July 13, 2025 • 40 mins
James from Plunder World TCG returns to PARANOI RADIO to expose the twisted truth behind Operation Redwoods—a covert op cloaked in green agendas and elite control. He breaks down hidden ties to government psyops while dropping fire on how to rise up, own your lane, and become the next unstoppable force. This one hits hard.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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spoke Northwoods, we spoke Kennedy, we spoke.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
When else it was speaking. Bro hit him, bro hit him,
hit him, hit him.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, I'm all about inspiring people. So if you're looking
for just boots on the ground, inspiration to grow by
hops not leaps, then pay attention. I'm full of advice.
You can reach me anywhere, and I will try my
best to inspire you because that's my goal.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Boom oh yeah, that's fucking awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Kiss keep a simple, stupid.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Promise you it's.
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
Sit go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right. So once there was a man who bought
a bicycle, and then that bicycle fell apart because he
bought it at Walmart. Let's see how that sounds.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Walmart bicycles all the freaking best bicycles. Bro, Come on, mongols,
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, and then they apart after two months.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Rig bro, I don't. I don't even want to.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm not gonna bullsh it you to me. I've had
bad quality sound before. But if that's that's what, I'm
okay with that. Do you want to sound okay?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm okay with that. As long as you can hear
me and people can hear me, I'm fine that well,
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Speaker 1 (03:34):
It is James from Underworld. What's up, James.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hey, I'm doing just fine. Thanks for having me on
again at a glass last time. And I always like
talking to people. I mean, it were separated by two hours,
but it feels like you're next door.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I like it. I like it. Your audio fucking stinks,
but I like you, so it's all good.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's the only thing that stinks. I just took a shower.
I feel great.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I have it, bro. I'm an talk on the right now.
This is my second episode today.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I went to work for it hours, came back recorded,
and then got some more water and came back and
recorded with you. So we are non stop and sticky butt.
People might call that sweatballs. That the sweatballs.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm a designer, I'm not an audio guy, so forgive
me my boy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Rico from Talking to Wooster's podcast says he always comes
on the show with bad audio. But he comes on
the show dressed as an emoji and he is the
only Mexican, Canadian gay jew that I know.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
That's a complicated MATHA think.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
About that, I know, complicated fucking math.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And then that's his emoji character and he wants to
coin and buy the domain name for this website called
no Skin in the Game, No Skin in the Game
dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I no skinn.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, one of them circumcised fellas.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh yeah yeah, blunder World. Let them know what they
can find you by.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You can always find me at punderworld dot com. Instagram
is a great place to see artwork I throw up
and believe it or not, I am on tour. I
am taking my cards to all kinds of shows because
you've got to meet the public. And I've learned quite
a bit about sales. You know, you got to. It's
(05:28):
one thing to hide behind computer, but when you're out
there shucking and jiving, doing your dance, saying your routine
to people that are after sports cards at Pokemon, it's
a completely different crowd and they look at you funny.
But I still manage to get people to stop and
pay attention and then the sales have been good because
(05:51):
the big push right now is to get series two
printed and every single sale goes to the production cost.
And I mean it's really interesting, folks.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know what, I'm gonna be honest with you. That's
the hard work that's going to make you blow up.
Same thing with the podcast game as first of all.
Second of all, I.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Mean, let me go back real quick.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
There's never been the most important time of our life
in this generation to speak about conspiracy theories and right now,
So for you to do this, you know, you're really
ahead of the curve and prime timing. And then second,
even for me, Bro, I'm a brown podcaster that lacks conspiracies. Okay,
(06:37):
x meth head ex alcoholic right with a beaner accent? Okay, Bro,
like people, I look like a fucking solo. You see
what I'm saying here?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's you fit in at Houston just fine.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
In lad too. I mean, I get it, but it's
not about the fitting in.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I want to be the most impactful podcaster in a
freaking planning and I'm on my way there, but god,
it takes I have to put in triple the work.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Then people that have been associated on network better, you know.
So it's just it's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, you got to work hard, and that's the and
that that's the secret sauce. All those nights you spend
by yourself tweaking a camera, you know, researching a new program,
those silent hours nobody ever sees, but those are the
silent hours that turn you into somebody that's buried your
demons and inspired others to say hi and reach out
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and gain the confidence to put their face on camera.
You know that. It's those silent moments you spend with
your family instead of with the boys. It's those the
The person you are when nobody is looking is who
you really are, and if you're able to share that,
then you're getting somewhere. It doesn't have to be like
(07:50):
earth shattering. Victory is a victory, it doesn't matter who
it's with.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I use the show and now that I'm sober to
keep myself accountable and see my transformation from the inside out,
the more I record as I survive every single day
without using or drinking.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And it's not hard, it's not easy. I mean, I'm sorry,
and I've put that post out about talking about what
is it? What are you doing. Forget about it. What
are you doing when no one's watching.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
When no one's listening, when it was reciprocating your energy,
when no one's watching, what are you doing? Those are
the moments where you're character building your character? Are you spectating,
are you creating?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And are you building something? Or are you just breaking
everything down so destroying yourself and everybody around you?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
When you get into this dark news, I mean, I
don't I don't call it conspiracy anymore. It's it's just
a buzzword. It's sensational. It gets people interested right out
of date. But truth is it's squishy because truth is
monopolized nowadays for people that want to control a narrative
(09:10):
or steer a certain part of the population. And it's
in those moments where people reach for their addictions because
they're too scared to deal with that information. So you
have two examples. You can hear some sensational news and
you can sit around with your boys and get ripped
up and say, yo, did you hear about this? Oh yeah, Okay.
(09:33):
That doesn't get you anywhere. All it does is it
turns into a competition of who the smartest person in
the room is. But what are you going to do
with that information? You know, just five years ago, I'm
sure we all had experiences where we're talking to people
about businesses shutting down and what they want to put
in our bodies. And everybody had a choice to make
(09:54):
on their own in private, and nobody was looking. And
what did they do? Did they use the information or
were they trying to be the smartest person in the room.
But in reality, they cracked and they succumbed and they
took it. That's that's what we're talking about. That's what
we're talking about when it comes to information. That's when
(10:15):
it comes to sharing information. It's not enough to know
something you and plus, look, we're Americans, and as Americans,
we need our information packaged in a form that is
it's not as doom and gloom as going to a
fire and Bridgstone Preacher. You know, we want it sold
(10:36):
to this Let's be honest, whether it's in a TV show,
a movie, you know, or even a set of cards.
You know, we're that's what we do, and it's it
shouldn't be depressing, it shouldn't be sad because we can't
we can't change it. But awareness and a fun way
(10:57):
of awareness. I think is the best way to reach
this generation. We have all the tools, so take advantage
of them.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
In us as creators and almost as gatekeepers, should open
the floods of those gates or the gates of those floods.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know what I'm trying to say, Guess you can't.
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And I'm a freaking put this out because something just
happened privately, and people that listen to the show, that
know in private chats, they're gonna know what I'm about
to say. It doesn't matter who you have on your show,
doesn't matter when you started it. Show, doesn't matter who
does it last or who does it first. It matters
who does it best. So the point of you having
(11:42):
someone on the show is to get other people to
get that person on the show so that the message
can be spread, not so you can be king in gatekeep.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's retarded that people that do that. That just happened.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It happens all the time. It happens with podcasters all
the freaking time in the same community. In some of
my closes, the closest alliances have done that to me.
Shut the fuck door, bro, And it doesn't matter you
copy or not, or it seems like you're being copied. Bro,
even if you were being copied, you should be flattered.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You should be honest about your inspiration. Be honest about it.
I mean, I if there's no shame, there's there's no
shame at all in saying, hey, you know, so and
so inspired me to do this, but I want to
do it in a different way. Oh, there's no shame
in that. Give people credit, build people up. That's how
you shoin forces.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You think you think you were the first conspiracy theory
card game a card collecting that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
No, but you came and you're doing it better. Doesn't
mean you copied anybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Man, You know, it's it's those like those quiet hours
where you see your own words. You know. I like,
I do photo and video production, and I cannot look
at things I've made at your ago. I can't because
I see all the warts, I see all the flaws.
And it's but you've got to get past that. You
have to realize that. You know. It's kind of like
(13:10):
when I tell my son and other members of my family,
like what, you may not be the best at fixing
a car, but if you're the only one in the
garage that knows anything about repairing that car. That you
are the expert. Okay, and you can apply that in
pretty much anything that you're interested in. But you the
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key is is that you have to have a hate
I hate the word passion. You have to have an
innate drive to want to do it when nobody's looking,
when you have that free space of time, you might
be tired, you want to take a nap, but that
that that urge to get that idea out of your head.
It propels you to stay away. And you're doing it
(13:52):
just from your own natural energy.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Natural energy, talking about all natural energy, something natural that
you're really good at. It's putting out this freaking content
and putting it on the freaking screen. I want you
to pull out one of those cards, go and talk
to me. You know what that last time that's promoting cards.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'll tell you what I can do is let me
pull up a let me pull up the screen share
here of a couple of previews. Series two is ready
to go and here's over growth. Okay, so this is
a key card that's in series two and Cloward and
(14:33):
Pivot are duo that researched how to crash the welfare system,
and they wrote several books that the answer for a
true change in the homeless situation was to put so
many people on welfare that it crashes the entire system.
(14:54):
And this is known as the Cloward and Pivot strategy.
And the people today are being incentivized to get on
the dole and have other people pay for their problems.
And this isn't by accident, this is deliberate. One of
the key aspects of these cards that I always want
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people to realize is that this is foundational knowledge, aimed
at teenagers, aimed at young twenty somethings. Most people that
get these cards that are like us are going to
flip through them and go, oh okay, yeah, I know
about that. I know about that. But that's not the audience.
The audience is for of those Pokemon collectives, for those
sports card doors that just have to go ahead and
(15:35):
have their collecting fix, and they never bother reading the news.
And I totally screwed up my slides show hold on
a second. So one thing I want to point out
is how this is actually affecting people in my own life.
(15:58):
My son and I aren't interested in science, of course,
and one of the things that comes up is animal research.
And I think some of your audience might be familiar
with the monkey research study by a man named Harry
(16:23):
Harlowe students, Okay, and it's coming up. This is in
on the slide shows. Now I'll quit trying to mess
with it, because this is hard to do with one
h Okay. So there was a scientist named Harry Harlow,
(16:50):
and what he did is he wanted to see if
he could affect the way the cat monkeys loved a mother.
And so this sick guy, I would get hammered at
bars that come up with these twisted ideas where he
would remove babies from their mothers, and in place he
would put the body of a fake monkey motor that
(17:13):
she was covered in wire and hard to touch. And
you have another one that was padded with soft fabric,
and the monkeys would bond to that mother. And then
he would scare the young monkeys with all kinds of devices,
and then he would torture them and they would run
instinctively back to the soft mother. Now, later these same
(17:34):
young macaques would have children of their own and either
kill their children neglect them and just be overall bad parents. Now,
that is an important concept. And I put that in
a card because the other day my son was going
through his old childcraft books. I don't know if you
(17:56):
ever seen childcraft books, but the kind of like little
small encyclopedias with simple, little educational topics. And he was
flipping through it because we're going to get rid of
some old stuff in his bedroom. And he says, hey, man,
check this out. And so he flips over to a
page in his book and what is there. It is
(18:16):
a picture of Harry Harlow. And if you can see that,
there is the softer mother with the baby monkey attached
to it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Get the front door, man, Oh oh god.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah. And the caption is very intriguing. It says, the
things doctor Harry Harlow has learned about baby monkeys may
help us find better ways of raising human babies. You
get that, human babies. This is not about researching monkeys.
This is about affecting human behavior. And this daddum book
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does not tell children what a twisted, drunk, torturing lunatic
this guy was. Okay, And That's what I'm trying to
get across is that new school has been lying to you.
Literature is lying to you if they're leaving out the
important details about things like animal research. It's not about
the animals, it's about testing it on human beings. I
(19:12):
hope that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Everything you are the product tap into everything that you consume.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
They do it on frequency.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They do frequency studies on animals before they do it
on you, to perfect it so that you don't find
out and then fight them back.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's right, and so that actually every series has got
like nine ultra rare cards, and in series two, all
the ultra rare cards are going to be about behavioral
studies and psychological experiments that have been performed on the
American public. And that to me, like I said earlier,
(19:52):
is foundation. That is what people need to That is
what people need to understand when it comes to this
level of research. A couple of a couple of years ago,
Facebook did that experiment where they they flooded their Facebook
pages with negative stories and they were able to track
(20:16):
who was sharing these stories, and they could determine that
the stories that was shared by these folks were actually
influencing others. And so it creates this sort of victim
mentality and one of the multiple air Cards explores that concept.
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Now I do all the artwork. I'm mainly a I mean,
most of my stuff is either photography I've done myself
or a bunch of collage work. But I'm some of
these subjects I don't know if I feel comfortable showing
to you because they are Series two is going to
make the people really upset because we're crossing into some
(20:58):
dangerous characory.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Are here to fu shut up?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's the game. Everybody who I'll tell you what, I'll
go make a special deal here. So it's gonna be
easy to find. So if anybody out there is going
to order a pre order a box the Series two,
all you need to do is in the notes section
at Paranoid Radio, and I'll give you three extra fullbacks
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when the printing is done.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Oh okay, this is exclusive.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I love you. Yeah. Now they're not printed yet, but
once you pre order, you're on the list, and all
the updates are going to come through. And I am
pushing and pushing and pushing. In fact, every weekend in
June and most of July, my son and I are
going to be out there hustling at card shows, gun shows,
sports shows, book shows, trying to sell these things, and
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so far the response has been really good, and it's
it's difficult because, like I've told other people, it's kind
of like selling cat food at a dog show and
people kind of look at your funny But you know,
it's it is refreshing because I get to find out
why people get this kind of why people get into
hobbies like sports cards. I ask them, I'm like, why
(22:18):
do you collect? Because I want to know? And what
I hear most often is well, they they want to
make money. They they're chasing like the super ultra rare.
You know Patrick mahomes Prism card, there's only twenty four
in the nation. Okay, Well, what happens if he breaks
his leg next year and he's no longer popular? What
(22:42):
what happened to your investment? What happened to your codor?
Why are you interested? Is it because you actually like
the guy? Is there story type on it? I mean,
don't get me wrong, there are certain cards and subjects
I've collected over the years, but they were tied to
a story. It wasn't for some mindless chase, if that
makes sense. I think those things keep as children until
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we're well into adulthood. It makes us kind of like,
you know, by the time we're fifty, we sound like
you know, little boys. We don't have anything interesting to
talk about. We don't have any basic knowledge about our history.
I'm kind of rambled over them.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, but you are absolutely right, just because, first of all,
remember what I told you. It is a very very
very good time to get into the conspiracy game. And
also if you ever thought about podcasting, this is the
time to do it because gets what get Just guess
(23:42):
what's mainstream right now, even if it's controlled or not podcasting,
it's just what it is. And the little niche and
the category of conspiracy theory, culture, governmental conversations, it's in.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We are the mainstream media. So I need you guys
to dive dip deep. What is that? Dive deep into that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm actually what I have. Yeah, I've got some major,
major prints. I'm making large prints of some of my
uh more. These are these are cards from series one
that have blown up and made into eight x ten plants.
And these are all photos that I've shot and edited
just for cards. A little hard to see on camera.
Oh man, I'll lost my life. Check it out?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Have you have you had the opportunity to put this
US posters.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm working on that, but I mean it's I'm a
one man operation. I'm growing in I'm not growing in leaps.
I'm growing in hops, okay. But like what I want
to get across is there there there is There's another
topic that I think this might apply to podcasting, This
might apply to you know, obviously what I'm doing, but
(25:04):
the idea of selling yourself, you know. I mean, look,
I'm in the eighties. You know everybody was complaining about
people selling out, like your favorite bands or your your
favorite artists selling out. Well, the reality is that we
all sell out, okay, but we usually sell out in
(25:26):
the form of, you know, getting that job at Best
Buy or you know, working at mcdon's, you know, where
you're selling somebody else's slot. I guess what I want
to impart to anybody that cares about doing their own
thing is you you need you still need to sell yourself.
(25:47):
And part of that, part of that mindset is that
you have to be your biggest fan. You have to
really really be energetic, whether it's your show, whether it's
your music, whether it's your channel, whether it's you know,
the artwork you make or even like the you know,
maybe you make custom motorcycles, but you have to be
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your biggest fan. If you're not, then the people that
you're trying to reach are going to know that. They're
going to know that you don't care about your own work.
Does that make sense? It's and I would. I would
stand behind anything that I make that I'm that I
(26:29):
want other people to enjoy and share. That's why I
like every one of these that I'm making. This is
one there. You know, I've also gone ahead and made
a print to go along with it, where it shows
off the backs of all three versions of the cards.
That way, you've got a nice collectible, high quality, glossy
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somebody set to go along with every single print. Now
I'm doing this because I've paid it attention. When I
go to these card shows and when you just have
a box of cards on your table, people take a
brick look and then they walk away. Well, one of
the tricks that you need to do in anything is
(27:14):
give people some people look at, give people a reason
to hang around. And so if you have more stuff,
then it gives people the reason to look longer and
strength of conversations. Now, look, I'm not saying that you
shop at Bath and Bodyworks. Okay, but I know you've
walked by a Bath and body works. Okay, have you
ever gone inside? Okay, I notice there's a lot of
(27:37):
people inside there, right, Why do they go inside? They
go inside because they get to smell and they get
to spring on free samples, and it draws a crowd.
And that's what they're selling. They're selling that experience. They're
not selling perfect they're not selling silk. We're selling We're
(27:59):
selling an experience for people to walk in and smell,
you know, exotic favorites and draws a crowd. There's a
lesson in that. There used to be in Alard malls.
There used to be a place where men would make
big batches of fudge. And it wasn't in the back
(28:21):
of a kitchen. They moved the kitchen to the front
of the store, and it drew a crowd because you
get to see these guys with big paddles making huge
piles at fudge. That sounds gross, but they would tell
stories and make people laugh and it drew a crowd. Okay.
So the lesson in that is you need to think
of a way to draw a crowd. When I can
(28:43):
go take photo and video for a client. My best
advertisement is when I'm out there actually doing it. People
approach me, they ask for my card. I can advertise
on the Internet. I can do all kinds of attempts
at advertising and I don't get any response. But if
I'm out there in the world showing off what I do,
(29:05):
that's my biggest advertise. And I think that's true with everybody.
Does that make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You dropping bombs star?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I am glad we didn't postpone the episode regardless, fucked
up your soundies.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sorry, sorry, just fucking teasing you. But I will give
people a little bit of a secret though. Okay, So
one of the things I also like to do is
I get I go to antique malls, and I go
to all kinds of weird used Reselle shops and I
(29:43):
look for old roles of eight milimeter film or even
film slides. And so this particular image is going to
be a series two and it's all about the Panopticon.
Would you believe me if I told you? Would you
believe me if I told you that this was on
somebody's own slide thirty five millimeter print that they just
(30:03):
abandoned in a resale shop. No, yeah, what I said,
I'm like, well, thank you very much, I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I mean, I mean, what is theon Well, the panopticon
is a concept by a man named Jeremy Bentham, and
he came up with the idea of the perfect prison.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And you've probably seen it expressed in movies and TV shows.
But it's a simple design where you have a giant,
huge guard tower in the middle of a bunch of
circular prison cells, and you make the top of the
guard tower tall enough to where nobody can actually see
the top of the guard tower. Now, what this does
(30:51):
is it creates a psychological effect where the prisoners always
feel like they're being watched, and so they behave according
they don't violate rules, and they even police each other
for fear of being seen by the invisible guard. Now,
there have been actual panopticon prisons built. I believe there
(31:16):
was one in New Jersey. I think that was reopened
to take in COVID patients for quarantine. But there have
been actual pentopticon prisons built. And it's a terrifying concept,
especially if you put it in context of the digital age,
where everything's being washed reported despite on but you know that,
(31:43):
and then we're going to talk about the awful wars
that we've been in. This is an actual I actually
designed my own label for a can of worms, because
if you know anything about the mess in Syria, then
you know that the United States government actually created ISIS
and funded their assault on Syria that deposed the sheer
(32:07):
al saide. M hmm. It's kenon Ns and it's our fault.
We did it, so it I mean, I don't have
to explain the humor behind it. But these are all
these are all photos, these are all concepts that I'm designing,
and it's really boring and tiring, okay to have to
(32:30):
explain every one of them.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
But I have I have a question for you, and
maybe you already have a card for this. I know
you know about Project Northwoods, right.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, that was the very first card I ever made
for Series one.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay, did you mention the snakes in a plane?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
No, no snakes on a plane? That one. I'm not
going to say it's my my best design, but you
have it. Yeah. I'm just trying to find the actual
design and if you just give you a minute, I
can pull it up. It's yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's a while. Not a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You'll be surprised of the people that know about the
snakes and the plane little incident and how they were
they plan to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
That was something blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, the problem with Northwoods is that even back then
this was written. This is written during the Kennedy administration,
and even then they were talking about remote controled aircraft.
So that gives you an idea of the technology back then.
So the danger is that, like one thing I'm going
to tell anybody listening is now, didn't hear a previous conversation,
(33:36):
is that I'm not delving into like Bigfoot or aliens
or anything like that. But next door neighbors to that
are the crack pots that want to talk about, you know,
particle weapons during nine to eleven. Okay, come on, man,
that's that makes everybody look crazy. That's not what happened.
And everybody's so focused on details of how something happened
(34:00):
or you know, whether it was real, when they don't
really focus on why it happened or who made it happen.
Those are the Those are the answers, aren't after that
I'm trying to put in a form of card. So
I'm not gonna I mean that there's gonna be some
information on like maybe Kennedy and what happened on September eleventh,
(34:24):
but it's going to be stuff that is actually proven,
like the the truck, like the moving bands that actually
had explosives in them, and the and the New York
Police pulled them over and found explosives in a truck
that was going to be part of the basement. Mh.
I mean that that's that really happened, you know, forget
(34:47):
forget whether or not the plane hit the Pentagon. I mean,
there's a plane hit the Pentagon, all right, and it's
so I guess what I'm trying to say is the
h the realm of speculation is never going to be entered.
When I may get parted. I want people to see
(35:08):
something and go, holy crap, I need to look into this.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I like the fact that you said that because.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
People run wild in this type of town. I'm believing
we're paranoid over here, and I get it. Everything is
I like to say, everything is a conspiracy, and again
just living simulation is a conspiracy. And I'm a god
fearing man, and I know there's a creator, and I
know his name is Jesus, but even him letting me
(35:36):
run around this world simulating my life is a fucking simulation.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm just saying, guys, everything is like conspiracy theory within
all that, all that mess and the cloud. We like
to say, we like to focus in.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
The wow factor.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We like to focus on directing agy weapons, self demlestion.
Look hard, the plane never hit. It was a hall
of Project blue Bean. Wait, wait, shut the front door.
Even Let's just let's just say that what's it called
holograms exist Star Wars stuff? Right, Let's just say, don't
(36:13):
focus on what type of energy or weapon that is.
Focus on when did they start building it?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Why did they build it?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
You see what I'm saying, based on tangible, historical findable
resources and literature. That's what I like to say. That's
why we always say hashtag.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Look it up.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
The root of that is go look it up, and
don't just look at.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
The lasers coming from the sky and burning and starting
fires in California.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
It's not just about that Ooh north Woods document. I
love when he does that.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I'm surprised you don't have any little minions out here
just getting railed in a butt.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And yeah, well I don't have any news articles ready
to pull up. That's my default when I'm when I'm
talking about current news, we're documents. I'm I've got some
hair raising documents that I but they're buried. I'll tell
you what currently though, I've been really fascinated with the
P two Vatican connection in the nineteen seventies and eighties.
(37:15):
If you want topics for days, look into that. But
that's I'm also looking for fodder for series three. I've
already I've already started designing that. I've got at least
eight hundred topics that I can dive into, each with
(37:36):
folders each with both chapters and page numbers in my library.
And it's it's going to happen. But we you know,
it's you know, like I said, I'm not getting there
by leaps, I'm getting there by hops.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I love it. I love it. Plunder World, James, let
them know where they can find you one more time.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So you can find name on the world dot Com.
I'm very easy to find on Instagram underworld cards. We
can see dates for shows that I'm doing, are appearing at.
And sometimes you know when I'm in the design phase.
I always try to throw up new artwork and I
(38:20):
need feedback. I crave feed that and I can't. I
can't thank the people that have already pre ordered and
bought series one enough. It's it's only because people like
it that I'll keep doing it, and it's only going
to get better. Series two actually has guest artists. I've
got five talented artists to supply artwork for five cards
(38:45):
and series two, and I want to grow that too.
I want to get more people on board. I think
it's a great way to collaborate and just see what
and see what comes out of other people's heads. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Make sure you check them out. Can I say, can
I use the name plunder World two for the name
of this episode?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Do whatever you want? You show?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, but it's your name. I just want to make
sure I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
To promote the show and promote the cards the most importantly, guys,
promote the information. Don't don't sleep on this, Guys, don't
don't sleep on it. Shout outs to Tamera Tamra t
level Plane poem. She has your Thing, Your Your Your
your Series one in a freaking book, and she was
(39:32):
showing me like she put her on a camera and
she's like, yo, I am collecting all of us, so
if you have she's looking for the red ones. And
then she goes, if you have the other colors, I
need them right now. So I'm like, all right, bro,
Like he he hits somebody, there's a home run there.
I could only imagine who else is doing it. So
mad love, mad respect for what you do, I bro,
not only because you shipped ship Grace and you're you
(39:54):
spend your time here today, but also because you're on
a freaking mission and I respect the hard work you got. Heart,
mad love and respect again. Make sure you check him
out under World on Instagram, Underworld dot com. He's going
to be in the description of the show. Check out
check us out a parent radio dot com, drop a five,
serving up a podcast on Spotify because that allows other
people to enjoy the show as much as I enjoy
making it.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Peace Radio
Just while we're hot and bothered. Guys, do not do not.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Scroll away, leave a like, leave a subscribe. I don't
know whether things are gonna I'm just fucking pointing, pointless,
all right, guys, but check out plunder World. Because we
spoke Northwoods, we spoke Kennedy, we spoke.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
When else it was speaking. Bro hit him, bro hit him,
hit him, hit him.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, I'm all about inspiring people. So if you're looking
for just boots on the ground, inspiration to grow by
hops not leaps, then pay attention. I'm full of advice.
You can reach me anywhere, and I will try my
best to inspire you because that's my goal.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Boom oh yeah, that's fucking awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Kiss keep a simple, stupid.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Promise you it's.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Jump. Send up, send turn radio, Send up the move
turn radio.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Sit go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right. So once there was a man who bought
a bicycle, and then that bicycle fell apart because he
bought it at Walmart. Let's see how that sounds.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Walmart bicycles all the freaking best bicycles. Bro, Come on, mongols,
you can fight mungos a freaking wally world.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, and then they apart after two months.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Rig bro, I don't. I don't even want to.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm not gonna bullsh it you to me. I've had
bad quality sound before. But if that's that's what, I'm
okay with that. Do you want to sound okay?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm okay with that. As long as you can hear
me and people can hear me, I'm fine that well,
then testicles.
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Want two testicles. Welcome back to Perner Radio Podcast.
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Listen, gentlemen, boys and girls, I am trouble your humble host,
and there's gonna be a quick one. Every episode is amazing.
I'm not not just saying that because I'm I'm just
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Please give a one walk home to my special guest.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It is James from Underworld. What's up, James.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hey, I'm doing just fine. Thanks for having me on
again at a glass last time. And I always like
talking to people. I mean, it were separated by two hours,
but it feels like you're next door.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I like it. I like it. Your audio fucking stinks,
but I like you, so it's all good.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's the only thing that stinks. I just took a shower.
I feel great.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I have it, bro. I'm an talk on the right now.
This is my second episode today.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I went to work for it hours, came back recorded,
and then got some more water and came back and
recorded with you. So we are non stop and sticky butt.
People might call that sweatballs. That the sweatballs.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm a designer, I'm not an audio guy, so forgive
me my boy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Rico from Talking to Wooster's podcast says he always comes
on the show with bad audio. But he comes on
the show dressed as an emoji and he is the
only Mexican, Canadian gay jew that I know.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
That's a complicated MATHA think.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
About that, I know, complicated fucking math.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And then that's his emoji character and he wants to
coin and buy the domain name for this website called
no Skin in the Game, No Skin in the Game
dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I no skinn.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, one of them circumcised fellas.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh yeah yeah, blunder World. Let them know what they
can find you by.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You can always find me at punderworld dot com. Instagram
is a great place to see artwork I throw up
and believe it or not, I am on tour. I
am taking my cards to all kinds of shows because
you've got to meet the public. And I've learned quite
a bit about sales. You know, you got to. It's
(05:28):
one thing to hide behind computer, but when you're out
there shucking and jiving, doing your dance, saying your routine
to people that are after sports cards at Pokemon, it's
a completely different crowd and they look at you funny.
But I still manage to get people to stop and
pay attention and then the sales have been good because
(05:51):
the big push right now is to get series two
printed and every single sale goes to the production cost.
And I mean it's really interesting, folks.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know what, I'm gonna be honest with you. That's
the hard work that's going to make you blow up.
Same thing with the podcast game as first of all.
Second of all, I.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Mean, let me go back real quick.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
There's never been the most important time of our life
in this generation to speak about conspiracy theories and right now,
So for you to do this, you know, you're really
ahead of the curve and prime timing. And then second,
even for me, Bro, I'm a brown podcaster that lacks conspiracies. Okay,
(06:37):
x meth head ex alcoholic right with a beaner accent? Okay, Bro,
like people, I look like a fucking solo. You see
what I'm saying here?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's you fit in at Houston just fine.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
In lad too. I mean, I get it, but it's
not about the fitting in.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I want to be the most impactful podcaster in a
freaking planning and I'm on my way there, but god,
it takes I have to put in triple the work.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Then people that have been associated on network better, you know.
So it's just it's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, you got to work hard, and that's the and
that that's the secret sauce. All those nights you spend
by yourself tweaking a camera, you know, researching a new program,
those silent hours nobody ever sees, but those are the
silent hours that turn you into somebody that's buried your
demons and inspired others to say hi and reach out
(07:30):
and gain the confidence to put their face on camera.
You know that. It's those silent moments you spend with
your family instead of with the boys. It's those the
The person you are when nobody is looking is who
you really are, and if you're able to share that,
then you're getting somewhere. It doesn't have to be like
(07:50):
earth shattering. Victory is a victory, it doesn't matter who
it's with.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I use the show and now that I'm sober to
keep myself accountable and see my transformation from the inside out,
the more I record as I survive every single day
without using or drinking.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And it's not hard, it's not easy. I mean, I'm sorry,
and I've put that post out about talking about what
is it? What are you doing. Forget about it. What
are you doing when no one's watching.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
When no one's listening, when it was reciprocating your energy,
when no one's watching, what are you doing? Those are
the moments where you're character building your character? Are you spectating,
are you creating?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And are you building something? Or are you just breaking
everything down so destroying yourself and everybody around you?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
When you get into this dark news, I mean, I
don't I don't call it conspiracy anymore. It's it's just
a buzzword. It's sensational. It gets people interested right out
of date. But truth is it's squishy because truth is
monopolized nowadays for people that want to control a narrative
(09:10):
or steer a certain part of the population. And it's
in those moments where people reach for their addictions because
they're too scared to deal with that information. So you
have two examples. You can hear some sensational news and
you can sit around with your boys and get ripped
up and say, yo, did you hear about this? Oh yeah, Okay.
(09:33):
That doesn't get you anywhere. All it does is it
turns into a competition of who the smartest person in
the room is. But what are you going to do
with that information? You know, just five years ago, I'm
sure we all had experiences where we're talking to people
about businesses shutting down and what they want to put
in our bodies. And everybody had a choice to make
(09:54):
on their own in private, and nobody was looking. And
what did they do? Did they use the information or
were they trying to be the smartest person in the room.
But in reality, they cracked and they succumbed and they
took it. That's that's what we're talking about. That's what
we're talking about when it comes to information. That's when
(10:15):
it comes to sharing information. It's not enough to know
something you and plus, look, we're Americans, and as Americans,
we need our information packaged in a form that is
it's not as doom and gloom as going to a
fire and Bridgstone Preacher. You know, we want it sold
(10:36):
to this Let's be honest, whether it's in a TV show,
a movie, you know, or even a set of cards.
You know, we're that's what we do, and it's it
shouldn't be depressing, it shouldn't be sad because we can't
we can't change it. But awareness and a fun way
(10:57):
of awareness. I think is the best way to reach
this generation. We have all the tools, so take advantage
of them.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
In us as creators and almost as gatekeepers, should open
the floods of those gates or the gates of those floods.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know what I'm trying to say, Guess you can't.
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And I'm a freaking put this out because something just
happened privately, and people that listen to the show, that
know in private chats, they're gonna know what I'm about
to say. It doesn't matter who you have on your show,
doesn't matter when you started it. Show, doesn't matter who
does it last or who does it first. It matters
who does it best. So the point of you having
(11:42):
someone on the show is to get other people to
get that person on the show so that the message
can be spread, not so you can be king in gatekeep.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's retarded that people that do that. That just happened.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It happens all the time. It happens with podcasters all
the freaking time in the same community. In some of
my closes, the closest alliances have done that to me.
Shut the fuck door, bro, And it doesn't matter you
copy or not, or it seems like you're being copied. Bro,
even if you were being copied, you should be flattered.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You should be honest about your inspiration. Be honest about it.
I mean, I if there's no shame, there's there's no
shame at all in saying, hey, you know, so and
so inspired me to do this, but I want to
do it in a different way. Oh, there's no shame
in that. Give people credit, build people up. That's how
you shoin forces.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You think you think you were the first conspiracy theory
card game a card collecting that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
No, but you came and you're doing it better. Doesn't
mean you copied anybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Man, You know, it's it's those like those quiet hours
where you see your own words. You know. I like,
I do photo and video production, and I cannot look
at things I've made at your ago. I can't because
I see all the warts, I see all the flaws.
And it's but you've got to get past that. You
have to realize that. You know. It's kind of like
(13:10):
when I tell my son and other members of my family,
like what, you may not be the best at fixing
a car, but if you're the only one in the
garage that knows anything about repairing that car. That you
are the expert. Okay, and you can apply that in
pretty much anything that you're interested in. But you the
(13:30):
key is is that you have to have a hate
I hate the word passion. You have to have an
innate drive to want to do it when nobody's looking,
when you have that free space of time, you might
be tired, you want to take a nap, but that
that that urge to get that idea out of your head.
It propels you to stay away. And you're doing it
(13:52):
just from your own natural energy.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Natural energy, talking about all natural energy, something natural that
you're really good at. It's putting out this freaking content
and putting it on the freaking screen. I want you
to pull out one of those cards, go and talk
to me. You know what that last time that's promoting cards.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'll tell you what I can do is let me
pull up a let me pull up the screen share
here of a couple of previews. Series two is ready
to go and here's over growth. Okay, so this is
a key card that's in series two and Cloward and
(14:33):
Pivot are duo that researched how to crash the welfare system,
and they wrote several books that the answer for a
true change in the homeless situation was to put so
many people on welfare that it crashes the entire system.
(14:54):
And this is known as the Cloward and Pivot strategy.
And the people today are being incentivized to get on
the dole and have other people pay for their problems.
And this isn't by accident, this is deliberate. One of
the key aspects of these cards that I always want
(15:15):
people to realize is that this is foundational knowledge, aimed
at teenagers, aimed at young twenty somethings. Most people that
get these cards that are like us are going to
flip through them and go, oh okay, yeah, I know
about that. I know about that. But that's not the audience.
The audience is for of those Pokemon collectives, for those
sports card doors that just have to go ahead and
(15:35):
have their collecting fix, and they never bother reading the news.
And I totally screwed up my slides show hold on
a second. So one thing I want to point out
is how this is actually affecting people in my own life.
(15:58):
My son and I aren't interested in science, of course,
and one of the things that comes up is animal research.
And I think some of your audience might be familiar
with the monkey research study by a man named Harry
(16:23):
Harlowe students, Okay, and it's coming up. This is in
on the slide shows. Now I'll quit trying to mess
with it, because this is hard to do with one
h Okay. So there was a scientist named Harry Harlow,
(16:50):
and what he did is he wanted to see if
he could affect the way the cat monkeys loved a mother.
And so this sick guy, I would get hammered at
bars that come up with these twisted ideas where he
would remove babies from their mothers, and in place he
would put the body of a fake monkey motor that
(17:13):
she was covered in wire and hard to touch. And
you have another one that was padded with soft fabric,
and the monkeys would bond to that mother. And then
he would scare the young monkeys with all kinds of devices,
and then he would torture them and they would run
instinctively back to the soft mother. Now, later these same
(17:34):
young macaques would have children of their own and either
kill their children neglect them and just be overall bad parents. Now,
that is an important concept. And I put that in
a card because the other day my son was going
through his old childcraft books. I don't know if you
(17:56):
ever seen childcraft books, but the kind of like little
small encyclopedias with simple, little educational topics. And he was
flipping through it because we're going to get rid of
some old stuff in his bedroom. And he says, hey, man,
check this out. And so he flips over to a
page in his book and what is there. It is
(18:16):
a picture of Harry Harlow. And if you can see that,
there is the softer mother with the baby monkey attached
to it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Get the front door, man, Oh oh god.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah. And the caption is very intriguing. It says, the
things doctor Harry Harlow has learned about baby monkeys may
help us find better ways of raising human babies. You
get that, human babies. This is not about researching monkeys.
This is about affecting human behavior. And this daddum book
(18:47):
does not tell children what a twisted, drunk, torturing lunatic
this guy was. Okay, And That's what I'm trying to
get across is that new school has been lying to you.
Literature is lying to you if they're leaving out the
important details about things like animal research. It's not about
the animals, it's about testing it on human beings. I
(19:12):
hope that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Everything you are the product tap into everything that you consume.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
They do it on frequency.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They do frequency studies on animals before they do it
on you, to perfect it so that you don't find
out and then fight them back.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's right, and so that actually every series has got
like nine ultra rare cards, and in series two, all
the ultra rare cards are going to be about behavioral
studies and psychological experiments that have been performed on the
American public. And that to me, like I said earlier,
(19:52):
is foundation. That is what people need to That is
what people need to understand when it comes to this
level of research. A couple of a couple of years ago,
Facebook did that experiment where they they flooded their Facebook
pages with negative stories and they were able to track
(20:16):
who was sharing these stories, and they could determine that
the stories that was shared by these folks were actually
influencing others. And so it creates this sort of victim
mentality and one of the multiple air Cards explores that concept.
(20:37):
Now I do all the artwork. I'm mainly a I mean,
most of my stuff is either photography I've done myself
or a bunch of collage work. But I'm some of
these subjects I don't know if I feel comfortable showing
to you because they are Series two is going to
make the people really upset because we're crossing into some
(20:58):
dangerous characory.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Are here to fu shut up?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's the game. Everybody who I'll tell you what, I'll
go make a special deal here. So it's gonna be
easy to find. So if anybody out there is going
to order a pre order a box the Series two,
all you need to do is in the notes section
at Paranoid Radio, and I'll give you three extra fullbacks
(21:27):
when the printing is done.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Oh okay, this is exclusive.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I love you. Yeah. Now they're not printed yet, but
once you pre order, you're on the list, and all
the updates are going to come through. And I am
pushing and pushing and pushing. In fact, every weekend in
June and most of July, my son and I are
going to be out there hustling at card shows, gun shows,
sports shows, book shows, trying to sell these things, and
(21:56):
so far the response has been really good, and it's
it's difficult because, like I've told other people, it's kind
of like selling cat food at a dog show and
people kind of look at your funny But you know,
it's it is refreshing because I get to find out
why people get this kind of why people get into
hobbies like sports cards. I ask them, I'm like, why
(22:18):
do you collect? Because I want to know? And what
I hear most often is well, they they want to
make money. They they're chasing like the super ultra rare.
You know Patrick mahomes Prism card, there's only twenty four
in the nation. Okay, Well, what happens if he breaks
his leg next year and he's no longer popular? What
(22:42):
what happened to your investment? What happened to your codor?
Why are you interested? Is it because you actually like
the guy? Is there story type on it? I mean,
don't get me wrong, there are certain cards and subjects
I've collected over the years, but they were tied to
a story. It wasn't for some mindless chase, if that
makes sense. I think those things keep as children until
(23:05):
we're well into adulthood. It makes us kind of like,
you know, by the time we're fifty, we sound like
you know, little boys. We don't have anything interesting to
talk about. We don't have any basic knowledge about our history.
I'm kind of rambled over them.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, but you are absolutely right, just because, first of all,
remember what I told you. It is a very very
very good time to get into the conspiracy game. And
also if you ever thought about podcasting, this is the
time to do it because gets what get Just guess
(23:42):
what's mainstream right now, even if it's controlled or not podcasting,
it's just what it is. And the little niche and
the category of conspiracy theory, culture, governmental conversations, it's in.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We are the mainstream media. So I need you guys
to dive dip deep. What is that? Dive deep into that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm actually what I have. Yeah, I've got some major,
major prints. I'm making large prints of some of my
uh more. These are these are cards from series one
that have blown up and made into eight x ten plants.
And these are all photos that I've shot and edited
just for cards. A little hard to see on camera.
Oh man, I'll lost my life. Check it out?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Have you have you had the opportunity to put this
US posters.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm working on that, but I mean it's I'm a
one man operation. I'm growing in I'm not growing in leaps.
I'm growing in hops, okay. But like what I want
to get across is there there there is There's another
topic that I think this might apply to podcasting, This
might apply to you know, obviously what I'm doing, but
(25:04):
the idea of selling yourself, you know. I mean, look,
I'm in the eighties. You know everybody was complaining about
people selling out, like your favorite bands or your your
favorite artists selling out. Well, the reality is that we
all sell out, okay, but we usually sell out in
(25:26):
the form of, you know, getting that job at Best
Buy or you know, working at mcdon's, you know, where
you're selling somebody else's slot. I guess what I want
to impart to anybody that cares about doing their own
thing is you you need you still need to sell yourself.
(25:47):
And part of that, part of that mindset is that
you have to be your biggest fan. You have to
really really be energetic, whether it's your show, whether it's
your music, whether it's your channel, whether it's you know,
the artwork you make or even like the you know,
maybe you make custom motorcycles, but you have to be
(26:07):
your biggest fan. If you're not, then the people that
you're trying to reach are going to know that. They're
going to know that you don't care about your own work.
Does that make sense? It's and I would. I would
stand behind anything that I make that I'm that I
(26:29):
want other people to enjoy and share. That's why I
like every one of these that I'm making. This is
one there. You know, I've also gone ahead and made
a print to go along with it, where it shows
off the backs of all three versions of the cards.
That way, you've got a nice collectible, high quality, glossy
(26:52):
somebody set to go along with every single print. Now
I'm doing this because I've paid it attention. When I
go to these card shows and when you just have
a box of cards on your table, people take a
brick look and then they walk away. Well, one of
the tricks that you need to do in anything is
(27:14):
give people some people look at, give people a reason
to hang around. And so if you have more stuff,
then it gives people the reason to look longer and
strength of conversations. Now, look, I'm not saying that you
shop at Bath and Bodyworks. Okay, but I know you've
walked by a Bath and body works. Okay, have you
ever gone inside? Okay, I notice there's a lot of
(27:37):
people inside there, right, Why do they go inside? They
go inside because they get to smell and they get
to spring on free samples, and it draws a crowd.
And that's what they're selling. They're selling that experience. They're
not selling perfect they're not selling silk. We're selling We're
(27:59):
selling an experience for people to walk in and smell,
you know, exotic favorites and draws a crowd. There's a
lesson in that. There used to be in Alard malls.
There used to be a place where men would make
big batches of fudge. And it wasn't in the back
(28:21):
of a kitchen. They moved the kitchen to the front
of the store, and it drew a crowd because you
get to see these guys with big paddles making huge
piles at fudge. That sounds gross, but they would tell
stories and make people laugh and it drew a crowd. Okay.
So the lesson in that is you need to think
of a way to draw a crowd. When I can
(28:43):
go take photo and video for a client. My best
advertisement is when I'm out there actually doing it. People
approach me, they ask for my card. I can advertise
on the Internet. I can do all kinds of attempts
at advertising and I don't get any response. But if
I'm out there in the world showing off what I do,
(29:05):
that's my biggest advertise. And I think that's true with everybody.
Does that make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You dropping bombs star?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I am glad we didn't postpone the episode regardless, fucked
up your soundies.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sorry, sorry, just fucking teasing you. But I will give
people a little bit of a secret though. Okay, So
one of the things I also like to do is
I get I go to antique malls, and I go
to all kinds of weird used Reselle shops and I
(29:43):
look for old roles of eight milimeter film or even
film slides. And so this particular image is going to
be a series two and it's all about the Panopticon.
Would you believe me if I told you? Would you
believe me if I told you that this was on
somebody's own slide thirty five millimeter print that they just
(30:03):
abandoned in a resale shop. No, yeah, what I said,
I'm like, well, thank you very much, I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I mean, I mean, what is theon Well, the panopticon
is a concept by a man named Jeremy Bentham, and
he came up with the idea of the perfect prison.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And you've probably seen it expressed in movies and TV shows.
But it's a simple design where you have a giant,
huge guard tower in the middle of a bunch of
circular prison cells, and you make the top of the
guard tower tall enough to where nobody can actually see
the top of the guard tower. Now, what this does
(30:51):
is it creates a psychological effect where the prisoners always
feel like they're being watched, and so they behave according
they don't violate rules, and they even police each other
for fear of being seen by the invisible guard. Now,
there have been actual panopticon prisons built. I believe there
(31:16):
was one in New Jersey. I think that was reopened
to take in COVID patients for quarantine. But there have
been actual pentopticon prisons built. And it's a terrifying concept,
especially if you put it in context of the digital age,
where everything's being washed reported despite on but you know that,
(31:43):
and then we're going to talk about the awful wars
that we've been in. This is an actual I actually
designed my own label for a can of worms, because
if you know anything about the mess in Syria, then
you know that the United States government actually created ISIS
and funded their assault on Syria that deposed the sheer
(32:07):
al saide. M hmm. It's kenon Ns and it's our fault.
We did it, so it I mean, I don't have
to explain the humor behind it. But these are all
these are all photos, these are all concepts that I'm designing,
and it's really boring and tiring, okay to have to
(32:30):
explain every one of them.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
But I have I have a question for you, and
maybe you already have a card for this. I know
you know about Project Northwoods, right.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, that was the very first card I ever made
for Series one.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay, did you mention the snakes in a plane?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
No, no snakes on a plane? That one. I'm not
going to say it's my my best design, but you
have it. Yeah. I'm just trying to find the actual
design and if you just give you a minute, I
can pull it up. It's yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's a while. Not a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You'll be surprised of the people that know about the
snakes and the plane little incident and how they were
they plan to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
That was something blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, the problem with Northwoods is that even back then
this was written. This is written during the Kennedy administration,
and even then they were talking about remote controled aircraft.
So that gives you an idea of the technology back then.
So the danger is that, like one thing I'm going
to tell anybody listening is now, didn't hear a previous conversation,
(33:36):
is that I'm not delving into like Bigfoot or aliens
or anything like that. But next door neighbors to that
are the crack pots that want to talk about, you know,
particle weapons during nine to eleven. Okay, come on, man,
that's that makes everybody look crazy. That's not what happened.
And everybody's so focused on details of how something happened
(34:00):
or you know, whether it was real, when they don't
really focus on why it happened or who made it happen.
Those are the Those are the answers, aren't after that
I'm trying to put in a form of card. So
I'm not gonna I mean that there's gonna be some
information on like maybe Kennedy and what happened on September eleventh,
(34:24):
but it's going to be stuff that is actually proven,
like the the truck, like the moving bands that actually
had explosives in them, and the and the New York
Police pulled them over and found explosives in a truck
that was going to be part of the basement. Mh.
I mean that that's that really happened, you know, forget
(34:47):
forget whether or not the plane hit the Pentagon. I mean,
there's a plane hit the Pentagon, all right, and it's
so I guess what I'm trying to say is the
h the realm of speculation is never going to be entered.
When I may get parted. I want people to see
(35:08):
something and go, holy crap, I need to look into this.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I like the fact that you said that because.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
People run wild in this type of town. I'm believing
we're paranoid over here, and I get it. Everything is
I like to say, everything is a conspiracy, and again
just living simulation is a conspiracy. And I'm a god
fearing man, and I know there's a creator, and I
know his name is Jesus, but even him letting me
(35:36):
run around this world simulating my life is a fucking simulation.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm just saying, guys, everything is like conspiracy theory within
all that, all that mess and the cloud. We like
to say, we like to focus in.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
The wow factor.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We like to focus on directing agy weapons, self demlestion.
Look hard, the plane never hit. It was a hall
of Project blue Bean. Wait, wait, shut the front door.
Even Let's just let's just say that what's it called
holograms exist Star Wars stuff? Right, Let's just say, don't
(36:13):
focus on what type of energy or weapon that is.
Focus on when did they start building it?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Why did they build it?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
You see what I'm saying, based on tangible, historical findable
resources and literature. That's what I like to say. That's
why we always say hashtag.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Look it up.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
The root of that is go look it up, and
don't just look at.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
The lasers coming from the sky and burning and starting
fires in California.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
It's not just about that Ooh north Woods document. I
love when he does that.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I'm surprised you don't have any little minions out here
just getting railed in a butt.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And yeah, well I don't have any news articles ready
to pull up. That's my default when I'm when I'm
talking about current news, we're documents. I'm I've got some
hair raising documents that I but they're buried. I'll tell
you what currently though, I've been really fascinated with the
P two Vatican connection in the nineteen seventies and eighties.
(37:15):
If you want topics for days, look into that. But
that's I'm also looking for fodder for series three. I've
already I've already started designing that. I've got at least
eight hundred topics that I can dive into, each with
(37:36):
folders each with both chapters and page numbers in my library.
And it's it's going to happen. But we you know,
it's you know, like I said, I'm not getting there
by leaps, I'm getting there by hops.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I love it. I love it. Plunder World, James, let
them know where they can find you one more time.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So you can find name on the world dot Com.
I'm very easy to find on Instagram underworld cards. We
can see dates for shows that I'm doing, are appearing at.
And sometimes you know when I'm in the design phase.
I always try to throw up new artwork and I
(38:20):
need feedback. I crave feed that and I can't. I
can't thank the people that have already pre ordered and
bought series one enough. It's it's only because people like
it that I'll keep doing it, and it's only going
to get better. Series two actually has guest artists. I've
got five talented artists to supply artwork for five cards
(38:45):
and series two, and I want to grow that too.
I want to get more people on board. I think
it's a great way to collaborate and just see what
and see what comes out of other people's heads. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Make sure you check them out. Can I say, can
I use the name plunder World two for the name
of this episode?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Do whatever you want? You show?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, but it's your name. I just want to make
sure I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
To promote the show and promote the cards the most importantly, guys,
promote the information. Don't don't sleep on this, Guys, don't
don't sleep on it. Shout outs to Tamera Tamra t
level Plane poem. She has your Thing, Your Your Your
your Series one in a freaking book, and she was
(39:32):
showing me like she put her on a camera and
she's like, yo, I am collecting all of us, so
if you have she's looking for the red ones. And
then she goes, if you have the other colors, I
need them right now. So I'm like, all right, bro,
Like he he hits somebody, there's a home run there.
I could only imagine who else is doing it. So
mad love, mad respect for what you do, I bro,
not only because you shipped ship Grace and you're you
(39:54):
spend your time here today, but also because you're on
a freaking mission and I respect the hard work you got. Heart,
mad love and respect again. Make sure you check him
out under World on Instagram, Underworld dot com. He's going
to be in the description of the show. Check out
check us out a parent radio dot com, drop a five,
serving up a podcast on Spotify because that allows other
people to enjoy the show as much as I enjoy
making it.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
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