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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kiss, keep the simple, stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I promise you this.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Is not a militia.
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Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the show. I am
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I still use YouTube. I get it by guys.
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the freaking mood. My next quescial guest has been here before.
I think this is his fourth time coming around.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thank you Nick, always a blessed, always a blest and
I always look Nick from.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
The occult rejects. What's that big dunt?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you nothing much, man, I saw whatever you know,
we were scheduled to do this later on. I think
you had, like you know, whatever something happened you had
three times. Let's do it now, man, So absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Matt shout outs to Gangsters Spiritual Gangsters podcast, Teresa Headless Giant.
I haven't spoken to him a while, but I do
follow him on x Twitter. The dude is killing it.
He does lives like phone call, lives on Twitter. Bro.
He's always on Bro, always kicking ass. So definitely active.
Very smart guy, Matt. Shout us to the rest of
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the team at the Ocult Rejects. How are you, bro?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What can people find you?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
The Occult Rejecs.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We're on We're also on YouTube as as you are
YouTube a bit you rumble and all major podcasts. And
we do have the Occult Research Institute dot org and
that is a website if you like reading, tons of
stuff to read.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And thank you, sir, thank you for being here again bro,
and done it some time. Well, I noticed you went
to the cosmocon correct.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Me from r Cosmic Summit.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The Cosmic Summit, fucking cosmic zummy something cosmocon is some
fucking Star Wars shit. Sorry, guys like comic saying yeah,
Cosmic Summit where you spoke with and Rob dabbles with
and saw a lot of different folks. Now, guys, I
haven't done a templar episode on the show with historical value,
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Nick that's just you. You you've sew some stuff with
some templars. Yeah, they're still around.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I didn't even know this well, you know what, I
actually tell you the truth, I did not really take
them into much consideration really being active and doing much
of anything until I went to the Cosmic Summit. One
thing that I you know, I may not have gotten
into it too much on other shows and even my
show when I mentioned it, but there was there was
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a heavy Freemason. There's a lot of Freemasons there to begin.
I mean, you know, even think Raindall Colson is a Freemason,
and he was a speaker there. And the weird thing
with him he actually had like an entourage, like he
had like two or three cars, like he had someone
driving for him and he had security. Fucking bizarre. I
thought that was weird, but there was.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It was you know, it was funny.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah. Like I was there and told Monday was the
last day, and like there was less people there and
I started, I guess everybody started coming out about like
what they were involved in, and I just found myself
like surrounded by Masons, and I was like this is sucking.
I'm like the only one that part of the club.
I felt out of place. But uh, long story short,
there was a lot of Masons there, and at one
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point they did have they would have booths for people
selling stuff, and they had.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
One section like I was there to film for a guy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Who had a booth on Mount Pilot and I was
supposed to like record interviews and certain things of the summing,
and I did it. I even did a private interview
with Raydall and him. They had these boots and there
was four or five ones that were separate from everyone else.
I think it might have really literally been due to room,
but it was like on a separate wall, and every
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one of them I noticed at some point they were
all templars.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
The first guy was Scott Walter.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now he has that Unearthed America on I think Destination
of fucking one of those channels on TV, and he's
open Templar. Then they had Timothy Hogan from The Knight's Templar.
Then they had Billy Carson. In case people don't know,
Billy Carson's with them. He's with the Knights Templer Billy Carson.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
He might actually come on the show too. He gave
me his phone number.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He has answered me, but I don't know if I
think he's blowing me off, but he didn't give me
his contact info when I was there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Billy Carson, huh, he's a templar.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And then they had a Washwammi or some some Indian
guy that spoke there too. Ron I forgot his fucking name.
Uh he he was on that wall to part of
the Knight's Templar. Now, I don't know this lady could
have been lying too, but like she, I was at
the Knights Temple of Booth and there was a chick
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there that was for the Knights Temple of Booth. There
was actually two of them. And then like Timothy Hogan,
who was like kind of the head of the Knights Templar,
like representing them, had like his booth with his own books,
but still representing the Knights Templar. He was busy talking
to somebody and I was asking them, uh, you know,
does she go on podcast this and that? You know,
I'd like to maybe try to get a contact or whatever,
(06:37):
and uh you know, blah blah blah, yes, this and that,
and then was like trying to sell me like the
Knight's Templar College or something like that. I was like, yeah,
I was. I think I said, I was already in
the OTO. I was already in an organization. I'm not
looking to join another one. I'm good on my own.
And then like she I don't know if she's trying
to sell it to me, but then she throws Jay Henderson,
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the kid from Project Unity that was real big on
showing everybody the evidence that was coming from Trevor Garcia
of the stuff underneath the pyramids. She was like, oh, well,
Jay Henderson's with us too, Like fuck, what okay? Like
how many people here are on Templars and Masons? So
I just thought that was weird. So I mean, I'm
just saying, you know, she threw him under the bus.
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I don't know if she was telling the truth. They're
confused or what, but she said he was as well.
So what I'm getting at is that eventually you start
to find out that there was a fuck ton of
Templars and Masons. Though now I know the thing that
I was telling you, oh my mind, is that this
thing was from Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then it ended
Monday Monday.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Basically all day they had one class.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I remember they had Ashton Forbes there the kid with
the guy with the MH seven thirty or whatever that
is with that plane disappearing.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
He was there with Bob Greenier.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
They did like they split up, like a three hour
lecture together. And when Bob Greenier went and not knocking
him because he is open about being into the occult,
he doesn't lie light it or he doesn't hide it.
He was showing how he thinks that that some of
the science that they're using does go back to actually
a cult symbolism. And so like you had a little
bit of a cult then then uh, then later on
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in that day you had a three hour lecture by
Randall Calson just doing the Merkaba. He was like literally
showing people jamachery and a cult symbolism and all that.
And then in another room he got three hours of
the Knights Templar speaking. You had Scout Walter doing an
hour and a half of like history, and then you
had Timothy Hogan doing like an hour and a half
a nacissism or ba vice versa whatever the backwards. So
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like I started noticing, I was this is interesting. This
whole last day is like all kind of a cult,
you know, a little interesting, but uh, the.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Meeting saved the best for last. He could drop their sets.
The best DJs come out to play the last.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I was like, now you know what this was all
really about, right, yeah? And uh so now I did
go to the Knight's Temple one, of course, I was
more interested in that than going to see about the
Merkaba and Randall calson I'll just be totally honest with you.
I think he'd be just totally honest with you the
amount of like I don't worship that. I've heard all
Randall calls and Randall calls and Randall calls, and I
(09:06):
was like, fuck, I don't even want to hear this
guy talk or he was his name again, like everybody,
it's like, it's just like cogmatized by this dude because
it's just on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I was like, bigatiz, Oh, you know, I've probably seen
guys where like it was like Trump fucking derangement syndrome,
offense or anything, like you know, people guess what the
fucking dude, And I'm like, you take shits just like me,
and you do.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I'm sure it probably takes them longing to put on
his fucking pants in the morning.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The use.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's just like, why people like sweating this guy? So
I really didn't. I was just like, I don't want
to hear him anymore. I'm tired of fucking hearing about
the guy blah blah blah. So I went to the
Night Semple of thing, and I'm glad I did because
I even I had a press pass so I was
able to record anything. So I recorded a stuff too
when they were doing it, and uh, they started coming
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out and saying some crazy shit that I was just like, Yo,
they'd become like serious about this or is this Like
they made the claim that I think one of Scott
Walter's last books that he put out is about them decipherings.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You're telling me all these names.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'm freaking looking them up to how yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
He uh guy on TV?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He Uh basically I think his last book and he's
even done some stuff about deciphering some tablet I forgot
the Supposedly this tablet has brought them to some place
in like Montana and somewhere else that's upposedly like it's
kind of like a treasure map. And they're saying and
they're also saying that they're gonna get the same team
(10:33):
that scanned the Pyramids to start scanning the ground where
they think these things are at. But they're saying by
twenty twenty six, and they said, well, when we have
this with tell in the world, we're going, you know whatever,
We're announcing this to everybody. They say that they have
one of six arcs of the Covenant, and they're saying
(10:53):
that these things are actually free and intere devices. That's
what they're they're saying that it is, basically.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that they found the bones of Jesus, Mary Magdalene.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And kids or kid shut the front door.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
No, I swear to god, they said that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They they said out of Scott Walter's mouth, he said,
it's this shit's coming regardless if people already are not
for it.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Legit, almost word for word, out of his mouth he
said something just like that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
The amount of impact that would have on a global scale,
it would collapse exactly what you were saying behind before
we started recording. It would collapse people's beliefs, cultural beliefs, religions.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, I mean that's really like.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I was saying to you earlier that me and
Teresa one time we covered the Saint Gallum mafia and
they were kind of like there was bishops that are
cardinals whoever, being kind of like put in there that
were now bringing other people up that were all part
of like Freemason when you're part of the club, and
they're basically trying to like you know, install leftist ideology
into the church, and we were trying to show how
they've been trying to do that for a while. I
(11:56):
can't remember the name of people. It's not a saysn't
a way to get people to go with it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It sounds like it sounds like they were successful to
a degree.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So there's this letter about how one Mason talking to
another one I think, talking about how they're going to
infiltrate the Catholic Church and you know what, blah blah blah.
And you know, when we covered it the way they
described it to me, we're like, oh, probably aliens, because
they said that they're going to do something that will
end up crushing old religions and getting rid of religions,
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but then showing something to the people that would get
agnostics and atheists to believe in something. So I was like, oh,
you know, uf all, a fucking alien landing on the
White House. Long that will definitely do it. But then
a couple of days ago, I don't know what it was.
I'm like, hit my vape, I'm a little stoned, and
something reminded me about the Knight's Temple of thing, and
I'm like, yo, that would be also because if they
(12:46):
found the mark and then they found these bones, they're
gonna rewrite Catholicism and Christianity.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Christianity Catholicism drops down here and the Agnostics go up
here right in the middle, because.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now you're gonna be like, oh shit, this shit is real.
But they may even look at as a science thing,
but still they're gonna start acknowledging.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I was just like, yo'll take it as Jesus
was literal, he was on the side or not. It
was weird.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
When I started thinking about that, I was like, that
could accomplish that.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I was like, fuck, that sounds like World War I
mean our world or New World Order, sounds like, uh,
the whole chance almost.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They kind of almost tossed that term around.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Actually that's wicked, bro.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And then the Rise of Ai.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, see what I'm saying, See where it's going right,
Oh shit, it'll be back if it'll be dope best
get By the end of twenty twenty six, we go
back to back to this episode and we're like, what you.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Know, Yeah, did you come out and say that ship
in twenty twenty six, I'm trying to get the guy
on the show to talk about it, but he followed
me on the Twitter but won't answer. My dam Now.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
People people are busy, bro, and you know, I'll give them.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I know how it feels like it happened to me
today and hey man, look bro.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh I think a lot of them also, unless you
shows gigantic, they don't give a ship.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's That's That's where I was heading before.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Good because I had something else I wanted to throw
in this, So say what you got then I'll answer more.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, people won't like. That's why I put on my
fucking one of my my status on my Instagram.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I use Instagram. I'm an Instagram guy, and I put.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Dude, you fuck with me and fuck with me. You
don't have to dance around times or or don't don't
do that, bro, Just tell me, hey, bro, yeah, I
don't fuck with you. Bro. Cool awesome? Are you on
your way? I'm on my way. Fuck it, I could
tell you working. I got fucking content in the bank.
You are content in the back eight. You know, there's
it's a big ass pie. We could all get a
fucking slice, you know, like what the fuck? So, yeah,
(14:41):
you don't fuck me, but you don't have to like
dance around and hit. That's how I would take it,
and if I want to get emotion about it. But yeah,
it's kind of like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, it's not like I had Ashton for first off,
I spoke to him numerous times at the at the
fucking summit. I mean, he was one of the people
that was actually very much hanging out with everybody from
the summit. Like I spoke about coming on the podcast.
Guy actually even followed me on fucking Twitter. He was
retweeting a few things on mine. I mean, oh yeah,
I'll come on. And then it's like Guy's bitching about
how Joe Rogan said no, and then he's bitching that
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Danny Jones fucking did something in his friend Bob Greener's
show with Danny Jones got fucking erased to never put out.
And I'm like, I literally said, you're bitching about these podcasts.
But like, I've asked you on mine. How many times
do you won't fucking answer me? Now? Because my show's
not big enough, you check it out, you know what
I'm saying, Like, come on, you're bitching about how people
guys literally bitching how like podcasts, podcasts won't have him
(15:31):
on or they won't release his ship. And I'm like,
but yet I'm asking you and you're fucking blowing you off.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You know what's funny if your show and giving you
the show, you would have dropped that. You would have
been the first one story.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, would have been pointing out the ship that his
buddy is doing on the you know, the other half
of the lecture showing how there's a cult fucking technology
beyond this whatever it is, what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I was just saying, you know, it's funny how this
is another thing.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I wanted to mention too that I had noticed. Again,
I was basically told from somebody that Free Mason is
pretty much in Templars paid for the Cosmic Summit. Now
I know the guy that was in charge of it.
I don't know if he's a Mason or not. I
didn't ask him his name, George. I don't know, Like
you know, maybe he got funding from them, who knows,
but you know, I was told that that had something
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to do with it. And then, you know what I
found interesting is that if I don't know, if you
follow Danny Jones, I don't care for the guy he's
getting Like tons of all the speakers that were a
Cosmic Summit are all going onto his show now.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And I'm like, is that because he's part of the club.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And he's there?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Ye know, you know what I'm going you know, I'm
going with that.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's interesting how certain ones that I know are part
of the club are all going on too Danny Jones's no,
What's It's just like, do we not have a choice?
You know what I'm saying, Like you if the Masions
have the money and they want to put out an
influence and they got motherfuckers behind the mic, we even
got a shot.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I So there's two things that are stuck out right
before you started talking, and I like to come.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I like the fact that the conversation is not strictly
only conspiracy theories, even though this is also a conspiracy theory.
What I'm about to say, so I spoke with I
don't wanna mention his name. He's a good friend of mine.
He's a decent human being. I don't know this dude
is an evil doer. I mentioned his name because you know,
he gave me an episode and he he himself as
(17:35):
a Freemason. He mentioned to me, how freemason we really
done it, like where the racism comes in from, and
where the fake fake chapters and fake lodgers and all
this good stuff. And we spoke and he told me.
He told me that originally they keep to a race
minimum of one race, so like they don't really like
(17:57):
having especially the older lodgers. They don't like have being different,
different color tone skins, people in like myself, he.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Told the seventies and some of their inner orders were
told you have to sell eleven black people and.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
To keep it real by So then I'm like, damn,
that freaking sucks. Not that I want to be a Freemason,
I'm just saying. And then later on to find oubt
that Freemason's run most of the conspiracy fucking podcast game too,
so i'thing, like, wait the latek wait so I want
to I didn't even have a shot to make it
to the top. Then I would have to be a
(18:31):
controlled puppet man, not that everybody's a control puppet. What happened?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And then you know, I I'm not gonna point fingers
the same names, but like legit, I'm being fucking serious.
People may not want to hear it out of my mouth.
The Freemasons and NASA have a hand in conspiracy podcasting.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
People could go look at people's Latin.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And actually google every little thing that's on there as
their experience, and you will see NASA attached to it,
and maybe even the CIA.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
People don't realize what they've hijacked.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They've black Panther does.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
People do not realize, and it's good, stupidest shit they pedal.
It's fairy tales and sci fi to keep us dumb.
Has nothing to do with magic science.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And then to add to that, you mentioned that Billy
Carson black know, so.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The templarsn't even let him women too, So oh really
yeah yeah yeah, which is different than that. Yeah, it's yeah. Yeah.
The lady at the table was one. That's why I
was like, oh wait what, And I think I had
even asked. I said, oh, it's they take away on
because I thought it was you know, strictly Freemasons. I
don't know if this guy Timothy Hogan has his own
thing going on outside, but whatever, you know. But they
(19:49):
did mention it at even at the lecture. I guess
trying to sell it. They were even at the lecture.
They when they're plugging the templars where they're like, you know,
not most organizations will take women. We do. And they said,
you think it's very important to get a woman's perspective,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
The people, now I'm bringing down to a scale and
this is funny. I'm not and I'm bashing. And I
actually like these guys Neverland Death Squad did the Brohemian
growth thing right, and everybody that's everybody in the podcasting game, upcomers,
people that Rob Bibbles, they were there and I was like,
(20:23):
I could have gone, and I'm thinking, now I see
that everybody working with each other exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Noticed my comment in the chat yesterday yesterday, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Was just wondering, as this is way you brought this
up because I was making a comment about the Moorhemian grove.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Actually no, no, no, I didn't see.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I missed out. I missed out on the comment because
I just briefed through them sometimes when I'm like, you know,
we're busy, but yeah, so these I'm not bashing on
on on on freaking top Lobster and you know, and Raven,
those guys are fucking amazing and they're walking the dream. Hey, man,
fucking power to you. I'm about to have a mama.
And in a couple of weeks. It's not that I'm
bashing on that. I'm saying like, Okay, so there's a
(21:04):
part of there's a group now, and it's and it's
evolving and it's moving fast. And if I don't get
into the freaking group, forget about gatekeeping. I'm not even
gonna be part of getting a slash of pizza that
slices of the pie right.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Shows are used for gatekeeping women?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Damn, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
There's just there's a few of them out there that
you could tell whether you know, they get promoted by somebody.
And man, I don't want to go into do this
too much, but if people were to pay attention, it's
quite obvious what the fuck's going on. People all of
a sudden come out of nowhere and get boosted up,
and all of a sudden, the given positions and things
to do. Where the fuck did that come from? Why
were people showing up in studios? Where the fuck is
(21:45):
your money coming from from that? I don't know if
you're monetized. I just did. I'm telling you right now
that shit ain't fucking paying for me to go in
the studio. You gotta make a hundred bucks an episodes
to cover that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I I bought myself before hook dollar camera. I don't
even know how to use.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I will even put it this way.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
If you have supposed Christians oiling themselves up because somebody's
giving them a fucking attention, I will tell you right now,
mkulture is alive and well whoa. People don't want to
wake the fuck up to what's going on out there.
(22:28):
You have fucking homo thugs oiling themselves up because someone's
giving them attention and a platform. That is the ship
motherfuckers are willing to do today because someone is giving
It's fucking sick, dude. The whole of the there's a
big part of the podcasting community that is severely focused
on sexual gay ship.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That you're being fucking played.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
The joke is on them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Even in the conspiracy world.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yes, yeah, Constant gay fucking jokes. There's something people don't realize.
What the fuck is going on out there? Man. They
are being pimped the fuck out and looked like idiots.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
The joke is on them for a moment of fame,
for a moment of fame.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh it is yo, that's what yo. Listen. I fucked
with certain people from that side. I'm cool with them,
but you're like yo, I was at the Cosmic Summit
and people were sending me shit that was supposedly going
on there, and I.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Literally made a tweet.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It is quite obvious to see who the intellectuals are
and who the degenerates are. Now this weekend and fucking podcasting.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What's going on that weekend?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
The car I'm actually meeting the person that fucking dated
the sphinx. I'm meeting the Italian doctors that actually saw
the shit underneath the pyramid. I'm meeting people that are
actual scientists and went to school and have out papers.
And you got motherfuckers oiling themselves up making gay jokes
because someone gave them a fucking platform. What the fuck
is going on? What are you learning from that? You
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are learning nothing but degenerousy. You're going backwards. You're not
getting close to God at all. Satan is fucking laughing
at you all.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
God, that's stone.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what, Man, that's true.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's truely backwards because they think it's fucking funny and
they have friends.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Now, you can't get the money because of money.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Someone with a big enough platform puts you on. What
the fuck you think happens to your monetization? It's all
about fucking money, man, That's all it is. Yeah, I
can say more crazy as ship, but i'll tell you
after the show. But like it's what people are being
disillusioned by numbers. I can easily fucking prove it, and
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I won't because it will start World War iie, but
I have fucking proof there's fake fucking numbers going on.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oh one thousand, oh, somebody go look at some of
these people.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Some of these people's listener notes scores. My man, why
the fuck is fifty nine percent of their fucking listens
coming from Great Britain because they're fucking bots. How were
you an American podcast getting fifty nine percent in another
fucking country because your fucking fake and your boss probably
paid for your fucking bots and your fake fucking Twitter fans.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Man, it's taking me.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm on my fucking fifth year and I can't get
past twelve hundred fucking listens in episode to fifteen hundred.
The best one was four thousand and had a half dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Because they see fake numbers and get disillusioned and upset
and stop. That is fucking sick.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, you know, this is why the normal podcaster the
broke podcaster. And I'm talking about myself here. I'm not
speaking for anybody else but Trebles, Garcia and paranoid guys.
The only reason why I haven't stopped is because the
show literally keeps me off from using math and the
best version of myself. That's the only reason why I
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fucking podcast. I don't podcast for money, God knows. I
bought me a four hundred dollars camera and it took
me five years to fucking buy it. How for the
money that I'm getting off a spreaker, I'm not making it.
All that money that I get it goes back into
fucking zoom Opus clips to do my stupid clips that
I still don't know how to do. You see what
I'm saying, Like it's out of fucking budget. I have
to go to work eight hours a day. I'm a
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full time father and I do it just to stay sane.
And I still haven't able to be blowing hard.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
On my podcast just from fucking just from speakers stream
yard on my website.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Whatever you make goes back in well at least.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, I made a couple of extra bucks. So I
send some people a fucking t shirts and muggs to
say thank you on the show, which that's what I
do out there to people on their show. No, they
charge them for it. Oh yeah, buy my stupid fucking comic.
That's what you'll get. You don't get nothing for free.
That's what I appreciate them, motherfuckers that work for me,
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So I give them shit. Work with me.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, I do stickers, and I do military patches, and
I do a bunch of other things, and I give
them out for free. You know what I do. I
write a written sentiment, type it up, print it out,
mel it to them because I have nothing else to
give you, bro, but a written sentiment and maybe a
bracelet that I may do my daughter at night, like
fucking trying to do something for you, because.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's a man.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's the only way, and mostly to the collaborators have
worked with me, and I didn't know it was that hard.
It's kind of moralizing now. It's kind of like, if
if I go right now and I post something, check
this out. If I post something on Instagram about the
government one hundred legs, which is average on a good
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day for me, average day, I put something about the
show twenty four legs. People, I don't know what it is.
I can't get the voice, I can't get the face
out there. Maybe it's my marketing strategy.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Bro freaking five years, it's becoming an emotional wreck. So
then I'm like, Okay, what is it that these people
are doing? And mind you, I'm not mentioning names because
half of the people that I fucked with and they
fucked with me back on the show are decent human beings.
But I see some people that I'm like, how the
fuck did you make it? Because you said the word
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nigga a thousand times on an episode.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yo. That's another thing I don't get. Listen, people may
think I'm fucking soft or a pussy. Racism is getting
out of fucking control on so many angles in the
conspiracy community. It's fucking ridiculous. All we're doing is learning
to hate people. If you want to listen to certain shows,
that's the only thing you're learning is hate and fear. Hate, hate,
black people, hate this hate that.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
There's no more research.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There's no more research. Oh dude, more testimonies.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, that's why. Like when I even started up the
show with like the long form stuff, that's because that's
what I was used to back fucking fifteen years ago.
When I started this journey, it used to be like that. Yeah,
I mean, fucking you know he is who he is,
Jordan Maxwell or Passio. I give fucking five to eight
hour videos, man fucking lectures and shit, that's what I
was used to.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
A meme isn't gonna do anything.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And if it's not as shaking sex because itself food,
because it moves right, it won't move.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Bro, and it's device is unfortunate devices devices over the verse.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I decided to do. I decided to do the impossible.
I decided to do three episodes to four episodes a.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Week, dropping and publishing and recording.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I took the entire month of June, set my family
out of the country, and I recorded every single day
for thirty days. Back to back to back to have
content enough to be able to push two to three
or four episodes. It's a week NonStop for the next
year and still recording right now. There's a backlock. Thank god.
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If I if that doesn't help me get pushed out
and get some acknowledgement from these motherfucker's gatekeeping, I don't
know what else to do.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Doc.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That's work, hard work, ethic, inconsistency. It's all I got left.
I don't have about gimmick.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You don't have, you know, it sucks. I was just
because you were talking about, like, Yo, how many shows
you're a pumping and I know somebody else who's like
pumps out mad shows and it just made me think too.
I was just like, yo, Like, even people who are
bitching about the gatekeeping a year or two and specifying
names a role jump joining the ship, what do you mean? Well,
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people who had certain issues and understood, like saw what
was going on in the conspiracy community are now sucking
the deck of the dude that they're talking about. It's like,
how the fuck does this happen? I'm sure you understand
why I'm getting at too. You just see certain like
what the fuck and it's always you know, somebody who's
worried about money when they're spending three minutes in the
beginning of their show fucking running tons of sponsors offull.
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I guess this was what it's all about, just about
the money, and that person's gonna make you more money.
So now you sold your morals and values and you're
cooking for him. Fucking wild dude.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's exhausting.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, I'll tell you, yeah, for real, for real. Why
do you think I have my crew and if anything
we could cover topics on our own? We don't we
I mean totally honest with you. It's like, where was
that fucking shit with the Black Panther. They had that little,
that little dome the fucking area of their own. We
got our own, little little ECNDO whatever that shit was called.
We got our own little thing. We don't have. I
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wouldn't have to actually deal with any outside fucking people,
and we could just function as with all of us
and covering topics and it would be fucking amazing. That's
one of the reasons I've even constructed the show the
way it is, because it's so fucked up out there.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'd rather just fucking stay solo and have my own
little thing.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Part of the club. That's gonna be the name of
the show, being part of.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
The fucking club. Man, I know I'm gonna I'm gonna
get told what I could talk about and I probably
have to sell degenerously and I'm not doing it. Just
not that's a wild dog. That's wild.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Hey man, I want to thank your game for stopping
by bro.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Of course, it was a very emotional. We started with
the templars and and we got in like, you know
what you could tell this is I'm gonna tell you something.
You can tell the people that are truly passionate about
this because of the way we do it, and at
least in the pot alliance, in that group chat, it's
only for uprising like that uprising, uplifting.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And I try to tell the guys it's not my
it's not my group.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
By only this is not my group. But I try
to tell the guys, Hey, guys, I'm recording tonight. There's
another episode dropping tonight. Hey guys, what are you guys doing? Hey,
wake the fuck up and grind Because there's no easy access,
there's no way for us to do this.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I see you, dude.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I don't know if you're talking about the same chat,
but I've seen you do that in the chat that
I've been with you.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, that one the pudd line. I tell them straight up, like, hey, guys,
you have thirty days for fucking catch up, and you
guys haven't dropped shit.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Fuck that I'm going back in and the fucking recording again.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So it's kind of like, you know, like, not not
that I'm bleeding the pack and I don't feel big
of that, but I feel like if I motivate these
motherfuckers to have like a brotherhood to uplift each other,
we can maybe bypass, we can maybe back. Like you
just said, you're.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Telling you right now, it's all up to us. Nobody's
gonna help us. We're fucking right, man. We have to
do it on our own. We have to push our
ship and just you know what I'm trying. No, Ye're right,
we have to come together and star working together, the
people that want to do this shit right. We got
to get over the stupid little fucking things that we
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made bicker about and just remain open minded and work together.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, know where they can find you one more time.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
If we bring the truth. We will always prevail um
the Occult Rejects. Uh bit you rumble YouTube good as
though all major podcast hosts, and we do have the
Occult Research Institute dot org that has a bunch of
people from the Occult Rejects and your friends of the podcast,
tons of you know, stuff to read. There is some video,
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but a lot of stuff you're into reading. There's fucking
weeks probably worth the ship to read on that, So
check it out. And again, Trebles, I always always love
chatting it up with you, man. It's always uh, I
can keep it real. I whant to rec on your
show and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I appreciate that too, Bro. You know what we do
this no no stings, no strings attached. We've had great
conversations on different shows from small to big, from different
creeds and all of that. I'm here for the love
of the art. I'm not here because I want to
be a part of that group or that group. I
am Trebles girls from Paranner Radio. I don't think I'd
be long in a fucking group, guys. I'm I do
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this ship for the sheer passion I started with. I
remember this shit, bro, I remember that I started recording
my little twenty fifteen Mitsubishi Mirage three, little cylinder car
with no AC, with a fucking iPhone, Twilve pro Macs
and a fucking headset for the first one hundred episodes
of my show What because I fucking loved it, not
because I wanted to be rich. Do you know what
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I'm saying, bro? Because I can't love Doug.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I think about it. There's times where people are like, Yo,
do you ever go back and think about like how
you were sitting in your kitchen speaking into a recording
like I was originally first started with like speaking into
like a micro and hand hell thing, and then I
was like putting the card in the computer. I didn't
not know what the fuck I was doing, you know.
I did that for like my third five or six episodes,
and then eventually I'm there with like a twenty five
dollars USB mike, no camera, and I was doing it
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for a while, Like that's just because I love doing.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It, because you love doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I hate you, Doug.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I hate you, Matt, love and respect Nick. Thank you
so much for stopping by, Guys Match shout up to
the Cold Rejects and the entire group. If you guys
enjoy the show, make sure you check out check us
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You're on a podcast on Spotify that allows other people
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Do not forget to like share subscribe on freaking YouTube, guys,
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share and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I don't know how much how to tell you these
guys are freaking tired.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Let's go, guys, have a good one.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Bro COMPNYD Radio