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September 29, 2025 46 mins
Two hosts, one vibe. Trebles Garcia and Alex from The Testimonial Podcast sit back and chop it up on growth, fatherhood, IVF struggles, faith, and the wild ways technology crosses paths with Christianity. No script, no agenda—just Raw Talks that hit real.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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(00:31):
bank of knowledge. Welcome back to parent the Radio Podcast,
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. I am troubles Garcia.
You're a humble host, and I want to thank the
Lord for I'm going to be here today, and I
want to thank every single one of you for I'm
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I have an amazing episode lined up with an amazing
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(01:36):
on the poem set though freaking mood. Please welcome my
next special guest. He's never been here before. He's starting
off his own podcast. He's part of the pot Alliance
conversation group that we have uplifting peoples and souls. I
think his perspective in life is beautiful. He is a father,
I believe he is also a husband and a god
fiery man, and he is one of the most talented
people that I've met recently. Please give a warm welcome

(01:57):
to Alex Lloyd from the Testimonies podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
What's up, Big Do Trebus? What's up Baby?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
What to do? What to do with do? How are
you bro? Good to see you? Good time? You on
the show man, I am great dude.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, we were planning on doing this and then
they kind of sprung a surgery of on me that
I forgot about. That was all me forgot about it.
And then they told me about the surgery again, and
I was like, all right, let's just see if we
can knock all this out. So I may be a
little sliced up, but I'm here for paranoid Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I won't take more than thirty forty minutes. If you're
over your time, bro, I do cherish you, cherish the moment.
And I also thank you for donating this time and
knowledge to the show and to every single listener. Guys,
if you haven't already done so, like sharing, subscribe, but man,
let them know where they can find you. Please.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh you can catch my link tree. You'll find all
my platforms on there, but it's the Testimony Podcast. But
link Tree the Force last and then Testimony Podcast. Find
all my platforms there, or you can go to the
Testimony pod dot com. That's the official website of it.
It is early, it is new, it's gonna get worked on.
Please bear with me, guys. I love you all, but

(03:02):
you can catch me at all those find my platforms
there found the Patreon. If you want support, please give
a shout out hop on there and support guys. I
love you all.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
The description is going to be on the link is
going to be on the description of this show for
anybody that's interested, and we're also going to be giving
you guys an access all access to what he has
to talk about on today's conversation Alex. First of all,
what does your show revolve around?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Testimonials? I think you're going to get a whole plethora
of people coming in on a show different creeds, different
sizes and races, different colors and speech patterns, different thoughts,
and different testimonials with deep rooted conversations not only would
throw a biblical lens, I suppose, but also with inspiring
testimonies for everybody to get inspired by what's going on Bro.

(03:46):
What made you push off the Edgewall was one of
those stories that really made you think, I got a
change and pivot into this realm.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Man. So it kind of changed to me because like
growing up the way I did it was kind of rough,
you know, I looked at little things like man, I
was one of those big I got really depressed on
my own just because I did. I pushed everybody else away.
My life I thought was super hard. But then as
I got older, you know, I got around people who
got to experience things that to me I thought were hard.

(04:14):
To them, it was just another day in the life
because they were dealing with so much more. And then,
you know, you hear stories like that here and there,
like you see it on Facebook, you see the little
the little post here and there, you see a video
on YouTube about it. And the thing that got me
wondering was like, you know, you hear these stories, and
when you see that, especially somebody like me who was

(04:36):
just going out of a digson, I don't see that
as something I could do. I don't see that I
could get on any type of platform and tell my
story just because not bro well, you know, not just
like pride, but like embarrassment. You don't want to people
to get tell like to get on there and tell
everybody your whole life. A lot of people say, you
don't want to tell people your whole life on social media.
M right, there's some of these people that get on

(04:58):
there and could tell just a piece their story and
it could change so many lives. Man, it's wild.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's a ripal effect. You know, somebody that has a
very interesting life. She gave me seven episodes to seven
inspiring episodes to talk about her life and how it changed,
and going in from different parts not only of her age,
but every single part of that age gap, like every
single from like young child, from young to an adolescent,

(05:29):
to being married, her first marriage, her second marriage, and
then finally the peaceful area where she's had in her life,
children and problems and different jobs and everything. Everything is
a beautiful novel. Is a Janet from the Probe Nation.
She's my pod mom, my real life mom, if anything now,
and she gave me an amazing testimony. Bron, I'm telling you, Bro,

(05:50):
some people's lives changed it. It indifferitely impacted me. It impacted
many people. I myself, I am a recovering addict of math,
bro and alcohol. And I'm gonna tell you something right now,
there's nothing more beautiful to be able to speak with
people and even and put it on the internet. You
know why put it on the internet, because everything else
is on the internet. We were just conversating right now

(06:11):
on a life with the Biblical head man, and we
were on life talking talking about how they are the elite,
Satan and all the other side. I want to say,
it has complete an ugly obsession on keeping us docile
and controlling our habits and injecting themselves into our kid's mind,
allowing them to question their authority, question the gender, and

(06:36):
disconnect them from the almighty Creator, the highest above power.
And then I'm like, mighty, all high, why do they
want to disconnect you from us? I understand now, I
know what it is. The stars have fallen, they're here.
They control the media, the propaganda, the things that we consume.
They have us controlled by controlling a time. They let
let us know when we clock in, when we take

(06:57):
a dump, when we eat. We are in a hamster
rays of only producing, producing, consuming, consuming that we forget
to profess, provide and protect, you know. And then who
are these people telling us how we got to live influencers?
It used to be the mainstream media. Now it's people
like you and I. Now it's people on the internet.
So the idea of being a recovering addict and sharing

(07:19):
that testimony on the internet is as impactful as they
are trying to impact our children. It's very important to
share those things, Bro, from the beginning to end. And yeah, man,
so I just wanted to share that with you. Given
one of the testimonies, Bro, that really broke your heart
and also impacted you, rooted you on your show.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Ooh, I'll give a I'll give a quick one as
to what got me even to take a little bit
of faith and step into church. And like you know,
growing up, my granddad was a pastor, so I always
felt like I was kind of forced to go to church.
So in high school I held a lot of resentment
of that. I was an atheist in a sense, I
don't believe. I believe what I could see and what

(08:01):
I saw is fact, which is a very arrogant thing.
It's an arrogant thing to think, you know what I mean,
because there's not a single person on the planet, and
AI will even show people that now nobody knows everything.
And if a computer has monology, and you imagine what
has more knowledge in that computer? And that's that's to me,
is just it's too it's too complex for a human
mind even gap and which to me, I went a

(08:25):
long time thinking that you know what I what I
could see was true, and everything else to me was not.
So I had different I had weird beliefs like I
I just didn't believe a god to let certain things happen.
And that was because of my own ignorance to not
know the Bible. And I always felt like I had
this calling to be a pastor. So like being around

(08:47):
other pastors, being around my granddad in the church, being
around stuff like that, I felt like I had a
little calling to be a pastor. But I also didn't believe.
So like I feel like I have this fire in
my stomach and I got I just I got to
get into the church more her, but I didn't want
to do it. And uh, I started going to church
with my wife and we've been together for a long
long time, high school sweethearts. I love her. Did that

(09:09):
and uh, I was going to church as an atheist
for the longest and that the church that I was
going to showed me a different type of love. They
showed me a family. So I started to have a
little bit of faith.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sounds like a gang here in LA. That's what they do.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It makes you feel it makes you feel good to
know you got other people that care. Man, it's a blessing.
And so like that started to kind of turn my
mind a little bit. Well, then I get to the
point of where I'm I'm like, all right, well, maybe
my wife she taught at the church. Since since we
got together, she had been like helping with his ministry
and stuff like that. Well, I was like, maybe maybe
I should go ahead and give it a try. Before

(09:45):
I even go to talk to the pastor, it had
been on my mind. I just just got to where
I started praying, like me personally praying because I always
I don't know, I thought I didn't If I didn't believe,
why would I pray? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So I I got to where I just started praying,
and I was like, I accepted that I'm at work.
I I you know, I worked for this airplane service
around here. We have crop dusters, the yellow planes that
fly around and spread the grounds. So I was working
for one of those at flight service. And this guy
that had not been there all year, he had not
been there the entire season. I haven't seen him since

(10:20):
last year. The season's coming to a en. He got
like three weeks left, and he comes. He pulls up
and I see him, you know, I go out there
and shake his hand and everything, and other than saying hi,
the first thing he jumps into is, hey, man, you
know you ever thought about being a pastor? He didn't know.
I ain't talked to this man in a year. I
have not seen him. He hadn't been at work at
least with us, in the whole year. So I'm just

(10:42):
just the first thing he's saying to me. He didn't
know anything that was on my heart. So I'm like that,
you know, he caught me off guard because now it's
one of those moments. I was like, all right, I
ain't trying to cry because I don't know what he's
about to say, but I got to make sure that
it's really God speaking and not just some crazy coincidence.
I don't believe coincidents.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now word conspiracy theorist to either. Yeah, it's just doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And uh So he gets me in and he's just
he starts talking and he was like, hey man, well,
I was put in this situation a long time ago
where I thought I had the same calling, and I
don't know if you have the calling or not, but
I'm just gonna tell you my experience. And I felt
like I missed that calling and That's why I do
what I do now. So like even right now, I
feel like Guy's telling me to tell you that if
you if you feel like you have that call, and
take that step before you miss your chance. Wall I

(11:24):
was like, brother, all right now, and that's what you know.
That's when I had to go ahead and I started crying.
You know I could. I couldn't handle hearing that because
that's a different type of feeling knowing that, all right,
this is thing I've been praying about. I didn't know
what was going on. I haven't seen this man in
an entire year. He said nothing to me, and then
he breaks into this. He's been here for ten minutes
and he's got me prying, talking about church, talking about

(11:46):
Jesus and about how his opportunity, his experience could also
affect somebody else. That's the that was the first o opener.
Is like, man, somebody else's story can change at least
one life because they changed mind. That's why I took
it serious. That's why I wanted to the church and
ask the pastor. I was, hey, if I have it,
I feel like I had this calling. What do I do?
I don't I don't know how to pursue this. You know,

(12:06):
I've I watched my granddad be a pastor, but I've
never started trying to learn ministry myself. And he was like,
we'll just starting kitchener. So I started there and Bro,
that's that. That right there changed my whole life just
because of one person telling me he thought he missed
his chance for an opportunity. So now he has to
go and tell people when he sees them that he

(12:26):
feels like he has the word for God to tell him,
not that he gets to be a pastor every Sunday
and let everybody know that he sees that Jesus is king.
You know what I mean. That's that's a crazy scenario.
It's I miss I want to say, missed that opportunity
to feel like you did, mm hmm. Because everybody's got
the opportunity. I mean, that's that's wholeheartedly. I mean, if
you have the chance to, I mean even the random

(12:47):
homeless first as you see on the street, give him
a dollar. If you just give him a dollar and
don't mess it. Hey man, you know Jesus is that
dollar can help. It's going to help him do the
one thing he wanted to get it for. Anyway is
whether it's eat or buy whatever he wanted to buy.
But if you don't tell them who the game is,
he's missing out on an opportunity to be saved, just
like everybody else is. That's yeah, you got to take
every opportunity from now. And that's the way I look

(13:08):
at it. I mean, he took an opportunity by telling me,
and I feel I could saved my life.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, thank God, bro, that's really that's really powerful. God
works in mysterious ways. Sometimes the way you pray for
things and he answers your prayer are the most I'm
telling you, Bro, Nonchalan and also unexpected ways. Bro, You're

(13:33):
right about the coincidence. There's no coincidences in life. There's
only cause and effect. And life is like poker, Bro.
You get doubted your own, you get dealted different hands
every single player, and some of us get good hands,
some of us get bad hands. But we all have
the opportunity. We all have the chance to place the bet,
So don't miss that opportunity to place that bet. I've

(13:53):
seen people win massive porker games with the worst hands ever,
So it's only no matter how you how you play
a card and don't don't skip that beat. So I'm
happy that you found you. So you now you're in ministry,
that's what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Now. I'm not a pastor in a sense, so I
am ordained in a way, if that makes any sense,
Like you can get ordained online. I did that, And
to me, it feels like a disrespectful thing now that
I'm actually pursuing trying to teach and like serve and
stuff in the church, just because it wasn't like I

(14:27):
didn't follow through an actual ministry school to get the
degree I did. To me, it seems that it really
shouldn't be possible. Like I understand if you just want
to marry like your granddad, you want to marry your
granddaughter or something like that, you want to be the
guy that is that significant figure in that decision. But
to be able to get simply ordained for one hundred dollars,

(14:50):
to me, it seems like a very disrespectful thing. And
I honestly didn't think it would be that easy. And
when it when it came in the mail, I'm just
it blew my mind because how did this half asleep
in the morning. Anybody can get it ordered, anybody can
go around saying hey, I'm reverend whoever and say that
they're preaching the word and be giving a That's what

(15:13):
scares me because you don't know what they're actually teaching you.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I like that you brought the way you brought that
in well, I like to call him the last airbender. Satan.
Where's a thousand masks? Gives you a million different ways
to confuse you. He lies to you, bro In fact,
some of the many, many of those tools that he

(15:38):
has breached has been parts of Christianism, at least not Christianism,
but the religion right man made religion. Weak minds, people
that have morals and values that are twisted, and believe
it or not, some of these people have weaponized it.
I know people even in a podcasting game and podcasting

(16:00):
community that decide and these are way successful podcasters, podcasters
that are threefold four times bigger than this show, and
that they have ordained themselves and also collected Christian speakers

(16:20):
that are ordained to come on the show so that
they could register it as a ministry and not pay taxes. Insane,
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's the way. I love the way God works. So
we haven't talked anything about any of this before we
got on the show. So that's part of the reason
why I'm turning this into an LLC and not a nonprofit.
If I do that, in my eyes, coming from somebody
looking at I'm trying to look from the outside end.
If I start a podcast and I bring these people
on and it is a nonprofit, if I do it

(16:52):
as a nonprofit, for one, it's gonna seem like I'm
asking people for money for other people's stories. And then
to me, that would feel like I'm taking advantage of
these people, and that's not what I want to do.
If I turned into a business, I can pay them
for their time, they can get paid. I'll have to
pay taxes at the end of the year, just like
everybody else who makes any money has to pay taxes.

(17:13):
So again, as bad as I don't want to do that,
I could take the easier oute turn into a nonprofit.
But to me, it feels more wholesome and more understanding
to y'all, because say, I do have like right now,
I have a lovely group from our church and a
few family members. I have a few fans that I
would say support me because they know what I want
to do, Like right now.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
My wife.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
You've mentioned you thought we had kids, so we are
currently trying. We've been trying for seven years and still
no luck. Kind of like my wife, she's infertile and
we're in the process of trying to figure it out
without having to spend money on IPF. But to me,
it feels like a run out of time. And if
I take money that I've made through the business and

(17:58):
I do pay for that, un let y'all know, Oh,
like the fans, Hey, I'm gonna start taking the chance.
So we're gonna start trying for a baby in any
way we can. I'm gonna take some money and do that.
I can say that and know that it's not coming
from a nonprofit and people think that I'm stealing from
a charity. I'm taking from the business that I'm running,
and I'm trying to better my life, give it my
wife a child because I know she wants that more

(18:19):
than anything to work, And to me, that feels more
right for the people, the more right for the fans.
The people are that are gonna be supporting this thing.
To know that I'm gonna pay taxes to I'm not
gonna do anything shady, any big money I spend, you'll
know it because it'll be on camera. Anyways, if I'm transparent,
I feel like more people will actually follow this thing
and support the people that do come home, because I

(18:39):
will be able to still have like gofundmes for the
people that come on. So if you say I decided
to come to California film for years, and you want
to have people just donate to you because they support
your calls, they support Paranoor Radio, they can directly support you.
They can donate directly to you. It doesn't have to
be a come through my nonprofit scenario and then me
donate to can donate directly to you. And I'm trying

(19:01):
to make sure that it's I'm trying to make sure
it's people friendly man, not just in a sense of
like everybody can be a part of this thing and
see what I have going on the entire time. I
want to be transparent through the entire process because if
somebody else wants to start something like this, I just
don't want them to fall into the wrong the wrong reins.
Like I could very well make this a nonprofit. I

(19:22):
could very well turn this thing into a church. I
have a lot of people calling to a ministry, and
that kind of hurts. Man. It's not that I don't
want this to be a ministry. I don't want this
to be looked at by anybody as an exploit situation,
whether it be tax right off or me trying to
preach the word. As a matter of fact, I got
a Bible right here. I don't know anything in this

(19:45):
thing other than a few books that I've read myself
and what I've studied here and there. Have I read
this thing front to back? No, I am trying to
and I don't know if anybody else has ever tried
to read the Bible comes from my situation. It's hard
to keep it not together, but keep it steady so
I could pick it up every single day. I'm working
on that. But I can relate to anybody else that's

(20:07):
watching any of these things that I'm doing. I'm learning
just as much as y'all. I know a few books
here and there. It's crazy because I'm teaching kids that
are in I'm helping my wife teach kids that are
in fifth and sixth grade on Sundays, and I'm teaching
third and fourth grade on Wednesdays, and I'm learning just
along with them. These are third and fourth graders. I'm
learning stuff that I've never even known, like the Book

(20:28):
of e Hood. Never even heard of the story of Ehud,
never heard anything about that. Learned that three weeks ago
just because I was never taught that. But I also
never picked up my Bible. And that's what gets me
is there's things you can do and fall into the
wrong ropes of. With me saying those same lines, I'm
also ordained that makes me look like a in my opinion,

(20:53):
a terrible person because I have a what would you
call it, a not a name. But if I was
to say I was Reverend Alex Lloyd, I could do that,
but I don't feel right enough in my heart to
actually do that. But I was just honestly trying to
see how easy it was. And it breaks my heart

(21:14):
is how easy it is. It breaks my heart is
how easy it is to get up here in a
situation like mine, bring people on and tell their stories,
and for people to look at me and think, oh,
this man is perfect. Like there's this one guy on
a Facebook. You might have seen him. I can't think
of his name, Scott blonde hair. He goes up and
praise for random homeless people all the time. He's amazing

(21:37):
at what he does. I guarantee you people look at
him and think that he could read the Bible or
recite the Bible front the back. I can't. But my
adgtion and ruin my brain. My memory is trash. I'm
relearning a lot of things, and for me, it's it's humbling.
It's very, very humbling because I don't know a lot.
I'll say that I feel like I have a decent IQ,

(21:58):
but in the same sense, I can't remember what I
did two weeks ago. So it's I'm still learning as
I go. I'm learning as I grow. I'll say it like.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
That iron sharpens iron. So you shouldn't be like, please don't,
and I really I don't think you do, but you
know to mention what's worth you don't. You're learning with
those kids. That's how I should be, because it resonates
with them, it gives them, it gives them hope, and
it also sharpens you up as the way, and not

(22:32):
because I'm a Bible thumping Christian warrior, because I'm not.
But I do know that in order to be accepted,
you must come to God as a child. You need
to be in need of him. You need to be afraid,
you need to be willing to learn with an open
open palms and open heart. So the transformation for you

(22:53):
is still the journey is still here, and it's important
that we share that with the people because there is
so many of us going through it right now. I've
I'm an addict of conspiracy theorists. Theorist I can't. I
don't turn off TV on I have it for sure.
I have it because sometimes my wife likes to watch Netflix,
but I don't. I don't watch TV. I don't listen

(23:15):
to music, and if I do listen to anything, it
has to be eighties music. I don't listen to anything else,
not because I'm old or anything. I'm not. I'm only
thirty four years old. Bro from the nineties. I grew
up with Lil John, Lil Wayne, from the Windows to
the Wall, That's what I grew up with. That stuff,
like the dirty South music stuff I there's But now,

(23:38):
because of the journey that I've into, because I stopped
drinking and stopped using consuming stuff, I've learned that that
everything that I consumed, everything would stay and replay in
my mind when I would sleep. Then the next morning,
I would want to pick up a beer and drink
some more spark up that doobiet, get freaking faded with

(24:02):
some with some weed and call women bitches. And see
what I'm saying? I got two I got two daughters.
Bro See what I'm saying. If I don't start changing
my perspective, if I don't stop changing my mind and
my body? First, how do I expect my children to

(24:23):
obey me, to fear me, or to do right? It's okay,
they don't want to bay me or fear me. That's fine.
They want to be little rebels. Cool, But how do
I expect them to grow up to be significant women,
daughters and wives? How do I want? How am I
going to say you should be if I never was?

(24:44):
How am I going to lead by example? My oldest
is fourteen years old. She's every calm, she has her
mom's attitude, very chill, little girl. She's a little she's
a local head in academics, but overall she a very
good girl. And I can tell that she loves money

(25:05):
Right now, she asked me for a freaking purse that's
costs four hundred bucks her birthday. She's gonna be a
fifteen November. And then I told her four hundred bucks
for a purse game, I'll buy it for you. Cool,
but I'm not going to buy it for you. You're
gonna earn the money. And she's like, you're gonna earn
the money. You're gonna we're gonna trade time because you

(25:26):
want me to give my time and my effort, my sweat,
my freaking blood, and to go to work every single
day and provide for you and give buy you your
luxury stuff. What are you gonna give me? You know?
So you're gonna you're gonna give me some of your time,
and you're gonna learn how much it is to get
these first one hundred dollars in four sections. And she

(25:47):
she agreed. Today is the first day she's she's on
a tural run today and she's done it before with me.
So I'm teaching her that and not to say, in
the same process, I'm allowing her to grow mature and
also see the worth of money, see the worth of
how hard it is for me to get it, so
that she can get it right. Then I got my youngest.
We were talking about how again they infiltrated everything, they've

(26:12):
grabbed your imagination. They've captured your imagination. That is Disney's slogan.
By the way, hashtag look it up. And you're like,
how does my three year old daughter know this? She's
a right little girl. She picked up after me. She
has my attitude. And I look at her and I'm like, oh,
you're gonna be You're gonna give me trouble. And I'm

(26:32):
looking at her and she goes, she knows exactly what
the rainbow is. You know what's funny. She doesn't connect
the rainbow to the Bible. She connects the rainbow to
gay figurines and stuff on YouTube. Do you know why
that is? Because of allowed somebody else to influence her.

(26:53):
It is my job as a father for her to
do to make sure that she recognizes the rainbow as
God's gift, in God's symbol, not everything else. You see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Broke Absolutely Yes. So while dude, and it hurts because
I'm a wife. Teachers kindergarten, so they'll have certain things
that it's not that the school in itself tries to
push anything mesatopic for a different conversation, but it comes
to where you have certain things that are instilled in

(27:27):
these kids and like giving them a tablet and certain
things like that. YouTube is so accessible. I know when
I was a kid, I don't even know if this
will get your thing flagged or not. They used to
have this thing called besscore dot com do that. As
a thirteen, fourteen year old, twelve year old kid, I
should not be watching anything on websites like that, But
I was able to watch that because I didn't have

(27:49):
parents watching me watch what I was on the computer
looking at that, didn't have nobody over my shoulders seeing
what I was doing and checking on me. And that's
where you have to be in your kid's life, where
you're actually checking to see what they have going on
with like this. It's funny to me because I was
I was, I experienced a lot more than I should have,
a lot earlier than I should have. So when I

(28:11):
see other kids that are like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, like
the rodbox scenario where the mom walked in it had
the two rowbox smashing, and you know, it's crazy because
you would see people that are like fourteen, fifteen and
sixteen and stuff getting in trouble for that, whereas I
was like ten doing those things eleven doing those things
because I was exposed to the wrong type of environment

(28:34):
too early, or I had to access to the wrong
type of environment too early. And it's it shapes your mind.
Like your daughter seeing the rainbow is that And it's
not because of anything that you're doing, but it's because
of literally everything else around her in the world. It's
not just it's not just the TV. It's anything you

(28:54):
turn on, whether you if whether you open a new
newer age kids book, it'll still be something in there
that's pushing that, which is a very scary scenario.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, they've connected themselves. We were talking about
nephil bloodlines and all these conspiracy topics and genesis and
the seed war and other stuff, and I told them, yeah, bro,
It's one thing is to see it and realize it
as a human being as an adult, I mean as
a man, right, where we can see stuff and we

(29:24):
can disconnect it from our emotions and then take like
a critical thought and then a thought out decision decision,
right and and and activate. Another thing is you recognize
it in children. So you see kids acting gay they're

(29:45):
grown up with not that I'm batching on any people
that are gay, or anything. But they grow up thinking
I was born like this. No, you weren't born like that.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
You were you were You were conditioned, you were influenced,
you were brought up in that world, and there was
no nobody there to show you otherwise. The father of learning,
repetition is the father of learning. How did you learn?
How how did you learn your ABC's through through song
and through repetition? A, B, C, D and so forth

(30:13):
and so forth. Right, how do you know that the
world is a spinning ball? Because that's what you've been taught.
You haven't taught. You haven't been taught anything else. That's
what you've been That's what you That's what you've learned
on every single thing that you've opened, consumed to watch,
the every movie, every song, everything is now you even
have a space program with the government, you have NASA.
That this is how you know that the world is around.

(30:35):
So if anybody else comes and tells you that the
the world is flat, whoa, Oh my god, your eyes
glazed over and then you white because you haven't been
taught anything else. I'm not saying I'm a flat earth,
you guys. I'm just saying the point of the story
is they repeat these things, erase history, control the narrative
from a very young age so that then your testimony

(30:57):
is never told, so that you never get to grow
and be sovereign or at least have an intimate relationship
with God. That's what they really want to do, disconnect
you from the Creator. And there's so many people living
through that right now.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I remember when I was a kid, it was so
hard to get in contact with the Internet alone. We
had dial up and it would make that stupid sound.
If my mom in the other room would answer or
pick up the line, she would just connect the internet.
You see what I'm saying, the bro, it was insane.
We cannot you know, I grew up playing dodgeball, basketball,

(31:34):
skateboarding outside in the street, bro, instead of being My
mom used to scream at me to get to get
inside the house instead of going outside of the house.
Now I'm having a problem with my oldest where she
doesn't have a social life except for social media, and
she thinks that because you didn't get a hundred likes
on your post, you don't have a high status. As

(31:56):
I if that's what gives you status in.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Life, you know, it's crazy about that. You know, it's
crazy about that when as a kid growing up with
like social media coming later for us. So I graduated
in fourteen to where we had iPhones, but nothing like
we have nowadays, where right now I can have four
different apps pulled up. My computer's not going to crash,

(32:17):
my phone's ring into, my phone's not going to crash.
I can look at like TikTok go was my mind
because back in high school, the thought of to me,
it just seems crazy. The thought of watching a video
for three seconds and then scrolling away seemed wild. We
had vine, but it was still like it was a
new concept, whereas nowadays I've seen kids have a tablet,

(32:38):
a phone and be playing the Xbox, all running doing
the same thing which you're you're developed earlier to in
my sense, like I feel like you're writing in a
point that it it desensitizes you from, in my opinion,
everyday life, real life. It's pulling you away from the
things that are surrounding you. So like even just experiencing

(32:59):
like I saw a post the other day, it blew
my mind and I'd never thought about it since I
was a kid. But you don't see kids going outside
and building sketchy ramps anymore. For bikes, I don't see
any kids on bikes. There's like two. There's two kids
that I see that ride a bike. And the thing
that surprises me is that it's two kids that are
not as well off. They don't have the money to

(33:20):
have these tablets. They don't have the money for these phones.
So they have to get out and do the same
things that we did as kids, go out and experience
life like we're meant to do.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
They The advancement of technology works both ways.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You know people are saying, oh, the Bible could be
a double edchord. Yes, the Bible can be a doublet sword.
Intent is everything. Then you have your computer, your computer
devices here. Yeah, I've every single piece of information in
humankind written history in milliseconds at your fingertips right here,

(34:00):
right now, and it works for you to interact with
the world. The thing is that it's also designed to
interact with you, so it knows the highs in the
loads of your dopamine levels, your heart rate, when your
peopils dilate, when when you're wearing a mask, when you're

(34:21):
wearing glasses, when you're driving, when it's night, when it's dark.
It likes the stuff. You know how I know it
likes the stuff that you like to watch at night
versus that day. I could be in my bed and
after nine pm. I go to sleep at nine ten
pm because I wake up two to three in the
morning to go to work. So if it's nine pm,

(34:47):
I call it death scrolling. I'm death scrolling on Instagram
trying to look for the next post that I could share.
You know what pops up? Only fan of girls asn't titties? Baby?
Do you know why? Do you know why? Because I've
stopped and looked at it for a couple of seconds.
Why doesn't it do that when I'm at work? Is

(35:08):
it because of your location or is it because it
sees how I interacted with it? For those split five seconds.
When I'm at work and I'm at my lunch break
and I'm eating, I'm scrolling. But I'm always looking for
the next conspiracy theory. I'm looking for a Bible verse,
or I'm looking for conspiracy topics or something different, or

(35:29):
I'm working on editing on the show. But why is
it that specific time from nineteen eleven when I'm trying
to go to sleep? Ass pops up. I know why
because they know how my algorithm is. And Internet, the
Wi fi Ai even is a complete reflection of you.
You are the only algorithm, which is why you are

(35:55):
the what's it called? When something is free? You are
the product. You are the center of it. This is
why ancient the ancient omics and the ascis they they
worshiped themselves or the priests they worshiped themselves. Why because
they knew that they were in charge of the algorithm,
the organic algorithm of the earth. We are the ones

(36:16):
that would have power to control magic and the logical
duality and all of that that was that's in the Bible,
it was presented to us. So I'm like, oh, look
at that, bro. So it knows, it knows me. When
you when I talk to my CHGBT, you knows exactly
what I want to hear what I want. This is
why it's important to when you caption and when you
give an order to CHARGBT, you have to be non

(36:38):
biased and you have to reframe your order, read it
three or four times before you ask the question, because
if you're not careful, it's going to give you what
you want to hear. Because it knows that you're an
emotional or you're emotionally response, Like your responses are emotional,
and it knows that it's going to trigger you and
gas like you to behave in a different way and

(36:58):
or go consume something that they want. They want to
sell you everything, bro, every single thing. And I'm like,
oh my god, now that I'm looking at it, dude,
we have been penetrated. And I'm not no gay, no homo.
We've been Our mind has been penetrated from all angles,
every single one of our angles, every single thing that

(37:18):
we consume, where we eat, where we breathe, where we smell, right,
where we fucking how we sleep, where we sleep, what
we do before we sleep. Before women will be opening
books and now they're opening TikTok.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yep, it makes it.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I'm like, dog, what the heck? Everything gets thrown off
the window, bro. And then yeah, I went on a
rant there.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Sorry, And see That's what scares me though, was like
with them constantly with everything constantly growing, So even with
AI coming around and eventually, I mean, I think there's
people that are already married to certain dolls. But when
it comes to AI becoming an actual person in the
sense when they have those functional robots that are in

(38:00):
people's houses, that are married to an actual person. When
it gets to that point, I mean, that's my biggest
spear is AI taking over just because to me, the
human brain cannot compute or even if you have one
hundred people in the same room, it's not gonna be
able to keep pace with artificial intelligence. And that's just

(38:21):
one So if it continues to grow and the computing
systems begin to get as smaller, I feel like it's
just gonna come to a head. But it scares me
because like when we get to the point of them
living with us and it being if everything that is
AI is able to be a promoted sense, So like
if anything AI speaks to you is, like you said,

(38:41):
trying to appeal to what you wanted to say, What
is it? What is it gonna? What could they possibly push?
So like if you're laying in bed next to your wife,
your your aife, and she decides to say, oh, honey,
you know, I think we should go to Hot Springs,
but there's a new casino open Hot Springs. Advertisement comes
through to the AI to go ahead and puist that casino.

(39:03):
The husband is just a normal person with a normal
human brain that computed as Oh, she loves me, wants
to go to Hot Springs, let's go check it out.
You go down there, check out the casino. And to me,
it's like there's so much that, like in my mind
that could go wrong with little things like that, because
there's so much influence, even like on kids, like you're
saying with the rainbow, it extends to adults too. If

(39:23):
there's an adult willing to marry a robot, he's willing
to believe that that person that robot is a person
has consciousness like us as a humans divine and just.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Gave it consciousness by believing in it. Yeah, exactly, take
action on that too, dude.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
It's wild. And I mean as a person like me,
I feel like what could I I feel like I'm
so small of a person. I'm a literal nothing to
nobody that I'm nothing in the spec of the grandsk.
I can't go in and change AI. But like you
were saying, iron sharpers iron, I think I got a

(39:58):
little thing behind me. Stronger together, brother, if you have
everybody come together about the scenario unstoppable, it's it's like ants.
If it's like one ants against it's like one badger
against an ant fuel. Who do you think is gonna
win that one? Mm hmm, Like it's it's wild just
because it's stronger in numbers. I mean, I think it
was if you take all the kangaroos in Australia and

(40:22):
you put them in I forget which state it was,
but everybody would have to fight like three kangaroos. I
don't think everyone. I don't think it could happen, you
know what I mean, Like, it's just there's so many.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
For the for the record, kangaroos are beasts of animals,
Bro would beat your ASTs.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I've only seen the ones in the zoos that looks
sick because they're not in their natural habits at they
just like you know, how's like you get the ones
it's like the baby is in the pouchs arms all
slow to like what are you doing in there? We
get big Bro in there with.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's nuts. You know, we've we've criminalized the truth. We've
we've traded uh uh, what's it called community for comfortability.
We've glorified it. No, no, no, we've worshiped being comfortable.
We've traded freedom for safety. And the world is upside down.

(41:21):
It's one insane life. That's why I always say, Bro,
you cannot do anything on a global scale that you
just said. I myself can't go out there and change
the government, for example. I can't by myself. I can't. No,
all I can do is change where my two feet

(41:42):
lay and worry about my household, where my piece of
my kingdom and the people I'm providing for. That's all
I can do. And everything else starts moving into its
own socket with those words, Bro, this converse, this refreshing conversation,
how to be done. I like the fact that we

(42:03):
didn't have an agenda, and we spoke. We were all
over the place. We brought some philosophy, we brought some
some peaceful conversations, and an introduction on the testimony podcast
let them know one more time where they can find you.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Check out the link tree. It's link tree with the
little forward slash, but the testimony podcast, or you can
go to the website at the Testimony pod dot com.
All the socials are on there. The merch is coming,
so when you click on that, you won't see anything
just yet, but give it two weeks. We're going to
have something on there. Guys, and I do want to
say I want to say one thing before we get

(42:36):
off here troubles because I know we kind of hinted
at the rainbow and the gay scenario and all this
other stuff. I want to say something that kind of
bothers me, and it'll be a good end to note,
because I don't like how there's so much hate being
brought upon people that have not been in the church
in a long time, but take the church and use
that as an excuse to be mad about something else.

(42:58):
Like so I post about a saying on Sundays after church,
don't come to the restaurant acting mad or something about
the food and talking about to the waitress when you
just left a servant. But the church didn't do that
to that person. That person has free will, just like

(43:18):
everybody else. So the person making the decision to treat
you some type of way is on them, not the church.
But another thing is when we speak about gay stuff
and everything like that, like homosexuality, anything along those lines,
or just even if we take it to the step
of somebody if they were a serial killer. The one
thing I love about Christianity is the fact that we

(43:39):
love everybody like there's not this one piece of I
get it. What you even a child predator. I hate
what you did. I hate the mindset you have. I
hate that the devil is stronger than anything you're trying
to overcome at that time. But he's not stronger than
what you were capable of overcoming with the help of God.
But that's where the love comes in and do it.
There's no hate between that. I don't like people saying

(44:01):
or ragging the church just because of things like church
hurt things they've had in the past, especially things like
people saying that Christians hate gay people. I don't hate anybody.
I got close family members that are gay. It's like
saying it's like a racist trying to say when I
got the one black friend. I'm not gay myself, so
I can't speak on it, but I can say that
if you come up to me and you tell me
you're gay, it doesn't change the fact that I love

(44:23):
you just as much as I love the next person.
Like I don't know what you got going in your
life troubles, but I love you just because I know
that you've been nice to me. That's all it takes
is for me to love you is to be nice
to me. You show me hate, I'm still gonna love you.
I might I might have to struggle with it, but
I'm still gonna look. And it's a scary scenario for
Christians like that when you have somebody that thinks so
bad about the church. I'm trying to tell everybody about God.

(44:44):
God changed my life, God saved me, and a little
bit of faith, faith of a mustard. See, it's all
it takes. If you can just instill that in one person. Brother,
that's all they need, because they might have never heard that.
They might not have had that one person that was confident
enough to come up to them and say, hey, man,
you've heard about Jesus. And that's that's what I want.
That's what I love about a platform like you got troubles,
but I came on here and I was I was

(45:06):
scrolling through past stuff. Like I was telling you, I've
seen so many different variations of stuff that you've been
able to witness on your podcast but also been able
to share, Like I'm learning with stuff that you're posting.
And I don't listen to conspiracy stuff, but you don't
always post conspiracy stuff. You post what you feel like
needs to be heard and I love that, dude. It's

(45:26):
a blessing. That's what I love a platform like this,
that's what I want The Testimony to be a platform
where people can be heard. Man, it's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
That Testimony podcast the next big theme. Make sure you
check him out Lidies and Gentlemen, Boys and girls. That
is Alex Lloyd from The Testimony's Post podcast and you
could find the link to his show on the description
of the show A So check out Flavors of the
Forest one more time, and guys, do not forget to
drop a five star review and Apple podcast in on Spotify.

(45:55):
It comes to my sexy boys. That allows so that
people to enjoy the show as much as I enjoy.
MA you need us.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I was always comparing radio.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, I
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