November 22, 2024 • 29 mins
What if the patterns of history could predict our future? Join us as we unravel the enigma of "The Fourth Turning" with our intriguing guest, Bryson, whose presence is charmingly punctuated by delightful baby noises. Together, we explore the fascinating world of historical cycles, or "speculums," examining how they shape generational roles and societal shifts. We dissect pivotal moments like JFK's assassination and the civil rights movement, highlighting the transformation from community-focused values to today's more fragmented individualism. Through this journey, we'll provide you with a fresh perspective on where we stand now—the "crisis" phase—and what may lie ahead.
In this episode, we also explore the intriguing roles each generation plays in these cycles. From Gen X as the adaptable builders akin to Henry Ford and Elon Musk, to millennials painted as the heroic generation poised to innovate and lead in times of crisis, like the courageous Parkland students. The conversation doesn't stop there; we also glimpse into the future through the lens of the emerging generation—the artists and peacemakers. Personal stories and even astrological signs are woven into this narrative, challenging you to reflect on these generational characteristics and consider their implications for our collective future.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey, he's not going to talk today.
Well, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Who knows what he's going to do?
We don't have no idea what he'sgoing to do.
Why don't you introduce ourspecial guest?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, guys, so here with us.
It's not making much noiseright now, but he never talks
when you want him to.
Yeah, bryson is in the house.
Yay, hold on yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Got late, missed the button.
It's been a little while.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, it's been a while.
He's been out the womb sevenmonths already, going towards
eight months.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Is that true?
What do you?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
mean Well, because time flies.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah so yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, so Bryson's in the house.
So if you hear a baby crying,or babbling or something.
It's not ghosts.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, but yeah, he's going to be in the studio.
Yeah, so today we are talkingabout the fourth turning and
what is it like the 4th of July?
A little bit, a little bitdifferent, but I will say, as
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everybody may or should know iswe recently had an election,
right, and Donald Trump is goingto be our next president here
in the united states, right.
Not everybody's super happyabout it, but it is what it is
and, because of what we knowabout the fourth turning, I can
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confidently say that therevolution is right on schedule.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
The revolution.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, so let's talk about what turnings are right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And so in time and in history, and this goes way back
, way back to like ancientGreece and all of this right.
And so there are sections oftime In Latin it's called
speculums right, uh-huh.
And so there are sections oftime In Latin it's called
speculums right or succulumsright Succulents, Succulents
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right, same same.
It means a section of historyright, A little slice of history
.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
These blocks of history are broken up into
80-year blocks.
History are broken up into 80year blocks and each of those
blocks has four, like it'sbroken up into four sections.
Okay, now you know the termbaby boomers and gen x and
millennials and all of thisthose right now we have alphas.
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Those terms are actually from abook that was written a long
time ago called generationsright, okay and then the same
people who wrote that book laterwrote a book called the fourth
turning.
This book was written in the1990s, during the third turning.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, right.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And so these people have gotten this ancient
knowledge and kind of brought itinto modern days.
Okay, mm-hmm, so if you in oursection right now, we are in the
fourth turning right now andthis is called the crisis, right
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?
So the 20 year section thatwe're in, it's called the crisis
.
Got, it Got it, and these arelike the millennials generation
Right, go back to the Gen Xgeneration, go back to the Gen X
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generation and their generation, or their section, I should say
their turning.
The third turning is called theunraveling, and then before
that it's called the awakening,and before that it's called the
high, the high.
So our, the high, yes, so ourgroup of history, our block of
history, started at the end ofWorld War Two.
So when they signed the twotreaties, right then, america
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had, like its best moments ever,right?
And so of course there wasinequality.
Segregation was still a bigthing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It was like around your time right Before.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But women couldn't vote, like being gay was illegal
and so it's not like good foreverybody.
It's true, it's not good foreverybody, but as far as the
country's concerned, this waswhen we were sending people to
space.
You could be a janitorsomewhere and be able to afford
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to buy a house.
There was a lot of good, alongwith people being marginalized.
That's still a section of it,but on the average it was pretty
good.
It was pretty good, right.
Well, the first section is overwhen JFK is assassinated.
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That was.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Bryson Right, yeah, that wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That was impressive, right, yeah, that wasn't me.
And so when JFK is assassinated, there's a bit of a like what
they call the awakening right,so the original section, right
the high.
There's a lot of community,like it's all about what's good
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for the country, all of thisstuff.
And so people if you knewpeople that were alive during-
then, and maybe yourgrandparents, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe it's how old was I going to find?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
so 72, 74 yeah, so he's in that, he's in that era,
but but he was young, right?
Yeah, but the people back thento fight the war, people
collected citizens, collectedcans and did things to support
the soldiers in World War II.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Like it was all about community, right yeah.
And like I said, there's stillmarginalized people, but
everybody's trying for one goal,right?
Everybody's together.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
To provide.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Right For the betterment of the whole country,
not just me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get it, getit.
And then so then JFK isassassinated, and so then you
start to have a little bit oftilt, right, separation, right.
And so now one of the thingsthat JFK started was the civil
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rights movement, right, and sothere was JFK, and then there
was Martin Luther King, and sonow these people that were
marginalized are starting to geta little bit more recognition
and a little bit more rights.
But it kind of tilts everybody'stogether off a little bit.
Right, you know what I mean.
Like we're not all doing thesame things.
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There's certain groups ofpeople that are like wait, wait,
wait, wait, I'm being treatedunfairly, I need to be treated
better, right, and so thisstarts to tilt a little bit, and
so the middle class starts togo down, and this is called the
awakening, and so people arestarting to understand, oh,
black people are humans too, andyou know like they're just like
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me.
And yeah, women's lib startsaround this time and all of this
stuff where men are starting torealize, oh, women can be smart
and they can be educated andthey can work, they can do it
right.
And so now we're starting toopen our eyes to individuality a
little bit right.
And so this section which,let's see it started with, let's
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see it was world war ii.
And then it goes back to, oh,to ronald reagan's second
election, his second term.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And that kind of starts this even more imbalance
and more about individuality.
And so this is a section whereyou started to have really good
music, like in the 60s, right?
The 60s is famous for theirmusic and their art and all of
this kind of expression, right?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Are you being for reals?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, oh sure.
Well, the Beatles were therelike Rolling Stones.
Oh, okay, okay, this kind ofexpression, right well, are you
being for reals?
Yeah, yeah, oh sure.
Well, the beatles were therelike rolling stones like music.
I don't mean that you would likeit.
I don't mean that you wouldlike it, but what I mean is
music took a huge jump forward.
Yeah, and art did too well.
The 90s is even more aboutindividuality and it's an even
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bigger jump forward, and so nowmusic is bigger.
So, as a person who livedthrough the 90s, I will tell you
that the honda music was thebest in the 90s.
Country music was the best inthe 90s.
Rock and roll was the best inthe 90s.
Rap was the best in the 90s.
Like all of this stuff was justbetter in the 90s, and then we
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kind of get off the rails afterthat.
Right, yes and so from ronaldreagan to the next turning,
right.
So in the third turnings, whenthe book the fourth turning was
written, and in this book theypredicted that in the fourth
turning it was going to startwith a plane crash, that it was
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going to go into a majorbuilding, god damn it.
Like they predicted 9-11.
Yeah, they predicted the warsthat were going to happen.
They predicted all this stuffbecause they wrote this in the
90s, fuck Right.
And so these guys have likeanother fucking simpsons version
right, but these guys arehistorians, right, so they
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understand how things work andthey're predicting all this
stuff, and so they theypredicted covid.
They predicted all these thingsin the book the fourth turning,
right, and so the newest bookis called the fourth turning is
here, right, it's only one ofthe guys is still alive, and he
wrote.
The newest book is called theForce Turning, is here.
It's only one of the guysthat's still alive and he wrote
the newest book, the ForceTurning, is here, and so he's
talking about all of this stuff.
(10:31):
And so, if we're in the finalblock of our—.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Do we come out in the book?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
There is something about a podcast that has a baby
in the studio Right Right.
That has a baby Right In thestudio.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Right, anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So they're talking about all this stuff and so
we're in the final turning ofour block, right, and so the
interesting thing is that we'rein the fourth turning.
Well, the fourth turning beforeours, right, we talked about
that.
The end of the last block wasworld war two.
Right, that's 80 years ago.
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You go back 80 years from there.
It's a civil war.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You go back 80 years again.
It's the American revolutionarywar.
Yeah, fuck right, so this ishow it stacks up okay, but
that's the math you did this isin the book.
I'm just telling you what's inthe book.
Okay, right.
So this is how it worked thelast time, right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
because I don't trust your math.
So so right, okay, you're gonnafreak out.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This is in the book, right.
So it starts with.
Starts with so from World WarII.
Right Before that was World WarI and before that was the
Spanish-American War.
So these wars built up to WorldWar II, and then World War II
is this worldwide war.
Everybody comes together whenit's over and we have this kind
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of rebirth.
They talk about it like aforest that burns down and has
new growth coming up, right,right.
So if you go back from there,you have the Civil War, and
before the Civil War was theTexas Revolution and the
Mexican-American War, right,mm-hmm war, right, you go back
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before that and you have thefrench and indian wars that led
to the um american revolution.
So there's these wars that buildup right, and in our current uh
, uh seculum we have the iraqwar and then now the afghanistan
war, and currently we have twowars going on One that's in shit
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my brain went blank One that isin Russia fighting Ukraine, and
one that is Gaza fightingIsrael.
And so the fear is, or thepossible prediction is, we're
headed to world war three, right, and that when that is over,
then we're going to have thisrebirth and things are going to
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be balanced again, where peopleare happy and people are calm
and we're going to have aprosperity, but we got to get
through this crisis.
This is the weirdest part whenyou do the math and you go back
to World War II and you get towhen the treaties were signed
and everything's over and westart the new cycle right.
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The timeline for us is that ourseculum ends in 2028.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Which is the end of President Trump's next term Shit
.
So it's pretty crazy, like allof the stuff that's in this book
, and what they're predictingand how this is supposed to work
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Man what?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
the fuck, and so this is like a science that they've
been able to like.
I said this goes back to likethe ancient Greece understood
this and that we have theseblocks and that in 20 years,
every generation has somethingthat they like represent.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So like in our secular this is a code like in
the matrix, like it could be.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It could be right Like it's a repeat of a level
kind of thing, right, like thestoryline just kind of repeats,
just with different charactersand different places and
slightly different things.
Because, check this out, so I'mGen X, right?
So Gen X people and one of thebig differences between us is
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Gen X are nomads.
So you know how I'm alwaystraveling and I'm always moving
around, yeah, like during theday, and you're messaging me and
I'm in Wesseco or I'm in thatis true, right, it's everywhere
but home.
So my generation is like thatand we're all about travel and
moving around and the people inmy generation make things so
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people can move Right.
Elon is a Gen X he.
He makes electric cars, hemakes spaceships right.
But you go back to thesucculent before that.
Henry ford would be theequivalent of a gen x or in the
timeline before okay, okay, getit, I get it get it so, like my
generation.
The quote unquote Gen Xgeneration.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So you think you're for it.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Like we all do the same things, like we're builders
and we're fixers and like youknow how I just metal, yeah, and
we're movers, right.
And so the people before me, myparents' generation, your
grandparents' generation, theboomers, they're like the wise
prophets, right.
And so when you look at, whenyou look at like steve jobs, and
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, um, what's the name of theother guy, the?
I don't know who the guy whodoes microsoft, bill gates right
, sure so they predicted thateverybody was going to have a
computer and they're all aboutthe networking.
Bill Gates predicted COVID fiveyears before it happened as
well.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Right, so they're the ones that predict everything.
And then my generation were themovers, were the fixers.
Right, were the ones who kindof fix the stuff like that Below
them what?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
about millennials.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
So I think that's your generation.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I think Is it 2000s.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah.
So they're the hero generationOf course.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So check this out, obviously, check this out, check
this out.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
This is the part that really kind of freaked me out.
What?
Because you, all yourgeneration, are going to be
during the crisis which is noware going to be during the
crisis, which is now you'regonna.
Okay, I'm not going to work,let me tell you, but they are
going to be the ones that arethe soldiers.
They're going to be the nurses,the fire department the police
officers they're going to be theheroes that are so you know
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what's crazy though?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
that the dragon year was this year, 2024, and then
2025 is a snake year.
So the snake year for thedragon babies it's like a career
path movement, so you thinkthat also has to be related.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It has to be.
I guess it has to be it has tobe.
So guess who else is in yourgeneration that is part of the
heroes, the ones that are goingto fix everything when the
crisis is over.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, guys, we're not going to go to war.
I'll fix this.
I gotcha, I gotcha.
Get this what?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The Parkland kids, the kids that grew up with
school shootings including you,right, I mean, there was a
shooting at your school right?
Those kids are the ones thatare going to grow up and when
they're adults which you're anadult, right, you're an adult,
but you're an early adult, right, like, you got a little bit of
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ways to go, but imagine how muchmore mature and more capable
you're going to be in four moreyears, right, yeah, this
generation in four more years.
The Parkland kids, all thesekids that grew up with school
shootings, are the ones that aregoing to have the ideas that
are going to start our nexttimeline.
Like the problem solvers, theproblem solvers the heroes right
, and so the generation behindyou, which is your kids, are
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going to be the artists fromthere.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
God damn it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And so they're going to come up with all of the new
music and all of the new genresof art, and Brooklyn is a pretty
good artist.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
no cap.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So this is the other thing too, right, because she's
going to be kind of like theboomer of the old generation,
the prophets, right.
She's going to be that in thenext timeline.
Get this, because the peoplethat were born in that era were
all about getting along and allthis stuff.
They're the most polite peopleand they always try to make sure
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everybody around them is good.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Does that sound like Brooklyn, though?
Because she's not a typical kid, right?
She's very polite, she readsthe room.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
She tries to get involved with everyone yeah, in
the room, like she'll talk to.
She's a people person, yeahshe's a people person, not like
I'm a people person, but in adifferent way from brooklyn,
like you can see the differencehow she approaches people and
how I, but that's kind of whatI'm trying to get at because,
like with you, like to to usethe expression she'll cut the
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bitch right, like that.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I mean, yeah, you stand up, you speak your mind,
all this stuff.
If brooklyn gets upset, it'sdifferent.
Yeah, right, yeah, because thatgeneration is that way, right.
And so, like, if you thinkabout, like your grandfather,
which who I know, right, he'slike that, like he's a calm guy,
get along, he's very nice, youknow, like he's not getting your
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face and loud, yeah, like he'snot a like hey, you looking at
me, what are you looking at?
right, he's not like that.
He's not like that at all.
Right, and neither is my mom.
Neither you know these.
Know these people like my dad?
Yeah, you know the other thingthat's really weird, and maybe
you'll see this because you livein a generational household,
right, like.
You know your grandparents, mymom and then me and your kids.
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Right, you know all thegenerations, right, yeah, your
family's close?
Yeah, people get along better,not with their parents, but with
their grandparents.
Yeah, does that fit with you?
Yeah, and does that fit withBrooklyn too?
Yeah, so the reason is isbecause the way the grandparents
are born and raised, they dodifferent for their kids, right,
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yeah, like they grew up to bereally strict, blah, blah, blah,
or not strict at all, whatever.
And then their kids are theopposite, and then their kids
are the opposite, so it getsalong right.
And so you know, we recentlyhad my niece stay with us for a
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while, right?
So you know we recently had myniece stay with us for a while,
right, and one of her questionsto me was how did you grow up?
Did you grow up with, like allthis protection?
Right, because she's a youngkid, she's like 19, right?
So she grew up in this kind ofI don't know, like there's
padding on everything.
You know what I mean.
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Like that's how she grew up,right, and maybe you grew up
similar, I mean right, like surewhere.
And I said look, and I was like,because she kind of was I don't
know how to say this politely,right, but I think she wanted
more freedom.
I'll say it that way.
Right, I think she wanted morefreedom.
And I didn't know how to and herparents didn't really want to
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give her any freedom, and so shewas asking me and my wife, how
much freedom you had.
Did you have to tell themeverywhere that you went?
And did you have to?
You know, like I don't knowpadding on the walls and you
know, like all this safety stuff, right, because she's a good
kid, and so if she was my kid,let's just say but let's just
say she didn't grow up with hergrandparents she didn't know
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yeah, so that's there you go soshe has a lot of questions
because, unlike you, who knoweverybody, she's not like that,
right.
So she's asking me questions andso she's like I feel like my
parents were a little bit strictand they didn't need to be so
strict and they were scared ofeverything and they didn't need
to be scared of everything, etcetera, et cetera, right, and I
said, look like this is not aproblem with your parents.
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Yeah, this is a generationthing.
And I said when I was littleand this may be the case- with
your mom right, Because your momand I are the same age.
Yeah, our parents told us whenyou see the lights on the street
, come on, you better be home.
And then told us when you seethe lights on the street, come
on, you better be home.
And then we were outside thewhole day and we were doing who
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knows what, and I was miles away.
We went I mean, even me, Ididn't even grow up down here.
I was in mexico for no reason,getting drunk in a bar because
they let you drink when you're15 and 16 years old.
Right, right, right.
And so it was crazy.
Like the way that we grew upwas just ridiculous.
We call ourselves I call myselfand a lot of my people from my
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generation we call ourselves theferal generation.
We grew up like wild animals.
We drank from the hose, we atestuff we found in the trash,
like we just were crazy kids,right.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Is it too late to call cps on your mom?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
but then when we have kids and I don't have kids,
right yeah, but when?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
but?
When people have kids that arelike oh, don't eat trash yeah,
they don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Because of the way you grew up and because of the
dangers that you saw and thatyou knew you don't want your
kids to have those.
So then you grow up overprotective.
But then brooklyn's kidsthey're probably going to be
like me right she's going to belike well, there's nothing to be
scared of because I never gotin any trouble ever, so don't?
I'm not scared of anything?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
and then you know what I mean okay, yeah, I see
that, I see that, I see thepattern, yeah yeah, so anyway,
so it was.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I was trying to tell her not to be too judgmental,
because you're always criticalof how your parents raised you,
right?
Because, especially when youbecome a teenager, into your
early 20s, and you're having thementality of an adult and
you're not scared of theboogeyman anymore and you're not
scared of the dark anymore,you're like man a lot of this
shit my parents fed me wasbullshit right but it's the dark
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is still kind of scary butthey're trying their best, right
?
it's what I was trying to tellher is like your parents are
trying their best.
Understand that we grew up withno rules at all, so because we
knew all these dangers andpeople might and including me-
and we have.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You were one of those kids that was that were looking
for white vans outside just forthe fan, yes, for the fun of it
thank god they didn't havepokemon, because I would have
gone inside of the van for agood pokemon.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, but that's how it was right, and so my point is
let's not be too judgmentalabout everybody, because the
world's about to get real closeto ending soon.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So it was kind of bad timing to have kids, right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, I mean, they're going to be good artists and
they're going to be good kids.
Brooklyn's already an amazingkiddie.
We haven't figured this one outyet.
He's already asleep, so he'sstill a little, so I don't
really know his personality.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
He's acting like a cat.
He's a lot like a cat, whichreminds me that might be a
future episode.
Right, that's crazy, though I Itotally think it's related to
the chinese zodiac so, like Isaid, this is based off of
ancient knowledge it'snumerology it all works together
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kind of works together, it allworks together.
Matrix.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Is it codes with numbers?
We need an episode onnumerology.
We need someone that knowstheir numbers.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
If you know your numbers.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And if you know, letters.
Even better, better.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Bryson is not there yet, so we're not able to.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Bryson doesn't know any numbers yet.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Or letters.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Or letters.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But we'll figure that one out.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I want to thank Bryson for his help today.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
The crazy comments.
Yeah, so let us know, we had tomute him a little bit, but he
was good.
He was good, he was good.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So let us know we had to mute him a little bit, but
he was good, he was good, he wasgood.
So this is the thing.
Right, we have a few ideas forepisodes coming up.
We want to do portals and catsand numerology.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah.
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And so if anybody out there has information that they
think we should look into, or,yeah, we really.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
We really want to get more into talking to our fans
and building a community we'vehad, we're on and off.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
We're gonna be better .
We're gonna be better.
This is the thing too.
We do have a few fans thatmessage us.
We're still messaging withpeople about mark kilroy uh
update.
Mark kilroy's father passedaway recently.
There is a charity, if I canremember what it is, but there
is a mark kilroy uh foundation.
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Um you missed the else I'mmissing a lot of stuff.
My fingers don't work that well, but just an update on that.
Is there any other updates thatwe have?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, it's just, that's the main one.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
My cord's fine.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But we do plan on posting.
We're getting back into theswing of things.
I have been sick again anddealing with my health, but I am
feeling much better and I thinkI'm sounding better yeah, you
are because I was slurring for along time not that much.
So yeah, I didn't like, but youdon't sound drunk anymore I
didn't like it, I didn't like it, I didn't like it, but thank
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you for joining us.
We will see you all soon.
Um like and subscribe and tellyour friends.
I hope you're telling yourfriends.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, hopefully you do.
Bye, bye.
Hey, he's not going to talk today.
Well, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Who knows what he's going to do?
We don't have no idea what he'sgoing to do.
Why don't you introduce ourspecial guest?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, guys, so here with us.
It's not making much noiseright now, but he never talks
when you want him to.
Yeah, bryson is in the house.
Yay, hold on yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Got late, missed the button.
It's been a little while.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, it's been a while.
He's been out the womb sevenmonths already, going towards
eight months.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Is that true?
What do you?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
mean Well, because time flies.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah so yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, so Bryson's in the house.
So if you hear a baby crying,or babbling or something.
It's not ghosts.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, but yeah, he's going to be in the studio.
Yeah, so today we are talkingabout the fourth turning and
what is it like the 4th of July?
A little bit, a little bitdifferent, but I will say, as
(01:37):
everybody may or should know iswe recently had an election,
right, and Donald Trump is goingto be our next president here
in the united states, right.
Not everybody's super happyabout it, but it is what it is
and, because of what we knowabout the fourth turning, I can
(01:57):
confidently say that therevolution is right on schedule.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
The revolution.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, so let's talk about what turnings are right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And so in time and in history, and this goes way back
, way back to like ancientGreece and all of this right.
And so there are sections oftime In Latin it's called
speculums right, uh-huh.
And so there are sections oftime In Latin it's called
speculums right or succulumsright Succulents, Succulents
(02:33):
right, same same.
It means a section of historyright, A little slice of history
.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
These blocks of history are broken up into
80-year blocks.
History are broken up into 80year blocks and each of those
blocks has four, like it'sbroken up into four sections.
Okay, now you know the termbaby boomers and gen x and
millennials and all of thisthose right now we have alphas.
(03:03):
Those terms are actually from abook that was written a long
time ago called generationsright, okay and then the same
people who wrote that book laterwrote a book called the fourth
turning.
This book was written in the1990s, during the third turning.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, right.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And so these people have gotten this ancient
knowledge and kind of brought itinto modern days.
Okay, mm-hmm, so if you in oursection right now, we are in the
fourth turning right now andthis is called the crisis, right
(03:51):
?
So the 20 year section thatwe're in, it's called the crisis
.
Got, it Got it, and these arelike the millennials generation
Right, go back to the Gen Xgeneration, go back to the Gen X
(04:15):
generation and their generation, or their section, I should say
their turning.
The third turning is called theunraveling, and then before
that it's called the awakening,and before that it's called the
high, the high.
So our, the high, yes, so ourgroup of history, our block of
history, started at the end ofWorld War Two.
So when they signed the twotreaties, right then, america
(04:39):
had, like its best moments ever,right?
And so of course there wasinequality.
Segregation was still a bigthing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It was like around your time right Before.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But women couldn't vote, like being gay was illegal
and so it's not like good foreverybody.
It's true, it's not good foreverybody, but as far as the
country's concerned, this waswhen we were sending people to
space.
You could be a janitorsomewhere and be able to afford
(05:11):
to buy a house.
There was a lot of good, alongwith people being marginalized.
That's still a section of it,but on the average it was pretty
good.
It was pretty good, right.
Well, the first section is overwhen JFK is assassinated.
(05:39):
That was.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Bryson Right, yeah, that wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That was impressive, right, yeah, that wasn't me.
And so when JFK is assassinated, there's a bit of a like what
they call the awakening right,so the original section, right
the high.
There's a lot of community,like it's all about what's good
(06:07):
for the country, all of thisstuff.
And so people if you knewpeople that were alive during-
then, and maybe yourgrandparents, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe it's how old was I going to find?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
so 72, 74 yeah, so he's in that, he's in that era,
but but he was young, right?
Yeah, but the people back thento fight the war, people
collected citizens, collectedcans and did things to support
the soldiers in World War II.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Like it was all about community, right yeah.
And like I said, there's stillmarginalized people, but
everybody's trying for one goal,right?
Everybody's together.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
To provide.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Right For the betterment of the whole country,
not just me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get it, getit.
And then so then JFK isassassinated, and so then you
start to have a little bit oftilt, right, separation, right.
And so now one of the thingsthat JFK started was the civil
(07:03):
rights movement, right, and sothere was JFK, and then there
was Martin Luther King, and sonow these people that were
marginalized are starting to geta little bit more recognition
and a little bit more rights.
But it kind of tilts everybody'stogether off a little bit.
Right, you know what I mean.
Like we're not all doing thesame things.
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There's certain groups ofpeople that are like wait, wait,
wait, wait, I'm being treatedunfairly, I need to be treated
better, right, and so thisstarts to tilt a little bit, and
so the middle class starts togo down, and this is called the
awakening, and so people arestarting to understand, oh,
black people are humans too, andyou know like they're just like
(07:45):
me.
And yeah, women's lib startsaround this time and all of this
stuff where men are starting torealize, oh, women can be smart
and they can be educated andthey can work, they can do it
right.
And so now we're starting toopen our eyes to individuality a
little bit right.
And so this section which,let's see it started with, let's
(08:10):
see it was world war ii.
And then it goes back to, oh,to ronald reagan's second
election, his second term.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And that kind of starts this even more imbalance
and more about individuality.
And so this is a section whereyou started to have really good
music, like in the 60s, right?
The 60s is famous for theirmusic and their art and all of
this kind of expression, right?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Are you being for reals?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, oh sure.
Well, the Beatles were therelike Rolling Stones.
Oh, okay, okay, this kind ofexpression, right well, are you
being for reals?
Yeah, yeah, oh sure.
Well, the beatles were therelike rolling stones like music.
I don't mean that you would likeit.
I don't mean that you wouldlike it, but what I mean is
music took a huge jump forward.
Yeah, and art did too well.
The 90s is even more aboutindividuality and it's an even
(09:03):
bigger jump forward, and so nowmusic is bigger.
So, as a person who livedthrough the 90s, I will tell you
that the honda music was thebest in the 90s.
Country music was the best inthe 90s.
Rock and roll was the best inthe 90s.
Rap was the best in the 90s.
Like all of this stuff was justbetter in the 90s, and then we
(09:25):
kind of get off the rails afterthat.
Right, yes and so from ronaldreagan to the next turning,
right.
So in the third turnings, whenthe book the fourth turning was
written, and in this book theypredicted that in the fourth
turning it was going to startwith a plane crash, that it was
(09:50):
going to go into a majorbuilding, god damn it.
Like they predicted 9-11.
Yeah, they predicted the warsthat were going to happen.
They predicted all this stuffbecause they wrote this in the
90s, fuck Right.
And so these guys have likeanother fucking simpsons version
right, but these guys arehistorians, right, so they
(10:11):
understand how things work andthey're predicting all this
stuff, and so they theypredicted covid.
They predicted all these thingsin the book the fourth turning,
right, and so the newest bookis called the fourth turning is
here, right, it's only one ofthe guys is still alive, and he
wrote.
The newest book is called theForce Turning, is here.
It's only one of the guysthat's still alive and he wrote
the newest book, the ForceTurning, is here, and so he's
talking about all of this stuff.
(10:31):
And so, if we're in the finalblock of our—.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Do we come out in the book?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
There is something about a podcast that has a baby
in the studio Right Right.
That has a baby Right In thestudio.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Right, anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So they're talking about all this stuff and so
we're in the final turning ofour block, right, and so the
interesting thing is that we'rein the fourth turning.
Well, the fourth turning beforeours, right, we talked about
that.
The end of the last block wasworld war two.
Right, that's 80 years ago.
(11:10):
You go back 80 years from there.
It's a civil war.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You go back 80 years again.
It's the American revolutionarywar.
Yeah, fuck right, so this ishow it stacks up okay, but
that's the math you did this isin the book.
I'm just telling you what's inthe book.
Okay, right.
So this is how it worked thelast time, right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
because I don't trust your math.
So so right, okay, you're gonnafreak out.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This is in the book, right.
So it starts with.
Starts with so from World WarII.
Right Before that was World WarI and before that was the
Spanish-American War.
So these wars built up to WorldWar II, and then World War II
is this worldwide war.
Everybody comes together whenit's over and we have this kind
(12:06):
of rebirth.
They talk about it like aforest that burns down and has
new growth coming up, right,right.
So if you go back from there,you have the Civil War, and
before the Civil War was theTexas Revolution and the
Mexican-American War, right,mm-hmm war, right, you go back
(12:29):
before that and you have thefrench and indian wars that led
to the um american revolution.
So there's these wars that buildup right, and in our current uh
, uh seculum we have the iraqwar and then now the afghanistan
war, and currently we have twowars going on One that's in shit
(12:55):
my brain went blank One that isin Russia fighting Ukraine, and
one that is Gaza fightingIsrael.
And so the fear is, or thepossible prediction is, we're
headed to world war three, right, and that when that is over,
then we're going to have thisrebirth and things are going to
(13:17):
be balanced again, where peopleare happy and people are calm
and we're going to have aprosperity, but we got to get
through this crisis.
This is the weirdest part whenyou do the math and you go back
to World War II and you get towhen the treaties were signed
and everything's over and westart the new cycle right.
(13:42):
The timeline for us is that ourseculum ends in 2028.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Which is the end of President Trump's next term Shit
.
So it's pretty crazy, like allof the stuff that's in this book
, and what they're predictingand how this is supposed to work
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Man what?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
the fuck, and so this is like a science that they've
been able to like.
I said this goes back to likethe ancient Greece understood
this and that we have theseblocks and that in 20 years,
every generation has somethingthat they like represent.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So like in our secular this is a code like in
the matrix, like it could be.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It could be right Like it's a repeat of a level
kind of thing, right, like thestoryline just kind of repeats,
just with different charactersand different places and
slightly different things.
Because, check this out, so I'mGen X, right?
So Gen X people and one of thebig differences between us is
(15:05):
Gen X are nomads.
So you know how I'm alwaystraveling and I'm always moving
around, yeah, like during theday, and you're messaging me and
I'm in Wesseco or I'm in thatis true, right, it's everywhere
but home.
So my generation is like thatand we're all about travel and
moving around and the people inmy generation make things so
(15:29):
people can move Right.
Elon is a Gen X he.
He makes electric cars, hemakes spaceships right.
But you go back to thesucculent before that.
Henry ford would be theequivalent of a gen x or in the
timeline before okay, okay, getit, I get it get it so, like my
generation.
The quote unquote Gen Xgeneration.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So you think you're for it.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Like we all do the same things, like we're builders
and we're fixers and like youknow how I just metal, yeah, and
we're movers, right.
And so the people before me, myparents' generation, your
grandparents' generation, theboomers, they're like the wise
prophets, right.
And so when you look at, whenyou look at like steve jobs, and
(16:17):
, um, what's the name of theother guy, the?
I don't know who the guy whodoes microsoft, bill gates right
, sure so they predicted thateverybody was going to have a
computer and they're all aboutthe networking.
Bill Gates predicted COVID fiveyears before it happened as
well.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Right, so they're the ones that predict everything.
And then my generation were themovers, were the fixers.
Right, were the ones who kindof fix the stuff like that Below
them what?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
about millennials.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
So I think that's your generation.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I think Is it 2000s.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah.
So they're the hero generationOf course.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So check this out, obviously, check this out, check
this out.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
This is the part that really kind of freaked me out.
What?
Because you, all yourgeneration, are going to be
during the crisis which is noware going to be during the
crisis, which is now you'regonna.
Okay, I'm not going to work,let me tell you, but they are
going to be the ones that arethe soldiers.
They're going to be the nurses,the fire department the police
officers they're going to be theheroes that are so you know
(17:22):
what's crazy though?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
that the dragon year was this year, 2024, and then
2025 is a snake year.
So the snake year for thedragon babies it's like a career
path movement, so you thinkthat also has to be related.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It has to be.
I guess it has to be it has tobe.
So guess who else is in yourgeneration that is part of the
heroes, the ones that are goingto fix everything when the
crisis is over.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, guys, we're not going to go to war.
I'll fix this.
I gotcha, I gotcha.
Get this what?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The Parkland kids, the kids that grew up with
school shootings including you,right, I mean, there was a
shooting at your school right?
Those kids are the ones thatare going to grow up and when
they're adults which you're anadult, right, you're an adult,
but you're an early adult, right, like, you got a little bit of
(18:17):
ways to go, but imagine how muchmore mature and more capable
you're going to be in four moreyears, right, yeah, this
generation in four more years.
The Parkland kids, all thesekids that grew up with school
shootings, are the ones that aregoing to have the ideas that
are going to start our nexttimeline.
Like the problem solvers, theproblem solvers the heroes right
, and so the generation behindyou, which is your kids, are
(18:41):
going to be the artists fromthere.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
God damn it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And so they're going to come up with all of the new
music and all of the new genresof art, and Brooklyn is a pretty
good artist.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
no cap.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So this is the other thing too, right, because she's
going to be kind of like theboomer of the old generation,
the prophets, right.
She's going to be that in thenext timeline.
Get this, because the peoplethat were born in that era were
all about getting along and allthis stuff.
They're the most polite peopleand they always try to make sure
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everybody around them is good.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Does that sound like Brooklyn, though?
Because she's not a typical kid, right?
She's very polite, she readsthe room.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
She tries to get involved with everyone yeah, in
the room, like she'll talk to.
She's a people person, yeahshe's a people person, not like
I'm a people person, but in adifferent way from brooklyn,
like you can see the differencehow she approaches people and
how I, but that's kind of whatI'm trying to get at because,
like with you, like to to usethe expression she'll cut the
(19:52):
bitch right, like that.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I mean, yeah, you stand up, you speak your mind,
all this stuff.
If brooklyn gets upset, it'sdifferent.
Yeah, right, yeah, because thatgeneration is that way, right.
And so, like, if you thinkabout, like your grandfather,
which who I know, right, he'slike that, like he's a calm guy,
get along, he's very nice, youknow, like he's not getting your
(20:17):
face and loud, yeah, like he'snot a like hey, you looking at
me, what are you looking at?
right, he's not like that.
He's not like that at all.
Right, and neither is my mom.
Neither you know these.
Know these people like my dad?
Yeah, you know the other thingthat's really weird, and maybe
you'll see this because you livein a generational household,
right, like.
You know your grandparents, mymom and then me and your kids.
(20:39):
Right, you know all thegenerations, right, yeah, your
family's close?
Yeah, people get along better,not with their parents, but with
their grandparents.
Yeah, does that fit with you?
Yeah, and does that fit withBrooklyn too?
Yeah, so the reason is isbecause the way the grandparents
are born and raised, they dodifferent for their kids, right,
(21:05):
yeah, like they grew up to bereally strict, blah, blah, blah,
or not strict at all, whatever.
And then their kids are theopposite, and then their kids
are the opposite, so it getsalong right.
And so you know, we recentlyhad my niece stay with us for a
(21:27):
while, right?
So you know we recently had myniece stay with us for a while,
right, and one of her questionsto me was how did you grow up?
Did you grow up with, like allthis protection?
Right, because she's a youngkid, she's like 19, right?
So she grew up in this kind ofI don't know, like there's
padding on everything.
You know what I mean.
(21:47):
Like that's how she grew up,right, and maybe you grew up
similar, I mean right, like surewhere.
And I said look, and I was like,because she kind of was I don't
know how to say this politely,right, but I think she wanted
more freedom.
I'll say it that way.
Right, I think she wanted morefreedom.
And I didn't know how to and herparents didn't really want to
(22:08):
give her any freedom, and so shewas asking me and my wife, how
much freedom you had.
Did you have to tell themeverywhere that you went?
And did you have to?
You know, like I don't knowpadding on the walls and you
know, like all this safety stuff, right, because she's a good
kid, and so if she was my kid,let's just say but let's just
say she didn't grow up with hergrandparents she didn't know
(22:30):
yeah, so that's there you go soshe has a lot of questions
because, unlike you, who knoweverybody, she's not like that,
right.
So she's asking me questions andso she's like I feel like my
parents were a little bit strictand they didn't need to be so
strict and they were scared ofeverything and they didn't need
to be scared of everything, etcetera, et cetera, right, and I
said, look like this is not aproblem with your parents.
(22:52):
Yeah, this is a generationthing.
And I said when I was littleand this may be the case- with
your mom right, Because your momand I are the same age.
Yeah, our parents told us whenyou see the lights on the street
, come on, you better be home.
And then told us when you seethe lights on the street, come
on, you better be home.
And then we were outside thewhole day and we were doing who
(23:14):
knows what, and I was miles away.
We went I mean, even me, Ididn't even grow up down here.
I was in mexico for no reason,getting drunk in a bar because
they let you drink when you're15 and 16 years old.
Right, right, right.
And so it was crazy.
Like the way that we grew upwas just ridiculous.
We call ourselves I call myselfand a lot of my people from my
(23:35):
generation we call ourselves theferal generation.
We grew up like wild animals.
We drank from the hose, we atestuff we found in the trash,
like we just were crazy kids,right.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Is it too late to call cps on your mom?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
but then when we have kids and I don't have kids,
right yeah, but when?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
but?
When people have kids that arelike oh, don't eat trash yeah,
they don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Because of the way you grew up and because of the
dangers that you saw and thatyou knew you don't want your
kids to have those.
So then you grow up overprotective.
But then brooklyn's kidsthey're probably going to be
like me right she's going to belike well, there's nothing to be
scared of because I never gotin any trouble ever, so don't?
I'm not scared of anything?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
and then you know what I mean okay, yeah, I see
that, I see that, I see thepattern, yeah yeah, so anyway,
so it was.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I was trying to tell her not to be too judgmental,
because you're always criticalof how your parents raised you,
right?
Because, especially when youbecome a teenager, into your
early 20s, and you're having thementality of an adult and
you're not scared of theboogeyman anymore and you're not
scared of the dark anymore,you're like man a lot of this
shit my parents fed me wasbullshit right but it's the dark
(24:50):
is still kind of scary butthey're trying their best, right
?
it's what I was trying to tellher is like your parents are
trying their best.
Understand that we grew up withno rules at all, so because we
knew all these dangers andpeople might and including me-
and we have.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You were one of those kids that was that were looking
for white vans outside just forthe fan, yes, for the fun of it
thank god they didn't havepokemon, because I would have
gone inside of the van for agood pokemon.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, but that's how it was right, and so my point is
let's not be too judgmentalabout everybody, because the
world's about to get real closeto ending soon.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So it was kind of bad timing to have kids, right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, I mean, they're going to be good artists and
they're going to be good kids.
Brooklyn's already an amazingkiddie.
We haven't figured this one outyet.
He's already asleep, so he'sstill a little, so I don't
really know his personality.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
He's acting like a cat.
He's a lot like a cat, whichreminds me that might be a
future episode.
Right, that's crazy, though I Itotally think it's related to
the chinese zodiac so, like Isaid, this is based off of
ancient knowledge it'snumerology it all works together
(26:07):
kind of works together, it allworks together.
Matrix.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Is it codes with numbers?
We need an episode onnumerology.
We need someone that knowstheir numbers.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
If you know your numbers.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And if you know, letters.
Even better, better.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Bryson is not there yet, so we're not able to.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Bryson doesn't know any numbers yet.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Or letters.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Or letters.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But we'll figure that one out.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I want to thank Bryson for his help today.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
The crazy comments.
Yeah, so let us know, we had tomute him a little bit, but he
was good.
He was good, he was good.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So let us know we had to mute him a little bit, but
he was good, he was good, he wasgood.
So this is the thing.
Right, we have a few ideas forepisodes coming up.
We want to do portals and catsand numerology.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And so if anybody out there has information that they
think we should look into, or,yeah, we really.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
We really want to get more into talking to our fans
and building a community we'vehad, we're on and off.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
We're gonna be better .
We're gonna be better.
This is the thing too.
We do have a few fans thatmessage us.
We're still messaging withpeople about mark kilroy uh
update.
Mark kilroy's father passedaway recently.
There is a charity, if I canremember what it is, but there
is a mark kilroy uh foundation.
(27:37):
Um you missed the else I'mmissing a lot of stuff.
My fingers don't work that well, but just an update on that.
Is there any other updates thatwe have?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, it's just, that's the main one.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
My cord's fine.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But we do plan on posting.
We're getting back into theswing of things.
I have been sick again anddealing with my health, but I am
feeling much better and I thinkI'm sounding better yeah, you
are because I was slurring for along time not that much.
So yeah, I didn't like, but youdon't sound drunk anymore I
didn't like it, I didn't like it, I didn't like it, but thank
(28:22):
you for joining us.
We will see you all soon.
Um like and subscribe and tellyour friends.
I hope you're telling yourfriends.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, hopefully you do.
Bye, bye.
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