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October 16, 2024 51 mins

Ever wondered what unfolds when eerie legends meet personal experiences? Picture this: a Halloween celebration with a taco bar and Rice Krispie brains, topped with a spooky movie night featuring the 2024 rendition of Salem's Lot. Our furry family member wagged his tail to Disney Plus Halloween specials while Jinx and I reveled in the thrill of setting up spine-chilling decorations. As the air grows crisp and the leaves crunch underfoot, we share stories that spark the eerie essence of October, including my upcoming segment where I'll reveal an under-the-radar documentary and spin a chilling tale.

Journey with us to the mysterious Pyramid Lake, where history and haunting join forces. This body of water, once an inland sea, is home to bizarre rock formations and the spectral stories of water babies—spirits steeped in indigenous folklore and whispered about in tales of unsettling events and vanishings. Discover the intertwining of Paiute tribe lore with these legends, and ponder the unsettling map correlations that link cave systems to missing person cases. It's a dance between history and mystery that beckons the curious and the brave.

And what of the uncanny adventures inspired by the Randonautica app? Users find themselves in surreal scenarios, from unearthing a suitcase with human remains to encountering clowns lurking in the shadows. These tales tease the line between reality and the paranormal, inviting questions about synchronicity and the very essence of coincidence. As we explore these riveting stories, we invite you to join our Boo Crew HQ community, sharing your own spooky experiences and theories. Follow us on our social media haunts, send in your frightful tales, and let's keep those lanterns glowing as we wander through the shadows together.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Omnis immundae spiritus, omnis satanica
potestas, omnis incursiainfernalis adversarii, omnis
legio, omnis congregatio etsecta diabolica.
In nomine et virtute Domininostri, jesus Christ, to rejoice
and rejoice.
Hello there, boo Crew.
Hello, what the fuck was that?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, I thought we were starting.
Yeah, we are starting.
Oh okay, welcome to anotherepisode of Paranormal Howl Hour.
I'm your host, paranormal Howl,and with me is my amazing
co-host and little troublemaker,jinx.
How you doing tonight, jinx?
I'm good, I'm good, all right,all right, all right, all right

(01:23):
all right, all right, I'm good,that's great.
Yeah, how are you feeling?
What's shaking?
What's new?
We are officially in ourOctober.
How are you feeling?
My favorite season?
I'm excited.
I know it's a good one.
The leaves are already falling.
It's finally starting to getthat chill in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
It actually feels like October, which is nice.
Yeah, this is don't get mewrong.
I love summers because I love.
I love warm weather, and it's aplus that I live on the coast
now and I get to enjoy theweather by the ocean.
This is when it really startsfor me.
Everything starts gettingexciting.
It's like the ramp up.
September is like the ramp up,like the busy season for us of
all the good things that weenjoy doing.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, halloween starts on the 1st of October for
us.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
It always has, for me and my family, and you know
you're part of that now and youdid an amazing job, like getting
us ready for Halloween beforethe 1st of October this year.
You did an amazing job.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, thanks, you know, someone had to do it, so
you know.
I'm a little under the weatherso I couldn't partake in the
outside, but You've been verybusy with spooky sweets and
treats so.
I'm not going to give you flackfor that, but the outside's
kind of my domain anyway.
I like to mess about outside.
You see all that.
See half the tree I cut down tomake sure you can see the bat

(02:45):
in the tree.
You did not.
I pulled an Edward Scissorhandson that tree.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
That should be one that we watch, for sure.
Edward Scissorhands yeah, Imean, it's not like Halloween-y,
but you know.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Halloween-y, christmas-y.
You know, it's that age olddebate of is Nightmare Before
Christmas, halloween orChristmas movie?
Same thing with EdwardScissorhands Is it a Halloween
or a Christmas movie?
Yeah, but yeah, I'm down forwatching it If it's available on
any of the streaming networksthat we have.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Because I ain't paying for shit Makes me want to
go on a Johnny Depp marathon,though.
Every time I see one of hismovies, I want to go on a
marathon.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, he has some, but not like pirate marathon.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I mean, I'm talking about, like all this other stuff
.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, he's had some scary movies that he's done.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You got any new stuff up your sleeve, up my sleeve.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah no, I don't even know what I have up my sleeve.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't know, I mean I'm not.
I am usually the one that hasthe hygiene, but I don't get
nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, we had a fun family Halloween party this past
weekend.
Yeah, it was a lot of funhaving the family over just kind
of chilling out.
We watched the new Salem's Lot2024 on Max, yeah, yeah, and no
one except for me has seen the19, like the original one from

(04:09):
1978 or 1979.
Or they don't remember itbecause it was such a long time
ago.
And I have to say we gave it afour out of five howls.
It was really good.
I enjoyed it.
I liked it too.
Yeah, nobody knew what it wasabout, but you, you've read the
book, you've listened to thebook, you've watched the movie I

(04:31):
think everybody enjoyed it,though I enjoyed it yeah, it was
actually a really goodrendition, and I'm not really
one for um.
I'm not really one to sit thereand say oh, you know, the
reboot was so much better thanthe first, because I'm a true
believer of like if it it ain'tbroke, don't fix it, right.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Okay, but I'm going to catch you on that one in just
a second.
But yeah, I do want to go backand I want to see the original
one.
We can do that tonight.
Okay, we've been on an escapadewith our four-legged son in
Disney Plus Halloween today.
He's been lounging on the couch, yeah, yeah, but no, I had a

(05:10):
lot of fun.
I can't believe that he watchesTV the way that he does.
The tacos were delicious.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh yeah, we had a taco bar.
We did a taco bar for thespooky movie night with the fam.
Yeah, spooky.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Boo made brains rice crispy treats.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, those were so good, you did a really good job
on those.
So much better than than.
So much better than the ricecrispy treats you buy in the
store.
I don't know why that was sohard for me to get out.
Yeah, you did an awesome jobwith those brains, those Rice
Krispie brains.
All right, so you're goingfirst this week, I guess so.

(05:49):
What do you mean?
You guess, so it's my turn.
It is your turn.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I have another short story, but like I have, okay, so
I did a short story but then Iactually came across a
documentary of somebody going tothis place and their events.
That happened.
Oh, okay, I try to do my bestto like find things that people
don't.
You know that Mr Baggins hasn'tcovered yet the typical stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The typical stuff that all of the paranormal
community go after.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, because you know after a while it gets quiet
.
Yeah, because you know after awhile it gets.
I do like the variety of takeon different things with
different ghost hunters andparanormal investigators and
mediums, so on and so forth.
Like I do like to compare theTV shows to one another.
I'm not going to lie, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Most definitely.
Both the Amy's are great.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, Amy Bruni, Amy Allen Shout out.
You'll never listen to this,but oh my gosh, what's my girl's
name?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Her last name Cindy, cindy Casa.
Yeah, yeah, guys, you have notseen her.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
She's amazing.
Yeah, she has a prominent rolein that TV show that we would
like to watch, the Holzer FilesMm-hmm.
Oh, that's a good show, it'snot.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
They don't shoot it anymore, but anymore, but no,
but it, yeah, and then she's on.
She was on the end of thehaunting files.
Haunting files, yeah, with thedetective, the new york
detective.
The dead files, the dead files,yeah, thank you, I'm with amy
allen.
Yeah, so at the very end, amyallen has to step out of it and
and um, cindy comes in.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh, yeah, I haven't gotten there yet.
There's a new season of that,isn't there?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
We're gonna have to look into that yeah, they're all
good and I think that I wouldlike revisit all of the old
stuff if I could visit there andpartake in what may or may not
happen.
I mean, we've been to theconjuring house, obviously, but
not overnight.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Be careful what you say it's a very litigious house,
tidge's house now don't get mestarted I would shit if the
owner listened to this and weget a fucking cease and desist
letter.
Oh, that would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Less than 100 listeners and a lawsuit, hey any
publicity is good publicity, Iknow, but she just needs to go
away.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, I mean we should definitely talk about the
conjuring house at some point.
Hey, any publicity is goodpublicity, I know, but she just
needs to go away.
Yeah, I mean we shoulddefinitely talk about the
Conjuring House at some point,because you and I yeah, like you
said we've been there and wehave our own take on it and,
like our all of six listeners,give us your input of how you
felt before and present.
Yeah, our six wonderfullisteners.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I really appreciate you yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I appreciate you guys .
Boo Crew, you're tiny butmighty, and the one that's way
over in the UK.
That's right.
Someone in Vietnam listened toour stuff.
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Whoever, you are awesome.
I wish we could.
I wish we had more.
I guess it's kind of my fault.
I should probably post morethan once a week, maybe we will
once we get had more.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I guess it's kind of my fault.
I should probably post morethan once a week.
Maybe we will once we getjamming.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I wish we had more Not exposure, because, whatever
right, if only six people listento it, I'm fine with that
Gather round.
This is the campfire storiestime.
I wish we had more interaction,seven more, and we'd have a
coven.
All right, the lack of thewitchy lady.
We'd have a coven.
All right.
The lack of those witchy lady,all right.
So your story.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, hit me with it what I got for you, okay.
So last week we were in Alaskaand Canada.
I went to the great state ofNevada.
This week we're back in thedesert again.
Okay, but you know the desert,I mean a lot of the desert was
covered.
It was a sea at one point.
That's how we got the greencanyon.

(09:29):
So when you think of nevada,what do you like?
And if you think of water, mostpeople just think of lake mean,
lake pajo.
Those are pretty primarily thetwo big ones.
There's a third one, okay, thatI did not know about until I
dove down into this story.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Okay, it's called Pyramid Lake.
Have you ever heard of it?
No, I've heard of the.
I've heard of the.
No, Isn't there a pyramidcasino?
Maybe, I don't know.
What is that pyramid, thatcasino?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
The pyramid.
Yeah, what is that, mgm?
Ah, shit yeah you're right,okay, okay, so it it.
You know that's all I knowabout.
I know there's, that's it.
It's not relative, but butthere is a part.
I I did post pictures for youand like there's a part of this
like that literally is tiered.
Now that you say that it's liketiered, like mgm.
So get out.

(10:20):
No, I'm not kidding.
Now that you just said that,I'm like wait, there's part, and
I don't know, silver and goldand everything For the gold rush
.
Yeah, it was.

(10:54):
You know they were making a lotof the fish extinct.
Well, there is a fish, and I donot know how to pronounce it,
if somebody does, bless you, butit's C-U-I-C-I.
It is a fish that has stood thetest of like two million years.
There is another trout thatthat everybody just flops for,
and it's the la hoyton trout.

(11:17):
That's what isn't primarilymade aside from the fishing.
Pyramid lake is one that isknown for the surrounding
because of how it was made, thefishing.
There are also things that arelurking in the water that some
say that nightmares are made of.
So we'll see.
We'll see how you guys fare inthe reading of the nightmare.
Pyramid Lake is what remains ofLake Lahontan.

(11:41):
Lake Lahontan was an inland seathat covered the majority of
Nevada just over 2 million yearsago, in the same way that the
Central Valley of California wasan inland sea.
It was when the lake was aninland sea.
So the uniqueness of this lakeis that when it was an inland

(12:03):
sea, tufa was growing underneaththe water and I did not know
what that was, but it wasbecause of the geothermal
activity that was happeningunderneath, which means it's in
carbonate.
Minerals precipitate out ofwater of unheated rivers and
lake, if that makes sense to anyof you guys, but it's a variety

(12:23):
of limestone.
So you know all these rockclimbers the indoors?
Yes, the makeshift rocks aresupposed to be tufa rocks, can
you?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
spell that.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
T-U-F-A.
Tufa, tufa, tufa, tufa, tufa,tufa, tufa, tufa, tufa, tufa,
tufa, tufa.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Tufa Mm-hmm, not too close, tufa yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
So we can be seen all around the lake.
Now the largest of the Tufas iswhat actually John C Fremont
saw and gave it its name becauseit's actually shaped like a
pyramid.
I shared a picture of that too.
I'm not even fond of this guyafter reading that about him.
But where this is located thePaiute tribe lived for

(13:15):
generations and they actuallyshared the area with two other
tribes.
Finally there's petroglyphs, Iguess all over the place of the
tribe.
It wasn't until Dauncey Fremontlocated the lake in 1843 that
the area was known to thoseoutside of the tribe.
And here comes the prospectorscoming in for the gold and the

(13:36):
silver copper.
So the tribes had foundthemselves on attack all the
time from these prospectorstrying to take over their land.
But in May 1860, despite agroup of prospectors coming from
Virginia City, the men werefought off by the tribes.
They were able to capture someof it To this day not all of it,

(13:58):
because of course you know what, what not to be verbally
political but you know thenatives got their land taken
away from them, which was shittyand upsetting, but they still
do capture some of it.
To kind of sum it all up, thislake is terminal and for people
who don't know what that meansbecause I did not it means it

(14:19):
has an inlet but not a trueoutlet.
So the inlet comes from theTruckee River that flows through
it and in all totaling it's 750miles.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wow, that's really long.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, the well, I think, like Mead is longer, I
think it's 1200 or somethinglike that.
Anyways, it is that that portionof it is still owned by the
Paiute tribe Because it is aninlet, a terminal lake, and it
has an inlet and not a trueoutlet.
There are a number ofunderwater shelves and caves and

(14:53):
structures that cannot.
So these underwater shelves andcaves were captured by the
scuba diver and when conditionscan be very hard on this lake,
the wind speeds can changedramatically, which I thought
they kind of did on.
Like all the time anyway, yes,not, but because of the, the

(15:14):
structural part of the lake andthe caves, it.
That's what dramatically shiftsit and people, just like
everything, goes to shit ifyou're on the lake and the wind
picks up, like they will tellyou when you go on the lake, if
the wind picks up, get off.
So when this has happened, itseems the only logical
resolution as to why people gomissing off of this lake because

(15:38):
that is one of the big thingsabout this lake is more people
go missing off of this lake thanany other.
Hmm, oh, I have thoughts, butokay go ahead there with with
that, there is a theory with thepiutes that they tell you to
beware of water babies.
No, have you ever heard ofwater babies?

(16:01):
Uh, I've heard of water babies.
I've heard of matter babies,not matter babies.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So water babies are different from regents.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Have you ever heard of a matter baby?
But I didn't want to hear aboutthe water babies either, but
I'm telling a story about it.
You'll have to tell me aboutthe matter babies.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Okay, just remind me after this Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
So yes, there is.
The natives will not so muchtalk about it.
They won't really tell youanything about it because it's
unspoken, but it is.
It is very much a true talethat they say there that there
are water babies that areamongst the Pyram.
They're also known as hey.

(16:41):
Here we go with that thepronunciation, which is
mysterious spirits that live inbodies of water.
They are said to look likebeautiful human babies, some
with fish tails, and areguardians of the waters they
live in.
One of the tales is, moreoverthan not, this I think this one

(17:03):
is the one that is mostly spokenof is many, many years ago, the
piutes would drown malformedand pre-future babies in the
lake in order to weed out thewheat as to keep the tribe
strong, because it was one ofthe strongest tribes in that
region.
Wow, you're looking at me likewoof.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, that's awful, that's absolutely awful.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
So, allegedly, you can still, to this day, hear the
crying and the wailingthroughout the lake.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
No.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Especially early morning and evening hours and
during the springtime primefishing, which leads to all of
the people going onto the lakefor the La Hontan trout that
everybody is wanting so it's theinfamous fish of the lake.
The water babies tend to be veryvengeful, reportedly

(17:53):
responsible for calamitiesranging from equipment
malfunctions to boatingaccidents to disappearances.
Some accounts say that theytarget the fishermen and they
lurk just below the surface,waiting for an opportunity to
seize and drown those that gettoo close to the water.
Other accounts are lessdramatic, saying that if you

(18:14):
hear or see a water baby, youwill be cursed with bad luck.
So keep that in mind.
Yeah, one of the older legendsthan that one.
You will be cursed with badluck.
So keep that in mind.
Uh, yeah, one of the olderlegends than that.
One.
Kind of this.
One more intrigues me.
I mean, I'm very sad, like, butlike when something?
It's just like when we werewatching that show today when

(18:36):
you said the more awfulsomething is, the more real it
probably is, it's more the truth.
We were watching a horrible.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, I said, the more unbelievably awful it sounds,
the more true it probably isright, yeah, which I can believe
.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I mean you.
You think of a tribal nationtrying to.
I mean, it had a lot to contendwith, so I could see them doing
that.
I mean, what's any differentthan them weeding out the wheat
when we would just send ours toasylum, right?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I mean hamsters eat their babies.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh my God, I hate when you say that.
Okay, so the one legend that Iam more on siding on that that I
think could possibly happen andit is the lesser of the two
that is told is of a nativeamerican woman who had two
children.
She took her children down tothe river to bathe them, but

(19:38):
they were dragged under by thecurrent.
When she had discovered thather children had drowned, she
took them to a burial site tobury them.
She cried so hard over herchildren's grave that it filled
with water and becamepyramid-like.
The woman then laid by the laketo watch her children, where
she turned to stone.
To this day, her babies can beheard in the lake with their

(20:01):
terrified cries for their motherto save them, angered.
Her babies can be heard in thelake with their terrified cries
for their mother to save them,angered that they are forever
lost in the waters.
They prey on deceiving you bywhat you hear and what you see
and, once close enough, theydrag the unsuspecting victims
down to drown to keep them to bea part of the lake forever and
never to be found.

(20:22):
Now there's the part where I'mlike hmm, this is more of like a
native legend.
The lake, mysteriously, is saltwater with no outlet.
What so?
They say that her tears, beforeshe turned her tears, made the
lake your tears salt water.
That's beautiful.
And that's why there's nooutlet, because you know, her

(20:45):
tears are trapped, just like herchildren.
Yeah, I know, isn't that crazy?
So I'm like, oh, my god, here Iam.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Going to that story again.
Her kids don't have to bekilling people, though.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
They're very angry.
Well, however oddly andmysterious that it may be, if
you believe in the water babies,if you don't, is that people
who have drowned in Pyramid Lakehave been located in Lake Tahoe
.
So there's a.
What are they called?
So remember when.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I said there's a whirlpool.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
I remember when I said that there were caves.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
And there was.
There's an inlet.
The Pyramid Lake is connectedvia the Truckee River, so Lake
Tahoe overflows into the LakePyramid, into the Pyramid Lake,
meaning that water somehowflowed backward to transport,
transport the bodies.
So somehow there was anexchange through the caves.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And Lake Tahoe is a freshwater lake.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, which doesn't explain, like, how there
wouldn't be salt lake getting inLake Tahoe.
But yeah, they're just, they'revery little mysterious spirits.
They also can inhabit springsand sometimes ponds.
Water babies will.
Typically they take on the formof a human infant.
Obviously, if the folklore istrue that you know, the Paiute

(22:09):
took them out, formed and leakedand drowned them.
But it is said that some of thetribes present them as having
fishtails and appear reptilian.
They resemble the cries of thebaby.
So they're not really.
They're kind of on the crypticside.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, that's fair.
So, yeah, the cry though so younever the cry of the baby when
you hear it is an omen of death,and for you, just merely
responding to the baby's cryingand you ever think that you see
it in the water and try to pickit up causes absolute

(22:52):
catastrophe.
I mean, you end game here withthe baby forever.
I dug a little deeper because Ijust had to right and I'm like
okay, people go to this lake tofish because you know there's
this infamous fish that is onlyin this lake, that has, like

(23:13):
it's what do you call it?
Ice age?
Yeah, it survived.
Yeah it survived the whole gapI don't know if it's from the
underwater shows, not sure.
So there's this gentleman thatdecided he was going to take a
little trip on the lake.
Hired a guide and to his dismayhe asked oh, it's called the

(23:34):
Lahontan cutthroat trout, sorry.
So true story.
Here we go.
There was a gentleman named Dan.
He was talking to two of hiscolleagues, jennifer and Shelly,
about, you know, hiring a guidenamed Steve going out to try to
catch one of these infamoustrout pyramid lake.

(24:04):
Like you can't go fishing there, the water babies are on that
lake.
So he started going down intoit and he was like um,
paranormal fish, I'm out there,I'm on it, I'm doing it.
So got his guide and the onlything that he had to say was
there was two questions that heasked him is I want to catch a

(24:24):
Lahontan cutthroat on my Zebco,which I guess is a fishing rod,
I don't know, and how worried doI need to be about the water
babies?
And so his guide just kind oflooked at him like he was a
moron and he said you don't haveto worry about the problems of
the water babies as long as youdo good and respect the

(24:45):
resources the lake has to offer.
So here we go with the respectevent.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
This fucker pissed in the lake, didn't he?
Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
no, he really didn't.
Um, there was one thing thatthe guide told him, so I I guess
there's differences in the waythat you fish bass versus trout,
and when he was fishing, Iguess you don't, because it's
part of a reservation, you haveto go through like an entrance,

(25:14):
and he saw a missing person signand he was talking to one of
the natives about it, and whenhe spoke of the water babies, I
don't know anything about that.
Good luck fishing.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Lies.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Just respect the resources, like she even said it
like just respect the resources, right.
So they get out there, they geton the boat, they're fishing.
The guide says I have one tipto tell you Only set it once.
So I guess in bass fishing youcan.
I have one tip to tell you Onlyset it once.
So I guess in bass fishing youcan.
I don't know.
I guess there's a difference inonly one hook set versus two.

(25:51):
And because out of habit he setthe hook again and it
immediately like he had a fish.
He had one and he said, oh,it's a good one.
It came up and some of thesefish like, if you, you know what
a trout looks like, right, yeah, like it's very silvery I
mean some of them are rainbowand they have like a pinkish

(26:11):
beard to them.
But he said, oh yeah, it waslike it was a good 10 pounder.
So, out of habit, he set thehook again and it pissed the
guide off the hook again and itpissed the guide off and he was
like, okay, new rule, don't setthe hook at all, just reel in
fast.
Um, so they were going throughthe motions and you know they
caught a couple of them and outof the corner of the gentleman's

(26:35):
eye, he thought that he saw atumbleweed on the lake and he's
like this is really, you know,he was like, you know, I don't
like he just he wasn't reallygrasping that there was
tumbleweed out on the lake,right.
So, and he looks around andhe's like there's really not any

(26:59):
like on the shore either.
It's like when you think oflike being like tumbleweeds,
they're like.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Don't ask me what I think about when you say
tumbleweeds.
I know what you think.
Oh man, tumbleweeds andvalvoline.
Mom, tumbleweeds and valvoline.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
All right.
So there was one last place.
He just he couldn't get it outof his head that he caught this
tumbleweed.
There was one place that helooked and there was one last
fish that he caught.
But he said you know, this fishlooks pretty beat up from being
worked because it was part ofthe hatchery.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
To keep this fish in stock and a lot of times that's
just.
You know that that's what youget from being a fish you know
you have.
Like, you get a fish you knowon your hook but it may not be
one that you can like actuallykeep.
You know you have to throw itback right there's always that
instance that it's not going tomake it, and so the guide was

(28:04):
saying you know, don't read toomuch into it.
Um, you know at least it will.
If it does die it'll it'll befood for the birds or another
fish or whatever.
I mean he felt a bit guiltyabout it.
They let it go.
He stopped flying off, swimmingoff.
Why did I say flying off?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
You're thinking about the tumbleweeds.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I know I'm thinking of the tumbleweeds Because, like
he couldn't understand why hewas seeing it.
Back to reality.
Three days later he playsbasketball.
And he was playing basketballwith a more skilled player and
got elbowed in the mouth like ahard hook.
Elbow spot almost broke his jaw, which developed into a sinus

(28:46):
section then an abscess.
So when he finally got aroundto seeing the dentist after a
month he took a look in hismouth and said this tooth is
unrecoverable.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
You know it was?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
it was vertically split so like literally he.
He took a right hook from anelbow and he had a crown From
the crown to the root.
It just split right in themiddle.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
That sounds so painful.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It does sound very painful.
So here he goes in his mind hewas just fishing.
Yeah, he's like there's threepossible explanations for why I
got a cracked to just days afterfishing the Pyramid Lake I saw
in the water was.
What he saw in the water wasn'ta tumbleweed, remember, they'll
make you see things.
Yeah, my handling of that lastfish wasn't respectful enough

(29:34):
for the lake's resources.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
No.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Or the incidences are unrelated.
And given the amount ofbasketball that I play and my
general lack of defense skills,he was wondering that he had any
teeth at all, so he wasinclined to believe the latter
explanation.
You never know.
And after all, the two men thathe saw in the missing poster
are still missing and you wonderwhy I'm scared of water.

(29:58):
You wonder why I'm scared ofwater.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, I'm wondering why you're scared of water, but
you keep doing water topicsBecause I'm terrified of water,
so you think this will like stopyou from being scared of it.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I don't think it'll stop me from being terrified.
I'm just bringing more examplesto the table of why I'm
terrified of water and why myfeet belong on land.
Okay.
Well, if I had a fan, I wouldbelong in the water.
I have feet, true?
Yeah, water babies yeah youshould.
Oh, and then do you havepictures of the water baby I?

(30:32):
I I posted pictures of thewater babies for you I I even
did like I did the one.
I'll send them to you.
I even did the ai one, butthere's actually one where one
of the natives are watching,like are looking at the babies
that they like dropped down intothe water in their stone.
I also gave you pictures of thelake to see, like, what the

(30:55):
stone actually looks like.
I gave it its name, but get thehell out of here.
Gave it its name but get thehell out of here.
I was going through all of the.
You know, when you put in waterbabies, there was a book that
was published called the waterbabies.
Nothing, I mean nothing related, like, but not related, but

(31:17):
kind of like.
The stories were kind of verysimilar of how it like seemed to
be a unique, like the respectkind of level of it, uh-huh.
So yeah, I put that I posted apicture of the book too because
it was like really interesting,because it's a very old book.

(31:37):
The water babies are um, veryspotty and don't go looking for
like a baby crying on the water.
Yeah, Like, how fucked up isthat in the beginning, or any
you know.
Yeah, I mean motherly instinct.
I would be like what the fuck?
There's a kid.
My motherly instincts would.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think any decent human being's instinct would be
like help the baby.
I you know, while you weretelling the story, you know I
was thinking about how, if itwas the drowning of the not fit
children by the piutes, themalformed, yeah that those
babies spent eternity provingtheir parents wrong, that they

(32:19):
could, that they could hack it,seeking parental approval even
yeah crossed over.
Yeah, I don't know.
Crazy, I was looking up whileyou were talking.
I was looking up the maps of uh, missing people versus cave
system.
Yeah, there's a tiny littlearea right there because it's
because that lake is likedirectly across from sacramento

(32:43):
and there's a there's a littlepocket, but also there's a huge
national forest.
So, yeah, is it the chuckyriver?
No, it's a little pocket, butalso there's a huge national
forest.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
So yeah, Is it the Truckee River.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
No, it's a national forest in California.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Oh, but that pocket is the forest Is that what
you're saying?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
No, that pocket is the lake, but right next to the
lake it's like at the border ofCalifornia almost.
Yeah, you cross over to thatCalifornia border.
There's a national forest, yeah, and I'm pretty sure that the
the gentleman that that wentfishing was from california, but
like I don't want to, I don't.
That's just wild how people gomissing in that lake and end up

(33:19):
in another lake.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, yeah, but and that's what's so intriguing is
okay if, if it's a terminal lakeand the only inlet is the
Truckee River and Lake Tahoeoverspills into it.
I don't know, it was just, itwas a story it was.
It led me in all differentkinds of directions.
Yes, it did, yes, it did, andstill confirms that I have no

(33:43):
confidence to be in water.
No, you'd be scared.
All right, what do you got?
I want to hear your story do?
yep, are we gonna?
What the matter, baby?
What am I, am I asking youafter the podcast, are you gonna
tell the whole world about thematter, baby you?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
can ask me?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
now matt?
Oh, because they're mad.
What is the matter?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
baby, nothing.
Baby.
What's the matter with you?
Get out of here, okay, youryour water.
Babies are the only real babiesthere's no such thing as a
matter.
Baby.
Well, I uh, I didn't do a place.
I did a thing, oh god, I did athing.
I did something that we'veactually done before you and I,

(34:26):
you and I have done part.
You, you and I have partaken inthis activity jail cashing, no,
but close.
So yeah, so I, I, I did a, Idid a subject, I did it.
I, I researched an activitythat you and I have partaken in
in the past and we had a lot offun.

(34:47):
Actually, jack was with us whenwe did it.
You remember when we went forour drive?
Yeah, we went to the seaside.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Sea in the seaside.
No, no, what did we?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
um, what did we do?
Jack?
Well, it was during one of oursunday drive like boo crew.
Like we've said in the past, welove taking drives and
exploring new places and seeingthe sights, so to speak, and one
of the things that I introducedJinx to not that long ago that

(35:19):
we did once and we ended up inactually really weird places.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh, the Necco?
No, no, not that thing.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I forgot what you call it.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Randonautica yeah, that thing.
So I did my.
I did my subject on onrandonautica and, for anyone who
hasn't heard of what ofrandonautica, it actually came
super popular on tiktok a fewyears ago.
I'll start at the beginning andanswer the question of what is
Randonautica?

(35:51):
It was an app that was createdby Joshua Langfelder in early
2020.
It's an app that uses a quantumrandom number generator to
provide users with randomcoordinates to visit,
encouraging them to set anintention before they embark on
their journey.
Users might think of somethinglike joy or mystery or

(36:16):
paranormal, and then follow themap to see where it leads.
The app's core relies onquantum random number generation
, which draws on the principlesof quantum physics to generate
truly random numbers.
Unlike the pseudo-random numbergenerators used in most
applications, quantum randomnessis using this data.

(36:37):
Randonautica aims to breakusers out of their habitual
thinking patterns and encouragesthem to interact with the world
in a new way the idea of quotesetting and intention has
intrigued psychologists andresearchers alike.
Studies on intention settinghave suggested that individuals

(36:58):
who are primed with specificgoals may be more likely to
receive related stimuli in theirenvironment.
So I have a few real liferandonautica stories.
That um that I came across,that I also saw on TikTok as
they were happening back whenyou know COVID was happening.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
So all you really had was so this is kind of like you
know, you have to, like youhave to say it to set it in
motion, kind of yeah so likewhen we did it we were thinking
spooky or scary or somethinglike that, and we ended up in a
freaking forest.
We did which was crazy.
We did the state like dirt roadin it, Like scary.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, yeah, we did.
Then we ended up around allthese freaking mansions.
Remember that.
Yeah, yeah I don't know.
Oh, and we ended up before.
We ended up in the forest, weended up on these back roads in
the woods.
Remember that?
Yep, we were scaring the shitout of ourselves and it was a
beautiful day, too like it wassunny out it was gorgeous.

(38:06):
So I mean, I'm a true believerin this.
Uh, this being a true thing,and even before I met you, I've
actually done it with otherpeople and being super specific
about being yellow, the coloryellow, and being led to a
yellow door on a house, and youdid with your mom.
No, you did it with your mom.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
no, hmm, you did it with your mom, I did it with two
people, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
So it's an interesting concept and a lot of
people get really interestingresults, and I am a true
believer in the quantum realmand the quantum realm.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
For anybody who doesn't know or doesn't know
much about it or do you knowabout the quantum realm?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I've spoken to you about the quantum realm.
It's basically everything thatyou don't think exists, exists
on some type of plane,everything exists Santa exists,
bigfoot exists, the boogeymanexists.
Yeah, you know, all thesethings exist.
They're just on differentplanes, they're in different
realms than we are.
Sometimes the veil lifts andthose things come into our realm
, or we go into their realm.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
There are those people that believe that we are
there.
It's time-lapsing right?
Is that different?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Quantum realm, yes, no, that's right, but you're
thinking about a differentlifting of the veil.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
So I'm going to tell you about some stories that have
come from people using theRandonautica app.
One of the most widely reportedRandonautica experiences
occurred in June of 2020, when agroup of teenagers in Seattle
used the app and found amysterious suitcase on a beach.
Upon opening it, theydiscovered human remains.

(39:46):
What, yeah?
This led to an officialinvestigation and became a viral
sensation on TikTok, and, whileit could be argued that this
was merely an unluckycoincidence, the fact that these
teenagers set out with theintention of finding something
mysterious makes it a littleunsettling.
Another one another storyinvolves a user named Jessica,

(40:10):
who set her intention to quotefind something supernatural, and
she was led to an abandonedhouse at the edge of her town,
where she claimed to have seenshadowy figures moving inside of
the house and heard faintwhispers.
Jessica documented herexperience on social media,
sharing eerie photographs ofghostly outlines that others

(40:33):
believed could be evidence ofparanormal.
This one you're going to like.
One Randonautica user actuallyset their intention as quote
something fun and ended uphaving an interesting encounter.
They were directed to a woodedarea not far from their home.
As they approached thecoordinates, they heard rustling

(40:54):
sounds and saw movement betweentrees.
Suddenly, a figure dressed as aclown emerged from the woods,
staring at them without saying aword Get the fuck out of here.
The clown stood there for a fewminutes before disappearing
back into the forest.
The user managed to capturepart of the incident on their
phone, which went viral ontiktok.

(41:16):
While it's possible this was anelaborate prank, the sheer
coincidence of encountering sucha figure after setting an
intention is kind of unnerving.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
But like, that's that person.
Like when you think ofsomething fun Mm-hmm, that's not
fun for me, Not for you.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
But maybe a clown is fun for them.
Not a clown in the fucking woods.
So there was another user namedChris, who set an intention as
history and was led to alocation deep in the countryside
.
When they arrived, they foundan overgrown path that led them
to a small, hidden cemetery fromthe 1800s.
What Gravestones were old andweather-worn, and many of them

(42:04):
belonged to children who haddied in the same year,
suggesting an outbreak or atragedy of some kind.
Chris reported feeling anoverwhelming sense of sadness
and unease, as if the area washaunted by lingering grief.
The discovery left Chriswondering whether the app had
guided him to a place offorgotten memories that wanted

(42:24):
to be uncovered.
Well, that one's bad.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
It could have been the outbreak of influenza or
smallpox.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Maybe the last one I have.
There were a group of friendsthat decided to use Randonautica
with the intention of findingquote something creepy, mm-mm.
Those are always bad ones, andwe do it too.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
We did it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
The app directed them to a deserted field on the
outskirts of their town.
When they arrived, they foundan old, tattered doll sitting
upright in the middle of thefield hell no, there were no
houses or other signs of humanactivity nearby, making the
discovery even more unsettling.
One of the friends reported thatthey began to feel dizzy and

(43:07):
nauseous as they approached thedoll and they quickly decided to
leave.
Later they wondered if the dollhad been left there
intentionally or if it wassomething more paranormal.
So it begs the question ofwhat's really going on here, and
there's several theories thathave come about by numerous
people, and the first one that Iwant to talk about is

(43:29):
synchronicity and Jungianpsychology.
The first theory is based onCarl Jung's concept of
synchronicity, the idea thatmeaningful coincidences can
reveal hidden connectionsbetween events.
When randonautical users set anintention, they may be
unknowingly attuning themselvesto certain stimuli leading them

(43:52):
to experience what feels like asignificant coincidence.
Imagine thinking aboutsomething mysterious and
suddenly being led to anabandoned, eerie house.
Jung would argue that yoursubconscious might be actively
seeking and interpreting thesepatterns.
Jung also proposed the idea ofcollective unconscious, which is

(44:12):
a deeper layer of the psycheshared across humanity.
Some believe that the apt useof random number generation may
tap into this collectiveunconscious, leading users to
locations with shared historicalor cultural resonance.
There's another theory that hasmore of a metaphysical
explanation.
Some believe that quantumrandomness and user intention

(44:33):
combine to create a form ofquantum mysticism where users
are directed to places ofheightened paranormal energy.
This is based on the idea thatconsciousness and quantum
mechanics are somehowinterconnected.
It's a controversial theory,but one that aligns with the
experiences of many randonautswho claim that they've been led

(44:55):
to haunted houses or evenencountered entities beyond our
understanding.
So before we wrap up, we need totalk about the importance of
safety when using randonautica.
Many adventures do lead toharmless fun, but there are
genuine risks.
Trespassing, getting lost oreven encountering dangerous
individuals are all realpossibilities.

(45:16):
The Seattle incident is a starkreminder of how these
explorations can take a darkturn.
So just some safety tips foranyone who wants to try
Randonautica Always go withfriends, avoid isolated areas
and never enter private property.
You gotta trust your instinctsand if something feels wrong,

(45:36):
leave immediately, and with thatI would just, you know, love to
go randonautic,randonauticalizing with you.
It was pretty scary, though itwas scary, and it was broad
daylight and it was a beautifulday out.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
I mean, but like when it led us to the state park and
then the state park went tolike dirt road.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
State parks usually don't go into dirt road unless,
like you're going to be campingor something.
But this just kept leading us.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
But there was no camping anywhere there None,
just humongous trees there wasno place to park, like if
someone was coming up the otherway.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
There was truly a one lane.
Yeah, there was no way tosqueeze anywhere, most
definitely.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Remember the motorcyclist we saw one.
We were like why is nobody?
Why is nobody around?
Yeah, that question we had yeahand there was one motorcyclist
that that we passed before wegot onto the dirt road yeah, we,
let we, he let us pass yeahthat was scary oh, and then like
the dirt road on one sideremember both sides it was water

(46:39):
.
So you know, at some point,like that washes, that washes
away it floods and the cave yeah, the cave.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's when we really needed our nocculars yeah, we
did.
Yeah, I ran on annika.
I don't.
I think it's a mix.
I think it could be intention,but sometimes it's just way too
coincidental, which makes mefeel like you know, when we have
those glitch in the matrixmoments ours have been scary,
though I know they've been likewhat the fuck?

(47:11):
Moment I know we shoulddefinitely talk about that
someday.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, those have been really really crazy when in
virginia, but like you also saidthat, like even on our drives
that we take, that when you didit one time, it led you up to
those buildings up on the top ofthe hill was that one of the
times?
And the gate was locked, ohyeah, and I and I was like screw

(47:36):
this, the gate was open and Idrove our asses up in there yeah
, that was the old military sitewhere they made bombs.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
That was crazy.
I didn't know that was there.
Yeah no one knew it was there,that was nuts there was like
animals running around, yeah,you saw an animal and then it
fucking disappeared, yeah, andit didn't even make sense.
That's yeah, definitely.
If you're going to do it, besafe.
The app is still up.
I still have the app on myphone and Rando Nautica has been

(48:10):
around for years, like beforethis guy made the app.
Like you could do it manually,mando manual randonautica.
You know you get a map or youput random, um, random
coordinates on a map with yourintention and then you just go
there on your own and uh, but hemade it easier.

(48:31):
It's a lot of fun, but it'sdefinitely and I think it has a
lot to do with who you have inyour group when you go.
If you have powerful spirits inyour group, you're going to get
more of a connection and moreof a reaction.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah for sure I mean, we didn't even tell each other
what we were thinking until well, yeah, and we were thinking the
same thing, which was weirdwhen we finally pulled each
other so we seem to always find,like the creepy, abandoned
buildings and remember theabandoned golf course, the old
golf course.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Oh, that was so cool.
I wish I could find that again.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
It's crazy.
It's crazy the things that youfind when you go on drives Like
we, I am I love just getting inthe car, getting lost and
driving.
It's amazing.
It's amazing what you find whenyou like get out there, like
things that people don't payattention to.
They may pass it every singleday and not really know what
they're passing.
It's crazy.

(49:28):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Crazy.
And that wraps up anotherepisode of Paranormal Howl Hour.
We hope you enjoyed the ghostlytales and spine-tingling
stories we've shared tonight.
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