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August 17, 2025 44 mins
Jules from Grey Pilled hits Paranoi Radio with scripture, philosophy, and forbidden conspiracies. From underwater secrets to interdimensional shadows, he rips through the fabric of belief and reality. This is the Grey Pill—raw, unfiltered, and aimed straight at the lies they feed you.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Bro, you don't even freaking know. We touched the Bible,
alchemized stuff. We went great pilled, black, pilled, underwater, hollow Earth. Bro,
it's some simulations type stuff, man, Jules. Let him know
what they can find you, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Guys, Gray Pilled pod on Twitter, Great Piled Underscore podcast
on Instagram. I'm on YouTube, Rumble h Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
and Patreon. Really pushing the Patreon. So it was a
pleasure to come on and hang out with you, Trebls.
We'd love to do it again very soon.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Absolutely, guys, stay tuned for the rest of the show
because he rocks it and knocks it out of the
freaking park.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh ye, kiss, keep the simple, stupid, I promise you
this is not a political podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Set up the moot, Sit up the moo.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now it's rocking, ro Let's make the posits into the
bank of knowledge. Welcome back to parenta radio podcast, ladies
and gentlemen. I am Treble Scarcia, your humble host. Then
I want to thank the Lord for allowing me to
be here today, and I want to thank every single
one of you for allowing me to go into your space.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
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special guest. Before all of that, I want to remind
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Speaker 3 (02:22):
Let's jump in from a deepen on the point set
the freaking mood. Please got walk?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
We give a one walk home. Dude, I never had
this guy on the show. We played TikTok tok with
each other. We were like freaking the tag. We were
playing cat and mouse for a long.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Long freaking time for almost a year.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I think I haven't had this guy on Jewels from
the Great Pilled podcast What's So Big?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Dog Man? Thank you? Thank you for taking the time
out of your day to have me on. Uh yeah, man,
we we we have been playing a little bit of
cat and mouse with each other. Uh you know, we
have busy schedules and we both have kids, we both
have a job, and so yeah, man, and it's I'm

(03:01):
very fortunate to be able to have this time with you.
We have a lot of mutuals, you know, so we're
we're always kind of doing shows and and you know,
crossing paths, but we we've never officially, you know, done
our own show.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
So yeah, man, I'm happy that you're here. Privilege here, yes, sir,
thank you man. So it's a humbly imprivileged to be
to have you on the show. Bro, finally get to
have you and your knowledge and your time. So I
really I am thankful for your show. I'm thankful for
everything that you do. I'm thankful for your time. So
we're going to jump right into it. Where can people
find you before anything?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Guys, I'm over on Twitter at Gray Pilled Pod. I'm
on Instagram. Whenever I choose to be on Instagram, I
post over there. Sometimes I usually use it more for communication.
Great Pilled Underscore Podcast. I'm over on YouTube, Rumble, I upload.

(03:58):
You'll find most of my content on Rumble, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
all that good stuff. And I'm on Patreon. I have
a Patreon, Patreon, dot com, slash, Great Pill Podcast. A
lot of cool stuff going on over there. We're right
now watching twin Peaks, you know show that David Lynch
did from the nineties. A lot of occult symbolism in there,

(04:20):
a lot of esotery undertones, Eastern mysticism. You'll find throughout it,
like crazy synchronicities throughout the whole Twin Peaks universe. We're
on season two. We're watching that on Patreon. Also, esoteric
book reviews I do every Saturday morning on Patreon with
Subliminal Messager and those the watch parties in the book

(04:41):
reviews stay on Patreon. Those don't. Those do not get
released to the public. Also, I have a Locals you know,
you can go subscribe on Locals. I post all the
Patreon streams there as well. But yeah, we released the
eloheam Etymology. It's a show I do with Adrian West
where we dive into the fallen angels of antiquity and

(05:04):
kind of trace them throughout civilizations who they were worshiped
as like you know what God, quote unquote they were
revered as those drop. That show drops to the Patreon
for about a week before it gets released to the public.
You get a free sticker pack, you get linked to
the discord, a lot of cool perks for signing up.

(05:25):
For the Patreon got a few tears over there. But
besides lo heeam Etymology, it's one of many shows I
do under the whole gray Pilled moniker. I also have
sound science that I do with the Paranoid American shout
out Thomas, you got Thomas, Yeah, Man, Thomas's the man.
You can go to Paranoid American dot com slash discount
slash gray Pilled ten percent off by the way, I

(05:47):
go ahead and throw that in there, and uh yeah, man, Thomas,
he you know, I he was the first person who
interviewed me, you know, one of the first people. He
was one of the first people that he kind of
brought me into the scene and kind of, you know,
wouldn't be where I was today without Paranoid American. And
in a way, I'm kind of part of Paranoid American somewhat.

(06:09):
So uh yeah, man. I always push the ads and
and the brand. Thomas is the big homie. I also
produce a show every Tuesday night. It is a live
parapolitical call in show called Already Dead with Austin Picard
and Jose Gallison. That's every Tuesday, eight thirty Central on YouTube,

(06:32):
Rumble and Twitter. Yeah and in the last thirty minutes.
It's like a call in, and that's like the I'm
the least familiar with the parapolitical realm, geopolitics and the
whole lot. You know, I can get in on the conversation.
But where I tie in is when you get into
a lot of these cults that tie into the cult, right,

(06:53):
and then you know you can kind of figure things
out a little further from from there because that always
ties it to you know, these secret government operations and
m k Ultra and all all these other things that
we have going on behind the scenes, behind backstage, you
could say. But and then I also do a show

(07:15):
every other Sunday called Sunday Chaos. It's just a little, uh,
like a little new show at me and conspiracy extremists
do uh. He's a friend of mine, and yeah, man,
I mean that's all under Gray Piled. You know, Great
Pilled is just my main brand.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I have.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I do my interviews, my swap cast, my my deep dives.
I used to do a lot more live streams, just
like me engaging with the audience back in like last fall,
but I kind of quit doing that more towards the
winter life. You know, picks up and gets a little busier.
Kids get older, and you know, you find yourself not

(07:56):
having as much time, you know, like what you're about
to go through, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Know, man, I was just getting off talking to the
jewels about how my youngest broke her nose and I
was Oalvador and then my oldest broke her heart situation. Yeah,
so I'm getting calls left and right, and yet man,
I hear you, bro, Yeah, I have to be completely honest.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
You are one busy bee and.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's one of the dreams of mine to have the
time to actually poor poor my heart and more of.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
My time into the show.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So mad love, respect and kudos and shout out to Thomas.
You know, Paranoid American jumped on a couple of times,
and last time we spoke, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Released that episode. He said.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
He said that mentioned something about silent conspiracies. He mentioned
you and mention other people that he's working with, so
he has definitely networked himself up there. So mad love
to Paranoid American and I told him, you know what, bro,
your name is Paranoid American. I have to keep up
the love, I have to keep up the hard intense
work to paranoid paranoid American because when people like Google

(09:00):
paranoid and if I'm up there, Bro, I'm both boosting
your algorithm, you're boosting mind.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Bro. I gotta stay relevant because the names like I.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like, Oh right, right right, So we have to stay pushing,
pushing it and grinding.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yo, let's jump into it, bro. Everybody, by the way,
do not forget to like them.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Subscribe and all the links to his stuff is going
to be on the description of this show. Make sure
you check out Great Pill Podcast. You sent me something
about elements.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hold the crap up. Wait a minute, Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Elements been getting into platforms. Itly natural occultism, esoteric.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Teachings get into it, bro, What the heck are you
talking about?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, this all comes from my esoteric book review, like
I said Patreon, that I do with my buddy Subliminal Messenger,
the Subliminal Messenger show. You can find that on Rumble.
He's a real good guy. Met him and they and
the dangerous retard Realm Nephilum death Squad Realm of the Internet. Yeah,
shouts out the boys, because I am part of that

(09:58):
whole conglomerate of the dangerous retards and everything. My whole
my audience is usually most of nds's audience and so on.
But you know, so we do a show esoteriot book
review where I am a big fan of Manly P.
Hall in that I like his theories, his teachings, the

(10:21):
things that he puts out in these little what you
would call the treaties. It's like a smaller portion of
a much greater work, you know what I mean. And
so we started off with Initiates of the Flame, and
this gets into how you know the eternal soul symbolized

(10:43):
as the flame, and how you can find this kind
of this mystic aspect of fire in almost every mystery school, right,
but it all stems from this this old I guess
you call it a priest class of Melchizedek, which you

(11:05):
can find melchis Adec or Melchizedek mentioned in the Old Testament.
Once I think he like Bret he blesses Abraham, and
then he's gone. This guy was like a mystic priest. Right,
So we move on to reading, which we're kind of
reading all these books at once now because they all
kind of, I mean, they all have something in common
with each other. Man all this mysticism, these esoteric teachings,

(11:28):
everything that aligns with like the supernatural. It all intertwines
with each other. It's fascinating. But we started reading Melchizedek
in the Mystery of Fire, which you know, you dive
deeper into the meaning of that eternal fire that I
think is your connection with the Creator and the Holy Spirit.
You know, some people interpret it as their higher selves, right,

(11:50):
you have, your connection with Christ can't come from a
place of like carnal nature or sin, right, it has
to come from a place of h But I don't
know who's trying to open the door right now. I
think my kids are trying to get in here.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Children will be children, dude, you know what I deal
with Jim and maybe the dog. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
But you know, when I studied this esoteric stuff, it
brings my It brings me closer to Christ because I
think we talked about it a little bit before we
went live. There is a lot to what you could
say Christianity that that people don't really see at first glance, right,

(12:40):
But it kind of you have to kind of lift
the veil back a little bit to kind of to
get into the mysticism right, and a lot of Christians
are scared to question what they what they fear, or
like what they don't understand they fear right, and what
they fear they won't question because we're taught not to.

(13:05):
And so you know, just find like reading more and
more of these uh, smaller works. It was my dog,
what's up buddy?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
You know we we start reading about natural occultism and
how you know, all these aspects of the occult, which
just means hidden, right, and get that established because people
think the you know, occult, they start thinking about like
you know, black magic and witches and come you know

(13:44):
all which you know is a is a part of it. Definitely,
that stuff is real, regardless if people want to believe
it or not. That stuff is one hundred p and uh,
it happens in circles that you wouldn't expect it to happen.
And let's just say that I.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Have to I would have to amplify a little bit
just so we could we could pick up the tempo
here you're one thousand percent. I mean I think people
look at it's kind of like what happened with COVID.
You got you flip the word freedom with safety just
because of the way it made you feel. You were afraid,
and then you gave up your identity, You gave up
your children's health, your own health. And then the connection
with sun, with the connection with with with energy, with

(14:23):
connection with grounding yourself and mentally, emotionally and physically, and
all all different realms right get you get bombarded with
propaganda on all different levels.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
All your five cells is get destroyed.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
You get you get stuck in the consumption and in
production and also trying to provide, and you can't protect
anymore or listen to your favorite podcast because you live
in a paranoid state, in a you live in a in.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
A fear based world. So it's it's.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Anything that people will tell you, and it sounds preachy
and emotional, and it's typed with good with a beautleu
guy with a pretty little face like Governor Newsome. If
he's handsome, he has the hair, and he knows how
to deliver the message. You start believing it and you
don't question it. You don't take five seconds every day
to actually go to the search bar and start reading
things yourself. So it's you know, and all of this

(15:06):
happened on a daily basis and they get you, they
get you going very very very young.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I have this word in Spanish.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Is called so I come from a Protestant area of
Christianism when I was when I was younger, and so
as every live in LA there's a lot of there's
a hardcore presence of Protestant churches here in the LA
And in Spanish, the word for when you go to
your service, you go to on a Friday night, Saturday night,
or on a Sunday morning, et cetera, it's called which

(15:40):
means we're gonna go to the o cult. It's called
kulto bro the word.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
So once I spoke with one of the.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Like again my wife's family try to break us up
when they couldn't get through me, and uh, I told them,
why do you guys call it kulto? Like why do
you guys call it a cult? Why didn't you why
don't you guys.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Call it the service? Almost because in the Bibles like okay, so,
so basically.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Bottom line was they were trying to interpret the Bible,
twist it up and use the magic that duality, that
same knowledge that has been presented.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
By us perverse it, perverse it right, twist it so.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
That they could impact our lives and then control our habits.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
This is what occult is.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
This, This is the subversiveness that all occultists have done,
Crowley being the biggest, right, And I think all these
politicians today they use this kind of uh, you know,
this form of chaos magic to uh you know, well,
I mean to bring order out of it, obviously, but
to control us. Yeah, dude, I mean if you fear

(16:45):
something enough, if on a mass conscious scale, and this
goes into something else I've been talking about recently, talked
about it on NDS had Headless Giant on from a
cult rejects.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
We talked about it, by the way.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, man, yeahs and thought forms that that you create
and you manifest Eggrigre's servitors, all these things that are
used in chaos magic. You've heard of the homunculus, right,
You've heard of the the Jewish gol uh. It's talked
about in the ancient uh Kabbala mysticism and and so yeah, Man,

(17:22):
Covid basically was turned into an entity, I think rightly,
so many people feared it that they manifested this entity
out of it. You you you give it a name, right,
You've given an image, which is that you know what
what it was that molecule with like the you know
green yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know you have

(17:46):
this thought form in which fear, being one of the
strongest emotions, may be the strongest. You know, that creates
something man either in this world or an unseen one.
It definitely creates something. I mean, it goes right back
to spiritual warfare, bro.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
It's one spiritual warfare.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
We were born, I think, with only two different types
of fears, loud noises and heights.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
So everything else is condition. Everything else is condition.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, I don't know, dude, what about uh what's
it called something phobia? It's like the big things underwater
that you can't see, like o'ver in the middle of
the ocean and then something huge come. You're like, it's
terrifying to me. That to me right there, that's fear
in my opinion, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
It could be.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It completely overtakes love. I think love was one of
the hardest hardcore emotions that we have.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
We could move mountains, bro.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Love comes with faith, it comes with it, it gets
it's john packed with everything, bro. You know, and what
comes with love pain, So all of that's all conjunction, right, you.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Have love without suffering? Yeah, man, I don't think man.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Are you a Star Wars guy?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Man? Look, I was a huge, huge fan of the
original trilogy, and of course you know they made a trilogy,
obviously they that was intentional. The whole trinity, Uh that
you used in everything, man, in every mystery school. Uh,
there's there's always a trinity, And uh will you find

(19:18):
that with numbers when when you get into these esoteria
kind of traditions, you you you find those numbers everywhere.
But dude, I I loved the original Trinity or trilogy,
and then the three they dropped afterwards were like the
Clone Wars all that I also liked. Uh. You know,

(19:39):
I was still a kid when those were kind of yeah,
I'm pretty sure I was still I don't think I
was a teenager yet. But then they came out with
these new ones, and I'm not a huge fan of
of of those. I'm gonna be honest with you. Haven't
really kept up with them from there, but yes, I
am a fan of the older ones.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
So you know that there is no such thing as
a great jet, right, I'm saying because your name is
Great pilled, I wanted to get into that. So you know,
I lived my life bro at a very fast pace.
But it's either black or white, and I tend to
be if I'm a get on something, if and I
like it and I.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Feel one share about it, I die on that hill Man.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So it's black or white, right, And I understood after
that it's not about finding yourself, is about creating yourself.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
And life is like poker.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Everybody gets down a different hand, unfortunately, but everybody.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Has the right to pace a bet.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
So I like to pacete my baits and conspiracy theories
and they're not theories anymore.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
They're just conspiracies at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
So I'm looking at okay, so I'm completely I consider
myself a red pillar. Now you have these black pillars,
the white pillars, the blue pillars, right, but what is
the gray paill bro In between two rounds.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I found myself taking the gray pill There's probably during
COVID and it was discovering. Like just man, when you
go down these can like when you first get into
conspiracy theories and you start really understanding things and you start,
you know, you start to do your own research and

(21:12):
you start to connect your own dots and stuff like, dude,
is just uh, you know, we we do live in
a very chaotic world. But there there's always so there's
you know, there's that black pill, right that like nothing's
ever going to get better. We're controlled, you know, no
one's but like there is that white pill in there.

(21:35):
And I mean, I think a big part of that
is is a big part of that is christ rights
as well as having hope. I think, you know, people,
I'm not a big fan of folks who are just
like constantly black pill. I think it could harm somebody

(21:56):
who's who's already going through like a hard enough time.
But you don't don't want to bombard people with nothing
but white pills and have them completely oblivious to the
stuff that that black pills you, right, So you know,
the the gray pill was kind of a way of

(22:16):
coming at it, you know, from a different perspective and
seeing both the good and the bad. And I guess
you have that like dualistic aspect to it, right, And
also it just no one had used it yet and yeah,
yeah I will that and you know, well it's kind

(22:37):
of just how I felt at the time. I just
kind of felt gray pilled and so yeah, man, I
mean that I I changed my name to Gray Pilled
I think on Instagram like a year before I started
the podcast, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So it's it's a mixture of the I think and
correct me if I'm wrong. I think every every creator
does this to a sense, you study some type of
a cult so that you could utilize it for marketing.
I mean, like you just said nobody had grape pill, right,
nobody had your logo and the way you can market

(23:11):
things and that side angle that you can that you
have to communicate with people and then bring in your brand, right.
I think we all, even myself have the umbrella and
they're like, what the fuck the umbrella with the mic?
And I was like, well, because I feel in a
rainy season you pull out the umbrella. Throughout, when there's
a sunny season, you pull out the umbrella, so you

(23:32):
always protected and shaded by the truth. And I think
of it as that normally as apparatus, right, so even
study the Latin of it, so all of that has
something occult meaning so that they can pact you, impact
you in a certain way, and you have to make
it into a logo so it sticks in people's brains.
And it's all a part, I want to say, almost manipulation.
Depending on your intent and where your emotions are at,

(23:52):
where your heart is at right, you would use it
to your benefit or for the benefit of others. So
the knowledge of do du wilicism to wellness, if I'm
saying that correctly. I think it's being used for ages, bro,
introduced not only by the but you know, so it's
like the Bible. It could be twisted. It's a double
edged sword. And if you're using it in a way
where you could collect money and buy yourself a beamer

(24:15):
and you're happy with that, Bro, You know, the people
that are there are happy if you're going to go
through judgment and eventually we all will, right. But I
think it's also it could also be used to and
awaken people, enlighten people.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
That well, that that's a big part of what I uh,
you know, why I choose to dive into some of
these dark corners of the occult is it isn't for
so I can learn to be you know, some crazy
like uh chaos magician, you know, like uh it that
I control my own debt, like my own reality and

(24:50):
manifest you know, it's not that that can only be
done through Christ, through the Creator, through prayer. Right, it
is to expose that these things do exist, right, This,
this idea, these ideas that you study when you get
into the occult sciences, they are they're studied by many

(25:11):
people and and practiced as well. Right, I think people
should definitely be aware that this isn't just you know,
they tell us all this stuff exists in movies, right,
this revelation of the method that they kind of play
with us showing us what's happening without really showing us, Right.
But I mean, yeah, man, there's there's you know, definitely exposed.

(25:38):
Like I I think I've brought light to a lot
of subjects. I've been told by other podcasters or content
creators that I bring some some points to a lot
of theories and discussions that they haven't heard before. And
so yeah, man, there's there's some things that I've you know,
questions that I've dived into that have made me uncomfortable

(26:02):
that I've lost you know, that I've lost audience members over.
But it's just it. It's part of the show. You know,
we question absolutely everything.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
You have to question everything that is one thousand percent.
I let me ask you something.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Are you a historical guy or you like you like history?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I assume yeah, man, no, Now I don't know as
far as now with dating history. I'm kind of like, Okay,
what are we being told is correct? Like how how
long ago did some of this stuff really happen?

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Right? Like what he says that the Bible is six
thousand years old? So I like that. I like that
theory quite on the sea?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's that's kind of you know,
that's one thing that's that's one way to put it.
I kind of I don't know, when you look at
some of these other cultures and stuff, it kind of
seems like the world may be a little older. And
at the beginning of the Bible, the genesis, or some
would say the generations of Isis, you know, is Is

(27:03):
was a long period of time. Those seven days may
have been seven cycles, right, yeah, of.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Course technically they are cycles, right, right?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
How long did they take? You know?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
It also says that what one day for God is
like a thousand years for.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Us, or when you get into the when you get
into the Anonachi trebles, one year for them, it's thirty
six hundred years for us. It's called one shar and
you find that word shar and a lot of ancient
Samarian mythology, which I think a lot of words we

(27:46):
used today stem from that base pantheon of summer that
ain't you know the the that's why you know do
the first year of graypild And still a lot of
my research and podcasting conversations are kind of centered around
these stories of these fallen Eloheen you know that you

(28:09):
read about in the Book of Enoch, that you read
about that Sitchen writes about that Michael Heiser writes about.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Makes sense, makes sense because if if let's say that
these cedars were like right there were they came from
other planets and stuff or different realms. Yeah, I assume
that their cycles were different, so one day for on
Earth for them would be or the other way around.
One day for them would be their to six you
know years for us.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah. It talks about in these ancient texts that were
translated that when they came to Earth they started aging
more rapidly and so their their kids would come from Niberu, right,
which I've interpreted Niberu as maybe being another dimension, if
not a planet, then another dimension, right or another place, real, yes,

(28:57):
realm that when their children and come from Nibiru to
Earth sometimes their children or you know like like or no,
no no, when okay, so when like she have the
story of Inki and Leel, these two brothers right that
were like the patriarchs of these two sides of these

(29:18):
pant of this one pantheon, their father Anu when he
came down his children being them two and their sister Ninma.
They both have a sister wife who they both had
a respective kid with each in Lel having Ninurta with
Ninema or ninhr sag is also her name. This is

(29:39):
the original isis. Isis is an archetype and it was
attributed to many different deities and antiquity. And Inki had
ninga Zita or both with her. But on Anu came
down to earth. You know, this was the sky daddy

(29:59):
of that pantheon on right, Uh and Zoriastrianism. He is
a Heramazda.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
He is.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Uranus uh kalius or callous or something in Greek. I
don't know how to say it. He's an e in Egypt.
When he comes down to visit his children, they are
older than him, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Interesting, yeah, I so I ran this by Ali Marzuli
and he couldn't give me. He kept dodging it, and
I get it. You know, some people don't want to
speak about it, but I wanted to see. Let's see
if you if you could probably hack into this and
tell me what you think. But did a deep dive
on the Old Mix, and I found out that the

(30:45):
Old Mix were not worshiping or mimicking other gods. The
Old Mix were trying to use uh ancient liquid obsidian,
gold and mercury to tap into the organic algorithm of
the Earth. So technically what they did was they made stone,
memorized them. They were able to put themselves into the

(31:05):
organic pulsating energy. They were using alchemy. So my theory
is they tapped into the high mind. I want to
say the what you see an avatar the movie the
energetic frequency algorithm of the Earth. To avoid judgment, and
now think about it, think about it, and you see
this throughout history. You have the empires, you have emperor's kings.

(31:28):
Every single person that's been in power ever has been
obsessed with people echoing their names by erecting statues, arts,
songs in the heads, the oss.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You had the giant heads of the Olmecs, and you're like,
you know, is this like a literal representation of them, right,
or is it like symbolic being that they have a
giant head because they have a lot of knowledge.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, you know, like the helmet.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
So when I when I was reading this, I was like,
they used your or what's it called your biometric their
own biometrics, like spilling blood through ritual to tap into.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
The algorithm of the earth.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Who else did that to open another realm? Then in
Jesus do that too. He spilled his blood to give
us salvation, which was.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
In alchemical baptism into the earth right.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Boom b bro.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
My wife talks about it all the time. And that's
when when you talk about like mysticism and Christianity, like
nobody wants A lot of Christians don't want to even
hear about it. And I just like ask myself, like
why why wouldn't you want to know like this deeper meaning,
Like I feel like we're supposed to strive for that,
but maybe some people aren't meant for it. Like I

(32:37):
have a theory that maybe you reincarnate until you do
reach that point where you can connect, you know, one
hundred percent with the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Right checkpoints, save game each life.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah yeah, I mean kind of like you have this
consciousness that comes back to you and that goes into
like the lore of the two souls, which you find
throughout all forms of besta of Erica and occult traditions
as well as ancient tribes and Africa. Dude, like tons
of stuff. Credo Mutwa the Zulu shaman talks about that

(33:11):
he was a friend of David Ike. Super interesting guy.
He should look into him. But yeah, man, for what
you were saying about the omes, Yeah, bro, so listen
to this, I have I have something for you.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So I mentioned Ninga Zita, both Hermes mercury Uh. He
was known as Tahoudi in Africa. And this guy as
well as his father in ky Or new to Mud
which which meant the artful fashion er. Uh. They were scientists.
They were DNA scientists right. The olmechs were created as

(33:55):
helpers to build these ancient structures and so and both
ruled Egypt. He left Egypt because his brother Marduke or
Ra took took Rain had his little period there. There
there were wars going on called the Pyramid wars with
their cousins. You know, all these like these these uh,

(34:17):
these battles and in the sky, right that are talked
about in all these ancient cultures, and uh, he goes
to South America. Both does Now, alchemy comes from that
word kim alchemy Kim is ancient Egypt kim it So

(34:39):
the word chemistry, the word alchemy, this practice comes from
ancient Egypt, from both, from this guy who took these
old mechs and went to South America to build all
these structures into kickstart civilization supposedly, right, So these old mechs,
if they were doing these alchemical you know, transformations or whatever,

(35:03):
that they learned it from him. They the guy who
in these mythologies took them, you know, and used them
as a builder.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Race. They had, they had gene splicing, they had all time, they.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Had some kind of ancient DNA in them like that
by now, of course is probably bred out of us, right,
or maybe some of these elite blood lines still have it.
That's why they interbreed.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, now, you know, I like to We were thinking
about that a couple of hundred episodes ago. We were
thinking with my best friend when he was active still
on the show, we were talking about how.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Did we probably still have this?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
And this is where we have these factions of like
the entertainment industry, the people that are running the banking system,
and the government aspect of it, the military, the military
aspect of it. Everybody has their position, so everybody can
tap into that frequency into the memory of your own
DNA kind of like Assassin's creed and then they activated
with a frequent your tone or something.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
So I think at the.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
End of the day, we all probably have remnants and
memory starting yeah, memory, And this is why we're obsessed
with trying to hacker own DNA, because we're trying to
pull that information or activate other sleeper cells.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'm not talking.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
About you're not talking about Iranian sleeper sales either. This
is where like we're why we're so intrigued with the
ancient past, right is because like I do think we
have some sort of like DNA memory resonance from it, right,
If not, it's in the ether and maybe we're getting

(36:41):
these like random downloads from it every now and then.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Well even that right infatuated with symbols too.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Everything has a symbol and it connects back to ancient worlds.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
But when you talk about gold and alchemy and all that, Bro,
the Ananachi were known for mining gold. I mean, that's
the story they create. They created humans to mine gold.
I think that there were you know, they just took
a race that was all all that was already here
from the creator and they just manipulated the DNA maybe
so well, Bro, I mean, you know, you get into

(37:13):
like Adam, like where there are tribes of Adam? Right?
Was was Adam like a class of man? Because in
these ancient stories you have like a dap up, a Damu,
these atoms with these different names, one of them, you know,
the first Sumerian king and you don't even know, right.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
But what did what did Eve come from? Is red?
That's gene splicing, Bro.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Exactly, Dude. So this gets into these like ancient astronaut theories,
and I know a lot of people don't like it.
I mean I don't. I don't want one hundred percent
believe the whole ancient aliens thing, but I think there's
aspects of it that are definitely true that when you
put in with spirituality and all this other stuff you
start learning about out the occult and uh, you know,

(38:02):
all these synchronicities, Like, dude, there's there's something that truth.
There's truth that ties into it. Now, you know. I
think the deception is believing that they are our creators
as far as that goes, and that you know, that
we should worship them as gods. That's why they masqueraded

(38:23):
as God's right to deceive us. And there was no
U good intention in that right to accuse us.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, right, right, right.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
But dude, they would use this gold. They would mind gold.
They would somehow condense it into fine, monoatomic gold. They
would break it down to its finest uh you know
quality or its finest uh like basically white gold, right,

(38:56):
and they would shoot this into their atmosphere. They would
drink or miss gold drinks, like the same shit they're
doing in Hollywood now, Bro, you know the gold juice
or whatever that one crazy actress chick was talking about
shop front.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Bro, they they would use this gold in these rituals,
and I think humans adapted it. That's why we're so
obsessed with gold. That's why every ancient story it's like
going to find the lost treasure of the gold, you know,
when real. But you could look at it as symbolic
like the hero's journey being like, you know, the lost

(39:33):
treasure being this knowledge at someone's that's the epic of
gogamesh for you, Right, he's looking for immortality. He even
went and found He went to some subterranean realm and
found utnapishtim Noah, ancient ancient Noah, old as hell down
there just like write and scribe, like scribing down shit
and making like, you know, just some like ancient hermit.

(39:58):
But apparently you know now or did he go to
another realm and meet him? Right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I kind of reminds me of.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'm a big hollow earther so hollow.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I'm a simulation guy.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
But I feel this.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I feel you. I feel you.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I feel you, dude. I think I think there's truth.
I think the truth lies in the middle somewhere, even
with like flat and hollow earth, I think there is
some truth that lies right there in the middle.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
It reminds me of what he just said about the
whole that one phase from Jurassic Park.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
He goes, God.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Makes man, Man makes dinosaur, dinosaur eats man, women inherit
the earth and like remember that, because look what happened.
You know, God makes us, right, and then we make
a I. God makes us in their image and we
make in our image and and damn bro just trying
to hack through that simulation, trying to just be in

(40:53):
the next superposition.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Rights were these external forces, these these supernatural powers? Are
they using us to create this AI so they can
manifest through it?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
That's what I was Gonn.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's how are we somehow like so it's a consent thing.
I mean this goes back to like letting a vampire
in your house, right, Like are we do like giving
them consent to manifest too? You know what I mean,
use your creativity powers AI, and like I mean, we're

(41:30):
we're complicit in it, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Oh think about it right biblically right, someone will rise
that will join all that could put all the religions
into one.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
You'll have all the nations into one. Right? What's smart
enough to do that for us? Kay?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah? Ship ancient AI as well? You got to look
at that. Also. Nick from Occult Rejects told me that
we are like sentient biological AI basically like no solar
powered biological AI wear my intro and I go, wait what?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
And yeah, Nick is wild wild dude. I love Nick
shut out.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Nick. Uh see, man, I told you do. We have
We have so many of the same people that we like,
you know, podcasts with this. This is a shame that
we had to wait so long. But uh, dude, Yeah, no,
I got to get you on my show too. Man.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I'll rock it, bro, I'll rock it.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I have a free hour or you know, ninety minutes
if you want to come on on a Friday night sometime.
We could do a Friday night gray pill, you know,
go live for an hour, bring drag Chef in there. Maybe.
Hell yeah, But I have to get you on, dude,
because these are some good conversations.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Absolutely, bro. Hey, I don't want to take more of
your time, and I want to thank you so much
from the bottom of my heart. Where can people find
you both?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Oh? Man? Like I said, Great Pulled pot on Twitter,
Great Pulled Underscore podcast on Instagram, uh, YouTube, Rumble, Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, and uh Patreon, Patreon and locals. You can
go support the show. There got a lot of cool
stuff popping off. Yeah, man, I could sit here all

(43:18):
day and talk to you, dude. Mike. We we we
definitely have to plan.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Some more of these show. I'm I'm freaking down.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Man, Thank thank you again for having me on. Brother.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
It's a pleasure, man. I like that. I like the discussion.
It was everywhere.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
But those are the Those are bad because it gets
the people going what people going, bro Yo shaking bake.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I need you, guys to make sure you check out
Jewels from the Great Pilled Podcast. He's everywhere. He's collaborated
with a lot of big names. Make sure you check
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Do not forget to drop a five serve view on
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