October 2, 2024 • 47 mins
Have you ever wondered what makes a place truly haunted, or how legends are born and persist through time? Join us for an episode that promises to both entertain and spook as we celebrate our canine companion Jack's second birthday, marking the start of his 'terrible twos'. With a new, indestructible toy from PetSmart in tow, Jack is ready to help us kick off our Halloween festivities, including our cherished tradition of watching 31 movies throughout October. Get ready for a blend of personal stories and Halloween preparations that set the stage for a month filled with ghoulish fun.
Our journey then leads us to the shores of Milford, Connecticut, where the enigmatic Charles Island awaits. With tales of pirate curses, hidden treasures, and its sacred Native American roots, this island holds a rich history that is as captivating as it is chilling. We explore the island's unique accessibility during low tide, its historical significance, and the eerie phenomena reported by those brave enough to visit. The island's haunted allure serves as a testament to the power of folklore and its ability to capture our imaginations through centuries.
Finally, we venture north to the icy waters of Alaska, where the unsettling legend of the Kalupalik, the Child Snatcher, awaits. This Inuit water spirit is both mesmerizing and terrifying, adding a new layer of intrigue to our exploration of folklore. We'll unravel its similarities to sirens and mermaids and discuss its impact on Alaskan cultural lore. This episode promises a thrilling mix of ghostly encounters, historical intrigue, and eerie folklore that will leave you both fascinated and looking over your shoulder.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Omnis immundae spiritus, omnis satanica
potestas, omnis incursiainfernalis adversarii, omnis
legio, omnis congregatio etsecta diabolica.
In nomine et virtute Domininost Lord Jesus Christ, to be
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raised and exalted Welcome,boofood, to another episode of
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Paranormal Howl Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I am your host, paranormal Howl, and with me is
my spooky sass.
What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What up, Jinx?
How?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
you doing, girl, I'm good, I'm good.
I feel like we haven't donethis in forever, but we did last
week.
I know that just means that wehad a really good week.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I guess.
So yeah, it did seem like avery long time.
I have to give it to you.
It definitely did seem likeit's OK.
It was just my chair that didthat.
I know We've had enoughaccidents today.
We haven't even started andyou're already getting jumpy
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over there, woofed, oh man.
Well, I do have to say we havea birthday in the house Boo Crew
, boo, boo birthday in the house, boo crew, so put your hands
together because our boy jackturned two years old.
Today we are in the terribletwos.
Yes, we are, and he's extremelyvocal today, not, but not like
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he's not every other day, buthe's kind of been through it
today, though.
You know, yeah, he has, he'snot every other day, but he's
kind of been through it todaythough.
Yeah, he has.
He's had a very eventful day.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
He has.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Shout out to the girls at PetSmart.
They gave him an awesome nailtrimming.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He's gotten lots of love.
And Jinx, you got him this coolnew toy that he cannot
penetrate.
This dog has massive chompers.
Penetrate.
This dog has massive chompers.
And he's getting so mad becausejust jinx bought him this toy
that he just can't, he can'thandle.
Oh, and I may have spoke spokentoo soon.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, I think he just now realized what that he's
really supposed to be chewing on.
So for those of you, I know youdo not have a visual, but yes,
our dog has crocodile teeth, tosay the least, and I got him a
toy that looks like rock candyand you baked him a cake.
What, yes, yes, um, spookysweets and treats.
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Baked him some treats yes, yesweauce cake pop.
It's been a long week, it'sgoing to be a long.
I think it's going to be like along fall for me, but we have
things going on.
You did a number on the house.
I know that that is acompliment.
It is amazing.
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Not that we would ever sharewhere we live, but she did an
absolute amazing job on thehouse decorating.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We just bought two bat skeletons today that I'm in
love with yeah, we went to mysister's house to go and bring
them some spooky sweets andtreats.
We got we got, uh, halloweendecoration envy.
So, um, shout out to my sisterand my brother for having
awesome decorations we juststole your idea.
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We did Times two.
We got that bat and I put themin the trees, just like you did.
I couldn't help myself.
Yeah, those were awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They're going to be so awesome they're going to
scare the crap out of our earlymorning walkers.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Not that that was the intention, but that's just a
bonus.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It is.
I think we should announce whatwe do for spooky season,
because that's right at our backdoor yeah, and you know what?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'm going to actually add that to our website so
everyone can follow along or, ifyou want to do your own, every
year we do 31 days of halloweenmovies where every day we watch
a new halloween movie, startingfrom the 1st of October all the
way to the 31st.
Yeah, it's just kind of likesort of a thing that we've done
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since we first met and we'vejust been doing it ever since
and it's a lot of fun.
And our first this is comingout on, coming out on the 2nd.
So our first and second moviesour first movie was the shining.
We started off strong yeah, wedid.
And then the second movie wewatched was things heard and
seen.
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Things are doing yeah.
So we started with the classicand we watched it on fever tv.
And then the second movie,things heard and seen, is
actually a movie.
It's a netflix movie.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's where you can find those if you want to play
along and it's hard and seen isnew, like it's 2021.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, but it was good .
Yeah, it was good.
Minisafereed is in it.
Yeah, it's good.
They were both.
Really, I mean you can't.
We started off really strongwith the shining.
I know that was good.
That was a good start to this.
So, yes, so we are in.
We were in day two.
We do spare warning.
We're recording this September29th.
This comes out October 2nd.
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We have started because we haveso much to do in October.
We do prep ahead, but we alwayskeep track Because we have so
much.
We want to make sure that we doreach that 31 days of problems.
So it's just more attainablethat way.
Sometimes we double up fulltransparency have we?
you know, we don't watch all 31and count them.
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You know, throughout the yearwe start like the week before
October, yeah, and that's prettymuch it.
That's the only head start thatwe give ourselves and we keep.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I mean we really could have given
ourselves like a really big headstart and started off with the
new beetle juice, because we didwe did, but that's cheating.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That was the beginning of september, oh, come
on.
Well, the old beetle juice ison there.
We could launch that.
Yeah, just wanted to keep thatin there.
And if you go towwwparanormalhowlcom that page,
I will put that.
That'll becom.
That page, I will put that.
That'll be a special page.
Maybe I'll put it right on thefront page, actually the
homepage, so everyone can followalong, if you want to.
Do you guys have any moviesuggestions?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Let us know we definitely stick with OJ's.
Michael is hers, Freddie ismine.
Yeah, of course there's onesthat we have to watch every year
at least once.
The Michael Marathon was on foryou the other day.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, but I can't count that.
I was like doing stuff and youweren't watching.
You were baking.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You were decorating, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I had the Halloween Marathon on while I
was decorating Got me in thespirit.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It'll come back around.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But it it'll come back around.
But there are ones that we haveto watch every year that are
like the repeats, but it's justbecause they're like staples.
So but yeah, if you guys haveany suggestions, anyone say you
want us to check out?
We have strong stomachs and weare not afraid of much, so do
your worst except clown well,I'm scared of clowns, but I can
handle them okay.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I can handle some of it I I'm getting to
where some of the gore and gutsgets to me, but I still want to
watch it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, I'm going first .
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I'm not going first this week You're going
first this week what?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Am I going first this week?
Shit, who went?
Oh, you went first.
Okay, so I'll go, but I have topee.
Woohoo, hello fairies.
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Okay, so I guess I'm goingfirst.
Okay, I gotta get a notebook.
I really liked your vampirestory last week.
I was listening to the episodeand I was like I got so mad at
her for talking abouttuberculosis so much.
So I just want to apologize forbeing such a dick last week.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You are yeah, I felt like I was Constructive
criticism.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It was a good story, so I was struggling.
I have three stories in thechamber and I didn't know which
one to go with.
I'm going to be doing my storyon a place that you and I
actually you and I actuallyfrequent this place in passing
often.
What Do I get?
The guesses?
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This time I'll give you threeguesses.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Remington Arms.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I didn't even give you clues yet.
Oh, alright, so the first clueis Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Remington Arms, remington arms.
No, I just told you no, likethree times, oh, but I really
wanted it to be, because, youguys, if y'all don't know, it is
um crumbled down now the shottower is still the shot tower,
but majority of remington armsis it is no more.
I wonder if it's to stayhaunted if they rebuild
something there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Probably that's what's going to happen at
Norwich Hospital.
Is that what you did?
No, oh, so I'm for my secondclue oh my God.
Island, island yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Island you did, charles Island I did.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Charles Island.
You didn't even let me get tothe third clue.
I was making up those clues onthe fly.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm getting good at this guessing game.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, you are.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm ready to hear about this, though, because I
don't know much about CharlesIsland.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay, you know, when we go on our drives, we pass it,
we see it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
We say hi.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
All the time, and every time we pass it I say, oh,
that's haunted.
But for all the years thatwe've been driving past it and I
say, oh, it's haunted, I neverreally give you any background
story.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, you know, just another dick move but like I get
it though, because like it's anisland out there and I can kind
of conceptually get how it'sspooky, because, like on any
given ride, if it's foggy ormurky it looks creepy as hell.
Okay, so, charles island.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, so in honor of you, me our drives and taking
the boy for for a ride I decidedto do, charles island, so you
could kind of get the backstoryand then you can look at it
every time we go near it, aroundit, past it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean water scares the shit out of me anyway, so I
don't know that I'll ever get achance to go out there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So here's the story of Charles Island, nestled just
a short distance off the coastof Milford, connecticut.
Nestled just a short distanceoff the coast of Milford,
connecticut, charles Island mayappear at first glance to be
just another small rockylandmass, but beneath its
seemingly tranquil surface liesa history rich with mystery
legends and countless eerieoccurrences, from pirate curses
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and buried treasure to sacredNative American grounds and
ghostly apparitions.
Charles Island is a microcosmof Connecticut's folklore,
offering a glimpse into the pastthat is equally fascinating and
haunting.
So Charles Island is actuallyaccessible by foot during low
tide, thanks to a tumbleau,which is a narrow land bridge of
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sand and stone that connects itto Silver Sand State Park.
What yeah?
So it's also the samephenomenon that contributes to
the island's mystique the risingtide often traps unwary
travelers, seemingly working inconcert with the island's
storied curses to ensure thatonly those respectful of its
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secrets make it out in one piece.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So, or if you have a jet ski or a boat, so like you
got all kinds of stuff going on,you got pirates you got natives
.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well wait, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're
gonna are there goats Are there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
What Are there?
Goats?
Goats, yeah, a lot of timeslike states will put like if
they have islands like out inthe middle to keep the forage
down, they'll put goats out.
I no, they do that in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, well, dorothy, we're not in Minnesota, I know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I was just asking because that would make it even
a lot.
I would probably try to trudgethe low tide to get out there.
Maybe if there was goats, no,maybe I don't know.
You know how much I like goats,okay, but no, okay, okay, off
topic, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So before European settlers arrived in New England,
the region around Milford,including Charles Island, was
inhabited by the Pasaget people.
The Pasagets were a part of theAlgonquin language family which
you've talked about, theAlgonquins before.
Oh yes, and they were known fortheir resourcefulness,
establishing numerous villagesalong the Housatonic and
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Quinnipiac rivers.
Villages along the Housatonicand Quinnipiac rivers.
The island named Pokohog by thePasaget was considered a sacred
site, used for seasonal hunting, fishing and possibly even
ceremonial purposes.
The belief that the land wassacred may be the earliest fruit
of the tales of curses thatpersist to this day.
According to oral traditions,the Passaget chief invoked a
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curse upon the land whenEuropean settlers began
encroaching on their territoryand threatening their way of
life.
Some say that the island'smodern misfortunes and eerie
happenings are a direct resultof this ancient curse, warning
away those who would disrespector exploit the land.
The first recorded ownership ofCharles Island by European
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settlers dates back to 1657,when it was purchased by a
settler named Thomas Welch.
Over the next few decades, theisland changed hands several
times and saw varied attempts atdevelopment, including farming
and private residences.
Because, like that's a thing inConnecticut, well, you know
what it's like a thing in NewEngland people living on islands
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it's just not normal for me.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
To me, I come from the middle of the United States,
so like to live right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I mean, I brought you to see like Thimble Island and
like Guilford and all that, likewhere all those islands are and
there's freaking houses on them.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's great.
Would I do it I?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
don't think so?
Probably not.
No, you know a lot of horrormovies.
You need to know where yourexits are at all times.
Yeah, there's not a lot ofexits when there's just water,
right, so none of these ventureslasted for long.
Many attributed this to thequote quote-unquote bad luck
surrounding the island, a phrasethat would continue to resonate
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in local folklore.
One notable settler, charlesDeal, made a substantial amount
at establishing a plantation onthe island in the early 18th
century.
He tried to grow tobacco, whichwas a popular cash crop, but
his efforts were thwarted bypoor soil quality and allegedly
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supernatural disturbances.
Eventually, deal abandoned theisland and it was said that he
left in despair, muttering aboutcurses and strange happenings
that drove him from his land.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
What drove him mad?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, no, he was just pissed and he was talking.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh, but like, so it was already, like it was already
cursed from the native.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It was.
Yeah, it was cursed from thePosagas.
Listen, I apologize about mypronunciation.
I really do, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm bad and bad.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You do a lot better than I do I mean I try to listen
on YouTube like pronouncethings when I don't know a word.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I feel like any time that the natives had ownership
of something and colonialAmericans came in, whether it's
in the middle of the UnitedStates, the East Coast, the West
Coast, whatever shit just goesawry.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, states, the east coast, the west coast,
whatever shit just goes around.
Yeah, and you know I don'tblame them for putting a curse
or wishing bad, not because,listen, we've all we've united
this conversation before oh yeahbut you know, someone does you
dirty, they get what they get,yeah.
So now I want to.
I want to talk about the pirateside of this.
Okay, which is awesome, becauseI think in a past life I was
definitely a pirate.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So did, but okay, not to interrupt you.
But so did.
Charles Island get the nameCharles Island because he took
ownership of it and tried tofarmstead it.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, okay.
No discussion about CharlesIsland would be complete without
diving into one of its mostfamous legends, that of Captain
William Kidd.
Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
No, but didn't he bury the bones?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
They could be rich.
Captain Kidd was a Scottish seacaptain who was first hired as
a privateer to protect Englishinterests but later turned to
piracy.
Wow, his exploits in theCaribbean and along the American
coastline earned him bothinfamy and wealth.
You've never heard of CaptainKidd before.
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Sorry, I have not.
You know what, thoughConnecticut?
There's a lot of pirate historyhere.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Remember where I come from I'm the desert girl.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
But I brought you to Mystic.
Remember the pirate ship yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I love it all.
It's cool, it intrigued me, butI just I didn't grow up around
it, so I yeah, I'm it's okay, Ilove it though.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's okay, I teach you the way.
So Captain Kidd was captured inBoston in 1699 and later hanged
in London in 1701.
But before his arrest, however,kidd allegedly buried portions
of his ill-gotten treasure atvarious locations along the New
England coast.
Carl's Island is one such site,rumored to be the resting place
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of hidden pirate gold.
The story goes that Kidd, awareof his imminent capture, buried
the treasure with a curse todeter anyone who might try to
retrieve it.
So there have been attempts tofind Captain Kidd's treasure,
and the first documented attemptto locate his treasure on
Charles Island occurred in theearly 1800s.
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According to the local legend,a group of treasure hunters from
Milford armed with picks,shovels and torches made their
way to the island on a stormynight.
Of course it had to be a stormynight, right?
Come on, guy, let's think aboutthis.
As they began to dig, strangephenomena occurred.
Blue flames flickered aroundtheir digging site and eerie
voices were heard calling theirnames.
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Terrified, the men abandonedtheir quest and fled the island.
No one has ever claimed to havefound the treasure, but several
have attempted only to be metwith failure and inexplicable
bad luck.
Folklorists have pointed outthat such stories of ghostly
flames and disembodied voicesare common in treasure legends,
particularly those involvingpirates.
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These motifs serve to add anelement of danger and mystery,
often discouraging casualtreasure hunters from
desecrating the site.
Whether one believes in thecurse or not, the treasure of
Captain Kidd remains hidden, ifit ever existed at all.
So I guess we'll just get a jetski and metal detector and head
out to the island see if we canfind some treasure.
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Okay, but blue flames?
Yeah, it's actually common in alot of ghost pirate stories.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, I was about to say because when you mentioned
the blue flames, so I know thatanybody that likes pirate
stories right, knows about OakIsland.
Yeah, I mean the show right,they've all but dug up the whole
island looking for it.
But yeah, some of them had seenblue flames there too.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And actually that it's very common to still see
them to this day.
Seriously yeah but I'll get tothat part, okay.
In 1858, charles Island wasactually purchased by the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Hartford.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I knew.
I knew religion was going tocome into this.
Because they love islands, theydo Oak Island.
The church owns Oak Island.
No, remember the people thatwere interested with the cup and
all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Like the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Holy Grail, you're talking about that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So the intention was to turn the island into a place
for spiritual retreat andreflection, away from the
bustling towns and cities of.
Connecticut.
A large building wasconstructed to house the fateful
during their time of reflectionand the island took on a new
identity.
A tranquil, almost monasticrefuge Sounds nice right.
However, even the retreat wasnot free from the island's
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supposed curse.
Records from the dioceseindicate that several accidents
and incidents occurred duringthe construction of the retreat
building, including mysteriousinjuries to workers and even
deaths under bizarrecircumstances.
Oh no, these accidents wereseen by some as proof that the
Pogacet curse was real and thatthe island was rejecting any
attempts at permanent settlement.
So during its time as a retreat, several visitors reported
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strange and unsettlingexperiences on the island.
Some spoke of hearing voicescalling to them from forested
parts of the island, whileothers reported seeing shadowy
figures moving in the distance.
These accounts were largelydismissed by church officials,
naturally, but the storiespersisted, adding another layer
to the island's growingreputation as a haunted place.
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One particularly eerie storyinvolves a young priest who
stayed on the island in the late19th century.
He reportedly saw a ghostlyship anchored just off the coast
of the island one foggy evening.
He claimed that the shipappeared to be from the 18th
century, with tattered sails andshadowy figures on deck.
When he turned to approach, theship vanished without a trace.
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The sighting has often beenlinked to the legend of Captain
Kidd, with some believing thespirits of Kidd's crew continue
to watch over their buriedtreasure.
In the more recent years,charles Island has become a
popular destination forparanormal investigators.
Groups have visited the islandarmed with cameras, voice
recorders and other devices, inan attempt to capture evidence
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of ghostly activity.
Evp recordings have allegedlypicked up voices saying phrases
like leave the island and thetreasure is cursed.
Photographs taken on the islandhave also shown strange orbs of
light, often considered byparanormal enthusiasts to be
manifestations of spirits.
While skeptics attribute theseorbs to camera malfunctions or
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natural light reflections,believers argue that the
consistency and positions of theorbs suggest something more
supernatural.
So there are some firsthandaccounts.
There are local residents ofMilford and visitors to the
island that have shared numerousfirsthand accounts of eerie
experiences.
The island that have sharednumerous firsthand accounts of
eerie experiences.
A Milford local recounted hisstory of being stranded on the
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island after high tide cut offhis return route.
According to this person, asdarkness fell he began to hear
faint whispers and the sounds offootsteps circling his camp.
Despite shining his flashlight,he saw nothing.
When he finally made it back tothe mainland the next morning,
he swore never to return toTrowb.
Another chilling tale involvesa group of friends who visited
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the island in the early 2000s.
As they explored the interiorof the island, they reported
feeling an overwhelming sense ofdread.
One member of the group claimedshe saw a figure standing
between the trees dressed inwhat appeared to be colonial era
clothing.
The figure reportedly vanishedbefore her eyes, leaving her
shaken and convinced that theisland was truly haunted.
In terms of the blue lights, oneof the most persistent ghost
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stories associated with CharlesIsland involves the appearance
of mysterious blue lights.
These blue lights are said toappear on stormy nights,
flickering around the island'sedge and moving as if guided by
unseen hands.
Some believe that these lightsare the spirits of the pirates
guarding their treasure, whileothers think that it's connected
to sacred rituals of thePogacit.
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Reports of these blue lightsdate back over a century and
they continue to this day.
Scientists have proposed thatthe lights could be caused by a
natural phenomenon known as StElmo's fire, which is a type of
electrical discharge often seenduring thunderstorms.
However, this explanationdoesn't sit well with those who
have seen the lights and felt aninexplicable sense of being
watched.
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Now, you and I have been therefrom a distance, seen it.
There's actually I'm not goingto discount anyone's belief but,
being a healthy skepticic thereare a lot of distractions
surrounding that island.
You get a lot of light, a lotof reflection and you see a lot
of different things surroundingthat island from the shore.
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So I guess it's one of thosethings where you have to see it
to believe it.
But that for being an islandright, it's a secluded piece of
land it is really busysurrounding surrounding the
island it is.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I mean, there's a lot of people like from what do you
call it like that, the littleyard where you keep your your
boat, you know?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
the dock yeah um the shipping yard I mean the dock,
the not shipping yard.
That's for boats that areshipping Boat yard.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, so like all the way out, like you have land on
one side and then you have landon the other, I would be curious
to know what the people on likethe other, like not the side
that we're on, but like on theother side what they see,
because I feel like that side iscloser to the island.
It probably isn't.
You're in a sound and there'smarkers for the big ships that
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come in and stuff.
So yeah, I mean I don't want todiscount it either I don't want
to.
Yeah, I don't want to discountit, but it's a very busy for a
place that's not busy but likeI'm sorry, if I'm going to be
seeing like apparitions withlike colonial wear on, I'm gonna
be, I'm gonna be asking somequestions, yeah today.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Currently, charles island is part of Silver Sands
State Park and it's protected asa natural reserve.
From May through August, theisland serves as a sanctuary for
nesting birds, including heronsand egrets, which we do see a
lot of During these months.
Access to the island isrestricted to protect the
delicate ecosystem and ensurethat the birds are not disturbed
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, which I totally respect.
The island's status as aprotected area adds to its
mystique.
Supposedly as public access islimited.
These restrictions have helpedpreserve both the natural beauty
of the island and its eerie,abandoned atmosphere, making it
an attractive destination forthose interested in
Connecticut's haunted history.
I would still go there.
(26:23):
I mean, when you're allowed to.
Yeah, you just need to get ajet ski.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, no, jet ski.
You want a kayak out there?
You're looking at somebody thatdoesn't like water.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well then I'll go, You're going to give me the
biggest boat that gets.
I'm not going to run a fuckingyacht to go take you 100 yards,
get out of here.
Well, you're not gonna give mesome dingy either.
I'm gonna give you a radio andI'm gonna let you know what I
see.
You're gonna have a bad case offomo.
So I mentioned the uh, thetumbleau uh, earlier.
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It's one of the unique featuresof charles island.
Yeah, I'm gonna connect to themainland land on low tide.
I mean it connects to themainland on low tide and you've
seen it before in differentparts of the beach where people
can just walk out.
We have one close to us.
So, while the land bridgeallows easy access, it also
poses significant danger.
The tide rises quickly and manyvisitors have found themselves
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stranded when the waters cut offtheir path back to shore, which
is funny, but also.
If you knew the people aroundhere, it's not surprising, and
rescue operations are notuncommon.
Several people have needed tobe saved after misjudging the
timing of the tide.
Go figure.
(27:40):
And this element of danger addsto the island's allure, or, you
know, connecticut residents,stupidity, and hey, I'm allowed
to say it, I'm a resident hereand I'm gonna say it I was born
and raised here.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I mean I still don't have like the low tide, high
tide thing worked out in my headyet, so I mean I'd be one of
those stupid people but also,like the people that are going
there and doing this, they'reresidents of, they've been
around the water, they're coastpeople, yeah.
That's embarrassing?
Well, not unless they're likeyou know it's embarrassing.
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Paranormal, like people thatare going out.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
If they're paranormal people going out they have some
set of survival skills thatthey have acquired over time.
I would hope so.
These are just.
I'm going to stop talking shitabout Connecticut.
Yeah, of course we know who youare.
You should be embarrassed.
Okay, I'm done so.
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Some believe the tides are partof the island's protective
purse, working to keep unwantedvisitors aware to punish those
who overstay their welcome.
Good, be punished.
Okay, I'm done, for real thistime.
Charles Island is a place wherehistory, legend and nature
converge in fascinating andsometimes frightening ways.
From its origins as a sacredNative American site to its
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rumored role as a pirate'shiding place for treasure, the
island has been the setting forcountless stories of adventure,
misfortune and the supernatural.
The Roman Catholic retreatadded a further layer of
spirituality and perhapslingering spirit to this already
storied landscape.
Whether or not you believe incurses or ghostly apparitions,
there's no denying the power ofCharles Island legends.
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I just think that it's supercool that it went from pirates
to the church.
It's very confusing.
I mean, I'm not surprised, butI mean, you know, charles Island
, it's an island and it offersan opportunity to step into a
different world.
It's not too far from land, butI can only imagine when you're
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on that, on that piece of land,how far away you must feel.
You know, yeah, I mean, but Iwould totally go you would have
to fuck up.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean I fucked up and I've gone out on the water.
I mean I used to love going andgoing fishing.
I mean I'm from the land of tenthousand lakes, right you live
there I live there, lived therebut and they were gorgeous and
they were beautiful and I wouldget out on the boat and I would
go fishing where I had my littlecabin.
There was actually a littleIsland and people had houses out
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there.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's my story.
I love your story.
It was a.
It was a sweet little story.
I'm going to look at CharlesIsland differently.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Now I'm going to be like really you drive, I want to
look this time just to see if Ican see anything.
Usually drive, yeah, well, wetake time, so like, but like,
why have questions do you?
Do you think that there's likethe spirit of captain kid that
I've seen too many pirates ofthe caribbean?
(30:44):
I think?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't know.
I think you're right.
I don't know.
I think that.
Yeah, I think that water holdsa lot of energy.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, I mean so it's not.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
it's not very far-fetched and it's very
undisturbed.
So I think that it's definitelypossible that you have a lot of
different spirits from a lot ofdifferent realms, from a lot of
different times that are there,and it starts with the Native
Americans.
It always starts with theNative Americans.
They really leave their mark.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'd like to take Amy Allen out there.
Tell me what you hear only if Itake amy bruny out.
Okay, you take bruny, I'll takeallen, okay, so um last
question yeah, is the buildingstill out there?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know.
We never see a building, sonext time we're gonna take her
fucking.
But no, maybe after this we'llgo out there and we'll take her
binoculars.
Okay, we'll go try to look.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I probably won't see anything because it's dark,
because that sparked my interest, because I don't ever remember
I've never seen a building there, yeah, so I wonder if it's not
there anymore.
I mean it would hold a retreatfor like the birds and like
animals, obviously now Rightright.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, I would think that nature would have taken it
over, or they knocked it downand just put it back to what it
was.
But there's so many trees thereare.
There are a lot of trees overthere, so you can't really see
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I mean it was like it was a farmstead and they
tried to make it a.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well, the building went up when the church went.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, but like, where did Charles live?
Though, he had to havesomewhere that he lived, he
lived in a damn tent Jesus,didn't it say?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It said he was in a campground.
It said it you didn't listen tome.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I did listen to your story.
But when you say campground,like he could have, you know he
could have made like a littlemakeshift like little cabin.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, that's fucking glamping.
All right, we don't do thataround here.
I get it, I get it All right.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
fine, I liked your story.
Thanks, I want to go snoop nowOkay.
We can someone with a boat togo out there?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
just leave us there, we're not.
No, oh, just a day trip.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, early day trip, boring, but okay all right, I
got a pretty short story for youI have no idea what your
stories are I know, and like Ifelt like I put so much energy
into my next two stories that Ihave for you guys, and then I'm
looking at it, I'm like going,whoa, I don't, I don't have much
(33:22):
, it's okay, it's quality overquantity, yeah, and, and I
really read, I was, I was intomy reading this week.
Maybe that's why I just Idelved down into everything.
Okay, so this week we're goingto Alaska.
Oh shit, never been.
But I wanted to do somethinglike outside the box, like
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paranormal people don't likethey don't go out to the, you
know.
You don't hear very many storiesfrom Alaska.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You don't.
But there are a lot of moviesand TV shows about Alaska and
they're always fucking scary,except for the proposal.
Um, but you have so manydifferent stories and movies
that yeah, if you haven'twatched what's that one with
jodie foster?
Oh true, detective nightcountry with jodie foster yes,
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you guys need to watch it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
it's amazing, it it's really good.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, you can always tell the mark of an exceptional
actor or actress when they areusually a main character, but
they're able to pull off asupporting character and not
steal the show.
It just made me reallyappreciate jodie foster's
talents even more.
(34:37):
Yeah, she really let.
She really let the other actorsshowcase.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, it was good.
Okay, so we're going.
We're going to the coast ofalaska yeah my first thought of
when I was doing this it waslike, okay, well, there's no
mermaids, there's no, nothing,but like, when you think of
things in the water, that wouldbe.
Those are the first couple ofthings that I think of, besides
sharks.
Like, I want to think ofsomething nice, but you know,
(35:02):
you think of mermaids,kind-hearted, beautiful,
half-ish, half-human maidens,right, and then there's the
sirens that entice you, pull youunder.
You know, not so nice, thoseare scary, those are scary, but
like, I'm still intrigued bythem.
Which brings us to third thingthat you could potentially find
in the water, which is acalupali A.
(35:25):
What A calupali A.
Calupali, calupali, calupali,calupali.
Like leak.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Like, you need a leak Calupali, mm-hmm.
Kalupalik.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Like leak, like you need a leak, kalupalik.
Kalupalik, yes, it is native.
We're sticking with the nativestuff here.
Okay, kalupalik.
Yes, so this is the legend ofthe Kalupaliks.
It is a figure that is bothmesmerizing and chilling to
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Alaskan ears.
It is a water spirit that isrecognized by the Inuit as a
cryptid called the ChildSnatcher.
That's terrifying, yeah, theInuit describe the Kalupalik as
a snatcher of wayward childrenwho venture too close to the
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frigid waters.
The sea-dwelling humanoid, withher uncanny charms specifically
her humming to lure her preyinto her vices and threatening
aura, has an appearance thatdiffers across tales told, but
they are almost alwayscommonalities.
The main difference between itseems to some describe it more
(36:42):
as a male figure, whereas moretimes than not it is told in the
female perspective.
Okay, so they can be male orfemale.
They can be male or femaledepending on you know what
legend you want it to come from.
Okay, and the way that peoplehave described seeing it.
Sure, the physical descriptionof a Kalupali is key to
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understanding its role as achild snatcher.
In the Inuit folklore, as itseerie existence, as a sea spirit
, the mythical figure is oftendescribed as having a vastly
green hue, with her skintypically scaly and slimy to the
touch.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Ew.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Well, she grows, she lives in the water.
She grows, they grow.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
She has a mane of darkled, tangled long hair,
extra more extraordinarily longarms and terrifyingly long
powers oh god, well, yeah,you're in the water.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Your nails are gonna grow fast.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, hot water is that it is said that they have
two flippers.
One is able to admit a shrillsound that paralyzes the victim.
The semi-aquatic form isfurther emphasized by the
presence of fins that sproutfrom the head, neck and torso.
(38:11):
Okay, so they also have theability to alter their
appearance through a techniquewhich is called mind my
pronunciation here, I'm sorrypeople pollutant minute.
They try to trick um.
So they, in essence, can shapeshift if they want to.
But what?
(38:32):
The?
The innuents had found out thatthey're the most vulnerable
when they shapeshift, so theywould try to get the shapeshift
so that they could lower theshore and capture it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So would they shapeshift into something
familiar, or would theyshapeshift into something
innocent, innocent?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Like it could be like a whale or an otter or
something.
See from the sea.
Okay, mostly most of the talesthat I had read about were um
whales and otters.
But yeah, they, they lose a lotof their I'd be dead.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Otters are cute.
I'd be dead, they'd besnatching me I mean it works
both ways, right?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I mean, it's, the cat is weak, it's so you could
essentially kill it, or it couldcome up on you and, you know,
change back into the colopalicand but you're not a child.
So there's, I'm a child atheart, yeah.
So the Kalopalik make theirhome primarily in the frigid
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depths of all of the Arcticwaters, along the northern
shores of Alaska, but parts ofCanada as well, so the Canadians
could see it too.
This spirit, the Kalopalvalic,is notorious for taking young
victims into her comica, whichis a type of pouch that the
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Inuits would have.
That wasn't uncommon to seefemales with those.
So why not a child smasher,right?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I know exactly what this thing looks like.
You just, I just realized whatyou're talking about.
This thing is terrifying.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Okay, continue so, depending on the narrative, some
say she consumes these childrenfor the innocent energy to
remain immortal, while otherspropose she nurtures them
beneath the sea as if they wereher own offspring.
Nevertheless, it sounds likeHollywood.
(40:41):
Nevertheless, they are never tobe seen again.
Sometimes the Kalupalik willknock under the ice, drawing a
child to a weak part or a holein the ice to steal them away.
So there is a.
It's a tall tale, but it's astory with reason, because a lot
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of the Inuits and other nativeswould use this story to teach
the children about the risk ofgetting too close to the water.
So the tale is a crucial part ofthe indigenous people,
ingrained deeply in their dailylives and serves as a lesson
about respecting nature and theunknown.
There are tales of childrenwillingly being given to the
(41:22):
Kolopalik as well.
One such tale is about agrandmother and her grandson
struggling without food.
The grandmother called upon theKolopalik to come and take him
away, as she was not able tofeed him and he would be better
off.
Yeah, not if the kalopalik washungry.
You got a 50 50 shot, hopefully.
(41:44):
Hopefully it wasn't fat, becauseyou know I mean true, you got a
50 50 shot right.
So once the tribe was able tosuccessfully hunt again, a young
Inuit couple took it uponthemselves to try to retrieve
the child.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
What?
This is not a fucking pawn shoppeople.
The Kalupalik is the childtrafficking pawn shop, so they
were able to track her down,track them down.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
They were able to track the child down tethered to
a piece of seaweed, theKalupali.
They could not escape, so theywould essentially just tie them
to the seaweed.
However, they were not able toretrieve him because the
Kalupali would drag him backunder the waves whenever they
got too close.
So it was kind of like thehorse kind of thing.
(42:35):
Ha ha, here he is.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You can't have him, this kid probably drowned
Chinese water torture, that'swaterboarding.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
They would try to stealthily hide nearby and cut
him loose while the Kalupalikslept.
And they cut him loose and herose once again.
It was a happy story this talehas some versions of the
grandmother giving the child tothe colopalik as a punishment,
while others speak of himbecoming a great hunter after he
(43:06):
was rescued wow, that's nice.
Yeah, well, that version, thatversion's nice that version's
nice, yeah, but yeah, so thatthat's.
I mean, it's like a tall talewith meaning and I don't, I
definitely don't discard thesekind of stories because they
just have so much meaning to thepeople that have them.
(43:28):
I mean, it's just like youcan't, you can't take away
stories and beliefs fromindigenous or natives, because
that's just's their whole livesand it does.
It has a wonderful meaning toit.
Very strong culture, very greatstories, very strong lessons.
Yeah, I mean I've, I've watched, like the what, what is that
show, the alaska out, like youknow, the alaskan, the bush
(43:49):
people, yeah, but there's onewhere she, she's inuit and um
married and taught her husbandhow to live the Inuit way yeah,
and her children, at a veryyoung, like in the Amatug, would
go out hunting with her.
Well, from birth on and they'remaster hunters.
(44:10):
And I was like, oh man, I meanthis thing is like terrifying.
Like I have seen pictures oflike what it would look like, so
I put one.
It's scary as shit.
I mean it's thing is terrifying.
I have seen pictures of what itwould look like, so I put one.
It's scary as shit.
I mean it's got seaweed hangingoff of her hair and she's got
four or five.
She's got a little kid on hersack.
(44:30):
Yeah, there's four or five ofthem that.
I'm looking at and it lookslike she's made solely like,
solely out of like veins, andlike her hands are think of the
worst wicked witch in the world.
And then that's, that's whatshe got, and that, and that's my
story.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
That was good, I like that.
I really like the.
I like the alaskan, the inuitculture.
I like hearing stories likethat.
I don't't like the cold.
Well, not all of Alaska is cold.
I mean, it's not cold.
It's not ice and snow all thetime.
Yeah, in the mountains andstuff.
But it's actually very green andbeautiful Not that I've ever
(45:08):
been there, but you know.
You know, I've seen it on TV.
I've seen things.
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Omnis immundae spiritus, omnis satanica
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legio, omnis congregatio etsecta diabolica.
In nomine et virtute Domininost Lord Jesus Christ, to be
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raised and exalted Welcome,boofood, to another episode of
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Paranormal Howl Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I am your host, paranormal Howl, and with me is
my spooky sass.
What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What up, Jinx?
How?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
you doing, girl, I'm good, I'm good.
I feel like we haven't donethis in forever, but we did last
week.
I know that just means that wehad a really good week.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I guess.
So yeah, it did seem like avery long time.
I have to give it to you.
It definitely did seem likeit's OK.
It was just my chair that didthat.
I know We've had enoughaccidents today.
We haven't even started andyou're already getting jumpy
(01:35):
over there, woofed, oh man.
Well, I do have to say we havea birthday in the house Boo Crew
, boo, boo birthday in the house, boo crew, so put your hands
together because our boy jackturned two years old.
Today we are in the terribletwos.
Yes, we are, and he's extremelyvocal today, not, but not like
(02:00):
he's not every other day, buthe's kind of been through it
today, though.
You know, yeah, he has, he'snot every other day, but he's
kind of been through it todaythough.
Yeah, he has.
He's had a very eventful day.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
He has.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Shout out to the girls at PetSmart.
They gave him an awesome nailtrimming.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He's gotten lots of love.
And Jinx, you got him this coolnew toy that he cannot
penetrate.
This dog has massive chompers.
Penetrate.
This dog has massive chompers.
And he's getting so mad becausejust jinx bought him this toy
that he just can't, he can'thandle.
Oh, and I may have spoke spokentoo soon.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, I think he just now realized what that he's
really supposed to be chewing on.
So for those of you, I know youdo not have a visual, but yes,
our dog has crocodile teeth, tosay the least, and I got him a
toy that looks like rock candyand you baked him a cake.
What, yes, yes, um, spookysweets and treats.
(02:57):
Baked him some treats yes, yesweauce cake pop.
It's been a long week, it'sgoing to be a long.
I think it's going to be like along fall for me, but we have
things going on.
You did a number on the house.
I know that that is acompliment.
It is amazing.
(03:18):
Not that we would ever sharewhere we live, but she did an
absolute amazing job on thehouse decorating.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We just bought two bat skeletons today that I'm in
love with yeah, we went to mysister's house to go and bring
them some spooky sweets andtreats.
We got we got, uh, halloweendecoration envy.
So, um, shout out to my sisterand my brother for having
awesome decorations we juststole your idea.
(03:46):
We did Times two.
We got that bat and I put themin the trees, just like you did.
I couldn't help myself.
Yeah, those were awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They're going to be so awesome they're going to
scare the crap out of our earlymorning walkers.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Not that that was the intention, but that's just a
bonus.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It is.
I think we should announce whatwe do for spooky season,
because that's right at our backdoor yeah, and you know what?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'm going to actually add that to our website so
everyone can follow along or, ifyou want to do your own, every
year we do 31 days of halloweenmovies where every day we watch
a new halloween movie, startingfrom the 1st of October all the
way to the 31st.
Yeah, it's just kind of likesort of a thing that we've done
(04:30):
since we first met and we'vejust been doing it ever since
and it's a lot of fun.
And our first this is comingout on, coming out on the 2nd.
So our first and second moviesour first movie was the shining.
We started off strong yeah, wedid.
And then the second movie wewatched was things heard and
seen.
(04:50):
Things are doing yeah.
So we started with the classicand we watched it on fever tv.
And then the second movie,things heard and seen, is
actually a movie.
It's a netflix movie.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's where you can find those if you want to play
along and it's hard and seen isnew, like it's 2021.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, but it was good .
Yeah, it was good.
Minisafereed is in it.
Yeah, it's good.
They were both.
Really, I mean you can't.
We started off really strongwith the shining.
I know that was good.
That was a good start to this.
So, yes, so we are in.
We were in day two.
We do spare warning.
We're recording this September29th.
This comes out October 2nd.
(05:29):
We have started because we haveso much to do in October.
We do prep ahead, but we alwayskeep track Because we have so
much.
We want to make sure that we doreach that 31 days of problems.
So it's just more attainablethat way.
Sometimes we double up fulltransparency have we?
you know, we don't watch all 31and count them.
(05:51):
You know, throughout the yearwe start like the week before
October, yeah, and that's prettymuch it.
That's the only head start thatwe give ourselves and we keep.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I mean we really could have given
ourselves like a really big headstart and started off with the
new beetle juice, because we didwe did, but that's cheating.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That was the beginning of september, oh, come
on.
Well, the old beetle juice ison there.
We could launch that.
Yeah, just wanted to keep thatin there.
And if you go towwwparanormalhowlcom that page,
I will put that.
That'll becom.
That page, I will put that.
That'll be a special page.
Maybe I'll put it right on thefront page, actually the
homepage, so everyone can followalong, if you want to.
Do you guys have any moviesuggestions?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Let us know we definitely stick with OJ's.
Michael is hers, Freddie ismine.
Yeah, of course there's onesthat we have to watch every year
at least once.
The Michael Marathon was on foryou the other day.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, but I can't count that.
I was like doing stuff and youweren't watching.
You were baking.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You were decorating, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I had the Halloween Marathon on while I
was decorating Got me in thespirit.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It'll come back around.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But it it'll come back around.
But there are ones that we haveto watch every year that are
like the repeats, but it's justbecause they're like staples.
So but yeah, if you guys haveany suggestions, anyone say you
want us to check out?
We have strong stomachs and weare not afraid of much, so do
your worst except clown well,I'm scared of clowns, but I can
handle them okay.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I can handle some of it I I'm getting to
where some of the gore and gutsgets to me, but I still want to
watch it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, I'm going first .
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I'm not going first this week You're going
first this week what?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Am I going first this week?
Shit, who went?
Oh, you went first.
Okay, so I'll go, but I have topee.
Woohoo, hello fairies.
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Okay, so I guess I'm goingfirst.
Okay, I gotta get a notebook.
I really liked your vampirestory last week.
I was listening to the episodeand I was like I got so mad at
her for talking abouttuberculosis so much.
So I just want to apologize forbeing such a dick last week.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You are yeah, I felt like I was Constructive
criticism.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It was a good story, so I was struggling.
I have three stories in thechamber and I didn't know which
one to go with.
I'm going to be doing my storyon a place that you and I
actually you and I actuallyfrequent this place in passing
often.
What Do I get?
The guesses?
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This time I'll give you threeguesses.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Remington Arms.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I didn't even give you clues yet.
Oh, alright, so the first clueis Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Remington Arms, remington arms.
No, I just told you no, likethree times, oh, but I really
wanted it to be, because, youguys, if y'all don't know, it is
um crumbled down now the shottower is still the shot tower,
but majority of remington armsis it is no more.
I wonder if it's to stayhaunted if they rebuild
something there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Probably that's what's going to happen at
Norwich Hospital.
Is that what you did?
No, oh, so I'm for my secondclue oh my God.
Island, island yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Island you did, charles Island I did.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Charles Island.
You didn't even let me get tothe third clue.
I was making up those clues onthe fly.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm getting good at this guessing game.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, you are.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm ready to hear about this, though, because I
don't know much about CharlesIsland.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay, you know, when we go on our drives, we pass it,
we see it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
We say hi.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
All the time, and every time we pass it I say, oh,
that's haunted.
But for all the years thatwe've been driving past it and I
say, oh, it's haunted, I neverreally give you any background
story.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, you know, just another dick move but like I get
it though, because like it's anisland out there and I can kind
of conceptually get how it'sspooky, because, like on any
given ride, if it's foggy ormurky it looks creepy as hell.
Okay, so, charles island.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, so in honor of you, me our drives and taking
the boy for for a ride I decidedto do, charles island, so you
could kind of get the backstoryand then you can look at it
every time we go near it, aroundit, past it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean water scares the shit out of me anyway, so I
don't know that I'll ever get achance to go out there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So here's the story of Charles Island, nestled just
a short distance off the coastof Milford, connecticut.
Nestled just a short distanceoff the coast of Milford,
connecticut, charles Island mayappear at first glance to be
just another small rockylandmass, but beneath its
seemingly tranquil surface liesa history rich with mystery
legends and countless eerieoccurrences, from pirate curses
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and buried treasure to sacredNative American grounds and
ghostly apparitions.
Charles Island is a microcosmof Connecticut's folklore,
offering a glimpse into the pastthat is equally fascinating and
haunting.
So Charles Island is actuallyaccessible by foot during low
tide, thanks to a tumbleau,which is a narrow land bridge of
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sand and stone that connects itto Silver Sand State Park.
What yeah?
So it's also the samephenomenon that contributes to
the island's mystique the risingtide often traps unwary
travelers, seemingly working inconcert with the island's
storied curses to ensure thatonly those respectful of its
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secrets make it out in one piece.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So, or if you have a jet ski or a boat, so like you
got all kinds of stuff going on,you got pirates you got natives
.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well wait, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're
gonna are there goats Are there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
What Are there?
Goats?
Goats, yeah, a lot of timeslike states will put like if
they have islands like out inthe middle to keep the forage
down, they'll put goats out.
I no, they do that in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, well, dorothy, we're not in Minnesota, I know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I was just asking because that would make it even
a lot.
I would probably try to trudgethe low tide to get out there.
Maybe if there was goats, no,maybe I don't know.
You know how much I like goats,okay, but no, okay, okay, off
topic, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So before European settlers arrived in New England,
the region around Milford,including Charles Island, was
inhabited by the Pasaget people.
The Pasagets were a part of theAlgonquin language family which
you've talked about, theAlgonquins before.
Oh yes, and they were known fortheir resourcefulness,
establishing numerous villagesalong the Housatonic and
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Quinnipiac rivers.
Villages along the Housatonicand Quinnipiac rivers.
The island named Pokohog by thePasaget was considered a sacred
site, used for seasonal hunting, fishing and possibly even
ceremonial purposes.
The belief that the land wassacred may be the earliest fruit
of the tales of curses thatpersist to this day.
According to oral traditions,the Passaget chief invoked a
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curse upon the land whenEuropean settlers began
encroaching on their territoryand threatening their way of
life.
Some say that the island'smodern misfortunes and eerie
happenings are a direct resultof this ancient curse, warning
away those who would disrespector exploit the land.
The first recorded ownership ofCharles Island by European
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settlers dates back to 1657,when it was purchased by a
settler named Thomas Welch.
Over the next few decades, theisland changed hands several
times and saw varied attempts atdevelopment, including farming
and private residences.
Because, like that's a thing inConnecticut, well, you know
what it's like a thing in NewEngland people living on islands
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it's just not normal for me.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
To me, I come from the middle of the United States,
so like to live right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I mean, I brought you to see like Thimble Island and
like Guilford and all that, likewhere all those islands are and
there's freaking houses on them.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's great.
Would I do it I?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
don't think so?
Probably not.
No, you know a lot of horrormovies.
You need to know where yourexits are at all times.
Yeah, there's not a lot ofexits when there's just water,
right, so none of these ventureslasted for long.
Many attributed this to thequote quote-unquote bad luck
surrounding the island, a phrasethat would continue to resonate
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in local folklore.
One notable settler, charlesDeal, made a substantial amount
at establishing a plantation onthe island in the early 18th
century.
He tried to grow tobacco, whichwas a popular cash crop, but
his efforts were thwarted bypoor soil quality and allegedly
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supernatural disturbances.
Eventually, deal abandoned theisland and it was said that he
left in despair, muttering aboutcurses and strange happenings
that drove him from his land.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
What drove him mad?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, no, he was just pissed and he was talking.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh, but like, so it was already, like it was already
cursed from the native.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It was.
Yeah, it was cursed from thePosagas.
Listen, I apologize about mypronunciation.
I really do, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm bad and bad.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You do a lot better than I do I mean I try to listen
on YouTube like pronouncethings when I don't know a word.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I feel like any time that the natives had ownership
of something and colonialAmericans came in, whether it's
in the middle of the UnitedStates, the East Coast, the West
Coast, whatever shit just goesawry.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, states, the east coast, the west coast,
whatever shit just goes around.
Yeah, and you know I don'tblame them for putting a curse
or wishing bad, not because,listen, we've all we've united
this conversation before oh yeahbut you know, someone does you
dirty, they get what they get,yeah.
So now I want to.
I want to talk about the pirateside of this.
Okay, which is awesome, becauseI think in a past life I was
definitely a pirate.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So did, but okay, not to interrupt you.
But so did.
Charles Island get the nameCharles Island because he took
ownership of it and tried tofarmstead it.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, okay.
No discussion about CharlesIsland would be complete without
diving into one of its mostfamous legends, that of Captain
William Kidd.
Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
No, but didn't he bury the bones?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
They could be rich.
Captain Kidd was a Scottish seacaptain who was first hired as
a privateer to protect Englishinterests but later turned to
piracy.
Wow, his exploits in theCaribbean and along the American
coastline earned him bothinfamy and wealth.
You've never heard of CaptainKidd before.
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Sorry, I have not.
You know what, thoughConnecticut?
There's a lot of pirate historyhere.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Remember where I come from I'm the desert girl.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
But I brought you to Mystic.
Remember the pirate ship yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I love it all.
It's cool, it intrigued me, butI just I didn't grow up around
it, so I yeah, I'm it's okay, Ilove it though.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's okay, I teach you the way.
So Captain Kidd was captured inBoston in 1699 and later hanged
in London in 1701.
But before his arrest, however,kidd allegedly buried portions
of his ill-gotten treasure atvarious locations along the New
England coast.
Carl's Island is one such site,rumored to be the resting place
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of hidden pirate gold.
The story goes that Kidd, awareof his imminent capture, buried
the treasure with a curse todeter anyone who might try to
retrieve it.
So there have been attempts tofind Captain Kidd's treasure,
and the first documented attemptto locate his treasure on
Charles Island occurred in theearly 1800s.
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According to the local legend,a group of treasure hunters from
Milford armed with picks,shovels and torches made their
way to the island on a stormynight.
Of course it had to be a stormynight, right?
Come on, guy, let's think aboutthis.
As they began to dig, strangephenomena occurred.
Blue flames flickered aroundtheir digging site and eerie
voices were heard calling theirnames.
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Terrified, the men abandonedtheir quest and fled the island.
No one has ever claimed to havefound the treasure, but several
have attempted only to be metwith failure and inexplicable
bad luck.
Folklorists have pointed outthat such stories of ghostly
flames and disembodied voicesare common in treasure legends,
particularly those involvingpirates.
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These motifs serve to add anelement of danger and mystery,
often discouraging casualtreasure hunters from
desecrating the site.
Whether one believes in thecurse or not, the treasure of
Captain Kidd remains hidden, ifit ever existed at all.
So I guess we'll just get a jetski and metal detector and head
out to the island see if we canfind some treasure.
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Okay, but blue flames?
Yeah, it's actually common in alot of ghost pirate stories.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, I was about to say because when you mentioned
the blue flames, so I know thatanybody that likes pirate
stories right, knows about OakIsland.
Yeah, I mean the show right,they've all but dug up the whole
island looking for it.
But yeah, some of them had seenblue flames there too.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And actually that it's very common to still see
them to this day.
Seriously yeah but I'll get tothat part, okay.
In 1858, charles Island wasactually purchased by the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Hartford.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I knew.
I knew religion was going tocome into this.
Because they love islands, theydo Oak Island.
The church owns Oak Island.
No, remember the people thatwere interested with the cup and
all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Like the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Holy Grail, you're talking about that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So the intention was to turn the island into a place
for spiritual retreat andreflection, away from the
bustling towns and cities of.
Connecticut.
A large building wasconstructed to house the fateful
during their time of reflectionand the island took on a new
identity.
A tranquil, almost monasticrefuge Sounds nice right.
However, even the retreat wasnot free from the island's
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supposed curse.
Records from the dioceseindicate that several accidents
and incidents occurred duringthe construction of the retreat
building, including mysteriousinjuries to workers and even
deaths under bizarrecircumstances.
Oh no, these accidents wereseen by some as proof that the
Pogacet curse was real and thatthe island was rejecting any
attempts at permanent settlement.
So during its time as a retreat, several visitors reported
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strange and unsettlingexperiences on the island.
Some spoke of hearing voicescalling to them from forested
parts of the island, whileothers reported seeing shadowy
figures moving in the distance.
These accounts were largelydismissed by church officials,
naturally, but the storiespersisted, adding another layer
to the island's growingreputation as a haunted place.
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One particularly eerie storyinvolves a young priest who
stayed on the island in the late19th century.
He reportedly saw a ghostlyship anchored just off the coast
of the island one foggy evening.
He claimed that the shipappeared to be from the 18th
century, with tattered sails andshadowy figures on deck.
When he turned to approach, theship vanished without a trace.
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The sighting has often beenlinked to the legend of Captain
Kidd, with some believing thespirits of Kidd's crew continue
to watch over their buriedtreasure.
In the more recent years,charles Island has become a
popular destination forparanormal investigators.
Groups have visited the islandarmed with cameras, voice
recorders and other devices, inan attempt to capture evidence
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of ghostly activity.
Evp recordings have allegedlypicked up voices saying phrases
like leave the island and thetreasure is cursed.
Photographs taken on the islandhave also shown strange orbs of
light, often considered byparanormal enthusiasts to be
manifestations of spirits.
While skeptics attribute theseorbs to camera malfunctions or
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natural light reflections,believers argue that the
consistency and positions of theorbs suggest something more
supernatural.
So there are some firsthandaccounts.
There are local residents ofMilford and visitors to the
island that have shared numerousfirsthand accounts of eerie
experiences.
The island that have sharednumerous firsthand accounts of
eerie experiences.
A Milford local recounted hisstory of being stranded on the
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island after high tide cut offhis return route.
According to this person, asdarkness fell he began to hear
faint whispers and the sounds offootsteps circling his camp.
Despite shining his flashlight,he saw nothing.
When he finally made it back tothe mainland the next morning,
he swore never to return toTrowb.
Another chilling tale involvesa group of friends who visited
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the island in the early 2000s.
As they explored the interiorof the island, they reported
feeling an overwhelming sense ofdread.
One member of the group claimedshe saw a figure standing
between the trees dressed inwhat appeared to be colonial era
clothing.
The figure reportedly vanishedbefore her eyes, leaving her
shaken and convinced that theisland was truly haunted.
In terms of the blue lights, oneof the most persistent ghost
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stories associated with CharlesIsland involves the appearance
of mysterious blue lights.
These blue lights are said toappear on stormy nights,
flickering around the island'sedge and moving as if guided by
unseen hands.
Some believe that these lightsare the spirits of the pirates
guarding their treasure, whileothers think that it's connected
to sacred rituals of thePogacit.
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Reports of these blue lightsdate back over a century and
they continue to this day.
Scientists have proposed thatthe lights could be caused by a
natural phenomenon known as StElmo's fire, which is a type of
electrical discharge often seenduring thunderstorms.
However, this explanationdoesn't sit well with those who
have seen the lights and felt aninexplicable sense of being
watched.
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Now, you and I have been therefrom a distance, seen it.
There's actually I'm not goingto discount anyone's belief but,
being a healthy skepticic thereare a lot of distractions
surrounding that island.
You get a lot of light, a lotof reflection and you see a lot
of different things surroundingthat island from the shore.
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So I guess it's one of thosethings where you have to see it
to believe it.
But that for being an islandright, it's a secluded piece of
land it is really busysurrounding surrounding the
island it is.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I mean, there's a lot of people like from what do you
call it like that, the littleyard where you keep your your
boat, you know?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
the dock yeah um the shipping yard I mean the dock,
the not shipping yard.
That's for boats that areshipping Boat yard.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, so like all the way out, like you have land on
one side and then you have landon the other, I would be curious
to know what the people on likethe other, like not the side
that we're on, but like on theother side what they see,
because I feel like that side iscloser to the island.
It probably isn't.
You're in a sound and there'smarkers for the big ships that
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come in and stuff.
So yeah, I mean I don't want todiscount it either I don't want
to.
Yeah, I don't want to discountit, but it's a very busy for a
place that's not busy but likeI'm sorry, if I'm going to be
seeing like apparitions withlike colonial wear on, I'm gonna
be, I'm gonna be asking somequestions, yeah today.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Currently, charles island is part of Silver Sands
State Park and it's protected asa natural reserve.
From May through August, theisland serves as a sanctuary for
nesting birds, including heronsand egrets, which we do see a
lot of During these months.
Access to the island isrestricted to protect the
delicate ecosystem and ensurethat the birds are not disturbed
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, which I totally respect.
The island's status as aprotected area adds to its
mystique.
Supposedly as public access islimited.
These restrictions have helpedpreserve both the natural beauty
of the island and its eerie,abandoned atmosphere, making it
an attractive destination forthose interested in
Connecticut's haunted history.
I would still go there.
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I mean, when you're allowed to.
Yeah, you just need to get ajet ski.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, no, jet ski.
You want a kayak out there?
You're looking at somebody thatdoesn't like water.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well then I'll go, You're going to give me the
biggest boat that gets.
I'm not going to run a fuckingyacht to go take you 100 yards,
get out of here.
Well, you're not gonna give mesome dingy either.
I'm gonna give you a radio andI'm gonna let you know what I
see.
You're gonna have a bad case offomo.
So I mentioned the uh, thetumbleau uh, earlier.
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It's one of the unique featuresof charles island.
Yeah, I'm gonna connect to themainland land on low tide.
I mean it connects to themainland on low tide and you've
seen it before in differentparts of the beach where people
can just walk out.
We have one close to us.
So, while the land bridgeallows easy access, it also
poses significant danger.
The tide rises quickly and manyvisitors have found themselves
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stranded when the waters cut offtheir path back to shore, which
is funny, but also.
If you knew the people aroundhere, it's not surprising, and
rescue operations are notuncommon.
Several people have needed tobe saved after misjudging the
timing of the tide.
Go figure.
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And this element of danger addsto the island's allure, or, you
know, connecticut residents,stupidity, and hey, I'm allowed
to say it, I'm a resident hereand I'm gonna say it I was born
and raised here.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I mean I still don't have like the low tide, high
tide thing worked out in my headyet, so I mean I'd be one of
those stupid people but also,like the people that are going
there and doing this, they'reresidents of, they've been
around the water, they're coastpeople, yeah.
That's embarrassing?
Well, not unless they're likeyou know it's embarrassing.
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Paranormal, like people thatare going out.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
If they're paranormal people going out they have some
set of survival skills thatthey have acquired over time.
I would hope so.
These are just.
I'm going to stop talking shitabout Connecticut.
Yeah, of course we know who youare.
You should be embarrassed.
Okay, I'm done so.
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Some believe the tides are partof the island's protective
purse, working to keep unwantedvisitors aware to punish those
who overstay their welcome.
Good, be punished.
Okay, I'm done, for real thistime.
Charles Island is a place wherehistory, legend and nature
converge in fascinating andsometimes frightening ways.
From its origins as a sacredNative American site to its
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rumored role as a pirate'shiding place for treasure, the
island has been the setting forcountless stories of adventure,
misfortune and the supernatural.
The Roman Catholic retreatadded a further layer of
spirituality and perhapslingering spirit to this already
storied landscape.
Whether or not you believe incurses or ghostly apparitions,
there's no denying the power ofCharles Island legends.
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I just think that it's supercool that it went from pirates
to the church.
It's very confusing.
I mean, I'm not surprised, butI mean, you know, charles Island
, it's an island and it offersan opportunity to step into a
different world.
It's not too far from land, butI can only imagine when you're
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on that, on that piece of land,how far away you must feel.
You know, yeah, I mean, but Iwould totally go you would have
to fuck up.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean I fucked up and I've gone out on the water.
I mean I used to love going andgoing fishing.
I mean I'm from the land of tenthousand lakes, right you live
there I live there, lived therebut and they were gorgeous and
they were beautiful and I wouldget out on the boat and I would
go fishing where I had my littlecabin.
There was actually a littleIsland and people had houses out
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there.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's my story.
I love your story.
It was a.
It was a sweet little story.
I'm going to look at CharlesIsland differently.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Now I'm going to be like really you drive, I want to
look this time just to see if Ican see anything.
Usually drive, yeah, well, wetake time, so like, but like,
why have questions do you?
Do you think that there's likethe spirit of captain kid that
I've seen too many pirates ofthe caribbean?
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I think?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't know.
I think you're right.
I don't know.
I think that.
Yeah, I think that water holdsa lot of energy.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, I mean so it's not.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
it's not very far-fetched and it's very
undisturbed.
So I think that it's definitelypossible that you have a lot of
different spirits from a lot ofdifferent realms, from a lot of
different times that are there,and it starts with the Native
Americans.
It always starts with theNative Americans.
They really leave their mark.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'd like to take Amy Allen out there.
Tell me what you hear only if Itake amy bruny out.
Okay, you take bruny, I'll takeallen, okay, so um last
question yeah, is the buildingstill out there?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know.
We never see a building, sonext time we're gonna take her
fucking.
But no, maybe after this we'llgo out there and we'll take her
binoculars.
Okay, we'll go try to look.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I probably won't see anything because it's dark,
because that sparked my interest, because I don't ever remember
I've never seen a building there, yeah, so I wonder if it's not
there anymore.
I mean it would hold a retreatfor like the birds and like
animals, obviously now Rightright.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, I would think that nature would have taken it
over, or they knocked it downand just put it back to what it
was.
But there's so many trees thereare.
There are a lot of trees overthere, so you can't really see
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I mean it was like it was a farmstead and they
tried to make it a.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well, the building went up when the church went.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, but like, where did Charles live?
Though, he had to havesomewhere that he lived, he
lived in a damn tent Jesus,didn't it say?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It said he was in a campground.
It said it you didn't listen tome.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I did listen to your story.
But when you say campground,like he could have, you know he
could have made like a littlemakeshift like little cabin.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, that's fucking glamping.
All right, we don't do thataround here.
I get it, I get it All right.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
fine, I liked your story.
Thanks, I want to go snoop nowOkay.
We can someone with a boat togo out there?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
just leave us there, we're not.
No, oh, just a day trip.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, early day trip, boring, but okay all right, I
got a pretty short story for youI have no idea what your
stories are I know, and like Ifelt like I put so much energy
into my next two stories that Ihave for you guys, and then I'm
looking at it, I'm like going,whoa, I don't, I don't have much
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, it's okay, it's quality overquantity, yeah, and, and I
really read, I was, I was intomy reading this week.
Maybe that's why I just Idelved down into everything.
Okay, so this week we're goingto Alaska.
Oh shit, never been.
But I wanted to do somethinglike outside the box, like
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paranormal people don't likethey don't go out to the, you
know.
You don't hear very many storiesfrom Alaska.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You don't.
But there are a lot of moviesand TV shows about Alaska and
they're always fucking scary,except for the proposal.
Um, but you have so manydifferent stories and movies
that yeah, if you haven'twatched what's that one with
jodie foster?
Oh true, detective nightcountry with jodie foster yes,
(34:13):
you guys need to watch it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
it's amazing, it it's really good.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, you can always tell the mark of an exceptional
actor or actress when they areusually a main character, but
they're able to pull off asupporting character and not
steal the show.
It just made me reallyappreciate jodie foster's
talents even more.
(34:37):
Yeah, she really let.
She really let the other actorsshowcase.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, it was good.
Okay, so we're going.
We're going to the coast ofalaska yeah my first thought of
when I was doing this it waslike, okay, well, there's no
mermaids, there's no, nothing,but like, when you think of
things in the water, that wouldbe.
Those are the first couple ofthings that I think of, besides
sharks.
Like, I want to think ofsomething nice, but you know,
(35:02):
you think of mermaids,kind-hearted, beautiful,
half-ish, half-human maidens,right, and then there's the
sirens that entice you, pull youunder.
You know, not so nice, thoseare scary, those are scary, but
like, I'm still intrigued bythem.
Which brings us to third thingthat you could potentially find
in the water, which is acalupali A.
(35:25):
What A calupali A.
Calupali, calupali, calupali,calupali.
Like leak.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Like, you need a leak Calupali, mm-hmm.
Kalupalik.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Like leak, like you need a leak, kalupalik.
Kalupalik, yes, it is native.
We're sticking with the nativestuff here.
Okay, kalupalik.
Yes, so this is the legend ofthe Kalupaliks.
It is a figure that is bothmesmerizing and chilling to
(35:57):
Alaskan ears.
It is a water spirit that isrecognized by the Inuit as a
cryptid called the ChildSnatcher.
That's terrifying, yeah, theInuit describe the Kalupalik as
a snatcher of wayward childrenwho venture too close to the
(36:18):
frigid waters.
The sea-dwelling humanoid, withher uncanny charms specifically
her humming to lure her preyinto her vices and threatening
aura, has an appearance thatdiffers across tales told, but
they are almost alwayscommonalities.
The main difference between itseems to some describe it more
(36:42):
as a male figure, whereas moretimes than not it is told in the
female perspective.
Okay, so they can be male orfemale.
They can be male or femaledepending on you know what
legend you want it to come from.
Okay, and the way that peoplehave described seeing it.
Sure, the physical descriptionof a Kalupali is key to
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understanding its role as achild snatcher.
In the Inuit folklore, as itseerie existence, as a sea spirit
, the mythical figure is oftendescribed as having a vastly
green hue, with her skintypically scaly and slimy to the
touch.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Ew.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Well, she grows, she lives in the water.
She grows, they grow.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
She has a mane of darkled, tangled long hair,
extra more extraordinarily longarms and terrifyingly long
powers oh god, well, yeah,you're in the water.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Your nails are gonna grow fast.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, hot water is that it is said that they have
two flippers.
One is able to admit a shrillsound that paralyzes the victim.
The semi-aquatic form isfurther emphasized by the
presence of fins that sproutfrom the head, neck and torso.
(38:11):
Okay, so they also have theability to alter their
appearance through a techniquewhich is called mind my
pronunciation here, I'm sorrypeople pollutant minute.
They try to trick um.
So they, in essence, can shapeshift if they want to.
But what?
(38:32):
The?
The innuents had found out thatthey're the most vulnerable
when they shapeshift, so theywould try to get the shapeshift
so that they could lower theshore and capture it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So would they shapeshift into something
familiar, or would theyshapeshift into something
innocent, innocent?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Like it could be like a whale or an otter or
something.
See from the sea.
Okay, mostly most of the talesthat I had read about were um
whales and otters.
But yeah, they, they lose a lotof their I'd be dead.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Otters are cute.
I'd be dead, they'd besnatching me I mean it works
both ways, right?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I mean, it's, the cat is weak, it's so you could
essentially kill it, or it couldcome up on you and, you know,
change back into the colopalicand but you're not a child.
So there's, I'm a child atheart, yeah.
So the Kalopalik make theirhome primarily in the frigid
(39:42):
depths of all of the Arcticwaters, along the northern
shores of Alaska, but parts ofCanada as well, so the Canadians
could see it too.
This spirit, the Kalopalvalic,is notorious for taking young
victims into her comica, whichis a type of pouch that the
(40:03):
Inuits would have.
That wasn't uncommon to seefemales with those.
So why not a child smasher,right?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I know exactly what this thing looks like.
You just, I just realized whatyou're talking about.
This thing is terrifying.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Okay, continue so, depending on the narrative, some
say she consumes these childrenfor the innocent energy to
remain immortal, while otherspropose she nurtures them
beneath the sea as if they wereher own offspring.
Nevertheless, it sounds likeHollywood.
(40:41):
Nevertheless, they are never tobe seen again.
Sometimes the Kalupalik willknock under the ice, drawing a
child to a weak part or a holein the ice to steal them away.
So there is a.
It's a tall tale, but it's astory with reason, because a lot
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of the Inuits and other nativeswould use this story to teach
the children about the risk ofgetting too close to the water.
So the tale is a crucial part ofthe indigenous people,
ingrained deeply in their dailylives and serves as a lesson
about respecting nature and theunknown.
There are tales of childrenwillingly being given to the
(41:22):
Kolopalik as well.
One such tale is about agrandmother and her grandson
struggling without food.
The grandmother called upon theKolopalik to come and take him
away, as she was not able tofeed him and he would be better
off.
Yeah, not if the kalopalik washungry.
You got a 50 50 shot, hopefully.
(41:44):
Hopefully it wasn't fat, becauseyou know I mean true, you got a
50 50 shot right.
So once the tribe was able tosuccessfully hunt again, a young
Inuit couple took it uponthemselves to try to retrieve
the child.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
What?
This is not a fucking pawn shoppeople.
The Kalupalik is the childtrafficking pawn shop, so they
were able to track her down,track them down.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
They were able to track the child down tethered to
a piece of seaweed, theKalupali.
They could not escape, so theywould essentially just tie them
to the seaweed.
However, they were not able toretrieve him because the
Kalupali would drag him backunder the waves whenever they
got too close.
So it was kind of like thehorse kind of thing.
(42:35):
Ha ha, here he is.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You can't have him, this kid probably drowned
Chinese water torture, that'swaterboarding.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
They would try to stealthily hide nearby and cut
him loose while the Kalupalikslept.
And they cut him loose and herose once again.
It was a happy story this talehas some versions of the
grandmother giving the child tothe colopalik as a punishment,
while others speak of himbecoming a great hunter after he
(43:06):
was rescued wow, that's nice.
Yeah, well, that version, thatversion's nice that version's
nice, yeah, but yeah, so thatthat's.
I mean, it's like a tall talewith meaning and I don't, I
definitely don't discard thesekind of stories because they
just have so much meaning to thepeople that have them.
(43:28):
I mean, it's just like youcan't, you can't take away
stories and beliefs fromindigenous or natives, because
that's just's their whole livesand it does.
It has a wonderful meaning toit.
Very strong culture, very greatstories, very strong lessons.
Yeah, I mean I've, I've watched, like the what, what is that
show, the alaska out, like youknow, the alaskan, the bush
(43:49):
people, yeah, but there's onewhere she, she's inuit and um
married and taught her husbandhow to live the Inuit way yeah,
and her children, at a veryyoung, like in the Amatug, would
go out hunting with her.
Well, from birth on and they'remaster hunters.
(44:10):
And I was like, oh man, I meanthis thing is like terrifying.
Like I have seen pictures oflike what it would look like, so
I put one.
It's scary as shit.
I mean it's thing is terrifying.
I have seen pictures of what itwould look like, so I put one.
It's scary as shit.
I mean it's got seaweed hangingoff of her hair and she's got
four or five.
She's got a little kid on hersack.
(44:30):
Yeah, there's four or five ofthem that.
I'm looking at and it lookslike she's made solely like,
solely out of like veins, andlike her hands are think of the
worst wicked witch in the world.
And then that's, that's whatshe got, and that, and that's my
story.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
That was good, I like that.
I really like the.
I like the alaskan, the inuitculture.
I like hearing stories likethat.
I don't't like the cold.
Well, not all of Alaska is cold.
I mean, it's not cold.
It's not ice and snow all thetime.
Yeah, in the mountains andstuff.
But it's actually very green andbeautiful Not that I've ever
(45:08):
been there, but you know.
You know, I've seen it on TV.
I've seen things.
Yeah, that's a wrap for anotherepisode of Paranormal Howl Hour
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