August 6, 2025 • 34 mins
Joel from Free The Rabbits joins Paranoi Radio to break down the journey from conspiracy to awakening. We expose manipulation, information warfare, and the quiet battle for your mind. But this isn’t despair — it’s the beginning of light. The truth is rising… and the rabbits are finally being set free.
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Please give a one walk onto my next special guest,
Joel Joel Joel from Free the Rabbits.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Bro, what's up?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
How you doing man?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm doing good, Bro?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
How you doing today? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Man? Pretty good? Just you know, chucking along as we
all do.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
As yeah, oh yeah, yo. That's always a good place
to be.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Sometimes you get burned out, but hey, man, you asked
for this, care for what you wish for you doing?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Look Hey, bro, love your content, Love mercle media. You
guys are great. You guys are doing amazing stuff. I
m the us in a most passionate and white way.
If that's even a thing. Can you envy someone in
a very positive manner? I'm just saying, bro, because you
guys are living the freaking dream. I wake up dreaming
I'm gonna have my studio like with all the lighting
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and the freaking cameras and a special guess and looking
at the camera and pointing the good stuff and everything
that you guys do every single day and having all
the operations you guys have, the hunting, the outdoor stuff, family,
the god, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Man, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So congratulations on all your comings and all your projects.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Bro. What are you? Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, you can find me at Merkle dot media. If
you want to get to the podcast, they'll get you
directly to my podcast called Free the Rabbits Podcast. And
I started this a year ago and it's grown exponentially
in just one year, and I'm really happy that it
really connected with people because when I started it, it
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was definitely different than what most people are doing in
whatever you want to call this truth or conspiratorial space.
One of the things that I really wanted to do
with my podcast was to look at it from an
objective lens and not get so caught up in the
fear mongering and get so caught up in you know
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what people would attach themselves to because it's the wildest
thing they've heard, right, And not to say that the
weird and wild doesn't go on, because I completely believe
in the strange world and the unseen realm and all
of these things, right, But at the same time, I
do know that I call them conspiratorial junkies, and they
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will look to mainline the craziest thing they can five
times a week, and if they don't get it, then
they're freaking out and they're jones in for it, and honesty,
that's an easy way to get manipulated. And one of
the things that I wanted to do with this podcast,
and I started it out with the very first episode
(05:25):
called the cast Sunsteen Effect, and I really wanted to
shed light on the fact that, yes, the government does
not have our best interest, Yes there are weird things
that are going on in the world. Yes all these
things can be true, but at the same time everything's
not fake, but everything's not real, and you have to
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look at it from an objective lens to be able
to see through the mist. And also at the same time,
and I know you're a God fearing man, And one
of the things that I teach on the show is
our connected to God and our connectivity to others, because
what can easily happen, and I know you've seen it
in this conspiratorial space, people become more and more disconnected
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from reality in a sense of they feel like, well,
I can't connect to other people because they don't think
like me, or they don't see these things that I see, right,
I see it all the time in the church, right,
I'm a Christian, So I see that there's a contingent
of people who look at the scriptures a certain way
that probably I would look at as well. When you're
talking about demotic entities and the Enephalim and some of
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these other very what people consider fantastical aspects of the Bible,
which are absolutely true because they're in the Bible. But
people will find a way to not talk to other
people if they don't think like them on those things.
And that's not what God or Yashua came here to
teach us to do in the first place. As a
matter of fact, you know you're speaking off air before
(06:54):
we got on here about politics, right, And I don't
get into politics too much on the show. But one
of the things that I can look at when it
comes to politics is it's very easy for us as
a people to get really caught up in our particular
side of it and not even try to look at
the other side with empathy or compassion and listen, I'm
(07:18):
just as much as the next guy when it comes
to like the woke left, but there's also a woke
right as well. And the thing is, we don't look
at it objectively anymore, and we just look to squabble
and fight, and the internet or social media isn't reality,
and what we typically see is the worst portions of
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whatever said side it is we're against, right. So I
talk about this too on the show. When it comes
to AI algorithms and how they work, well, what they
do is they compartmentalize you and your social media in
a echo chamber where you only see the type of
things that you want to see, but adversely, it knows
(08:01):
what you don't like to see, so it filters that
stuff to you too, so then you get angry and
you engage in it. But here's the best part. Those
things are just a very small portion of what you're
looking at. So it's like when we look at back
to politics, right, you look at liberals or conservatives, Right,
I would typically say being out in the real world
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that most people typically find themselves more in a centralist viewpoint. Right.
Most people want to work together. Most people want things
to work in a way that would be beneficial to society.
That's most people. But what we see is the most
bizarre behavior right in our faces twenty four to seven.
(08:44):
So then we get that picture of the other side.
Oh that's all of them. They're all blue hair trying
to chop kids genitals off, right, When in reality, it's
not like that as a whole. And the other side
of it too, where you know, I've got friends that
on both sides of it. In the central's view, right,
I try to typically not cut people off because of politics,
(09:06):
because I think that's absolutely stupid, and I think that's
exactly what they want us to do. They don't want
us talking to each other, they don't want us working
with each other, And I think that what I've learned
is that by listening to everybody's viewpoint, I can find
myself in where I need to be. And honestly, as
a Christian, when I'm reading the Bible or when I'm
(09:28):
communing with God, He's going to guide me in the
path that I need to go anyway. So at that point,
I'm just here to live life christ like. And if
I live life christ like, then I'm going to connect
to other people and have empathy and compassion even for
people that are doing some of the worst things on
the planet. We weren't called to love people that are
(09:49):
easy love. We were called to love even the worst
of the worst.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Boom, I told you, we're going to mean that. Making
deposits into the back of that was a bomb. I
like to say say on the show. Most of the time, guys,
I come to the I started. I walked into the
Bible looking for conspiracy theories and came out holding Jesus
zan bro I was, you know, it's like a child.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm like, dude, what the heck? And then so I
understand what you're saying. And sometimes, Bro, we're keeping, we're keeping.
We jump in to the deep end of the pool.
On the conspiracy topics and then forget what we're supposed
to do at home.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We can't change the federal government. And this comes from
a trumper. Guys, you can't change the federal government. You
can't change the world. All you can do is, first
of all, provide profess and what's the other one? Provide
professor and the three piece provide profess and oh man,
that would have came out cool if I would have
said the third one. Anyway, the point is put Jesus
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first in control. Where you're two feet lay. You can't
make a difference in the world or at the civic center.
You could only make the change at home.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And you people change like they.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Disconnect themselves from that bro and they become a creepy
kind of like that song, and you become a weirdo
kind of like that song. It's not it's not necessarily
always hopeless, guys. If you change your household, you change
your life patterns, your your negative habits, your lower frequency.
You'll start disconnecting from the drug dealers, disconnecting from the alcohol,
disconnecting from Instead of spending time with your wife, you're
(11:18):
going to scream at her. And you know, and cause
problems in your house, and it comes from a place
where I've actually dealt with it. Guys, things change. You
become a little bit more conservative on your health, your body,
and you start becoming a better person overall, a better father,
a better entity, and a more impactful one. Because once
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you start speaking and spreading that truth, spreading a little Jesus,
injecting Jesus and everything you do. I'm not saying guys
don't become religious. Have an intimate relationship with the guy,
and then people will start listening to you, watching you grow.
They get inspired, Bro, and it's like aspiring you feel
like a snowball effect. You start impacting others. That is
how you're going to change the world. One step at
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a time, one episode at a time, one day at
a time.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, man, that was I have to agree with everything
you said, but a lot. I think a lot of
the elements that are around us, Bro, are here to
keep bus not only docile but also consuming and divided,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, for sure. And I agree with the consumerism part
of it for sure. And I think that I try
to tow the line on my show at least, and
the people that I talk to and try to help
along the way, because one of the objectives of the show,
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and one of the catalysts of me even starting the show,
was seeing people who are so lost down the rabbit
hole that they can't get out. And that's the whole
point of the show, Free the rabbits. We're here to
free these rabbits. I always end every show with touch
grass and get your tail out the hole, like literally,
go outside and touch grass, because the problem is people
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get so lost in these conspiracies where they become their
whole lives and it here's the thing, when it becomes
your whole identity a theory or theories. What if that
theory ends up being wrong, Well, you're gonna do one
of two things. You're either gonna wake up and you're
gonna say, well, man, I was looking at this the
wrong way. Maybe I need to look at things a
(13:22):
little more execty, Maybe i'd lean to look a little
deeper into something.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's only a small percentage of people are gonna do that.
Most people are gonna double down on whatever said theory
that they believe in, and they're gonna say, no, this
is it, and I'm going to move the goalposts a
million times more to make sure that that theory is
still correct. And that's the problem. And a lot of
these theories troubles mean nothing when it comes to real
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life and us connecting with each other and working together.
Man with fighting over the shape of the earth is
not gonna help anybody. It's not gonna help. It doesn't
do any good. I've heard every argument about why it matters,
and literally it does not matter. I can walk outside
right now if the earth is the shape of a cube.
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It does not matter how I'm treating my neighbor right
down the street. It does not matter who I'm connecting
with at the grocery store, who needs help, the little
old lady that needs help. Those are the things that matter.
Conspiracies can be fun, and in some senses, yes, it
does keep us awaken and aware to things that are
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moving and shaking around us, right especially when it affects
our immediate lives and our families lives. There are certain
things that you know, look at twenty twenty, Those things
affected us, and those were decisions that we all had
to make for ourselves and our families. When it comes
to some of these other things that people just squabble
and fight and go crazy over man. Listen, it doesn't
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matter if you believe that Tartaria existed two hundred years
ago and the timeline change. You know whatever, right, it
still has no bearing on what you're doing right now.
What I teach on my show is how do these
things become applicable to your daily life? How does it right?
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You know? I talk a lot about biblical history on
the show, and I love the Bible, and I love
all the fantastical things. But what I try to do
is I try to bring those things back into how
is this an allegory to how we should be living
and treating other people? How should we be listening to
God about what his plan is for our lives. We
all got our own plans for our lives, but is
that his plan for us? We got to ask that question.
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When are we willing to sacrifice what we want for
what we are supposed to do walking the path of God?
And I think we don't hear enough of that. And
that's one of the things that I really am moving
more and more towards is I continue with my show,
and I continue all the other things that I do
with Merkele Media and all the other people I work
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with is trying to find the mind of God and
working towards that. And I understand everybody's not going to
be a Christian or everybody's not going to think the
same way. But what I want to do is show
love and compassion to everybody because everyone deserves it. We're
all created in the image of God. And once we
realize that, I think we can move more towards a
(16:19):
very harmonious way to live with each other. As much
as there's disaster that's seemingly impending all around us, right,
we don't need to let those things control us troubles.
I think that's the thing. All the people that want
to sit there twenty four to seven, dig out all
these conspiracies. What happens when you find or uncover and
(16:42):
I put quotations on that all those things. Where does
that leave you?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
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Speaker 3 (17:42):
Have you become better because of it? Or has that
just put you in a level of despair and a
level of depression, which I see a ton of people
in the Conspiratorial truth or space just living in depression
and despair and nothing's ever gonna happen. It's the black pillars.
They're just gonna die.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We're gonna die.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
And that's not why we were put on this earth
to do. We were put here to die, man, We're
here to live. And I think once you realize that,
we can really make a difference. Even if it's a
very small difference. Even if it's just up on five people. Man,
there's five people that didn't have help.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
There's so much weight to what he said depression. Bro,
it's like almost they control it. Whenever you see anything
blow up and go mainstream, and whenever people tell me,
like I Flash told me once on the show, tell
me who I can't talk about.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I don't gonna tell you who's in charge.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The moment anything golds mainstream. Bro, it's like, to my again,
low frequency patterns disconnecting you from time, because quite frankly,
you're in a hamster wheel of just consumption and provide,
trying to provide for yourself and just survivability, and thing
that you listen to and engage with is controlled like
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Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's so like in that cloud.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And even for conspiracy theories theorist then, okay, my favorite
conspiracy of all time is Titanic. I started the show
I was a child. I was obsessed with Titanic. Dude,
Oh my god, what I learned about it? And I'm like, now,
what am I gonna do with this information? How am
I gonna educate myself? Okay, well, I'm gonna tell people
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about it, not every single episode, tell people about it, right,
And then I'm gonna start applying it to.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Myself to avoid this little pattern avoid.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
The more you learn, you don't only find out that
you're the more you learn the more you don't know,
but you also you start cutting chains, cutting cutting uh,
traumatic events for your children to become more like you.
I don't want my two daughters to be like me,
hell no. I don't want my two daughters to live
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like me. Hell no, Bro. The chain has to be cut,
the generational trauma, the where's my parents, that pain, that sorrow,
and I don't know none of that. That's gonna be
revamped and reshapened by Jesus and then by my efforts
here on earth in a physical ground. And this is
where you apply it. I don't want to sound preachy
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or anything, but I'm kind of glad we didn't go
into a conspiracy topic to topic today. Sometimes you need
this refreshing episodes to remind you where you two feet lay,
where you're at. That'd be interesting, bro. I'm not kind
of glad that we looked at eye on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
But yeah, episode two man for sure, and I would
say that and this will tie into if people want
to go listen to the very first episode I did
call this cast Sunstein Effect, and just briefly about what
that effect did in two thousand and nine and what's
(20:54):
changed ever since then. Well, cast Robert Sunstein, he was
legal scholar and he worked for the Obama administration in
two thousand and nine to twenty twelve, and during that
time he writes this paper and he went to Harvard.
He's a Harvard professor. He wrote this paper with Agent Vermule,
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and it's called Symposium on Conspiracy Theories. Conspiracy Theories, Causes
and Cures in this paper and you can find it
pdf and it's not a long read, but it's very
impactful on what they were talking about. And the entire
purpose of the paper was teaching the government how to
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infiltrate conspiratorial groups and then feed those groups with false
information and not shut the front door, and not all false.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But just enough.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So it all started with nine to eleven eleven, And
he talks about this at the very beginning of the paper.
How that at the point in time when he wrote
the paper in two thousand and eight, he and Adrian
Vermule fifty percent of New Yorkers believed that our own
government had something to do with nine to eleven. So
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that was a concern for him and obviously other people
that work in the government, because they want you to
do whatever that they say. So he maps out, play
by play in this paper, how to infiltrate these different
groups within the conspiratorial community. Now we're talking about two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, the Internet, in
(22:43):
specifically social media is nothing like it is now. So
what they did was he maps out of play by
play how to do it, how to infiltrate them, using
a term called cognitive infiltration. So they're going to tap
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into a purely cognitive portion of conspiracy theories that are
circulating at the time and either grow them to box
in said group of people so they can track them better,
or they will infiltrate enough information into these theories to
make it so muddled that you don't even know what
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the truth is. And in some cases they'll take some
of these conspiratorial theories and create them out of and
still track you absolutely. And they talk about people that
are isolated, how to isolate them more. It's all about that.
And what I did is I was putting together this
particular episode, and I did a ton of research on
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it over the years, and one of the things that
I wanted to look at was what conspiracy theories really
blew up after eight oh nine. What were these things
that started happening when I started tracking them. They're all
the big dogs. Earth went nuclear in twenty twelve, you
had Tartaria twenty seventeen really took off. It's not that
these theories didn't exist before that, because they did. I mean,
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even the flat earth community was popping in the nineteen seventies.
It's not saying that they created these but what happened
was these theories became hugely massive after this paper was written,
So you got all these other aspects that started coming out.
Mandela effect popped off in twenty twelve, which room Fiona Broom.
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If you track her, and she's the one that coined
that term, she has ties to the government, so that's
even crazier to think about that when she came out
with this theory of the Mandela effect. She talks about
in her first meeting. She is in a room with
a bunch of people there there to listen to her
talk about paranormal stuff. She's a paranormal writer, by the way,
(24:55):
so she's been hunting ghosts and everything for the better
part of fifty years. So she goes there to talk
to people. She throws it out there that, oh, I
thought Nelson Mandela was already dead. All these other people
in the room, oh he is, Oh man, what happened
to timeline change? Before you know it? Then she comes
out with this term the Mandela effect. So then the
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Mandel effect picks up steam, and then people start remembering
things that they said happen. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
I'm not here to argue the point of the Mandela effect,
even though I'm very skeptical of the Mandel effect in
some ways, because one of the big parts of the
Mandel effect is the Bible being changed. That cern and
the demonic entities are changing the Bible. So now you've
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made the Bible untrustworthy even Christians now. So I mean,
you've got some big talking heads that are writing books
about this, about the Bible being changed in their quote unquoe.
So at the end of the day, you have to
question what's the source. Whenever I do research, I go
deep and I try to find out who are the sources?
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Where did this start? Who are the people?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Fiona Broom. She tracked her lineage back to the Knight's
templar from the Crusades, So we have to ask these questions.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Talking about generational curses.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Baby, Yeah, you know, what are we really What are
we really doing as a conspiratorial community. If we're literally
never believing anything, everything's vake, well we're never gonna get anywhere,
won And that's what they want. This goes back to
this cast Sunstein effect. They want us constantly living in fear,
living in paranoia, to the point that we don't know
(26:35):
anything anymore, and we don't even trust God. Listen with
the Mandela fact, we don't even trust the Bible anymore
as Christians. I mean, that's insane to me. I'm gonna
be honest with you. I have done some massive research
on it, and I got a ton of backlash on
that episode, and I don't care because at the end
of the day, I'm gonna stand up for what's right.
(26:55):
And if we're gonna sit here and act like so
many things these things are going on, what are we doing? Hey,
you might as well jump off a cliff we're living
in some gnostic realm of the matrix, which that's a
whole other rabbit hole of the Gnostics, and how narcissism
is interwoven within our government right now. They all want
us to not have trust in faith in God at
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the end of the day, because when you have that troubles,
you don't fear anything anymore. None of this stuff matters.
When this stuff's going on, You're just like, man, I
don't care. Man, listen, you know what's so refreshing for
me was all this crazy stuff going on over in
Israel right now, and I didn't care. I was so
happy to not care. And I'm not saying I didn't
care in the sense of I don't care about people,
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or I don't care about my family. It's not that
I'm not aware of what's going on. But what I
do know is with Christ, with God, I am in
his will. So no matter what happens, man, at the
end of the day, I'm going to be okay. And
I think that's what I'm trying so hard to push
into this community. And I get it. I get a
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ton of heat and a ton of backlash of people
for coming with this positive attitude in this space because
people love the negativity, you know, you know, it's so funny.
I'll listen to people on the right scream at the
woke left for being so negative. I'm like, dude, you
were just talking about the most crazy stuff a minute ago,
and you talk about the world was ending, like you're
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just as bad. Like, we have to realize that as people,
we can only control one thing, our relationship with God
and who we are. When we get that, when we
move forward with it, it doesn't mean we're not gonna make
mistakes for human doesn't mean that we're not gonna fall
on our faces because we are human. But at the
end of the day, we're gonna keep pressing forward and
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we're just gonna slowly shed these layers of fear that
these entities are trying to throw at us every day.
And when we get to that point, man, you really
just you don't care about the evil that's going on
around you in the way that you did. Right, We're
gonna be careful and take care of our families and
take care of our friends and take care of the
people around us, but we're also looking for reasons to
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help people. We're also looking for reasons to grow. We're
looking to have fun too, man. Shoot, you know how
many people in the conspiratual community just throw fun out
of the window and act like, oh, you can't do nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh God, I have to be honest with you. Three things.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know people that are so dark in the conspiracy
world and so deep into it that they become black pills. You,
my friend, are the first white pill I've ever had
on the show today. And it's very, very refreshing because
now I think I know where I'm I think I
know where my niche is too. Like I've decided with
all this information, like what about hope? Why do we
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always have to be hopeless? Like why does everything end
like no? Like come on, rejoice, we can't have that,
Like what the heck?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, the empty void and misery needs to be
filled with something dark and more people dark. And it's
just the type of energy you attract. You could be
a conspiracy theorist, but you could also be spiritual, and
people always try to bide those things.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
If you like a conspiracy theorist, Bro, you're.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Looking at it as like, yo, I saw it as
a conspiracy, that Titanic as our chemtrails. I seen Alistair Crowley.
Oh wait, he's gonna be spiritual? What the heck? And
then I turned it around, turned it around and went
to the Bible, and then I met Jesus and I
was like, holy snap, dude, all of the freaking conspiracy
(30:31):
theorists are already here.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
They're right here. Bro. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's amazing that you guys. It's amazing to see how
people fight, fight their own turmo, their own demons, their
own egos, and try to like, oh, but like I
have this speaker on and I'm better. And today even
what happened on Saturday, the bombings, right, I was aware
of the bombings. I just didn't engage on social media again.
(30:57):
Remember full right before we end, full of social media
is now the mainstream. I've always said, I told you
that before we recorded. And then people were messaging in
the chat rooms and messaging me straight, like.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Directly, what do you have to say about this?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
My best friend calls me, I think this sec you're
over here sucking orange Man's penis, And.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I was like, what, I spend some time.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I played PS five, I ate chicken wings. I disengage
from social media, and I was like, you know, how
refreshing it was to have all this drama outside and
I keep up with it and just serve myself with
my two feet lay and enjoy some of the you know.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The hard work of my labor, and just chill with
God a little bit. Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's humanizing, It centers you, bro, Believe it or not,
Yo Free the Rabbits.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Bro, Yeah, that's gonna be a hashtag. That's gonna be
a thing.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Let me know when we're tied, where they can find you, bro.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, you can find me at Link Tree Slash, Joel
Thomas Media and that'll get you to literally everywhere. I'm
a musician. I have music coming out all the time.
I've been doing that for a better part of twenty years.
But I would see in the past four years music
definitely changed in the presentation that I was giving it,
especially when I found my way back to God and
(32:21):
obviously the way that I was looking at the world
around me right it started to change, and I think
definitely for the positive. I also make films. You can
find those at merkelefilms dot com. We have a brand
new film coming out July twenty seventh, and it's gonna
be really good. We worked with another team who studies
(32:43):
this particular area. We actually had to sign NDA's before
even going out there, so I can't even talk about
where we're at. You just get to see it. So
it's gonna be really cool. And the podcast you can
find it on any platform YouTube. You can find me
on Spotify, Apple, podcast Rumble, any that you listen or
watch podcasts. You can find Free the Rabbits just type
(33:04):
in Free the Rabbits. But again, if you go to
link tree slash Joel Thomas Media, you can get to
everything there, all the things that I do, and yeah,
that's where you can find me.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yo. It was an amazing, amazing and humbling pleasure to
have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm glad that we linked up. This episode is good.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I mean, look, Bro, we've had We've had people talking
about leaving religions and leaving cultic stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
We've had people about sirial killers.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
We've had documentary episodes, so people that talk about being
deep into the sex life important and then coming out
and being full on Christians.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
It's very very important.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
To testify and tell people your roots and how you're
doing better, how you're a better person on the day
to day out of very basic and keeping it very simple.
In fact, the beginning of every show in the theme song,
you start with kids, keep it simple, stupid. That's all
this stands for. And this is what it means. You're
keeping it simple off the cuff. You don't have to
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have an agenda. So I want to thank you again
from the bottom of my heart. Make sure, ladies and
gentlemen to check out Free the Rabbits podcast, mercle Media.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
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Still, check us out on YouTube, check us out on
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Peace
Oh man, this guy cut. He came in with some
fire stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Be free. Basically, don't let.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Conspiracies rule your realm, all your world and start where
your family is at. Bro let them know one more
talk about They can find you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
You can find me at Joel Thomas Media, link tree, slash,
Joel Thomas Media, and you can find me at all
of the places there where I do films, where I
drop music, and the podcast, which you can find on
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Please give a one walk onto my next special guest,
Joel Joel Joel from Free the Rabbits.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Bro, what's up?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
How you doing man?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm doing good, Bro?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
How you doing today? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Man? Pretty good? Just you know, chucking along as we
all do.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
As yeah, oh yeah, yo. That's always a good place
to be.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Sometimes you get burned out, but hey, man, you asked
for this, care for what you wish for you doing?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Look Hey, bro, love your content, Love mercle media. You
guys are great. You guys are doing amazing stuff. I
m the us in a most passionate and white way.
If that's even a thing. Can you envy someone in
a very positive manner? I'm just saying, bro, because you
guys are living the freaking dream. I wake up dreaming
I'm gonna have my studio like with all the lighting
(03:36):
and the freaking cameras and a special guess and looking
at the camera and pointing the good stuff and everything
that you guys do every single day and having all
the operations you guys have, the hunting, the outdoor stuff, family,
the god, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Man, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So congratulations on all your comings and all your projects.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Bro. What are you? Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, you can find me at Merkle dot media. If
you want to get to the podcast, they'll get you
directly to my podcast called Free the Rabbits Podcast. And
I started this a year ago and it's grown exponentially
in just one year, and I'm really happy that it
really connected with people because when I started it, it
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was definitely different than what most people are doing in
whatever you want to call this truth or conspiratorial space.
One of the things that I really wanted to do
with my podcast was to look at it from an
objective lens and not get so caught up in the
fear mongering and get so caught up in you know
(04:42):
what people would attach themselves to because it's the wildest
thing they've heard, right, And not to say that the
weird and wild doesn't go on, because I completely believe
in the strange world and the unseen realm and all
of these things, right, But at the same time, I
do know that I call them conspiratorial junkies, and they
(05:04):
will look to mainline the craziest thing they can five
times a week, and if they don't get it, then
they're freaking out and they're jones in for it, and honesty,
that's an easy way to get manipulated. And one of
the things that I wanted to do with this podcast,
and I started it out with the very first episode
(05:25):
called the cast Sunsteen Effect, and I really wanted to
shed light on the fact that, yes, the government does
not have our best interest, Yes there are weird things
that are going on in the world. Yes all these
things can be true, but at the same time everything's
not fake, but everything's not real, and you have to
(05:46):
look at it from an objective lens to be able
to see through the mist. And also at the same time,
and I know you're a God fearing man, And one
of the things that I teach on the show is
our connected to God and our connectivity to others, because
what can easily happen, and I know you've seen it
in this conspiratorial space, people become more and more disconnected
(06:10):
from reality in a sense of they feel like, well,
I can't connect to other people because they don't think
like me, or they don't see these things that I see, right,
I see it all the time in the church, right,
I'm a Christian, So I see that there's a contingent
of people who look at the scriptures a certain way
that probably I would look at as well. When you're
talking about demotic entities and the Enephalim and some of
(06:33):
these other very what people consider fantastical aspects of the Bible,
which are absolutely true because they're in the Bible. But
people will find a way to not talk to other
people if they don't think like them on those things.
And that's not what God or Yashua came here to
teach us to do in the first place. As a
matter of fact, you know you're speaking off air before
(06:54):
we got on here about politics, right, And I don't
get into politics too much on the show. But one
of the things that I can look at when it
comes to politics is it's very easy for us as
a people to get really caught up in our particular
side of it and not even try to look at
the other side with empathy or compassion and listen, I'm
(07:18):
just as much as the next guy when it comes
to like the woke left, but there's also a woke
right as well. And the thing is, we don't look
at it objectively anymore, and we just look to squabble
and fight, and the internet or social media isn't reality,
and what we typically see is the worst portions of
(07:41):
whatever said side it is we're against, right. So I
talk about this too on the show. When it comes
to AI algorithms and how they work, well, what they
do is they compartmentalize you and your social media in
a echo chamber where you only see the type of
things that you want to see, but adversely, it knows
(08:01):
what you don't like to see, so it filters that
stuff to you too, so then you get angry and
you engage in it. But here's the best part. Those
things are just a very small portion of what you're
looking at. So it's like when we look at back
to politics, right, you look at liberals or conservatives, Right,
I would typically say being out in the real world
(08:23):
that most people typically find themselves more in a centralist viewpoint. Right.
Most people want to work together. Most people want things
to work in a way that would be beneficial to society.
That's most people. But what we see is the most
bizarre behavior right in our faces twenty four to seven.
(08:44):
So then we get that picture of the other side.
Oh that's all of them. They're all blue hair trying
to chop kids genitals off, right, When in reality, it's
not like that as a whole. And the other side
of it too, where you know, I've got friends that
on both sides of it. In the central's view, right,
I try to typically not cut people off because of politics,
(09:06):
because I think that's absolutely stupid, and I think that's
exactly what they want us to do. They don't want
us talking to each other, they don't want us working
with each other, And I think that what I've learned
is that by listening to everybody's viewpoint, I can find
myself in where I need to be. And honestly, as
a Christian, when I'm reading the Bible or when I'm
(09:28):
communing with God, He's going to guide me in the
path that I need to go anyway. So at that point,
I'm just here to live life christ like. And if
I live life christ like, then I'm going to connect
to other people and have empathy and compassion even for
people that are doing some of the worst things on
the planet. We weren't called to love people that are
(09:49):
easy love. We were called to love even the worst
of the worst.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Boom, I told you, we're going to mean that. Making
deposits into the back of that was a bomb. I
like to say say on the show. Most of the time, guys,
I come to the I started. I walked into the
Bible looking for conspiracy theories and came out holding Jesus
zan bro I was, you know, it's like a child.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm like, dude, what the heck? And then so I
understand what you're saying. And sometimes, Bro, we're keeping, we're keeping.
We jump in to the deep end of the pool.
On the conspiracy topics and then forget what we're supposed
to do at home.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We can't change the federal government. And this comes from
a trumper. Guys, you can't change the federal government. You
can't change the world. All you can do is, first
of all, provide profess and what's the other one? Provide
professor and the three piece provide profess and oh man,
that would have came out cool if I would have
said the third one. Anyway, the point is put Jesus
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first in control. Where you're two feet lay. You can't
make a difference in the world or at the civic center.
You could only make the change at home.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And you people change like they.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Disconnect themselves from that bro and they become a creepy
kind of like that song, and you become a weirdo
kind of like that song. It's not it's not necessarily
always hopeless, guys. If you change your household, you change
your life patterns, your your negative habits, your lower frequency.
You'll start disconnecting from the drug dealers, disconnecting from the alcohol,
disconnecting from Instead of spending time with your wife, you're
(11:18):
going to scream at her. And you know, and cause
problems in your house, and it comes from a place
where I've actually dealt with it. Guys, things change. You
become a little bit more conservative on your health, your body,
and you start becoming a better person overall, a better father,
a better entity, and a more impactful one. Because once
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you start speaking and spreading that truth, spreading a little Jesus,
injecting Jesus and everything you do. I'm not saying guys
don't become religious. Have an intimate relationship with the guy,
and then people will start listening to you, watching you grow.
They get inspired, Bro, and it's like aspiring you feel
like a snowball effect. You start impacting others. That is
how you're going to change the world. One step at
(12:00):
a time, one episode at a time, one day at
a time.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, man, that was I have to agree with everything
you said, but a lot. I think a lot of
the elements that are around us, Bro, are here to
keep bus not only docile but also consuming and divided,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, for sure. And I agree with the consumerism part
of it for sure. And I think that I try
to tow the line on my show at least, and
the people that I talk to and try to help
along the way, because one of the objectives of the show,
(12:37):
and one of the catalysts of me even starting the show,
was seeing people who are so lost down the rabbit
hole that they can't get out. And that's the whole
point of the show, Free the rabbits. We're here to
free these rabbits. I always end every show with touch
grass and get your tail out the hole, like literally,
go outside and touch grass, because the problem is people
(13:00):
get so lost in these conspiracies where they become their
whole lives and it here's the thing, when it becomes
your whole identity a theory or theories. What if that
theory ends up being wrong, Well, you're gonna do one
of two things. You're either gonna wake up and you're
gonna say, well, man, I was looking at this the
wrong way. Maybe I need to look at things a
(13:22):
little more execty, Maybe i'd lean to look a little
deeper into something.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's only a small percentage of people are gonna do that.
Most people are gonna double down on whatever said theory
that they believe in, and they're gonna say, no, this
is it, and I'm going to move the goalposts a
million times more to make sure that that theory is
still correct. And that's the problem. And a lot of
these theories troubles mean nothing when it comes to real
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life and us connecting with each other and working together.
Man with fighting over the shape of the earth is
not gonna help anybody. It's not gonna help. It doesn't
do any good. I've heard every argument about why it matters,
and literally it does not matter. I can walk outside
right now if the earth is the shape of a cube.
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It does not matter how I'm treating my neighbor right
down the street. It does not matter who I'm connecting
with at the grocery store, who needs help, the little
old lady that needs help. Those are the things that matter.
Conspiracies can be fun, and in some senses, yes, it
does keep us awaken and aware to things that are
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moving and shaking around us, right especially when it affects
our immediate lives and our families lives. There are certain
things that you know, look at twenty twenty, Those things
affected us, and those were decisions that we all had
to make for ourselves and our families. When it comes
to some of these other things that people just squabble
and fight and go crazy over man. Listen, it doesn't
(14:53):
matter if you believe that Tartaria existed two hundred years
ago and the timeline change. You know whatever, right, it
still has no bearing on what you're doing right now.
What I teach on my show is how do these
things become applicable to your daily life? How does it right?
(15:14):
You know? I talk a lot about biblical history on
the show, and I love the Bible, and I love
all the fantastical things. But what I try to do
is I try to bring those things back into how
is this an allegory to how we should be living
and treating other people? How should we be listening to
God about what his plan is for our lives. We
all got our own plans for our lives, but is
that his plan for us? We got to ask that question.
(15:37):
When are we willing to sacrifice what we want for
what we are supposed to do walking the path of God?
And I think we don't hear enough of that. And
that's one of the things that I really am moving
more and more towards is I continue with my show,
and I continue all the other things that I do
with Merkele Media and all the other people I work
(15:59):
with is trying to find the mind of God and
working towards that. And I understand everybody's not going to
be a Christian or everybody's not going to think the
same way. But what I want to do is show
love and compassion to everybody because everyone deserves it. We're
all created in the image of God. And once we
realize that, I think we can move more towards a
(16:19):
very harmonious way to live with each other. As much
as there's disaster that's seemingly impending all around us, right,
we don't need to let those things control us troubles.
I think that's the thing. All the people that want
to sit there twenty four to seven, dig out all
these conspiracies. What happens when you find or uncover and
(16:42):
I put quotations on that all those things. Where does
that leave you?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yo, yo, shut the front door. Give me one moment here, guys.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
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We're on YouTube, and do not forget a drop of
five star review on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify, because
that allows other people like you to enjoy the show
as much as I enjoy making it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Y'all, now stay tuned, enjoy the rest of the show.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Have you become better because of it? Or has that
just put you in a level of despair and a
level of depression, which I see a ton of people
in the Conspiratorial truth or space just living in depression
and despair and nothing's ever gonna happen. It's the black pillars.
They're just gonna die.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We're gonna die.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
And that's not why we were put on this earth
to do. We were put here to die, man, We're
here to live. And I think once you realize that,
we can really make a difference. Even if it's a
very small difference. Even if it's just up on five people. Man,
there's five people that didn't have help.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
There's so much weight to what he said depression. Bro,
it's like almost they control it. Whenever you see anything
blow up and go mainstream, and whenever people tell me,
like I Flash told me once on the show, tell
me who I can't talk about.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I don't gonna tell you who's in charge.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The moment anything golds mainstream. Bro, it's like, to my again,
low frequency patterns disconnecting you from time, because quite frankly,
you're in a hamster wheel of just consumption and provide,
trying to provide for yourself and just survivability, and thing
that you listen to and engage with is controlled like
(19:03):
Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's so like in that cloud.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And even for conspiracy theories theorist then, okay, my favorite
conspiracy of all time is Titanic. I started the show
I was a child. I was obsessed with Titanic. Dude,
Oh my god, what I learned about it? And I'm like, now,
what am I gonna do with this information? How am
I gonna educate myself? Okay, well, I'm gonna tell people
(19:28):
about it, not every single episode, tell people about it, right,
And then I'm gonna start applying it to.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Myself to avoid this little pattern avoid.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
The more you learn, you don't only find out that
you're the more you learn the more you don't know,
but you also you start cutting chains, cutting cutting uh,
traumatic events for your children to become more like you.
I don't want my two daughters to be like me,
hell no. I don't want my two daughters to live
(19:56):
like me. Hell no, Bro. The chain has to be cut,
the generational trauma, the where's my parents, that pain, that sorrow,
and I don't know none of that. That's gonna be
revamped and reshapened by Jesus and then by my efforts
here on earth in a physical ground. And this is
where you apply it. I don't want to sound preachy
(20:18):
or anything, but I'm kind of glad we didn't go
into a conspiracy topic to topic today. Sometimes you need
this refreshing episodes to remind you where you two feet lay,
where you're at. That'd be interesting, bro. I'm not kind
of glad that we looked at eye on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
But yeah, episode two man for sure, and I would
say that and this will tie into if people want
to go listen to the very first episode I did
call this cast Sunstein Effect, and just briefly about what
that effect did in two thousand and nine and what's
(20:54):
changed ever since then. Well, cast Robert Sunstein, he was
legal scholar and he worked for the Obama administration in
two thousand and nine to twenty twelve, and during that
time he writes this paper and he went to Harvard.
He's a Harvard professor. He wrote this paper with Agent Vermule,
(21:16):
and it's called Symposium on Conspiracy Theories. Conspiracy Theories, Causes
and Cures in this paper and you can find it
pdf and it's not a long read, but it's very
impactful on what they were talking about. And the entire
purpose of the paper was teaching the government how to
(21:39):
infiltrate conspiratorial groups and then feed those groups with false
information and not shut the front door, and not all false.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But just enough.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So it all started with nine to eleven eleven, And
he talks about this at the very beginning of the paper.
How that at the point in time when he wrote
the paper in two thousand and eight, he and Adrian
Vermule fifty percent of New Yorkers believed that our own
government had something to do with nine to eleven. So
(22:19):
that was a concern for him and obviously other people
that work in the government, because they want you to
do whatever that they say. So he maps out, play
by play in this paper, how to infiltrate these different
groups within the conspiratorial community. Now we're talking about two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, the Internet, in
(22:43):
specifically social media is nothing like it is now. So
what they did was he maps out of play by
play how to do it, how to infiltrate them, using
a term called cognitive infiltration. So they're going to tap
(23:03):
into a purely cognitive portion of conspiracy theories that are
circulating at the time and either grow them to box
in said group of people so they can track them better,
or they will infiltrate enough information into these theories to
make it so muddled that you don't even know what
(23:23):
the truth is. And in some cases they'll take some
of these conspiratorial theories and create them out of and
still track you absolutely. And they talk about people that
are isolated, how to isolate them more. It's all about that.
And what I did is I was putting together this
particular episode, and I did a ton of research on
(23:48):
it over the years, and one of the things that
I wanted to look at was what conspiracy theories really
blew up after eight oh nine. What were these things
that started happening when I started tracking them. They're all
the big dogs. Earth went nuclear in twenty twelve, you
had Tartaria twenty seventeen really took off. It's not that
these theories didn't exist before that, because they did. I mean,
(24:10):
even the flat earth community was popping in the nineteen seventies.
It's not saying that they created these but what happened
was these theories became hugely massive after this paper was written,
So you got all these other aspects that started coming out.
Mandela effect popped off in twenty twelve, which room Fiona Broom.
(24:33):
If you track her, and she's the one that coined
that term, she has ties to the government, so that's
even crazier to think about that when she came out
with this theory of the Mandela effect. She talks about
in her first meeting. She is in a room with
a bunch of people there there to listen to her
talk about paranormal stuff. She's a paranormal writer, by the way,
(24:55):
so she's been hunting ghosts and everything for the better
part of fifty years. So she goes there to talk
to people. She throws it out there that, oh, I
thought Nelson Mandela was already dead. All these other people
in the room, oh he is, Oh man, what happened
to timeline change? Before you know it? Then she comes
out with this term the Mandela effect. So then the
(25:15):
Mandel effect picks up steam, and then people start remembering
things that they said happen. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
I'm not here to argue the point of the Mandela effect,
even though I'm very skeptical of the Mandel effect in
some ways, because one of the big parts of the
Mandel effect is the Bible being changed. That cern and
the demonic entities are changing the Bible. So now you've
(25:38):
made the Bible untrustworthy even Christians now. So I mean,
you've got some big talking heads that are writing books
about this, about the Bible being changed in their quote unquoe.
So at the end of the day, you have to
question what's the source. Whenever I do research, I go
deep and I try to find out who are the sources?
(26:00):
Where did this start? Who are the people?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Fiona Broom. She tracked her lineage back to the Knight's
templar from the Crusades, So we have to ask these questions.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Talking about generational curses.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Baby, Yeah, you know, what are we really What are
we really doing as a conspiratorial community. If we're literally
never believing anything, everything's vake, well we're never gonna get anywhere,
won And that's what they want. This goes back to
this cast Sunstein effect. They want us constantly living in fear,
living in paranoia, to the point that we don't know
(26:35):
anything anymore, and we don't even trust God. Listen with
the Mandela fact, we don't even trust the Bible anymore
as Christians. I mean, that's insane to me. I'm gonna
be honest with you. I have done some massive research
on it, and I got a ton of backlash on
that episode, and I don't care because at the end
of the day, I'm gonna stand up for what's right.
(26:55):
And if we're gonna sit here and act like so
many things these things are going on, what are we doing? Hey,
you might as well jump off a cliff we're living
in some gnostic realm of the matrix, which that's a
whole other rabbit hole of the Gnostics, and how narcissism
is interwoven within our government right now. They all want
us to not have trust in faith in God at
(27:17):
the end of the day, because when you have that troubles,
you don't fear anything anymore. None of this stuff matters.
When this stuff's going on, You're just like, man, I
don't care. Man, listen, you know what's so refreshing for
me was all this crazy stuff going on over in
Israel right now, and I didn't care. I was so
happy to not care. And I'm not saying I didn't
care in the sense of I don't care about people,
(27:40):
or I don't care about my family. It's not that
I'm not aware of what's going on. But what I
do know is with Christ, with God, I am in
his will. So no matter what happens, man, at the
end of the day, I'm going to be okay. And
I think that's what I'm trying so hard to push
into this community. And I get it. I get a
(28:00):
ton of heat and a ton of backlash of people
for coming with this positive attitude in this space because
people love the negativity, you know, you know, it's so funny.
I'll listen to people on the right scream at the
woke left for being so negative. I'm like, dude, you
were just talking about the most crazy stuff a minute ago,
and you talk about the world was ending, like you're
(28:20):
just as bad. Like, we have to realize that as people,
we can only control one thing, our relationship with God
and who we are. When we get that, when we
move forward with it, it doesn't mean we're not gonna make
mistakes for human doesn't mean that we're not gonna fall
on our faces because we are human. But at the
end of the day, we're gonna keep pressing forward and
(28:41):
we're just gonna slowly shed these layers of fear that
these entities are trying to throw at us every day.
And when we get to that point, man, you really
just you don't care about the evil that's going on
around you in the way that you did. Right, We're
gonna be careful and take care of our families and
take care of our friends and take care of the
people around us, but we're also looking for reasons to
(29:04):
help people. We're also looking for reasons to grow. We're
looking to have fun too, man. Shoot, you know how
many people in the conspiratual community just throw fun out
of the window and act like, oh, you can't do nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh God, I have to be honest with you. Three things.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know people that are so dark in the conspiracy
world and so deep into it that they become black pills. You,
my friend, are the first white pill I've ever had
on the show today. And it's very, very refreshing because
now I think I know where I'm I think I
know where my niche is too. Like I've decided with
all this information, like what about hope? Why do we
(29:42):
always have to be hopeless? Like why does everything end
like no? Like come on, rejoice, we can't have that,
Like what the heck?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, the empty void and misery needs to be
filled with something dark and more people dark. And it's
just the type of energy you attract. You could be
a conspiracy theorist, but you could also be spiritual, and
people always try to bide those things.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
If you like a conspiracy theorist, Bro, you're.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Looking at it as like, yo, I saw it as
a conspiracy, that Titanic as our chemtrails. I seen Alistair Crowley.
Oh wait, he's gonna be spiritual? What the heck? And
then I turned it around, turned it around and went
to the Bible, and then I met Jesus and I
was like, holy snap, dude, all of the freaking conspiracy
(30:31):
theorists are already here.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
They're right here. Bro. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's amazing that you guys. It's amazing to see how
people fight, fight their own turmo, their own demons, their
own egos, and try to like, oh, but like I
have this speaker on and I'm better. And today even
what happened on Saturday, the bombings, right, I was aware
of the bombings. I just didn't engage on social media again.
(30:57):
Remember full right before we end, full of social media
is now the mainstream. I've always said, I told you
that before we recorded. And then people were messaging in
the chat rooms and messaging me straight, like.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Directly, what do you have to say about this?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
My best friend calls me, I think this sec you're
over here sucking orange Man's penis, And.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I was like, what, I spend some time.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I played PS five, I ate chicken wings. I disengage
from social media, and I was like, you know, how
refreshing it was to have all this drama outside and
I keep up with it and just serve myself with
my two feet lay and enjoy some of the you know.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The hard work of my labor, and just chill with
God a little bit. Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's humanizing, It centers you, bro, Believe it or not,
Yo Free the Rabbits.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Bro, Yeah, that's gonna be a hashtag. That's gonna be
a thing.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Let me know when we're tied, where they can find you, bro.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, you can find me at Link Tree Slash, Joel
Thomas Media and that'll get you to literally everywhere. I'm
a musician. I have music coming out all the time.
I've been doing that for a better part of twenty years.
But I would see in the past four years music
definitely changed in the presentation that I was giving it,
especially when I found my way back to God and
(32:21):
obviously the way that I was looking at the world
around me right it started to change, and I think
definitely for the positive. I also make films. You can
find those at merkelefilms dot com. We have a brand
new film coming out July twenty seventh, and it's gonna
be really good. We worked with another team who studies
(32:43):
this particular area. We actually had to sign NDA's before
even going out there, so I can't even talk about
where we're at. You just get to see it. So
it's gonna be really cool. And the podcast you can
find it on any platform YouTube. You can find me
on Spotify, Apple, podcast Rumble, any that you listen or
watch podcasts. You can find Free the Rabbits just type
(33:04):
in Free the Rabbits. But again, if you go to
link tree slash Joel Thomas Media, you can get to
everything there, all the things that I do, and yeah,
that's where you can find me.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yo. It was an amazing, amazing and humbling pleasure to
have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm glad that we linked up. This episode is good.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I mean, look, Bro, we've had We've had people talking
about leaving religions and leaving cultic stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
We've had people about sirial killers.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
We've had documentary episodes, so people that talk about being
deep into the sex life important and then coming out
and being full on Christians.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
It's very very important.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
To testify and tell people your roots and how you're
doing better, how you're a better person on the day
to day out of very basic and keeping it very simple.
In fact, the beginning of every show in the theme song,
you start with kids, keep it simple, stupid. That's all
this stands for. And this is what it means. You're
keeping it simple off the cuff. You don't have to
(34:04):
have an agenda. So I want to thank you again
from the bottom of my heart. Make sure, ladies and
gentlemen to check out Free the Rabbits podcast, mercle Media.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
All those dudes out there kicking, but make sure you
check them out.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Ladies and gentlemen, please like, subscribe and freaking share the
buttons right here.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't know how to deal with that YouTube stuff, guys.
I'm not a visual guy. You can tell guys come
on anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Still, check us out on YouTube, check us out on
all the other stuff, check us out of parentradio dot com,
and drop a five star review on Apple podcasts on
Spotify that allows other people to enjoy the show as
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
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