November 12, 2024 • 35 mins
Could Elon Musk be the next supervillain in a saga of election conspiracies? We explore the tantalizing theories that link Musk to U.S. elections, Republicans' alleged misconduct since 2016, and the curious events of 2020's election night. Speculation swirls around the potential for Musk's Starlink systems to be tied to vote tabulators in 2024, casting him in a shadowy light. As we question the narratives, a UK firm's video adds another layer to the enigma, painting Musk as a multifaceted player in the electoral game.
Shifting gears, we scrutinize Musk's controversial takeover of Twitter and its rippling effects on misinformation. With banned accounts reappearing and a false tweet about Paul Pelosi's attack, the platform's role in political chaos comes under fire. We share our frustrations with election campaigns' organizational hurdles, grappling with misinformation and the reemergence of far-right figures like Andrew Tate. The discussion highlights the turbulence of political manipulation and the security gaps within voting systems that keep us vigilant.
The episode wraps with a focus on empowering voters to safeguard their electoral influence. We spotlight practical measures, such as advocating for hand counts and leveraging resources like vote.org, to ensure every voice is heard. As we brace for a potential second Trump term, we dissect demographic shifts and the fears looming over various communities. Emphasizing civic engagement, we encourage resilience and awareness amid evolving local and national political dynamics, while contemplating how leadership decisions could shape our future.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
in terms of the conspiracy theories floating
around about the electionpotentially being stolen.
Like I'm not one to super dillydally and conspiracy theories
on the podcast, I mean it's justa pointless exercise for me
largely and that's not to saythat I don't believe republicans
cheated in the election.
I believe they believeRepublicans cheated in the
(00:26):
election.
I believe they've been cheatingin the election since 2016, for
that matter, Like we've talkedabout that endlessly.
All of the things they did in2016 to try and steal the
election and where they weresuccessful in winning the
electoral college.
All the things they did in 2020where they were unsuccessful in
trying to steal the election,which resulted in a failed coup
which resulted in a successfulcoup which eventually resulted
(00:49):
in a successful coup.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This is part of the problem with not holding these
people responsible at the timeand by responsible I'm not
talking specifically aboutJanuary 6th, I'm talking
specifically about 2016 becauseno one paid any real
consequences, even though RobertMueller and I had numerous
people.
They felt comfortable in theidea that they could cheat in
(01:16):
2020 and 2024, and it worked outfor them.
But we do have comments fromElon Musk during his appearance
on the Joe Rogan podcast that,again not to inflame any
conspiracy theories out there,but in all likelihood make you
have some questions at the veryleast, if not some potential
(01:41):
serious concerns.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It was interesting because the beginning of the
night no one knew what was gonnahappen.
So you're watching the firstresults roll in and there's like
this weird thing and then Trumpgets way ahead but you're like
you don't want to like it toohopeful how far ahead he's a
head by 100 points.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That seems like a lot yeah, you're like what is it in
?
Some channels are like, andthen every channels kind of
different yeah, they'redifferent numbers.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was getting a different number off my Apple
News Update, then I was gettingoff of CNN and then I was
texting people like Tulsi and JDVance.
I was getting a different up.
Apparently, elon created an appand he knew who won four hours
before the results.
So as the results were comingin four hours before they called
(02:31):
it, dana White told me Elon waslike I'm leaving, it's over,
donald won.
He just fucking somehow oranother.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I'm going to go back to my pod and evaporate.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I don't know what he's getting, where he's pulling
his data from, but he had, like, the most accurate data in
terms of the rural states.
Hadn't put the results in yet,but yet Trump was ahead in these
states.
Kamala is never going to winthose states, so tabulated that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, apparently, over the course of the 2024
election, elon Starlink systemswere connected to a number of
vote tabulators Now, not theactual vote systems themselves,
but the machines that do thecounting in order to, I suppose,
increase their Internetconnectivity.
Now, again, like the not to besuper conspiratorial here, but
(03:23):
these are the people who, in2020, said the satellites were
flipping votes.
You can take from that what youwant.
I'm, I'm.
You know.
If you do possibly have anytheories about any impact that
having those tabulators beingconnected to the internet could
have on the counting of actualvotes, feel free to muse over
there.
Those, uh, you know, I'm notnecessarily saying that elon
(03:46):
must directly interfered in thecounting of actual votes.
Feel free to muse over those.
You know, I'm not necessarilysaying that Elon Musk directly
interfered in the counting ofvotes.
Anything is possible.
But you have Joe Rogan theresaying, who just recently had
Elon Musk on his podcast, thatElon had put together an app
that definitively told him thatDonald Trump won the election
hours before it was even called.
So make of that what you will,uh, but that's what happens when
(04:09):
you give you know, a superwealthy uh, formerly apartheid
when you try to make an iron manand you end up with apartheid
baby like control not lex lutherin this case, since we have the
mcu and robert downey jr, whowas formerly iron man, returning
(04:31):
as a as a villain.
This go around.
The analogy would be when youhave iron man, uh and and you
unmask him to reveal dr doom ohdear yep.
But speaking of elon musk andhis involvement in the 2024
election, we have a video clipput together by a uk firm that
(04:53):
lays out all of elon's variousroles in influencing.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Oh yeah, I saw this earlier this is the story of how
the world's richest person, theowner of tesla and x, bought
the global town square, thencorrupted it, before using his
immense wealth to help elect aconvicted felon.
(05:20):
April 14, 2022, elon musk makesan unsolicited offer to buy
Twitter for $44 billion.
He claims the site has becomepolitically skewed and says For
Twitter to deserve public trust,it must be politically neutral.
October 27, the deal goesthrough.
The next evening, a far-rightconspiracy theorist breaks into
the San Francisco home ofDemocrat House Speaker Nancy
(05:41):
Pelosi, intending to kidnap her.
Pelosi is away, but the manattacks her husband, paul,
hitting him repeatedly on thehead with a hammer.
Paul Pelosi escapes with hislife, but requires surgery for a
fractured skull.
While most people take thechance to decry political
violence, the new owner ofTwitter, elon Musk, posts a
tweet sharing an entirely falseclaim that Paul Pelosi was in
fact injured in a drunken fightwith a male prostitute with whom
(06:04):
he was involved.
Musk includes a link to a falseclaim on a website that has a
history of publishing conspiracytheories, including a story
asserting that Hillary Clintonis dead and has been replaced by
a body double.
Musk's post is retweeted 24,000times before he deletes it.
November 18th, musk's Twitterstarts to unlock previously
banned accounts.
Misogynist far-right influencerAndrew Tate was permanently
(06:25):
banned from Twitter in 2017after urging women to quote bear
some responsibility for rape.
Now he's back.
Tate posts.
I've decided to fly to thefailed state of California, walk
into Twitter HQ and tell atElon Musk he's a legend On my
way.
Two months later, tate will bearrested in Romania on suspicion
of human trafficking, rape andforming an organized crime group
(06:46):
.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And it just goes on, and on, and on and on.
We'll post a link to that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I made it less far into the video earlier today
when I watched it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, but we'll post a link to the video.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I just got a thing from that that place I was
supposed to be phone bankingthat never got.
They're like, hey, how was theevent?
Like what the fuck?
Where was the link?
Dude.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, okay.
So yeah, I was supposed to beballot curing.
Yes, to explain in greaterdetail.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Ballot curing.
There are still some undecidedcongressional races for 2024.
And I was told that a lot ofballots have been rejected or
for various reasons and thosevoters have an opportunity to
cure their ballots until acertain date.
I don't know what it is.
(07:39):
I had volunteered for bankingshift today to call people in
California and I don't know.
I just the link just keptrerouting me to the registration
page and it was like wait forinstructions from a state.
I'm like what state?
What state, what instructions?
So I tried.
Maybe this is why we fuckinglost, but I think it was Elon
(08:01):
Musk.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So clearly we need to get our organizational skills
together.
Or it's just me?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I said so many words and states.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
When it comes to doing things as simple as phone
banking to get voters to curetheir ballots.
But yeah, back to Elon Musk.
So that video is I think it'slike almost 10 minutes long.
It's just endless examples ofElon Musk's attempts to
manipulate the American publicinto voting against their best
interests.
And again, so post 2021, youknow.
(08:31):
Again back to feeling theelection stealing, conspiracy
theories.
So back in 2021, post coup.
You know Trump's campaignfought to get access to voting
equipment in Georgia and theydid so, and who knows what
exactly the campaign gleanedfrom that information, but it's
entirely possible they couldhave got access to the source
(08:53):
code that could have allowedthem.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm guessing they didn't care about the licensing
agreement they had, but theywere and were not allowed to do
with the software on the machine.
They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,we're not going to reverse
engineer it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, of course not.
But no, I you know,theoretically speaking it's,
it's possible that a handful ofprogrammers could have looked at
the code and engineered somesort of some sort of virus that
they could use to infiltratethese voting systems and,
theoretically, have them.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, this is all.
This is all true in theory, butalso in theory, if you have
this theory, and while we stillhave intelligence communities,
like if there really issuspicion of this, I would hope
that people with investigativeand intelligence skills would be
(09:42):
on this.
So I just cannot afford to putmy mental energy into like
pursuing a conspiracy while Idon't know.
I can't, I can't waste a secondjust with copium or whatever
yeah, I'd agree with you there.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I probably wouldn't spend too much time delving into
that.
What I would say is if it's,then, then we'll.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Maybe we'll hear more about it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
What I would say instead is what you can do in
practical terms is, if you livein a swing state, you call your
local elections representativeor your secretary of state's
office and ask for a hand count.
A hand count, and if there isany discrepancy between actual
votes and what was tabulated, ahand count will at the very
(10:34):
least, show a percentage of adiscrepancy, and that could
potentially lead to a forensicexamination that would allow
some of the swing states to lookfurther into their election
systems whether any votes mighthave been tabulated differently
than they were cast.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I just don't know why you would assume that the
wheels weren't already in motionfor this.
And it's just that we have acandidate who doesn't like state
say everything out loud like haha, ha ha.
You don't know what I'm like.
She's like all, right now Idon't think this is happening,
but if if it were happening, Iwouldn't be like ha ha ha, I'd
be like yeah, okay, and thenjust come with the fucking
(11:08):
paperwork.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know yeah, I'm so obviously the harris campaign's
been really quiet since theelection.
I don't take that to meananything one way or the other.
I don't think that's a signalthat something's being done
behind the scenes quietly interms of the campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Or she could just be getting ready to flee the
country.
Who fucking knows?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, theoretically they could be looking for ways
to ensure that there's a recountor a recount by hand or some
sort of some sort ofinvestigation into election
systems, but I don't think theirsilence on that matter means
anything one way or the other.
Also, on the other hand, theintelligence community if they
(11:52):
are investigating any potentialaccess into voting machines or
tabulation equipment, thatinvestigation is going to be
done in absolute silence andwe're not going to get any
public information until thatinvestigation is concluded and
in all likelihood that'll takeweeks at the very least.
Now I'm absolutely sure ifthere was absolute, there were
(12:15):
no evidence whatsoever of anykind of tampering with equipment
or any kind of insertion ofmalware into these devices.
If there were evidence of that,they could potentially come to
that conclusion fairly fast interms of or at least making a
public statement that they'd belooking into this.
But again, you know the coin.
(12:36):
It's just a coin flip onwhether or not they would make
that information publiclyavailable before the
investigation is completed.
But again, I would say don'trely on that and instead what
you can do in practical terms ismake sure your vote is counted
by calling your elections office.
In doing so, you can check outvoteorg.
If you voted early by mailgenerally, specifically by mail
(12:58):
In a lot of these swing statesthose votes do get tracked.
So if you mailed your ballotand you know you mailed it and
you can check voteorg to see ifit received.
I think in Pennsylvaniaspecifically, it won't update
past received but in some states, like Arizona, once it's
received and counted it willupdate from received to counted
and that's probably a good wayto ensure that your vote was
(13:19):
counted.
And even if it's not, thedifference in the margins
between Kamala Harris winningover Trump could be the
difference in a House race.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Especially if you live in California.
Just like, if you're listeningto this show, you probably know
what fucking congressionaldistrict you're in, or you
should Look it up and if yourrace hasn't been called, find
out.
If you're, yeah, find out.
If it's been counted.
Ask your friends to find out iftheir ballots have been counted
(13:51):
.
Ask your neighbors.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Absolutely so, of course, after the news that
Trump was elected president andwill be taking office in 2025,
just, we've had just anexplosion of just absolute
racism misogyny across America,highlighted by another other
than Nick Fuentes posting onTwitter the quote, the quote
(14:25):
your body, my choice, therebyassuming that he means that
women do not have control overtheir bodies and, in fact, that
it is the men that have controlover women's bodies.
And I would just like to saythat we do not support that or
propose that idea to be true inany shape, form or fashion.
It's just absolutely disgusting.
Yeah, it just roasted him allover the internet.
Apparently.
Someone looked up all hisinformation and doxxed him on
the internet and a bunch ofpeople were like tweeting out
(14:49):
your house, my choice, which ispretty good.
Women out there who are notgoing to take this lightly.
I approve.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's not illegal to have his address right, Just to
post it it's not illegal to havehis address right, Just to post
it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's publicly available information if you
want.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, it's not illegal for me to say, for me to have it
.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, I would say stay away from posting it to the
laws.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm not going to post it.
I mean I haven't.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean I don't have it just because I'm not down
with thoughts.
You know, doxing of people,what's good for the goose is
good for the gander, and I don'tlike when it happens to us.
So I mean, though, I did kikibecause I thought it was cute
and funny, but I didn't share orrepost.
You know I'm not going to dothat.
(15:35):
Yeah, I'm a mix bag, regardlessof how vile I think that
motherfucker is yeah, thecomments were.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It was just extraordinarily gross and
distasteful and I am, generallyspeaking, not a fan of doxing
either, but also, like it was,nick fuentes being the worst
possible person in the world andhis information.
Generally speaking, if youwanted to find it, it's publicly
available.
So I really just yeah, it's,it's a.
It's tough drawing that line,uh, but in terms of you know,
(16:06):
women deciding that they'regoing to step up and defend
themselves and I take this lyingdown I support that
wholeheartedly, and men shouldprobably be doing a better job
of standing up and andsupporting women as well.
Ty, I don't know what the hellit is you're doing over there.
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I got it the mosquitoes are killing me.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh, my God, you are glistening over there.
You look like a, like abodybuilding contest.
You were just shining.
You look like one of them.
P Diddy parties with all thebaby oil.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Stop, it All right, no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Probably going to let Diddy out of jail.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, you know you live in New York.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We're going to have to bail out on this because I'm
getting hungry.
I love you guys listening andwatching.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We're going to let you step out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
We'll catch you later .
Love you guys.
Love you D.
Love you Carol.
Love you listeners.
I'm still on vacation.
Bye.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, ty's currently on vacation out of the
country and enjoying somefamily time, yeah, chilling out
with her husband and visitingsome family for a wedding.
But so, yeah, it's been justthe explosion of just
(17:37):
distasteful, gross behavior onsocial media.
It's been tough here to watchover the course of the past few
days.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Are you saying I quit Twitter at a good time.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh yeah, in case you missed it, carol's quit Twitter.
She doesn't like the idea ofElon Musk having access to her
information.
But again, you know once you've.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean he's going to keep it it anyway.
It's not like he cares.
I was like, oh, I could deletemy stuff 90 days before trump
takes office and like you'llhave to get rid of my data, but
because that'll violate the fci,he's gonna get rid of the fcc
yeah, the fcc, that thing isprobably toast.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
uh, you know, I'm sorry, guys, these are the
consequences of electing Trump.
Yeah, so in terms of just all ofthe bad things that happen over
the course of a second Trumpadministration is going to be
terribly bad, but that's notonly including the things that
the Trump administration isgoing to do.
It's going to be a number ofjust the worst people on planet
(18:40):
earth being fucking emboldenedto engage in the worst possible
behavior we've seen in ourlifetimes.
You can just you know, that isjust a fact, you can mark that
down.
I mean, I just assume in termsof like crime statistics, sexual
assaults are likely going up.
You know hate crimes are likelygoing up.
(19:01):
Of course we're going to havejust it's not going to be good
guys.
I'm sorry, like I want to bepositive and proactive, but to
do that like got to be honestwith you.
You're going to have to acceptthat it's going to be an
extraordinarily difficult anddark time with what's coming
ahead.
But again, you know we'll behere.
We'll be here for you to beyour weekly therapy session,
(19:25):
fingers crossed, you know,unless me and carol end up
getting sent off to theconcentration camp somehow,
which is still a possibility.
Uh, you know, and in thatregard, make sure you hit the
like button.
Uh, subscribe all that goodstuff make sure I might I might
power out before then.
You're scaring the shit out ofme and look list of the list of
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enemies on trump's list uh, isextraordinarily long.
We're going to be close to thebottom of it.
So you've you've got that goingfor you and they're going to
come after a lot of peoplebefore they come after us, so
you'll have plenty of warningsigns, uh well, that being said,
if any of my co-hosts do decidethat they need to for the
(20:08):
safety of themselves and theirfriends and family or whatnot,
decide that they shall not becontinuing in this endeavor to
cover the insanity that's coming, I got to tell you I ain't
really got no options.
As a black guy living in America, I've already seen how bad it
can possibly get, and justgiving in to that in all
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likelihood will lead to just aspoor of an outcome as attempting
to resist it in that regard.
But I know a lot of you outthere probably feeling down and
detracted and disappointed inAmerica, and I totally agree
with you out there.
But there's absolutely no groupfeeling more down and dejected
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and disgusted with this outcomethan black women who voted for
Kamala Harris at somewhere closeto 92 percent, who voted for
Kamala Harris at somewhere closeto 92%, yet again showing that
they are the most intelligentand apt and compassionate
demographic.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I heard Jewish women were at 88%.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Y'all were right there.
I was just about to say pastblack women, jewish women, y'all
are invited to the cookout.
Y'all get to go, y'all get toput.
We're going to turn that shitinto a bar mitzvah.
It's going to be lit Matzahballs for everybody.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Don't, don't, don't.
This is like a Passover barmitzvah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, don't, don't.
Don't.
Bring no fish, though we don'treally well, no, um.
So, demographically speaking,uh, as we get more and more
numbers here, it appears like acouple things happened during
the 2024 election, like trumpbasically hit his 2020 number
plus um, uh, he wasextraordinarily successful he
(21:58):
lost votes uh, I think he'sgonna hit his 2024 number plus
maybe a million or so.
Um, so he was successful and, ofcourse, maintaining his white
vote and proving upon what hedid in 2020 and and you know,
I'll try to tell you, I'm notyou specifically, carol, but a
lot of people is like one of thebest things biden did was pull
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white male voters away fromTrump and we just threw that
advantage away like garbage.
I mean, I talked about beforethe election, like one of the
things about switching fromKamala Harris to Trump, or
rather, switching from Biden toKamala Harris or switching from
Harris to Trump is just adisaster.
But so that transition fromBiden to Harris, you were going
(22:42):
to lose some voters who werelikely only going to show up for
Joe Biden in 2024.
And with Kamala Harris on theticket that's kind of what
happened Like she's just notgoing to hit the same numbers
that Biden hit and if she had,she still would have won this
election.
And because she didn't, youknow, the future is looking grim
(23:04):
.
Also, white women voters votedfor Trump at about the same rate
as they did in 2020.
But because the electorate is afew million votes short of
where it was in 2020, thatnumber, percentage wise, is a
little bit higher for Trump.
Latinos move slightly towardsTrump in a lot of states and
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that contributed to KamalaHarris's loss, you know, despite
the fact that Trump's policieswill be largely detrimental to
them in terms of justeconomically and well, in terms
of like citizenship.
He's already said that he'splanned on trying to ensure that
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the 14th Amendment doesn'tapply to people who were born
from undocumented, slash illegalimmigrants.
So anyone who was brought intothe country or anyone who was in
the country illegally, who haschildren, those people won't be
citizens, and I'm assumingthere's probably some sort of
plan to send that decision, likefile a lawsuit and send that
(24:10):
decision up to the Supreme Court, in hopes the Supreme Court
will enact that retroactively,meaning that if your parents or
grandparents orgreat-grandparents were in the
country illegally, then you'llhave your citizenship revoked
and you'll be part of the massdeportation program.
So kudos to you guys.
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Latino group Black men votedabout the same in terms of raw
numbers, as they did in 2020.
As they did in 2020.
But again, because theelectorate was slightly smaller,
you know, trump won a slightlylarger percentage of black men
than he did in 2020.
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I think it was somewhere around79, 80% of black men voted for
Kamala Harris, which you know.
Just to put things inperspective here, like a lot of
talk about black men abandoningthe Democratic Party was false,
because Trump got about, youknow, maybe 10 to 12 percent of
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the black vote in 2020.
And I think this time he gotaround 12 to 14.
I mean that's just a tinypercentage in terms of swings to
14.
I mean that's just a tinypercentage in terms of swings,
but past Black men, no one elsevoted for the Democratic Party
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and specifically Kamala Harris,at the rate that Black men,
black women and Jewish women did.
So I mean, just take that howyou want to.
Again, it's just small shiftshere and there and lower turnout
on the Democratic Party werelargely responsible for Trump's
victory.
But there was another strangeoutcome that determined a number
of elections in swing states,and that appears to be the fact
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that, even though Kamala Harrislost all seven of the major
battleground states, democraticsenators in those states won an
overwhelming victory.
I think it was a sweep.
Was there a Senate race inPennsylvania?
So North Carolina, wisconsin,michigan, all of those places.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Senate race in Pennsylvania hasn't been called.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Hasn't been called yet.
So that might be the one whereRepublicans win the Senate, but
in all the other states,democrats massively overperform
Kamala Harris in state races.
And there's a couple of youknow key takeaways from that.
One is that apparently, youknow there were hundreds of
thousands of voters in each ofthese states to three hundred
(26:41):
thousand that apparently votedfor Trump at the top of the
ticket but didn't vote for anyother Republican down ballot.
They just left everything elseblank.
Now, in terms of you know, votesin that regard that were
undervoted in 2020, it's just amassive three, four X increase.
And again, as I say, call yourstate elected official to make
(27:03):
sure that your vote gets counted, because that's a statistical
anomaly that's difficult toaccount for, just in terms of.
I mean, you know, statisticallyspeaking, it's highly unlikely
that.
You know, two, three millionpeople in America decided in one
of the most importantpresidential elections that they
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were only going to vote forpresident Right.
It's just extraordinarily weird.
And so that's how you end upwith, you know, north Carolina
going to Trump and a Democraticgovernor.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And good on them.
They got us to say that talkingabout elections being stolen is
insane.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, the people are falling for that stage for the
shit that they fucked up yeah,the the republicans spent four
years talking about how ourelection was rigged, and then,
when they win the election,they're like hi, you can't say
their election was rigged now,and like that's extraordinarily
dumb.
You can question the electionresults.
All you want to.
What you can't do is storm thefucking Capitol.
(28:04):
Speaking of which, I hopeeveryone listening to this
podcast is buying their ticketsfor DC to attend the January 6th
certificate.
No, I'm kidding.
Yeah, but Carol, got anythoughts that you wanted to get
off your chest before we closehere?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Got any thoughts that you wanted to get off your
chest before we close here?
I mean, I was trying to avoidwatching things like that Trump
video for my sanity, because Ifeel like the only thing I could
really do is try to servearound my community.
I don't know, I've been tryingto turn feelings of hopelessness
into like some sort of action.
(28:47):
I can't think of much besideslike local involvement and
reaching out to people andshowing kindness.
I can't.
Maybe I'll go take shootinglessons.
It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You know, given the impending apocalypse, you
probably need to learn how toshoot a gun.
Me personally, after watchingthe Walking Dead, my solution
here is to buy a sword, becausethose don't jam, they don't run
out of bullets, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
My governor starts having some sort of like freedom
task force or something.
But I mean, I hate to break itto you I probably wouldn't put
too much faith in Kathy Hochulwhatever the fuck her name is
yeah, she's, she's a lot more, Imean she's not a conservative,
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but she's a lot moreconservative of a Democrat than
you would generally expect tocome out of a governor.
New York hopes to be able towork with the new president or
whatever, but if the federalgovernment tries to impinge on
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New Yorkers' freedoms, we have atask force ready to defend them
as much as we can.
And I know that you're sayingthey can't do that much,
possibly.
That much possibly, but let'sfucking see, because I can't lay
down and die right now.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So uh, yeah, I mean fingers crossed, like, again,
we're mostly counting on trump'sincompetence to be the
hindrance to him successfullyexecuting any sort of you know
irreversible events across theunited states over the course of
his administration.
(30:47):
Now, I mean again, stupidpeople with power can do a lot
of damage, so you know who knowswhat's possible.
Uh, but you do have letitiajames, who I imagine is likely
to stay in office, if not runfor mayor of new york.
But I absolutely suggest youguys up there in New York I know
you're not in New York Cityspecifically, but y'all got to
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get Eric Adams the fuck up outof there.
Republican in chief's clothingthis entire time.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now he's kissing up to Trump, hoping that these
federal investigations which Iwas saying before he was voted
the candidate.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Hey, maya Wiley was right there, but no, eric Adams
is getting up to Trump now,probably hoping to make those
federal investigations go away.
If not, get a pardon.
I mean you know, and then againyou know, being the mayor of
New York City, he could do a lotto help enable some of Trump's
(31:43):
you know worst.
I don't even really know whatthe word is specifically, but
just you know his instincts,yeah, and some of his worst
impulses in terms of punishingblue states for not supporting
him overwhelmingly.
You know Gavin Newsom out therein California.
I know a lot of you guysprobably look at him as the
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future of the Democratic Party.
I wouldn't really jump toconclusions on that but, fingers
crossed, he'll do what he canto ensure that Californians are
protected.
But I mean it's going to bejust a lot of turmoil out here
and conflict between the statesand the federal government and
you're going to need you know alot.
You're going to need a stronggovernor.
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You're going to need strongmayors.
You're going to need, you knowvery talented and insightful
attorneys working with yourstates in order to sue the Trump
administration and fight allthe rulings that are probably
coming forward here over thecourse of the next four years.
And, fingers crossed, if enoughstates band together, they can
tie up the Trump administrationin court for a long time over
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the things that he's planning toinstitute.
Just the only problem there iswith the most important of
issues they're likely going toget appealed by the Trump
administration.
Fast track to the Supreme Courtand they're going to rubber
stamp Trump's policies.
And I'm absolutely sure thepeople out here thinking that
the mass deportations aren'tgoing to happen.
I got news for you, buddy thosethings are absolutely going to
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get rolling.
How successful will they be inscope is difficult to tell,
because they're extraordinarilyexpensive to carry out and you
also have to have a location toplace these people once they're
rounded up for detention.
And then you have to findcountries that are willing to
accept these people, which isgoing to be extraordinarily
difficult, as the Nazis foundout with the Jewish population
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pre-World War II.
And again, just like instillingfear among millions of people
working in this country to feelas though they can't work or
participate in all the aspectsof, you know, american community
is just.
It's going to be deleterious tothe country economically as
(33:59):
well.
I mean a lot of these peoplethat Trump says that he wants to
round up first are the quoteunquote illegal migrants, and
those people do things like they.
They produce your food supply.
Food's going to getextraordinarily expensive very
quickly, you know, 23 bucks whenthere's no one to plant and
(34:28):
pick the lettuce or to work onthe farms to raise the cows or
in the slaughterhouses to chopup your beef.
You're going to have adifficult time with that.
Also, again, with the tariffsthat he's planning on
instituting.
There's absolutely nothing thatcan stop him from doing that.
Like the president of theUnited States, has pretty much
unilateral authority in regardsto tariffs being placed on what
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he would consider, you know, theenemies of the United States,
so there's an argument that hecan make that you know China is
an adversary Like his, hisbusiness, the people in business
around him are not going to.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I know Elon Musk wants the economy to be crash,
but I don't know if everybusinessman wants to, like all
those billionaire class want thefucking economy to crash or
want to pay all those fuckingtariffs.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, but so the people in Trump's?
I know you have.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh yeah, but for every fucking worst case
scenario, stop it.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I'm just saying the guard rails are off and it's
going to be a rough four years,but you still got us.
We'll always be here for you insome form or fashion, even if
that's secret broadcast from theinternment camps.
And that concludes this episodeof Part of the Insurrection.
in terms of the conspiracy theories floating
around about the electionpotentially being stolen.
Like I'm not one to super dillydally and conspiracy theories
on the podcast, I mean it's justa pointless exercise for me
largely and that's not to saythat I don't believe republicans
cheated in the election.
I believe they believeRepublicans cheated in the
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election.
I believe they've been cheatingin the election since 2016, for
that matter, Like we've talkedabout that endlessly.
All of the things they did in2016 to try and steal the
election and where they weresuccessful in winning the
electoral college.
All the things they did in 2020where they were unsuccessful in
trying to steal the election,which resulted in a failed coup
which resulted in a successfulcoup which eventually resulted
(00:49):
in a successful coup.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This is part of the problem with not holding these
people responsible at the timeand by responsible I'm not
talking specifically aboutJanuary 6th, I'm talking
specifically about 2016 becauseno one paid any real
consequences, even though RobertMueller and I had numerous
people.
They felt comfortable in theidea that they could cheat in
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2020 and 2024, and it worked outfor them.
But we do have comments fromElon Musk during his appearance
on the Joe Rogan podcast that,again not to inflame any
conspiracy theories out there,but in all likelihood make you
have some questions at the veryleast, if not some potential
(01:41):
serious concerns.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It was interesting because the beginning of the
night no one knew what was gonnahappen.
So you're watching the firstresults roll in and there's like
this weird thing and then Trumpgets way ahead but you're like
you don't want to like it toohopeful how far ahead he's a
head by 100 points.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That seems like a lot yeah, you're like what is it in
?
Some channels are like, andthen every channels kind of
different yeah, they'redifferent numbers.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was getting a different number off my Apple
News Update, then I was gettingoff of CNN and then I was
texting people like Tulsi and JDVance.
I was getting a different up.
Apparently, elon created an appand he knew who won four hours
before the results.
So as the results were comingin four hours before they called
(02:31):
it, dana White told me Elon waslike I'm leaving, it's over,
donald won.
He just fucking somehow oranother.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I'm going to go back to my pod and evaporate.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I don't know what he's getting, where he's pulling
his data from, but he had, like, the most accurate data in
terms of the rural states.
Hadn't put the results in yet,but yet Trump was ahead in these
states.
Kamala is never going to winthose states, so tabulated that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, apparently, over the course of the 2024
election, elon Starlink systemswere connected to a number of
vote tabulators Now, not theactual vote systems themselves,
but the machines that do thecounting in order to, I suppose,
increase their Internetconnectivity.
Now, again, like the not to besuper conspiratorial here, but
(03:23):
these are the people who, in2020, said the satellites were
flipping votes.
You can take from that what youwant.
I'm, I'm.
You know.
If you do possibly have anytheories about any impact that
having those tabulators beingconnected to the internet could
have on the counting of actualvotes, feel free to muse over
there.
Those, uh, you know, I'm notnecessarily saying that elon
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must directly interfered in thecounting of actual votes.
Feel free to muse over those.
You know, I'm not necessarilysaying that Elon Musk directly
interfered in the counting ofvotes.
Anything is possible.
But you have Joe Rogan theresaying, who just recently had
Elon Musk on his podcast, thatElon had put together an app
that definitively told him thatDonald Trump won the election
hours before it was even called.
So make of that what you will,uh, but that's what happens when
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you give you know, a superwealthy uh, formerly apartheid
when you try to make an iron manand you end up with apartheid
baby like control not lex lutherin this case, since we have the
mcu and robert downey jr, whowas formerly iron man, returning
(04:31):
as a as a villain.
This go around.
The analogy would be when youhave iron man, uh and and you
unmask him to reveal dr doom ohdear yep.
But speaking of elon musk andhis involvement in the 2024
election, we have a video clipput together by a uk firm that
(04:53):
lays out all of elon's variousroles in influencing.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Oh yeah, I saw this earlier this is the story of how
the world's richest person, theowner of tesla and x, bought
the global town square, thencorrupted it, before using his
immense wealth to help elect aconvicted felon.
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April 14, 2022, elon musk makesan unsolicited offer to buy
Twitter for $44 billion.
He claims the site has becomepolitically skewed and says For
Twitter to deserve public trust,it must be politically neutral.
October 27, the deal goesthrough.
The next evening, a far-rightconspiracy theorist breaks into
the San Francisco home ofDemocrat House Speaker Nancy
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Pelosi, intending to kidnap her.
Pelosi is away, but the manattacks her husband, paul,
hitting him repeatedly on thehead with a hammer.
Paul Pelosi escapes with hislife, but requires surgery for a
fractured skull.
While most people take thechance to decry political
violence, the new owner ofTwitter, elon Musk, posts a
tweet sharing an entirely falseclaim that Paul Pelosi was in
fact injured in a drunken fightwith a male prostitute with whom
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he was involved.
Musk includes a link to a falseclaim on a website that has a
history of publishing conspiracytheories, including a story
asserting that Hillary Clintonis dead and has been replaced by
a body double.
Musk's post is retweeted 24,000times before he deletes it.
November 18th, musk's Twitterstarts to unlock previously
banned accounts.
Misogynist far-right influencerAndrew Tate was permanently
(06:25):
banned from Twitter in 2017after urging women to quote bear
some responsibility for rape.
Now he's back.
Tate posts.
I've decided to fly to thefailed state of California, walk
into Twitter HQ and tell atElon Musk he's a legend On my
way.
Two months later, tate will bearrested in Romania on suspicion
of human trafficking, rape andforming an organized crime group
(06:46):
.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And it just goes on, and on, and on and on.
We'll post a link to that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I made it less far into the video earlier today
when I watched it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, but we'll post a link to the video.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I just got a thing from that that place I was
supposed to be phone bankingthat never got.
They're like, hey, how was theevent?
Like what the fuck?
Where was the link?
Dude.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, okay.
So yeah, I was supposed to beballot curing.
Yes, to explain in greaterdetail.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Ballot curing.
There are still some undecidedcongressional races for 2024.
And I was told that a lot ofballots have been rejected or
for various reasons and thosevoters have an opportunity to
cure their ballots until acertain date.
I don't know what it is.
(07:39):
I had volunteered for bankingshift today to call people in
California and I don't know.
I just the link just keptrerouting me to the registration
page and it was like wait forinstructions from a state.
I'm like what state?
What state, what instructions?
So I tried.
Maybe this is why we fuckinglost, but I think it was Elon
(08:01):
Musk.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So clearly we need to get our organizational skills
together.
Or it's just me?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I said so many words and states.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
When it comes to doing things as simple as phone
banking to get voters to curetheir ballots.
But yeah, back to Elon Musk.
So that video is I think it'slike almost 10 minutes long.
It's just endless examples ofElon Musk's attempts to
manipulate the American publicinto voting against their best
interests.
And again, so post 2021, youknow.
(08:31):
Again back to feeling theelection stealing, conspiracy
theories.
So back in 2021, post coup.
You know Trump's campaignfought to get access to voting
equipment in Georgia and theydid so, and who knows what
exactly the campaign gleanedfrom that information, but it's
entirely possible they couldhave got access to the source
(08:53):
code that could have allowedthem.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm guessing they didn't care about the licensing
agreement they had, but theywere and were not allowed to do
with the software on the machine.
They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,we're not going to reverse
engineer it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, of course not.
But no, I you know,theoretically speaking it's,
it's possible that a handful ofprogrammers could have looked at
the code and engineered somesort of some sort of virus that
they could use to infiltratethese voting systems and,
theoretically, have them.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, this is all.
This is all true in theory, butalso in theory, if you have
this theory, and while we stillhave intelligence communities,
like if there really issuspicion of this, I would hope
that people with investigativeand intelligence skills would be
(09:42):
on this.
So I just cannot afford to putmy mental energy into like
pursuing a conspiracy while Idon't know.
I can't, I can't waste a secondjust with copium or whatever
yeah, I'd agree with you there.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I probably wouldn't spend too much time delving into
that.
What I would say is if it's,then, then we'll.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Maybe we'll hear more about it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
What I would say instead is what you can do in
practical terms is, if you livein a swing state, you call your
local elections representativeor your secretary of state's
office and ask for a hand count.
A hand count, and if there isany discrepancy between actual
votes and what was tabulated, ahand count will at the very
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least, show a percentage of adiscrepancy, and that could
potentially lead to a forensicexamination that would allow
some of the swing states to lookfurther into their election
systems whether any votes mighthave been tabulated differently
than they were cast.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I just don't know why you would assume that the
wheels weren't already in motionfor this.
And it's just that we have acandidate who doesn't like state
say everything out loud like haha, ha ha.
You don't know what I'm like.
She's like all, right now Idon't think this is happening,
but if if it were happening, Iwouldn't be like ha ha ha, I'd
be like yeah, okay, and thenjust come with the fucking
(11:08):
paperwork.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know yeah, I'm so obviously the harris campaign's
been really quiet since theelection.
I don't take that to meananything one way or the other.
I don't think that's a signalthat something's being done
behind the scenes quietly interms of the campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Or she could just be getting ready to flee the
country.
Who fucking knows?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, theoretically they could be looking for ways
to ensure that there's a recountor a recount by hand or some
sort of some sort ofinvestigation into election
systems, but I don't think theirsilence on that matter means
anything one way or the other.
Also, on the other hand, theintelligence community if they
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are investigating any potentialaccess into voting machines or
tabulation equipment, thatinvestigation is going to be
done in absolute silence andwe're not going to get any
public information until thatinvestigation is concluded and
in all likelihood that'll takeweeks at the very least.
Now I'm absolutely sure ifthere was absolute, there were
(12:15):
no evidence whatsoever of anykind of tampering with equipment
or any kind of insertion ofmalware into these devices.
If there were evidence of that,they could potentially come to
that conclusion fairly fast interms of or at least making a
public statement that they'd belooking into this.
But again, you know the coin.
(12:36):
It's just a coin flip onwhether or not they would make
that information publiclyavailable before the
investigation is completed.
But again, I would say don'trely on that and instead what
you can do in practical terms ismake sure your vote is counted
by calling your elections office.
In doing so, you can check outvoteorg.
If you voted early by mailgenerally, specifically by mail
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In a lot of these swing statesthose votes do get tracked.
So if you mailed your ballotand you know you mailed it and
you can check voteorg to see ifit received.
I think in Pennsylvaniaspecifically, it won't update
past received but in some states, like Arizona, once it's
received and counted it willupdate from received to counted
and that's probably a good wayto ensure that your vote was
(13:19):
counted.
And even if it's not, thedifference in the margins
between Kamala Harris winningover Trump could be the
difference in a House race.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Especially if you live in California.
Just like, if you're listeningto this show, you probably know
what fucking congressionaldistrict you're in, or you
should Look it up and if yourrace hasn't been called, find
out.
If you're, yeah, find out.
If it's been counted.
Ask your friends to find out iftheir ballots have been counted
(13:51):
.
Ask your neighbors.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Absolutely so, of course, after the news that
Trump was elected president andwill be taking office in 2025,
just, we've had just anexplosion of just absolute
racism misogyny across America,highlighted by another other
than Nick Fuentes posting onTwitter the quote, the quote
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your body, my choice, therebyassuming that he means that
women do not have control overtheir bodies and, in fact, that
it is the men that have controlover women's bodies.
And I would just like to saythat we do not support that or
propose that idea to be true inany shape, form or fashion.
It's just absolutely disgusting.
Yeah, it just roasted him allover the internet.
Apparently.
Someone looked up all hisinformation and doxxed him on
the internet and a bunch ofpeople were like tweeting out
(14:49):
your house, my choice, which ispretty good.
Women out there who are notgoing to take this lightly.
I approve.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's not illegal to have his address right, Just to
post it it's not illegal to havehis address right, Just to post
it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's publicly available information if you
want.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, it's not illegal for me to say, for me to have it
.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, I would say stay away from posting it to the
laws.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm not going to post it.
I mean I haven't.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean I don't have it just because I'm not down
with thoughts.
You know, doxing of people,what's good for the goose is
good for the gander, and I don'tlike when it happens to us.
So I mean, though, I did kikibecause I thought it was cute
and funny, but I didn't share orrepost.
You know I'm not going to dothat.
(15:35):
Yeah, I'm a mix bag, regardlessof how vile I think that
motherfucker is yeah, thecomments were.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It was just extraordinarily gross and
distasteful and I am, generallyspeaking, not a fan of doxing
either, but also, like it was,nick fuentes being the worst
possible person in the world andhis information.
Generally speaking, if youwanted to find it, it's publicly
available.
So I really just yeah, it's,it's a.
It's tough drawing that line,uh, but in terms of you know,
(16:06):
women deciding that they'regoing to step up and defend
themselves and I take this lyingdown I support that
wholeheartedly, and men shouldprobably be doing a better job
of standing up and andsupporting women as well.
Ty, I don't know what the hellit is you're doing over there.
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I got it the mosquitoes are killing me.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh, my God, you are glistening over there.
You look like a, like abodybuilding contest.
You were just shining.
You look like one of them.
P Diddy parties with all thebaby oil.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Stop, it All right, no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Probably going to let Diddy out of jail.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, you know you live in New York.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We're going to have to bail out on this because I'm
getting hungry.
I love you guys listening andwatching.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We're going to let you step out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
We'll catch you later .
Love you guys.
Love you D.
Love you Carol.
Love you listeners.
I'm still on vacation.
Bye.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, ty's currently on vacation out of the
country and enjoying somefamily time, yeah, chilling out
with her husband and visitingsome family for a wedding.
But so, yeah, it's been justthe explosion of just
(17:37):
distasteful, gross behavior onsocial media.
It's been tough here to watchover the course of the past few
days.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Are you saying I quit Twitter at a good time.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh yeah, in case you missed it, carol's quit Twitter.
She doesn't like the idea ofElon Musk having access to her
information.
But again, you know once you've.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean he's going to keep it it anyway.
It's not like he cares.
I was like, oh, I could deletemy stuff 90 days before trump
takes office and like you'llhave to get rid of my data, but
because that'll violate the fci,he's gonna get rid of the fcc
yeah, the fcc, that thing isprobably toast.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
uh, you know, I'm sorry, guys, these are the
consequences of electing Trump.
Yeah, so in terms of just all ofthe bad things that happen over
the course of a second Trumpadministration is going to be
terribly bad, but that's notonly including the things that
the Trump administration isgoing to do.
It's going to be a number ofjust the worst people on planet
(18:40):
earth being fucking emboldenedto engage in the worst possible
behavior we've seen in ourlifetimes.
You can just you know, that isjust a fact, you can mark that
down.
I mean, I just assume in termsof like crime statistics, sexual
assaults are likely going up.
You know hate crimes are likelygoing up.
(19:01):
Of course we're going to havejust it's not going to be good
guys.
I'm sorry, like I want to bepositive and proactive, but to
do that like got to be honestwith you.
You're going to have to acceptthat it's going to be an
extraordinarily difficult anddark time with what's coming
ahead.
But again, you know we'll behere.
We'll be here for you to beyour weekly therapy session,
(19:25):
fingers crossed, you know,unless me and carol end up
getting sent off to theconcentration camp somehow,
which is still a possibility.
Uh, you know, and in thatregard, make sure you hit the
like button.
Uh, subscribe all that goodstuff make sure I might I might
power out before then.
You're scaring the shit out ofme and look list of the list of
(19:48):
enemies on trump's list uh, isextraordinarily long.
We're going to be close to thebottom of it.
So you've you've got that goingfor you and they're going to
come after a lot of peoplebefore they come after us, so
you'll have plenty of warningsigns, uh well, that being said,
if any of my co-hosts do decidethat they need to for the
(20:08):
safety of themselves and theirfriends and family or whatnot,
decide that they shall not becontinuing in this endeavor to
cover the insanity that's coming, I got to tell you I ain't
really got no options.
As a black guy living in America, I've already seen how bad it
can possibly get, and justgiving in to that in all
(20:30):
likelihood will lead to just aspoor of an outcome as attempting
to resist it in that regard.
But I know a lot of you outthere probably feeling down and
detracted and disappointed inAmerica, and I totally agree
with you out there.
But there's absolutely no groupfeeling more down and dejected
(20:51):
and disgusted with this outcomethan black women who voted for
Kamala Harris at somewhere closeto 92 percent, who voted for
Kamala Harris at somewhere closeto 92%, yet again showing that
they are the most intelligentand apt and compassionate
demographic.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I heard Jewish women were at 88%.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Y'all were right there.
I was just about to say pastblack women, jewish women, y'all
are invited to the cookout.
Y'all get to go, y'all get toput.
We're going to turn that shitinto a bar mitzvah.
It's going to be lit Matzahballs for everybody.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Don't, don't, don't.
This is like a Passover barmitzvah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, don't, don't.
Don't.
Bring no fish, though we don'treally well, no, um.
So, demographically speaking,uh, as we get more and more
numbers here, it appears like acouple things happened during
the 2024 election, like trumpbasically hit his 2020 number
plus um, uh, he wasextraordinarily successful he
(21:58):
lost votes uh, I think he'sgonna hit his 2024 number plus
maybe a million or so.
Um, so he was successful and, ofcourse, maintaining his white
vote and proving upon what hedid in 2020 and and you know,
I'll try to tell you, I'm notyou specifically, carol, but a
lot of people is like one of thebest things biden did was pull
(22:20):
white male voters away fromTrump and we just threw that
advantage away like garbage.
I mean, I talked about beforethe election, like one of the
things about switching fromKamala Harris to Trump, or
rather, switching from Biden toKamala Harris or switching from
Harris to Trump is just adisaster.
But so that transition fromBiden to Harris, you were going
(22:42):
to lose some voters who werelikely only going to show up for
Joe Biden in 2024.
And with Kamala Harris on theticket that's kind of what
happened Like she's just notgoing to hit the same numbers
that Biden hit and if she had,she still would have won this
election.
And because she didn't, youknow, the future is looking grim
(23:04):
.
Also, white women voters votedfor Trump at about the same rate
as they did in 2020.
But because the electorate is afew million votes short of
where it was in 2020, thatnumber, percentage wise, is a
little bit higher for Trump.
Latinos move slightly towardsTrump in a lot of states and
(23:27):
that contributed to KamalaHarris's loss, you know, despite
the fact that Trump's policieswill be largely detrimental to
them in terms of justeconomically and well, in terms
of like citizenship.
He's already said that he'splanned on trying to ensure that
(23:49):
the 14th Amendment doesn'tapply to people who were born
from undocumented, slash illegalimmigrants.
So anyone who was brought intothe country or anyone who was in
the country illegally, who haschildren, those people won't be
citizens, and I'm assumingthere's probably some sort of
plan to send that decision, likefile a lawsuit and send that
(24:10):
decision up to the Supreme Court, in hopes the Supreme Court
will enact that retroactively,meaning that if your parents or
grandparents orgreat-grandparents were in the
country illegally, then you'llhave your citizenship revoked
and you'll be part of the massdeportation program.
So kudos to you guys.
(24:31):
Latino group Black men votedabout the same in terms of raw
numbers, as they did in 2020.
As they did in 2020.
But again, because theelectorate was slightly smaller,
you know, trump won a slightlylarger percentage of black men
than he did in 2020.
(24:52):
I think it was somewhere around79, 80% of black men voted for
Kamala Harris, which you know.
Just to put things inperspective here, like a lot of
talk about black men abandoningthe Democratic Party was false,
because Trump got about, youknow, maybe 10 to 12 percent of
(25:13):
the black vote in 2020.
And I think this time he gotaround 12 to 14.
I mean that's just a tinypercentage in terms of swings to
14.
I mean that's just a tinypercentage in terms of swings,
but past Black men, no one elsevoted for the Democratic Party
(25:33):
and specifically Kamala Harris,at the rate that Black men,
black women and Jewish women did.
So I mean, just take that howyou want to.
Again, it's just small shiftshere and there and lower turnout
on the Democratic Party werelargely responsible for Trump's
victory.
But there was another strangeoutcome that determined a number
of elections in swing states,and that appears to be the fact
(25:56):
that, even though Kamala Harrislost all seven of the major
battleground states, democraticsenators in those states won an
overwhelming victory.
I think it was a sweep.
Was there a Senate race inPennsylvania?
So North Carolina, wisconsin,michigan, all of those places.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Senate race in Pennsylvania hasn't been called.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Hasn't been called yet.
So that might be the one whereRepublicans win the Senate, but
in all the other states,democrats massively overperform
Kamala Harris in state races.
And there's a couple of youknow key takeaways from that.
One is that apparently, youknow there were hundreds of
thousands of voters in each ofthese states to three hundred
(26:41):
thousand that apparently votedfor Trump at the top of the
ticket but didn't vote for anyother Republican down ballot.
They just left everything elseblank.
Now, in terms of you know, votesin that regard that were
undervoted in 2020, it's just amassive three, four X increase.
And again, as I say, call yourstate elected official to make
(27:03):
sure that your vote gets counted, because that's a statistical
anomaly that's difficult toaccount for, just in terms of.
I mean, you know, statisticallyspeaking, it's highly unlikely
that.
You know, two, three millionpeople in America decided in one
of the most importantpresidential elections that they
(27:25):
were only going to vote forpresident Right.
It's just extraordinarily weird.
And so that's how you end upwith, you know, north Carolina
going to Trump and a Democraticgovernor.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And good on them.
They got us to say that talkingabout elections being stolen is
insane.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, the people are falling for that stage for the
shit that they fucked up yeah,the the republicans spent four
years talking about how ourelection was rigged, and then,
when they win the election,they're like hi, you can't say
their election was rigged now,and like that's extraordinarily
dumb.
You can question the electionresults.
All you want to.
What you can't do is storm thefucking Capitol.
(28:04):
Speaking of which, I hopeeveryone listening to this
podcast is buying their ticketsfor DC to attend the January 6th
certificate.
No, I'm kidding.
Yeah, but Carol, got anythoughts that you wanted to get
off your chest before we closehere?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Got any thoughts that you wanted to get off your
chest before we close here?
I mean, I was trying to avoidwatching things like that Trump
video for my sanity, because Ifeel like the only thing I could
really do is try to servearound my community.
I don't know, I've been tryingto turn feelings of hopelessness
into like some sort of action.
(28:47):
I can't think of much besideslike local involvement and
reaching out to people andshowing kindness.
I can't.
Maybe I'll go take shootinglessons.
It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You know, given the impending apocalypse, you
probably need to learn how toshoot a gun.
Me personally, after watchingthe Walking Dead, my solution
here is to buy a sword, becausethose don't jam, they don't run
out of bullets, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
My governor starts having some sort of like freedom
task force or something.
But I mean, I hate to break itto you I probably wouldn't put
too much faith in Kathy Hochulwhatever the fuck her name is
yeah, she's, she's a lot more, Imean she's not a conservative,
(29:50):
but she's a lot moreconservative of a Democrat than
you would generally expect tocome out of a governor.
New York hopes to be able towork with the new president or
whatever, but if the federalgovernment tries to impinge on
(30:12):
New Yorkers' freedoms, we have atask force ready to defend them
as much as we can.
And I know that you're sayingthey can't do that much,
possibly.
That much possibly, but let'sfucking see, because I can't lay
down and die right now.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So uh, yeah, I mean fingers crossed, like, again,
we're mostly counting on trump'sincompetence to be the
hindrance to him successfullyexecuting any sort of you know
irreversible events across theunited states over the course of
his administration.
(30:47):
Now, I mean again, stupidpeople with power can do a lot
of damage, so you know who knowswhat's possible.
Uh, but you do have letitiajames, who I imagine is likely
to stay in office, if not runfor mayor of new york.
But I absolutely suggest youguys up there in New York I know
you're not in New York Cityspecifically, but y'all got to
(31:09):
get Eric Adams the fuck up outof there.
Republican in chief's clothingthis entire time.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now he's kissing up to Trump, hoping that these
federal investigations which Iwas saying before he was voted
the candidate.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Hey, maya Wiley was right there, but no, eric Adams
is getting up to Trump now,probably hoping to make those
federal investigations go away.
If not, get a pardon.
I mean you know, and then againyou know, being the mayor of
New York City, he could do a lotto help enable some of Trump's
(31:43):
you know worst.
I don't even really know whatthe word is specifically, but
just you know his instincts,yeah, and some of his worst
impulses in terms of punishingblue states for not supporting
him overwhelmingly.
You know Gavin Newsom out therein California.
I know a lot of you guysprobably look at him as the
(32:05):
future of the Democratic Party.
I wouldn't really jump toconclusions on that but, fingers
crossed, he'll do what he canto ensure that Californians are
protected.
But I mean it's going to bejust a lot of turmoil out here
and conflict between the statesand the federal government and
you're going to need you know alot.
You're going to need a stronggovernor.
(32:26):
You're going to need strongmayors.
You're going to need, you knowvery talented and insightful
attorneys working with yourstates in order to sue the Trump
administration and fight allthe rulings that are probably
coming forward here over thecourse of the next four years.
And, fingers crossed, if enoughstates band together, they can
tie up the Trump administrationin court for a long time over
(32:51):
the things that he's planning toinstitute.
Just the only problem there iswith the most important of
issues they're likely going toget appealed by the Trump
administration.
Fast track to the Supreme Courtand they're going to rubber
stamp Trump's policies.
And I'm absolutely sure thepeople out here thinking that
the mass deportations aren'tgoing to happen.
I got news for you, buddy thosethings are absolutely going to
(33:13):
get rolling.
How successful will they be inscope is difficult to tell,
because they're extraordinarilyexpensive to carry out and you
also have to have a location toplace these people once they're
rounded up for detention.
And then you have to findcountries that are willing to
accept these people, which isgoing to be extraordinarily
difficult, as the Nazis foundout with the Jewish population
(33:36):
pre-World War II.
And again, just like instillingfear among millions of people
working in this country to feelas though they can't work or
participate in all the aspectsof, you know, american community
is just.
It's going to be deleterious tothe country economically as
(33:59):
well.
I mean a lot of these peoplethat Trump says that he wants to
round up first are the quoteunquote illegal migrants, and
those people do things like they.
They produce your food supply.
Food's going to getextraordinarily expensive very
quickly, you know, 23 bucks whenthere's no one to plant and
(34:28):
pick the lettuce or to work onthe farms to raise the cows or
in the slaughterhouses to chopup your beef.
You're going to have adifficult time with that.
Also, again, with the tariffsthat he's planning on
instituting.
There's absolutely nothing thatcan stop him from doing that.
Like the president of theUnited States, has pretty much
unilateral authority in regardsto tariffs being placed on what
(34:50):
he would consider, you know, theenemies of the United States,
so there's an argument that hecan make that you know China is
an adversary Like his, hisbusiness, the people in business
around him are not going to.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I know Elon Musk wants the economy to be crash,
but I don't know if everybusinessman wants to, like all
those billionaire class want thefucking economy to crash or
want to pay all those fuckingtariffs.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, but so the people in Trump's?
I know you have.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh yeah, but for every fucking worst case
scenario, stop it.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I'm just saying the guard rails are off and it's
going to be a rough four years,but you still got us.
We'll always be here for you insome form or fashion, even if
that's secret broadcast from theinternment camps.
And that concludes this episodeof Part of the Insurrection.
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