October 15, 2025 • 45 mins
Charlie and Jeff from the Shadowbanned Podcast storm into Paranoi Radio with fire in their eyes, diving headfirst into the Holographic Earth theory, superposition, light particles, and the twisted fabric of time travel. Reality bends, logic snaps, and minds get fried in this one.
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Beyond this realm quantum mechanics, we went lightly on simulation theory,
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please give them one. Welcome to Charlie Kremer and Jeff
from Shadow Band Podcast. What's up guys?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Hello, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That was a banger of an intro.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Dude, Yeah, intro dynamite, Bro, I need like more sound
like you're due? Yo. I heard you guys have a
banger of a podcast and the name shadow Band fits
(03:23):
the times that we are in right now. Only shows
Bro that every single person that tries to speak either
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and that is the culture of the world today. But
before we jump in into the stupid ship bro and
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(03:43):
where they can find you.
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YouTube hasn't treated us very nicely. I don't know. I mean,
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But yeah, yeah, so if you want to get the
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that stuff.
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Yeah. Twitch, We go live on twitch YouTube x every week,
usually Wednesdays. You know, we do this for fun, so
we're not super strict on ourselves with the scheduling, but
usually on like Wednesday nights you catch us on twitch YEP.
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So beautiful. It's a beautiful moment to be alive, to
be a podcaster. And I want to say that we
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(04:40):
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like share subscribe. That's the last time I'm gonna say
like shamp subscribe, I promise yo. Today, before we even
started conversating, Bro, I said something about if you guys
knew anything about superposition. I started doing some deep dives.
But it's way too much freaking four syllable words for
my little feeble brain to understand. Bro, break it down
(05:02):
for me. What is super position? And then I'm gonna
amplify that message. I'm gonna start throwing the little nitpicks here.
Just start with that. What do you think about that?
What do you think that is good?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Jeff?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean, that's a that's a heavy topic.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'm you know, I'm I'm also a dumb dumb so
I you know, I don't claim to be an expert
in this type of stuff at all, but from from
what I understand, it's basically particle. I guess the way
it's explained scientifically is like particles can be in two
places at the same time. Right, Is am I correct
on this word? Is this the dumb dumb version of it?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The dumb, dumb version of it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, but I you know, I guess it ties in
with like quantum entanglement, superposition, all these types of things.
The best thing I ever heard about this, Honestly, I
don't remember which freemason on YouTube. I heard this from Tyson,
one of these guys. They basically said, there is no
there is no now, right, because it's all relative. Right,
(06:00):
So they talk about things like this might be slightly
off from superposition. But the idea comes in here. You
ever heard of the Andromeda paradox?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, blow me up, bro, all right?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So basically the idea is, let's say all three of
us are sitting in a room together, okay, and we're
all looking at the Andromeda galaxy. Now, we're told, or
have been told, that the light is traveling from Andromeda, right,
and it's reaching us. And it's taking, however, a million
billion light years for the light to get here. So
when we're looking at it, we're seeing you know, Andromeda
a billion years in the past, right, we're tracking. Yeah,
(06:35):
So the Andromeda paradox is is if one of us
is in motion. Okay, So let's say Angel, you're riding
your bike in the same spot as us. You're just
riding your bike passed, okay, and you also look up
at Andromeda. The light that you're getting from Andromeda is
days apart from the light that we're getting from Andromeda. Now,
we're catching the light at the same time here relatively,
(06:58):
but because you're in motion, and the distance from here
to Andromeda makes that light reach your eyes days later
in the in the terms of what you're looking at
in the sky. And the same thing, if Kreamer was
driving faster by in a car, right, he's going to
see it weeks later than what I'm seeing. Right, So
(07:19):
the idea of time and of now is a complete illusion.
There is no now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Also, go ahead, I was gonna say. It's also like
now is relative, it's to how you're perceiving it, right,
So on a different particles will experience superposition in different ways, right.
And so if something moves over here, but it's quantumly
entangled over there, or if you're observing it, you get
that like observer's bias, things happen differently. If like a
(07:48):
light photon, as you approach the speed of light, your
perception of time infinitely slows down. So as you're getting
approaching the speed of light, everything slows down. But as
you get to the speed of light time there is
no time. So it's been said that like a photon
(08:09):
at the Big Bang, whenever it gets absorbed, it could
be a trillion years later, it could be whatever it is.
No time has passed for that photon. If it could
perceive time, it would have just not It didn't They
didn't even know it existed.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It so it didn't happen. It falls on itself. It
didn't happen. The Big Bang didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
As far as the light from it is concerned. No light. Actually,
if a photon could be conscious of itself, it wouldn't
even know it existed because no time would have passed between.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Because then customer example absorption, if if the lights Okay,
So the experiment, the two slake experiment. The first one
the first one because there's two now. The second one
was a lot more complex. That's the first one was
when they're being observed, they behave different right, which means
no would be to a person that could break this
(09:02):
down and prove that everything and everyone is happening now,
not then, not in the past. Now, so everything's happening
at the same time altogether this moment. Okay, last trying
to thought because I was trying to be smart. But
if it goes backwards, Bro, you're telling me that no
(09:22):
one's observing the Big Bang ever happening. So how are
the super position It never happened. We are a simulation.
You just proved it to me. This is proof here
Apparent Radio podcast. We're gonna get shadow band for this,
no pun intended?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Oh yeah, yeah for sure, Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Well it gets even wilder if you really think about
this because, like you know, Creamer put this in the
context of photon, right, a light particle. Okay, if you
get into quantum physics at all, like you, you understand
that that light particle, that photon is information. It's all
it is. It's just information. It's data, right, So is
(10:02):
that data just not exist?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's it's just it's a weird My brain is too
small for this.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But yo, Paulina Luna, that's your name, the Florida senator
congress woman not trying to shift into politics, but she
said in Joe Rogan something about angels. She didn't say falling,
she didn't say any type. She just said angels.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
A k a.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Aliens ak, whatever the hell you want to call them,
or exist in a place of data. You could call
data your imagination and input of numbers on the screen,
digital electricity, magnetic pulses, you could call it whatever you want.
But data is data exists in a realm that you
could tap into. Follow the angel.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Okay, the word angel is messenger.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Frequency.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, I have this, I have this little theory
and this is going to start evolving here. Now I'm
not really I'm not really Christian, but I like injecting
a little Jesus and everything I do. And I read
the Bible sometimes looking for conspiracy theories, and I walk
out holding Jesus's hand and I'm like, oh, dude, you
just showed me something. I'm like, you have you? So
say in the enemy the last airbander, I want to
(11:13):
call him the dragon. His domain keyword domain is the air,
the kingdom of the air, where airwaves travel, where energy
is for free, electricity travels better than in air. Actually,
even the Bible says that that's his domain. We're influence
(11:33):
where other people get influenced from. So you're like, okay,
what do we worship nowadays, what's also data? What also
lives in a domain? Keyword domain websites? Right, you have
to bio domain to create a website. And where's that?
In ether? It's in the air. They call it the
cloud in the atmosphere. So the way we're worried, what
the hell I was saying here, we're saying say in
(11:55):
rules the airwaves, the air, the domain, the electric magnetic
field where you and I are tapping into. Yet we're
not only tapping into it, We're worshiping it. We're feeding it.
We're feeding our kids into it. It's you see what
I'm saying, right, We're being influenced by influencers. Oh no,
so might I'm not saying hopefully, I'm not over the
fucking place. But it seems like we are in the
(12:18):
end of times and we are worshiping the devil and
this is his realm because we've tapped into it. Electricity,
the Internet.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean this is something I kind of talk
about a lot too. You know, have you ever heard
of Lucifer's technology? You heard that?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So the idea, yeah, the idea, the idea here, and
I might funck this up a little bit, so can
I curse on your show.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Sorry, So I've been doing all since we started. Man,
I'm trying to keep it after sixty seconds for the
for the YouTube.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, it is so basically Lucifer's technology. I just give
you the short version of it. Basically, the idea is
that the demons, the entities whatever they are, the arcons,
whatever you want to call these things, right, right, they
have been influencing or possessing or whatever people through history
to invent these technologies. Okay, it's almost I'm sure you've
(13:13):
probably heard this in passing, right, like that the devices
are portals, right, like these are portals to there's.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
My big.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
So the idea of Lucifer's technology is that these entities,
these arcons, these demons have been possessing or pushing or
nudging people through history to invent the transistor, right, the microchip, right,
all these pieces of technology technology to create and pull
all of this to itself, right, so that you know, we're,
(13:44):
like you said, we're worshiping this this deity or this
entity that we don't even realize that we're worshiping, right.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And we're feeding all our data.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, and the interdimensional psychic vampires. I mean we all
know this, right, We all know that the social media
is fucking us up. The blue light from the screens
is jacking our hole. It makes us say, it makes
SKay the whole thing, right, So everything, so like that's
just you know, that's all pieces of this, this Lucifer's
technology idea.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So you know, I original, This is an original theory.
The subscribers on the show, they're going to be like, Angel,
you are nuts for saying that again. I'm saying that again, guys.
I have this original theory where I did some a
deep dive and I found nudges and I connected all
the dots and I did presentations and thank God for
all the other people that had me on their show
where I was able to give this presentation and I
(14:35):
was okay. So the ole mix. They left their memory
on stone, and they were doing sacrifices. We not only
liquid golden mercury, but liquid crystal glass, and they were
infusing themselves and leaving their memory grafted in the hiroglyph
and carved inside the stone because they were trying to
avoid judgment by tapping into the Earth's algorithm using blood sacrifice.
(14:58):
You know, like, oh, they were trying to open a
portal so that they could avoid judgment and then become
part of the organic algorithm of the earth, the pulsating
life of the earth, the electric magnetic field. They will
try to be one with the elements. I'm like, oh crap,
that's funny. There's a lot more detail into that's a
spider web, and I wish I could break it down
for you guys, but it's way too long just giving
you the nudges on it. And I'm thinking, who else
also did a blood a blood ritual so they can
(15:21):
take us to another realm? Call it salvation Jesus. Oh snap,
it's a direct replica. Every single thing piece that duality
all is knowledge and wisdom and magic rituals and everything
that we are connecting with, every single thing, even hand
gestures to a certain degree, are rituals. So I were like, okay,
so everything that we're practicing is magic. There's one of
(15:42):
the rules that biblically in a biblical lens that Jesus said,
do not do over ten times, which was practicing magic.
All right. So if we're ingesting and we're forced to
use these ousids screens, if we're forced to use all
this Luciferian technology. How can we avoid it? The only
thing I can think of is our intent, our and
(16:02):
our a how do you say this, our own energetic
pulsing and intent, our own algorithm. I want to say,
you are the algorithm. You know what I'm saying. Super precision,
We are super precitioned. We are everything in one.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you're probably right. The only other
option I could think of is you go off the grid,
and I'm talking fully off the grid. You go live
in the wood somewhere like a like a cave in
which sounds dope, but that's a really hard life. Like,
let's be real, you know, I don't think any of
us want to get out there, and you know, do
that to the fullest extent, but no, it is pretty
crazy to think, man, And like you were kind of
(16:37):
just hinting at, you know, the the ancients they knew
something about this. This is why they built all their
pyramids on these lay lines, and there's all the geomancy involved,
and you know they were they were mimicking what they
were seeing in the stars with where they were placing
these things, you know, so they were tapping into what
I call geomancy. Right, the magic of the earth right
like that, yep, And then you know there's a there's
(16:59):
a lot to it, man, to be honest with you, like,
that's a whole deep thing. Like you said, we could
talk for days and days and days about that. The
holographic universe principle, right, which is another.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
What is that principle? Break that down for me, bro.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So that's a deep one. But basically the idea, like
I was saying earlier, that light is information, right, So
if you believe in a holographic universe, which I personally
subscribe to, right, I don't necessarily think we live in
a simulation, and I think space is faking gay, So
I always kind of lean into the holographic universe, which
(17:33):
basically states that there must be a projection of the
information in our reality. And the hologram comes from two
things light and sound. Light and vibrations. And I've talked
to Kreamer about this a lot too. You know, when
you look at various religious texts, it seems that the
creation stories from all these different whatever, they always have
(17:57):
a sound element involved, right, Like God spoke the universe, right.
The Nuddhists believe that the sound of the universe is
the om right, so that there's this weird thing. I
don't really know the full science behind how holograms work.
I understand that it's light and vibration creating a holographic image,
and I think that's what our universe is. And then
(18:19):
the real question just comes to like what is the
projector what is projecting the light that you know the
gods or god has spoken into physical reality.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I'm a I'm gonna add on to that. I think
you're right, this is correct me. For one, guys, around
five to six years ago, they invented forgot his name,
hashtag look it up gt as that shit. Guys, there
was a scientist that broke through this technological milestone where
they were able to make blind people see using this
(18:51):
technology that allows them to read frequencies and then transport
those frequencies into your brain through the chip, and then
that chip makes it into who renders it into color,
so you can start seeing the shape of things even
though you're blind physical blind blind, but through your brain
you're seeing the frequency levels of different things of how
they're resonating, and then the color of the color spectrum
(19:12):
will tell you exactly what it is. Because colors are
frequencies the holographic universe theory, whah.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
And there's like a biblical side to that as well,
you know, like there's the spiritual and that is kind
of always portrayed as what is projecting, So things that
happen in actuality and the spiritual realm are then like
projected in some way in a lesser extent on earth.
And that's not such biblical, but that's in several other
(19:44):
religious things, as Jeff was talking about. So there is
something there. Definitely is something there, you know, regardless of
how you look at it. I think it's becoming more
in the zeitgeist too nowadays, where it's like more people
are getting on board with like, yeah, I mean, like
obviously this is we're not just matter in motion. There's
(20:07):
something else happening.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
The crazier part about that is is what I call
the lizard people. Right, We're all familiar with the lizard people,
the parasites that run the world, this elite deep state
ruling class. A lot of them are in this Saturn
death cult, the Saturnalia death cult.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
They worship Saturn, and it's not that the planet Saturn
that they're worshiping. They're worshiping the entity Yaw the Bayoth,
which we know of as Saturn or Satan, and in
their belief, in their cult, their religion, the idea is
that this this entity Yaw the Bayoth, the Demiurge, is,
as far as its concern is God of this universe. Okay,
(20:51):
he's not aware of you know, the God above him, right,
the real God, the real Creator, but he thinks that
he's the God of the universe, and through this holographic
universe has projected physical reality out and all of these
lizard people worship that idea. This is why the black
(21:14):
cube is the symbol of Saturn. Have you ever gotten
into the black cube stuff before?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Angel?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Very likely?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, so the black cube. If you look at NASA imagery,
which is all fake by the way, but but they
put their truths out in plain sight. Right, So if
you go on NASA's website and you look at pictures
of Saturn, I'm sure we've all seen it. There's a
perfect hexagon on the north pole of Saturn. Right, the storm,
(21:40):
this giant storm that's making this perfect hexagon on the
north pole of Saturn. Well, a hexagon is a two
dimensional representation of a three dimensional shape, which is a cube. Okay,
every one of the Abrahamic religions has that cube symbolism
in their iconograph, right, so you know, uh in Islam
(22:03):
they have the uh in Mecca, they have that big
black cube.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Then everybody stands in concentric circles around.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right, the rings of power ritual.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yet right in Judaism, they they the rabbis wear that
little black cube on their forehead.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
You can look at the Star of David. Inside the
middle of the Star of David is this hexagon right
which against the cube. And then if you count all
the sides of this of the points, you know you
have six sixty six and all these types of things.
The cross in Christianity, if you fold a cross up
and makes a cube, there's a lot of like weird symbology.
Now this is not me shooting on anybody's religion, right,
(22:41):
but again this these cultists believe that their God is
the creator of this universe, and they they they use
that iconography and those archetypes to kind of like manipulate
the truths behind some of these stories, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And hack car DNA because these symbols bro have a
massive neurological impact that throws you back way when your
ancestors were enslaved by them. You have all the Egyptian, Greek,
and other freaking what else, Chinese and all these other
(23:21):
type of symbols and twisted emblems that they have placed
on the dollar bell for example, on just basic level
stuff right that you think is just there because it
makes it look cool. But if you look into it, bro,
and I'm talking about ages centuries into it, you start
noticing that these were the symbols that your people were
enslaved with. Our ancestors. It doesn't matter what color, or
(23:43):
what what what creed you come from, many of these
assassin's screed gives you a perfect rendition of that truth.
This story where they try to hack your DNA so
that they could take you back into your ancestors. Then
the pull all this information out of you, which is
also why we have been not us for example, but
many of our rulers are obsessed, addicted to the idea
(24:07):
of living forever. They would erect statues, they would make
songs and and put portraits about them so that they
could be remembered forever in your mental faculties. As only
a memory with the specific tone, color, and frequency that
when you speak it or about them, or even think,
then they continue to live on in that ether, in
(24:29):
that air, in that domain.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Nuts Broach, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Question is this what do we do? We're forced you
and I right now, we're using this. What do we
do to fight back? We have the information, we have
the intent that will power. What do we do?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Bro You know, I've been saying this lately, man, and
I might take some flak for this, but I'm not
necessarily convinced that number one and there's anything that you
can do, right, But I'm also not convinced that it's
necessarily a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
This might be the natural progression of the universe. Right,
this type of thing. So you know, you have these psychopaths,
right they talk about like this great reset that they're
working on, right, this the fourth turning, right, all these
all these terms. You know, they they've done it before,
they're gonna do it again. These people create the prophecies
(25:28):
and then they push the all the things into place
over time to make their own prophecies come true. Right,
So I'm not necessarily convinced that it's all a bad thing.
Right Now, there's syops on top of syops because these
lizard people, these interdimensional psychic vampires, right like, they want
to harness and harvest your energy, your negative energies thinking
(25:50):
about these types of things. But it could just be
that this is just the way that the universe works, right,
So Creamer said this before you know, they tell us,
you know, we have this order out of chaos thing
that they always talk about. Right to me, that's a syop.
Creamer laid this out really well. One time he was
(26:10):
talking about give him the example we were talking about
with the Home Depot exploding.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Explosion, Like, yeah, I got you, I got you. Yeah,
there's a lot of sy ops out there where like
they just tell you things, but then you just put
it into a different context and all of a sudden
you go, oh, hold on, that makes no sense. I
was talking to an engineer guy, and I forget correct me.
If I'm using I might have had I might have
multiple Home Deepot analogies. I was talking to this engineer
(26:39):
guy one time about the creation of the universe. He was,
you know, we were talking about my belief systems and stuff,
and I'm like, yeah, I believe that the universe was created.
You know whether it's billions of years old, trillions years
old or not. I don't really know. I believe God
is perfectly capable of building an old universe. Right, he
makes a tree, it's got rings when he makes it,
cut it down. That's however many years old it is.
(27:00):
That's not a stretch for me. And he was like,
I was like, here, let me, let me, let me
try to distill what you believe. Everything just was. There
was like a big soup of thing and it exploded.
Let's imagine that you went into a house and you're like, WHOA,
This house is beautiful. It's ornate, it's orderly, it's got
(27:21):
systems in place. It's allto regulates its temperature. The landscaping
is perfect. It's got an ecosystem outside. It's got flowers
for this, a garden. This pollinates, this pollinates, that germinates this.
Everything is cohesive. It also has got phone shway things
look nice. It's got energy, and it's got an artist's
touched to it. And you you would want to know
(27:44):
who built that house. And if I sat there and
said a home depot got struck by lightning and exploded,
it had all the pieces that you needed into it
and it exploded and it turned into this beautiful house.
You'd go retarded. I go, yeah, that's the dumbest explanation
for what your eyeballs see. But your eyeball see order,
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and scientifically you cannot get order out of chaos. It
is impossible. The likelihood is just so exponential, no real
intellectual whatever you even consider it. But your you can
look at something and see that it is orderly, see that,
(28:28):
you know, you can uh, those infinite sequences what are
those called? Those like fracta Yeah, where you can just
keeping on it and it just keeps going into It's
like that doesn't randomly happen, but you see it and
they will tell you nope, that's not it. And then
they do that with everything. So you see clearly a
(28:50):
conspiracy somewhere. You see pyramids with superstructures underneath, and they go,
there's no breakaway civilizations. What are you talking about? You
see drones getting hit with hell fire missles and they go,
Aliens get out of down.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So basically the idea is order out of chaos is
the sie op. It's chaos out of order. So the
universe might just be moving towards chaos. Naturally, and to
answer your question, there's probably nothing that we can do
to fight back because it's just the natural order of
things in the universe, right, So trying to resist it
and fight back is causing negative energy that there's these
(29:26):
psychopaths are feeding off of.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Even Biblically, God says salvation is up to you.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, if they want to take over, let them take over.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You know, it's not demoralizing, guys. It actually gives you
a lot of power, more than you think people will
be your podcasting that I'm giving you the guys say,
I'm allowing you, guys, to tap into the information and
then it's your It's up to you to retain it.
I always say this at the end of a lot
of different shows, especially when I'm an on somebody else's
(30:01):
show and I'm like, the final words would be from
my end would be like, Yo, you can't do anything.
For example, I'm a father. It's just up to me
for my kids to be raised properly and for my
salvation to be It's up to me to wake up
in the morning. It's up to me to make sure
that my house is clean, up, to me to make
sure that my wife is okay, et cetera. I could
(30:23):
only change it or my two feet lay. I only
have control where my two feet lay, and I only
have control over one in mind, which is mind?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
That is it.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I start changing my habits, my thought patterns, and I'm
telling you this. I'm a freaking tweaker. Tweakers fucking telling
you this. When you start changing your thought patterns, your habits,
when you stop ingesting all these freaking movies and stop
ingesting stuff that they're telling you in the freaking media,
it doesn't matter who you fucking voted for. When you
stop ingesting, they're trash. You start behaving less like one,
(30:53):
and everything changes. This my domain, my household, my roof,
my don't it's the only place where I could make
radical changes. And then it would resonate like a freaking
It'll resonate like pond, like a pond like when you drop,
you know, like a little stone on the top and
then the ripples. That's the only way that you can resonate,
(31:13):
and other people start getting influenced by that.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, and resonates a good word for that, because as
like if you think like you hit a guitar string
when it's like perfectly in tune, you get that tuning
fork next to it, and now you have like some
So that's always like, at least for me, what's the
like what the Bible and it's it's teachings and stuff.
That's the tuning for you. Debang boom, and that's the
(31:37):
note you're trying to get to. And when you get there,
when you're in tune, you get that maximum frequency, you
get that resonance, and then everything else starts to get
in tune as well. Now you can tune the next thing,
the next thing, the next thing, and then when other
people are tuning around you. I t how you get movements,
and that's really the only thing you can do. You
(31:57):
can get right, and you can try to get other
people to help them get their life in order, and
that's how you get a movement. But everybody's in chaos
right now. Everybody's lives are out of order, and no
one really knows what's going on. It's a really bad
time for some of these like really radical things to
be happening in American society at the moment, because we're
very disjointed, we have a very muddy identity. We're all
(32:20):
over the place. The right is all over the place.
The left is all over the place. We both still
believe that there is a left in a right It's.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Like, yeah, but you know, and it's it's just to me,
it's all a big siop, right because when they they
scare us with this idea like, hey, after the fourth Turning,
there's going to be this technocratic you know, Orwellian government.
It's going to be AI controlled surveillance state. You know,
blah blah blah blah blah, all the things that we all.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Have heard about.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
To me, that's just a sy op to keep us
distracted from what you guys were talking about. Right, Like,
if you can separate yourself from those things, you know,
you can affect real change, right, Like, I think I
don't know about Creamer. Cream has always been a good guy,
but like you and Angel, right Like, there was a
time in my past where I was a dirtbag bro.
Right Like, but you know, over the years, I've adjusted
(33:06):
my my frequencies, if you will, Right, let's get woo
about it. And you know, and I do notice that
a lot of things pan out much better in this
state than they did in the state prior. Even though
it might have been fun and all, uh, you know
it was. It was wrecking, it was causing chaos in
my life. Right, So now I have a much more
(33:27):
like organized and structured way of living and all these
types of things, and it's definitely much better. So I
think that the syop really is order out of chaos.
They want us to think that they're that they're causing
chaos so that they can bring their order after this
fourth turning, when in reality it's the opposite.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah, Like think about like cimatics and stuff like you
hear like those sine waves and they put like the
sand or whatever, and it makes a pattern. A lot
of those there's no pattern. The wave is just too crazy,
it's disjointed, it's it's it's can't since there's other waves
that are canceling it. But when you get an actual
frequency that has order to it, you get that note
(34:07):
and everything aligns into a pattern. One that happens in
your life. You move through life with that frequency, that tune,
you're tuned. Then things start to order themselves in front
of you throughout your life. Groups of individuals can do that,
and we see that as them.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
They do that.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
The people behind the shadows, they're hyper ordered. They come
from families, rothschilds and whatever is. They have families, and
everything is orderly, everything is hyper ordered, and they move
with that tune and everything just bends to what they
want because they got a tune. And as we see,
the universe works. When you've got that frequency, things align
(34:48):
themselves in front of you. So they are locked in
with a tune. They got the megaphone and the big speakers,
and they're blasting their tune on us, and so they
make us muddy tune, no tune. Everybody's just all over
the place, no order. They get to put whatever they
want on us.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You know, it's funny. Stockholm syndrome. We have Stockholm syndrome,
and we have and then we pass it on to
our children. We love being in slips. We love being
and having these behaving in low frequency patterns. Bro we
love it. We love it so much we make it
part of our own fucking body. We love it so
much that we don't only make it part of our
own body, but then we make our kids have a
(35:28):
second part of the body. We can't live without it.
It is nuts. I dislike using the word hey. I
dislike the fact that we're so in love with it. Bro.
I'm not saying guys to not tune into the podcast.
I'm saying, even this podcast, tune in at your own
(35:48):
discretion and try to tune into something more spiritual, something
that's gonna bring you some light, you know what, something
that's gonna bring you peace and freedom. And I'm talking
to you about like you have to just I for myself,
I like now the freedom I have is saying I
have the liberty to freaking go to work, come back,
(36:09):
and that depend on anything or anyone a pipe, a
bag of freaking meth or shit. You know what I'm saying.
I have that freedom. I feel real free now. I
can speak to my kids and not feel freaking paranoid
radio and shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
am completely at peace and free. So that's the level
of success. I would appreciate everybody to reach and let
me on the way out, Guys. I wanted to pivot
(36:30):
this conversation too, to give you a highlight basically, to
make sure that people know what you guys are about.
What got you Shadow band the first time?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Jeff, you got a shadow You're welcome, bro. No, honestly, man,
it's a long story. But the short story of it
is we started this podcast. At first, I was just
a guest on Creamer's podcast and we did an episode
and it was like an hour and a half two
hours long, where I kind of just ranted on about
the sound death Cold, you know, and Epstein and all
(37:03):
this type of stuff, right, and I was just kind
of trying to wake up Creamer and his wife. That
was pretty much it. And then it was a banger.
So we were like, let's just turn this into its
own show. Well, we got to about episode five or
six and we started really getting deep into like you know,
Epstein stuff, human trafficking stuff, baby factories, like all this
(37:24):
type of shit. And that was when the strike started coming.
I mean, do we got We got striked on YouTube.
We did a Jeffrey Epstein episode and we got striked,
and the strike literally said cyber bullying. We got hit
for cyberbullying Epstein. Think about that, Okay, crazy.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And they bullying.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
But then like on TikTok oh, yeah, medical misinformation because
we started this like in the height of COVID, right,
so yeah, man, yeah, we were we were getting hit
with you know, oh you said this about the back
scene Oh you said viruses are fake. Oh, we'll nuke
you off a discord. Oh you said you know the
vaccines are causing injuries, will nuke you off of TikTok.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
You know, it was just one thing after the next.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
It was almost like every other episode we did, a
platform was getting nuked or striked. So, you know, at first,
we were kind of like trying to be careful because
we were trying to build a show, right, so we
didn't want to like have everything nuked. So we started
to I wouldn't say self censor, but we were like
actively like thinking about okay, like how do I say
(38:31):
this thing without saying this thing? I think that's gone
out the window.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We've just yeah, we just started streaming on Twitch and
stuff and then streaming out to x and YouTube and
all that stuff, and we're just like, you know what,
I'm not trying to turn this into the next Rogan
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
It's just it's what we have.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
You know, we are freethinkers. I'm not you know, so
dogmatic about my you know, Christian beliefs that I can't
even have a conversation outside of that tangential to that.
And Jeff also is not so close minded about you know,
his We're just we just think and we go wherever
the thoughts take us. And if that continues to get
(39:12):
us banned in places, I don't know why freaking some
of these platforms single us out over some larger podcasts
that say even crazier thing like Nick went this cliffs
are all over Instagram. Why am I getting banned? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yes, And you know it's funny because we named the
show Shadow Band Podcast before we ever got banned on anything.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
It was almost like I fling.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I was in that flow state thinking about this, you know,
I was on that frequency, and I was in that
flow state, and the name just came to me, and
it was almost like a prediction in a way. Right,
it was like I just knew that this was going
to happen. Right, I've been in conspiracy theorist my whole life,
and I knew that talking about some of this stuff
was a big no no right, questioning nine to eleven narratives,
questioning you know, the safety of millimeter wave technology with
(39:58):
five G right, questioning whether modification and chemtrails, all these
different topics, like they're no no topics. So I just
kind of knew it was gonna happen, and it did.
And then after we lost our I think we had
we were like, I don't know. We had tens of
thousands of followers on the very first TikTok channel that
we did, and he got nuked, and I was like, man,
that kind of stung a little bit. Fuck it, let's
(40:19):
make another one. So now we're on like TikTok channel
number five or something, right, and you know, it's got
a few thousand. Sometimes I go live on it, but
then it's gonna get nuked and we'll.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Just fucking fire up. Yeah, he got like a device band,
he got an IP ban.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Dude, they banned my device. Yeah, they locked my whole phone,
my old phone, they locked it completely off of TikTok,
so I wasn't able to even use it until I got.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
A new book.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Dude. That's freaking nuts. I'm on my fourth TikTok account,
I'm on my second Instagram and on my very first YouTube.
But I'm gonna tell you something, bro, it is nuts,
and it has you have to have a lot of
passion to keep on going and not getting moralized. A
lot of us, and I'm just speaking for because of
(41:06):
what I've experienced. A lot of us are in here
because of the money. A lot of us are out
here just because they're trying to make a quick buck
and hijack the truth movement community, whatever you want to
call it. And there's nothing wrong with you grinding and
getting your buck out of it. All the equipment, it's expensive,
keeping up with the software and learning how to do
things everything, I get it. It's expensive. You got to
(41:26):
get paid. There's nothing wrong with hustling. But for example, myself,
one of my boys was like, yo, bro, they're gonna
freaking burn amr account. And he's like one of my
right hand men, and I was like, yo, bro, Like,
you have twenty one thousand followers. Fuck them, dog, you
didn't you made twenty one thousand followers. They didn't make you.
You've been just seeing, dude. The Ransom has the blogs
(41:47):
and it puts out great content. You don't have to
worry about this. You know this is it's just a tool, bro.
And then he gets de moralized and he's like, you
know what, Bro, I don't even feel like doing this anymore.
And he just shuts down.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Oh, you know, do whatever you want, whatever makes you happy.
But I'm telling you, send them a shadow band, We'll
take them. We'll take your followers. This is gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
This is a beautiful, a beautiful representation of having conviction
and also having fun with your conviction because you are guys.
You guys are warriors. Man. At the end of the day,
you guys don't see it. You guys are freaking warriors
of light.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah we try, man, I mean, you know, and I
don't even really look at it that way, to be honest,
but you know it crosses my mind sometimes, right, but
you know, like it's almost a running joke now. I
keep looking at my girl Crystal every episode and I'm like,
when's the website going to be up to sell the shirts?
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Like, we're not even selling anything at this point, Like
there's no merch to sell, there's no.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
There's no paywalls. Really, I mean, yeah, we're gonna put
some long form stuff up on on whatever it's called
Patreon and stuff, But the meat and potatoes it's all free.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, it's all free. The trophy that I still hold
on to to this day is you know I used
to I used to stare at the rankings, right, I
used to be where's our show ranked that today around
the world? Right, Like, I used to look at that
and I got a screenshot. It's on my Instagram somewhere
on the Shadow Band Instagram. The trophy that I still
hold on to the thing that makes me the happiest
is that we were number one in Uganda for entertainment news,
(43:14):
and we were number twelve in Uganda for news. So
those motherfucking you jews from us Bro, the all twelve
dudes over there that have Internet were watching our show.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
It is sick.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
That's fucking awesome. Duff. Yeah, at least you got first
in something I haven't gone first in squat bro. It's funny, Doug.
You know what, It's beautiful though, man, that's Shadow Band podcast.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Hell have a freaking name. And I like the point
that of this conversation, we didn't go anywhere. We stayed
in the same spot. You know what's funny though, We
had a critical thinking moment. We had conversation, a conversation
that was that could spark a fire somewhere else, and
it's very important to do that, and you guys kept
it humble and it reminds everybody that we are here
to have a good time, hey, to give expose the truth.
(44:01):
And we don't have to take it too serious. We
don't have the solution for everything. We want you to
take five seconds off your day. Get the fuck off
TikTok when watching as even though it's amazing, go and
take five seconds every day to go to the search
bar and search it out for yourself. Everybody, please give
them a shout, give them a five star review, and
Apple podcast and a Spotify the them know one more
time where they can find you, Bro, Spotify.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Apple Podcast, YouTube, Instagram. You send us conspiracies on Facebook,
Shadow band podcast on the Facebook group, join the group,
send us stuff. We dive into people's suggestions all the time.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, we've got every platform day. We've got the Twitch,
we got the rumblest You guys hop in on the Twitch.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Man, we take live conspiracies. You drop something in there,
you say the buildings were empty, but we'll dive into
it right there on the line.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I've got a conspiracy for you guys on your next
one that you guys can spark it up inspired by me.
Uh three portals, three portals, slow it up, goshious nuts. Bro.
I went on it last night. We went we went
through it. I don't want to expose it because episode
hasn't dropped it, but oh my goodness, man, it was
a sneeze slapper.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
I love to think I think I might know where
you're going with that Pocket dimensions and ship.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Yeah right, freaking nuts, bro, We will shout you out
on the next live and we will do an honor review.
Tree portals.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
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is Shadow Band Podcast. If you guys enjoy this show,
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And if you haven't already, tell your cousins, Mama's aunties
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Beyond this realm quantum mechanics, we went lightly on simulation theory,
the holographic universe theory.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's a banker of an episode with Shadow Band podcast.
Let them know what they can find you one more time, bro, please.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You two which Oh you got it? You got it?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:05):
And this episode goes out to Jay Reeves twenty twenty five.
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I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
This episode goes out to you, Jay Reeves twenty five,
Stay tuned, kiss, keep the simple, stupid.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
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(02:53):
please give them one. Welcome to Charlie Kremer and Jeff
from Shadow Band Podcast. What's up guys?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Hello, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That was a banger of an intro.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Dude, Yeah, intro dynamite, Bro, I need like more sound
like you're due? Yo. I heard you guys have a
banger of a podcast and the name shadow Band fits
(03:23):
the times that we are in right now. Only shows
Bro that every single person that tries to speak either
gets shot, murdered, ritual sacrificed, assassinated or shadow fucking band canceled,
and that is the culture of the world today. But
before we jump in into the stupid ship bro and
start talking crap, I want you to tell the world
(03:43):
where they can find you.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Spotify. Yeah, we we do the big numbers on Spotify.
YouTube hasn't treated us very nicely. I don't know. I mean,
our lives are up there. We go live every week.
But yeah, yeah, so if you want to get the
good stuff, check us out on Spotify, Apple, podcast, all
that stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah. Twitch, We go live on twitch YouTube x every week,
usually Wednesdays. You know, we do this for fun, so
we're not super strict on ourselves with the scheduling, but
usually on like Wednesday nights you catch us on twitch YEP.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So beautiful. It's a beautiful moment to be alive, to
be a podcaster. And I want to say that we
are then new mainstream media guys. Again, guys, Liadien and gentlemen,
I sturet you check out shut Up and podcast the
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Instagram and all that good stuff and all that good
jazz and if you're watching on YouTube, if you guys
(04:40):
have a YouTube channel. You'll be able to find that too,
so you guys could check them out at YouTube. Guys
like share subscribe. That's the last time I'm gonna say
like shamp subscribe, I promise yo. Today, before we even
started conversating, Bro, I said something about if you guys
knew anything about superposition. I started doing some deep dives.
But it's way too much freaking four syllable words for
my little feeble brain to understand. Bro, break it down
(05:02):
for me. What is super position? And then I'm gonna
amplify that message. I'm gonna start throwing the little nitpicks here.
Just start with that. What do you think about that?
What do you think that is good?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Jeff?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean, that's a that's a heavy topic.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'm you know, I'm I'm also a dumb dumb so
I you know, I don't claim to be an expert
in this type of stuff at all, but from from
what I understand, it's basically particle. I guess the way
it's explained scientifically is like particles can be in two
places at the same time. Right, Is am I correct
on this word? Is this the dumb dumb version of it?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The dumb, dumb version of it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, but I you know, I guess it ties in
with like quantum entanglement, superposition, all these types of things.
The best thing I ever heard about this, Honestly, I
don't remember which freemason on YouTube. I heard this from Tyson,
one of these guys. They basically said, there is no
there is no now, right, because it's all relative. Right,
(06:00):
So they talk about things like this might be slightly
off from superposition. But the idea comes in here. You
ever heard of the Andromeda paradox?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, blow me up, bro, all right?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So basically the idea is, let's say all three of
us are sitting in a room together, okay, and we're
all looking at the Andromeda galaxy. Now, we're told, or
have been told, that the light is traveling from Andromeda, right,
and it's reaching us. And it's taking, however, a million
billion light years for the light to get here. So
when we're looking at it, we're seeing you know, Andromeda
a billion years in the past, right, we're tracking. Yeah,
(06:35):
So the Andromeda paradox is is if one of us
is in motion. Okay, So let's say Angel, you're riding
your bike in the same spot as us. You're just
riding your bike passed, okay, and you also look up
at Andromeda. The light that you're getting from Andromeda is
days apart from the light that we're getting from Andromeda. Now,
we're catching the light at the same time here relatively,
(06:58):
but because you're in motion, and the distance from here
to Andromeda makes that light reach your eyes days later
in the in the terms of what you're looking at
in the sky. And the same thing, if Kreamer was
driving faster by in a car, right, he's going to
see it weeks later than what I'm seeing. Right, So
(07:19):
the idea of time and of now is a complete illusion.
There is no now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Also, go ahead, I was gonna say. It's also like
now is relative, it's to how you're perceiving it, right,
So on a different particles will experience superposition in different ways, right.
And so if something moves over here, but it's quantumly
entangled over there, or if you're observing it, you get
that like observer's bias, things happen differently. If like a
(07:48):
light photon, as you approach the speed of light, your
perception of time infinitely slows down. So as you're getting
approaching the speed of light, everything slows down. But as
you get to the speed of light time there is
no time. So it's been said that like a photon
(08:09):
at the Big Bang, whenever it gets absorbed, it could
be a trillion years later, it could be whatever it is.
No time has passed for that photon. If it could
perceive time, it would have just not It didn't They
didn't even know it existed.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It so it didn't happen. It falls on itself. It
didn't happen. The Big Bang didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
As far as the light from it is concerned. No light. Actually,
if a photon could be conscious of itself, it wouldn't
even know it existed because no time would have passed between.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Because then customer example absorption, if if the lights Okay,
So the experiment, the two slake experiment. The first one
the first one because there's two now. The second one
was a lot more complex. That's the first one was
when they're being observed, they behave different right, which means
no would be to a person that could break this
(09:02):
down and prove that everything and everyone is happening now,
not then, not in the past. Now, so everything's happening
at the same time altogether this moment. Okay, last trying
to thought because I was trying to be smart. But
if it goes backwards, Bro, you're telling me that no
(09:22):
one's observing the Big Bang ever happening. So how are
the super position It never happened. We are a simulation.
You just proved it to me. This is proof here
Apparent Radio podcast. We're gonna get shadow band for this,
no pun intended?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Oh yeah, yeah for sure, Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Well it gets even wilder if you really think about
this because, like you know, Creamer put this in the
context of photon, right, a light particle. Okay, if you
get into quantum physics at all, like you, you understand
that that light particle, that photon is information. It's all
it is. It's just information. It's data, right, So is
(10:02):
that data just not exist?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's it's just it's a weird My brain is too
small for this.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But yo, Paulina Luna, that's your name, the Florida senator
congress woman not trying to shift into politics, but she
said in Joe Rogan something about angels. She didn't say falling,
she didn't say any type. She just said angels.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
A k a.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Aliens ak, whatever the hell you want to call them,
or exist in a place of data. You could call
data your imagination and input of numbers on the screen,
digital electricity, magnetic pulses, you could call it whatever you want.
But data is data exists in a realm that you
could tap into. Follow the angel.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Okay, the word angel is messenger.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Frequency.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, I have this, I have this little theory
and this is going to start evolving here. Now I'm
not really I'm not really Christian, but I like injecting
a little Jesus and everything I do. And I read
the Bible sometimes looking for conspiracy theories, and I walk
out holding Jesus's hand and I'm like, oh, dude, you
just showed me something. I'm like, you have you? So
say in the enemy the last airbander, I want to
(11:13):
call him the dragon. His domain keyword domain is the air,
the kingdom of the air, where airwaves travel, where energy
is for free, electricity travels better than in air. Actually,
even the Bible says that that's his domain. We're influence
(11:33):
where other people get influenced from. So you're like, okay,
what do we worship nowadays, what's also data? What also
lives in a domain? Keyword domain websites? Right, you have
to bio domain to create a website. And where's that?
In ether? It's in the air. They call it the
cloud in the atmosphere. So the way we're worried, what
the hell I was saying here, we're saying say in
(11:55):
rules the airwaves, the air, the domain, the electric magnetic
field where you and I are tapping into. Yet we're
not only tapping into it, We're worshiping it. We're feeding it.
We're feeding our kids into it. It's you see what
I'm saying, right, We're being influenced by influencers. Oh no,
so might I'm not saying hopefully, I'm not over the
fucking place. But it seems like we are in the
(12:18):
end of times and we are worshiping the devil and
this is his realm because we've tapped into it. Electricity,
the Internet.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean this is something I kind of talk
about a lot too. You know, have you ever heard
of Lucifer's technology? You heard that?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So the idea, yeah, the idea, the idea here, and
I might funck this up a little bit, so can
I curse on your show.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Sorry, So I've been doing all since we started. Man,
I'm trying to keep it after sixty seconds for the
for the YouTube.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, it is so basically Lucifer's technology. I just give
you the short version of it. Basically, the idea is
that the demons, the entities whatever they are, the arcons,
whatever you want to call these things, right, right, they
have been influencing or possessing or whatever people through history
to invent these technologies. Okay, it's almost I'm sure you've
(13:13):
probably heard this in passing, right, like that the devices
are portals, right, like these are portals to there's.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
My big.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
So the idea of Lucifer's technology is that these entities,
these arcons, these demons have been possessing or pushing or
nudging people through history to invent the transistor, right, the microchip, right,
all these pieces of technology technology to create and pull
all of this to itself, right, so that you know, we're,
(13:44):
like you said, we're worshiping this this deity or this
entity that we don't even realize that we're worshiping, right.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And we're feeding all our data.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, and the interdimensional psychic vampires. I mean we all
know this, right, We all know that the social media
is fucking us up. The blue light from the screens
is jacking our hole. It makes us say, it makes
SKay the whole thing, right, So everything, so like that's
just you know, that's all pieces of this, this Lucifer's
technology idea.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So you know, I original, This is an original theory.
The subscribers on the show, they're going to be like, Angel,
you are nuts for saying that again. I'm saying that again, guys.
I have this original theory where I did some a
deep dive and I found nudges and I connected all
the dots and I did presentations and thank God for
all the other people that had me on their show
where I was able to give this presentation and I
(14:35):
was okay. So the ole mix. They left their memory
on stone, and they were doing sacrifices. We not only
liquid golden mercury, but liquid crystal glass, and they were
infusing themselves and leaving their memory grafted in the hiroglyph
and carved inside the stone because they were trying to
avoid judgment by tapping into the Earth's algorithm using blood sacrifice.
(14:58):
You know, like, oh, they were trying to open a
portal so that they could avoid judgment and then become
part of the organic algorithm of the earth, the pulsating
life of the earth, the electric magnetic field. They will
try to be one with the elements. I'm like, oh crap,
that's funny. There's a lot more detail into that's a
spider web, and I wish I could break it down
for you guys, but it's way too long just giving
you the nudges on it. And I'm thinking, who else
also did a blood a blood ritual so they can
(15:21):
take us to another realm? Call it salvation Jesus. Oh snap,
it's a direct replica. Every single thing piece that duality
all is knowledge and wisdom and magic rituals and everything
that we are connecting with, every single thing, even hand
gestures to a certain degree, are rituals. So I were like, okay,
so everything that we're practicing is magic. There's one of
(15:42):
the rules that biblically in a biblical lens that Jesus said,
do not do over ten times, which was practicing magic.
All right. So if we're ingesting and we're forced to
use these ousids screens, if we're forced to use all
this Luciferian technology. How can we avoid it? The only
thing I can think of is our intent, our and
(16:02):
our a how do you say this, our own energetic
pulsing and intent, our own algorithm. I want to say,
you are the algorithm. You know what I'm saying. Super precision,
We are super precitioned. We are everything in one.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you're probably right. The only other
option I could think of is you go off the grid,
and I'm talking fully off the grid. You go live
in the wood somewhere like a like a cave in
which sounds dope, but that's a really hard life. Like,
let's be real, you know, I don't think any of
us want to get out there, and you know, do
that to the fullest extent, but no, it is pretty
crazy to think, man, And like you were kind of
(16:37):
just hinting at, you know, the the ancients they knew
something about this. This is why they built all their
pyramids on these lay lines, and there's all the geomancy involved,
and you know they were they were mimicking what they
were seeing in the stars with where they were placing
these things, you know, so they were tapping into what
I call geomancy. Right, the magic of the earth right
like that, yep, And then you know there's a there's
(16:59):
a lot to it, man, to be honest with you, like,
that's a whole deep thing. Like you said, we could
talk for days and days and days about that. The
holographic universe principle, right, which is another.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
What is that principle? Break that down for me, bro.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So that's a deep one. But basically the idea, like
I was saying earlier, that light is information, right, So
if you believe in a holographic universe, which I personally
subscribe to, right, I don't necessarily think we live in
a simulation, and I think space is faking gay, So
I always kind of lean into the holographic universe, which
(17:33):
basically states that there must be a projection of the
information in our reality. And the hologram comes from two
things light and sound. Light and vibrations. And I've talked
to Kreamer about this a lot too. You know, when
you look at various religious texts, it seems that the
creation stories from all these different whatever, they always have
(17:57):
a sound element involved, right, Like God spoke the universe, right.
The Nuddhists believe that the sound of the universe is
the om right, so that there's this weird thing. I
don't really know the full science behind how holograms work.
I understand that it's light and vibration creating a holographic image,
and I think that's what our universe is. And then
(18:19):
the real question just comes to like what is the
projector what is projecting the light that you know the
gods or god has spoken into physical reality.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I'm a I'm gonna add on to that. I think
you're right, this is correct me. For one, guys, around
five to six years ago, they invented forgot his name,
hashtag look it up gt as that shit. Guys, there
was a scientist that broke through this technological milestone where
they were able to make blind people see using this
(18:51):
technology that allows them to read frequencies and then transport
those frequencies into your brain through the chip, and then
that chip makes it into who renders it into color,
so you can start seeing the shape of things even
though you're blind physical blind blind, but through your brain
you're seeing the frequency levels of different things of how
they're resonating, and then the color of the color spectrum
(19:12):
will tell you exactly what it is. Because colors are
frequencies the holographic universe theory, whah.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
And there's like a biblical side to that as well,
you know, like there's the spiritual and that is kind
of always portrayed as what is projecting, So things that
happen in actuality and the spiritual realm are then like
projected in some way in a lesser extent on earth.
And that's not such biblical, but that's in several other
(19:44):
religious things, as Jeff was talking about. So there is
something there. Definitely is something there, you know, regardless of
how you look at it. I think it's becoming more
in the zeitgeist too nowadays, where it's like more people
are getting on board with like, yeah, I mean, like
obviously this is we're not just matter in motion. There's
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something else happening.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
The crazier part about that is is what I call
the lizard people. Right, We're all familiar with the lizard people,
the parasites that run the world, this elite deep state
ruling class. A lot of them are in this Saturn
death cult, the Saturnalia death cult.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
They worship Saturn, and it's not that the planet Saturn
that they're worshiping. They're worshiping the entity Yaw the Bayoth,
which we know of as Saturn or Satan, and in
their belief, in their cult, their religion, the idea is
that this this entity Yaw the Bayoth, the Demiurge, is,
as far as its concern is God of this universe. Okay,
(20:51):
he's not aware of you know, the God above him, right,
the real God, the real Creator, but he thinks that
he's the God of the universe, and through this holographic
universe has projected physical reality out and all of these
lizard people worship that idea. This is why the black
(21:14):
cube is the symbol of Saturn. Have you ever gotten
into the black cube stuff before?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Angel?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Very likely?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, so the black cube. If you look at NASA imagery,
which is all fake by the way, but but they
put their truths out in plain sight. Right, So if
you go on NASA's website and you look at pictures
of Saturn, I'm sure we've all seen it. There's a
perfect hexagon on the north pole of Saturn. Right, the storm,
(21:40):
this giant storm that's making this perfect hexagon on the
north pole of Saturn. Well, a hexagon is a two
dimensional representation of a three dimensional shape, which is a cube. Okay,
every one of the Abrahamic religions has that cube symbolism
in their iconograph, right, so you know, uh in Islam
(22:03):
they have the uh in Mecca, they have that big
black cube.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Then everybody stands in concentric circles around.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right, the rings of power ritual.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yet right in Judaism, they they the rabbis wear that
little black cube on their forehead.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
You can look at the Star of David. Inside the
middle of the Star of David is this hexagon right
which against the cube. And then if you count all
the sides of this of the points, you know you
have six sixty six and all these types of things.
The cross in Christianity, if you fold a cross up
and makes a cube, there's a lot of like weird symbology.
Now this is not me shooting on anybody's religion, right,
(22:41):
but again this these cultists believe that their God is
the creator of this universe, and they they they use
that iconography and those archetypes to kind of like manipulate
the truths behind some of these stories, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And hack car DNA because these symbols bro have a
massive neurological impact that throws you back way when your
ancestors were enslaved by them. You have all the Egyptian, Greek,
and other freaking what else, Chinese and all these other
(23:21):
type of symbols and twisted emblems that they have placed
on the dollar bell for example, on just basic level
stuff right that you think is just there because it
makes it look cool. But if you look into it, bro,
and I'm talking about ages centuries into it, you start
noticing that these were the symbols that your people were
enslaved with. Our ancestors. It doesn't matter what color, or
(23:43):
what what what creed you come from, many of these
assassin's screed gives you a perfect rendition of that truth.
This story where they try to hack your DNA so
that they could take you back into your ancestors. Then
the pull all this information out of you, which is
also why we have been not us for example, but
many of our rulers are obsessed, addicted to the idea
(24:07):
of living forever. They would erect statues, they would make
songs and and put portraits about them so that they
could be remembered forever in your mental faculties. As only
a memory with the specific tone, color, and frequency that
when you speak it or about them, or even think,
then they continue to live on in that ether, in
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that air, in that domain.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Nuts Broach, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Question is this what do we do? We're forced you
and I right now, we're using this. What do we
do to fight back? We have the information, we have
the intent that will power. What do we do?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Bro You know, I've been saying this lately, man, and
I might take some flak for this, but I'm not
necessarily convinced that number one and there's anything that you
can do, right, But I'm also not convinced that it's
necessarily a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
This might be the natural progression of the universe. Right,
this type of thing. So you know, you have these psychopaths,
right they talk about like this great reset that they're
working on, right, this the fourth turning, right, all these
all these terms. You know, they they've done it before,
they're gonna do it again. These people create the prophecies
(25:28):
and then they push the all the things into place
over time to make their own prophecies come true. Right,
So I'm not necessarily convinced that it's all a bad thing.
Right Now, there's syops on top of syops because these
lizard people, these interdimensional psychic vampires, right like, they want
to harness and harvest your energy, your negative energies thinking
(25:50):
about these types of things. But it could just be
that this is just the way that the universe works, right,
So Creamer said this before you know, they tell us,
you know, we have this order out of chaos thing
that they always talk about. Right to me, that's a syop.
Creamer laid this out really well. One time he was
(26:10):
talking about give him the example we were talking about
with the Home Depot exploding.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Explosion, Like, yeah, I got you, I got you. Yeah,
there's a lot of sy ops out there where like
they just tell you things, but then you just put
it into a different context and all of a sudden
you go, oh, hold on, that makes no sense. I
was talking to an engineer guy, and I forget correct me.
If I'm using I might have had I might have
multiple Home Deepot analogies. I was talking to this engineer
(26:39):
guy one time about the creation of the universe. He was,
you know, we were talking about my belief systems and stuff,
and I'm like, yeah, I believe that the universe was created.
You know whether it's billions of years old, trillions years
old or not. I don't really know. I believe God
is perfectly capable of building an old universe. Right, he
makes a tree, it's got rings when he makes it,
cut it down. That's however many years old it is.
(27:00):
That's not a stretch for me. And he was like,
I was like, here, let me, let me, let me
try to distill what you believe. Everything just was. There
was like a big soup of thing and it exploded.
Let's imagine that you went into a house and you're like, WHOA,
This house is beautiful. It's ornate, it's orderly, it's got
(27:21):
systems in place. It's allto regulates its temperature. The landscaping
is perfect. It's got an ecosystem outside. It's got flowers
for this, a garden. This pollinates, this pollinates, that germinates this.
Everything is cohesive. It also has got phone shway things
look nice. It's got energy, and it's got an artist's
touched to it. And you you would want to know
(27:44):
who built that house. And if I sat there and
said a home depot got struck by lightning and exploded,
it had all the pieces that you needed into it
and it exploded and it turned into this beautiful house.
You'd go retarded. I go, yeah, that's the dumbest explanation
for what your eyeballs see. But your eyeball see order,
(28:07):
and scientifically you cannot get order out of chaos. It
is impossible. The likelihood is just so exponential, no real
intellectual whatever you even consider it. But your you can
look at something and see that it is orderly, see that,
(28:28):
you know, you can uh, those infinite sequences what are
those called? Those like fracta Yeah, where you can just
keeping on it and it just keeps going into It's
like that doesn't randomly happen, but you see it and
they will tell you nope, that's not it. And then
they do that with everything. So you see clearly a
(28:50):
conspiracy somewhere. You see pyramids with superstructures underneath, and they go,
there's no breakaway civilizations. What are you talking about? You
see drones getting hit with hell fire missles and they go,
Aliens get out of down.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So basically the idea is order out of chaos is
the sie op. It's chaos out of order. So the
universe might just be moving towards chaos. Naturally, and to
answer your question, there's probably nothing that we can do
to fight back because it's just the natural order of
things in the universe, right, So trying to resist it
and fight back is causing negative energy that there's these
(29:26):
psychopaths are feeding off of.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Even Biblically, God says salvation is up to you.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, if they want to take over, let them take over.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You know, it's not demoralizing, guys. It actually gives you
a lot of power, more than you think people will
be your podcasting that I'm giving you the guys say,
I'm allowing you, guys, to tap into the information and
then it's your It's up to you to retain it.
I always say this at the end of a lot
of different shows, especially when I'm an on somebody else's
(30:01):
show and I'm like, the final words would be from
my end would be like, Yo, you can't do anything.
For example, I'm a father. It's just up to me
for my kids to be raised properly and for my
salvation to be It's up to me to wake up
in the morning. It's up to me to make sure
that my house is clean, up, to me to make
sure that my wife is okay, et cetera. I could
(30:23):
only change it or my two feet lay. I only
have control where my two feet lay, and I only
have control over one in mind, which is mind?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
That is it.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I start changing my habits, my thought patterns, and I'm
telling you this. I'm a freaking tweaker. Tweakers fucking telling
you this. When you start changing your thought patterns, your habits,
when you stop ingesting all these freaking movies and stop
ingesting stuff that they're telling you in the freaking media,
it doesn't matter who you fucking voted for. When you
stop ingesting, they're trash. You start behaving less like one,
(30:53):
and everything changes. This my domain, my household, my roof,
my don't it's the only place where I could make
radical changes. And then it would resonate like a freaking
It'll resonate like pond, like a pond like when you drop,
you know, like a little stone on the top and
then the ripples. That's the only way that you can resonate,
(31:13):
and other people start getting influenced by that.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, and resonates a good word for that, because as
like if you think like you hit a guitar string
when it's like perfectly in tune, you get that tuning
fork next to it, and now you have like some
So that's always like, at least for me, what's the
like what the Bible and it's it's teachings and stuff.
That's the tuning for you. Debang boom, and that's the
(31:37):
note you're trying to get to. And when you get there,
when you're in tune, you get that maximum frequency, you
get that resonance, and then everything else starts to get
in tune as well. Now you can tune the next thing,
the next thing, the next thing, and then when other
people are tuning around you. I t how you get movements,
and that's really the only thing you can do. You
(31:57):
can get right, and you can try to get other
people to help them get their life in order, and
that's how you get a movement. But everybody's in chaos
right now. Everybody's lives are out of order, and no
one really knows what's going on. It's a really bad
time for some of these like really radical things to
be happening in American society at the moment, because we're
very disjointed, we have a very muddy identity. We're all
(32:20):
over the place. The right is all over the place.
The left is all over the place. We both still
believe that there is a left in a right It's.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Like, yeah, but you know, and it's it's just to me,
it's all a big siop, right because when they they
scare us with this idea like, hey, after the fourth Turning,
there's going to be this technocratic you know, Orwellian government.
It's going to be AI controlled surveillance state. You know,
blah blah blah blah blah, all the things that we all.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Have heard about.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
To me, that's just a sy op to keep us
distracted from what you guys were talking about. Right, Like,
if you can separate yourself from those things, you know,
you can affect real change, right, Like, I think I
don't know about Creamer. Cream has always been a good guy,
but like you and Angel, right Like, there was a
time in my past where I was a dirtbag bro.
Right Like, but you know, over the years, I've adjusted
(33:06):
my my frequencies, if you will, Right, let's get woo
about it. And you know, and I do notice that
a lot of things pan out much better in this
state than they did in the state prior. Even though
it might have been fun and all, uh, you know
it was. It was wrecking, it was causing chaos in
my life. Right, So now I have a much more
(33:27):
like organized and structured way of living and all these
types of things, and it's definitely much better. So I
think that the syop really is order out of chaos.
They want us to think that they're that they're causing
chaos so that they can bring their order after this
fourth turning, when in reality it's the opposite.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah, Like think about like cimatics and stuff like you
hear like those sine waves and they put like the
sand or whatever, and it makes a pattern. A lot
of those there's no pattern. The wave is just too crazy,
it's disjointed, it's it's it's can't since there's other waves
that are canceling it. But when you get an actual
frequency that has order to it, you get that note
(34:07):
and everything aligns into a pattern. One that happens in
your life. You move through life with that frequency, that tune,
you're tuned. Then things start to order themselves in front
of you throughout your life. Groups of individuals can do that,
and we see that as them.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
They do that.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
The people behind the shadows, they're hyper ordered. They come
from families, rothschilds and whatever is. They have families, and
everything is orderly, everything is hyper ordered, and they move
with that tune and everything just bends to what they
want because they got a tune. And as we see,
the universe works. When you've got that frequency, things align
(34:48):
themselves in front of you. So they are locked in
with a tune. They got the megaphone and the big speakers,
and they're blasting their tune on us, and so they
make us muddy tune, no tune. Everybody's just all over
the place, no order. They get to put whatever they
want on us.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You know, it's funny. Stockholm syndrome. We have Stockholm syndrome,
and we have and then we pass it on to
our children. We love being in slips. We love being
and having these behaving in low frequency patterns. Bro we
love it. We love it so much we make it
part of our own fucking body. We love it so
much that we don't only make it part of our
own body, but then we make our kids have a
(35:28):
second part of the body. We can't live without it.
It is nuts. I dislike using the word hey. I
dislike the fact that we're so in love with it. Bro.
I'm not saying guys to not tune into the podcast.
I'm saying, even this podcast, tune in at your own
(35:48):
discretion and try to tune into something more spiritual, something
that's gonna bring you some light, you know what, something
that's gonna bring you peace and freedom. And I'm talking
to you about like you have to just I for myself,
I like now the freedom I have is saying I
have the liberty to freaking go to work, come back,
(36:09):
and that depend on anything or anyone a pipe, a
bag of freaking meth or shit. You know what I'm saying.
I have that freedom. I feel real free now. I
can speak to my kids and not feel freaking paranoid
radio and shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
am completely at peace and free. So that's the level
of success. I would appreciate everybody to reach and let
me on the way out, Guys. I wanted to pivot
(36:30):
this conversation too, to give you a highlight basically, to
make sure that people know what you guys are about.
What got you Shadow band the first time?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Jeff, you got a shadow You're welcome, bro. No, honestly, man,
it's a long story. But the short story of it
is we started this podcast. At first, I was just
a guest on Creamer's podcast and we did an episode
and it was like an hour and a half two
hours long, where I kind of just ranted on about
the sound death Cold, you know, and Epstein and all
(37:03):
this type of stuff, right, and I was just kind
of trying to wake up Creamer and his wife. That
was pretty much it. And then it was a banger.
So we were like, let's just turn this into its
own show. Well, we got to about episode five or
six and we started really getting deep into like you know,
Epstein stuff, human trafficking stuff, baby factories, like all this
(37:24):
type of shit. And that was when the strike started coming.
I mean, do we got We got striked on YouTube.
We did a Jeffrey Epstein episode and we got striked,
and the strike literally said cyber bullying. We got hit
for cyberbullying Epstein. Think about that, Okay, crazy.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And they bullying.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
But then like on TikTok oh, yeah, medical misinformation because
we started this like in the height of COVID, right,
so yeah, man, yeah, we were we were getting hit
with you know, oh you said this about the back
scene Oh you said viruses are fake. Oh, we'll nuke
you off a discord. Oh you said you know the
vaccines are causing injuries, will nuke you off of TikTok.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
You know, it was just one thing after the next.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
It was almost like every other episode we did, a
platform was getting nuked or striked. So, you know, at first,
we were kind of like trying to be careful because
we were trying to build a show, right, so we
didn't want to like have everything nuked. So we started
to I wouldn't say self censor, but we were like
actively like thinking about okay, like how do I say
(38:31):
this thing without saying this thing? I think that's gone
out the window.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We've just yeah, we just started streaming on Twitch and
stuff and then streaming out to x and YouTube and
all that stuff, and we're just like, you know what,
I'm not trying to turn this into the next Rogan
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
It's just it's what we have.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
You know, we are freethinkers. I'm not you know, so
dogmatic about my you know, Christian beliefs that I can't
even have a conversation outside of that tangential to that.
And Jeff also is not so close minded about you know,
his We're just we just think and we go wherever
the thoughts take us. And if that continues to get
(39:12):
us banned in places, I don't know why freaking some
of these platforms single us out over some larger podcasts
that say even crazier thing like Nick went this cliffs
are all over Instagram. Why am I getting banned? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yes, And you know it's funny because we named the
show Shadow Band Podcast before we ever got banned on anything.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
It was almost like I fling.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I was in that flow state thinking about this, you know,
I was on that frequency, and I was in that
flow state, and the name just came to me, and
it was almost like a prediction in a way. Right,
it was like I just knew that this was going
to happen. Right, I've been in conspiracy theorist my whole life,
and I knew that talking about some of this stuff
was a big no no right, questioning nine to eleven narratives,
questioning you know, the safety of millimeter wave technology with
(39:58):
five G right, questioning whether modification and chemtrails, all these
different topics, like they're no no topics. So I just
kind of knew it was gonna happen, and it did.
And then after we lost our I think we had
we were like, I don't know. We had tens of
thousands of followers on the very first TikTok channel that
we did, and he got nuked, and I was like, man,
that kind of stung a little bit. Fuck it, let's
(40:19):
make another one. So now we're on like TikTok channel
number five or something, right, and you know, it's got
a few thousand. Sometimes I go live on it, but
then it's gonna get nuked and we'll.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Just fucking fire up. Yeah, he got like a device band,
he got an IP ban.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Dude, they banned my device. Yeah, they locked my whole phone,
my old phone, they locked it completely off of TikTok,
so I wasn't able to even use it until I got.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
A new book.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Dude. That's freaking nuts. I'm on my fourth TikTok account,
I'm on my second Instagram and on my very first YouTube.
But I'm gonna tell you something, bro, it is nuts,
and it has you have to have a lot of
passion to keep on going and not getting moralized. A
lot of us, and I'm just speaking for because of
(41:06):
what I've experienced. A lot of us are in here
because of the money. A lot of us are out
here just because they're trying to make a quick buck
and hijack the truth movement community, whatever you want to
call it. And there's nothing wrong with you grinding and
getting your buck out of it. All the equipment, it's expensive,
keeping up with the software and learning how to do
things everything, I get it. It's expensive. You got to
(41:26):
get paid. There's nothing wrong with hustling. But for example, myself,
one of my boys was like, yo, bro, they're gonna
freaking burn amr account. And he's like one of my
right hand men, and I was like, yo, bro, Like,
you have twenty one thousand followers. Fuck them, dog, you
didn't you made twenty one thousand followers. They didn't make you.
You've been just seeing, dude. The Ransom has the blogs
(41:47):
and it puts out great content. You don't have to
worry about this. You know this is it's just a tool, bro.
And then he gets de moralized and he's like, you
know what, Bro, I don't even feel like doing this anymore.
And he just shuts down.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Oh, you know, do whatever you want, whatever makes you happy.
But I'm telling you, send them a shadow band, We'll
take them. We'll take your followers. This is gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
This is a beautiful, a beautiful representation of having conviction
and also having fun with your conviction because you are guys.
You guys are warriors. Man. At the end of the day,
you guys don't see it. You guys are freaking warriors
of light.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah we try, man, I mean, you know, and I
don't even really look at it that way, to be honest,
but you know it crosses my mind sometimes, right, but
you know, like it's almost a running joke now. I
keep looking at my girl Crystal every episode and I'm like,
when's the website going to be up to sell the shirts?
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Like, we're not even selling anything at this point, Like
there's no merch to sell, there's no.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
There's no paywalls. Really, I mean, yeah, we're gonna put
some long form stuff up on on whatever it's called
Patreon and stuff, But the meat and potatoes it's all free.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, it's all free. The trophy that I still hold
on to to this day is you know I used
to I used to stare at the rankings, right, I
used to be where's our show ranked that today around
the world? Right, Like, I used to look at that
and I got a screenshot. It's on my Instagram somewhere
on the Shadow Band Instagram. The trophy that I still
hold on to the thing that makes me the happiest
is that we were number one in Uganda for entertainment news,
(43:14):
and we were number twelve in Uganda for news. So
those motherfucking you jews from us Bro, the all twelve
dudes over there that have Internet were watching our show.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
It is sick.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
That's fucking awesome. Duff. Yeah, at least you got first
in something I haven't gone first in squat bro. It's funny, Doug.
You know what, It's beautiful though, man, that's Shadow Band podcast.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Hell have a freaking name. And I like the point
that of this conversation, we didn't go anywhere. We stayed
in the same spot. You know what's funny though, We
had a critical thinking moment. We had conversation, a conversation
that was that could spark a fire somewhere else, and
it's very important to do that, and you guys kept
it humble and it reminds everybody that we are here
to have a good time, hey, to give expose the truth.
(44:01):
And we don't have to take it too serious. We
don't have the solution for everything. We want you to
take five seconds off your day. Get the fuck off
TikTok when watching as even though it's amazing, go and
take five seconds every day to go to the search
bar and search it out for yourself. Everybody, please give
them a shout, give them a five star review, and
Apple podcast and a Spotify the them know one more
time where they can find you, Bro, Spotify.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Apple Podcast, YouTube, Instagram. You send us conspiracies on Facebook,
Shadow band podcast on the Facebook group, join the group,
send us stuff. We dive into people's suggestions all the time.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, we've got every platform day. We've got the Twitch,
we got the rumblest You guys hop in on the Twitch.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Man, we take live conspiracies. You drop something in there,
you say the buildings were empty, but we'll dive into
it right there on the line.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I've got a conspiracy for you guys on your next
one that you guys can spark it up inspired by me.
Uh three portals, three portals, slow it up, goshious nuts. Bro.
I went on it last night. We went we went
through it. I don't want to expose it because episode
hasn't dropped it, but oh my goodness, man, it was
a sneeze slapper.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
I love to think I think I might know where
you're going with that Pocket dimensions and ship.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Yeah right, freaking nuts, bro, We will shout you out
on the next live and we will do an honor review.
Tree portals.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Make sure you check them out, Ladies and gentlemen. That
is Shadow Band Podcast. If you guys enjoy this show,
you guys are on YouTube, make sure you check us
out again, like shame, subscribe the buttons down here somewhere,
And if you haven't already, tell your cousins, Mama's aunties
everybody about the freaking show. Give them a shout. Drop
a five survey on Apple podcast in a Spotify that
allows other people to enjoy the show as much as
I enjoyed making it. Peace a radio
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