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April 23, 2025 49 mins
I sit down with the gold-slinging, truth-dropping Tony Arterburn to talk money—real money. We dive into gold, economics, and why tariffs aren’t just for pirates. Tony breaks down the monetary system like it's a bad relationship, and we get real about money education, life, emotions, and those weird passions that keep us sane. It’s part econ class, part therapy session, and 100% worth your time. Bring a notebook—and maybe some gold coins.


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legendary Tony Harderburn.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
How's it going, bro, I'm doing great. I appreciate you
having me.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
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up and for arranging this amazing podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I always thank her. She's the reason I do about
seventy five percent of the media that I do, so yeah,
shout out to her.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Good stuff. Man, Hey, you're a character. I see that
you have a large following. You're doing great work out there.
Tell me a little bit about you and where can
people find you?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I was a US Army paratrooper, a military policeman. I
was a veteran of three foreign wars, and I got
back home in two thousand and four and decided I
was going to start some businesses. I tried all kinds
of things in real estate and fast food and convenience stores,
you name it. And I think my love of history

(02:28):
coming up through the military and just seeing the things
that I saw and reading the books that I read,
and I drifted into precious metals, understanding the root cause
of a lot of what we research, and alternative media.
You know, they say, you know, follow the money. What's
literally true. You've followed the money and the source of
the money supply itself? Who controls that? And it became

(02:52):
a fascinating journey for me. I'm very thankful for what
I get to do every day, and that's take people
out of fake fiat currency and put them into real,
actual precious metals or cryptocurrency like bitcoin.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
And that's been my life's calling.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
That in broadcasting, I also did powerlifting for a number
of years when I was a kid, and I was
on the US team and I set some world records
and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I've had an interesting life.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm forty five years old now, get up every day
and try to make sense of the zeitgeist to you know,
break down and deco the dystopia.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's a full time job.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I love it, love what I do.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Having a full time job doing what you love is
actually not so bad.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's actually a good problem to have, bro.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
And thank you so much for your service, dude, feed
them eat free.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I appreciate that, Bro, because.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Some people like you, I get to do what I
want today and live freely and have WiFi and and
you know, live for access to America.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
It takes all of us collectively together. You know, the
price of liberty is eternal vigilance, and we need so
much more of that. Awareness of what's actually going on,
not what the machine wants you to think or wants
you to interpret, is reality. You have to think for yourself,
and it's not good enough just to listen to me
or you or anybody else.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
People have to think for themselves. Thank you for That's
a discernment. That's something real hard to come by nowadays. Yeah,
very hard.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have some bullet points here.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You are here in and out real quick to drop
bombs and make deposits into the Bank of knowledge. You
have some information behind closed vaults, the untold story of
the life before inflation and the hijacking of the monetary
system by elites in the nineteenth century.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Woo ooh.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, it's been an age old game. I mean, this
is always the cyclical part of history. You know, there's nations,
great empires rise on sound money, and that would be
like gold or silver, limited supply value in and of itself,
scare precious That's the reason they call them precious metals.
They rise on sound money and things like economic nationalism

(05:07):
making things production, and they die they decline on fiat currency,
which is fiat means by decree in Latin means, they say,
so they die on fake money, and they die on
things like free trade policies. And I'm all for free markets,
but there's something completely different there. Those are the two
things I put together as far as like cyclical history,

(05:28):
and you can see it over and over again, repeating
this pattern of rise and fall and we're in this
period of decline. This is the fall part of the
empire system that we're currently in.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
So you know, history is a pack of lies agreed upon.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
There's so many great quotes on that was something Napoleon
said that history was a pack of lies agreed upon.
But I like something that I learned from Pat Buchanan,
and that was the only lesson we learned from history,
is that we do not learn from history, and so
that's what the pattern continues. And so I think we're
just in a really interesting time where you're seeing the

(06:08):
death of currency in general. Because something interesting happened in
nineteen seventy one. Richard Nixon interrupts an episode of Bonanza
on August fifteenth, nineteen seventy one. Ironically, it's a show
about people going out west to find gold and silver,
and he takes us off the gold standard. He takes
us he closes the gold window what he claimed to

(06:29):
be temporary. And at the time gold was pegged to
the dollar at thirty five dollars announce and we were
the world's reserve currency. So all over the world you
can get announced gold for thirty five dollars. By the
end of the nineteen seventies. From from seventy one to
seventy nine, gold was eight hundred dollars announce. But here's
the real rub, the part of the story that you

(06:51):
don't get taught in school. Gold didn't go up in value.
So what happened was that's the loss of the purchasing
power of the dollar against a fixed asset. And that's
the reason, like the founding fathers put gold and silver
in the Constitution of the United States, because there's been
so many experiment experiments throughout history of showing that fiat

(07:13):
currency is not only does it not work, it's pure
evil because it robs you of your energy and your
work and your future, while a group of elite benefit
like parasitically off of everything that you do. And that's
why in the Constitution of the United States it calls
upon only Congress can coin money, and it has to

(07:34):
be gold and silver. And so that's why things like
the Federal Reserve Bank, it's not a bank, but that's
what they called it, a federal reserve. It's not federal
and it's not a reserve. That was enacted in nineteen thirteen,
But there was a whole series of conspiracy to get
us there to that point of the received nineteen thirteen when.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
That was Titanic through.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
So there's a.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Massive conspiracy that was to hijack the money supply outside
the constitution and the framework of the republic that was
set up here in this country. And that's why we
have the problems that we do today.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I mean, every.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Conspiracy that you're tracking all tracks back to this I
call it. I say, Fiat is fake. It's the head
of the snake. I make it rhyme. That's something I
started doing, you know, six seven years ago on radio.
I said, no, think about that. So everything that we
do it tracks back to this fake fiat currency that
floats around and literally robs you of your future. And

(08:30):
while select group get richer and richer when I buy
more and more assets, and you work harder and harder
to make less and less, and eventually the system implodes
and they'll do a reset, which they actually call it that.
They call it the Great Reset right to it faces,
Rob Yeah, they just bring it up right to your face.
And I try to remind people. Let say, okay, what
was the inflation rate, Let's say, from the time of

(08:50):
George Washington to the time of you know, the turn
of the twentieth century. So they say, you know, it
was seventeen ninety eight tonight two and what was the
inflation rate?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Zero?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
So I mean if you bought, you know, a set
of clothes to go see George Washington's inaugural, you'd pay
the same in nineteen oh two. Okay, So there's no inflation.
And the reason is we had a bimetallic gold and
silver standard, and inflation is not part it's not supposed
to be a part of Actually, the prices of goods

(09:27):
in a free market should go down because things should
be deflationary. There should be better ways to make something
more cost effective. There's always a you know, bringing that
to market. But because we live in the upside down,
things get more expensive, things get more bloated, and projects
that shouldn't be built are built projects that should be built,

(09:47):
aren't you understand? Like entertainers, politicians like these are propped
up by fake money. So like the worst of us.
So you know, if you had, if you had accountability
at some level, that's why once you see you see
the metrics from nineteen seventy one on, and of course
you can have whatever opinion you want on the space program,

(10:10):
but we didn't go back to the moon after nineteen
seventy two. You know, there was so much lost in
science and technology, and it had to do with exactitude
engineering other things. We made some advances here and there,
but not on a whole like and so this is
an interesting thing to examine what happened to society after

(10:30):
nineteen seventy one. It's very destructive. And that's why I
say it's not it's not merely an economic problem. It's
a spiritual problem to have people at the top being
able to control the money supply in the way that
they do. So I love what I get to do.
This is the historical examples. But you know, you throw
out quotes like Mayor Amshel Rothschild from the nineteenth century.

(10:52):
Should I care not who sits on the British throne.
The person who controls the British Empire is the person
who controls the British money supply. And I controlled the
British money supply. That's a real quote. You got to
think about that.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
That's pretty evil, Like you control them.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Straight forward too, right, right.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So, uh, it's an interesting time to be alive. I
think a lot of this is coming out in the open.
You know, it's not a perfect world. We're never going
to have the perfect spokesman or the perfect political movement
or anything like that. But every year I see a
rise in consciousness that they you know, they overlords they have.
I think they have a really hard time suppressing. Even

(11:31):
with the technology and even with the censorship and controlled opposition,
I think they really still do.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Have a problem. Once once your mind.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Is open to a certain level, a new level of thought,
it can never close back to its original size, right
back to its dimensions. So that's why I like I
get people to think, like I'm not talking at people.
I want to have a conversation, Like, let's talk about
why history is the way it is. I mean, do
you think it's organic, Like we're taught in school that

(12:01):
everything's an accident, we're all floating around. I don't believe that.
I mean, I think a big portion of history is
absolutely controlled. So you know, there's so much to impact there,
whether you're talking about the history of the monetary system
or the history of the deep state, And they go
together like peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah. Time.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I think one of the biggest conspiracy theories of all
time is time the way they set it up because
they can control what you're consuming.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
They can control when you put your money in and out.
They can control how much they pay you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
When they pay you, when you have to go get
whatever you need to get to you could.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Pay, they could pay you.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
And then the timing predicts how much you're gonna getai,
how much they're gonna tax you, how you're gonna spend
that money, how your kids are gonna spend that money,
and then the habits and then the trends, and then
the consumption for your kids, and then your kids are
medically induced and they're under pharmaceutical because they're chemically unbalanced,
because they are eating the wrong foods, because you are
giving them the wrong food because it's cheap for you
to give them the wrong foods. It's a freaking wheel.

(13:05):
They got you coming in, going bro. I have this
joke kiss the band has you. They used to have
their faces on caskets and condoms.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
They got you coming in going bro.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
It's hard true. Yeah. They used to call that. What
was it? I heard that?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh gosh, some show from the nineties. They called it
like a logo. Feces or something like that. It's just
they put the logo on everything and so corporatized. They
bring that up in Fight Club, you know, like the corporations.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Very very inspiratorial movie as well. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
They take over of the education system, the entertainment, what
we consume every single day, the money, the way we
spend our money. Even some some even want to push
the envelope on the how we how we worship. They've
been infiltrated, They've infiltrated the churches, they've infiltrated most of

(14:04):
the most impactful religions in the world, and they've made
a mockery of us and where we have Stockholm syndrome,
bro where we're in love with our with our enslaver
we have. I've talked about I'm not a very religious man,
but now that I'm sober, I've reached a height in
my life. And I called it a height because I've
never I've tried getting high. I've tried drinking, I've tried women,

(14:26):
I've tried different things in life, but I've never tried
a little Jesus. And now that I look, I turned
out the Bible. I look at the Bible and I
don't look at the Bible looking for a spiritual guidance.
I look at the Bible looking for a conspiracy theory, bro,
and I find that everything that we have been living through,
or at least myself in my thirty four years of life,
I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Holy crap, it was written before there. It's the stories
right there. Everything.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, the only Harry Truman was channeling King Solomon.
We said, the only thing new under the sun is
the history you don't know all right there?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, interesting stuff, dude.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I have another point here, Munetta's If I'm butchering this up, guys,
please excuse me.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Hashtag look it up.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Monetta's whisper how the Roman god god is name name
Echos and timeness warning in money?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Whoa, this is historical?

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah it's a So.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I read about the history of currency and money all
the time, and one of one of my favorite things
to source was the actual Like, that's one of thing
I wanted to know. When I was a young soldier
and started reading history, I was like, wait, I'm interested
in money. And my dad was an entrepreneur. He built things,
he built a bank, he chartered things. You know, he

(15:41):
was a guy that worked harder than I've ever seen anybody.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Work in my life.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
And I was always in I was you know, I
knew if you had a thought in here, if you
could think it up and then you could believe in
your solar plexus that it would, you could make it reality.
You could build a building, you could build a house,
You could make something that wasn't because you thought it
and believe it.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
So I always believe that. But I always wanted to
know where does money come from?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Like what is that?

Speaker 4 (16:04):
How do we assign value to that? What is it?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
And so that all throughout the years of my study
of history. One of the stories that I love to
tell us is around the the timelines off this. But
at the fourth century BC and the Romans were at
war with the Gauls, which is the modern you know,
that would be the modern day French today, and they

(16:28):
were guarding the palace.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Of uh.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Was Juno at the time it was.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
It was a sanctuary of palace, a citadel, and when
they were about to be attacked the geese, these geese
flew over and honked, and it warned the Roman soldiers
that there was about to be a sneak attack, and
they were able to ward it off. And so after
that attack was repelled, they renamed the cathedral. They renamed

(17:04):
it for the goddess Monetta, which she was the goddess
of warning. Okay, and that's where they made the first money.
That's where they've made the first mint, so that that's
where the coins came from, so that that particular religious
structure that was named after the goddess Monetta became money.

(17:27):
So money is Netta so interesting enough? Your money is
a warning to the society and the relationship that it
has to you. So like that's one of the things
I thought was so mind blowing about that, Like this
root word of the money or mint out of that

(17:49):
renaming of the structure was actually something that we could
think about today. Our money, what we think of is
money is an actual warning. It's funny, I mean, it's
really history has all sorts of twists and turns like that,
but literally watching you know, if you want to know
how how are.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Your society doing? What kind of money you have?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Uh, are you are you on a hamster wheel where
it's completely devaluing all the time and you have these
super elite creating out of thin air sitting keys on
a keyboard. Well, yeah, just printing into oblivion or do
you have to account for it? Does it have to
match up to something?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is there? Is there?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, they call it sound money for a reason
we call gold and silver because of the sound that
it makes. It makes an intrinsic ring. It's not just
that it sound like it's you know, solid, it's there's
a sound that it makes very distinct sound. So all
that's really important to understand where you are. Like, it's like,
we're gonna have the tariff, right, We're gonna put tear

(18:51):
I like tariffs, by the way, but let's still it.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
We're gonna have tariffs.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
And some people say tariffs are bad, some people say
tariffs are good. It's gonna tank them mart whatever. Well,
you can't fix the system until you fix.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
The money right and where it's and you can't.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Fix the political system until you fix the money. If
we go to fix the money, there's going to be
it would be a it'd be a total revolution of
our timeline if we actually went to go fix the
money right now. And that that's what's so interesting and
what makes what I do important, I believe, or at
least fulfilling as a calling is I like to talk

(19:29):
to people about you know, this history and why it's
important for you to understand it so you don't get
caught off guard. Why you need to understand the difference
between currency and money. It's very important to understand the
difference between currency and money. You can have both, right,
they can be both. They can be both currency and money.

(19:49):
But today we have currency without being money also and
money by the way, money in and of itself should
have a value outside of them on tray system like
my You know, I have a wearing a gold coin.
It's interesting enough if you can see it on camera.
This gold coin was minted in nineteen seventy nine. If

(20:11):
you zoomed in, you'd see that it has the hammer
and sickle on. It's a Soviet Russian gold coin. So
the gold coin outlasted the government, right, it outlasted the
economic system in which it was produced. But by the
end of night, so that from nineteen seventy one to
nineteen seventy nine, gold went from thirty five dollars an
ounce to eight hundred dollars an own.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
So I got a piece of that history around my name,
and it reminds me of.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
The permanence of something like gold and temporary transitory things
like governments and fiat currency.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
So just a little history lesson there. You know, the.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Money in and of itself should be valuable outside of
a bank, like should be. You know, you can use
gold for jewelry, you can use it for electronics, you
can use it for medicine, same thing with silver. So
regardless if it's a monetary metal, it also has other uses.
It has an intrinsic value in and of itself in scarcity.

(21:15):
Today's fiat currency doesn't do that, and it constantly loses value.
So these are the little This is giving enough information
for people to get interested, to learn for themselves.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And to hit you up so that you can teach them.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Well, I like to That's what I do all I'm
on the phone usually all day, or I'm on conference calls,
and that's.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
What I love to do.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Political paralysis, the currency versus money debate and its impact
on freedom.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I come from an era.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, if money it wasn't everything, you know, I'll be
playing outside instead of being on my phone. You know,
it was more of an analog place to live and
wouldn't having in it at least not my household, and.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It wasn't as privileged.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
And now that I see how things are evolving in
my kids, my kids will never ever be able to
experiment playing basketball outside without wanting to know what social
media is or partake into it. Right, it's a horrible
place because we lost a piece of that. I could
only tell them about it. So give him moment here

(22:29):
lost my chin of thought. The impact on freedom. The
more time advances and technology keeps progressing, we tend to
be replacing the word freedom with safety. And then COVID happened,

(22:50):
and then we forgot about our freedoms, We forgot about
the rights that made us free, and we decided to
completely engulf into safety. People are more they're happy feel
feeling safe than actually having freedom than walking around strapped. Basically,
you know they'd rather be the rather would just feel
safe while they're enslaver.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
And but what is the prilices? Political prisis bro Well.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I think that this has a lot to do with
the conversation we were having in general, is that when
you when you leave accountability and it is a free
for all, it makes it harder and harder to have
transparency because you can bury it under a mountain of corruption.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Donald Rumsfeld came out on September tenth, two thousand and one,
very famously and said that the Pentagon could not track
two point three trillion dollars. Okay, this is in two
thousand and one, the day before nine to eleven, and
he said, you know, they told that the Pentagon had
put together an accounting team and they're going to be

(23:57):
at this wing in the Pentagon, and the next day
whatever hit the Penon hit that office.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I like the way you said that whatever hit the
Pentagon because you don't know. I don't know, And you know.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Fun fact about me.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I was part of the first Army unit on the
ground in Afghanistan after nine to eleven, But originally I
was in the unit that was supposed to go that
was going to have to go to the Pentagon immediately
following nine to eleven. So in a different timeline i'd
be able to tell you what I saw because my
unit that I was with I just happened to be
in Bulgaria at the time, representing the US on the

(24:32):
American powerlifting team. So that unit that I was with
went to the Pentagon, and then they put me to
another unit that happened to be the first army company
on the ground in Candora, Afghanistan. So I got to
see some of that frontline history. And I mean, I
don't believe that a plane struck the Pentagon, just I
just don't, just given every bit of nine to eleven

(24:55):
research that I've done, and I can't.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
I mean, but who knows, they don't.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
It's the most one of the most heavily surveilled buildings
in the world, and you don't. The only c that
you have is this streak going across. Yeah, it's hard
to say, you know, hard to say what the hell's
going on there, but it's a bizarre thing. And you know,
nine to eleven's another thing to unpack. But it has
a lot to do with the era in which we live,

(25:21):
or error in which we live, and I think a
lot of this ties back to the controllers and what
they do with.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
The money supply.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I often cite there's another weird rabbit hole of history
that I think is interesting, and in nineteen eighty six
that somebody was at an estate sale and they bought
an IBM used IBM copier, and inside the IBM copier

(25:51):
was one draft that had been left in there as
the original. That was somebody had made a copy of
of a technical manual they did nineteen seventy nine. Of course,
that's the birthday of the Illuminati, not May first, seventy nine,
but May first, seventeen seventy six. But they have this document.
It's a technical manual called Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.

(26:14):
And that's a real story, by the way, So whether
the manual is real or not, but that story about
somebody finding it and then making copies of it, because
it's a bizarre document. I encourage your audience to read
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, whether or not it was
meant to be a true technical manual or something, but
somebody wrote it and it wasn't for mass production. Literally

(26:35):
found in a copy here and it has the first
chapter is all about what I just discussed, and it's
the transference, the transmutation of energy from money from people.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. I wasn't expecting you hit in
this conspiratory to talk that deep.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
That's the funny stuff, man, I mean, that's like it's
an es. So if you believe in God or not,
do you think it get's like you believe in evil?
Do you believe that there's light and dark? Do you
believe that there that real? Are you just you know, Oh,
it's just all a conspiracy. There's a lot of conspiracies
that are stupid, okay, And there's a lot of alternative

(27:14):
media that's pretty dumb, and you can get on some
weird things, and I don't but anything that if you're
listening to me. I've researched it, I've read it, I've
thought about it, I've run it through several different you know, counterbalances,
and I can't prove everything that I talk about, but
I feel like that it's closer to the truth than

(27:35):
anything that's I try to do that. But that's the
true thing. And it cites the Rothschilds and how they
use that to basically create the modern reality that we have.
And it just shows people as cogs and a machine
to achieve putting their energy out into the system, absorbed

(27:56):
by the monetary system because it's ever evaporating parasitically, right,
enhancing the elites instead of us having a a more
stable across the board level playing field. And so it's
an interesting document and I like to people to go
check that out. It's not a long read, but it

(28:17):
is looking at it's looking at you know, the technical manual,
like a how to on genocide, you know, and uh
and enslavement.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
And the first chapter is about money.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
So that's where you start, right, you start with the
monetary system is it's not just about metrics or numbers
or economics.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
It's it's a spiritual thing.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
They went from they went from owning black folks too
on all folks in a sense.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
There's stakes that you know, steaks on the table, that's
the cattle, you know, like that's the terms that are
using that book. It's just meant for like you are.
You are a cog in a machine. It's like George
Carlin said, it's like it's a big club and you.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Ain't in it.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Oh man, right, great quotes, but it's it's a very
small fraction, fraction of a fraction of people that have
this sort of control. I mean, most people are just
trying to make a living and putting their kids through school.
They're working a job, they're doing the best they can,
and you know, time is ever disappearing. It's harder and
harder to you know, you get a weird guy like

(29:29):
me who's at home alone with his chihuahua and you know,
listening to old books and watching documentaries and.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Doing this for a living, you know. So I you know,
God's been real good to me, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I just certain sacrifices that you make when you're me,
you know, and I've made those and I love what
I do, and uh, you know, I should lean more
into it. But I find that to be say, if
you're aware of that, if you're aware of the con
then it's a lot easier to get ahead. It's a
lot of easier to understand. And look, I'm not aware

(30:02):
of everything, and I learned something new every single day.
I'm surprised by things every single day, and I'm thankful
every single day. Like I don't you know, there's a
big debate on are you red pilled, are you white pilled?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Or you black?

Speaker 6 (30:17):
It's like so many freaking pills now to you're just
popping pills. I say, take them all at once with
a monster, you know, or like like the see what
happens in the military, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I think I saw a meme and it was like
Morpheus's face when I take the red and the blue
pill at.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
The same time. I just think this the truck is creazy.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
It's like whoa.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, it's like being in the military, being combat vet,
you know, and you're out there just busting your ass,
and then there'll be you're hurting and they just give
you an eight hundred milligram motor in a in a
red bull, you know, or a cup of coffee or
whatever and dirt.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah. But yeah, it's an.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Interesting time to be alive and lots to be thankful
for too, So it's not all doom and gloom. I
think the systems changed. History is cyclical. You just have
like the timeline you're on.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
And I really believe I think everybody that's here right
now is meant to be here.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I think that if you're aware and you're helping people,
and you're trying to bring some good to this world
and do the best you can, you know you're you're
part of the solution, which is it's really not it's
really not hard to change the whole world.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
You just change how you interact with people every single day.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Try to It's tough, because you know, it's tough to
interact with human That's why when you talk about reading
the Bible, you read about New Testament and you read
about you know, of course Jesus was divine. Could you
imagine a human being can't do that? You know, it's like,
you know the level of kindness and understanding. And then
the one time he got angry and showed wrath was

(31:58):
the money changers in the temple, which is like, I
think I'm onto something. And by the way, he's the
only religious figure, icon whatever you want to call him,
of all the faith that did that.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
There's something to that, right.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's not just damn, it's there's something to that message
of the manipulation of value because it goes beyond monetary.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
You have to understand.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's not just to me.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
The more I learn about gold, silver, bitcoin, it's a
representation of energy. Energy is divine, Like you have God
in you. You're a piece of that having that experience,
and your your gift is your subconscious mind. So like
everything you speak into that's why in the beginning of

(32:46):
the Bible to be in the beginning was the word right,
So what you say, there's a magic to it. It's
why it's called spelling words or magic. And God intended that.
In my opinion, God intended that because that's your most
like God said you created man in his image. Then
if you're if you're created in God's image, you're a creator.

(33:07):
You're supposed to make things. And that doesn't mean you
make a business necessarily. That means you make things like
you have a family.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
You make things.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
You can build a house, you do it, whatever it is,
you can have whatever, you could journal, you could write,
whatever it is. But you're making something beautiful. It could
be just a beautiful day that you make for people
around you. And that's the expression of being most like God.
And that's why those things have to be killed off
with our current Satanic system, which is you know, Satan

(33:35):
literally just means adversary. So the adversary of us building
our best life is being robbed of our energy. It's
literally right there in front of you, and then everything
else is just a distraction. And if we understand, you
know how to get ahead by you know, every time
you and that's why our grandparents, that's why the country

(33:57):
was so much wealthier. You know, at the end of
World War I, too, we were five percent of the
world's population and weld we held fifty percent of the
world's wealth. Okay, that's not true.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
We're still five percent of the world's population or so,
but we don't hold fifty percent of the wealth.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
The wealth has been dispersed. Where did it go?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Well, it globalized and other things, but we lost it.
We lost it, and we work harder and harder for
less and less, and the wealth concentration and the disparity
of wealth grows. People say, well, that's you know, that's
why we need socialism. No, uh, the what if I
told here's.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
One of the fact your listeners don't leave with anything else.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Understand that things like communism, like Karl marks it, it's
in and of its in and of himself, was a
funded construct of the world's richest people. Every communist revolution
is funded by the world's wealth theists, most elite. Okay,

(35:03):
the Bolshevik revolution in Russia heavily financed, only financed by
the Warburgs, the ross Childs, the Rockefellers.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
You have to understand that this was a.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Reality that's not organic, that's set into motion Mal's China
nineteen forty nine, Rockefeller, ross Child and this is it's
like they fund communism. So when you see these so
called progressives, and by the way, the you know, not
a political it's not political at all. But nineteen thirteen

(35:38):
you get the income tax, sixteenth Amendment, you get the
Federal Reserve, you get the seventeenth Amendment was the direct
election of senators, and you also get the first free
trade policy in the United States. I call it the
four horsemen of the political apocalypse, and I started talking
about that when I ran for Congress in twenty thirteen.
So it's interesting to those that's all, by the way,

(36:00):
that's all part of the communist manifesto. Communism Marxism is
that is Satan's operating system in the material world through politics, and.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
It just means it's adversarial. It's there to rob you.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
And people think, well, that's for the little guy, or
that's for like we got to stand up eat the rich,
and like the rich fund the movements that you think
are going to eat them.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
So who is eating It's it's like a snake eating
its own tail.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
So think about that if you understand the history, Like
when I grew up as a kid, it was like
communism versus the versus the capitalists. Now the capitalists, the
wealthy elite, super elite. I'm not talking about your billionaires.
I'm talking about like trillionaires. Now there's a there's trillionaires
on this planet, folks. You just don't know who they are.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It's not Jeff.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Jeff Bezos is another richest guy, you know, an the
richest guy in the world. These are dynastic families tied
to generational wealth and they fund socialism. That's why there's
a socialism's continued. Like, you know, it's so funny. I
you know, politics bores me. Like I see the two
parties going at each other, and you'll see somebody like
AOC at the red carpet doing something and it's like,

(37:09):
you know, has that dresses eat the rich or tax
the rich or something, And I'm like, you know, the
rich fund everything. If they didn't want to be taxed,
they would do away with it.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
They love it. Okay, the rich have all the control
in politics. Why do you think the taxes go up because.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
They love it.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
They love it.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
They love the fact that you can't you can't compete
with them, you can't amass wealth like them, you can't
do anything that even rivals their control. So the next
time you have somebody from the left, it's saying, you know,
we've got a tax, tax tax guys, the elite run

(37:50):
that game.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
You got to stop with that. That's not how you
get it.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
That's what you got to do is you got to
have accountability, sound money, free markets, equal justice under law.
You start going after that transparency, then the little guy
wins or has a chance to win a lot better
off than if you're just playing into their hands, which
is when you're playing the political game, you're playing right
into their hands.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Literally, the only real currency is energy.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
It's your thoughts and your energy and your what you
make on this war in this world, whether it's widgets
or whether it's art or whatever it is, it's your energy.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Think about it. I want to keep you from being
able to get ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah you can't. You can't get ahead.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
You think I would have been struggling to get this
freaking podcast off the ground in five years if I
didn't have the time to do what I wanted and
really made me happy, if I didn't have to pay
the rent, if I didn't have to sacrifice more time
to be with my family and more time to provide.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's the time. It's your energy.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Interesting that that really is spiritual.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
It's not just you know, a lot of people stay
stuck on the finite, like what stock's gonna go up
right now? You know, I don't know, man, Like it's
just look at what you know, use your brain and
like what's trending in history. What's going to be They're
going to use more of something in the future or less?
You know, is it gonna be more blockbuster videos or less?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
You know?

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Like you know, like use your use your mind.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Like what's going to be more ubiquitous in the future.
You know, is it gonna be yeah, inline shopping centers
or AI you know, is it gonna be traditional manufacturing
or is it gonna have some sort of blended robotic
system and all this other stuff you use your use
your net, your head. But but more than that, it's

(39:43):
about having a spirit of autonomy for yourself and realizing that,
you know, you've got to your control of so much
of the reality that you create.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Huh, you're in control or the reality that you create?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yes, because that's the gift God gave you. I'm guilty
of not doing it.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And that's a deep one.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Every day I get up and I read.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
A little bit of stoicism or read the Bible. Right now,
I'm on the wisdom, but I'm rereading Job and psalms
and proverbs and other things. Job's an interesting book. He
has terrible friends. Read the Book of Job. It's like
what it's like, it'll make you just want to be
a loner.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
And his insecurities. Man, oh God, but.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Name and I mean it's got God and Satan just
being like, let's bet and see when this guy breaks.
You know, it's like that's just a really really bad
you know, it's like, that's not my view of God.
But it's there's lessons in there about you know, wisdom
in and of itself and the meaning of suffering and
other things. But yeah, every day, so I read.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Back in the.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Sixties and seventies, there was a guy named Joseph Murphy,
and he wrote The Power of Your Subconscious Mind, And
so twenty years ago I heard somebody on the radio
talk about it, and so twenty one years ago, and
I started reading that. So every day I read a
little bit of Joseph Murphy, and I got into some
of his like side projects and his other works from
like the sixties and seventies. And he died in like

(41:14):
nineteen eighty one, I think. But what an interesting guy.
But it's really you know, you put that. I put
that into my mind every day about what you speak
and you know, the words you use, the actions, your beliefs,
your emotions, like what do you put into reality? And
that's part of God's gift to you. And so outside
of the whole system of you know, economics, there's your energy.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
You're right. And it's.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
One of my favorite quotes is from the movie Wall
Street and well, actually it's Wall Street two. Michael Douglas,
you know, plays Gordon Gecko, and in the original Wall
Street he was like, you know, the most important thing
is information. And then by the time he became a
much older man twenty years later or whatever in nineteen

(42:03):
or two thousand and eight, and then when the movie set,
he says, I learned something. He's like, the most precious
commodity is not information.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
It's time.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Boom in back full circle the Bible, Biblical spies. I'm
telling you, bro, I'm freaking telling you, dude, And it
brings back full circle to time. What was it gonna
tell you? The ultimate conspiracy is blackmail. It's information. It's
what you can hold upon the other person. It's a

(42:37):
leverage always bro leverage.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
You could have a witch doctor and tell you tonight,
right now in front of your face, I could make
the dead rise, or I could have your your dead
mom talked to you at night by rubbing this crystal ball. Buddy,
they have some type of leverage on you that doesn't
sididify anything.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
They have that power that came with that.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
As a lot of people abscrisscribe there's power in another person,
but there's not like not a witch or a witch
doctor or a soothsayer or anybody that can do anything
to you.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
It's impossible because you have to believe it like they had.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Joseph Murphy tells stories about the gold mines in Africa,
and this was back in the sixties. If somebody stole
from the mind, they'd have the witch doctor come and
hand them a note and says you die at six
pm today, And they'd sit there and die because they
believed that the witch doctor cursed them, and they would
literally there's power. The suggestion is so powerful, and that's

(43:39):
why you got to stand at the door of your
mind like a soldier and keep this garbage out of it.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Like you know, when the mass media and I go
through so much of the.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
News, and it's just it's so much propaganda and warfare
on your mind, like getting you to believe in lockstep with.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
With the mass.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
And that's the way they want you. They want you
at each other's throats. They want you broke, they want.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
You placing so much value on an external system when
it's an internal system, which is you. That makes the difference.
And the reason I'm you know, I do what I
do with the metals and crypto and stuff is I
just think that that's more in line with what God
intended is because we all have to do something under

(44:26):
the sun. We toil, we do whatever, you know, and
we want to show something for our work. And I
call the the monetary system, I call the dollars. I
call them Luciferian bankster notes lbns. So there's a reason
for that hashtag.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Looked that up and I'm gonna make sure to use
that on the next episode. I'm gonna say something real
quick right now.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's LBMs. It's funny. It's funny how how things are
turning out.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And there's there's never been another perfect moment in life
to put this in for animation out than now.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
The thirst for real and truth and tools to combat
the elite. The thirst for it is real today.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
It's more real than ever. And it's funny because I
see it in a podcast. I see more people tuning in,
and one person that consume, who consumes one podcast can
consume to another podcast. And I'm not special by any way,
even though I am, but I'm not. The point is
right now is the time to consume, to re educate,

(45:31):
and to pass on the word, to utilize the tools
that God has given us, the messengers like yourself that
God has sent. And with that, I want you to
please plug it in.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
What is it that you do? Where can people find you?
And what's popping? What's next?

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Again? Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
It's always been a pleasure speaking with you, and I'd
love to come back on some time. I always love
to talk about the things that animate me. But you
can my website to find my podcast and links to
my shows is just my last name dot gold.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
You go to Arterburn dot gold.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You can also look up my company, which is wise
Wolf Gold and Silver. And we did something a little
different with our precious metals. We actually have a subscription
program that is unlike anything anybody else has starts as
low as fifty dollars a month and it goes all
the way up to five thousand. We have everybody from
across the spectrum that buys from us like that automatically

(46:29):
of a fourteen hundred people across the country, that's just
my members for the subscription. But we did that a
little different and nobody else really does that. You know,
a lot of the gold and silver companies, they just
they target people with a lot more than fifty bucks.
And I love my customers so and we're educational company too,

(46:49):
So you can you can check that out by going
to Arterburn dot gold or just googling in wise Wolf,
gold and Silver. You'll be able to find any of
the available links. And if you got you know, you
can reach out to my staf.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
But that's all we do.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
We got two physical locations, one in Texas, one in Missouri.
And I stayed busy podcasting and coming on and find
programs like yourself and.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Talking History Man.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You brought the hammer of the Gothweb. You blew it up.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
You've had you have great energy, you have a very
articulate way to coming out things and and you did
the show.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
You picked it up and you torched that out man.
You took it all the way to the to the
finish line. I have to do nothing. All I did
was intro and outro. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Thank you was probably one of the easiest conversations. How
to do I didn't I didn't have to pick it up.
I didn't have to maybe just ask you one or
two questions.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
But that's it. My freaking my input was irrelevant. You
freaking took you did great good.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I read the first time amazing my radio I started
my first radio program. I was out of Dallas in
twenty thirteen and I ran for Congress and I ran
against the last World War two veteran in Congress. Anyway,
we ended up getting a runoff, and then I became
his ally and his surrogate speaker, and I had him
on my show, and it's so funny.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
He had this big stack of notes.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
He was going to go through all this stuff, and
he got in there and we turned the mic so on,
and that guy was chilling that He's ninety years old
at the time.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
It's such a natural. He's so smart.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Anyway, we talked history for an he just I just
let him go and I looked at him at the
end of the show where the clock was running out.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I said, ralphie make it radio easy, and he just
thought that was great.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
And I'm glad that I'm finally getting close to where
Ralph was at ninety years old.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Shout ups to Ralph, Shout ups to Ralph. Yo, everybody,
make sure you check him out. Arter burn ardur Burn
Gold dot dot com dot cold Ardiburn dot Gold, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Make sure you check us out.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
He's also going to be in the description of the show.
Check us out at Parana radio dot com. Leadies and gentlemen,
drop a five star, evering up a podcast, and on Spotify,
because that allows other people to enjoy the show as
much as I enjoy making it.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Good Night, Thank you, Taboo, Talvo

Speaker 4 (49:06):
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