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Deborah returns to expose what real alignment feels like — raw growth, deep healing, and spiritual protection for warriors walking through fire. This is more than self-care… it’s self-defense for the soul.


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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Talk, manifestation, lucid, dreaming, realignment, and all the beautiful stuff
about the soul, your.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Consciousness and beyond.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Deborah, let her know one more time where they can
find you or what you're bringing in today.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
All right, So bringing in a bunch of knowledge and
wisdom is my goal and healing. So you can find
me on www. Dot Paranormal paradigma dot com, my instagram,
my TikTok, and my YouTube are all Paranormal Paradigma.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's right. Stay tuned, guys, stayed till the end of
the show. It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Kiss keep the simple, stupid, I promise you it's not
a pod.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:03):
I can't start this episode with the classic guys, because
I think this episode might drop after the four hundredth episode.
So after four hundredth episode, I can't be doing the
other stuff. So the big changes of the show are
coming in there here now. A couple of friends of
me told me, I can't share your show with other
people because they won't take you serious because you start

(01:24):
the show with testicals want to testicals.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So now I have to completely change the intro of
the show.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
After four hundred hours of entertainment of doing that, I
have to change it because we have to evolve and
if we're not adapting, we're freaking dying.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And that's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
So we're gonna deposit into the Bank of knowledge. Welcome
back to Paria Radio podcast, Ladies and gentlemen. I am
troubles Garcia, and I want to thank the Lord for
all I'm gonna be here today, and I want to
thank every single one of you for allowing allowing me
to into your space. Ladies and gentlemen, do not forget
that the most important thing, a thing that you could
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Subscribe by subscribe, share and liking subscribe. Now we're on YouTube, guys,

(02:03):
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Speaker 1 (02:11):
I was very very warm welcome then that was amazing.
I wasn't expecting that, so I'm not trying to pat
myself in the bag but into my own horn. I
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Speaker 1 (03:22):
I shouldn't be cursing anymore, but hey, now, do not
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Spotify that allows other people to enjoy the show as
much as I enjoy making it. Let's jump in from
the deep on on the poor and set the freaking mood.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Please give up one Welcome to my next special guest.
She's been here before, very very long time. About think
she was.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Here on season three, season two. But she did an
amazing show and she's doing her round. She's very interactive,
she has an amazing following.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Please give a one. Welcome to Debora Roke from my.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Oh wow, thank you, my god. That was amazing. I
think that's one of the coolest introductions I've had on
a podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Thank you, Thank you so much. Hey, I try.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know what they say, You know, it's like everybody
else is doing the podcast thing?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
What makes you different?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
And I'm like, well, I'm brown, i talk really really fast,
and I'm bilingual. So I'm using all of those things
to my to my convenience. You know, how are you?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Thank you for being on the show.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I'm good, you know, making it doing the things, living life,
hustling and making the dream work. I guess. So that's
what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Let's really vitalize that energy and let's bring some more
positivity to your life. I want you to be healthy,
I want you to be wealthy, and whatever it is
that you're doing, and whatever it is that you put
your hands on, any type of project. I wanted to
manifest into greatness. So let's just put that out there first, Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Amen? Oh yeah amen?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
They can find me on Instagram, mostly TikTok, but definitely
my website. I'm on www dot Paranormal Paradigma dot com,
where you can book readings and healing sessions for pay
what you can price.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
One of these days it's going to get to a
point where you're not pay what you can And hopefully
this is also putting good vibes out there You're gonna
be able to charge what you need to charge for
this great stuff, because I mean, people are doing it
out there, but you're very You're very selfless for saying that,
and also very focused and I see that. So today
we're talking about manifestation and how to realign.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I think this is going to help you too.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I mean, I'm constantly working on it. I'm trying to
use my own tips and tricks and what I know
from spirits. So like here I am doing the things
and try and embody it and be the example. So
I'm definitely here for it.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Talk to me, what is realignment? And stuck with that?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
With that, well, a lot of people, well, what's disalignment?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Right?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
So what makes you feel disaligned? And for the most
part people don't really I don't even know if people
understand that they are disaligned or what that kind of
feels like. So I guess you tell me, do you
feel disaligned or do you feel aligned in your life?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right now, I feel like it's getting into the point
where I'm getting aligned.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It started about six.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Months ago and it fell almost it could have been worse,
but I had a very tragic accident. This is where
it pushed me and kindapulted me to just stop drinking
and also consuming drugs because I was constantly diving into meth,
which is not good.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Then.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
So the past six actually now we're going on to
the seventh month, the last seven months, I've been trying
to rectify that and stayed sober for a very long time,
and I feel cognitively better.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
My memory is back.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
And I feel like, for example, with the show, things
are lining up a lot better. At home, it can
be better, But I also understand that, you know, sometimes
damages have been done and you can't go back, no
matter I mean, as far as what I'm living, as
far as how I think, sometimes the.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Damages are on repaarable.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So I even though in different aspects of my life
and we're getting intimate here, I am a little unhappy.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm not miserable like I used to be, because I used.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
To be miserable when I used to drink, miserable when
I was high, and still have those problems at home
and then still not have any traction with the show.
So it's not that I'm miserable anymore. I'm growing into
what I'm supposed to be. I'm shaping myself, I believe.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Sorry if I feel like I'm also like getting a
lot of things from you as I'm just like getting emotions. Man,
I'm just like wow. So if you see my facial expressions,
it's because I'm trying to like push them away so
that it doesn't affect me. It's strong you're near death,
like a near death situation or something like that.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
No, no, I I almost crashed, almost almost had.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
A fatal accident almost I won't say fatal, but.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Is near death.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But I didn't hit.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Anything, I lost my vehicle. I was drunk, but the
cops didn't take me to jail. It's just one of
those days where you're like, dude, if I don't wake
up now, and that's.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
What I'm saying, like if like, that's what I got through.
So it was just well anyway, I don't want to
get to put into it, but like I definitely when
you were talking about it, I was like, oh, this
man almost lost his life. So it's just really interesting
that now we're talking about that, especially after these very
traumatic like events in your life, and we're talking about

(08:28):
realignment and how you're saying like, oh, before it was miserable,
Now I do feel like I'm in a happier space.
But do you know that, Like, are you distinguishing between
Like what's the difference between them? Like what is the difference?
Like how do you know your aligning?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
How I feel? I like it. This is a THIRDY session.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I feel like I've learned to love myself, respect myself,
and put my happiness happiness first before I try to
make even my kids happy, because if I'm unmelnourished, if
I am treating myself like like crap, it's gonna it's
gonna reflect on my kids, which is the most important
thing for me.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
And then realigning with God as well.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I've been trying to really hard, trying to get more
into a spiritual realm and at least have an intimate
relationship with God. I don't I don't want to say, oh,
bible thumping warrior, right, but I want to I want
to have some intimate relationship with God. And then and
then the wife obviously, and then the show, which I
think these are all areas where have I've had some growth?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, perfect, So then would you say that then you
feel more aligned because you're becoming more honest and authentic
with yourself mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Without the mixture of drugs and alcohol as well, that's
been a battle.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, I mean drugs and alcohol. Are they really helping
you be yourself or are they helping you escape yourself?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I was trying to escape myself, yeah, when I used
to do it. Yeah, right, And.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
So that's not alignment when anytime they that you try
to hide from the things that you're experiencing, or not
feel the things that you're supposed to be feeling, or
you feel miserable, like you said, doing the things that
you're doing on the daily life because you feel obligated
that you have to do it and it doesn't feel right,
but you need to do it because you have to

(10:18):
pay the bills, and this is what society told you.
And then you won't be accepted in your life, or
the family is going to ostracize you or outcast you.
This is all things that make you feel unaligned or disaligned. Right,
you're not really walking in your truth. You're not really
being authentic to yourself because honestly, you don't even know
how to be authentic with yourself. You've been taught that

(10:42):
life has to be a certain way. You have to
have kids at a certain age, you have to have
a certain job at a certain age, you have to
make a certain income at a certain age, you have
to have a certain type of knowledge, you have to
have like abide by a certain system. This is all
like things that are obviously what people call like part
of the matrix. It's all conditioning to a certain extent.
Our job is to filter out what's actually true for us.

(11:04):
And then once we start to do that, once we
start to filter out like Okay, well this is what
I was taught, but is it really true for me,
like who I am, then that's when you start to
enter into alignment. Disalignment is everything else that doesn't follow
into who you are or what you are or who
you want to be, because true alignment is authenticity. But

(11:27):
the thing about it is that true alignment only comes
when you align whatever is in your subconscious beliefs with
your conscious beliefs. And a lot of people right now,
me included, are like having issues with certain types of
like with like you said we were talking earlier, like
manifestation or alignment, because our conscious says one thing, but

(11:51):
our subconscious knows another, and unless you do this thing
with both of them, where you align these both things,
you're not ever going to really true, truly be aligned.
You'll get closer to alignment, right, But true alignment comes
when you make as Young said, you know, Carl Jung,
He said, you know, when you make the subconscious conscious,

(12:12):
you understand and you practice this awareness, and you understand
what's really driving your behaviors or your actions or your thoughts,
and what is you and what is not. Then that's
when true alignment can take place. And then all these
things start to fall into place or fall out of
place because they truly don't resonate with you or align
with you any longer. So alignment is to do both things.

(12:33):
It's going to cause things to manifest and things to
go forward, but then it's also caused things to fall
away because they all make place for the growth and
for the changes that are coming. So true alignment authenticity,
be who you are one hundred percent in your conscious
mind and in your subconscious mind, and aligning those booths.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Damn told you we're going to make the process into
the bank of knowledge, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, I've seen it, and I don't want to get
too personally here to show because a lot of a
lot of people know what kind of like what's going on.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
But you're right.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So when there's growth in different areas, some of the
things get shedded away, and yeah, man, I see it.
I see it with intermediate loved ones. So we'll see
what happens with that.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
And it's very hard. But I think what happens is
that we're we're we're really living in a fear based
society where everybody's like, oh, you can't do such and
such thing, or you shouldn't do this, or that's not
the way it is because there's a fear of how
things are going to go or what's going to happen
in the stability or the instability that's going to cause,

(13:43):
or the judgments or the criticism and the you know,
all these things, and that's all fear, you understand, and
if you keep listening to that, that's what's going to
continue to dictate your life. But once you start to
truly align and you say, well, why am I how
can I fear when it comes to like losing things?
I guess is what I'm trying to say. When it

(14:04):
comes to losing things, if you're afraid of losing, then
you're also afraid of gaining because they're on the same.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Spectrum hate when you have those.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Bombs, so can't do one without the other. It's just
absolutely impossible when things lie on the same spectrum energetically
or spiritually. That's why everything's a paradox, right, So if
you like, the opposite of gaining is losing. If you
want to gain, obviously, then you have to go to

(14:35):
the opposite end and lose. And you know, that's kind
of the game that you play the same thing with, Like,
you know, love and you're not love. I would say
I wouldn't say hate because hate is a very powerful thing.
That's like truly the stream of love. But like, let's
say like not loving and loving like you know, in

(14:56):
order for you to experience true love, like you also
have to know what it feels like not to be loved,
and you know what that looks like. It's just it
has to be on the same spectrum for you to
finally come into it and then balance it.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Out for yourself learning learning how not to be loved.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I told you this is going to reset it with
me if he can told you, man.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Being okay with not being loved, being okay with not
being loved, so that you can truly feel loved. It's
a fear that all of us have. Nobody wants to
feel not loved or not respected, or not seen or
not heard, not understood.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
But you have that not belonging, Yeah, not belonging.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
But if you don't experience that, then how do you
know that? You know, how do you appreciate it when
it comes or how do you recognize it when you
when it finally comes to you. You got to know
what it's like to like, not feel that, so that
when it comes to you're like, oh shit, like this
is what it's like.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
To be able to.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't want to say forecasts, and I don't want
to say I mean, I don't want to say manifest
I want to say forecast. Maybe I'm wrong. You'll be
able to educate me on it. Excuse me. Do you
have to be fully aligned to be able to understand
and then practice manifestation?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Absolutely not, Absolutely not, because this is a learning ground,
like this is where we kind of take the time
to learn the lessons and do the thing. So for
people to be truly aligned and manifest.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
No.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
The only thing is that when you're not fully aligned things,
when you do manifest things, maybe it don't come fully
the way that you want it, or they only come
in like parts, or they only come in like halfs.
You understand, like what happens when you're not truly aligned.
You're going to still manifest because you are aligning. It's
not like you're not aligning, it's just that you know
you're getting closer and closer and closer. Once you're in

(17:03):
that full alignment, it's almost like things feel effortless. Things
come to you effortlessly, making things happen. Everything's just kind
of falling into place you without like even trying, because
you're already on that vibe. You're already aligned. You're doing
what you know you have to do. You're putting in
the work. Because that's another thing. People think that you

(17:25):
can manifest just with thoughts. No, you have to work, Like,
there is no manifestation without work. It just does, thank you,
there is no there's none of that. So that like
if anybody's selling you, like just raise your vibe and
you're gonna manifest run because you have to effing put
in the work. That is part of the aligning process

(17:49):
is the work that you put in it. The diligence
is consistency, the discipline and so but once you're aligned,
these things become more effortless. You know where to go,
you know who to speak to, you know what to do,
you trust to yourself, and then things just sort of
say hey, and they start to show up and the
path starts to sort of unfold on its own. And
that's Truman.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
WHOA.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's funny because I'm always bashing on all of my boys.
We have a big giant podcast chat room where everybody's
just talking crap about each other in the positive manner.
We're always, you know, uplifting each other. And I'm like
the only one I tell them, Hey, guys, are you
guys working today? Hey, I'm recording today. You guys recording?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like like I'm always bombing them with like come on,
get to work, get to work, you know, cause one
thing is to say, oh, I'm a podcaster, And one
thing is to say.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I podcast, Like.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Okay, you could podcast, but are you are you? Are
you embodying? Like are you having the full embodiment of
a podcaster? Success will come when it comes. But like
one thing is to like smash on it, you know,
like every single time, like and has to come with
rob passion intent, I believe, I believe this is this
is what I practice rab passion intent, and then not
really care about the money. The money is gonna fall

(18:58):
one and it's too far at its pace right after
you find the alignment.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Right after you find the alignment and you let go.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Of the expectation the expectation.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
The other thing too, is that people are like, Okay,
this is what I want, this is what I m vision,
and then they attach themselves to the vision and then
they're like, but I need it to be this way.
And then you're like, but that's not how the universe
or God works. The God says, I'm going to give
this to you, but you're not going to know how
it's going to come to you. You're not going to
know how I'm going to present it or when it's

(19:29):
going to come. I'm going to lay this out for you.
But if you get too attached to the thing that
you want, you're actually, in some crazy way, actually pushing
it away from you because you're it's more of a
resistant energy than anything else. So part of the manifestation
process is trusting that things will come to you in

(19:51):
the way that they're supposed to and not the way
that you necessarily want them to. Because you trust the universe,
there is a balance within like putting in the work
and then letting go of the expectation and letting things
in life sort of conspire for you. And this is
why everybody talks about balance or like alchemy and things
like that, or temperance, because it's it's sort of like

(20:13):
a it's a game. You understand, like what works for you?
How much work can you really put in and be
efficient without burning yourself out? Are you really doing like
good to yourself and good for your show? If you're
always burned out? No, you're not so, Like how you
balance that? And then in those moments of like quiet
time or you know, reflection, what are the ideas that

(20:36):
are coming to you? How can you expand yourself? What
truths are you learning about yourself? How can you apply
that you understand and then letting go and seeing where
it takes you and how this just kind of flows
and then things will sort of start to fall into place.
But a lot of people when they manifest or they
want to try to manifest, they get attached to the
idea that they have in their head. They create these

(20:56):
vision boards, which is fine. Nobody's saying don't do it,
just don't attach yourself to it. Do it, wish it,
let go of the expectation, and that life do whatever
it needs to do as long as you continue to
work toward it.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the key people, And I think the logical part
about attaching it with your emotion and attaching yourself into
the vision would be I want it this way. But
then you take away from like the journey, the growth process.
For example, myself, I the way I envision myself as
probably being the most impactful Latino podcaster in the country

(21:31):
and being able to talk to people that I've never
imagined of speaking with, from artists to the smallest to
authors and everything. But I also understand that in order
to get to that point, there's gonna be a journey
of networking, a journey of conversations, a journey of time
deposit into the bank of knowledge, like I said, right now, right,
and then having the growth process. There's gonna be ups

(21:53):
and downs. There's gonna be posts that don't even get
looked at, it's gonna be posts that blow the hell up,
and then all of these all those emotions are working,
all of those events.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Are working towards what the end goal is.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You can't just say I want to be the most
impowerful by lingual like, you can't just say that and
not expect to have the flaws and the downs and
and the when you fall off and people talk crap
and if not, you know, the haters and the.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Trolls like all of that.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
You have to be mentally prepared for that too, because
that's part of that journey.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
You can't just push it away.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So I would say, like adding amplifying your message will
be putting your efforts and all your energy and emotion
and intent only on that visualization. You probably won't you know,
you're probably gonna miss out on the most valuable parts,
which is gonna be the growth because once you get
to the to that videos like visualizedization, I keep saying
it wrong, you have to maintain it. How are you

(22:45):
gonna maintain it if you haven't lost? Just like you said,
how are you gonna know when.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
You are loved? If you haven't you haven't accepted not
being loved?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Hmmm yeah, And how how do you know? How would
you find yourself if you don't know how to like
be okay with being lost. Like I told that actually
to somebody today in one of my healing sessions. We
were talking about her girlth transition, her transitioning from like
corporate to like something more creative in her life, and
she was like, oh, I feel lost, And her guide
was literally like, well, then how do you find yourself?

(23:15):
How can you find something that's not lost? You can't,
It's absolutely impossible. And people have this fear of being
lost and I don't know and where am I going?
What's my purpose and what's the next step? And then
I'm realizing that you're on a process of discovery and
in order to discover yourself, you can't know everything. And
we all just want to know everything all the time
because that's what we're taught successes or that's how we

(23:37):
know where we're going. And you know that just creates anxiety.
That's not a way to live life. You think our
ancestors like you every day, how the day was going
to look, and like all is no you understand, like
we're supposed to, there is an aspect of mystery or
the unknown that's absolutely necessary for our growth because otherwise,

(24:00):
if we knew everything, then where would the evolution be?
Where would the you know us finding ourselves or coming
home to ourselves, remembering ourselves. You can't remember something you
haven't forgotten. You can't find something you haven't lost. Did
you understand? So it's just like.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Switching up the tempo a little bit and thank you
for showing all that information. What about if? What if
you're a lucid dreamer, So asking for a friend. If
you're a livid lucid dreamer, can you tap into some
uh to a to a type of I want to say,

(24:39):
called that algorithm in your subconscience where you're able to
manifest something forth not just living in your dream, but
also put it into the physical, bring it into the physical.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Can you can't weaponize it? Basically, That's why I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm trying to understand the question. So in your lucid dreaming,
can you make your dreamer? What are you asking?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
So I'm gonna give you to an example. There is
sometimes I haven't done this particular one in a while.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I probably try it today.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I have to have in the right I think it's
the right space in my heart, like I have to
be in the right space. But I'm an active locid dreamer,
Like it's not that I don't feel gifted, and I'm
not invoking anything. I'm not trying to say it that
I'm gifted at all. I'm just saying this is something
I do, and this is something personal to me that
I do, and I don't like sharing it until like moments.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like this where I'm ann learn so I do it,
and I could.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I could control my dream and then wake up, drink
some water, come back, and then start the dream right
where I left off the next morning. I'll be exhausted
and stuff. But I've done it a couple of times
to where as I'm living the life of what I
want to be in the real material world. Yet what

(25:52):
I'm saying kind of like I'm living my dream is
that what.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
It is, is that what it's called.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I mean, it's one of the ways that people refer
to it as I think maybe that'll be one of
the easier ways to understand what you're doing. You basically
entered the timeline that you're trying to create, like you're
living in that future. You're living in that time in
your lucid dream, which is interesting because then that's telling
me that you're able to your soul or your body,

(26:24):
your consciousness is able to sort of like peek into
the timeline. Do you understand like there's a part of
you that sort of travels and says, hey, I see you,
this is where we're going. Okay, just checking in and
can you kind of come back. Yeah, it's almost tasting
the reality that you're trying to create for yourself. And
it might not look exactly the way that you dream it,

(26:45):
but it is that sort of like you entering into
this other level of space and time.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Myke, my co worker at work, shout outs to Juan.
He comes in. He tells me. He tells me, why
are you cursing yourself like that?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
And I told him because in that lucid dream, when
I do have that pop pattern and I could lose
ad dream, my future dream of myself living in the
material world even makes any sense. I I told him,
you know how my you know how my marriage ends.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
He goes, how by a girl in a red dress.
He goes, what, dude, don't tell me that.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm like, yeah, the girl in my red dress, and
she's the one that makes the entire my entire.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Business start to collapse. And he goes avoid the girl
with the red dress. So now we joke around the girl.
We joke around and we call everything the girl with
the red dress. We call like if there's something bad
happening at work, and I get distracted.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Oh, they grow with the red dress, bro, And we
know it's like an inside joke. But like I told him,
like I exposed that to him, and I'm like, Bro,
I always dream about this.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's like I controlled it and I'm at the peak
of my success, and then a girl with the red
dress shows up, Bro, and she just freaking knocks me
off my boots. And he's like, Bro, you're cursing yourself.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Dog, don't say that. So stuff like that, do you know?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
It's like I'm peaking into the future and I'm not
saying I want to meet this girl in the red dress,
but you know what I'm to say, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I mean, the interesting thing about some of these dreams
sometimes is that it could definitely be a girl in
a red dress. You may very well be seeing this
woman in a red dress and a woman that will
present herself in a red dress and knock your boots off,
like you said, or it can be a symbol of
something else, like what does red mean? What is that
significance to you when when does red come? What is

(28:29):
that tie to? What is you know, something to explore
basically for you to see what resonates. Is it really
a girl in the red dress? Or is a girl
in the red dress a symbol for something else that's
coming in your life?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Damn, I never thought about it like that, never thought
about it like that.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You see, this is what man, It's very important to
have these conversations with people, especially that.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Are our guides. The way you are it's good stop.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, So that's just something to consider. It can be both.
And that's the thing about these psychic sort of phenomena.
They're not always black and white. It's not always how
they come out like this is we Often the language
is a subconscious or I don't know the content consciousness,
and the consciousness has especially in the subconscious, like symbols
is definitely one of the languages you understand an emotion.

(29:15):
So it's trying to decipher what these emotions and these
symbols are trying to tell us. So like, for instance,
when you have these lucid dreams and you see this
growing a red dress, are you like happy? Are you upset?
Are you excited or you like turned on like I
don't know whatever. That's going to tell you something more
about what this means and where this is going for you.
Absolutely hmm on the.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
DM, I'm gonna hit you up on a personal level
and tell you what should I ask to go through addresses?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
All right in there, we've already we already connected. You
might as well.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Matters what do you think I should tell her? Hey, girl, like,
what's up? It's weird? Yeah, that happened. I said.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
You can definitely try to talk to her if she
allows you, But it'll be interesting. What were you gonna say?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Because every single time, like I've I've gone to that
point of that dream, it keeps the entire conversation with her,
It just goes like it goes from the moment I
meet her, I see her, I see her in that
freaking private event, and then it goes to where like
I'm breaking up with the wife, and then it goes
to like I'm remarrying, and then it goes to like
it jumps steps. It doesn't tell me what happens here,

(30:26):
it's but I know what happens within like ten years.
It's like an expansion, like it's like it's it's not
very like fast, it's just boom boom, boom boom. I'm like, damn, dude,
but like, yeah, so that's why I kind of like
my my my homie work is like dude, like you're.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Freaking cursing yourself, bro, And then we just.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now I'm like, I told I'm manifesting it probably joking
me obviously.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I mean, who.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Knows life does these really weird crazy things. And I
mean it's always these like again psychic phenomena, these you know,
dreams and things like that. They're only going to give
you a hint. They're only going to give you a
little piece of the puzzle. The whole point is, like
what you said, the journey, the process, how you get there,
how it evolves, when it shows up. That's part of
the mystery and the leaure and you know the fun

(31:13):
of this life and just kind of putting the dots
together and seeing how it manifests and what that means
when it does, and you can trust that it will
show up when it's meant to, when you're ready to.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
In the meantime, we keep rocking the mic and having
amazing episodes like this one. This is actually, guys, going
to be a therapeutic session for myself and not for
you guys, for me Debra before we end the show,
because we only do thirty to forty minutes here. You
know that, But I want to know now, let me
ask you a question. This is very interesting. Yes, in
the next two years, what's your mission?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Oh, to grow. My mission is to just continue to
learn and expand and grow my abilities and help as
many people as I can, sort of get comfortable with
the spirit realm and this like the paranormal and spiritual realms,
along with healing themselves and healing their subconscious so that
they can align and manifest the life and live their purpose.

(32:14):
Because what a lot of people don't understand is that
everybody externalizes their purpose. That is the absolute like biggest
trick in the book. Like, your purpose is not outside
of you. You don't seek out your purpose. You become
your purpose. You are your purpose. So you enter into
your purpose when you find yourself and when you heal yourself.

(32:36):
And this is how the alignment and the manifestation and
the life that you want to create, the reality you
want to create happens because you've healed. You're not no
longer living the constructs that you were told to live
and abide by. You're living your personal authentic truth. And
that's true alignment. And so that's what I do. That's
what I do in my healing sessions, and I do

(32:56):
that through spirit, and I'm helping. I want to be
able to in the next two years, like just focus
on healing individuals and aligning them to themselves their purpose
and grow basically and doing my medium readings and expand
my gifts and help people across the world essentially, And you.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Won't get there one person at a time.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
You're going to get there. I remembered when I started
the show about five years ago.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
And I had you on like I'll had you on
like two three years ago, and and I was doing
the show lost. I was doing the show without a purpose.
I was doing the show just because it made me
feel good and and I was boring board and I
didn't want to you know, I wanted to get away
from people and stuff, and there was no real air

(33:52):
under my sales, you know. And a lot of the
times we get to that point and we're like, like
I don't even know what to do. I'm you don't
feel what's it called the motivation to do things? You like,
become a lazy soul? I want to say, but that's
what I'm trying to avoid. And I see you now

(34:12):
you're in the growth process, so am I. And I'm
gonna have to see you in the next couple of years.
Hopefully you come back on the show sooner than that.
But this is gonna be uh you know, I'm gonnaee
you at the top, basically what I'm trying to say
to cut it short, because we all got to expand
in our stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I feel there's never.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Been a moment in life to be more awakened, more
in tuned than now. The thirst for people is real,
the thirst for reality is real. The thirst for getting
away from these these these uh these technology things, away
from your screen, away from from the media, away it's
never been There's never been a better opportunity to become

(34:53):
a medium, to become a podcaster, to become all these
other great stuff. This is the moment of creativity has
never been this big. The access points, the tools have
never been in on this amount of abundance. You know,
the amount of souls that need help, the amount of
tools you are it's just It's the perfect moment to
attack and to do it. So I encourage everybody out there,

(35:14):
if you are creative and you're trying to put something out,
this is the moment.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Do it, guys. You know.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And again, Debro, I want to thank you so much
for gifting me your time, gifting me your your wisdom
and aligning me to appoint to a certain degree, helping
me push myself more to the to the to the
deep end of the pole to jump into the deepend
of the pole. Let them know where they can find
you one more.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Time, all right, So anybody looking for me, you can
see me on Instagram, Paranormal Paradigma, TikTok, Paranormal Paradigma. YouTube
will will grow. So catch me on that Paranormal Paradigma
and then my website www dot Paranormal paradigma dot com.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Make sure you check her out the descriptions on the
description of the show. You'll find all the links to
all of her socials and guys, check out.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Ask you a question. You never know where it might
take you.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
I also encourage everybody to drop a five serving Apple
podcasts on a Spotify that allows other people to enjoy
the show. As much as I enjoy making it peace.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Thank you so much. That was comparing radio
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