July 27, 2025 • 55 mins
Chance from Innerverse Podcast joins Paranoi Radio for a raw dive into the dark origins of money. From ritual sacrifice hidden in the dollar to the spiritual chains of currency control — we expose how the monetary system feeds the machine. Sacred energy, corrupted commerce, and the occult behind your paycheck. This one hits deep. Don’t blink.
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(02:12):
on the pole and set the freaking mood. Please give
a warm welcome to my next special guest. He is
doing his rounds. He is the host of the Innerverse
Innverse podcast. If I'm if I'm butchering that up, I'm sorry.
Please let me know how it is. Guys, give a
warm welcome to Chance.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Chance? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I'm doing good man, I'm quite entertained by how fast
you talk. I I'll try to keep up because I
have plenty that I could talk about. So if I
can get on your level speed wise, we might be
don't turn this episode on times to speed, guys, you
will You'll be lost.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yo. It's twenty because I listened to all of my
episodes a double speed.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But you know what, bro You're amazing. You're doing your rounds,
You're hard working out there. You're kicking ass, dropping posts,
dropping content, putting in the work. I'm humbled and it's
a privilege to have you on the show today and
show my platform with you. Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is what it's about.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think networking and uplifting each other is one of
the best parts of this journey. And when we make
it to the top, because we will and I see
you there, Bro, we're gonna be able to freaking hug
each other, you know, and and rejoy is and share, share,
share some food and comments and labs with each other.
But today we're gonna be sharing the platform and some time.
Please let them know where they can find you, bro.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, man, my stuff said Introverse podcast dot com. That's
where you'll find links to all the channels where my
podcast is available. YouTube, Substack, Patreon, Spotify, iTunes, you know,
the whole thing. And while you're there, check out the
sound Healing page. I'm a biofield tuner and I work
with clients one on one to help them balance their
(03:40):
energy field. It's not like sitting in a yoga studio
with singing bowls, although that's great this is more like
psychic acupuncture, where we go in and tweak your belief
systems to help your mind and body be better flowing
and connected. And it's it's really amazing. I've done lots
of interviews about that, so we don't have to talk
about that at link.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
No no, no, no, no, no, tell me. I'm you know,
you know I always say is life isn't about finding yourself,
but about creating yourself. And like, I want to get
this point of view.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What is it that you do?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You said, psychedelic acupuncture. That's it's like.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Psychic Yeah, like psychic acupuncture. Okay, So in a nutshell,
you have an energy field that your body sits right
in the middle of. And when you really get to
the true core essence of what this reality is that
it's a mental reality. That the physical is all stuff
in your mind. So it is psychedelic in that sense.
It's all in your head. Your body is in your mind.
(04:34):
Your mind is not in your body. There's nowhere in
your body where your mind lives. Right. So this field,
you can call it electromagnetic, you can call it plasma, bioplasma,
however you want to interpret this. It's measurable we have
this energy field, and within that is information, memory, emotion, beliefs. Basically,
those things are configured in such a way that where
(04:57):
they're limiting or repressed, it reduces the fullness of flow
of that energy field. And there's an anatomy to your
energy field. Where energy is at in that field left, right, up, down, forward,
back has specific information that's consistent from person to person.
Like people's right hip usually carries the you know, if
(05:19):
there's offset energy there that's not in balance. It carries
the vibe of I have to work myself to exhaustion
or depletion, or I'm not good enough, that kind of
like guilt driven overdoing it, or the you know, the
left shoulder has to do with taking on other people's
negative energy or having stuck personal sadness and grief. And
(05:39):
this is consistent for everybody. And when I'm using my
tuning forks, waving them around in my living room, we're
on a zoom call, I can find where the stuck
energy is at, where it's at in relationship to the body,
Like distance away tells me how old you were when
the energy got stuck there, or the experience that caused it,
or the belief was formed. So in a nutshell, I
(06:01):
might be able to just whip out a tuning forks,
swing it through the space around your body that I'm using.
You know, I'm putting you on my table with my
imagination holographically, and I'll say, hey, how about twenty two
years old did you get in a car wreck and
lose a lot of blood? And I would be able
to get that information out of your energy field, you know,
(06:23):
sometimes more specific, sometimes more general, but really then you're
going to remember something from that age, from that time,
from that type of experience, and then we're going to
dig deeper and find out where the pattern is that
and how that pattern is replaying in your life still,
so that we can eliminate it and get you back
into a feeling of a full flow, full trust with
(06:44):
life and with yourself and the highest potential that you
can have. So clients always report feeling lighter after they've
finished discussion. Usually they have more personal vitality available, and
in the case of chronic health issues or recent surprise
health problems that they haven't been able to figure out conventionally,
(07:04):
we often can figure out what the mental aspect of
that is and resolve it right away and the results.
No guarantees, but anything's possible. It's always good when you
get a session. Sometimes we might need to take more
than one swing at it, work around the issue for
more than one session. But you know, all kinds of
stuff happens. People. You're talking about your parasite cleanse. I've
(07:26):
seen many clients have their entire gut biome shift after
a tuning session. Get out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
They don't even take they don't even take probiotics or anything.
And after the session they have different food cravings and
a versions on a healthier level. Or they can digest
stuff that used to give them serious problems.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Wow, make sure you check them out.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, I had a is it almost I'm confusing
the two. I'm sure I am confusing the two. Reiki
healing it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, it is not the same, but it is in
the same ballpark.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, But like I said, when I liken it to
psychic acupuncture, it's because things like reiki or sound bath,
some singing bowls, things like that, you're kind of just
getting washed over with frequencies or positive energy and that
has a good effect on you for sure. And there's
nothing wrong with it. But with biofield tuning, we're like
pinpointing where the stuck thing is in your mind or
(08:25):
in your emotional body, going straight to it exactly when
it happened, how it got there, and then we're giving
you a free will choice to change that thing that
was like subconsciously affecting you. So it's way more like
surgical and precise. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I love it. I've mentioned this on a show before.
The ancient like ancient Egyptians, you know those when they
were entombed, they were holding onto those tools. They weren't
just tools, bro, they were tuning fork. They were used
to vibate frequency and make sure they would transcending into
the next level. Right, And I would say, almost almost
(09:01):
in tune with the biometrics. What do you use to
open up your phone to open up apps?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I like these these are the same as like the
pharaoh rods you're talking about. I got a copper for
the right and zinc for the left, and you can
just hold them in each hand or I like to
just keep him in the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'm holding it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's the laboradite there, Bro. That's nice.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, Bro, I was gifted. I was gifted some stones
like the one You're behind your being a long time
ago by Ricky Healer and then my my buddy, uh
he is he does, I'll go, what's this called? He
gave me this, this pyramid for creativity.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He is organized, it's organized.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Everybody else is an organized and his name is organ
because he loves an organ in a night.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I've tuned to that guy.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Really, he's amazing. Bro. He's a cool dude. Bro, young
young cat you know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, inspiring for young'ins to be, you know, on
the level like that.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
When I'm doing tuning, is I have like a table
set up with all the crystals, and I build the
crystals into the shape of a body, using the appropriate
crystals for the different energy centers and parts of the body,
and then I work on that like it was them,
the person I'm talking to, and all the forks react
as if they were in the room. So it works. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Frequency is a radio tune and it's also a weapon,
if you guys, if you guys means use it. It's
very important. Thank you again for suing all that stuff.
And then kudos to you and Matt Shadows to organize
Isaac everybody around the job practicing those arts and and
and liberating people and making sure that people live a
little bit. I'm more uplifted again, like guy said in
the beginning of the show, and lighter and finding themselves
(10:38):
and being creators instead of spectators. Yo, today you have
a topic. Let me pull on my notes. How rude
of me you said, I've seen on your one one
of your recent posts, you had an episode regarding financial
ritual magic. Whoa good stuff man? Talk to me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I had, ah So a buddy of mine named Brandon Sterling.
He is like a turncoat financial industry trading insider. You know,
he's done that his whole adult life. He's a pretty
young guy actually, but successful at it. He knows the
you know, the secrets, and he wanted He's just recently
launched a course to teach people how to start a
(11:18):
business trading, and I was like, okay, well, if we're
going to bring this onto my show, I needed to
take it to a cult level because he was already
likening his process to a form of alchemy, like alchemizing
time into wealth. And I was like, dude, you don't
even know how correct you are. About how that's alchemy,
(11:39):
and you know, he's not as well versed in those
esoteric subjects, although he's a great dude and very knowledgeable
about a lot of stuff. So he gives me his
presentation and then I cross referenced it against one of
my favorite books, Money Grows on the Tree of Knowledge
by Tracy Twyman. Yeah, okay, yeah, and I was like,
(12:01):
I was mind blown because I didn't know much about trading.
But once I started to get the handle on like
the trading vernacular and the process, the different parts of it,
I was like, this is this is alchemy af So yeah,
and I still have notes about that. I've got actually
bigger notes than what I was able to share in
(12:21):
my talk with him. But you know, money is literally
a encapsulated ritual sacrifice. It's a symbolic ritual sacrifice, and
it always has been. You know, lead into gold in
alchemy is the same as time turning time into capital
in the modern sense, lead in time being both Saturnian.
(12:42):
We can go deeper on any of these subjects. I'm
kind of giving you the top down overview, you know,
and then it has lots to do with time actually
as an engine of extraction of life force and our
misunderstanding of what time is, that there's more than one
kind of time is what separates the people who are
having their life for us extracted by this economy from
(13:03):
the people who are profiting and like extracting the gold
from the people. No, we could talk about you know,
ancient temple coins, uh, the specifics of trading like derivatives type,
contracts hedging, you know how that relates to atonement magic.
We could talk about the spellcraft of money, velocity and
how the gates are opened or closed on the actual
(13:26):
speed of how the economy is flowing. Ah, you know,
there's there's so much to it.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'll let's let's let's filter this. That will be the
bottleneck on this one. You said, first of all, ancient coins.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Ancient coins, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I to get into that. And then the specific the
specifics on the trading, how woulds it? How would doesn't
make it magical? I understand. And the reason I'm saying
this is because you're probably gonna pick pick up after
this and then just lead on the reason I'm saying
this is because I know for like they close the market,
they open the market in specific days and when the
moon is full. They have bigger leads. I want to
(14:07):
say to move money, move your time and specific people,
and control your people. This is why the bank opens
at three am in the morning PST. Where I'm at,
and I wake up at three every day to go
to work. I open, I go, I open my shop.
So I walk it out four in the morning. I'm
already there by the time everybody's waking up, I'm awake
with the East coast. The point is all of the
(14:29):
all of this is getting its transcendence. They rob you
from your time that you don't even know how to.
You can't even collect rainwater legally in California because it's
a freaking felony, you know. They robbing you from you
from from we They're telling you when you have to
eat breakfast, when you have to go take a dump,
when you have to check in, clock in, collect charge,
and then pay your rent. So there, it's it's everything
(14:49):
is a collective of collecting your time, if it makes
any sense. But the transaction of energy, what it takes
to manufacture money so that you can live and surviving
that the same hamster wheel is also part of the magic.
This is just a broad point of view of mind.
Get me, but what is that, bro, The coins of
the ancients. So this is ancient stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Huh yeah, none of this is new. So I'll just
start going through some stuff and you stop me. If
you had it, bro, if.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You choose ques randomize that we used to have this
segment of the show called the Randomizing Machine. Just hit
the randomizing machine. Just hashtag looking up everybody, don't take
my word for it, and make sure you check him
out and then and then take five times five seconds
of your day to go to the search bar and
stop searching ass on TikTok and just go search stuff.
That's going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Okay. Well, first of all, people are probably not aware
of what the origin of money actually is.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
They think maybe people invented money so that they could
trade more easily as a store of value. But actually
that's not where money started. That's what money became, but
it was something else. It was originally ritual offerings are
where coins came from them. So in the same sense,
and we'll get there, every dollar is actually a receipt
(16:06):
of a sacrifice and that's so that's not changed. But
if you go back to the ancient world, the ancient
priesthood which kind of ran everything. Coins were minted in
the temple, and then they were given as a receipt
for whenever you made an offering of like you gave
them some wheat or you gave them a goat to sacrifice.
(16:28):
The word shekel actually meant a bushel of wheat. So
temples were met were handed out these coins, and then
you would trade that coin for some kind of temple service,
like you wanted divination, or you wanted them to pray
for the gods to not destroy your farm with a
flood or something like that. And so even in the
(16:53):
same sense, like just the way that we can you know,
the death right, death and debt, people equate those things.
Or like the word mortgage is a word gauge is
a death pledge. The word finance comes from the old
French word finair, which means to end or to the
settling of a debt. So you know, there's definitely all
(17:13):
of this idea of debt and sin baked in to
our financial system because it came from the priesthood originally.
Even like bonds, right, people trade stocks and bonds. Those
are words for slaves, right, Like you're in the stocks,
like they put you in the stocks if you were
(17:34):
a bad slave and they whip you like there's no
a bond was a tenant farm or a surf in
the old feudal system. Obviously we know bonds are still
implying being tied or tied down, right, So now we
sacrifice our time instead of goats to get these coins,
but it's still kind of a it's still a sacrifice.
(17:56):
And the modern dollars, every dollar's created with debt attached
to it, right, Like when the fiat system was created,
it was completely different than having a note that was
exchangeable for gold like a piece of paper. Now there's
every dollar that's created by the Fed. This was like
the first thing that woke me up to conspiracy. So
(18:18):
maybe that's why back in college, maybe this is why
it's a topic that is still dear to me. But
when I found out that every dollar created was loaned
to the US government with interest, and that there was
always more debt because of this interest based loan in
the economy than there was dollars to pay the debt,
(18:38):
I was like, what wait. So every time they get
on the news and they're like, the national debt is
skyrocketing the national deficit. It's going through the roof. We
got to get that debt down. Yeah, but you can't.
The money that's being used to pay the debt comes
with interest attached to it. There's musical chairs. There's never
as much money in the system as there is money
(18:59):
owed to the system. So it's a it's a hilarious joke.
And anyway, these coins, you know, back in the ancient world,
there was never a coin that was struck without a
god or God's on it. And the modern coins still
have our national deities that represent our mythology of our countries, right,
(19:20):
presidents that are basically godlike in the in the storyline
of the origin in the nation, possibly even mostly mythological
stories about our founding fathers. To be honest, for all
we know, but as we okay, so where do you
want me to go from here? Because I could go
(19:40):
in a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Let your gut tell you where, because at the end
of the day, this message is huge and we're probably
not going to get to all of them.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, Okay, Okay, So modern finance is
literally perfect alchemy because instead of that old concept, which
I think was probably always an allegory to begin with
of turning to gold. Now they're turning time into value
or imagination into value. Money in our system is basically
(20:09):
x nihilo like it's value that's created out of literally
thin air, out of imagination, or at least that's what
it looks like. But the truth is the value is
coming from your time people in the system. So even
though at a first glance it's like they're just putting numbers,
like whenever they loan somebody you pay with a credit card,
numbers are just created on a digital system. They come
(20:30):
out of nowhere, and so it's almost like value is
being invented out of nothing. But it's not out of nothing.
It's your This capital is the crystallization of your labor
that is measured over time, and in alchemy, time is
symbolized by the lead, which is Saturn. Who is you know,
big Daddy Saturn, Papa Satan. However you want people have
(20:51):
a idea about that, you know, not that Saturn is
itself an evil force. It's part of just what brings
structure as an archetype into our realm, and that's important,
we need that. But yeah, it's uh, you know this
this is the black Cube cult for sure, Like they
really love their saturn because they they're getting so much
out of everyone else's time. So in trading, for example,
(21:13):
like modern financial trading, they're turning this lead into gold
or profit and basically through ritual conversion of uncertainty into value,
which they do by staying directionally agnostic to the market.
Meaning just like you know, just like the central pillar
(21:34):
of every great teaching of being in the middle path
that the alchemical gold is, like, you know, the the
blending of opposites. Traders that are like wise, they're not
bullish or bearish, they're not stuck on polarity, but they
are making money on Marcus going up and down. They're engineering,
(21:54):
you know, in some levels, they're engineering certain black Swan
events to be ready for stuff to go upward before yeah, yeah,
so many times. So in traditional societies of the ancient world,
value of objects was rooted in the essence of those objects,
like the craftsmen that made it, you know, the craftsman's stamp.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That was on it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
But now where value is being derived and like this
cali yuga is about units hours, you know, digits on
a screen. It's like it's a very quantitative instead of
qualitative system. And when we talk about the money being
like an alchemical sacrifice, it's because when we talk about debt,
(22:42):
we're talking about something we're selling out from the future
in a sense like I'll pay you later. My wife
likes to talk about how like if you leave a
chore undone, then you know you're basically selling out future yourself,
like you want to leave that down. Yeah, it's so true,
(23:06):
so true. So if every dollar in our system is
coming from a debt based place, and people are constantly
taking out further debt loans, credit, et cetera, and literally
every time you use your credit card, you're adding inflation
to the system because that money is not being it's
being created out of nothing. Then we're selling out our
(23:28):
not just our future self, but also like our children,
because they're going to have to suffer the consequences in
the future. When you look at charts of like the
S and P five hundred or how many like how
much stock in the s and P five hundred someone's
wages could buy, like on an hour, like a year's wages,
how much stock they could buy with that or whatever?
(23:49):
How do you want to metric that the chart from
like the sixties to now how much you could buy
is like, oo, just plummeting. And I think we all
probably noticed this, especially your age, my age, the kind
of the kind of things our parents could do with
like a single income family.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Word, I remember, if I may interject, my my, I
remember when when my mom my parents used to put
money away. If they have ten thousand dollars in the bank,
ten thousand dollars in the bank today does not buy
you the same thing that we had before. And they're
still collecting interest on that, and they're still lending your
same money to everybody else. It's really interesting how it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
They're robbing you not only from your time taxed and
then putting in you to your savings because one ten
thousand dollars, what ten thousand dollars could have bought you
in the nineteen seventies cannot buy you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's the same power, it doesn't have the same power.
It's actually chopped off almost by forty percent.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah it's crazy, bro, Yeah, well what not? But also yeah, yeah,
it's just it's just ridiculous, you know, Like it's not
just the inflation, but also it's how disproportionate the amount
that wages have not gone up versus how much money
has inflated. So the average person's you know, what chunk
(25:13):
of someone's yearly income buying a car would be or
buying a house would be now versus the eighties or
seventies or sixties. It's not even close. It's not even close.
And like you brought up a men's mental health Awareness
month or whatever, and the main thing that causes men
to commit suicide is when they realize that they've lost
(25:33):
their equity, like that what they've worked for for a
long time fizzles out, or they lose all of their
progress in some sense. That is the number one cause
for men to commit suicide is lost equity. And this
system is constantly just robbing people's equity out from under them.
And that's why I thought, you know, it's actually, even
(25:56):
though it's not the sweetest topic in terms of of
fun to discuss, to have this guy on to talk
about trading and teaching people to do it, I thought, well,
this could save someone's life, you know, because when you
think about it, because trading is basically neo in the matrix.
(26:17):
If you know how to do it, you're no longer
the one who's getting their time stolen essentially, or their
you know, their life force extracted as they give up
their time. You're reading the matrix code. You know, you're
creating your own wealth out of the system. And that's
the thing. It's like, it's a system, so it is
itself a moral it's just a question of it's just
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a knowledge differential. That's all the occult ever was. That's
all magic ever was, in a sense, is just understanding
of universal psychology. And when you realize it makes it
more interesting when you realize that even markets, things that
seem so artificial, are themselves an expression of universal law,
the human or collective universal psyche, which operates on the
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principles of alchemy, just like every other creative process in nature.
Once you see that, it might make it a little
more interesting to get involved. Actually, and that framework, if
you've learned it elsewhere, or you can take it elsewhere.
It's like it applies across the board, but with Okay,
so when I'm talking about youth being sacrificed, you know,
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in a lot of old ol chemical illustrations they'll show
Saturn and Hermes or mercury and Saturn is cutting off
Hermi's legs at the knees, and like, you know what
is that? What is that about? Well, it's about how
in an alchemical process, the mercury element is sacrificed for
the alchemical you know, completion of the work. In the
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same sense, our current system is all about Chronos or
Saturn devouring his offspring to stay on top emvowering mercury. There, Like,
what is what the economy is constantly thriving off of
and cannibalizing is youth attention and you know, creativity and innovation,
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which are all very mercurial aspects. So what you know
it At the end of the day, I think the
biggest thing to realize about how time is operating in
our realm is that linear time, as we have been
taught it is actually the illusion. You know, the traditional
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culture is understood cyclical time, sacred time, and they had
even more than one word for different ways of perceiving time.
And one of my favorite authors, ren iguent On, He's
written a book back in the early twentieth century called
The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times,
where he discusses how Quantity and quality are the two
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sort of polls that oscillate to create the cyclical turning
of the big wheel of time, the ages or the Yugas,
and that in our current age, the Cali Yuga or
the Iron Age, what has happened is people have flipped
or inverted their perception of the flow of quality and quantity. Basically,
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you know, in a nutshell because it's such a big argument,
really awesome book. He discusses how modern science believes that
quantity or matter. You can equate quantity with physical substance, right,
something measurable is where quality comes from. So like a
piece of a chemical or rock, that it's the it's
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the physical makeup of that thing that gives it the
quality that it has. And you know, at a sort
of first glance, especially the way we've been taught, that
seems to make sense. But the truth is, and the
ancients understood in previous ages, it's actually of physical essential
qualities that candense into physical forms or physical matter. So
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the quality itself existed before the physical stuff. I know
that may sound counterintuitive to people, maybe not, I don't know,
but essentially, in our you know, in our current system,
we've gotten to a point where, you know, part of
that quantity quality polarity also has to do with the
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difference between time and space, because time is the quantitative
element and space is the qualitative element. Like right here
is different than over there, you know what I mean,
but not like one second is one second is one
second innocence. And so as we're going further into the Caliyuga,
the spatial element is being eaten by the time, you know.
(30:57):
And that's back to Mercury. Mercury was a got of
like traveling and messengers, so he's like moving around, he's fatial,
and where the world is seeming to be shrunk by
our descent into this iron age right until the point
where eventually I think it will there'll be a big
(31:17):
flip over again or some kind of you know, one
person at a time awakening to the fact that the
linear time or the chronos time is fake. And I
want to bring this back to trading real quick. Like
there's this there's this word in Greek Cairos, which is
almost the exact same word is curios, which is the
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word used for the Lord in the Bible or Jesus.
It's also ancient Persian word for the son. Now, this
word chiros in ancient Greek it meant subjective time or
like opportune timing, right, So it's all about I like it.
(32:01):
The way I like to describe chiros as a philosophy
of time is it's the timing of synchronicity. It's the
right place at the right time sort of experience of
the flow of time. And it's also to do with
like when you are in the right place in the
right time, the speed the time seems to be moving
no longer feels like a burden or a problem, like
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you're not Time isn't dragging, but it's also like you
have plenty of it, you know what I mean. So
it's like this right feeling of time, and I think
we've all been there, Like you go to you know,
you go to your nine to five, and the way
time feels there as you're on the hamster wheel of
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repetitive linear time doing the same thing every day, the
time there feels somehow at the same same day, you're like,
I'm here forever and I never have enough time to
get it all done, you know what I mean. It's
like both absolutely, but then like what if you go
spend a week on vacation, or you like go to
a badass music festival for three days or something, and
(33:08):
like that three days will feel like subjectively to you,
like you are gone a month, so much will happen,
You'll feel like you had you know, if you really
reflect on this, the amount of time you have in
in your amount of time you feel like you have
in a day is subjective based on more or less
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like how aligned with your purpose you are and how
much you're growing as a soul. And if you are
in the if you're in a place of like growing
as a soul and doing what you're authentically called to
do in this life on a spiritual level, then your
experience of the flow of time is radically different than
when you're on the hamster wheel of doing something you
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hate that you feel like you have to do like
a slave. So that's Cairo's vers Kronos. Chronos is in
the hamster wheel, same thing. Every day. Time is linear
and you never have enough of it, but it's always
running and it's always running out. But also you feel
like it's dragging on and you're trapped in it. You know,
like nothing nothing changes. And then Cairos is right place
(34:14):
right time. Synchronicity, you're growing, you're flowing. Time is expansive,
you feel like you have plenty of it, but you
don't feel stuck or trapped in any one moment either.
It's just like complete polar opposites. Traders use chiros, like
the high level magician. Traders are not in the chronos lifestyle.
They're not you know, they're not clockeding in, they're not
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on a hamster wheel. They're not doing the same thing
every day. They are in the right place at the
right time, and make the right call trading wise aligned
with you know, what's going on in the world, in
the universe, and they boom, they hit that with synchronicity,
and then they extract wealth from this big system. So
(34:59):
like not just import for your own life and welfare,
to know that there's more than one kind of time,
and like, you know, at least knowing that, you can
start to try to navigate your like realize that there's
legitimately a good reason to get yourself out of the
nine to five, that that whole survival level threat that
I have to do this or I won't eat or
(35:21):
I won't pay my bills or whatever that that you
know in the Bible, Jesus is like you think you're
different than these birds that my father made sure that
they've got enough food to find every day easily. Like
to trust that you're supported by everything in this entire
realm was creative for you to thrive in, right, And
then that's getting into Cairo's time, where you're like, whether
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by gift and by miracle or by the sweat of
my own brow, like I will have enough, I will survive,
My family will make it. You know, I reject the
need to be a slave to this system out of
just the fear that I have too. And like that's
you getting into Cairos is like realizing, Okay, if I
(36:05):
drop out of this hamster wheel, I will drop. I
will flow into synchronicity. And I think every entrepreneur self
employed person has experienced this where it's like Okay, I
don't know I've got I've got just enough work to
stay busy, or I do have a good amount of work,
but like I don't know about next month. But as
(36:26):
soon as you take the opportunities that are that have
shown up to you, like the next one's come. But
if you stall and you don't stay in flow of
what you know you're here to do. New opportunities dry up, right,
But like if you keep, you do the ones that
are in front of you, do the quest that is
the life is offering you God's given you. The next
one shows up and it's a flow. They just chained
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together like that, and you don't get to know the
whole thing from start to finish. It's just like it's
a work of art. You know. You just do the
next brushstroke. You don't know exactly every step from here
to the complete of that masterpiece. But you stay, you
just keep doing things you know. Whereas the security need
of like the fear in the debt lifestyle is that well,
(37:12):
no matter what, I know that I can keep coming
back to this, to this coal mine and keep slowly dying,
but they'll give me the same paycheck consistently every time,
you know. So like I hope people are getting that,
because it's like you can get out of the Corono's
hamster wheel, but there's no guarantees. Man, it's a leap
of it's a leap of faith. You have to take
(37:32):
the leap of faith. But there's tons of there's a
million ways that you could set yourself up and start
on some path that is a leap of faith where
synchronicity can start to show up and support you or
what you If you don't want to call it synchronicity,
call it God's divine blessings, because it is. That's what
synchronicity is, right, you know, That's what I'm That's why
(37:52):
I want people to know about that. They don't have
to stay on that that rat race, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Have to have to amplify your man. This is if
for the terms of people out there listening that don't
and almost live. Check to check guys, this is like
getting that two hundred dollars loanly because you paid all
your bills and you need two hundred dollars. So you
go to the check in cash place where's some union
whatever it's called, and you get two hundred dollars more,
(38:19):
and they're going to take it out of your next check,
and so it keeps taking out of your next check,
so you keep going back to get two hundred dollars back.
It's the same freaking thing. It's the hamster wheel. You
keep thinking that you're secure because it could give you
two hundred dollars and I'm putting it on a scale
for people to understand around, not only in the suburbs,
for everybody to understand. I know, I don't know where
(38:42):
you come from, but I can tell you this. I
lived check your check. I've lived before that, and this
has happened before where I've been in a freaking podcast.
If we've connected so deeply and I'm just in a
conversation and We've got out so much information in the
past forty to fifty minutes, the time lapsed, I feel
like I just started and it was that brushstroke. Like
(39:02):
you said, you just keep doing it and doing it,
and then you're putting the pieces together because you tapped
into that other synchronicity, not only because it makes you
brings joy, but you're also being enjoyed to other people.
You are part of that synchronicity, that organic algorithm. It's beautiful, bro.
I have to admit, probably sometimes I've tapped to it,
tapped into it, and the listeners have too. Probably. It's amazing. Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, it's been forty five minutes already. I do like
threeth our podcasts often, so I feel like I just blinked.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
You just blinked, bro, So tapping into that. I was
I'm not want to get a little in the next
fifteen twenty minutes. I want to get more into intimate
with you. Have you tapped into that and don't And
I'm not talking about financially forget the money part, jump
into the emotional part. Have you gotten to the point
where you said, I've what's it called Cairo Time, Cairos
(39:58):
Cairos If that's the name of the episode, subjective time,
that's the name of the episode. By the way, you've
have you tapped into it while creating to say wow
that once she shut down the computer and all this electronics,
she were like still jiving.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, dude, I'm on Cairos right now and we're on computers.
Cairo's is okay. So for me, it was like the
point where because I spent years trying to do a
podcast as a side hustle, right, and long story short,
eventually I did find out about biofield tuning, which is
(40:37):
what I do for clients now, and started doing it
on myself using a way to tuning fork to work on.
When I learned about it from Eileen Day mccusick. She
has a book called Tuning the Human Biofield. I read
this book, I heard her on a couple of podcasts,
got one of the forks that she sells. Had this
left shoulder injury that would never go away, and like
(40:59):
I couldn't even raise my arm over my head. It
was such a bad It was like stuck right here.
And you know, I thought it was from rock climbing.
It wouldn't go away. I would just take time off,
take time off. So I got this fork, started using
it on the left shoulder, and it got better in days.
It was like almost instantly better. And the next thing
I know, like literally within a week or two, I'm
(41:23):
separated from my wife, and you know, then you know
it was over. And I didn't understand until after the
fact I could put two and two together. I was like,
wait a minute, My relationship with my ex wife was
based on my life's pattern up to that point of
perceiving whoever my romantic partner was as like a kind
(41:46):
of mean, narcissistic, vampiric person that I was a really
good guy for being a sensitive EmPATH and putting up
with and trying to help, right, So I was in
this dynamic of sensitive impath it demized by mean narcissist,
and I'm not saying that that's who she was. I
am not saying And actually what I will say is
(42:10):
that as the man, you are the one setting that
the bar for what the relationship is. And so you
know I was I was basically casting her in that
role and it was hurting her, I think. But then
you know, she was playing the part as our wives do.
They play the part, reassign them in a lot of senses,
(42:30):
so that relationship is over. That had everything to do
with the left shoulder being sensitive to taking on negative
energy from the other people in the world. That was
what my left shoulder was stuck on. Was this victim
impath narcissist cycle broke that. She's doing way better, She's
happier than ever. You know, we're front, we're still on
(42:52):
friends terms. Everything's great, and we both have families now,
like our relationship not fruitful, no kids now me and
her are different relationships. Both have beautiful daughters. So like
everybody wins by this. But what happened is I healed
the shoulder injury with frequency, and the external life situation
and mindset that was creating that life situation both were gone.
(43:16):
They both changed almost overnight, and I was like, wow, okay,
there's something major to this. It was body. It was
life situation, long lifetime pattern that I never noticed before,
but was there in every previous relationship. Right, So I
knew that there was definitely something to this toning stuff
(43:36):
and the anatomy of the biofield, like what stuff means,
what injuries and different parts of the body mean. So
I kept studying it and started practicing on friends here
and there. But I was also at that time still
working at a nine to five and trying to podcast
as a side hustle. Word you know, I've been doing
it for years, so I was like experienced. I was
(43:58):
pretty good, like my show had gotten good, but I
was still in this chronos experience of life and it
was not fun. It was not fun at all. But
then I met my current wife and she like came
to visit me for a couple of weeks and we
were like having so much fun. And then that couple
of weeks, I just didn't go to work. I just
didn't go to that other job. And I was working
(44:19):
for my parents, so I had the luxury to like
take time off if I really wanted, And I realized
this is that those couple of weeks felt so expansive,
like I felt like months of time. I was like
a different man after just being out of the circuit
of clocking in. And after that, I was like, you
know what, I'm not doing this anymore. So I quit,
(44:43):
I quit going. I finished that job up. I mean,
not like I put I did two weeks right, like
two weeks. Notice it was respectable about it. But then
I started offering to my audience we could do biofield
tuning sessions. You know, I started off at a really
low price point so I could build up experience, and
graciously lots of my audience took me up on that.
(45:04):
And you know, God's God's will and blessings and part
of that synchronicity that is the divine plan that supports
you when you get off Chronos and start following Chiros
the Lord, which is the same as the word literally
Chiros curios, almost the exact same word that the Greek
New Testament uses for Jesus Christ. So just think about that, like,
(45:26):
are you following Saturn or are you following Jesus Christ?
Essentially who is who is mythologically mercury. So it's like
mercury saturn, which is it mutable fixed anyway. What I
mean by like the synchronicity blessing about that is that
when I it was it's scary to take that leap
(45:47):
of faith, scary like am I gonna pay for my stuff?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
You know, especially when you're used to it, right, You're
used to that chronos type of lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, and that income, like that consistent income that comes
with it, right. And what happened though, is that the
people that came to me for tuning sessions exactly the
situations that I was ready and able to help with
and not over my head, are the ones that came
to me. So it was always mutually beneficial worthwhile I
(46:19):
built up experience and learned a lot. You know, there's
you can take courses to be certified in this. I
just figured it out myself. But I'm I'm good friends
with the woman who created this modality, so I feel
like I have like an unofficial honorary degree. You know,
he's been on my podcast a bunch of times, and
(46:39):
you know, I just kept it going and eventually was
able to be confident enough in how successful these sessions
were for people and the demand that you know I
matched the asking price to what I need as like
to support myself and now my family. And that's the
other secret to this leap of faith. As an artist,
(47:01):
a creative person, healer, entrepreneur or self employed whatever, it's
like you want to give it all away for free.
You feel bad charging people. You know, you think no
one will want it if you ask for too much,
but actually you're doing everybody a disservice if you under
charge yourself and them, especially in healing, because they like
(47:22):
them making an investment to the process is part of
what gives them a strong like a strong belief and
desire and commitment to make the change. And that's huge.
Like I can't tell you how many times somebody sends
me the two hundred fifty bucks and then we get
on the session a few weeks later because there's like
kind of a waiting list and they're like, yeah, I
wanted to work on quitting vaping, but after I signed
(47:46):
up for the session, I already quit. Like yeah, it's
because you made the decision that you're going to do
it right, and then you took a step, took an action,
you bought a session, you know, Like it's really I'm
not doing anything to anybody. I'm guiding them. There's something
they're doing for themselves.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And you're that push off the ledge.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Something like that. So my point is, whatever the process,
whatever your path is in Cairos, is to trust. It's
really important to trust that the wind you need to
fly or in your sales or whatever God's wind you know,
is going to show up when and how you need it.
And you're not always going to know. Sometimes you're gonna wonder,
(48:29):
but it's always going to show up, and that's up
to you. You have to trust that, Like do you
trust that and flow with it? Or do you do
you fear? Right? Do you fear and go back to
the sure thing as a slave? That's what keeps people
in the slavery mentality is it's a sure thing. You know,
you get three three hots and a cot in jail.
(48:51):
Some people go back to jail just for that. Right.
Either way, like this realm, this world we're in, you
can do either choice and it's up to you. I
hope that makes sense to people like you. Just there's
no point in the Cairo's life where it isn't a
little scary, you know, the point like it's just a
(49:11):
leap of faith. There's no secret to succeeding. It's a
leap of faith, and you will, but you will be
supported in it. And if you have to learn some
lessons to stay in that flow, you will, and you'll
be given the lessons at the speed and frequency that
you're ready for them. And especially if it's about helping
other people, the people that need what you can give
(49:34):
are the ones that are going to show up, and
you'll learn as you go, and then eventually you'll be
able to handle higher level problems. But the higher level
problems you're not ready for. They're not going to show
up before you're ready for them. And if maybe the
off one or two does you know, then you can
turn down, turn it down. But it never happened for
me that way. I never I was never over my head.
(49:55):
I was always exactly where like what I could handle
which up. And I know lots of other healers, creative
types that would say the same thing. So hopefully that
helps somebody out there, Like there's no secret leap of faith,
let's jump, let's go.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Make sure you take the time of day to check
out the Inniverse podcast with Chance Yo. You killed it,
Bro that was an amazing episode. Bro. You know, I
resonate with with it because sometimes I even consider themself
this is my side hustle, Bro, I do this, but
right now my wife is my wife and kids are
out for vacation. Then I wasn't able to go because
(50:33):
because of debt, because if I take this vacation, it
was going to add on to that debt where I
could produce more and then also invest two to three
episodes daily to the show. So I was like, you
know what, this is the opportunity. I need to grind
out what I need to do right now with the show.
But at the same time, when I go she's in
Alsavador because she's hamadoing. By the way, when I go
(50:53):
to Alsamador and I see all the green and breathe
all the air, time passes so beautifully and slow, and
I'm like eating the food and the sounds, and it's
just the grounding part. And when it gets hot and
it rains and it's humid, and I could take a
(51:14):
bite out of the air and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
It's electric. It's like it's all of it, all of
it is feeding and nursing you, the whole thing. And
then I'm away from and the grind all of it
is eating you.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yes, bro, So then I'm like, no, I'm not that.
I'm not complaining about the show. I loved it. If
it wasn't for this mic and tonight and all the episodes,
if it wasn't for podcasting, I probably wantn't be the
sober father that I am today. But vacation and just
grounding and living in the other side of town and
(51:47):
the other side of that time. Like you said, it's beautiful, bro,
I've only tasted it. I haven't stove head deep into
it yet.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
You're getting and I encourage it.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
I will. I will get there. I will get there.
You know what.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I'm wow why you have this mental framework for what
it is. I think that that's a huge guide. You know,
That's a scaffolding you can ascend on.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I really do believe it. I believe it with everything
I got. I believe it. It's gonna get there. And
if I keep grinding, you never know, I'll be able
to uplift others. That's the most important part of this show, yo.
I want you to let the people know where they
can find you.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
One more time. Yeah. Interverse podcast dot Com I'm on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes,
just launched a substack, which is pretty sweet. The podcast
sided things I do pretty kind of standard issue format.
Episodes are interview format one hour fore one hour for subscribers.
And I just started a brand new show called Inner Circle,
(52:48):
which is just for members only, and it's a solo podcast,
which I've never done before, so it's kind of like
getting me out of my comfort zone. But it's a
weekly episode where I can talk about things I'm learning
from filefield tuning insights, herbalism studies, other podcast research, you know,
(53:09):
because I realized there's so much that I'm taking in
and insights I'm gaining all the time that are not
that are either I'm trying to like force it into
an interview show that is not really about me and
maybe I'm taking too much time to do that, or
it's just getting lost and not transmitted. So now I'm
(53:30):
doing these solo casts where all of that good stuff
weekly is going to get straight to you members, and
also I'll take you know, questions and topics from members
as well they might want me to talk about. So yeah,
that's that's the new thing I'm really excited about. But
check out some of the newest episodes. I've been doing
pretty crazy stuff with AI lately, making original music, but
(53:54):
a lot of time into that original music for each
episode that's like based on the content of the episode,
particularly the one that kind of inspired our talk today
with Brandon Sterling about alchemizing time into wealth. The song
I made for that, I call it Alconomics. It is
so good, so good. Listen to that that will get
(54:16):
you going check it out.
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doing his rounds. He is the host of the Innerverse
Innverse podcast. If I'm if I'm butchering that up, I'm sorry.
Please let me know how it is. Guys, give a
warm welcome to Chance.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Chance? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I'm doing good man, I'm quite entertained by how fast
you talk. I I'll try to keep up because I
have plenty that I could talk about. So if I
can get on your level speed wise, we might be
don't turn this episode on times to speed, guys, you
will You'll be lost.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yo. It's twenty because I listened to all of my
episodes a double speed.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But you know what, bro You're amazing. You're doing your rounds,
You're hard working out there. You're kicking ass, dropping posts,
dropping content, putting in the work. I'm humbled and it's
a privilege to have you on the show today and
show my platform with you. Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is what it's about.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think networking and uplifting each other is one of
the best parts of this journey. And when we make
it to the top, because we will and I see
you there, Bro, we're gonna be able to freaking hug
each other, you know, and and rejoy is and share, share,
share some food and comments and labs with each other.
But today we're gonna be sharing the platform and some time.
Please let them know where they can find you, bro.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, man, my stuff said Introverse podcast dot com. That's
where you'll find links to all the channels where my
podcast is available. YouTube, Substack, Patreon, Spotify, iTunes, you know,
the whole thing. And while you're there, check out the
sound Healing page. I'm a biofield tuner and I work
with clients one on one to help them balance their
(03:40):
energy field. It's not like sitting in a yoga studio
with singing bowls, although that's great this is more like
psychic acupuncture, where we go in and tweak your belief
systems to help your mind and body be better flowing
and connected. And it's it's really amazing. I've done lots
of interviews about that, so we don't have to talk
about that at link.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
No no, no, no, no, no, tell me. I'm you know,
you know I always say is life isn't about finding yourself,
but about creating yourself. And like, I want to get
this point of view.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What is it that you do?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You said, psychedelic acupuncture. That's it's like.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Psychic Yeah, like psychic acupuncture. Okay, So in a nutshell,
you have an energy field that your body sits right
in the middle of. And when you really get to
the true core essence of what this reality is that
it's a mental reality. That the physical is all stuff
in your mind. So it is psychedelic in that sense.
It's all in your head. Your body is in your mind.
(04:34):
Your mind is not in your body. There's nowhere in
your body where your mind lives. Right. So this field,
you can call it electromagnetic, you can call it plasma, bioplasma,
however you want to interpret this. It's measurable we have
this energy field, and within that is information, memory, emotion, beliefs. Basically,
those things are configured in such a way that where
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they're limiting or repressed, it reduces the fullness of flow
of that energy field. And there's an anatomy to your
energy field. Where energy is at in that field left, right, up, down, forward,
back has specific information that's consistent from person to person.
Like people's right hip usually carries the you know, if
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there's offset energy there that's not in balance. It carries
the vibe of I have to work myself to exhaustion
or depletion, or I'm not good enough, that kind of
like guilt driven overdoing it, or the you know, the
left shoulder has to do with taking on other people's
negative energy or having stuck personal sadness and grief. And
(05:39):
this is consistent for everybody. And when I'm using my
tuning forks, waving them around in my living room, we're
on a zoom call, I can find where the stuck
energy is at, where it's at in relationship to the body,
Like distance away tells me how old you were when
the energy got stuck there, or the experience that caused it,
or the belief was formed. So in a nutshell, I
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might be able to just whip out a tuning forks,
swing it through the space around your body that I'm using.
You know, I'm putting you on my table with my
imagination holographically, and I'll say, hey, how about twenty two
years old did you get in a car wreck and
lose a lot of blood? And I would be able
to get that information out of your energy field, you know,
(06:23):
sometimes more specific, sometimes more general, but really then you're
going to remember something from that age, from that time,
from that type of experience, and then we're going to
dig deeper and find out where the pattern is that
and how that pattern is replaying in your life still,
so that we can eliminate it and get you back
into a feeling of a full flow, full trust with
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life and with yourself and the highest potential that you
can have. So clients always report feeling lighter after they've
finished discussion. Usually they have more personal vitality available, and
in the case of chronic health issues or recent surprise
health problems that they haven't been able to figure out conventionally,
(07:04):
we often can figure out what the mental aspect of
that is and resolve it right away and the results.
No guarantees, but anything's possible. It's always good when you
get a session. Sometimes we might need to take more
than one swing at it, work around the issue for
more than one session. But you know, all kinds of
stuff happens. People. You're talking about your parasite cleanse. I've
(07:26):
seen many clients have their entire gut biome shift after
a tuning session. Get out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
They don't even take they don't even take probiotics or anything.
And after the session they have different food cravings and
a versions on a healthier level. Or they can digest
stuff that used to give them serious problems.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Wow, make sure you check them out.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, I had a is it almost I'm confusing
the two. I'm sure I am confusing the two. Reiki
healing it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, it is not the same, but it is in
the same ballpark.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, But like I said, when I liken it to
psychic acupuncture, it's because things like reiki or sound bath,
some singing bowls, things like that, you're kind of just
getting washed over with frequencies or positive energy and that
has a good effect on you for sure. And there's
nothing wrong with it. But with biofield tuning, we're like
pinpointing where the stuck thing is in your mind or
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in your emotional body, going straight to it exactly when
it happened, how it got there, and then we're giving
you a free will choice to change that thing that
was like subconsciously affecting you. So it's way more like
surgical and precise. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I love it. I've mentioned this on a show before.
The ancient like ancient Egyptians, you know those when they
were entombed, they were holding onto those tools. They weren't
just tools, bro, they were tuning fork. They were used
to vibate frequency and make sure they would transcending into
the next level. Right, And I would say, almost almost
(09:01):
in tune with the biometrics. What do you use to
open up your phone to open up apps?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I like these these are the same as like the
pharaoh rods you're talking about. I got a copper for
the right and zinc for the left, and you can
just hold them in each hand or I like to
just keep him in the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'm holding it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's the laboradite there, Bro. That's nice.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, Bro, I was gifted. I was gifted some stones
like the one You're behind your being a long time
ago by Ricky Healer and then my my buddy, uh
he is he does, I'll go, what's this called? He
gave me this, this pyramid for creativity.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He is organized, it's organized.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Everybody else is an organized and his name is organ
because he loves an organ in a night.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I've tuned to that guy.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Really, he's amazing. Bro. He's a cool dude. Bro, young
young cat you know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, inspiring for young'ins to be, you know, on
the level like that.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
When I'm doing tuning, is I have like a table
set up with all the crystals, and I build the
crystals into the shape of a body, using the appropriate
crystals for the different energy centers and parts of the body,
and then I work on that like it was them,
the person I'm talking to, and all the forks react
as if they were in the room. So it works. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Frequency is a radio tune and it's also a weapon,
if you guys, if you guys means use it. It's
very important. Thank you again for suing all that stuff.
And then kudos to you and Matt Shadows to organize
Isaac everybody around the job practicing those arts and and
and liberating people and making sure that people live a
little bit. I'm more uplifted again, like guy said in
the beginning of the show, and lighter and finding themselves
(10:38):
and being creators instead of spectators. Yo, today you have
a topic. Let me pull on my notes. How rude
of me you said, I've seen on your one one
of your recent posts, you had an episode regarding financial
ritual magic. Whoa good stuff man? Talk to me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I had, ah So a buddy of mine named Brandon Sterling.
He is like a turncoat financial industry trading insider. You know,
he's done that his whole adult life. He's a pretty
young guy actually, but successful at it. He knows the
you know, the secrets, and he wanted He's just recently
launched a course to teach people how to start a
(11:18):
business trading, and I was like, okay, well, if we're
going to bring this onto my show, I needed to
take it to a cult level because he was already
likening his process to a form of alchemy, like alchemizing
time into wealth. And I was like, dude, you don't
even know how correct you are. About how that's alchemy,
(11:39):
and you know, he's not as well versed in those
esoteric subjects, although he's a great dude and very knowledgeable
about a lot of stuff. So he gives me his
presentation and then I cross referenced it against one of
my favorite books, Money Grows on the Tree of Knowledge
by Tracy Twyman. Yeah, okay, yeah, and I was like,
(12:01):
I was mind blown because I didn't know much about trading.
But once I started to get the handle on like
the trading vernacular and the process, the different parts of it,
I was like, this is this is alchemy af So yeah,
and I still have notes about that. I've got actually
bigger notes than what I was able to share in
(12:21):
my talk with him. But you know, money is literally
a encapsulated ritual sacrifice. It's a symbolic ritual sacrifice, and
it always has been. You know, lead into gold in
alchemy is the same as time turning time into capital
in the modern sense, lead in time being both Saturnian.
(12:42):
We can go deeper on any of these subjects. I'm
kind of giving you the top down overview, you know,
and then it has lots to do with time actually
as an engine of extraction of life force and our
misunderstanding of what time is, that there's more than one
kind of time is what separates the people who are
having their life for us extracted by this economy from
(13:03):
the people who are profiting and like extracting the gold
from the people. No, we could talk about you know,
ancient temple coins, uh, the specifics of trading like derivatives type,
contracts hedging, you know how that relates to atonement magic.
We could talk about the spellcraft of money, velocity and
how the gates are opened or closed on the actual
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speed of how the economy is flowing. Ah, you know,
there's there's so much to it.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'll let's let's let's filter this. That will be the
bottleneck on this one. You said, first of all, ancient coins.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Ancient coins, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I to get into that. And then the specific the
specifics on the trading, how woulds it? How would doesn't
make it magical? I understand. And the reason I'm saying
this is because you're probably gonna pick pick up after
this and then just lead on the reason I'm saying
this is because I know for like they close the market,
they open the market in specific days and when the
moon is full. They have bigger leads. I want to
(14:07):
say to move money, move your time and specific people,
and control your people. This is why the bank opens
at three am in the morning PST. Where I'm at,
and I wake up at three every day to go
to work. I open, I go, I open my shop.
So I walk it out four in the morning. I'm
already there by the time everybody's waking up, I'm awake
with the East coast. The point is all of the
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all of this is getting its transcendence. They rob you
from your time that you don't even know how to.
You can't even collect rainwater legally in California because it's
a freaking felony, you know. They robbing you from you
from from we They're telling you when you have to
eat breakfast, when you have to go take a dump,
when you have to check in, clock in, collect charge,
and then pay your rent. So there, it's it's everything
(14:49):
is a collective of collecting your time, if it makes
any sense. But the transaction of energy, what it takes
to manufacture money so that you can live and surviving
that the same hamster wheel is also part of the magic.
This is just a broad point of view of mind.
Get me, but what is that, bro, The coins of
the ancients. So this is ancient stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Huh yeah, none of this is new. So I'll just
start going through some stuff and you stop me. If
you had it, bro, if.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You choose ques randomize that we used to have this
segment of the show called the Randomizing Machine. Just hit
the randomizing machine. Just hashtag looking up everybody, don't take
my word for it, and make sure you check him
out and then and then take five times five seconds
of your day to go to the search bar and
stop searching ass on TikTok and just go search stuff.
That's going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Okay. Well, first of all, people are probably not aware
of what the origin of money actually is.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
They think maybe people invented money so that they could
trade more easily as a store of value. But actually
that's not where money started. That's what money became, but
it was something else. It was originally ritual offerings are
where coins came from them. So in the same sense,
and we'll get there, every dollar is actually a receipt
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of a sacrifice and that's so that's not changed. But
if you go back to the ancient world, the ancient
priesthood which kind of ran everything. Coins were minted in
the temple, and then they were given as a receipt
for whenever you made an offering of like you gave
them some wheat or you gave them a goat to sacrifice.
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The word shekel actually meant a bushel of wheat. So
temples were met were handed out these coins, and then
you would trade that coin for some kind of temple service,
like you wanted divination, or you wanted them to pray
for the gods to not destroy your farm with a
flood or something like that. And so even in the
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same sense, like just the way that we can you know,
the death right, death and debt, people equate those things.
Or like the word mortgage is a word gauge is
a death pledge. The word finance comes from the old
French word finair, which means to end or to the
settling of a debt. So you know, there's definitely all
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of this idea of debt and sin baked in to
our financial system because it came from the priesthood originally.
Even like bonds, right, people trade stocks and bonds. Those
are words for slaves, right, Like you're in the stocks,
like they put you in the stocks if you were
(17:34):
a bad slave and they whip you like there's no
a bond was a tenant farm or a surf in
the old feudal system. Obviously we know bonds are still
implying being tied or tied down, right, So now we
sacrifice our time instead of goats to get these coins,
but it's still kind of a it's still a sacrifice.
(17:56):
And the modern dollars, every dollar's created with debt attached
to it, right, Like when the fiat system was created,
it was completely different than having a note that was
exchangeable for gold like a piece of paper. Now there's
every dollar that's created by the Fed. This was like
the first thing that woke me up to conspiracy. So
(18:18):
maybe that's why back in college, maybe this is why
it's a topic that is still dear to me. But
when I found out that every dollar created was loaned
to the US government with interest, and that there was
always more debt because of this interest based loan in
the economy than there was dollars to pay the debt,
(18:38):
I was like, what wait. So every time they get
on the news and they're like, the national debt is
skyrocketing the national deficit. It's going through the roof. We
got to get that debt down. Yeah, but you can't.
The money that's being used to pay the debt comes
with interest attached to it. There's musical chairs. There's never
as much money in the system as there is money
(18:59):
owed to the system. So it's a it's a hilarious joke.
And anyway, these coins, you know, back in the ancient world,
there was never a coin that was struck without a
god or God's on it. And the modern coins still
have our national deities that represent our mythology of our countries, right,
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presidents that are basically godlike in the in the storyline
of the origin in the nation, possibly even mostly mythological
stories about our founding fathers. To be honest, for all
we know, but as we okay, so where do you
want me to go from here? Because I could go
(19:40):
in a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Let your gut tell you where, because at the end
of the day, this message is huge and we're probably
not going to get to all of them.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, Okay, Okay, So modern finance is
literally perfect alchemy because instead of that old concept, which
I think was probably always an allegory to begin with
of turning to gold. Now they're turning time into value
or imagination into value. Money in our system is basically
(20:09):
x nihilo like it's value that's created out of literally
thin air, out of imagination, or at least that's what
it looks like. But the truth is the value is
coming from your time people in the system. So even
though at a first glance it's like they're just putting numbers,
like whenever they loan somebody you pay with a credit card,
numbers are just created on a digital system. They come
(20:30):
out of nowhere, and so it's almost like value is
being invented out of nothing. But it's not out of nothing.
It's your This capital is the crystallization of your labor
that is measured over time, and in alchemy, time is
symbolized by the lead, which is Saturn. Who is you know,
big Daddy Saturn, Papa Satan. However you want people have
(20:51):
a idea about that, you know, not that Saturn is
itself an evil force. It's part of just what brings
structure as an archetype into our realm, and that's important,
we need that. But yeah, it's uh, you know this
this is the black Cube cult for sure, Like they
really love their saturn because they they're getting so much
out of everyone else's time. So in trading, for example,
(21:13):
like modern financial trading, they're turning this lead into gold
or profit and basically through ritual conversion of uncertainty into value,
which they do by staying directionally agnostic to the market.
Meaning just like you know, just like the central pillar
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of every great teaching of being in the middle path
that the alchemical gold is, like, you know, the the
blending of opposites. Traders that are like wise, they're not
bullish or bearish, they're not stuck on polarity, but they
are making money on Marcus going up and down. They're engineering,
(21:54):
you know, in some levels, they're engineering certain black Swan
events to be ready for stuff to go upward before yeah, yeah,
so many times. So in traditional societies of the ancient world,
value of objects was rooted in the essence of those objects,
like the craftsmen that made it, you know, the craftsman's stamp.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That was on it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
But now where value is being derived and like this
cali yuga is about units hours, you know, digits on
a screen. It's like it's a very quantitative instead of
qualitative system. And when we talk about the money being
like an alchemical sacrifice, it's because when we talk about debt,
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we're talking about something we're selling out from the future
in a sense like I'll pay you later. My wife
likes to talk about how like if you leave a
chore undone, then you know you're basically selling out future yourself,
like you want to leave that down. Yeah, it's so true,
(23:06):
so true. So if every dollar in our system is
coming from a debt based place, and people are constantly
taking out further debt loans, credit, et cetera, and literally
every time you use your credit card, you're adding inflation
to the system because that money is not being it's
being created out of nothing. Then we're selling out our
(23:28):
not just our future self, but also like our children,
because they're going to have to suffer the consequences in
the future. When you look at charts of like the
S and P five hundred or how many like how
much stock in the s and P five hundred someone's
wages could buy, like on an hour, like a year's wages,
how much stock they could buy with that or whatever?
(23:49):
How do you want to metric that the chart from
like the sixties to now how much you could buy
is like, oo, just plummeting. And I think we all
probably noticed this, especially your age, my age, the kind
of the kind of things our parents could do with
like a single income family.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Word, I remember, if I may interject, my my, I
remember when when my mom my parents used to put
money away. If they have ten thousand dollars in the bank,
ten thousand dollars in the bank today does not buy
you the same thing that we had before. And they're
still collecting interest on that, and they're still lending your
same money to everybody else. It's really interesting how it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
They're robbing you not only from your time taxed and
then putting in you to your savings because one ten
thousand dollars, what ten thousand dollars could have bought you
in the nineteen seventies cannot buy you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's the same power, it doesn't have the same power.
It's actually chopped off almost by forty percent.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah it's crazy, bro, Yeah, well what not? But also yeah, yeah,
it's just it's just ridiculous, you know, Like it's not
just the inflation, but also it's how disproportionate the amount
that wages have not gone up versus how much money
has inflated. So the average person's you know, what chunk
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of someone's yearly income buying a car would be or
buying a house would be now versus the eighties or
seventies or sixties. It's not even close. It's not even close.
And like you brought up a men's mental health Awareness
month or whatever, and the main thing that causes men
to commit suicide is when they realize that they've lost
(25:33):
their equity, like that what they've worked for for a
long time fizzles out, or they lose all of their
progress in some sense. That is the number one cause
for men to commit suicide is lost equity. And this
system is constantly just robbing people's equity out from under them.
And that's why I thought, you know, it's actually, even
(25:56):
though it's not the sweetest topic in terms of of
fun to discuss, to have this guy on to talk
about trading and teaching people to do it, I thought, well,
this could save someone's life, you know, because when you
think about it, because trading is basically neo in the matrix.
(26:17):
If you know how to do it, you're no longer
the one who's getting their time stolen essentially, or their
you know, their life force extracted as they give up
their time. You're reading the matrix code. You know, you're
creating your own wealth out of the system. And that's
the thing. It's like, it's a system, so it is
itself a moral it's just a question of it's just
(26:37):
a knowledge differential. That's all the occult ever was. That's
all magic ever was, in a sense, is just understanding
of universal psychology. And when you realize it makes it
more interesting when you realize that even markets, things that
seem so artificial, are themselves an expression of universal law,
the human or collective universal psyche, which operates on the
(27:02):
principles of alchemy, just like every other creative process in nature.
Once you see that, it might make it a little
more interesting to get involved. Actually, and that framework, if
you've learned it elsewhere, or you can take it elsewhere.
It's like it applies across the board, but with Okay,
so when I'm talking about youth being sacrificed, you know,
(27:24):
in a lot of old ol chemical illustrations they'll show
Saturn and Hermes or mercury and Saturn is cutting off
Hermi's legs at the knees, and like, you know what
is that? What is that about? Well, it's about how
in an alchemical process, the mercury element is sacrificed for
the alchemical you know, completion of the work. In the
(27:48):
same sense, our current system is all about Chronos or
Saturn devouring his offspring to stay on top emvowering mercury. There, Like,
what is what the economy is constantly thriving off of
and cannibalizing is youth attention and you know, creativity and innovation,
(28:12):
which are all very mercurial aspects. So what you know
it At the end of the day, I think the
biggest thing to realize about how time is operating in
our realm is that linear time, as we have been
taught it is actually the illusion. You know, the traditional
(28:34):
culture is understood cyclical time, sacred time, and they had
even more than one word for different ways of perceiving time.
And one of my favorite authors, ren iguent On, He's
written a book back in the early twentieth century called
The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times,
where he discusses how Quantity and quality are the two
(28:56):
sort of polls that oscillate to create the cyclical turning
of the big wheel of time, the ages or the Yugas,
and that in our current age, the Cali Yuga or
the Iron Age, what has happened is people have flipped
or inverted their perception of the flow of quality and quantity. Basically,
(29:19):
you know, in a nutshell because it's such a big argument,
really awesome book. He discusses how modern science believes that
quantity or matter. You can equate quantity with physical substance, right,
something measurable is where quality comes from. So like a
piece of a chemical or rock, that it's the it's
(29:43):
the physical makeup of that thing that gives it the
quality that it has. And you know, at a sort
of first glance, especially the way we've been taught, that
seems to make sense. But the truth is, and the
ancients understood in previous ages, it's actually of physical essential
qualities that candense into physical forms or physical matter. So
(30:08):
the quality itself existed before the physical stuff. I know
that may sound counterintuitive to people, maybe not, I don't know,
but essentially, in our you know, in our current system,
we've gotten to a point where, you know, part of
that quantity quality polarity also has to do with the
(30:33):
difference between time and space, because time is the quantitative
element and space is the qualitative element. Like right here
is different than over there, you know what I mean,
but not like one second is one second is one
second innocence. And so as we're going further into the Caliyuga,
the spatial element is being eaten by the time, you know.
(30:57):
And that's back to Mercury. Mercury was a got of
like traveling and messengers, so he's like moving around, he's fatial,
and where the world is seeming to be shrunk by
our descent into this iron age right until the point
where eventually I think it will there'll be a big
(31:17):
flip over again or some kind of you know, one
person at a time awakening to the fact that the
linear time or the chronos time is fake. And I
want to bring this back to trading real quick. Like
there's this there's this word in Greek Cairos, which is
almost the exact same word is curios, which is the
(31:40):
word used for the Lord in the Bible or Jesus.
It's also ancient Persian word for the son. Now, this
word chiros in ancient Greek it meant subjective time or
like opportune timing, right, So it's all about I like it.
(32:01):
The way I like to describe chiros as a philosophy
of time is it's the timing of synchronicity. It's the
right place at the right time sort of experience of
the flow of time. And it's also to do with
like when you are in the right place in the
right time, the speed the time seems to be moving
no longer feels like a burden or a problem, like
(32:24):
you're not Time isn't dragging, but it's also like you
have plenty of it, you know what I mean. So
it's like this right feeling of time, and I think
we've all been there, Like you go to you know,
you go to your nine to five, and the way
time feels there as you're on the hamster wheel of
(32:45):
repetitive linear time doing the same thing every day, the
time there feels somehow at the same same day, you're like,
I'm here forever and I never have enough time to
get it all done, you know what I mean. It's
like both absolutely, but then like what if you go
spend a week on vacation, or you like go to
a badass music festival for three days or something, and
(33:08):
like that three days will feel like subjectively to you,
like you are gone a month, so much will happen,
You'll feel like you had you know, if you really
reflect on this, the amount of time you have in
in your amount of time you feel like you have
in a day is subjective based on more or less
(33:30):
like how aligned with your purpose you are and how
much you're growing as a soul. And if you are
in the if you're in a place of like growing
as a soul and doing what you're authentically called to
do in this life on a spiritual level, then your
experience of the flow of time is radically different than
when you're on the hamster wheel of doing something you
(33:51):
hate that you feel like you have to do like
a slave. So that's Cairo's vers Kronos. Chronos is in
the hamster wheel, same thing. Every day. Time is linear
and you never have enough of it, but it's always
running and it's always running out. But also you feel
like it's dragging on and you're trapped in it. You know,
like nothing nothing changes. And then Cairos is right place
(34:14):
right time. Synchronicity, you're growing, you're flowing. Time is expansive,
you feel like you have plenty of it, but you
don't feel stuck or trapped in any one moment either.
It's just like complete polar opposites. Traders use chiros, like
the high level magician. Traders are not in the chronos lifestyle.
They're not you know, they're not clockeding in, they're not
(34:37):
on a hamster wheel. They're not doing the same thing
every day. They are in the right place at the
right time, and make the right call trading wise aligned
with you know, what's going on in the world, in
the universe, and they boom, they hit that with synchronicity,
and then they extract wealth from this big system. So
(34:59):
like not just import for your own life and welfare,
to know that there's more than one kind of time,
and like, you know, at least knowing that, you can
start to try to navigate your like realize that there's
legitimately a good reason to get yourself out of the
nine to five, that that whole survival level threat that
I have to do this or I won't eat or
(35:21):
I won't pay my bills or whatever that that you
know in the Bible, Jesus is like you think you're
different than these birds that my father made sure that
they've got enough food to find every day easily. Like
to trust that you're supported by everything in this entire
realm was creative for you to thrive in, right, And
then that's getting into Cairo's time, where you're like, whether
(35:44):
by gift and by miracle or by the sweat of
my own brow, like I will have enough, I will survive,
My family will make it. You know, I reject the
need to be a slave to this system out of
just the fear that I have too. And like that's
you getting into Cairos is like realizing, Okay, if I
(36:05):
drop out of this hamster wheel, I will drop. I
will flow into synchronicity. And I think every entrepreneur self
employed person has experienced this where it's like Okay, I
don't know I've got I've got just enough work to
stay busy, or I do have a good amount of work,
but like I don't know about next month. But as
(36:26):
soon as you take the opportunities that are that have
shown up to you, like the next one's come. But
if you stall and you don't stay in flow of
what you know you're here to do. New opportunities dry up, right,
But like if you keep, you do the ones that
are in front of you, do the quest that is
the life is offering you God's given you. The next
one shows up and it's a flow. They just chained
(36:48):
together like that, and you don't get to know the
whole thing from start to finish. It's just like it's
a work of art. You know. You just do the
next brushstroke. You don't know exactly every step from here
to the complete of that masterpiece. But you stay, you
just keep doing things you know. Whereas the security need
of like the fear in the debt lifestyle is that well,
(37:12):
no matter what, I know that I can keep coming
back to this, to this coal mine and keep slowly dying,
but they'll give me the same paycheck consistently every time,
you know. So like I hope people are getting that,
because it's like you can get out of the Corono's
hamster wheel, but there's no guarantees. Man, it's a leap
of it's a leap of faith. You have to take
(37:32):
the leap of faith. But there's tons of there's a
million ways that you could set yourself up and start
on some path that is a leap of faith where
synchronicity can start to show up and support you or
what you If you don't want to call it synchronicity,
call it God's divine blessings, because it is. That's what
synchronicity is, right, you know, That's what I'm That's why
(37:52):
I want people to know about that. They don't have
to stay on that that rat race, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Have to have to amplify your man. This is if
for the terms of people out there listening that don't
and almost live. Check to check guys, this is like
getting that two hundred dollars loanly because you paid all
your bills and you need two hundred dollars. So you
go to the check in cash place where's some union
whatever it's called, and you get two hundred dollars more,
(38:19):
and they're going to take it out of your next check,
and so it keeps taking out of your next check,
so you keep going back to get two hundred dollars back.
It's the same freaking thing. It's the hamster wheel. You
keep thinking that you're secure because it could give you
two hundred dollars and I'm putting it on a scale
for people to understand around, not only in the suburbs,
for everybody to understand. I know, I don't know where
(38:42):
you come from, but I can tell you this. I
lived check your check. I've lived before that, and this
has happened before where I've been in a freaking podcast.
If we've connected so deeply and I'm just in a
conversation and We've got out so much information in the
past forty to fifty minutes, the time lapsed, I feel
like I just started and it was that brushstroke. Like
(39:02):
you said, you just keep doing it and doing it,
and then you're putting the pieces together because you tapped
into that other synchronicity, not only because it makes you
brings joy, but you're also being enjoyed to other people.
You are part of that synchronicity, that organic algorithm. It's beautiful, bro.
I have to admit, probably sometimes I've tapped to it,
tapped into it, and the listeners have too. Probably. It's amazing. Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, it's been forty five minutes already. I do like
threeth our podcasts often, so I feel like I just blinked.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
You just blinked, bro, So tapping into that. I was
I'm not want to get a little in the next
fifteen twenty minutes. I want to get more into intimate
with you. Have you tapped into that and don't And
I'm not talking about financially forget the money part, jump
into the emotional part. Have you gotten to the point
where you said, I've what's it called Cairo Time, Cairos
(39:58):
Cairos If that's the name of the episode, subjective time,
that's the name of the episode. By the way, you've
have you tapped into it while creating to say wow
that once she shut down the computer and all this electronics,
she were like still jiving.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, dude, I'm on Cairos right now and we're on computers.
Cairo's is okay. So for me, it was like the
point where because I spent years trying to do a
podcast as a side hustle, right, and long story short,
eventually I did find out about biofield tuning, which is
(40:37):
what I do for clients now, and started doing it
on myself using a way to tuning fork to work on.
When I learned about it from Eileen Day mccusick. She
has a book called Tuning the Human Biofield. I read
this book, I heard her on a couple of podcasts,
got one of the forks that she sells. Had this
left shoulder injury that would never go away, and like
(40:59):
I couldn't even raise my arm over my head. It
was such a bad It was like stuck right here.
And you know, I thought it was from rock climbing.
It wouldn't go away. I would just take time off,
take time off. So I got this fork, started using
it on the left shoulder, and it got better in days.
It was like almost instantly better. And the next thing
I know, like literally within a week or two, I'm
(41:23):
separated from my wife, and you know, then you know
it was over. And I didn't understand until after the
fact I could put two and two together. I was like,
wait a minute, My relationship with my ex wife was
based on my life's pattern up to that point of
perceiving whoever my romantic partner was as like a kind
(41:46):
of mean, narcissistic, vampiric person that I was a really
good guy for being a sensitive EmPATH and putting up
with and trying to help, right, So I was in
this dynamic of sensitive impath it demized by mean narcissist,
and I'm not saying that that's who she was. I
am not saying And actually what I will say is
(42:10):
that as the man, you are the one setting that
the bar for what the relationship is. And so you
know I was I was basically casting her in that
role and it was hurting her, I think. But then
you know, she was playing the part as our wives do.
They play the part, reassign them in a lot of senses,
(42:30):
so that relationship is over. That had everything to do
with the left shoulder being sensitive to taking on negative
energy from the other people in the world. That was
what my left shoulder was stuck on. Was this victim
impath narcissist cycle broke that. She's doing way better, She's
happier than ever. You know, we're front, we're still on
(42:52):
friends terms. Everything's great, and we both have families now,
like our relationship not fruitful, no kids now me and
her are different relationships. Both have beautiful daughters. So like
everybody wins by this. But what happened is I healed
the shoulder injury with frequency, and the external life situation
and mindset that was creating that life situation both were gone.
(43:16):
They both changed almost overnight, and I was like, wow, okay,
there's something major to this. It was body. It was
life situation, long lifetime pattern that I never noticed before,
but was there in every previous relationship. Right, So I
knew that there was definitely something to this toning stuff
(43:36):
and the anatomy of the biofield, like what stuff means,
what injuries and different parts of the body mean. So
I kept studying it and started practicing on friends here
and there. But I was also at that time still
working at a nine to five and trying to podcast
as a side hustle. Word you know, I've been doing
it for years, so I was like experienced. I was
(43:58):
pretty good, like my show had gotten good, but I
was still in this chronos experience of life and it
was not fun. It was not fun at all. But
then I met my current wife and she like came
to visit me for a couple of weeks and we
were like having so much fun. And then that couple
of weeks, I just didn't go to work. I just
didn't go to that other job. And I was working
(44:19):
for my parents, so I had the luxury to like
take time off if I really wanted, And I realized
this is that those couple of weeks felt so expansive,
like I felt like months of time. I was like
a different man after just being out of the circuit
of clocking in. And after that, I was like, you
know what, I'm not doing this anymore. So I quit,
(44:43):
I quit going. I finished that job up. I mean,
not like I put I did two weeks right, like
two weeks. Notice it was respectable about it. But then
I started offering to my audience we could do biofield
tuning sessions. You know, I started off at a really
low price point so I could build up experience, and
graciously lots of my audience took me up on that.
(45:04):
And you know, God's God's will and blessings and part
of that synchronicity that is the divine plan that supports
you when you get off Chronos and start following Chiros
the Lord, which is the same as the word literally
Chiros curios, almost the exact same word that the Greek
New Testament uses for Jesus Christ. So just think about that, like,
(45:26):
are you following Saturn or are you following Jesus Christ?
Essentially who is who is mythologically mercury. So it's like
mercury saturn, which is it mutable fixed anyway. What I
mean by like the synchronicity blessing about that is that
when I it was it's scary to take that leap
(45:47):
of faith, scary like am I gonna pay for my stuff?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
You know, especially when you're used to it, right, You're
used to that chronos type of lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, and that income, like that consistent income that comes
with it, right. And what happened though, is that the
people that came to me for tuning sessions exactly the
situations that I was ready and able to help with
and not over my head, are the ones that came
to me. So it was always mutually beneficial worthwhile I
(46:19):
built up experience and learned a lot. You know, there's
you can take courses to be certified in this. I
just figured it out myself. But I'm I'm good friends
with the woman who created this modality, so I feel
like I have like an unofficial honorary degree. You know,
he's been on my podcast a bunch of times, and
(46:39):
you know, I just kept it going and eventually was
able to be confident enough in how successful these sessions
were for people and the demand that you know I
matched the asking price to what I need as like
to support myself and now my family. And that's the
other secret to this leap of faith. As an artist,
(47:01):
a creative person, healer, entrepreneur or self employed whatever, it's
like you want to give it all away for free.
You feel bad charging people. You know, you think no
one will want it if you ask for too much,
but actually you're doing everybody a disservice if you under
charge yourself and them, especially in healing, because they like
(47:22):
them making an investment to the process is part of
what gives them a strong like a strong belief and
desire and commitment to make the change. And that's huge.
Like I can't tell you how many times somebody sends
me the two hundred fifty bucks and then we get
on the session a few weeks later because there's like
kind of a waiting list and they're like, yeah, I
wanted to work on quitting vaping, but after I signed
(47:46):
up for the session, I already quit. Like yeah, it's
because you made the decision that you're going to do
it right, and then you took a step, took an action,
you bought a session, you know, Like it's really I'm
not doing anything to anybody. I'm guiding them. There's something
they're doing for themselves.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And you're that push off the ledge.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Something like that. So my point is, whatever the process,
whatever your path is in Cairos, is to trust. It's
really important to trust that the wind you need to
fly or in your sales or whatever God's wind you know,
is going to show up when and how you need it.
And you're not always going to know. Sometimes you're gonna wonder,
(48:29):
but it's always going to show up, and that's up
to you. You have to trust that, Like do you
trust that and flow with it? Or do you do
you fear? Right? Do you fear and go back to
the sure thing as a slave? That's what keeps people
in the slavery mentality is it's a sure thing. You know,
you get three three hots and a cot in jail.
(48:51):
Some people go back to jail just for that. Right.
Either way, like this realm, this world we're in, you
can do either choice and it's up to you. I
hope that makes sense to people like you. Just there's
no point in the Cairo's life where it isn't a
little scary, you know, the point like it's just a
(49:11):
leap of faith. There's no secret to succeeding. It's a
leap of faith, and you will, but you will be
supported in it. And if you have to learn some
lessons to stay in that flow, you will, and you'll
be given the lessons at the speed and frequency that
you're ready for them. And especially if it's about helping
other people, the people that need what you can give
(49:34):
are the ones that are going to show up, and
you'll learn as you go, and then eventually you'll be
able to handle higher level problems. But the higher level
problems you're not ready for. They're not going to show
up before you're ready for them. And if maybe the
off one or two does you know, then you can
turn down, turn it down. But it never happened for
me that way. I never I was never over my head.
(49:55):
I was always exactly where like what I could handle
which up. And I know lots of other healers, creative
types that would say the same thing. So hopefully that
helps somebody out there, Like there's no secret leap of faith,
let's jump, let's go.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Make sure you take the time of day to check
out the Inniverse podcast with Chance Yo. You killed it,
Bro that was an amazing episode. Bro. You know, I
resonate with with it because sometimes I even consider themself
this is my side hustle, Bro, I do this, but
right now my wife is my wife and kids are
out for vacation. Then I wasn't able to go because
(50:33):
because of debt, because if I take this vacation, it
was going to add on to that debt where I
could produce more and then also invest two to three
episodes daily to the show. So I was like, you
know what, this is the opportunity. I need to grind
out what I need to do right now with the show.
But at the same time, when I go she's in
Alsavador because she's hamadoing. By the way, when I go
(50:53):
to Alsamador and I see all the green and breathe
all the air, time passes so beautifully and slow, and
I'm like eating the food and the sounds, and it's
just the grounding part. And when it gets hot and
it rains and it's humid, and I could take a
(51:14):
bite out of the air and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
It's electric. It's like it's all of it, all of
it is feeding and nursing you, the whole thing. And
then I'm away from and the grind all of it
is eating you.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yes, bro, So then I'm like, no, I'm not that.
I'm not complaining about the show. I loved it. If
it wasn't for this mic and tonight and all the episodes,
if it wasn't for podcasting, I probably wantn't be the
sober father that I am today. But vacation and just
grounding and living in the other side of town and
(51:47):
the other side of that time. Like you said, it's beautiful, bro,
I've only tasted it. I haven't stove head deep into
it yet.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
You're getting and I encourage it.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
I will. I will get there. I will get there.
You know what.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I'm wow why you have this mental framework for what
it is. I think that that's a huge guide. You know,
That's a scaffolding you can ascend on.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I really do believe it. I believe it with everything
I got. I believe it. It's gonna get there. And
if I keep grinding, you never know, I'll be able
to uplift others. That's the most important part of this show, yo.
I want you to let the people know where they
can find you.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
One more time. Yeah. Interverse podcast dot Com I'm on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes,
just launched a substack, which is pretty sweet. The podcast
sided things I do pretty kind of standard issue format.
Episodes are interview format one hour fore one hour for subscribers.
And I just started a brand new show called Inner Circle,
(52:48):
which is just for members only, and it's a solo podcast,
which I've never done before, so it's kind of like
getting me out of my comfort zone. But it's a
weekly episode where I can talk about things I'm learning
from filefield tuning insights, herbalism studies, other podcast research, you know,
(53:09):
because I realized there's so much that I'm taking in
and insights I'm gaining all the time that are not
that are either I'm trying to like force it into
an interview show that is not really about me and
maybe I'm taking too much time to do that, or
it's just getting lost and not transmitted. So now I'm
(53:30):
doing these solo casts where all of that good stuff
weekly is going to get straight to you members, and
also I'll take you know, questions and topics from members
as well they might want me to talk about. So yeah,
that's that's the new thing I'm really excited about. But
check out some of the newest episodes. I've been doing
pretty crazy stuff with AI lately, making original music, but
(53:54):
a lot of time into that original music for each
episode that's like based on the content of the episode,
particularly the one that kind of inspired our talk today
with Brandon Sterling about alchemizing time into wealth. The song
I made for that, I call it Alconomics. It is
so good, so good. Listen to that that will get
(54:16):
you going check it out.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
Make sure you check them out, guys. All the links
are going to be the description of the show. I
want to thank you again for sharing the time, donating
your efforts and all your wisdom onto the show today, guys.
And you know what'd be great if you, guys drop
a five serve on a podcast on the Introverse podcast
and on Spotify and on Apple podcasts and on Pianeer Radio.
Because guys, at the end of the day, we are
the hub for conspiracy theories and beyond and all the
(54:38):
spiritual stuff. I'm glad that you were here today. I
want to thank you again one one last time, and
ladies and gentlemen, make sure you check them out. It's
going to be an inscription of the show. Do not
stop to share the show. Guys, like and subscribe, like
and subscribe. That freaking YouTube channel is finally catching some traction.
I don't like you too, but guys, this is the
tools that I have to use to being forth all
(54:59):
the information so that you guys can feel comfortable in
your own platform that already comes with the phone. Because
you guys are all lazy and can't even do five
stiles five seconds of Easter John on the freaking search part.
You just want to be fed the information on TikTok
watching ass all day. I'm just saying, guys, I'm bashing
on you guys for real. Check us out and also
(55:19):
do not forget to drop a five story po podcast
on Spotify that allows other people to enjoy show as
much as I enjoy making it.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Peace.
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Thank you, bro, I was amazing, Dude
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