September 5, 2024 • 29 mins
Drea leads the episode about taking the victory lap to the end - binding off your project when you're about to finish! She particularly likes two bind off styles, the traditional or the "old reliable" and a bind off she doesn't remember the name for, but creates a nice, finished look. Tina says her preferred bind off depends on the type of project she is working on, as each project has a bind off that makes more sense for what needs to be stretchy or taut. Drea talks about socks and the kitchener stitch. Meg prefers Jenny's Surprisingly Stretchy Bind Off, and also loves to do an i-cord bind off as she likes how it looks. If Jess could get away with it, they would use the traditional bind off for everything. They also have a love hate relationship with tubular bind offs.
We want to remind our listeners that this is a casual knit night format; we are by no means knitting or crochet experts. These are our opinions and preferences only - if you want to learn more about bind off techniques, there are great YouTube channels that discuss and teach these bind offs very well and more in depth.
Find out more about the podcast as well as our cast Meg, Drea, Tina, and Jess at our website pardonmystash.com. Leave us a comment on your thoughts on our episode blog posts, or through our social media accounts!
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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.
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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting within the fiber arts and how awesome
it is. Before we get into this week's topic, what are we working on this week? Jess? I am working on
the Enchantment shawl. Yes, designed by Susanna Icy. And it's in the Fellowship of the Knits book.
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And it's fun because it's beaded. So right now I'm using Critical Hit Die's Rogue in the color
Way Vishka. And I'm also going to be using the Shadow of Aaron gradient when I get to that part.
Right now it's just one and it's fun and I'm already at beads and I need to say I haven't done
beads in a while. Meg? I'm working on the Speranza beanie by Geneva Vasquez. And I'm just doing it
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like quickly just to see how a couple of our colors knit up. I'm using two colors from
Critical Hit Die's. It's a soon to be released collection at the Fiber Fest. And their color
ways are Candy Apple and Meet Me at the Marketplace. And I'm knitting them in Barbarian.
You working on anything, Tina? My life. Very good. Fair. I appreciate that. No problem. You're
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doing great. Thanks. Drea? I am still working on the French Can Can by Mademoiselle C. I'm using
Madeline Tosh DK in colorway homings Nevada. And the border is what I'm working on now and that is
Madeline Tosh Vintage in Rieberbund. And I know last time I said I was going to cast on a pair of
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socks, but I couldn't bring myself to do so. I'm a one project kind of gal. Good for you. Thank you.
I am proud of myself for sticking to it. And one day I will be done. But this border is taking
a very long time. So after three years of podcasting, we are almost to our 100th episode.
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Yeah, that. Hold on. I got a whole lot of it. And it's really hard to believe that
we are already at almost 100 episodes. That is bonkers to me. One more time.
Not only that we have been doing this, but y'all have been listening to us and having a real good time doing it.
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For the audience. Thank you. And you know, we love talking to you. I love that you love us talking to you.
We're all having a really good time up in Pardon Moustache. And we do want to thank you for joining us.
In honor of our 100th episode, we are going to be giving away two spectacular prizes,
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courtesy of Jimmy Beans Wool to celebrate. Yeah.
Who doesn't like free stuff? I mean, I really do enjoy free stuff.
And it's really nice stuff. It is really nice stuff. Do you want me to tell you what it's going to be?
So we're going to have two prizes, five skeins of Yarn Citizen Harmony fingering yarn in driftwood
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and a Deli-Q Makers Mesh tote bag. And it is teal and it is beautiful.
Tina is going to be very jealous of whoever gets it. Oh, I already touched it.
I touched it and it has, it's very nice. You also touched the yarn and it has alpaca in it.
Yes, fair warning. It was less fun for you. It was less fun for me.
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But I will do anything for this podcast. But it is into the night. No, okay, I'm done.
But it is fabulous yarn. Like it's beautiful. Very pretty.
It's gorgeous. And so if you are interested in winning either of these two fabulous prizes,
you can head to our website, Partymistache.com and you can fill out an entry form.
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So we are going to be announcing two lucky winners on our 100th episode. On our homepage,
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So this week we got a submission on one of our Instagram posts from a listener.
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And they had recently listened to our cast on episode, which was a very good episode.
So if you haven't listened to it, go head on over there. I also hosted that one.
Did you really? Oh, wow.
When was that episode? That was a while ago.
I was going to say, I don't remember that episode. I think it was season one, if not two.
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It had to be. It was a while ago. But here I am back for more,
because guess what we're going to talk about this week? What is it, Drea?
We're going to talk about bind offs. Wow.
I'm very excited. Wow.
We got to do, I don't know. Start talking like that.
I love that you did the wow like Patrick does. Wow.
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Oh my God, I can't. I can't.
But I'm very excited because I love bind offs. And I say that I love bind offs, but really I like
too. I was going to say, who doesn't love being done with the project?
I love being done with the project. Victory lap to the end.
It is the victory lap. Although it is the worst victory lap when you think about it,
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because bind offs take forever. See, I like the bind off because it doesn't
matter how big the project is. I never get tired of doing it because it's a repetitive stitch.
And the project keeps getting smaller and smaller. Sometimes I had a bind off that had bobbles in it.
Okay. That sounds like a horrific. It comes out really, really pretty.
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I bet it looks gorgeous. Beautiful.
It's not going to be a bind off that I'm going to use.
You had one that had short rows? Yeah, it made a nifty ruffle, but it was short rows.
So yeah, Dre, sometimes it's just do a decrease and you're done.
Okay. Well, let me rephrase that. I do the same repetitive stitch over and over
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because do you know what? I don't typically venture away from my go-to bind off.
Fair. Like, I know that everybody is very familiar
with the traditional bind off. And I'm just saying it's a traditional bind off
because I don't know what else to call it. Standard, classic, classic.
Yeah. Where you knit to and you pass one over.
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What is it? I'm not going to say it right. The old reliable.
The problem with old reliable though is that it is like taut.
There is no stretch. There is no give. It's fine for a shawl. Or not a shawl, a scarf.
It's good for a scarf. But anything you're going to want to stretch, it is not the ones.
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Don't do it for sleeves. I found that out the hard way.
Yeah, don't do that either. Don't do it for sleeves.
I actually don't mind it for certain shawls because it keeps the shape.
That's fair. Right. If it's depending on where it is on the shawl, it's fine.
But if it's anything that you're going to want to like stretch over your head or your don't do it.
You'll just be sadly holding it like this going, no.
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Yeah. So fairly speaking, I have not used that bind off since I learned my other old reliable.
Which is? I don't know what it's called.
Okay. I don't know what it's called. I found it on a website. I really enjoyed it.
That sounds really specific. Everybody go to that website.
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Hang on. Look for that bind off.
So I found it on Spruce Crafts. Okay. And basically it like it says it's a stretchy
bind off. I would say that it's got like medium stretch. It's not super stretchy.
It's not like a Jenny's, you know, it's it holds its shape pretty well, but it's also not going to
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like run away from you. And what you do is you knit the first two stitches through the back loops
and then you put the stitch back on the left needle and you keep doing that. And it creates
like this like really nice flat, almost like a chain stitch on the end. And I love how clean
it looks. And like I said, it's like mid stretch, not super stretchy, but it gives it like a really
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clean look. Gotcha. And that one's my favorite. I use that one a lot too, but mainly for things
like like shawls or cowls or things that don't, again, don't have a lot of stretch. Again, you
don't want to necessarily use that one for like a lot of garments, depending on how stretchy you
need them. But I like that one too. If you want to get real crazy, you can do the same thing
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only with a purl two together. I'm not going to do that. Some people like to purl, man. I'm just
saying I am not one of them. Sometimes it's easier. I am also not one of them, but I have done the
purl two together and it is. What's the benefit of it over the knit two together? I think it depends
on which side. Is it just the side or does it allow for stretchiness? Yeah, it's still mild.
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Is it the same? No, but I mean, so it's the same stretch as the knit one. But it's just your purl
side. So function wise, it's the same. It's just more about like. Looks wise, I want to say it puts
the stitches on the other side because of the way you're doing it. But yeah, could be.
Yeah, could be interesting. So I'm not going to do it, but it could be interesting.
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There is that one. Some people are out there like purl and purl and like madmen and.
I'm never going to yuck somebody else's yum, but that one is definitely not for me. I actually,
I prefer purling now that I knit Portuguese style. I do prefer purling. That one might be for you.
It's less of a movement. Oh, that's because you're bringing it from the top. Yeah. From the front.
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So I don't, I don't mind purling. But that being said, I also don't mind knitting. I think both
movements are actually fine. Like I felt like when I did it English style, I definitely disliked
purl. Like cause it was such an extra step. Yes. Um, but I feel with Portuguese, it's,
it's just a different kind of flick. It's not really a much of a difference, but.
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Do you have a preferred bind off, Tina? Um, it definitely depends on what I'm doing.
So I don't use the basic standard, whatever we want to call it, the old reliable very often,
but I definitely actually like using it for shawls, especially if I'm making a triangular shawl.
I like, um, the edge that it finishes off on, cause you're typically ending on the longest edge.
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So, um, I, I did that actually on my, uh, the stormy sky shawl and, um, I definitely did that,
uh, a standard bind off on that. I just, I didn't need it to like, I felt like if I started to do
Jenny's and I felt like it was too much, like it was warping the edge and I didn't like it. So I
went back and I did a standard and I liked it better. It kept it form and it's form, you know,
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if I'm doing garments, it also depends, uh, what part of the garment I'm doing. I don't mind doing,
uh, Jenny's surprisingly stretchy bind off on edges of the bottom of a garment. I don't like
doing it on a tight collar. I feel like it doesn't give you enough stretch. So Jenny's is stretchy,
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right? But I would actually put Jenny's to a medium ish, maybe a little bit more stretch.
And I'll tell you why. Cause for me, tubular is the stretchiest bind off and cast on by far.
Cause I find I've made crew neck sweaters before with the tubular and I'm able to get my fat head
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through a very small hole. Okay. Fairly speaking, you do have a, no, I actually do. I say I'm joking,
but like, I actually do have a larger than normal head. I typically need to do the adult large when
I'm doing a beanie. Um, and so for me, um, if I'm doing like a crew neck or a, uh, uh, neckline
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that is going to be tighter, um, I prefer tubular, um, because it, one, the edge looks amazing.
Especially if it's going to be ribbing, cause it just looks so seamless and pretty to it. Super,
super stretchy, way stretchier than Jenny's. Um, Jenny does have a limit at a point. So,
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and I've encountered that, especially with tight necklines and sleeves, cause I also have an issue
with sleeves because my triceps are so large. So if it's a short sleeve garment, I can't do Jenny's
because it doesn't fit around my triceps. Um, I have a lot of fat and extra skin, so I can't like,
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even with a normal t-shirt, the abdomen might be fine, but the sleeves are always, I have to adjust
to be slightly bigger. Um, so I end up doing, if it's, if it's going to be a short sleeve,
it's going to be tubular again. And, um, but yeah, usually the end of the garment though,
if it's not form fitting, um, I'm okay with Jenny's down there, but sometimes I'll do tubular again,
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because I want it to match. That's fair. That's fair. If there's ribbing at the bottom and at the
neckline and at the sleeves, like I'll want them all with the same bind off. Cause then I'll look
cohesive. And I've done other ones I've done. Um, I've done a cable bind off. I've done a, um,
How did you like the cable bind off?
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That's, I find that to be pretty firm. I don't find that to be stretchy either,
but sometimes I like the way it looks over a standard.
Is it, did you find it to be difficult or complicated?
Not really. No, but I do, I do like how that looks over, depending on what, again, depending
on what I'm working at, I think the, the thing to take away from me is I have go-tos for situations.
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I can't say I use the same bind off for everything. It's definitely situational and like what I'm
working on and like what body part it might be on.
You know, I wish I could say the same, but I use the same one for everything. Unless it's socks.
Unless it's socks, in which case I will have some variety, but that, that one that I mentioned at
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the start there, that, that is, that is it.
Well with socks, you have to deal with a kitchener stitch at the end of if you're doing top down,
right? Yes. And I love the kitchener stitch. I know a lot of people don't feel the same, but,
and I'm not going to lie. I never remember how to do it. And I always have to look up how to do it.
I feel like tubular is the same. Yeah. It's very, in terms of like, you never remember how to do it.
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If you haven't done it in a while, but once you look at it and you do a couple, yeah, you know,
it's, it's just like riding a bike. I feel like when I learned tubular, kitchener came to me easier.
Not that it's similar in steps, but it's a similar kind of motion.
Yes. So I found it easier to handle kitchen, like kitchener didn't seem so scary to me once I figured
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out tubular. So I was like, okay, I can, I can kitchener some stitches.
Huh? Huh? Huh? No. Okay. I'll just, I'll see myself.
Meg, what about you?
I'm pretty much married to doing the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
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Jenny's in most cases. Um, sometimes I will do the two together through the back loop and
knit one over them. Um, those two are, are pretty much my go-tos. If it is something
really like, if I'm just whipping off like a cowl or something like that, sometimes I'll just do the,
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the old traditional one just because it's easy. Um, I tend to be a person that looks it up, even if
I think I know exactly how I've done it. I can't tell you how many times I've done Jenny's, um,
cast off. Um, and I still look it up every time, um, because I don't trust myself to remember it.
Um, I, I'm working, this is kind of not, not quite off the topic, but a little bit.
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I'm working on a sweater now and I've cast the Yoke on three times in the last month and a half.
And I've done the German short rows three times and I have looked up the German short rows
every time. Um, even though I know how to do them, it's really frustrating sometimes.
But how much more frustrating would it be if you got half way through knowing that you did the whole
thing wrong? And that's why I do it. Yeah. It's just, it's like that extra insurance. Like I know
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I'm probably going to remember how to do this. Like within a minute of watching this tutorial,
I'm going to do it anyway. I still look up how to make one right, make one left. Oh no, same.
Actually, I don't anymore. And it is only because of a project. I think it's the one I'm working on
right now, Ocean Stones, because I have had to make one right and left so many times that I,
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I feel like I will remember that forever. Um, except I know I won't. I'll finish that project.
And then three months later, I'll be like, God, what is make one, right? But right now,
while I'm in it, I'm, I got it down for now. I'm the same. The only other one that I have done,
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um, that I actually have liked, um, but it's again, very specific to project is the I-cord bind off.
I love that because it is never done an I-cord bind off. It's honestly a lot easier than it
may look or sound. Um, it has a beautiful finish, but it's a finish without a lot of give
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because I-cords are not meant to be stretchy. They're meant to be solid. So doing an I-cord
on like the end of a garment is going to give it a lot of structure. It's not going to give it a lot
of stretch. So it is, is really good on like a really structured shawl, um, or maybe a sweater
where you don't have to like a, maybe a more free flowing sweater where you don't have to worry
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about the right where you're not going to have to worry about stretching it over you. Um, but it's
mainly there for decorative purposes, not so much for the stretch. They're fun though. I do like
I-cords. I, this is a total side note. I got an I-cord machine. I love that thing. I have seen the,
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I got Jess one. I'm like, I can make I-cords all day. Just crank it out. And then I'm like,
I don't need this I-cord. It's great for like, if you have a pattern for like a purse or something
and you need like a draw string or, um, straps, it's great for that. Like a hoodie or something.
Yeah. If you're like, I don't want to sit there and crank out like six feet of I-cord because
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that's tedious. Those things are good. I've done them by hand several times, but, um, you know,
there's nothing more satisfying than doing it on the machine and like knowing how long it takes
me to do an I-cord by hand. I'm just like, Oh, look at it coming out. Well, I would think,
especially if you're like, like a hoodie, for example, and you're done with the sweater and
you're like, you know what I would love to do right now? Five solid feet of manual. That sounds
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like a blast. No thanks. Hard pass. Every time I see an I-cord, I'm like, I just don't have it in
me. Oh, see, I love how they come out, but I like doing them for all of maybe six inches. And then
I'm like, and I'm good. Yeah. And then I will put the project down forever. I've been doing this for
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a thousand years. 2000 years later. Yeah. What about you, Jess? If I had a choice, if I could,
because I'm lazy, I would love to just use the classic bind off. I love the classic bind off.
It's just, it goes so fast. It's so mindless. It goes, it's great. I like what it looks like too.
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I use it like 1% of the time and it makes me mad because I'm always like, can I use it? No,
no, I can't, but I want to. I also really love and really hate the tubular bind off.
It looks fantastic. I hate doing it because you have to make sure you have the right amount of
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tail to do it. And if you're doing a larger project, it's getting caught in itself the
whole time you're doing it. And while you're like untying where it catches, you forget if you were
like on the pearl stitch part or the knit stitch part. She's speaking from very recent experience.
I've just had to live this whole thing with her like in the last week and a half. And you're
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standing there staring at it. Like, are you a twisted stitch from the perler from the knit?
What did I do? It's awful, but it looks great. So if I highly recommend it, but yeah, no,
if I have to drop a tubular bind off like halfway through, I am writing a post it and putting it on
there. Cause otherwise I don't remember. I put a note in my phone. So for I have you done a tubular
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bind off? No, I was going to say from somebody that hasn't maybe both of us that have not done
this. Why is it so hard to remember where you're at in the middle of the spine? Does it look weird?
Cause I'm not understanding any of this. So basically what, what you do is when you're on
the knit, you always your left hand needle, you've got, you're working with two stitches at a time,
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but you work on the stitch furthest from the needle point first. Okay. And then you go through
the one closest to the needle point and you only pull off the one closest to the needle point.
Now, when you do that, the stitch twists. So if you're not paying attention, well, you have to go
like the way you're going in and out is also a certain way. Yeah. So if you're starting off a
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knit, you have to go through the back and in between the two stitches to start it and then back
through and through the back. And if you're going a purl wise, you don't have to do that. The purl
wise is actually easier, but if you do it wrong, it pulls off the stitch when you take it off.
So I can see why that would be. So sometimes you're like doing it. And then all of a sudden
you're like, Oh, that fell off. And you can tell if you're paying attention and realize where you
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are. I like one, they do look different when they're pulled from, if you just did a purl or
if you just did knit, but if you weren't looking at it to start with, you're going to look at that
and be like, I don't know if that's a knit or a purl. That makes sense. Cause there's not a good
way to, you can't even really pull it up and be like, Oh yeah, it's because of the way it's binding
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off. It doesn't really tell you which direction you were initially doing it unless you're looking
close. So, so yeah, so that, that one, again, it's beautiful, but if you lose track of where you're
at, you just kind of hope and pray. There is for tubular, if anyone is like interested in looking
in an easy way to do tubular, cause there's actually a bunch of different ways you can do it.
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There is a way to do a tubular cast on in the round without a hook or waste yarn. And there's
also a way to do the bind off in an easy way. And that's all brought to you by a YouTuber who
goes by the name of 10 rows a day. And I really, every time I have to do tubular anything, like
look her up because it's really, she uses very contrasted like yarn and background so you can
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see like what's going on. And I really like the way that she, the cast on in particular, I really
like not having a provisional cast on and like just, just do it. I hate provisional cast on so
much. I will actively go out of my way to not do provisional cast on. I actively go out of my way.
Yeah. And I know we're not talking about cast ons, but still, and I will, and I will say this,
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I have not done it any other way besides the way she taught me. Um, only because when I was looking
for it, I saw everybody going like with this and you need all these tools. And then I saw hers and
it's like without all the tools. And I was like, Ooh, that that's what I want. Yes. That one. Um,
as far as the other ones I've used, I have used the elastic bind off, which is a little less
stretchy than Jenny's. Um, it basically doesn't use the yarn over, but otherwise that's actually
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a pretty decent easy one that gives you a decent amount of stretch. Um, not super crazy. Um, and
then I have you, like, I know I didn't mind using a cabled bind off, but off the top of my head,
I can't remember which project I use it on. I just remember when I did it, I had to look it up once
and I'm like, Oh, okay. This isn't that bad. Um, I'd have to look it up again because I do not remember,
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but I remember when I was doing it, I was like, okay, it actually finished pretty fast. So I did
like the cabled one. Um, I had to use a three needle one once and I hate it. I actually don't mind
a three needle bind off. I have done a three needle bind off once. It was not my favorite.
I just, I, I've made a lot of bags fair. When you make bags,
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knitted bags tend to have one of these somewhere. Um, and I just, I don't know, I get excited. I'm
like, Ooh. And then I like, I know exactly which side is which maybe that's maybe when you're
going at, you're like, you know, you got the one you're working with, you got the two that you're
like, I'm ready to go. Let's go. Let's go. I don't mind the way it looks like the way it looks.
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It looks good. It does look good. I'll, I'll give it that. It looks good. I just don't like doing it.
I don't like the underside where it has like a cliff. Yeah. Like when you're done with it.
Oh yeah. Um, it has that kind of backside to it. And then if you're not doing it the right way that
you could have put the backside on the wrong side. And then you're like, crap, I got to bind it off
the other way. And then I've done that before. Um, but no, I, I don't know. I get really satisfied
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with the, I don't know. I'm like, yeah, we're going to like knit these two together with two needles.
Sorry. I get excited. Hey, you know, listen, if you're listening to this and you're not excited
about bind offs, you were in the wrong category. You know, it's a great bind off hat bind offs,
where you just like thread through and pull it. That's a good one. Or you decrease down to like
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eight stitches and then you just yank it. That is my least favorite. Is it really? It is. But
you like Kitchener. I love Kitchener. See that's funny. I'm not going to lie. Most of my hats have
a Kitchener stitch at the top. You know what? I totally get why from someone who has designed
many a hat. I, uh, the, you know, pull and call it. It doesn't, if you're, especially with super
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bulky, it just doesn't look thin. You just have this hole. Yeah. Sometimes I don't like the hole.
Sometimes you can't pull it all the way closed and it like leaves like a slight hole. And I'm like,
so that I hate. Yeah. And I will actually deliberately get down to as few stitches as
possible before I do the pull through just to try to get rid of that. Which if, if it's not like
certain patterns, if they're written like just the wrong way, can create this really awkward,
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like nipple looking thing on the top of your hat. So I find in those situations, a Kitchener is a
really good way to kind of clean it up and just get it done. Yep. Most of my hats have a Kitchener.
I believe that especially since you like Kitchener. I do like Kitchener. Yeah. My absolute favorite
find off is crochet. You would one stitch, cut it, pull it through. You done. Then you just got to
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weave in the end. I cannot speak for Tunisian crochet because sometimes there's a lot of stitches
on that, but for just your single, single loop crochet. Yeah. Shout out to the crocheters that
had to wait 35 minutes. There isn't an extra day of binding off associated with the crochet.
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At the end of my project, I'm done.
That must be really nice. That's nice. Just pull it through. So these are some of the
bind offs that we like to use. We are just humble yarn enthusiasts and I would not consider us
experts in any sense of the term other than, you know, we have been doing this for a long time,
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but I would not apply that term to us. So if these are some bind offs that you would like to check
out, we will add a list to our blog for the ones that we have talked about today. So you can try
out our favorites on your projects. And if you guys have a bind off that you prefer to use,
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make sure you find us on Instagram and comment on our episode post because we want to know.
And that is it for this week. For additional content and opportunities to connect with the
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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.
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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting within the fiber arts and how awesome
it is. Before we get into this week's topic, what are we working on this week? Jess? I am working on
the Enchantment shawl. Yes, designed by Susanna Icy. And it's in the Fellowship of the Knits book.
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And it's fun because it's beaded. So right now I'm using Critical Hit Die's Rogue in the color
Way Vishka. And I'm also going to be using the Shadow of Aaron gradient when I get to that part.
Right now it's just one and it's fun and I'm already at beads and I need to say I haven't done
beads in a while. Meg? I'm working on the Speranza beanie by Geneva Vasquez. And I'm just doing it
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like quickly just to see how a couple of our colors knit up. I'm using two colors from
Critical Hit Die's. It's a soon to be released collection at the Fiber Fest. And their color
ways are Candy Apple and Meet Me at the Marketplace. And I'm knitting them in Barbarian.
You working on anything, Tina? My life. Very good. Fair. I appreciate that. No problem. You're
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doing great. Thanks. Drea? I am still working on the French Can Can by Mademoiselle C. I'm using
Madeline Tosh DK in colorway homings Nevada. And the border is what I'm working on now and that is
Madeline Tosh Vintage in Rieberbund. And I know last time I said I was going to cast on a pair of
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socks, but I couldn't bring myself to do so. I'm a one project kind of gal. Good for you. Thank you.
I am proud of myself for sticking to it. And one day I will be done. But this border is taking
a very long time. So after three years of podcasting, we are almost to our 100th episode.
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Yeah, that. Hold on. I got a whole lot of it. And it's really hard to believe that
we are already at almost 100 episodes. That is bonkers to me. One more time.
Not only that we have been doing this, but y'all have been listening to us and having a real good time doing it.
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For the audience. Thank you. And you know, we love talking to you. I love that you love us talking to you.
We're all having a really good time up in Pardon Moustache. And we do want to thank you for joining us.
In honor of our 100th episode, we are going to be giving away two spectacular prizes,
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courtesy of Jimmy Beans Wool to celebrate. Yeah.
Who doesn't like free stuff? I mean, I really do enjoy free stuff.
And it's really nice stuff. It is really nice stuff. Do you want me to tell you what it's going to be?
So we're going to have two prizes, five skeins of Yarn Citizen Harmony fingering yarn in driftwood
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and a Deli-Q Makers Mesh tote bag. And it is teal and it is beautiful.
Tina is going to be very jealous of whoever gets it. Oh, I already touched it.
I touched it and it has, it's very nice. You also touched the yarn and it has alpaca in it.
Yes, fair warning. It was less fun for you. It was less fun for me.
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But I will do anything for this podcast. But it is into the night. No, okay, I'm done.
But it is fabulous yarn. Like it's beautiful. Very pretty.
It's gorgeous. And so if you are interested in winning either of these two fabulous prizes,
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So we are going to be announcing two lucky winners on our 100th episode. On our homepage,
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current projects, patterns and yarns, head on over to our website at Partymistache.com.
So this week we got a submission on one of our Instagram posts from a listener.
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And they had recently listened to our cast on episode, which was a very good episode.
So if you haven't listened to it, go head on over there. I also hosted that one.
Did you really? Oh, wow.
When was that episode? That was a while ago.
I was going to say, I don't remember that episode. I think it was season one, if not two.
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It had to be. It was a while ago. But here I am back for more,
because guess what we're going to talk about this week? What is it, Drea?
We're going to talk about bind offs. Wow.
I'm very excited. Wow.
We got to do, I don't know. Start talking like that.
I love that you did the wow like Patrick does. Wow.
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Oh my God, I can't. I can't.
But I'm very excited because I love bind offs. And I say that I love bind offs, but really I like
too. I was going to say, who doesn't love being done with the project?
I love being done with the project. Victory lap to the end.
It is the victory lap. Although it is the worst victory lap when you think about it,
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because bind offs take forever. See, I like the bind off because it doesn't
matter how big the project is. I never get tired of doing it because it's a repetitive stitch.
And the project keeps getting smaller and smaller. Sometimes I had a bind off that had bobbles in it.
Okay. That sounds like a horrific. It comes out really, really pretty.
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I bet it looks gorgeous. Beautiful.
It's not going to be a bind off that I'm going to use.
You had one that had short rows? Yeah, it made a nifty ruffle, but it was short rows.
So yeah, Dre, sometimes it's just do a decrease and you're done.
Okay. Well, let me rephrase that. I do the same repetitive stitch over and over
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because do you know what? I don't typically venture away from my go-to bind off.
Fair. Like, I know that everybody is very familiar
with the traditional bind off. And I'm just saying it's a traditional bind off
because I don't know what else to call it. Standard, classic, classic.
Yeah. Where you knit to and you pass one over.
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What is it? I'm not going to say it right. The old reliable.
The problem with old reliable though is that it is like taut.
There is no stretch. There is no give. It's fine for a shawl. Or not a shawl, a scarf.
It's good for a scarf. But anything you're going to want to stretch, it is not the ones.
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Don't do it for sleeves. I found that out the hard way.
Yeah, don't do that either. Don't do it for sleeves.
I actually don't mind it for certain shawls because it keeps the shape.
That's fair. Right. If it's depending on where it is on the shawl, it's fine.
But if it's anything that you're going to want to like stretch over your head or your don't do it.
You'll just be sadly holding it like this going, no.
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Yeah. So fairly speaking, I have not used that bind off since I learned my other old reliable.
Which is? I don't know what it's called.
Okay. I don't know what it's called. I found it on a website. I really enjoyed it.
That sounds really specific. Everybody go to that website.
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Hang on. Look for that bind off.
So I found it on Spruce Crafts. Okay. And basically it like it says it's a stretchy
bind off. I would say that it's got like medium stretch. It's not super stretchy.
It's not like a Jenny's, you know, it's it holds its shape pretty well, but it's also not going to
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like run away from you. And what you do is you knit the first two stitches through the back loops
and then you put the stitch back on the left needle and you keep doing that. And it creates
like this like really nice flat, almost like a chain stitch on the end. And I love how clean
it looks. And like I said, it's like mid stretch, not super stretchy, but it gives it like a really
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clean look. Gotcha. And that one's my favorite. I use that one a lot too, but mainly for things
like like shawls or cowls or things that don't, again, don't have a lot of stretch. Again, you
don't want to necessarily use that one for like a lot of garments, depending on how stretchy you
need them. But I like that one too. If you want to get real crazy, you can do the same thing
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only with a purl two together. I'm not going to do that. Some people like to purl, man. I'm just
saying I am not one of them. Sometimes it's easier. I am also not one of them, but I have done the
purl two together and it is. What's the benefit of it over the knit two together? I think it depends
on which side. Is it just the side or does it allow for stretchiness? Yeah, it's still mild.
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Is it the same? No, but I mean, so it's the same stretch as the knit one. But it's just your purl
side. So function wise, it's the same. It's just more about like. Looks wise, I want to say it puts
the stitches on the other side because of the way you're doing it. But yeah, could be.
Yeah, could be interesting. So I'm not going to do it, but it could be interesting.
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There is that one. Some people are out there like purl and purl and like madmen and.
I'm never going to yuck somebody else's yum, but that one is definitely not for me. I actually,
I prefer purling now that I knit Portuguese style. I do prefer purling. That one might be for you.
It's less of a movement. Oh, that's because you're bringing it from the top. Yeah. From the front.
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So I don't, I don't mind purling. But that being said, I also don't mind knitting. I think both
movements are actually fine. Like I felt like when I did it English style, I definitely disliked
purl. Like cause it was such an extra step. Yes. Um, but I feel with Portuguese, it's,
it's just a different kind of flick. It's not really a much of a difference, but.
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Do you have a preferred bind off, Tina? Um, it definitely depends on what I'm doing.
So I don't use the basic standard, whatever we want to call it, the old reliable very often,
but I definitely actually like using it for shawls, especially if I'm making a triangular shawl.
I like, um, the edge that it finishes off on, cause you're typically ending on the longest edge.
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So, um, I, I did that actually on my, uh, the stormy sky shawl and, um, I definitely did that,
uh, a standard bind off on that. I just, I didn't need it to like, I felt like if I started to do
Jenny's and I felt like it was too much, like it was warping the edge and I didn't like it. So I
went back and I did a standard and I liked it better. It kept it form and it's form, you know,
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if I'm doing garments, it also depends, uh, what part of the garment I'm doing. I don't mind doing,
uh, Jenny's surprisingly stretchy bind off on edges of the bottom of a garment. I don't like
doing it on a tight collar. I feel like it doesn't give you enough stretch. So Jenny's is stretchy,
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right? But I would actually put Jenny's to a medium ish, maybe a little bit more stretch.
And I'll tell you why. Cause for me, tubular is the stretchiest bind off and cast on by far.
Cause I find I've made crew neck sweaters before with the tubular and I'm able to get my fat head
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through a very small hole. Okay. Fairly speaking, you do have a, no, I actually do. I say I'm joking,
but like, I actually do have a larger than normal head. I typically need to do the adult large when
I'm doing a beanie. Um, and so for me, um, if I'm doing like a crew neck or a, uh, uh, neckline
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that is going to be tighter, um, I prefer tubular, um, because it, one, the edge looks amazing.
Especially if it's going to be ribbing, cause it just looks so seamless and pretty to it. Super,
super stretchy, way stretchier than Jenny's. Um, Jenny does have a limit at a point. So,
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and I've encountered that, especially with tight necklines and sleeves, cause I also have an issue
with sleeves because my triceps are so large. So if it's a short sleeve garment, I can't do Jenny's
because it doesn't fit around my triceps. Um, I have a lot of fat and extra skin, so I can't like,
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even with a normal t-shirt, the abdomen might be fine, but the sleeves are always, I have to adjust
to be slightly bigger. Um, so I end up doing, if it's, if it's going to be a short sleeve,
it's going to be tubular again. And, um, but yeah, usually the end of the garment though,
if it's not form fitting, um, I'm okay with Jenny's down there, but sometimes I'll do tubular again,
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because I want it to match. That's fair. That's fair. If there's ribbing at the bottom and at the
neckline and at the sleeves, like I'll want them all with the same bind off. Cause then I'll look
cohesive. And I've done other ones I've done. Um, I've done a cable bind off. I've done a, um,
How did you like the cable bind off?
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That's, I find that to be pretty firm. I don't find that to be stretchy either,
but sometimes I like the way it looks over a standard.
Is it, did you find it to be difficult or complicated?
Not really. No, but I do, I do like how that looks over, depending on what, again, depending
on what I'm working at, I think the, the thing to take away from me is I have go-tos for situations.
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I can't say I use the same bind off for everything. It's definitely situational and like what I'm
working on and like what body part it might be on.
You know, I wish I could say the same, but I use the same one for everything. Unless it's socks.
Unless it's socks, in which case I will have some variety, but that, that one that I mentioned at
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the start there, that, that is, that is it.
Well with socks, you have to deal with a kitchener stitch at the end of if you're doing top down,
right? Yes. And I love the kitchener stitch. I know a lot of people don't feel the same, but,
and I'm not going to lie. I never remember how to do it. And I always have to look up how to do it.
I feel like tubular is the same. Yeah. It's very, in terms of like, you never remember how to do it.
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If you haven't done it in a while, but once you look at it and you do a couple, yeah, you know,
it's, it's just like riding a bike. I feel like when I learned tubular, kitchener came to me easier.
Not that it's similar in steps, but it's a similar kind of motion.
Yes. So I found it easier to handle kitchen, like kitchener didn't seem so scary to me once I figured
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out tubular. So I was like, okay, I can, I can kitchener some stitches.
Huh? Huh? Huh? No. Okay. I'll just, I'll see myself.
Meg, what about you?
I'm pretty much married to doing the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
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Jenny's in most cases. Um, sometimes I will do the two together through the back loop and
knit one over them. Um, those two are, are pretty much my go-tos. If it is something
really like, if I'm just whipping off like a cowl or something like that, sometimes I'll just do the,
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the old traditional one just because it's easy. Um, I tend to be a person that looks it up, even if
I think I know exactly how I've done it. I can't tell you how many times I've done Jenny's, um,
cast off. Um, and I still look it up every time, um, because I don't trust myself to remember it.
Um, I, I'm working, this is kind of not, not quite off the topic, but a little bit.
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I'm working on a sweater now and I've cast the Yoke on three times in the last month and a half.
And I've done the German short rows three times and I have looked up the German short rows
every time. Um, even though I know how to do them, it's really frustrating sometimes.
But how much more frustrating would it be if you got half way through knowing that you did the whole
thing wrong? And that's why I do it. Yeah. It's just, it's like that extra insurance. Like I know
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I'm probably going to remember how to do this. Like within a minute of watching this tutorial,
I'm going to do it anyway. I still look up how to make one right, make one left. Oh no, same.
Actually, I don't anymore. And it is only because of a project. I think it's the one I'm working on
right now, Ocean Stones, because I have had to make one right and left so many times that I,
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I feel like I will remember that forever. Um, except I know I won't. I'll finish that project.
And then three months later, I'll be like, God, what is make one, right? But right now,
while I'm in it, I'm, I got it down for now. I'm the same. The only other one that I have done,
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um, that I actually have liked, um, but it's again, very specific to project is the I-cord bind off.
I love that because it is never done an I-cord bind off. It's honestly a lot easier than it
may look or sound. Um, it has a beautiful finish, but it's a finish without a lot of give
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because I-cords are not meant to be stretchy. They're meant to be solid. So doing an I-cord
on like the end of a garment is going to give it a lot of structure. It's not going to give it a lot
of stretch. So it is, is really good on like a really structured shawl, um, or maybe a sweater
where you don't have to like a, maybe a more free flowing sweater where you don't have to worry
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about the right where you're not going to have to worry about stretching it over you. Um, but it's
mainly there for decorative purposes, not so much for the stretch. They're fun though. I do like
I-cords. I, this is a total side note. I got an I-cord machine. I love that thing. I have seen the,
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I got Jess one. I'm like, I can make I-cords all day. Just crank it out. And then I'm like,
I don't need this I-cord. It's great for like, if you have a pattern for like a purse or something
and you need like a draw string or, um, straps, it's great for that. Like a hoodie or something.
Yeah. If you're like, I don't want to sit there and crank out like six feet of I-cord because
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that's tedious. Those things are good. I've done them by hand several times, but, um, you know,
there's nothing more satisfying than doing it on the machine and like knowing how long it takes
me to do an I-cord by hand. I'm just like, Oh, look at it coming out. Well, I would think,
especially if you're like, like a hoodie, for example, and you're done with the sweater and
you're like, you know what I would love to do right now? Five solid feet of manual. That sounds
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like a blast. No thanks. Hard pass. Every time I see an I-cord, I'm like, I just don't have it in
me. Oh, see, I love how they come out, but I like doing them for all of maybe six inches. And then
I'm like, and I'm good. Yeah. And then I will put the project down forever. I've been doing this for
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a thousand years. 2000 years later. Yeah. What about you, Jess? If I had a choice, if I could,
because I'm lazy, I would love to just use the classic bind off. I love the classic bind off.
It's just, it goes so fast. It's so mindless. It goes, it's great. I like what it looks like too.
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I use it like 1% of the time and it makes me mad because I'm always like, can I use it? No,
no, I can't, but I want to. I also really love and really hate the tubular bind off.
It looks fantastic. I hate doing it because you have to make sure you have the right amount of
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tail to do it. And if you're doing a larger project, it's getting caught in itself the
whole time you're doing it. And while you're like untying where it catches, you forget if you were
like on the pearl stitch part or the knit stitch part. She's speaking from very recent experience.
I've just had to live this whole thing with her like in the last week and a half. And you're
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standing there staring at it. Like, are you a twisted stitch from the perler from the knit?
What did I do? It's awful, but it looks great. So if I highly recommend it, but yeah, no,
if I have to drop a tubular bind off like halfway through, I am writing a post it and putting it on
there. Cause otherwise I don't remember. I put a note in my phone. So for I have you done a tubular
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bind off? No, I was going to say from somebody that hasn't maybe both of us that have not done
this. Why is it so hard to remember where you're at in the middle of the spine? Does it look weird?
Cause I'm not understanding any of this. So basically what, what you do is when you're on
the knit, you always your left hand needle, you've got, you're working with two stitches at a time,
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but you work on the stitch furthest from the needle point first. Okay. And then you go through
the one closest to the needle point and you only pull off the one closest to the needle point.
Now, when you do that, the stitch twists. So if you're not paying attention, well, you have to go
like the way you're going in and out is also a certain way. Yeah. So if you're starting off a
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knit, you have to go through the back and in between the two stitches to start it and then back
through and through the back. And if you're going a purl wise, you don't have to do that. The purl
wise is actually easier, but if you do it wrong, it pulls off the stitch when you take it off.
So I can see why that would be. So sometimes you're like doing it. And then all of a sudden
you're like, Oh, that fell off. And you can tell if you're paying attention and realize where you
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are. I like one, they do look different when they're pulled from, if you just did a purl or
if you just did knit, but if you weren't looking at it to start with, you're going to look at that
and be like, I don't know if that's a knit or a purl. That makes sense. Cause there's not a good
way to, you can't even really pull it up and be like, Oh yeah, it's because of the way it's binding
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off. It doesn't really tell you which direction you were initially doing it unless you're looking
close. So, so yeah, so that, that one, again, it's beautiful, but if you lose track of where you're
at, you just kind of hope and pray. There is for tubular, if anyone is like interested in looking
in an easy way to do tubular, cause there's actually a bunch of different ways you can do it.
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There is a way to do a tubular cast on in the round without a hook or waste yarn. And there's
also a way to do the bind off in an easy way. And that's all brought to you by a YouTuber who
goes by the name of 10 rows a day. And I really, every time I have to do tubular anything, like
look her up because it's really, she uses very contrasted like yarn and background so you can
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see like what's going on. And I really like the way that she, the cast on in particular, I really
like not having a provisional cast on and like just, just do it. I hate provisional cast on so
much. I will actively go out of my way to not do provisional cast on. I actively go out of my way.
Yeah. And I know we're not talking about cast ons, but still, and I will, and I will say this,
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I have not done it any other way besides the way she taught me. Um, only because when I was looking
for it, I saw everybody going like with this and you need all these tools. And then I saw hers and
it's like without all the tools. And I was like, Ooh, that that's what I want. Yes. That one. Um,
as far as the other ones I've used, I have used the elastic bind off, which is a little less
stretchy than Jenny's. Um, it basically doesn't use the yarn over, but otherwise that's actually
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a pretty decent easy one that gives you a decent amount of stretch. Um, not super crazy. Um, and
then I have you, like, I know I didn't mind using a cabled bind off, but off the top of my head,
I can't remember which project I use it on. I just remember when I did it, I had to look it up once
and I'm like, Oh, okay. This isn't that bad. Um, I'd have to look it up again because I do not remember,
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but I remember when I was doing it, I was like, okay, it actually finished pretty fast. So I did
like the cabled one. Um, I had to use a three needle one once and I hate it. I actually don't mind
a three needle bind off. I have done a three needle bind off once. It was not my favorite.
I just, I, I've made a lot of bags fair. When you make bags,
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knitted bags tend to have one of these somewhere. Um, and I just, I don't know, I get excited. I'm
like, Ooh. And then I like, I know exactly which side is which maybe that's maybe when you're
going at, you're like, you know, you got the one you're working with, you got the two that you're
like, I'm ready to go. Let's go. Let's go. I don't mind the way it looks like the way it looks.
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It looks good. It does look good. I'll, I'll give it that. It looks good. I just don't like doing it.
I don't like the underside where it has like a cliff. Yeah. Like when you're done with it.
Oh yeah. Um, it has that kind of backside to it. And then if you're not doing it the right way that
you could have put the backside on the wrong side. And then you're like, crap, I got to bind it off
the other way. And then I've done that before. Um, but no, I, I don't know. I get really satisfied
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with the, I don't know. I'm like, yeah, we're going to like knit these two together with two needles.
Sorry. I get excited. Hey, you know, listen, if you're listening to this and you're not excited
about bind offs, you were in the wrong category. You know, it's a great bind off hat bind offs,
where you just like thread through and pull it. That's a good one. Or you decrease down to like
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eight stitches and then you just yank it. That is my least favorite. Is it really? It is. But
you like Kitchener. I love Kitchener. See that's funny. I'm not going to lie. Most of my hats have
a Kitchener stitch at the top. You know what? I totally get why from someone who has designed
many a hat. I, uh, the, you know, pull and call it. It doesn't, if you're, especially with super
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bulky, it just doesn't look thin. You just have this hole. Yeah. Sometimes I don't like the hole.
Sometimes you can't pull it all the way closed and it like leaves like a slight hole. And I'm like,
so that I hate. Yeah. And I will actually deliberately get down to as few stitches as
possible before I do the pull through just to try to get rid of that. Which if, if it's not like
certain patterns, if they're written like just the wrong way, can create this really awkward,
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like nipple looking thing on the top of your hat. So I find in those situations, a Kitchener is a
really good way to kind of clean it up and just get it done. Yep. Most of my hats have a Kitchener.
I believe that especially since you like Kitchener. I do like Kitchener. Yeah. My absolute favorite
find off is crochet. You would one stitch, cut it, pull it through. You done. Then you just got to
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weave in the end. I cannot speak for Tunisian crochet because sometimes there's a lot of stitches
on that, but for just your single, single loop crochet. Yeah. Shout out to the crocheters that
had to wait 35 minutes. There isn't an extra day of binding off associated with the crochet.
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At the end of my project, I'm done.
That must be really nice. That's nice. Just pull it through. So these are some of the
bind offs that we like to use. We are just humble yarn enthusiasts and I would not consider us
experts in any sense of the term other than, you know, we have been doing this for a long time,
(28:54):
but I would not apply that term to us. So if these are some bind offs that you would like to check
out, we will add a list to our blog for the ones that we have talked about today. So you can try
out our favorites on your projects. And if you guys have a bind off that you prefer to use,
(29:16):
make sure you find us on Instagram and comment on our episode post because we want to know.
And that is it for this week. For additional content and opportunities to connect with the
cast, check out our website at partinmystash.com. Be sure to tune in next time for more laughs,
(29:36):
love and llamas at part of my stash.
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