throw sterile offspring. So anybody that would be coming and
bothering my family for one hundred and forty years, for
(39:51):
four generations. Uh, isn't coming from our tourists just for
the fun of it, just to see. Oh, let's let's
give this guy some sleepless knights and still some of
the sperm.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
And what you know? You for the truly alien civilization
me with so much human DNA. But if you're a
breakaway branch of humanity, maybe becoming sterile living underground for
so long, you would need regular infusions of human DNA
from surface dwellers.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
He who controls the genetics of a planet controls the planet.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Or or or they're using it. I like the fact
that I like to point out that you said to
be produce or maybe to learn how to adapt back
for the surface right.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Possible deintegration might be one of their goals.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I love it. Sure you check them out, ladies and gentlemen,
Leslie and Stephen Shaw. They came to murder it. You
guys killed it. It was a beautiful conversation. I love they.
Make sure you check out their book, check out their channels,
and you can find them on the description of the show.
I want to thank you again for your time, for
your amazing wisdom for all your research and continue doing
what you're doing. You guys are really kicking ass out there.
You gotta you fan in me. I'm gonna check out
(41:02):
your stuff on Roco literally later on today. I probably
watch it with my oldest I want to thank you
again from the bottom of my heart. This means the
world podcasting for me save me. I'm sober now. I'm
my best version of myself because of the show, because
of Jesus as well, but because of the show, and
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(41:22):
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Speaker 3 (41:28):
Peace Peace, That was good, Bro.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That was good
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Radio
Oh yeah, Alien Abductions, generational intervention entities from underground and
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Leslie and Steven let him know where they can find
you one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
They can find us on Instagram at Leslie dot Shaw
dot author and Facebook as well. And we have a
website who they arebook dot com and our documentary is.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Who they are and also our show Abductions one oh
one UFOs and the Alien I mean Paranormal Connection.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's on the Gnostic TV network at gnostictv dot com.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
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This episode goes out to you. Please to get abut one.
Welcome to Stephen and Leslie Shaw.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What's up guys, Hi, good morning, Thanks Angel for having us.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Top of the Morning. I am excited about having you
guys on. You know why I get excited about having
new people on because a lot of us recycle the
special guests and it tends to get a little boring.
I'm not gonna lie, but you guys are making waves.
You guys have amazing content and you guys have a
book out. Please give us more details about your book.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, it's called Who they Are and what They're up
to specifically, we're talking about the UFOs and the aliens.
It's about our Stephen's experiences his family. Tell them about
your family, dear.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes, it was inspired by myself, my thirty years of
research of I was a state licensed acupunctorist for twenty years,
and I gues started getting interested in what was happening
in my family bloodline. Since I was the age of three,
I've seen things that I could not explain. And yeah,
we'll get into like the coins were magnetized in my pocket.
(03:53):
When I was eighteen, when I was a cabinet maker,
I was approached by a tall blue white being about
six and a half feet tall that paralyzed me. Right
side of my body is at high steve into my ear.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
The whole family, we think we're abbed.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So yeah, So I started tracing things going back, and
I found that at least four generations of our family bloodline,
including the Shaws, the Newman's, the Griffiths, and also the
Rows from England and from Eastern Europe, have all had
interactions with this same entity. You know, it doesn't matter
(04:28):
what part of the world. The same entity whose name
is o'glegley by the way, for your audience always appears
the same way. To me, it was blue white. To
my uncle whose life was saved in Salon post World
War Two, it was a tall black entity.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, it was a shadow, a figure in a dark tent.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
To my brother in nineteen eighty two, it appeared to
him in his bedroom in the house that we were
building in Sonora, California, as a tall gray about six
and a half feet.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Tall, the typical skinny with the big black eyes.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah. I wasn't sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I wasn't kidding when I said we're gonna jump in
from the deep end of the pool, and this one
right off the bat, whiplashing from all the crazy stories.
First of all, thank you. We're going to jump into
that portion of the conversation very very soon before we
get into into deeper depths. Let them know where they
can find you. Instagram account, Twitter, all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Leslie dot Shaw dot author is the handle for both
our Instagram and Facebook page and the We have a
documentary on Roku and plex and YouTube too called Who
They Are, and our show on the Gnostic TV network
is called Abductions one oh one, UFOs and the Paranormal Connection.
(05:50):
Feel free out there in audience land to message us
at Instagram. We'd love to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And we soon were soon to have releasing our second
edition of the our first book, and it will be
available in all things that check language and in Spanish
and English, and it's going to be an audiobook form two.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah. That we were contacted by a check Republic publisher
who wanted to translate it.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We said, sure, game, that's beautiful. Hell yeah. The more
people you guys get to spread that message. And at
the same time, hey, let's admit it, we all got
to eat you know, you guys, Hey, you guys. Find
if you guys find interesting in the conversation interesting towards
the end of the show, make sure you check them out.
Ladies and gentlemen, do not skipe on this, do not
sleep on them. Check out their book and check out
(06:34):
the vocal channels and everything else. The description is going
to hold all the links to where you can find them. Now,
let's get back to this freaking tall, gray, blue, white dude.
What's going on? Please proceed?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well? The book is It starts Chapter one is Steven's
experiences and the family's experiences, and then chapter two and
three we sort of have to bring the public whoever's
picking up the book, we have to assume that they
don't know anything about the UFO phenomenon, so we just
give them a quick UFO course, like a UFO one
(07:07):
oh one course through the first two chapter three chapters,
and then we can start getting into the meat of
our theories.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So the thing is, you're asking this specifically, what's the
deal with the tall gray alien right has been with
the family for at least one hundred and twenty maybe
one hundred and forty years. We're not really sure about
as far as that goes, but it appears that we
have a handler. Our bloodline seems to have a handler,
and they seem to like something about our bloodline. It's
(07:38):
something in the DNA, in the eggs and in the sperm.
I've I've definitely had, you know, a number of missing
time experiences. So it was pretty much everyone in my
family except for my sister. All the women on my
mom's side of the family have all been automatic writers, okay,
very psychic fall through all throughout the ages, apart from
(08:00):
just one of them. And so the contacted actually got
you know, contacted this entity, I believe probably through automatic
writing and automatic writing my mom had proved that to
me on many occasions. I mean, she knew when her
parents died and when her uncle Clifford died before we
ever got notified from England back in the nineteen sixties,
(08:22):
you know, when people just had telephones, right, no cell phones.
But she would get this feeling she'd have to go
into a trance and she would just write down in
different handwriting than her own, and she she would tell
us stuff. You know, she picked me up from school
that day and she was crying and said, Mom, why
are you crying, Well, my mom just died. She fell
down some stairs, the cobblestone stairs in England. And sure
(08:46):
enough when we got called the next day, she had
died from a hip fracture from falling down cobblestone steps.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
We determined with our research pretty early on that the
abduction phenomenon tends to follow families. They find an individual
that has their criteria they're looking for, and then they'll
take them again and again and again through their lives,
and then they'll start taking their children and grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And so on. And also Louis Alezando's book Imminent, the
government has put quite a bit of money into figuring
out why remote viewers can remote view and so. And
the reason is there are two areas of the brain
that are hyper developed in people that are have ESP
legitimate ESP and that can remote view and astral projectors,
(09:31):
called the the caught it putin, which is just above
the basal gangla in the back of the brain, and
just what's called the para hippocampal gyrus. Both these areas
are hyper developed and they're hyperactive in people that have
these abilities and also abductees and abductees too.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I saying that word three times fast.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Para hippocampal gyros, peer hippocampal gyrus, peera hippocampal gyros.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Wow, I think now you know what? Okay, so this
I had to throw a little comedy comedy skit in there, guys,
so generational huh hm hm, yes, it is every interesting.
Do you think now before we continue on? I love
I love the way that at the speed that you
guys are dropping all these bombs. Do you think that
they are they go directly with the generation of the
(10:19):
person that they first engaged with because they want to
see what the experiment continues to growth into. Maybe probium
mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That could be part of it. They are definitely stealing
genetic material. And so you know, if you if you find,
if you find a bloodline that has some of the
parameters that you need, the chances are their offspring is
also going to you know, also throw that that's what
you need. It seems to be like hyper focused on
RH negative seems to be one of the criterion as
(10:54):
far as like the if you're just looking at percentages,
the percentage is way skewed in the favor of RH negative.
As far as abductees, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Percentage of they're mostly Caucasian.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It seems to be also their targeting Caucasians a bit,
quite a bit more. And green eyes green Eyes is
also in the fashion.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But it's also the psychic aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
One of the things I think UFOs do. They've been
seen like just cruising along and somebody in their mind
will say they'll see it, and they'll say, oh my god,
a UFO in their head, and then the UFO stops
and starts coming towards them. I think they're actually kind
of crawling for people that have psychic abilities, and so
(11:41):
that might be how they first take somebody. But then
if they do in fact, find that they have what
they're after, then they'll start praying on them regularly.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And telepathy is actually the easiest way of communication. Yeahs.
So a thing that a lot of people don't understand
that the brain functions on aying down pictures because of
the synaptic connections. It always lays down a picture. So
like you can think of the word tree in any language, right,
the first thing you don't think about is how to
spell tree in that language. You see a picture of
(12:13):
a tree, all right. So that's why that's why these etis,
or as we call them cousins, they don't have to
learn they don't have to learn ten thousand different languages
because they're communicating on the most basic level. You know,
this is like a lot harder. What we're doing here
is a lot harder than telepty, you know, And.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Then they don't have to learn nine hundred languages or yeah,
ten thousand, however, are one thousand language?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Ten thousand different languages minimize me? Yeah, there's a couple
thousand alone in Africa if you also include dialects and stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Like that dialects word. Yeah, China alone has count those ones.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Also, Yeah, it's it's about ten thousand different languages.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, roughly agree telepathy. Lucid dreaming is that is that
part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Is different. Yeah. Lucid dreaming is what you call basically
like directed dreaming. It's kind of like where you can
where you're aware that you're in a dream, and you
can kind of like go kind of where you want to,
which is different than astral projecting. Astrol projecting is when
you basically say dream be gone and I can I
project pretty rig pretty frequently. You usually find myself floating
(13:25):
about my body in the bedroom and then I just say, okay,
I want Like so last time I was projecting, I
wanted I said, I want to go to Antarctica. So
I want to see what's going on beneath the ice sheet,
you know, where the city of Gartha and the areaan
you are. And so I got myself awake in the
dream and I just just made the dream go away,
and then I was floating over my bed and I
just zoomed out of the room. And then I was
(13:47):
going through the clouds and whatever and saw some great
cities and I met this guy who had two syllable
first name and a three syllable last name, kind of
like a really bizarre name. And I said, I want
to go to Antarctica, but I keep on hitting these walls.
He says, you just got to remember that the walls
aren't real. You just just go through them. And so
I kept flying around and trying to get into Antarctica.
(14:10):
And uh, after you know, being frustrated for I don't
know how long it was, I just went back into
my body and got up to back up a little.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Whenever a human being is dreaming, their astral body separates
from the physical body, but they're just kind of three
feet above their physical body, wrapped in like a dream cocoon.
And it's possible to kind of wake up in the dream,
you know, if you realize you're dreaming at some point,
like because you know somebody you're talking to is dead,
or you know something like that. Right, you can you
(14:41):
can mentally whaft the dream away and now you're able
to go after projecting if you want to. But the
other option is lucid dreaming, where you get to control
the dream, you get to have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Right, I'm an avid lucid dreamer. I to dream this justice.
I had a nightmare Thursday, No Wednesday night. I had
a nightmare. I was archiving a conversation that really scared
me to my roots. And I'm not a person to
easily be scared, especially when it comes to the spiritual stuff.
And I got scared and I felt the fear, and
(15:14):
I fell asleep with that fear and I got the nightmare.
And it was once I found out that it was
a nightmare, I was like, oh, I know what to do,
and I completely controlled it. It was still not a
happy dream, but I was able to stop negative emotions,
stop events from happening inside the dream. And it's funny
(15:37):
because I woke up exhausted because all night I was
fighting in that dream. So yeah, very important stuff. Now,
let's like, like you said, let's back up a little bit,
and then I want to expand on this generational trauma. Please?
What else?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Like, what have you gone through briefly? And then maybe
you're family members and let Leslie're gonna jump onto you
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh well, okay, I'll just go to the meat of
the thing as far as when I was eighteen in
January of nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, he's talking about trauma, like what happened with Philip.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think, Oh, do you want to with trauma.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, our poor.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Brother, I think I missed, uh huh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
His brother. He was very traumatized by the abduction phenomenon.
It ended up committing suicide and murdering his mother too.
And yeah, it was the biggest tragedy in our family.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, I lost my dad, my brother, and my mother
in about three months in twenty seventeen. And starry to
hear that, Yeah, thank you, it was. It was partly
related to his just becoming paranoid. He is the guy
who who taught college level calculus just for fun of
for extra money.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
He was a brilliant He never never became emotionally.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
He was as a draftsman and engineer. He was you know,
big guys six three and a half and was like
a refrigerator. And uh, he just I think he became
very paranoid toward the end and started you know, installing
ring cameras inside and outside the house. I mean, you know,
no ones were taking pictures. Yeah, and he's just anyways,
(17:16):
for that was for him.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
For me, he slept in his closet for two years
as when he was a child because he was afraid
of the little men that come at night.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, you said you saw an elf. Yeah, we saw.
I saw about six or seven years old, maybe eight,
I saw these five little like dwarfs, just like you know,
one to one and a half foot tall dwarfs that
were dressed almost kind of like almost like Disney characters,
and they were shimmery and they I was in the
bunk bed on top and they just came walking into
(17:46):
the room, kind of looking around curious, and then they
then we locked eyes. I saw them, they saw, and
they kind of froz. Gosh, they froze, and I looked
at them for like another second or two, and then
I turned around because I was I was. I was scared.
So when my brother started sleeping in the closet at
the same time, same age level that I was when
(18:07):
I saw mine, I said, well, why are you sleep
in the closet, Say, because I'm afraid of the little
men that come at night. And it affected him pretty deeply.
He did that for two whole years and also a
lot of his early life. I'd asked him on several
occasions about about his early life, and he says he
just doesn't remember.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
There has almost no memory.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Of his Say yeah, this guy this guy had a brain,
you know, say, well, you know, why are you blocking
that out? So it all made sense.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'd like to mention that whenever there's this shimmery quality
to the memories, I believe that's a sign of alien
memory tampering, because you know, we don't really believe in gnomes,
but the aliens will sometimes when they'll change the memories,
especially when.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It comes to their what they look like, their appearance.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
The face of the abductor is frequently turned into something else.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Like apples or no interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
His mother saw them as Chinese people dressed in Chinese.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Regalia, and uh, yeah that was That was a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But all these memories that that show that kind of
thing are kind of shimmery, like twinkly, and I think
that's a sign of their tampering.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
H whoa heavy duty stuff. So this is this is
interesting because I when I asked, when I said trauma,
it's because I was thinking of the word generational trauma,
not generational appearances. So I missed, I miscommunicated. I apologize
for that. But because of that mistake, I got a
deeper version of you and an intimate story. Thank you
(19:41):
for sharing that on the show. Both of you, and
I assume it was hard not only for you but
for the rest of.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The Oh yeah, we've you know, for for growing up
from the age of three, I was having content Okay,
since the age of three that I can remember, I
can remember back to one and a half years of age.
Because of I grew up very very sick, an individual,
very ill for the first two years of my life.
But anyway, so I remember way way back. But for me,
(20:10):
I've had tens of thousands of hours of lost sleep
because of this. I've had so many times, so many
of these things have hit me. It's it's like what
Mike Tyson said, you know that everybody's got a plan
until they get punched in the face the first time. Well,
I've been punched in the face over a thousand times
with this kind of stuff and four and I do
(20:31):
and I do agree with you about feeling wiped out
and fatigued in the morning after doing lucid dreaming, where
you feel like you're in kind of a bit of
a fight. I've had. I've had those, and I just
even though I get it, sometimes like five hours of
sleep at night whatever, which is kind of like long
for me, But I will feel like physically drained. Especially
if I do a lot of astral projecting. It actually
(20:53):
does take that psychic and that spiritual under your face.
It takes physical energy to do this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
So it's it's something that is really if you do
a lot of this, it is going to make you
very fatigue and also you're going to lose a lot
of sleep. You know. I've had so many times where
I'm just drifting off to go to sleep, and I'm
not asleep yet, but I'm just starting to drift off
and I'll get three knocks behind my head on the
wall or the most recent one was was shaven a haircut?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Two bits was.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
D and I have no idea. Somebody is messing with me, right.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
They have a sense of humor.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then this then there's been this black entity that
has shown up four times in the past year, and
sometimes it pretends to be Leslie. And one time it
got into bed with me and it said to me
in my ear, said husband, I'm getting right into my ear.
And this this last time, it was at the at
the foot of the bed and I thought Leslie had
come into the room. I was awake, and it was
(21:51):
I heard this rustling, like she was like moving some papers,
and then she said something to me. I said, well,
that's Leslie. But then I thought, well, what's she doing
in here? And and then it went into bed with
me again on my right side, and then it went
over to the left side, and it started trying to
have a conversation with me again and said, just leave
me alone, just leave me alone. And it's number one.
(22:12):
It's like pretending to be my wife, and it's it's
feminine and it's dark, so it's uh oh yeah, yeah.
So one of one of these, one of these times. Well,
at one time it was I was just hovering about
my body and it is by the left side of
my bed. Got three feet tall, this thing was, and
we're having this full on conversation. I wish I could
remember we're talking about. But at a certain point I thought, oh,
(22:35):
it's trying to manipulate me. So I said, I said,
art swatting it with my left hand. So so for me,
I've got this stuff in space when it comes to
like these connections. I mean, I just dreamt last night
where I my dad was cutting this big roast up
with this really sharp knife and he had said dad,
what kind of cut of meat is that? And it
went on from there, and he was pretty pissed off
(22:57):
at me about something because he fell down and I
didn't go there to pick them up bath mouth and
you know, it's just and I had one about acupuncture
needles that this guy was sticking in his hand. He
put about fifty men there, and I said, why the
heck are you putting so many needles in your hand?
That doesn't make any sense. I should have actually said
to myself, Okay, it's a dream. I must be dreaming.
(23:18):
So anyway, that's my life.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You know what you don't it's not an easy life.
And for for people that are not I don't want
to say spiritually attuned. Let's let's let's let's base it down.
Let's make it a little bit more basic for the
person that's not opened minded. Yeah, these stories come off
as you know, a lunatic. I'm a lunatic too at
(23:44):
this point. What it is, right, So, you know what,
I would love to get more into your book now,
to give me a deeper dose into it. Then the
next and for the last portion of so tell me
more about the book. I have to chapter one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well, as we began doing our research. We realized that
the basic theories of what UFOs are and the UFO
facts that we were able to glean weren't in alignment.
They weren't making sense together. And as you know, whenever
there's a theory that doesn't make sense, you have to
throw it.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Out by.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So we came up with the theory that UFOs are
not coming here from distant star systems. They are being
launched from inside the planet, and they are launched by
aliens that are a breakaway branch of humanity.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's why we call them cousins, because they are actually
a breakaway branch of humanity from twelve and fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
We separated from us, we believe because of the Great Flood.
We think, you know, you know, like the movie Deep Impact,
right the President frem and Morgan fredys, there's an ass
there's an asteroid coming that's going to kill us, all right,
plan as the Hollywood heroes go blow up the asteroid,
but Plan B is to sink these deep underground bunker
(25:18):
city things. Others yes all around, and they call them
arcs in the movie, and they're they're you know, they're
doing one in China and Russia and you know, America, Australia,
and we think that this is exactly what happened, almost
except that it was a comet. The uh, the Younger
Dryas comet has now been correctly dated to twelve thousand,
(25:41):
eight hundred and fifty years ago. And a comet impact
is you know, their comets are dirty snowballs, right, the
Younger Dryas was a sixty two mile wide dirty snowball
with rocks, traveling at.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Forty thousand miles an hour, and when they hit our atmosphere,
the snow melts.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Away, and it's just these huge boulders hurtling at us,
and it struck all along the eastern seaboard of this country,
in the Atlantic Ocean and in western Europe. The resulting
tsunamis would have been about one thousand foot high and
running rushing to every coastline in the world at five
(26:25):
hundred miles an hour. It would have been incredibly devastating.
And we think that all of us surface people, the
people who weren't lucky enough to be underground, it almost
wiped us out and shoved us back into the Stone Age.
But prior to thirteen thousand years ago, we think humanity
was fairly well advanced. It's just that all evidence of
(26:49):
this advancement had been scraped off the surface of the
world except some of the megalithic architecture. That makes no sense,
right because it's the most is the biggest stuff, right.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And so the things that back our theory up is
that Number one, the combat has been found has been dated.
Number two, the boundary line that's found in twelve thou
eight hundred year old soil all around the world in
ten different countries, four different continents so far, shows that
the all the forests of the northern Hemisphere were on
(27:23):
fire at the same time.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
It's called conflagration, right, the Great conflagration, yea, like the
Ragnarock stories. You know, first it's like fire and brimstone,
and then you know a thousand years of where you
don't see the sun, you know. But what happens is
is that these rocks, because they're traveling so fast, the
air in front of them super heats and it actually.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Ignites the oxygen in the air and equal everything from
the fire.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
You know. So there's physical there's actual physical evidence also too.
With with genetics, we've been able to find now that
at that time period there was a huge genetic bottleneck
that occurred. In other words, the human race was reduced
to about ten thousand individuals at that time. So they're
(28:15):
all these these factors that fit together. That and also
too the other thing too, about the twelve hundred different
flood myths, and they almost all start the same way.
They almost all start the same way that a disembodied
voice or a god or god emissary said, you've got
to either go to high ground, you've got to build
an arc, or you've got to dig underneath the ground,
which is what they did in darren Coou in the
(28:37):
Onatolian Flats in Turkey. They built this underground city complex
thirteen stories deep and nobody knows how they did it,
and it connects to other underground cities that are about
fifteen miles apart. So but see it all. They all
start with four warning, which means somebody had to know
a year and a half to two years at probably
(28:57):
at least to give four war needs to be able
to build these things. And the almost in the same
way too. About thousand years later or whatever it was
that an emissary came from the skies, which they really didn't.
But basically like the Vericoaches or the Quetzcatles or whatever,
to basically give back civilization to mankind.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
We think that they they were safe underground, and people
ask us, well, why did they not just come back
up to the surface after the impact, And the answer
is the horrible climate the especially when it hits the ground.
An celestial impact hits the ground or and the ice
sheet at the same time, it sends up billions of
(29:43):
tons of dust and water vapor up into the sky.
And the boundary after the Usella horizons charcoal whil of
the Ragnarok, there's eleven hundred years of it's called the
Younger dry Ass boundary on top of that, where you
wouldn't have been able to grow crops in the northern hemisphere.
(30:03):
And so we think they went underground to survive the commet,
but they stayed underground because of the horrible climate up above.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And then you get used to anything after you know,
humans we are anything, but you know, inventive, curious and
also adaptable. You know, you get a couple of generations. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, you spent a couple of generations. You know,
your kids are all they're going to know is that
you know the city of Agartha or whatever you know, say, well,
then the surface becomes both you know, curious but also scary.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So we think they bred after a few generations, you'd
have an entire population of a guraphobes that are afraid
of the of the.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Sky, yeah, or where they come from?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Right? So yeah, so they the facts started to point
and then and also to their why they're so so
easy for them to breathe with us, and why they
are so interested in our genetics? And you start putting
these pieces together and.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Why they're seen so often? Right, if they're coming here
from Arcturus and the Pleiades and the Serious and Ryan,
then why do we see them ten thousand times a year,
you know, every year going back maybe thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Oh they go back, Yeah, and that's why is because
they live here with us.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They are from other stars.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Do you think for now, you know, I'm gonna bring
it back full circle. Do you think that these these
entities that come up and and engage with your family
are your ancestors from before?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, I've pondered that. I say, you know that they
could we could have some probably do have some genetic
genetic material in common, you know, I mean, but I
can tell you also too that they're interested in people
that have fairly pure blood. It seems to be too
mean they you know, it's it's so funny. You see
(31:55):
some of these vampire movies and the vampire phenomena, if
you just look at it for what it is. You know,
they come at night, they're powerful, They paralyze you, they
take your DNA, your blood, and they continue to prey
on you and families. It's just the same thing as
what the alien, what our caller cousins do, Okay, with those.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Of the vampire and the sucuitus and this incubi and
the incubus and all of these and the demons. We
think all of these.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Mythos arose from the abduction phenomenon, and our blood is
becoming more and more tainted, you know, because more and
more people are using drugs, whether you know, recreational or not,
drinking alcohol, smoking, you know, whatever, and we're just at
all the toxins in our food.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
So literally, I think that they that's one of the
reasons why they target younger people that are healthier, have
stronger jing and chi, and like I wasn't taking any
medications at that time in my life. Zero could run
a five minute mile blindfolded if I wanted to. And
so it's like I was.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I was.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
My dream was very pure and very potent. Okay, so
yeah there, you know, it's like anything else, you want
to take the best. And you know, if I've been
taking a lot of medications, I probably wouldn't have had
the same type of interaction. You know.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's one of our theories too, that you were in
a military.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, I just I did six years in the Navy
as a CD from eighty.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Thank you, thank you for your servicer, Thank you very much. Yeah. Wow,
I want to know more. I want to know more.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know what, you know what?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, what's the beautiful part. You're not just the
person the people that come on the show or other
podcast show and speak on I saw aliens, aliens subducting me,
my family, this and that. Here's my bug. No, you're
showing me a little bit of history and then you
bring the research bro you bring historical facts, dates, names,
and then you haven't even mentioned your book. You're telling
(33:53):
me all of it, all the information. You're you're info
dumping right now, and that is what I look, this
is why I love doing this stuff, because yeah, you'll
get those people that that are just trying to push
their content. They're just trying to make a book. That's while.
You do have those, you know, and I cherish those
two those people also, But I cherish even more this
type of content because people are not there. They're gonna
(34:13):
get a full presentation of who you are, what you're
giving out, and also they're gonna relate this information. This
is what I have to say. You need to take
five seconds every day and stop scrolling on TikTok, watching
ass and go to a search bar and find out
the information for yourself. Hashtag look it up. That's the
phrase here on the show. Now, coming on a close,
(34:37):
I like to do about thirty five to forty five
minute episodes, keeping it short because I respect check in
your time, guys. What's next? What's next for you for
the journey?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, just two weeks ago, I got this wild hair
up my ass, and I decided to write a screenplay
based on our theories too, So I just finished that
like two days ago, you know the and now I'm
just kind of tweaking it here and there.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And also too, we've just recently had we did contact
in the desert again the Heroes Vendors, and we we
met the guy who's part of the Alien Carvings group,
the ones that go down to Mexico and Central America
and even down to Peru, and they're finding these these
ancient artifacts that date from between two thousand and even
(35:25):
up to thirty five thousand years old depending how deepe
gole in the soil. Magnificent pieces and some of these
glow under a dark body. They glow, they glow vibrant green.
They'd found chest sets that are one hundred and eighty
pounds that are like with different pieces whatever and alien
all these things.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
We bought one of them.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It was kind of a little expensive, five hundred bucks,
but it's worth it because these things are encrusted with
precious gems and they have the faces of the grays
and the onanachy and you know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Carvings too, and Sumerian ancient proto Sumerian hieroglyphic.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
And they're fantastic. They are mind blowing. It's Aliencarvings dot com. Yeah,
and the other.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Two different guys from them from Mexico have been on
our show recently and we're very proud of those episodes.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, they both live. One lives in Washington and one
lives here in California. But you know, they actually are
like the modern day Indiana. Jones could go down there
to meet the population. They literally have to find out
what the real information is.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So they learn the.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Language and they go up into the hills, they do
the digging, they do all the stuff, they bring it
back and then you know the Mexican government is they
were just saying, oh, these are just tourist things. They
think it's a it's a hoax.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But a lot of these precious stones are inlaid with
a glue made some plant matter, and they've been able
to carve and date them between nine and twenty five
thousand years oldands of years before anyone is supposed to
be building pyramid complexes in that.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Those old mechs, I'm telling you man, those all I
did a deep research. I call it deep research for
my level of research on the old mex Oh my goodness, bro. Yeah,
they would leave they would leave their memory in their
memory in frequency in stone. So when you would touch
(37:24):
the stone and you brub it in a certain way
to tell a song. Oh, my god, the frequency bro.
It's just who does that? You know, who thinks of
this stuff? And they left them their memories on literally
on stone. It's very You have a show. I didn't.
I didn't even know this. You had a podcast show.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, we're on the Gnostic TV net.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, we've done about.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
At gnostictv dot com and it's called Abductions one oh one.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well, it's called Abductions one on one UFOs and the
Paranormal Connection.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's on your shirt and make sure you check them out, guys,
more more time. Where can they find you?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And they are here.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Mine is Leslie dot Shaw dot author for our Instagram
and Facebook, and from there you can find pretty much
anything else about us. We do have a website Who
they arebook dot com, and we have the documentary menory
that was made about us. It's called Who They Are.
It's now on Roku, flex, Apple TV. Some f awesome
(38:26):
and fossome documentary.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right right names by Sky Island Storytelling. They've won quite
a few awards for their documentaries.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's on I gotta check it out.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It was on YouTube first. I had about four hundred
thousand views on it and then it got.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Picked up by rope the TV.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm gonna go check it out. I have to go
check it out. Guys. I get you were going to
say something, Steve.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Oh no, I can't remember at this point. It's this.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
They are here. You said something about your shirt and oh.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, yeah, they are they are here. Yeah, this is
one of our designs. Here alien at the bar saying
I'll have the I'll have.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
The crickets and gray with the side of flies.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I think I love it, and human blood to digest
it to drink.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yes. So the very fact that you know they are
coming from other solar systems or other planets, even the
substrate and the bacterium in those planets which determine what
our digestive systems are going to be, it's they They
would just they would be under attack immediately. Their immune
systems would be under attack from our bacterium on this planet.
(39:30):
And also genetically to build the breed, you have to
be ninety nine point ninety seven percent the same to
throw a viable offspring. You can't just like make you know,
like even a tiger and a lion, you know, they
throw sterile offspring. So anybody that would be coming and
bothering my family for one hundred and forty years, for
(39:51):
four generations. Uh, isn't coming from our tourists just for
the fun of it, just to see. Oh, let's let's
give this guy some sleepless knights and still some of
the sperm.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
And what you know? You for the truly alien civilization
me with so much human DNA. But if you're a
breakaway branch of humanity, maybe becoming sterile living underground for
so long, you would need regular infusions of human DNA
from surface dwellers.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
He who controls the genetics of a planet controls the planet.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Or or or they're using it. I like the fact
that I like to point out that you said to
be produce or maybe to learn how to adapt back
for the surface right.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Possible deintegration might be one of their goals.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I love it. Sure you check them out, ladies and gentlemen,
Leslie and Stephen Shaw. They came to murder it. You
guys killed it. It was a beautiful conversation. I love they.
Make sure you check out their book, check out their channels,
and you can find them on the description of the show.
I want to thank you again for your time, for
your amazing wisdom for all your research and continue doing
what you're doing. You guys are really kicking ass out there.
You gotta you fan in me. I'm gonna check out
(41:02):
your stuff on Roco literally later on today. I probably
watch it with my oldest I want to thank you
again from the bottom of my heart. This means the
world podcasting for me save me. I'm sober now. I'm
my best version of myself because of the show, because
of Jesus as well, but because of the show, and
I maintain busy idle hands are someone else's business, so
ladies and gentlemen, make sure you check them out and
(41:22):
drop a five star review. And I have a podcast
on a Spotify that allows other people to enjoy the
show as much as I enjoy making it.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Peace Peace, That was good, Bro.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That was good
Speaker 1 (41:35):
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