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April 23, 2025 • 64 mins

🎙️ Paranormal Lens Podcast – Season 2, Episode 38: Discovering the Doss House 👻🏠

On this week's episode of Paranormal Lens, Jamie Widener and Chad Thomas welcome a special guest—Shawnna Rigsby from the Doss House! Get ready for a fascinating deep dive into one of the most intriguing and haunted locations in the region.

Together, they’ll explore the rich history, unsettling hauntings, and paranormal activity that surrounds the Doss House. From unexplained footsteps to ghostly voices, the team will discuss what makes this location a must-visit for both history buffs and paranormal enthusiasts alike.

Shawnna will also share details about upcoming events, public and private investigation opportunities, and what you need to know if you’re planning your own visit to the Doss House.

🎧 Available the next day on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Audible, and all major streaming platforms

Whether you’re a seasoned ghost hunter or just love a good haunted history, this is an episode you won’t want to miss! 💀🔍

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(00:25):
The. Welcome to the Paranormal Lens
Podcast. My name is Chad Thomas.
That's Jamie Widener over there.We're with Jotnick's Paranormal
and things are busy. Jamie, how how are you?
How have you been? Exactly that busy, you know,

(00:46):
with everything that goes on during the weekend between these
episodes, you know, like life and family and work and all this
stuff. You know, it's like, hey, we're
back again. So, you know, blur, just a blur.
Not going to add into it any more than that.
Just just wow, how's it happen so fast?
It's just crazy. I'm assume it the same for you.
Yeah, exactly. Work has been busy, which is
good. We keep talking about how, you

(01:06):
know, that's a good thing, but lots of hours, lots of overtime,
So. Yeah.
So. Yeah.
And my voice is almost back, so we've got that going for me.
Yay And well. I and I think I think I have to
post this first comment from ourour dear friend David Deramidi.
Happy 100th episode Sir we made.It yeah, that is great and I'm

(01:29):
glad David remembered that because I forgot.
Well. I think, I think last week with
the visit to Tala and you know, all the all the time we got to
spend with Dave, I think we might have said podcast about
6000 times to him, which he knows, he knows, I know he knows
he's, you know, original founderof this group with us, you know,
and the original Co host for 20 episodes or so, you know,

(01:52):
stepped off to do his own gig. But I think the look he gave
every time podcast was mentioned, I was I yeah, yeah,
might overdone it. So, Dave, I'm glad you're here.
So Oh my God, glad you joined us.
So what's your? Favorite episode Sir?

(02:14):
I don't know, there's so many good choices.
How can you pick this one right?Yeah, I I mean we still have to
go back to that one. David did the on O go Pogo to
start it all off. 1st episode. He did a great job with that and
sort of set the set the bar for us.
So Indeed, and I don't think we've ever reached it since.

(02:35):
Never have but but good good intentions, right?
Exactly. So, well, tonight we've got a
special. Episode you like kids, Chad, you
can't pick a favorite. Right, right, right, right,
exactly, right. Yeah.
Well, Jamie, let's get into it tonight.
We've got it. We're for 100th episode.

(02:57):
We've got we're doing something a little different.
We're talking to somebody from aa new venue that we haven't been
to. So I'm excited to learn a little
bit more about this. We're going to talk be talking
about the DOS House, but we're going to start this off the the
group that that works there or runs the place, the venue is, is

(03:18):
Unique Paranormal. So a little bit about Unique
paranormal. They came to life over 20 years
ago with the group's original founder, Holly Cataldo.
Over the next 20 years it becamevery important for her group to
function with love, respect and dignity to spirit, which sounds
very familiar. Holly helped teach and mentor
these important investigation techniques to her daughter

(03:41):
Shawna as she started to become part of Holly's beloved spirit
world. Little did Holly know that no,
but in those moment moments she was shaping her daughter for
what was to come. On September 5th, 2023, the
founder of Unique Paranormal Onebecame part of her beloved
spirit world. In that moment of sadness and

(04:01):
grief is when Unique Paranormal 1.5 came to life.
Shawna was determined to keep her mother's memory and mission
alive. When we were asked so why the
1.5, our response is that we hope to be half of the
investigator and communicator that Holly was.
So Unique Paranormal 1.5 is an extension of Holly and her

(04:22):
mission as an investigator to maintain our memories, stories,
and dignity of every spirit we encounter.
So with that, let's bring on Shawna.
Hey guys, Welcome aboard. Hey, thank you.
What's? That off, babe?
We'll. We'll search it today.

(04:46):
Seemed like the one time we could actually use one of our
sound effects we felt perfect. So welcome, welcome, welcome.
Thank you so much for having me.So Shawna, tell us a little bit
about your group and, and how you got into this.
And you know, you know, you knowthe story about your mom.
I appreciate that. So but but fill us in a little

(05:06):
bit more. Basically mom started, you know,
you like you said, unique paranormal one years and years
and years ago. And I've always said like I was
kind of like the the the pain inthe butt kid who would just tag
along to hang out with her mom, you know, never was much of A
believer. Always thought, you know, my
mom's so full of crap, but I gotto hang out with her right and

(05:30):
go to all these cool places. So that's where it started for
me. And of course, over time, the
inquisition of the things that were happening and, you know,
the evidence that was, you know,come and delight.
And just the way my mom displayed her respect for spirit
and that was the number one thing that she taught all of us

(05:55):
was, you know, respect, dignity.And I think a lot of paranormal
investigators are this way. But just to watch her do that
and be inspired and receive intelligent responses to
validate that this really is, isa real thing.
Hey, Michael's in here. So, yeah.
And so it just proceeded from there.

(06:16):
You know, over the years, I'd gowith her occasionally.
We always went to the GettysburgBattlefield Bash.
That was a big thing for us thatwe did together every year.
And then she had a couple eventswhen she moved up to Cane.
And then, like you said, unfortunately, she had passed
away. And this was basically a way for

(06:38):
me to grief the loss of my mother because these were some
of our greatest memories that wehad together.
And I just decided one day, like, what better way to honor
her through my my grief journey than to continue on with her
group. And so the group now consists of
quite a few close people to my mother.

(06:59):
Her best friend Cheryl is in ourgroup.
My wife, of course, who helped you know me take care of her at
the end stages of her life is the one who actually put in all
the work to make this happen forus.
As far as Unique Paranormal 1 and now the DOS house.
We also have a good friend of mine, Beth, who was like a
daughter to my mom who is also very much active in our group

(07:22):
and her daughter that was like agranddaughter to my mom.
And just along the way, because my mom had a very open door
policy that anybody is always welcome to join us 'cause we
have found that traveling to different places, there's a lot
of people who are intrigued by this paranormal investigating,
but they never knew where to reach out to, to be involved or

(07:44):
how to join up a group or make their own group.
So we, anybody, whoever wants tocome along with us, you come.
It's an open door policy. And that's just how we operate
moving forward. That's, that's great, 'cause I,
when I was, I grew up living in a haunted house, worked in a lot
of theaters, so I had had a lot of experiences, but I had the
same thing, didn't know how to get involved in the group.

(08:06):
And it's all Jamie's fault that I got involved in John and
Nick's but. Invited him to one thing and he
never stopped coming afterwards.So.
It's addictive, just like tattoos.
Now it's just they go hand in hand, right?
Yeah, it's all it takes. It's just, you know, somebody's
got to open the door for you. And I, I really appreciate the
perspective as well because that, that for me was the same

(08:27):
thing too, you know, a lot, lot later in life till I found this
opportunity we have with our team, you know, but always
interested throughout life. And, and similar to Chad, I grew
up in a house that was active and hard to explain what was
going on in it. And, you know, so it, it piqued
my interest from a, a teenager or probably even before that.
But, you know, didn't didn't find the right way to do it all

(08:48):
the way through this and, you know, having somebody open the
door, you know, and here it is many years later and still going
strong and still have no plans to stop anytime soon.
Right well, I think an importantpart of that is it creates a
safe space for people who do have abilities and have
struggled with, you know, seeingthings, hearing things,
communicating with spirits and, you know, 2 each is their own.

(09:10):
Every family is different. You're allowed to believe what
you want to believe, but there'sbeen so many people who have
felt shamed because of these certain situations and you know,
it sends him, sends them to a not so positive place because
they feel like there is something wrong with them.
So that is also important to us is to, you know, create a safe

(09:30):
space for people to feel comfortable, to reach out and
get some support in regards to paranormal.
That's perfect. Yeah, yeah, I I couldn't think,
I couldn't have thought of a better way of saying that.
So thank you of. Course.
So So what next to like what what led you to the DOS house

(09:53):
like? So again, my mother, of course,
she, she was a big dreamer, but her husband traveled a lot for
work. You know, she had finally just
settled her roots in Kane, PA and was actually in the talks of
she always wanted to own a haunted Airbnb.

(10:14):
She wanted to host and make everybody breakfast and help
everybody investigate and all ofthese things.
And she was really starting to try to put the those things in
motion until she got diagnosed, unfortunately.
So my wife Danielle, when my momdid pass, she made it her

(10:36):
personal journey. I guess your personal mission to
find something. I mean, we obviously didn't have
the means to reach a actual haunted Airbnb that was
inhabitable for people to sleep there and take a hot shower and
stuff like that, or literally beable to cook people breakfast
that they would actually enjoy like my mom could.

(10:57):
So we, we started looking for the next best thing and that was
just to find a legitimate true haunted location.
And Danielle just, she kept looking and kept looking and we
would go look at places and we're like, Nope, that's not it.
Nope. And we were just driving through
this town and I was like, oh, that house is creepy.

(11:18):
And we knew it was empty. So she she kept to dig in and
she found out she got a hold of the owner who met us over there
and we she you know, are you interested in selling it?
And hey, you know, and I was like, she was like, I want it.
I and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now, like we need to actually make sure this place is haunted,

(11:41):
right? So, or at least is has a lot of
energy for people to investigateit because that's the purpose of
it. So she's like, OK, I know you're
right. So the current owner allow
agreed to allow us to go inside and investigate.
And mind you, this place was completely hoarded out.
Like it was full of stuff. And it was me and my wife and my

(12:05):
good friend Beth, her husband, who was a complete skeptic, non
believer. Like I'm just coming to hang out
with you guys, kind of who I was20 years ago, right?
So and then my daughter and we get in there and literally like
we're fluffing up garbage bags to to sit so we could have a
clean place to sit and we're like, when should we start?
And literally the night started off with a bang.

(12:27):
So we're that front door that you see right there in the
picture, that part of the structure is the original part
of the structure built in approximately 1810.
And then there's a very old stone built basement underneath
it. And we were setting up in the
living room right inside of thatdoor.
And literally the night started with a bang.
It sounded like like a shotgun went off under our feet and the

(12:51):
floor actually raised up. That's the living room.
The floor actually raised up a little bit.
Everybody was like, what the heck is that?
Like it was so loud. And so Danielle and our friend
Brent, because you know, he's a non believer, they ran around
outside straight into the basement.
This was the only room in the house that had absolutely

(13:13):
nothing in it. Not a storage tote, not a piece
of cloth, like nothing in this space, but every possible space
in the rest of the house had junk stacked everywhere right
there. They checked all of the beams.
They checked the posts. There was no logical reason
scientifically or structurally wise that that should have

(13:36):
happened and it just progressively took off from
there. You know, lots and lots of
intelligent responses with with communicating Evps, R.E.M. pods,
I mean, you name equipment that we have never gotten responses
from in any other location was lighten up like the 4th of July

(13:59):
that night. So it was just confirmation
like, Yep, this is the spot. Mom agrees and we're going for
it, and here we are. That's great.
Yeah. Stacey has come at that
basement, so. It's a special space for sure.
So I'm assuming that until you guys started investigating

(14:21):
there, it had not really been a place that was investigated is
that? What it was, no, it was a
private residence. Prior to us buying it, there was
a family of a Barber that had had lived there for years and
years and years and years. And the last woman that owned it
was actually the barber's daughter.
And she lived there until she could no longer care for herself

(14:43):
and was put into an assisted living facility.
And therefore the house had sat empty for about two years.
I. Was going to ask I saw you in in
the slides, the pictures, there was a Barber pole and then the
chair and another frame. There had to be some some
connection there was at the shopor not.
But oh, wow. Yeah, that that's, well, those
things have all that stuff has, you know, the meaning to

(15:06):
someone, you know, that's that'sall the activity at the shop
happens at the chair, you know, and I I can't speak for for
everybody, but I grew up with a Barber because I'm old, you
know, a barbershop Barber, not not just, you know, a salon at
the mall. And I love that guy.
He was funny, you know, he was cool and and he was just brought

(15:26):
about, you know, he always had ajoke.
He always had the the other guyshanging out there, you know, you
see on the old shows. But it was always fun.
So I have fond memories of a barbershop.
That's really neat. I'm sure others do too.
And maybe that's who's staying. And I think it's amazing that
you got responses on your first night because we've been to so

(15:47):
many place, we've been to several places that you go in
and it sounds weird, but the spirits don't know how to use
the equipment. They don't know how to
communicate. You have to train them, you have
to teach them. But you were getting.
It sounds like you were getting responses and activity.
Right off. And that's probably just because
of the fact before we start every investigation, you know,

(16:09):
like my mom did, we introduce all of ourselves.
We let that spirit know what we're doing there.
We let them know what we have. We let them know that, you know,
these things cannot hurt them, but they are a way for them to
communicate with us. We do that every single time
just to try to establish a base,you know, a baseline for that if
there is any questions or they do feel hesitant or anything

(16:29):
like that. So I think that probably helped.
Plus I, I feel like, like my momknew we were on this journey
trying to So like, in my mind, I'm like, OK, my mom's here and
she's, you know, getting everybody together, hyping
everybody up, like, this is going to be it.
So yeah, that was really cool. And then there was, there was
just a lot of interconnecting things that made us realize that

(16:52):
it was meant to be. Like, prior to moving to where I
am now, I lived in a town calledSaint Mary's.
This the DOS house is on Saint Mary's Road.
I met my wife in Prince Gillitzen State Park and Prince
Gillitzen is buried about 100 yards from the DOS house.
He founded this town recently found out that he was, I'm

(17:17):
sorry, I'm not very educated in this, where he was like sworn in
as a priest, like a you know what I mean, what I'm trying to
say like his, I think you know what I'm saying.
Like when he the date of him officially becoming a priest was
on my birthday, March 18th, withthe interconnecting circle of

(17:38):
all of the lining up. Yeah.
Yeah, there it is. Words, Shawna.
Words. So, yeah, there's a lot of
different interconnecting thingsthat just confirm to us that
this was the right, right choicefor us.
That's. Great.
Yeah. So I didn't.
In case anybody's interested, I did post the history that Shawna

(18:01):
has shared with us on in the, the discussion on the, the
Facebook page for tonight's show.
So you can check that out there.Sharon, do you want to talk
about any of these pictures as we go through the different
rooms? I you know, you said that was
the living room we looked at first.
Yep. And this is the dining room.
So the original, the living roomwas part of the 1812, the
original part of the structure, late 1800s was when the dining

(18:25):
room was built on, which is whatyou're looking at right now, OK.
Then we have. And then this is the Barber
shop, which originally was its own entity.
It wasn't always attached to thehome.
In the mid 1900s when the barber's wife fell, I'll he then
opened, you know, each side the house and the Barber shop and

(18:48):
connected the two, put a ramp infor her to spend the remainder
of her days over there just because it was easier for care.
There was more room, there was running water and all those
sorts of things over there. So that's when everything became
one unit. OK.
Yeah, makes sense. So there's a story behind this

(19:12):
radio. One of our team mates, Amy, she
lives in New Jersey. For some reason, the house
always is telling her that it doesn't like her.
It calls her. Well, you know, we get audibles
of not so nice names. You know it.
There's times that we'll have lots of activity, but as soon as

(19:32):
Amy walks in the room, there's no activity.
For whatever reason, the house does not care for Amy.
And so this was a gift that she brought as a peace offering
trying to get the house to like her.
Needless to say, it didn't work.It did not work.
So in the midst of that, though,we have we got a cool radio.

(19:53):
That is. Yeah, they're they are.
Also it doesn't work because thebetter question but.
It it does not work, maybe if itworked maybe maybe we would.
Like to maybe so there's a, there's a warm hum when they,
when they're working and like the, the tubes warming up and so
forth. It's just, it has such a great
sound. Those, those old radios like
that have such a great sound to them.

(20:15):
Oh, it's fantastic. To look into that to see if we
can, we can get that fixed. Now you're seeing a lot of
things in here. Like you'll notice in a lot of
the pictures, about 80% of what is in the house is original to
the house. These are all things that we
found in the house. We actually found a lot because
like I said, everything was hoarded out.
So we actually did take our timetrying to find things that

(20:36):
actually belonged and you know, would hold some meaning to what
we were trying to do there. So like in the case on the table
behind, there were several of the barbers tools that we found
that was actually his original barbershop mirror that we
actually found tucked away in the basement.
So yeah, I'd like the crosses. Anything that was religiously

(20:59):
sentimental, we left them where they hung.
We didn't touch them. We didn't move.
That's, that's great. It's, it's so nice to to have
the pieces that were part of thehouse because so often families
come in and out and things come and go.
And even even some of the historic places we go to,
they're like they're reproductions because we we

(21:20):
haven't been able to find the stuff that was here.
So they're, they say they're they're add insurance that that,
you know, don't have any relevance to the original
location at all. And it's, you know, because it
may seem like it should be there.
And it's like, well, yeah, not the same.
Well, now and like in hindsight of that though, like because
this is in honor of my mom, we do have quite a few of her items

(21:41):
in the house, like some tables and some furniture along that
site. And then as far as my wife,
because this is a journey for her too, we have, you know, some
of her past loved ones items in there, you know, to kind of
bring this space together for for us.
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah.

(22:02):
Let's see, there's a here. Speaking of original items, so
this this cabinet is full of things that we found in the
House from religious artifacts, things that we found in the
basement, random keys, family photos, I mean, you name it.
If we felt it was of importance,it went into that cabinet.

(22:22):
There's also another story that goes along with this cabinet
along the left side. So Frank the historian, he lives
across the street from the DOS house and he was the barber's
best friend. And he told us a story about
this cabinet that when the DOS is youngest daughter, when she
was probably, I would say I think she was around 5 or 6,

(22:43):
actually pushed DOS and he fell down the stairs and went through
the side of that cabinet. So the left side of that cabinet
has no glass in it. So we we kept that cabinet
tucked back up in there. So yeah, right at the bottom of
those steps. So that was pretty interesting
to learn well. That's, that's cool.

(23:04):
So I'm going to go to the next slide, which I think may may
make Stacey a little uncomfortable, but here we go.
Here it is. Here it is little.
Basement the the stone basementsalways have something or it's we
obviously we live in an area where there's a lot of these,
right, you know, because that's that's how homes were built back

(23:25):
in the day. But it's I I've yet to be to one
that doesn't have something. It's really cool.
And then all the walls are what you said 1810 ish in that window
timeline, OK. Yep.
And then all log, you know, log support beams log, you know,
everything's originally log under there.

(23:45):
That's that's really cool. Yeah, it really is.
It really is. Never mind you the the common
wheel basement a little bit. Yep, there were Timbers like
tree tree trunks holding up parts of the the ceiling.
Well, that was just the norm. That was how the things were
built in this time frame. So.
Yeah. So do you, Shawna, do you have

(24:07):
an experience here? I mean, obviously the first
night experience you had, but doyou have an experience here that
really stands out that you want to share, you want to talk
about? I mean, there's two that come to
mind besides that initial one. Obviously, one is memorable to
me because it involved my motherand there was, we had other team

(24:28):
members from other teams that wehad invited in that night and
they had brought a piece of equipment with them that they
had never, ever gotten a response out of.
And I verbally asked my mother to light that up and immediately
it lit up and it continuously lit up for the rest of the
night. So that was pretty incredible.

(24:49):
The other really weird situationfor me was actually in this
basement. And again, I'm a paranormal
newborn. I'm just learning all of these
things, learning abilities and how to read rooms and situations
and, you know, basic fundamentals of protection and
stuff like that. I was sitting in, we were

(25:10):
sitting in the basement with a friend of mine, Sarah and Jay.
It was their first time visitingthe house and I, I started
feeling like I was underwater, like my vision even felt like I
was underwater, like I wasn't feeling sick.
I wasn't light headed. I wasn't.
And immediately my face got really bright red.
I had to sit down 'cause I felt like I was going to pass out.

(25:33):
And you know, we finished up what we were doing down there
and as soon as I got upstairs and outside, I was completely
fine. So very odd thing to happen to
me personally, but yeah, that was definitely an interesting,
unforgettable experience. Wow, it sounds like it I'm.

(25:55):
Not so sure I want to go in the basement now, never mind.
Now earlier, does the basement, does that only have exterior
access because you said something about people going
outside, going downstairs? So basically how that set up is
the this is the original part ofright below the living room.

(26:15):
So then the dining room is just behind the living room and and
there's another newer basement there.
So there's actually a doorway that goes from the front
basement to the back basement and there is a door there that
leads to the backyard. OK.

(26:39):
Yes, Heather, I agree for sure. Well, we, we just had a road
trip with the Lynches out to Trans Allegheny last week, a
week, well, a week and a half ago now, I guess.
Guys, it's almost still be two weeks on Thursday, so it's
never, it's never too soon to have the next one, that's for
sure. Right.
Absolutely. Oh, yeah.
Amy, you missed it. We already talked about the

(27:03):
radio. So I guess, I guess what I
wanted, what I'd like to ask youand and you know is, and I don't
know how to say this otherwise, so bear with me.
It's going to, it's going to sound like a dumb question, but
you know, you did this, you, youwent in, you went all in, right?

(27:24):
You have this fantastic location.
What are, what are the things you didn't expect as part of
this process? You know, like, is there any
like aha moments for you to say,you know, wow, this was, this is
super cool. Or is there any like, you know,
oh, I don't know, moments, you know, like, 'cause you're,
you're, you're an investigator who owns a haunted location.

(27:47):
So, you know, I think that'd be the coolest thing ever, right?
But it has to have some some some pros and cons to it.
Yeah, there's, there's definitely lots of pros and
cons. The pros, I would say is meeting
a lot of wonderful people, a lotof people who we recently had a

(28:07):
a younger woman from the collegethe next town over who again,
want loved this stuff but had nowhere to go and experience it.
And we had an open public event at the house one night.
She saw the post online and she came over and, you know, had an
awesome, awesome time. And like I said, I've met so
many wonderful, amazing people. Hindsight to that is that not

(28:33):
everybody is in this for all of the right reasons.
And again, to each is their own.There are certain people that
are looking for certain things, if you know what I mean.
And if they are not finding or feeling that what they're
specifically looking for is not at a location, they're in and

(28:54):
out in no time. And that's OK.
Everybody's allowed to to do what they want to.
But that's not, that's not what we're the environment we're
trying to create. So we just, and there's times
that you go in there and there'sminimal activity and there's
times you go in there, there's crazy activity.
So but you always get something,you always get something.

(29:16):
So to me, that's a win win all the way across the board.
And maybe we've just been fortunate enough that we have
yet to have anybody in there that's had a bad experience.
So we've we've had some very disrespectful people.
But again, you can't control that.
You just have to maybe learn a little bit better how to read
people. And I'm working on that.

(29:37):
We, we say this all the time. You know, there's, there is A,
and, and bear with me on this because I'm not trying to go 2
sideways, but we, we talk about the difference between a ghost
hunter and a paranormal investigator, you know, and we,
we at our team, I believe you'llfeel the same.
We consider ourselves investigators.
We want to understand, you know,what's going on at the place.
They're all take away the thingsthat could be paranormal first
for an activity that, you know, when it happens, like if

(29:58):
equipment's going off, what elsecould it be?
Remove the stuff that's normal. And what you have left is
paranormal, you know, and, and the ghost hunter is there for
the fun, the flash, you know, the scare, even, you know, and
the jump scare even for more. So, you know, and that's the,
you know, we, we live in a soundbite world now.
So, you know, that's what we want to see.
We want to have our, our YouTubemoment or whatever service of

(30:21):
choice moment, you know, to, to be able to put it out to social
media. So I, I, and there is this,
there's a difference between thetwo And I don't this, I don't
have a problem with any buddy who wants to do either way.
You just have to know that you're going into it, what your
style is. But, you know, sitting, sitting
in a quiet, setting me quiet fora while is really a key to
finding out stuff about a location, you know, and it'll,

(30:43):
it'll present itself to you if you allow it.
And I think that's really kind of the fun, especially at a new
location, you know, you really don't know how much is there
yet. And the sky could be the limit.
That's super cool. And and maybe you said this and
I, I'm sorry if I didn't catch it.
How long have you owned and beenrunning investigations there
now? We just purchased it last summer

(31:03):
and we opened on Halloween. So it's it's, it's new, new.
And it that's, that's another cool thing is like every group
that goes in there, we get more and more information, not just
from the house, but the town in general from energies coming
from all over the place. And then being able to validate
that with factual, you know, articles or documentation and

(31:27):
which is, is really cool. Now, like, don't get me wrong,
there's, there's craziness that happens.
Like you're seeing shadows, you're hearing growls.
Like there's some crazy things that happen in there that people
get. And it's just, it just blows my
mind to be honest with you. I mean, and I tell people, you
know, you can go, you can pay, you know, $1500 to go to a place

(31:47):
that's super awesome and has a lot of energy and get absolutely
nothing, you know, but then go back three months later and
it's, it's crazy. So you know, it all just I, I'm
a firm believer to it. A lot of activity depends on the
energy of the people that are inthere as well.
I I'm still waiting for somebodyto come out of the wall and
introduce themselves to me. So.

(32:09):
Hasn't happened yet. I mean, it would took 15 years
for me to actually to be with somebody who caught a full
bodied apparition on camera. I had it took 15 years.
Like these things don't just happen every day, all day long.
Like you don't just walk into a place and stuff starts getting
thrown off the walls at ya. And there are people that expect

(32:29):
that, but that's not reality, you know?
It would be cool, you know? We we host public events at our
place back at Booby's Brewery inin Mount Joy, PA.
So a little little to the east of you.
And, you know, that's pretty much my part of the spiel, you
know, that we give is like, nothing is on demand, you know,
But if you're attentive and, youknow, interested and, you know,

(32:50):
even not to say you have to be like, you know, hanging on the
edge of your seat where or whatever you're doing, you know,
but you just have to be in the moment and things present
themselves. Yeah.
And I think Sean, like you said,it's the energy that of the
group that what did what they put into it is what they're
going to get back out of it. We've, we've had that at the
brewery some nights where it's like their, their guests are
just like not into it. And it's like we get nothing.

(33:12):
And you know, we sometimes it's a smaller group with a lot of
high energy and it's all the sudden we're getting things left
and right and devices are going off that typically don't go off.
It just it all depends on the people who are there.
Right, I agree. I agree 100%.
Well, that's the fun part too. When you have you know, you

(33:33):
found your people, right? Your team is your, your, they're
your people. And you know, you have that
dynamic. You know, you know each other.
You know what your what your skills, talents and traits are
for investigations, you know, And once you find that and you
click, you know, the rest of it does come kind of easier too.
It's just so cool. I agree.
I mean, don't get me wrong, there's times that we all get on
each other's nerves like nobody's business.

(33:54):
Of course, of course. Yeah.
It's bound to happen when you when you have a close knit
paranormal family like that for sure.
Yeah. You don't have to be blood
relative to be family and that and those moments prove it.
Absolutely, Absolutely. And hey, at the end of the day,
it's all in good fun. We're just there to have fun.

(34:15):
So, so we've got a little bit more information for people who
would like to investigate. I'm not trying to wrap this up
by any means. I'm just going to, I'm going to
share this as well to talk a little bit about your, your,
your pricing and your and what, what it's like to investigate
there. How how to get, how to?
How to schedule or coordinate aswell.

(34:36):
That's probably the most important part.
Sure. So basically Sunday through
Thursday is for you. Get it for 12 hours, You get to
come in at the time of your choice.
And we're pretty flexible, like if you're traveling from a
distance away and you need to hang out for a couple extra
hours to get some rest. We want everybody to be safe
that's offered to you for no charge.

(34:57):
You just let us know ahead of time.
We're happy to let you stay longer if you need to.
So it's the basic necessities ofit is 12 hours Sunday through
Thursday is $250 with $100 deposit to secure and Friday and
Saturday nights is 350 for the same.
You can have one to 8 guests. And we also just recently added

(35:19):
a Group, A group end, that's a new word, a weekend rate.
If you want it for the entire weekend, it will run Friday from
6:00 PM until noon on Sunday forone to 8 guests for a flat fee
of $500. And to book it, you can hit me
up on Facebook Messenger. That's probably one of our

(35:40):
biggest spots. Or just shoot me an e-mail at
the doshouse278@gmail.com. We will eventually have
everything up and running to be able to do that on our website,
but the website's still under construction at the moment.
That sounds familiar. I, I Amy's got a good point.
I thought this was the word you were coming up with there for a

(36:02):
second. So it's that I, I'm going to,
I'm going to show my ignorance here, but it says Groupon still
exists. I haven't heard of it in a
while, so. I assume it's so I think so.
I would think so, yeah. And maybe that's how I'll
advertise it, you know, take thewhole week weekend to cash in
your Groupon. Jamie, you know Jamie, you know

(36:23):
what? Like Loretta's better?
Go ahead, do it. When you sleep over, stay over
one of those. So now we we are fairly close to
Philadelphia. So they're, they ran an ad
campaign a few years ago when itsaid Philly's more fun when you
stay over. And, and the point it's true any

(36:45):
place really is because you, you, you go there for the day
and you have to leave at a certain time because you got
your distance back home. You know, when you stay, you
have the evening and the night, then the next morning, you know,
so it's a win for the place because you, you know, the
economic development of it is you're spending more money
there, you're spending more timethere, you have more experiences
to share with others. You know, so we say the same

(37:06):
about Mount Joy because you know, our place has a hotel
level and there's an Airbnb across the street.
It's all under the properties control.
Yeah. So, you know, it's one of those
things. But every town could be that
way. So Loreto is certainly no
different. It's more fun when you stay
over. I mean, true.
And especially if you say the whole weekend.
Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't think I'd ever

(37:26):
be able to actually sleep in there, but hey, whoever wants to
go first spot you have at it forsure.
So, oh, I'm sorry, I just ever clicked that.
So I'm going to comment this note from Heather.
You really got a lot done in a short period of time.
I assume just going through all the stuff and deciding what to
keep and what to get rid of tooka long time.

(37:47):
I am very intrigued about all ofthe original pieces you have in
the house. This has to contribute to
increased activity. Well, all I'll say is that we
had a, we had a lot of people helping us.
Our group was very supportive that, you know, friends and
family. Everybody was there to help.

(38:08):
Yeah, OK, Amy. I I think that is a double dog
dare? I'm not sure, maybe it kind of
feels like it. Oh, man, yeah.
So we got lucky with that and anything, any anybody ever
questioned it, you know, they're, you know, they would
come to Danielle and I or we would say yes, keep it, no,

(38:29):
pitch it. Like we just had a really a
really great group of people that came to give us a hand.
Triple that's that's significantright there.
Triple SI don't think you can top that.
I know you can't. You can't.
Double stamp. I can top it with a hard no
it's. Fine.

(38:49):
I was. I do have a question for you and
and I haven't been there and I again, so bear with me.
Do you have or have you considered at least maybe if you
don't, having set up the camerasthat are steady and and stable
all the time somewhere in the property?
I have. OK.
So we do have cameras in every room.
We don't, they basically are triggered by motion and sound no

(39:14):
matter what. So we have been able to offer
that to people. It only records in between 30 to
45 second increments. As long as there's somebody in
there moving, talking, whatever,it's going to continuously
record. But then when you leave that
space, the only thing that's going to trigger that camera
again is noise or sound. So we have actually been able to

(39:35):
validate a lot of things that have happened in the house for
people. I don't want to do any type of
live streaming or bring a company in that offers anything
like that because then I, you know, I'm having to pay them and
I'm having to charge people and it just works out good for us
this way. It's something that I like to do
for these, for teams or people that come in and it's, it's, I
do it for nothing. I'm happy to, you know, yes, we

(39:59):
can verify that this actually happened or no, we, we don't see
anything, but it doesn't mean what you got isn't valid.
So there was one incident in particular, that dark hollow
great local friends of ours and a local group had an incident at
the bottom of the staircase. And there were several things
that had happened all at once. So I had, I checked all angles.

(40:20):
So we had the dining room angle,we had the upstairs bedroom
angle, and we had the top of thestairs angle from the cameras.
Because there was a growl, therewas a whole lot of screaming
from the girls at the at the bottom of the stairs, to a light
turning on to a R.E.M. pod blaring, then at on the bed
upstairs which the girls were somuch so screaming they didn't

(40:42):
even realize a R.E.M. pod was going on on the bed upstairs.
And for me to validate that in the moment of being startled by
a noise, nobody accidentally turned the light switch on,
which so that was cool to be able to be like, Yep, you
definitely I definitely hear something on there.
Yes, you're definitely screamingyour heads off.

(41:02):
No, nobody turned the light on. But hey, by the way, the R.E.M.
pod was going off hysterically on on the bed upstairs.
So that that type of thing is really cool to be able to do.
And I don't want to charge people for anything like that.
I got you and Jane. Jamie, I think if you go on
their Facebook page, there are some of these things that have
been shared to their Facebook page.

(41:22):
Yep, got you there. Well, the reason I'm asking, and
you know, this is going to be a dumb thing to say, but
paranormal activity doesn't justhappen at night.
You know, like active activity happens all day long.
And having the camera and what you've done is pretty much what
I would hope you do is have something that's at least there
to capture those at times of theday or night, whatever it is.
You know, the house is inactive,you know, like no one's there

(41:45):
being inactive. You know it's not, it's not no
team there when? There is when there is nobody
there in the system is activated.
We still get alarms all the time.
Gotcha. And that's it helps validate,
you know, the, you know, like you said, the activities that
are there and helps you set the patterns, what they are too that
maybe set some of that that up to figure who it is, what it is.

(42:07):
Oh yeah, and lots of audible unexplained voices to, you know,
your natural beings of a spider,like come coming across the
front of the lens, you know, things like that.
So it's definitely worth having it in there for sure.
What would you say is the most common activity that you get

(42:29):
there? Is there anything that stands
out? No, because it's it's so it's
all over the place. Yeah, it's so all over the
place. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
in the comments could valid likeyou, you get R.E.M. pods, you
get Evps, you see things, you hear things.
I think footsteps upstairs is probably the number one that

(42:52):
everybody 100% says that they hear to shadow figures to.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I would just say all the way across the.
The board asked this method. Yeah, I think Brenda and them,
they posted a video the other day of an unexplained issue that

(43:14):
happened in the kitchen where itwas like a flash of light and
then a beam of a dark looking shadow towards the camera.
And they caught that on their own camera that was set up in
there. Now my camera, nothing didn't
catch anything, but their cameradid so.
But there was also no motion or no sound in that space for my
camera to be recording. It's always about the. 100%.

(43:38):
Yeah. OK.
All right. So you've got some stuff coming
up. We do.
So let's talk about that for a moment.
Let's jump over to that. And this, this, by the way, this
title, I, I just, I did not see it until earlier this afternoon,
so bear with me. But I looked at this and I went,

(44:01):
oh, that's great. Like that moment.
I love the title. So who came up with this?
We actually, a lot of us just threw some ideas out there and
then we took a vote and the votewon it and that it was just as
simple as that. It was a community effort.
So that that's how that was landed.
And again, this was just an event to bring the community

(44:24):
together, which my mother was all about.
I mean, we're all about that too.
But it was supposed to be a little tiny, little craft vendor
little festival. And it has exploded into a, a, a
big festival, call it a festivalbecause we're in a little teeny
tiny town and there's no more room for it to grow any bigger.

(44:46):
So. That's cool.
And the fact that you have free admission is I I think that's
just amazing. So do you need to get tickets or
anything or is it just show up on the day of and?
No. So basically we have, there are
several tickets available for special guests that are coming,
but to attend the event itself and just be part of the day and,

(45:09):
you know, visit and talk to people and get some good food
and that is absolutely free. We do have some special guests
who are offering some special things.
Patty Negri is doing some workshops, some meet and greets,
a gallery, reading and then holding a private investigation

(45:29):
at the house on Saturday night, which we, if I'm fortunate
enough, that is all sold out. We also have let me see Heather
Matarazzo, a Hollywood actress. She starred in Princess Diaries
as Lily. She has been in Scream and
Hostile and just did about I think 8 episodes on Wednesday.

(45:52):
So she's coming in. You can do meet and meet and
greet with her. A photo opportunity, autographed
whatever from her, so she'll be there.
Blue Bodie is coming as well. She's offering some workshops
and a private investigation, I believe on Friday night, just
trying to trying to keep everybody's stuff straight.

(46:12):
And then Santiago Cirillo from The Walking Dead, entrepreneur,
high end nation, spokesperson for mental health awareness,
Amazing, amazing human. He's coming to join us.
He's going to be doing a privateevent with psychic medium
Larissa Rex from the Haunted Mafia.
They're going to hold an event at the Crypt of Prince Kalitzen

(46:34):
and he's also doing some privatemeet and greet stuff that you
can do John Covey, just to name a few.
John Covey, you have Kelly, all,you know, people who are
offering readings. Stacey does Reiki as well as
Beth. I believe Ernie Atwell will be
there with his haunted doll. I mean, the list just goes on.
There's going to be lots and lots of awesome opportunities to

(46:55):
encounter that day. Yeah, definitely several of our
good friends there that that dayand.
We know most of these folks too,so that's that's super cool.
Awesome, that day well spent. Yeah, I think my wife is in
there in the comments so that she said the DOS house is the
only place she's literally ever been spilled away.
From. That place, Yep, that place
actually sent her running out the front door twice and she

(47:20):
doesn't get spooked easily. So that was that was interesting
for sure. It's, it sounds like a great
day. It was.
It's June 21st, correct? Correct.
Yes. And go back to that slide and

(47:40):
where, just for people who don'tknow, where is Loretto?
It is, I would say easiest way to describe it is it is in
between Altoona, PA and Johnstown, PA.
OK, Did that, did that even makesense?
I feel like that didn't even make sense.
Right. In between Altoona and Johnstown

(48:01):
is probably the best way to get you there.
Cool. Yeah, I have.
I have friends who live in Davidsville, so, you know, go up
for the day and then go crash attheir house, you know, so.
Yeah, or you can brave it and stay the night in the DOS house.
That's totally on you. Our our experience with

(48:23):
investigating in mid state PA has been fog on our drive home.
And so Chad's playing a smart role on this one.
We were, we were in Huntington at the Clifton Theater a little
while back and I, I couldn't well, it's dark.
Obviously it's, you know, four in the morning, whatever it is,
and, and couldn't see the lines on the edges of the road and
headlights at the front of the hood.
You couldn't see anything. And, and you know, like it's,

(48:45):
that's miserable, first of all, but also in the same way, I'm
like, when you come across some place, you're like, where am I?
Like you come through a town, you know, and you can have what
is out in the, you know, you're kind of in the mountains and,
and at least in the foothills ofthe Appalachians there.
So, you know, you never know what the weather's going to be.
So it was always and it just adds to the creepiness of your
experience when you get a fog. Sure, and you're like hoping and
praying that you're still on theroad and Oh well if you're not.

(49:10):
I think Chad was hoping, prayingI was still on the road.
I. Was driving definitely there.
Were times I wasn't sure. No, but it's, it is definitely a
great area. There's just a lot of energy up
there with, you know, between everything that's going on up
there. Well, what's cool about Loretto
in itself is it has, there's a basilica there.
And like I said, the tomb of Prince Kalitzin, who founded

(49:32):
this town is right in front of this church, a beautiful,
amazing church. And then at the opposite end of
town, you have Schwab Estates. You know, the man's steel, it
was his estate. His mansion is at the top of the
hill. And they have, it's called the
Mount Assisi Sunken Gardens, absolutely beautiful,
breathtaking statues and fountains and ponds and you name
it. It literally looks like you're

(49:53):
walking into The Secret Garden when you arrive there.
And that's also open to the public.
Just tons and tons of history inthis, this small little town.
It's it's incredible. Definitely sounds like a road
trip, Jamie and. You know, I'm surprised it took
us this long at the 50 minute mark of the episode to get to a
road trip call so. No, we had that earlier if we
did have. That I missed it.
I'm so sorry I missed it then. OK my bad.

(50:17):
I was enthralled in this conversation.
It wasn't reading comments, I guess, but you know, well,
that's it. And you know, you said, you
know, we said earlier like it's more fun when you stay over, you
know, and that's the thing when when you have the opportunity,
there's so many, if you really stop in in, you know, these, I'm
going to say small town. I don't know the size, but you
know, population density, all that.
But you know, there's so much more than it looks like when

(50:38):
you're just passing by, you know, if you could stop at stay
of the day, stay of the night and the next day, you know, you
really get to see all of the wonderful things, all of these
locations out. And I think, you know, I, if I'm
not mistaken, I'm looking at your, your home page now.
There is a Loretto PA historic tours option as well.
Absolutely it's. There.

(50:59):
And that just looks like, you know how you can see all of this
stuff all at once? It really is.
It really is a beautiful little town.
And yeah, like, that's, I'm excited that the weather's
finally getting nice because when people do make the trip up,
they can actually now go over and spend time at the church in
the cemetery. The crypt is incredible.

(51:22):
Like, I've never seen or experienced anything like that.
And like I said, the garden at the other end of town is
breathtaking. I could just walk through there
for hours. And it it's, yeah.
You just have to experience it. I can, I, I can try to sell it
to you all day long, but until you actually experience it

(51:42):
yourself, there's no way for me to describe it to you.
It's absolutely. Yeah, I'll definitely bring my
camera and and spend the day wandering around or two days
wandering around. All right, well, the Lynches are
reserving Airbnb already, so we're we're done.
Let's just make it happen so well.

(52:02):
We talked about this last week on our Tala wrap up episode.
But you know, we, we stayed withBurt and Heather, Chad and I, we
all had an Airbnb together. They, you know, they're, they
found a place that was like 4 minutes from Tala, which was
fantastic at the end of the night.
But, you know, normally we are coming into places and, and
you're not, you're not so far. That wouldn't be a drive in,

(52:23):
drive out for us. You know, we are at Lancaster
County. So, you know, but we never get
to stay with each other. We, if we do stay over, we're in
hotel rooms and we're all separated, you know, and it was
nice just to have that camaraderie of, of, you know,
hanging out with people who are doing what you're doing and
hang, you know, spending the time, which was really, really
cool. So I recommend it and you know,

(52:44):
just take over, spend the time. Yeah, and if you get an Airbnb,
make sure you find somebody who you're staying with who cooks a
mean breakfast. That wouldn't be me.
It wouldn't be me. But I think it was, it was
probably technically lunch by the time we got got going with.
A brunch. It was a brunch, yeah.
Brunch is a better word, right? Yeah.

(53:05):
But but yeah, thank you, Bert. We really appreciated that it.
Was. Spot on the day.
So let's let's let's do it over again in Loretto.
So I mean, we're it's hard to believe we've been talking
almost an hour already, isn't itJamie?
It just. Works how it works.
It seems like a few minutes, butI I did pull some contact

(53:27):
information for you, for your group.
I'm going to share that. Is there anything else?
I did not get your web page. I'm sorry, do you?
If you wanted to tell us what that is or share it in the
comments, that'd be great. It's just the DOS house.
I think it's the DOS House of Loretto slash PA.
And like I said, it's still justkind of under construction.

(53:48):
I mean, there's some basic general information on there,
but it's not 100% ready to go. So if you need, the best way is
to just reach out to us through e-mail or Facebook, OK?
I'm going to put the the websiteon in the comments here for you,

(54:10):
OK? OK.
You were close. It's the doshouse-pa.com.
OK, perfect. See.
Look at you. Look at Jamie B and Techie
today. See if it actually work.
It worked. There.
It is. Nice.

(54:32):
Every once in a while, you know the sun shines on a dog's butt.
Right. Now, flying squirrel in a nut.
Whatever we want to say here, so.
See, I'm to the point that I hadthose issues with my camera.
I don't want I don't want to touch anything to mess.
Anything else, it's fair. It's fair.
So nothing started smoking here yet, so I guess I'm OK.

(54:53):
But usually that's what happens to me too.
Something doesn't work after. Yeah.
Yeah, Google, as Bird said, Google is your friend.
So very true. All right, well, we should
probably get things wrapped up. So, Shauna, it was great to have

(55:15):
you on tonight. I, I, you know, definitely a
place that I think Jamie and I both want to to come visit, as
well as a lot of our team and friends.
Absolutely. We'd love to have you guys.
So this, this is the part where we normally would say, how about
a standard certificate? So whatever you, whatever you

(55:37):
want to say it's, it's your, it's yours.
For me, yeah. Oh, talk about putting me on the
spot, huh? I know.
No, I mean, hey, just if you're free this June 21st, come out
and hang out with us. It's absolutely free.
It's for the whole family. We're going to have lots of
vendors and you know, people whoare making stuff will have a

(55:58):
kids corner for, for your littleones, lots of yummy food.
And we'd just love to bring everybody together and have a
good time. And you know, if you want to
investigate the Dos house, we should definitely check that out
while the weather's weather's nice, but even when the
weather's not nice, we have heat, so it's all good.
It's such a plus, such a. Plus, because we've been to

(56:19):
places that that do not have heat and it's they're great to
investigate, but sometimes it gets really cold.
It does and well, and you know, it's, it was important to us,
you know, having a place like this, putting the things in
there that were super important to us, going to places like free
coffee, free unlimited coffee, like we were like, Yep, that's

(56:40):
coming in here. Things in, in the bathroom
facilities that women need, you know what I mean?
Like and having water and drinksand snacks.
If if you need some and heat there you have it.
So that was that was super important to us and people
really do appreciate it. So that.
Well, I'm glad to hear that you have that and, and yeah,
definitely, definitely worth theeffort and thank you for for

(57:04):
doing that and. So absolutely, so thanks first
and foremost for for keeping this place there and, and what
it was. You know, a lot of times these
older properties, you know, they, they start to look a
little rough, they start to get past.
It's, you know, it, it's prime location on the street, you
know, like, and, and somebody says, let's just take it down
and build something else, you know, and, and keeping it

(57:27):
keeping for like a better way ofsaying on the tax rolls, you
know, that stuff that's economicdevelopment for your community
to having folks come in, you know, they spend some money
elsewhere in the, in the town and, you know, you had more fun
when they sleep over, you know, kind of thing.
There's a lot of economic drivers and I I that comes from
my background. I'm sorry, not to, you know, but
the, the whole part of this is you kept this place open and

(57:47):
actively available. And, and that means so much
more, you know, than than, you know, you know, and, and, you
know, we're all, as a paranormalpeople, We're all a part of a
community, you know, and we're always looking to support each
other. And I, I think we should be
anyway, Hopefully we all are looking to support each other
and, you know, get to places that that, you know, we haven't

(58:08):
been to before. And, you know, once you go to a
place, you want to go back and we talked about it earlier.
You know, Chad and I have a few places that I can't.
We're losing track how many times we've been there, you
know, just love it. And I'd, I'd like to think this
will be one of those places for us.
So we'll see you soon. Well, thank you.
Thank you for saying that. That means a lot.
Appreciate that. Yeah.
Well, thank you. So of course, well, Sean, I'm

(58:31):
going to say thank you for coming on tonight with us.
We're going to cover a couple ofour wrap up things, but if you
want to hang out in the green room, we'll we'll talk to you in
a few minutes. Absolutely.
Thank you so much for having me.I really appreciate it.
You bet. Thank you.
Thanks. All right, All right, Jamie, you
want to take these? Yeah, I have my glasses on.
I can actually read stuff this week.

(58:51):
So upcoming episodes next week, I'm going to tackle the Portland
Tunnels, AKA the Shanghai Tunnels out in Portland, OR
coming up the week after on May 6th, we're going to have Landon
Legend Paranormal, that'll be Stacy and Gary Smith and Stacy
was here with us in the the audience tonight.
It's good to see her. We'll have a full conversation
with them about what they're up to with Landon Legend and then

(59:12):
leading into our pair of Unity event with them on the 17th of
May as well. The 13th of May, I'm going to
take on the Morris Jumel Mansionin New York City.
And then that we're going to getto that, that old episode on the
Divot box that we didn't get to and when Chad's voice went out a
few weeks ago. So I'm excited for that one too,
because I was I was ready for itthen.
Now I'm even more ready now. So some cool stuff coming up on

(59:34):
the the near future. And then we'll have more stuff
in a couple weeks for you, for us investigations, we are at the
brewery on the 26th. That's this weekend back in
Mount Joy, PA and May 17th, as Imentioned, the paranormal
Paraunity event with Landon Legend Paranormal.
And then on June 28th we're off to an away game for us out to

(59:57):
the Haunted Crest and SanatoriumParacon there at the prison and
facility out in mid state. So we won't be too far off from
the Das house and more dates arecoming, you know, once we get
past these next couple, so we'llshare them soon.
Dates are always available on the The Movies Brewery website
as well and our Facebook page ifyou want to look at something

(01:00:19):
further out or message us. I'll give you that information.
I'll do that in a second. As I mentioned the the Co
joining event we have coming up with Landon legend is going to
be May 17th. It's always nice to and this is
something we should have said with Sean as well, but it's
always nice to investigate with others that you don't get to
work with very often. And that's kind of the point of

(01:00:41):
our Para Unity event coming up and in May 17th is, you know,
the you learn from others. You know, as much as you, you
can watch things on TVI guess, you know, a lot of things that
are out there. But you know, you really, until
you're in the moment with somebody, you really get
sometimes the uniqueness of us as individuals.
And, and I I really highly advise getting out and meeting

(01:01:02):
new people, you know, and, and just sharing and learning.
That's what it should all be about.
That's what we're going to do that night.
Yeah, then the the away game, asI mentioned out at the Crescent
facility is going to be a horrorand Paracon, Chad and I will be
there with members of our team for the day.

(01:01:22):
There is an opportunity for a ticketed event to investigate
the facility at night. Later on and during the day you
do have the ability to wander the grounds and and poke into a
lot of the property. Everything's going to be open
and available as well, and thereare lots of different vendors,
lots of different things to see and do while you're there, so
come and join us. And finally.

(01:01:46):
Yeah, the socials, how you foundus tonight, if you're here with
us live and and these these things are live for us.
So, you know, bear with me, but we are here on Facebook and
YouTube tonight. But tomorrow, which will be
Wednesday the 23rd, we're going to be out on Audible, Spotify,
Apple podcast, a few other streaming services.
If you, if you could, please, wereally appreciate feedback.

(01:02:09):
You know, we have a lot of guests with us during the
podcast itself, you know, live events, giving us some, some
stuff to talk through. But if you're out there
somewhere else, you're catching up to this or any other
episodes, feel free to drop us acomment.
Give us some stars. You know, we'd, we'd love to
think we earned five of them, but you know, because there
aren't more than that. But you know, with that, we'll
take whatever you have to offer us.
And, and you know, feedback is always important to us, how

(01:02:29):
we're doing, what we might be able to do for you as far as
things you want to see or hear from us.
You know, certainly we self produce.
So we have the schedule you saw.We can move it around any way.
We need to take a little time todig into whatever you're
offering us to do. And, and if it's your story, we
can have you on as well. We'd love to have guests and
certainly we're never, we're never shy away from that
opportunity. So, and the way is the best way

(01:02:52):
is if you don't want to leave comments or anything on the
streaming services is just shootus an e-mail at
paranormallenspodcast@gmail.com.Chad and I both see that and
we're happy to follow up with you.
We'll be happy to follow up withyou from there and get things
rolling. So I think I got most of it
right. I think you did, Jamie.
Yeah. All right.

(01:03:13):
So yeah, well, we're. Happy 100th one more time.
You look good for your age. Yeah, so, and and I, I don't, I
don't know if you noticed, but we, we hit 30 countries today on
Spotify. I did see that.
Holy cow. Yeah.
And quite a few streams. So we're we're getting there.
So I want to thank all of you for joining us.

(01:03:34):
The people who joined us tonightfor the first time, please come
back. It would be great to have you
with us. Anything else, Jamie?
I don't every Tuesday's at 9 same place that you found us
here. We'll be back and more more fun
stuff. I think the the Portland Tunnels
is going to be a fun episode, really interesting the more I
dig into it. So we'll see how I how it pans

(01:03:55):
out. Very cool.
So all right, all right. Until next time.
On that note, happy 100th again and we will see you next week.
Good night everybody. Good night.
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