December 16, 2024 • 29 mins
What if local elections are the real catalyst for change? We celebrate the historic victories with El Paso electing its first black mayor, Renard Johnson, and Tulsa breaking a century-long drought with its own black mayor. These wins aren't just milestones—they're signals that the grassroots political landscape is shifting toward greater inclusivity. Amidst this celebration, we share a lighthearted moment pondering what our co-host Carol might do if Trump comes back to power.
The specter of a Trump 2.0 administration looms large as we delve into the possible ramifications of his return, especially in terms of who would fill critical roles. What happens if Christopher Wray steps down as FBI Director and Kash Patel, a controversial figure, steps into his shoes? We pull back the curtain on the potential hazards of having key positions filled with inexperienced appointees, emphasizing that a vote for Trump is a vote for the cadre he brings with him. Listen as we navigate through the complexities of national politics, from media integrity to legal battles involving defamation and public figures.
Our conversation takes a comedic turn as we dissect Trump's recent interview on MSNBC's "Meet the Press." We scrutinize his claims about the 2020 election and border security, noting his reliance on catchy slogans over substantive plans. Trump's far-fetched deportation tactics provoke laughter as he grapples with international relations in a way that echoes colonial attitudes. From border policies to birthright citizenship, we question the viability of his proposals, all while speculating on his next outlandish moves in the political arena. Join us for an episode that blends serious political analysis with a touch of humor.
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
but whatever yeah, ignore, we don't.
We're not going down the demonrabbit hole with these, just
that's.
That's a conversation fortwitter or whatever.
That's not.
Oh, we ain't doing that.
What up yo we have.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
El paso has its first black mayor.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Congratulations uh, we couldn't get our first black
president, but we got our firstblack mayor of El Paso.
Yeah, renard.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Johnson.
I've known him for about 30something years, him and his
brother Shay.
His brother was more my age, hewas our, our age, but but yeah,
it's so crazy because I, like,I've known him for a long time.
Beto endorsed him and he blewout his.
It went to a runoff.
(00:49):
Even though he blew out BrianKennedy, neither one got 50% of
the vote, so it had to go to arunoff.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So that was yesterday .
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And then Brian Kennedy conceded.
Good job, I mean, and I thinkTulsa got their first black
mayor in what like over 100years or something like that.
So you know we doing it up.
Finally, it's about the time.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, which is crazy because you know, el Paso is 80
percent Latino, so that's huge.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's a big deal.
So I'm super proud, though youknow proud moment.
We'll see what happens.
Well, I got to tell you localelections are where it's going
to be at for a minute here,because we got to ride the shit
out for the next few years.
That's where we're going tohave to make all our moves.
It's going to be locally.
Yeah, that's it One two, three,four.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Hey, this is D-Night, this is Ty, and Carol is on
permanent hiatus as she plans toflee the country once Trump
takes power.
And you're listening to thecall in the insurrection podcast
, uh, where we're not excitedthat polio is back, or at least
it's on its way back if, uh, youknow, rfk jr gets confirmed as
trump's health secretary becausehe wants to ban the polio
(01:56):
vaccine.
Um, you're excited about that.
Congratulations, you voted forthe right guy.
I would imagine that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's why people I don't think they understand
You're not voting for Trump.
You will be voting foreverybody that will come with
him.
He's not going to be the samepeople that would that were
there the first time, that atleast somewhat had some
credibility and at least someexperience.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
At the offset he tried to make it look like a
cabinet of you know, formidablepeople yeah, I mean the level of
qualifications, which wasalready stretched to the limit
in the first administration, uh,that's going to be totally
obliterated.
We're going to have tons andtons of inexperienced,
(02:41):
unqualified, if not outrightdangerous people taking powerful
positions.
But I mean, that's what you getwith the Trump administration.
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But yes, speaking of Trump'sincoming administration,
christopher Wray, current FBIdirector that was appointed by
Trump during his first term,announced that he would be
resigning at the end of Biden'sterm, setting the stage for none
(03:24):
other than Kash Patel, trump'syou know hit man at this point,
who has his own personal enemylist to become FBI director.
Now I know a lot of people outthere saying, hey, you know
there's some rules about.
You know when the FBI directorresigns and what that means for
his replacement, and, in effect,this will mean that Trump will
(03:45):
have to have his FBI directorSenate confirmed.
That's a small hurdle and likeRepublicans are probably going
to line up behind Cash Patel, asunqualified as he is.
He doesn't have anything on hisresume in terms of like
criminal indictments or rapeaccusations.
Like Pete Hexeth.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I think we did this all wrong.
See, the more we don't wantCash Patel, the more they're
going to want him and they'regoing to confirm him.
So what we should have donewith every pick was be like cool
, you're trying to reversepsychology.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, yeah, you know they're not the brightest.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And reverse psychology yeah, yeah, they're
not the brightest, and so theyonly know like one mode well,
two modes on the libs, and ifthe libs say yes, we say no, and
vice versa.
So I think we should have.
We're going to have to rememberthat next time to be like ooh
Cash, I couldn't think of abetter choice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's quite funny.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're ready.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Let Well, here we have a video of Senator John
Cornyn talking about this.
Very quickly, I had a goodmeeting with Kash Patel, the
nominee for FBI director.
We still don't know whatDirector Wray's plans are, but
eventually I assume that MrPatel will be confirmed as the
next FBI director.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Are you comfortable that he's going to?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
be able to stand up to Trump?
Well, I think that's a fairquestion to ask.
I mean, it's a hard job to tellthe president no, but the law
is the law and I would expectfrom him, as I would from Pam
Bondi, that they would be honestand truthful with the president
when it comes to those redlines.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, look that.
Look on her face right there.
That's all of us right now.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He just gave us the bullshit.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So much for that hurdle about appointing, you
know, an acting FBI director.
Cash Mattel is going to getconfirmed by the Senate in all
likelihood.
So really, in reality, whatChris W Ray did here was concede
in advance.
He obeyed in advance.
He knew he was going to getfired, so he was like well, let
me just go ahead and step out ofhere, not cause a ruckus, and
save Trump the political damageof firing yet another FBI
(05:57):
director, which would have beena far bigger hurdle for Trump
than simply a Senateconfirmation hearing for Cash
Patel.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I read something that Ray did.
It means that, like someunderperson of him or something
is going to be acting and thathe has to go through some
additional process.
I can't even remember what itwas, but their perspective was
that what Christopher Ray didwas like kind of throw a wrench
(06:26):
into Trump's plans that's goingto delay Patel from being
immediately being able to beconfirmed, and there will be
someone else in Wray's position,because that's the way things
are written or how the protocolis or something like that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, there's a process when the FBI director
resigns.
Before there can be Basicallyit'll, it would have to be an
employee that replaces him.
It's been working at the FBIfor 90 days or so.
Cash Patel doesn't have that onhis resume.
He's not currently employed bythe FBI.
So the hurdle there is OK, toavoid Trump being able to
(07:07):
install him as acting directorwhen they have to go through
Senate confirmation, but againthat's going to happen.
So really, like, whoever putthat spin and I'm sure, like you
know, that motivation came fromI'm assuming Ray's people came
from I'm assuming Ray's peoplebecause you know there was an
article about that where theytalked to some of his staff, I
(07:29):
would imagine, and I'm sure thestaff put that message out.
But really what this is is Rayrolling over.
No, make Trump fire.
You Make it a mess.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Exactly, exactly, do it anyway.
But what does it mean?
We have to make it easy for him, absolutely, absolutely.
Um, and speaking of rollingover and obeying in advance, abc
settled a lawsuit, uh,involving defamation of trump,
where, uh, I forgot his fuckingname.
Well, so one of abc's hostssaid on numerous, in numerous
instances that Trump was foundguilty of rape, which is again
(08:10):
so legally speaking, intechnical terms.
Here, trump is not aadjudicated rapist, he's an
adjudicated sexual assaulter.
But the term that the hostHughes basically accused Trump
of outright being a rapist,trump decided to sue ABC in
terms of a defamation lawsuit.
(08:31):
That lawsuit was settled for$15 million.
But one of the things ABC couldhave pointed to, had they
deposed Trump and took it totrial, is the fact that the
judge himself in that case saidin common parlance, basically,
that Trump is an adjudicatedrapist.
Uh, but yeah, georgestephanopoulos basically quoted
(08:59):
the judge and saying that, hey,this is, you know, in the way
that normal people would put ittrump is a rapist because, it
and look.
So in the case.
If you don't remember, thedelineating factor here was that
eg and carol could notdetermine whether or not she was
penetrated by Trump's fingersor his penis, and that is the
(09:21):
reason why Trump was foundliable for sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But I assure you, sexual abuse is not a flex Like.
I was only you know, convictedof sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know, I only found guilty of sexual abuse.
Like okay how did we get to thepoint we're arguing over this?
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That shit is just wild to me.
And 15 million dollars, that'sthat's.
That's not going to no library,it's a bribe.
They gave it to him, they saidout loud that it's for the
library, but it just went in hispocket and they're hoping that
he won't stick the fcc on them.
But everything was on theirside.
So I don't, I don't really.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's the thing Right.
So, in all likelihood, theywould have won this case because
, first of all, trump is apublic figure.
There are different rules thatapply in terms of defamation
when it comes to public figures.
Also, abc is a news entity andtrump would have to prove actual
malice, which, apart from whatwe saw in that fox news suit,
(10:22):
it's extraordinarily difficultto prove.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
but they were just outright spreading lies and they
, yeah, and not even going nowif during the deposition they
felt like things weren't goingto go their way after, like
that's, that's something likeokay yeah, then that's the time
to settle after the defamation,exactly like fox settled after
all that shit came out, afterall the discovery tucker's text
(10:46):
messages and emails and all thatI hate trump and this, this,
this and blah, blah, blah.
And then they were like, okay,yeah, yeah yeah, but what this?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
what this was was abc attempting to pay out money to
trump in order to avoid hiswrath now that he's been elected
president guess what?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
there you never the thing is with trump.
You never know what it is you'regoing to do.
Look what he's doing with cbs,and I hope cbs doesn't, cbs, not
cbs, cbs doesn't cave, whatWith the 60 Minutes interview,
and, and so I'm hoping that theystick to their guns, because
(11:26):
ABC just lost all credibilityand I mean they were never going
to have credibility with MAGA,because they don't watch
anything other than right-wingnews but all of their viewers
who rely on them, and I, likestefanopoulos, as a journalist
and as a reporter, so this was,I mean, I know I wouldn't say I
(11:47):
like him, but in terms of like,if you're, if you're comparing
him to fox news, he's fair thebar is where the bar is fair
enough at this point and so atleast he has a note of
seriousness about him, and hehas, and he does a fucking
snowflake, then he's going tothreaten to go after you again
after the settlement, where youcan't trust them to not
(12:08):
pre-screen everything that theirhost and their media outlet
(12:40):
presents to the public in orderto appease Trump right.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's almost as if now you can only assume that
they're not going to report onanything that Trump might find
offensive, because they don'twant to be faced with another
lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But gonna.
It's gonna go beyond trumpbecause it's going to extend the
musk.
It's going to extend to anyonein trump world.
It's going to extend to hisson-in-law getting another two
billion dollars from the saudis.
It's going to extend to anyfuckery that any of his
appointees get into in asia.
(13:15):
Fucking tom Barrick is going tobe ambassador of Turkey.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean, this motherfucker was conspiring with
the damn UAE and and writingTrump's speeches, you know, and
it was indicted for being aforeign, a foreign agent yeah,
and so the question you have toask yourselves from here on out
is is ABC even going to betelling us not only the truth,
(13:43):
but everything they know?
Are they going to kill storiesbefore they come out just to
avoid Trump's wrath?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
They're going to be sitting around eating
Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I wouldn't say that They'll be in the middle.
They'll be where CNN is.
They'll be, you know, halfwaybetween dipping their foot in
the journalist and journalism,journalistic integrity, while
also trying to prevent you knowany kind of, you know any kind
of is it keeps coming back to donot obey in advance.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You've got to put as many hurdles in front of this
dude as possible, because when,when you submit to him without
him having to force you, whatyou're doing is training him
with what he can get away withdoing and emboldening him to do
more of it, exactly, and thenyou're setting the stage for
everybody else and you're justdid a complete disservice to
everybody.
You know it was like when I wasa kid other media and my
granddaddy would say I don'tcare you, you know you pick up
whatever you need to pick up.
And you know, maybe they twiceas big as you.
You may may not win, but thatmotherfucker ain't going to win
either.
You know what I mean.
You know what I'm saying.
(15:00):
It's like okay, I might lose,but you're going to lose
something too.
Okay, it might be a tooth, itmight be, we're going to figure
that out but I'm not going tomake it easy for you.
I'm not going to make it easyfor you.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And then ABC.
I mean, I don't know how thecompany necessarily feels about
this, but ABC has an obligationto stand up to Trump in this
regard in order to protect theentire media industry.
Right, because if he can dothis to ABC, who will he not
feel empowered to do thisagainst in the event of another
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hour reporting, something thatTrump doesn't like?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean he already failed when he tried to sue CNN.
He's going to fail.
Trying to sue CBS, he's goingto fail.
He really doesn't have a greatlitigious record in anything, in
anything, and it's notdifficult to blow his shit apart
, because it's usually contrivedand just ridiculous, you know?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
yeah, I mean and, and as far as like public standing
goes, they probably would havegained a larger audience taking
this to court and beating trumpthan just paying the 15 million
dollars and hoping trump goesaway exactly nothing you can do
in that.
I mean, it's nothing we cannecessarily do in that regard.
But hey look, you know.
So I've had a Secret Serviceduring Trump's administration
(16:23):
show up at my house.
It didn't shut me the fuck up.
Come on, abc, girl spy.
But continuing along with thetheme of obeying in advance,
msnbc hosted Trump yet again foran interview last weekend on
meet the press with, uh, kristinwalker.
She is, uh, I wouldn'tnecessarily call her a trump
(16:47):
apologist, but she is definitelya trump sane washer.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
She goes out of her way largely to try and make
trump seem as normal and thequestion she asked him, or so
you like a lawyer's like leadingthe witness, like that's all I
can think about when I'mlistening to her.
And then I'm thinking in mymind I'm like why the fuck are
you asking that question?
Like why, why are you answeringthat question?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, of all the things they could talk about.
Just generally speaking, in thelast two interviews she's done
a piss poor job ineditorializing and asking
probing questions, but she didget Trump on.
She spoke about a number oftopics.
We have a clip for you aboutTrump speaking on how he won the
2020.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I won on two things the border and more than
immigration they like to sayimmigration.
I break it down more to theborder.
But I won on the border and Iwent on groceries.
It's a very simple word,groceries Like almost you know
who uses the word.
I started using the word thegroceries.
When you buy apples, when youbuy bacon, when you buy eggs,
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they would double and triple theprice over a short period of
time and I won an election basedon that.
We're going to bring thoseprices way down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I want to pause here because and now for the record,
since that interview, trump hasbasically said once prices go up
, it's hard to get him down andhe doesn't have a plan.
So congratulations on everyonewho voted for trump.
Uh, he lied to your faces.
He told you he was going to dothings that he absolutely could
not do, or even if he thought hecould do, he has no plan when I
(18:18):
listen to him and I listen tothat every interview only thing
that goes in my head was thathe's just bragging in that.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Not that he's gonna do shit about it, but basically
saying all I had to do was usethe word grocery and I won.
All I had to do was say borderand I won.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But I mean, look at his face no, he said we won on
border and we won on grocery, sobasically he was like I just
kept repeating those two wordsyes, and we won he's patting
himself on the back for sayingwords to win an election without
actually having any kind ofplan or policy to do so.
Speaking of grocery.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I was the first one to use that word.
The way he speaks is justutterly insane as well, it's
like like a three year old thatcouldn't believe that all they
had to do was like stomp theirfeet a little bit.
It was like she gave me cake.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There you go.
I'm out of here and going alongwith that theme of absolutely
having no plan whatsoever tohelp the American people.
Trump has also asked about hishealth care plan, and well, you
know, you can imagine theresponse here.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
And then he voted against.
Nobody understands.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Sir, you said during the campaign you had concepts of
a plan.
Do you have an actual plan atthis point for healthcare?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yes, we have concepts of a plan that would be better.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Still just concepts.
Do you have a fully developedplan?
Let me explain.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
We have the biggest healthcare companies looking at
it.
We have doctors we're alwayslooking because Obamacare stinks
, it's lousy.
There are better answers.
If we come up with a betteranswer, I would present that
answer to Democrats and toeverybody else and I do
something about it.
But until we have that, oruntil they can approve it, but
(20:04):
we're not going to go throughthe big deal, I am the one that
saved Obamacare.
I will say, and I did the rightthing.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Actually, John McCain was the deciding vote in saying
that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Which is why he hated him Right.
And talked about him even afterhe was dead, which you know
according to Meghan McCain Billhates him because he saved the
Affordable Care Act, but he'slike I got the biggest
healthcare companies looking ata plan for healthcare.
Yeah, okay, bud.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, as he said, there, hedoesn't have a plan, he's just
talking to people, which is, youknow, talking is what he does.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, when we have it , we'll present it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, he's only had eight years now.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
He's had eight years.
Now he's had eight years he's,he still only has concepts of a
plan.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
These things take time.
D and again, you know,considering the state of the
public sentiment towards healthcare companies, specifically
health insurance companies, hemight want to get on that before
someone realizes that he'sabout to become the CEO of the
United States, of the UnitedStates, but also Trump spoke on
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Kristen Welker's show about hisplans for deportation in this
specific regard on birthrights.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Let me ask you about some of your other promises on
this topic.
You promised to end birthrightcitizenship on day one.
Is that still your plan?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
The 14th Amendment, though, says that quote all
persons born in the UnitedStates are citizens.
Can you get around the 14thAmendment with?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
an executive action.
We're going to have to change.
We'll maybe have to go back tothe people, but we have to end
it.
We're the only country that hasit.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Through an executive action.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
We're the only country that has it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Actually, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
America is one of you know 30 plus states 33 that
have um on without anyconditions 72 total.
Yeah, so there are some thathave um because I went through
the list, right, yeah that'slike okay, if you've been here
for five years, or if you arehere, or um, like if you're an
orphan and you don't have likeparents right you know, like
maybe some, maybe some Ukrainiankids or some, for whatever
reason or whatever you're, youget citizenship.
So I mean they have differentconditions, but they do have a
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type of birthright.
Citizenship is what theyconsider it too.
But it's like 72 total, but 33that are pretty much like us.
You're born on their soil.
You're that, you're theirs, arepretty much like us.
You're born on their soil.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
You're that, you're theirs, yeah right.
So you know, for everyone whowas saying Trump was only going
to go after illegal quoteunquote immigrants, First of all
he's going after illegalimmigration by trying to end a
constitutional right and also inthe interview, he did also
specify that like he plans ondeporting American citizens as
well if they're related to uh,you know, undocumented
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immigrants and he says tps, thathe's gonna the tps is wrong,
even though he had more tpsimmigrants and petition the uh
department to raise the numberof the people like.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He's just so full of shit.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm just yeah, absolutely full of shit.
But yes, he's planning onseparating families and
practically extorting Americancitizens into leaving the
(23:27):
country.
If so, I guess they're going toget what they're going to get.
And for everyone who said thathe wasn't absolutely serious
about his mass deportation plans, I think we've had 20 plus
Republican senators, or ratherRepublican governors, step up
and say they're willing to usethe powers of their states to
help assist him, and why is hestarting in Chicago?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Because if Texas is, so upset, then why doesn't he
start in Texas?
I mean, greg Abbott is besidehimself and round up immigrants
in, you know, say Texas, florida, etc.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
So he definitely doesn't want to do anything to
harm those states, so they'llstart with the inner city Blue
States in this regard is a wayto he's basically looking for an
opportunity to use the federalI'm assuming you know federal
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government agencies like theDepartment of Homeland Security,
to threaten blue states.
I mean, there'd be nothingworse than like, say, the idea
of you know red states offeringup their National Guard to
assist with mass deportation andthen Trump deploying those
National Guard troops in bluestates in order to terrorize
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those states.
I mean, I'm sure that'ssomething that's probably coming
.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
That's just really all they want to do, because you
know all they talk about isChicago.
So that's you know.
I thought he was going to startin Springfield.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I thought he was going to start in Aurora.
He doesn't care about that.
That was just shit.
He was saying to try and winthe election, just like saying
groceries right, like he has noreal plans.
He does not care about Haitianimmigrants in Springfield.
That's not his concern.
His concern is aboutterrorizing the public and going
(25:35):
after blue states because amajority of people there do not
vote for him.
That's his major concern.
And again, look just theprospects of actually rounding
up as many people as they wouldlike know, 10, 15, 20 million
people.
Uh, it's nigh impossible.
And then just like the odds ofhim even being able to deport a
(25:58):
million people a year.
It's, it's unfathomable.
Again, because you, theircountries, have to accept these
people and we don't haveagreements with a lot of
countries, but not that, but youhave to detain those people.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So they're like oh, it's going to cost this amount
of money to deport them.
Yes, but how much is it goingto cost to detain them before
you're able to deport them?
How many planes?
Where are you going to getthese planes?
You know what I mean.
How many planes?
Even a big jumbo jet has what?
Three to five hundred peoplemax.
You're talking about a millionpeople a year, and then it's
(26:31):
impossible already you knowbuilding these little secret
prisons, and then the wholereason that they're in Chicago
is because Greg Abbott bust themthere.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And then you're in prison in Texas.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So Greg Abbott spent two hundred and twenty one
million dollars of Texastaxpayer money to ship these
people to places like Chicagoand New York and dump them there
.
Then Trump is going to roundthem up and send them back to.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Texas.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, and a lot of people, eventhough this endeavor is certain
to fail, at least in terms ofthe expectations that he's laid
out for his supporters.
Like it will be hugely damaging, for sure, but a lot of people
are also going to make asignificant amount of money from
government contracts.
Engaging in this and again,like we hate to go back to the
(27:17):
Nazis in Germany, but I mean,this is what they found out.
They tried to round up a bunchof Jewish people and deport them
to other countries.
They found it was nearlyfucking impossible, even with
the amount you know, the trainsystem that they have in Germany
and in Europe and the solutionthat they no pun intended.
The solution that they came towas concentration camps and once
(27:38):
you know, they had X amount ofprisoners detained in these
camps.
The solution to that wasbecause it's expensive to
maintain this.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Also, you had to make room because it was a constant
flow of people that you wereputting on those trains to
Auschwitz and Birkenau, so youhad to get rid of them someday.
Yeah, what happened to them, ty.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Where did they go?
Where did?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
they go what?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
happened to them, the furnaces, yeah.
So I mean again, like foreveryone who's tired of-.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, they's already gassing people in Alabama, so I
guess different, under adifferent context and entirely.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
but yes, point taken, a point taken, so um the last
no remind.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
remember Bahamas sent him a letter and told him to
fuck off.
He tried to.
He said yo drop some folks offhere Now.
Never mind you, I'm going todrop folks off that I just spent
the last year saying wererapists and murderers.
Would you take him Like he's?
He didn't even like these arehardworking people but they're
(28:42):
illegal.
Will you take him?
He's like these are rapists andmurderers?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We don't want them, my God.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Complexions is Haitians, ain't y'all the same,
you know?
And then, but look at me, isthat he called Trinidad and
Tobago.
They also told him to no wait.
I missed that it was three, itwas three countries, it was
Panama.
They got 30 whole people inPanama they probably got a
(29:08):
hundred people in Panama, theBahamas and Trinidad and Tobago
combined.
They're so goddamn tiny.
But yeah, but they all told himto kick rocks.
And now he says any country thatwon't accept his deportation
planes, he's going to sanctionthem and US won't do business
with them.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh, he's probably not lying about that he's sending
everybody to bricks?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, I look.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And just the idea of him thinking like the British
did once upon a time.
I'm just going to driveeverybody off on an island out
here in the ocean.
This is insane.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well then he needs to look for an island Maybe one of
them islands that the fuckingvolcanoes made or something, and
just turn it into a newAustralia.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Or the island he's likely most familiar with
Epstein's Island.
but whatever yeah, ignore, we don't.
We're not going down the demonrabbit hole with these, just
that's.
That's a conversation fortwitter or whatever.
That's not.
Oh, we ain't doing that.
What up yo we have.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
El paso has its first black mayor.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Congratulations uh, we couldn't get our first black
president, but we got our firstblack mayor of El Paso.
Yeah, renard.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Johnson.
I've known him for about 30something years, him and his
brother Shay.
His brother was more my age, hewas our, our age, but but yeah,
it's so crazy because I, like,I've known him for a long time.
Beto endorsed him and he blewout his.
It went to a runoff.
(00:49):
Even though he blew out BrianKennedy, neither one got 50% of
the vote, so it had to go to arunoff.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So that was yesterday .
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And then Brian Kennedy conceded.
Good job, I mean, and I thinkTulsa got their first black
mayor in what like over 100years or something like that.
So you know we doing it up.
Finally, it's about the time.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, which is crazy because you know, el Paso is 80
percent Latino, so that's huge.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's a big deal.
So I'm super proud, though youknow proud moment.
We'll see what happens.
Well, I got to tell you localelections are where it's going
to be at for a minute here,because we got to ride the shit
out for the next few years.
That's where we're going tohave to make all our moves.
It's going to be locally.
Yeah, that's it One two, three,four.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Hey, this is D-Night, this is Ty, and Carol is on
permanent hiatus as she plans toflee the country once Trump
takes power.
And you're listening to thecall in the insurrection podcast
, uh, where we're not excitedthat polio is back, or at least
it's on its way back if, uh, youknow, rfk jr gets confirmed as
trump's health secretary becausehe wants to ban the polio
(01:56):
vaccine.
Um, you're excited about that.
Congratulations, you voted forthe right guy.
I would imagine that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's why people I don't think they understand
You're not voting for Trump.
You will be voting foreverybody that will come with
him.
He's not going to be the samepeople that would that were
there the first time, that atleast somewhat had some
credibility and at least someexperience.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
At the offset he tried to make it look like a
cabinet of you know, formidablepeople yeah, I mean the level of
qualifications, which wasalready stretched to the limit
in the first administration, uh,that's going to be totally
obliterated.
We're going to have tons andtons of inexperienced,
(02:41):
unqualified, if not outrightdangerous people taking powerful
positions.
But I mean, that's what you getwith the Trump administration.
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But yes, speaking of Trump'sincoming administration,
christopher Wray, current FBIdirector that was appointed by
Trump during his first term,announced that he would be
resigning at the end of Biden'sterm, setting the stage for none
(03:24):
other than Kash Patel, trump'syou know hit man at this point,
who has his own personal enemylist to become FBI director.
Now I know a lot of people outthere saying, hey, you know
there's some rules about.
You know when the FBI directorresigns and what that means for
his replacement, and, in effect,this will mean that Trump will
(03:45):
have to have his FBI directorSenate confirmed.
That's a small hurdle and likeRepublicans are probably going
to line up behind Cash Patel, asunqualified as he is.
He doesn't have anything on hisresume in terms of like
criminal indictments or rapeaccusations.
Like Pete Hexeth.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I think we did this all wrong.
See, the more we don't wantCash Patel, the more they're
going to want him and they'regoing to confirm him.
So what we should have donewith every pick was be like cool
, you're trying to reversepsychology.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, yeah, you know they're not the brightest.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And reverse psychology yeah, yeah, they're
not the brightest, and so theyonly know like one mode well,
two modes on the libs, and ifthe libs say yes, we say no, and
vice versa.
So I think we should have.
We're going to have to rememberthat next time to be like ooh
Cash, I couldn't think of abetter choice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's quite funny.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're ready.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Let Well, here we have a video of Senator John
Cornyn talking about this.
Very quickly, I had a goodmeeting with Kash Patel, the
nominee for FBI director.
We still don't know whatDirector Wray's plans are, but
eventually I assume that MrPatel will be confirmed as the
next FBI director.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Are you comfortable that he's going to?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
be able to stand up to Trump?
Well, I think that's a fairquestion to ask.
I mean, it's a hard job to tellthe president no, but the law
is the law and I would expectfrom him, as I would from Pam
Bondi, that they would be honestand truthful with the president
when it comes to those redlines.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, look that.
Look on her face right there.
That's all of us right now.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He just gave us the bullshit.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So much for that hurdle about appointing, you
know, an acting FBI director.
Cash Mattel is going to getconfirmed by the Senate in all
likelihood.
So really, in reality, whatChris W Ray did here was concede
in advance.
He obeyed in advance.
He knew he was going to getfired, so he was like well, let
me just go ahead and step out ofhere, not cause a ruckus, and
save Trump the political damageof firing yet another FBI
(05:57):
director, which would have beena far bigger hurdle for Trump
than simply a Senateconfirmation hearing for Cash
Patel.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I read something that Ray did.
It means that, like someunderperson of him or something
is going to be acting and thathe has to go through some
additional process.
I can't even remember what itwas, but their perspective was
that what Christopher Ray didwas like kind of throw a wrench
(06:26):
into Trump's plans that's goingto delay Patel from being
immediately being able to beconfirmed, and there will be
someone else in Wray's position,because that's the way things
are written or how the protocolis or something like that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, there's a process when the FBI director
resigns.
Before there can be Basicallyit'll, it would have to be an
employee that replaces him.
It's been working at the FBIfor 90 days or so.
Cash Patel doesn't have that onhis resume.
He's not currently employed bythe FBI.
So the hurdle there is OK, toavoid Trump being able to
(07:07):
install him as acting directorwhen they have to go through
Senate confirmation, but againthat's going to happen.
So really, like, whoever putthat spin and I'm sure, like you
know, that motivation came fromI'm assuming Ray's people came
from I'm assuming Ray's peoplebecause you know there was an
article about that where theytalked to some of his staff, I
(07:29):
would imagine, and I'm sure thestaff put that message out.
But really what this is is Rayrolling over.
No, make Trump fire.
You Make it a mess.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Exactly, exactly, do it anyway.
But what does it mean?
We have to make it easy for him, absolutely, absolutely.
Um, and speaking of rollingover and obeying in advance, abc
settled a lawsuit, uh,involving defamation of trump,
where, uh, I forgot his fuckingname.
Well, so one of abc's hostssaid on numerous, in numerous
instances that Trump was foundguilty of rape, which is again
(08:10):
so legally speaking, intechnical terms.
Here, trump is not aadjudicated rapist, he's an
adjudicated sexual assaulter.
But the term that the hostHughes basically accused Trump
of outright being a rapist,trump decided to sue ABC in
terms of a defamation lawsuit.
(08:31):
That lawsuit was settled for$15 million.
But one of the things ABC couldhave pointed to, had they
deposed Trump and took it totrial, is the fact that the
judge himself in that case saidin common parlance, basically,
that Trump is an adjudicatedrapist.
Uh, but yeah, georgestephanopoulos basically quoted
(08:59):
the judge and saying that, hey,this is, you know, in the way
that normal people would put ittrump is a rapist because, it
and look.
So in the case.
If you don't remember, thedelineating factor here was that
eg and carol could notdetermine whether or not she was
penetrated by Trump's fingersor his penis, and that is the
(09:21):
reason why Trump was foundliable for sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But I assure you, sexual abuse is not a flex Like.
I was only you know, convictedof sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know, I only found guilty of sexual abuse.
Like okay how did we get to thepoint we're arguing over this?
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That shit is just wild to me.
And 15 million dollars, that'sthat's.
That's not going to no library,it's a bribe.
They gave it to him, they saidout loud that it's for the
library, but it just went in hispocket and they're hoping that
he won't stick the fcc on them.
But everything was on theirside.
So I don't, I don't really.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's the thing Right.
So, in all likelihood, theywould have won this case because
, first of all, trump is apublic figure.
There are different rules thatapply in terms of defamation
when it comes to public figures.
Also, abc is a news entity andtrump would have to prove actual
malice, which, apart from whatwe saw in that fox news suit,
(10:22):
it's extraordinarily difficultto prove.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
but they were just outright spreading lies and they
, yeah, and not even going nowif during the deposition they
felt like things weren't goingto go their way after, like
that's, that's something likeokay yeah, then that's the time
to settle after the defamation,exactly like fox settled after
all that shit came out, afterall the discovery tucker's text
(10:46):
messages and emails and all thatI hate trump and this, this,
this and blah, blah, blah.
And then they were like, okay,yeah, yeah yeah, but what this?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
what this was was abc attempting to pay out money to
trump in order to avoid hiswrath now that he's been elected
president guess what?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
there you never the thing is with trump.
You never know what it is you'regoing to do.
Look what he's doing with cbs,and I hope cbs doesn't, cbs, not
cbs, cbs doesn't cave, whatWith the 60 Minutes interview,
and, and so I'm hoping that theystick to their guns, because
(11:26):
ABC just lost all credibilityand I mean they were never going
to have credibility with MAGA,because they don't watch
anything other than right-wingnews but all of their viewers
who rely on them, and I, likestefanopoulos, as a journalist
and as a reporter, so this was,I mean, I know I wouldn't say I
(11:47):
like him, but in terms of like,if you're, if you're comparing
him to fox news, he's fair thebar is where the bar is fair
enough at this point and so atleast he has a note of
seriousness about him, and hehas, and he does a fucking
snowflake, then he's going tothreaten to go after you again
after the settlement, where youcan't trust them to not
(12:08):
pre-screen everything that theirhost and their media outlet
(12:40):
presents to the public in orderto appease Trump right.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's almost as if now you can only assume that
they're not going to report onanything that Trump might find
offensive, because they don'twant to be faced with another
lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But gonna.
It's gonna go beyond trumpbecause it's going to extend the
musk.
It's going to extend to anyonein trump world.
It's going to extend to hisson-in-law getting another two
billion dollars from the saudis.
It's going to extend to anyfuckery that any of his
appointees get into in asia.
(13:15):
Fucking tom Barrick is going tobe ambassador of Turkey.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean, this motherfucker was conspiring with
the damn UAE and and writingTrump's speeches, you know, and
it was indicted for being aforeign, a foreign agent yeah,
and so the question you have toask yourselves from here on out
is is ABC even going to betelling us not only the truth,
(13:43):
but everything they know?
Are they going to kill storiesbefore they come out just to
avoid Trump's wrath?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
They're going to be sitting around eating
Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I wouldn't say that They'll be in the middle.
They'll be where CNN is.
They'll be, you know, halfwaybetween dipping their foot in
the journalist and journalism,journalistic integrity, while
also trying to prevent you knowany kind of, you know any kind
of is it keeps coming back to donot obey in advance.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You've got to put as many hurdles in front of this
dude as possible, because when,when you submit to him without
him having to force you, whatyou're doing is training him
with what he can get away withdoing and emboldening him to do
more of it, exactly, and thenyou're setting the stage for
everybody else and you're justdid a complete disservice to
everybody.
You know it was like when I wasa kid other media and my
granddaddy would say I don'tcare you, you know you pick up
whatever you need to pick up.
And you know, maybe they twiceas big as you.
You may may not win, but thatmotherfucker ain't going to win
either.
You know what I mean.
You know what I'm saying.
(15:00):
It's like okay, I might lose,but you're going to lose
something too.
Okay, it might be a tooth, itmight be, we're going to figure
that out but I'm not going tomake it easy for you.
I'm not going to make it easyfor you.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And then ABC.
I mean, I don't know how thecompany necessarily feels about
this, but ABC has an obligationto stand up to Trump in this
regard in order to protect theentire media industry.
Right, because if he can dothis to ABC, who will he not
feel empowered to do thisagainst in the event of another
(15:34):
hour reporting, something thatTrump doesn't like?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean he already failed when he tried to sue CNN.
He's going to fail.
Trying to sue CBS, he's goingto fail.
He really doesn't have a greatlitigious record in anything, in
anything, and it's notdifficult to blow his shit apart
, because it's usually contrivedand just ridiculous, you know?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
yeah, I mean and, and as far as like public standing
goes, they probably would havegained a larger audience taking
this to court and beating trumpthan just paying the 15 million
dollars and hoping trump goesaway exactly nothing you can do
in that.
I mean, it's nothing we cannecessarily do in that regard.
But hey look, you know.
So I've had a Secret Serviceduring Trump's administration
(16:23):
show up at my house.
It didn't shut me the fuck up.
Come on, abc, girl spy.
But continuing along with thetheme of obeying in advance,
msnbc hosted Trump yet again foran interview last weekend on
meet the press with, uh, kristinwalker.
She is, uh, I wouldn'tnecessarily call her a trump
(16:47):
apologist, but she is definitelya trump sane washer.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
She goes out of her way largely to try and make
trump seem as normal and thequestion she asked him, or so
you like a lawyer's like leadingthe witness, like that's all I
can think about when I'mlistening to her.
And then I'm thinking in mymind I'm like why the fuck are
you asking that question?
Like why, why are you answeringthat question?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, of all the things they could talk about.
Just generally speaking, in thelast two interviews she's done
a piss poor job ineditorializing and asking
probing questions, but she didget Trump on.
She spoke about a number oftopics.
We have a clip for you aboutTrump speaking on how he won the
2020.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I won on two things the border and more than
immigration they like to sayimmigration.
I break it down more to theborder.
But I won on the border and Iwent on groceries.
It's a very simple word,groceries Like almost you know
who uses the word.
I started using the word thegroceries.
When you buy apples, when youbuy bacon, when you buy eggs,
(17:50):
they would double and triple theprice over a short period of
time and I won an election basedon that.
We're going to bring thoseprices way down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I want to pause here because and now for the record,
since that interview, trump hasbasically said once prices go up
, it's hard to get him down andhe doesn't have a plan.
So congratulations on everyonewho voted for trump.
Uh, he lied to your faces.
He told you he was going to dothings that he absolutely could
not do, or even if he thought hecould do, he has no plan when I
(18:18):
listen to him and I listen tothat every interview only thing
that goes in my head was thathe's just bragging in that.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Not that he's gonna do shit about it, but basically
saying all I had to do was usethe word grocery and I won.
All I had to do was say borderand I won.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But I mean, look at his face no, he said we won on
border and we won on grocery, sobasically he was like I just
kept repeating those two wordsyes, and we won he's patting
himself on the back for sayingwords to win an election without
actually having any kind ofplan or policy to do so.
Speaking of grocery.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I was the first one to use that word.
The way he speaks is justutterly insane as well, it's
like like a three year old thatcouldn't believe that all they
had to do was like stomp theirfeet a little bit.
It was like she gave me cake.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There you go.
I'm out of here and going alongwith that theme of absolutely
having no plan whatsoever tohelp the American people.
Trump has also asked about hishealth care plan, and well, you
know, you can imagine theresponse here.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
And then he voted against.
Nobody understands.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Sir, you said during the campaign you had concepts of
a plan.
Do you have an actual plan atthis point for healthcare?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yes, we have concepts of a plan that would be better.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Still just concepts.
Do you have a fully developedplan?
Let me explain.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
We have the biggest healthcare companies looking at
it.
We have doctors we're alwayslooking because Obamacare stinks
, it's lousy.
There are better answers.
If we come up with a betteranswer, I would present that
answer to Democrats and toeverybody else and I do
something about it.
But until we have that, oruntil they can approve it, but
(20:04):
we're not going to go throughthe big deal, I am the one that
saved Obamacare.
I will say, and I did the rightthing.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Actually, John McCain was the deciding vote in saying
that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Which is why he hated him Right.
And talked about him even afterhe was dead, which you know
according to Meghan McCain Billhates him because he saved the
Affordable Care Act, but he'slike I got the biggest
healthcare companies looking ata plan for healthcare.
Yeah, okay, bud.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, as he said, there, hedoesn't have a plan, he's just
talking to people, which is, youknow, talking is what he does.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, when we have it , we'll present it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, he's only had eight years now.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
He's had eight years.
Now he's had eight years he's,he still only has concepts of a
plan.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
These things take time.
D and again, you know,considering the state of the
public sentiment towards healthcare companies, specifically
health insurance companies, hemight want to get on that before
someone realizes that he'sabout to become the CEO of the
United States, of the UnitedStates, but also Trump spoke on
(21:14):
Kristen Welker's show about hisplans for deportation in this
specific regard on birthrights.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Let me ask you about some of your other promises on
this topic.
You promised to end birthrightcitizenship on day one.
Is that still your plan?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
The 14th Amendment, though, says that quote all
persons born in the UnitedStates are citizens.
Can you get around the 14thAmendment with?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
an executive action.
We're going to have to change.
We'll maybe have to go back tothe people, but we have to end
it.
We're the only country that hasit.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Through an executive action.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
We're the only country that has it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Actually, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
America is one of you know 30 plus states 33 that
have um on without anyconditions 72 total.
Yeah, so there are some thathave um because I went through
the list, right, yeah that'slike okay, if you've been here
for five years, or if you arehere, or um, like if you're an
orphan and you don't have likeparents right you know, like
maybe some, maybe some Ukrainiankids or some, for whatever
reason or whatever you're, youget citizenship.
So I mean they have differentconditions, but they do have a
(22:18):
type of birthright.
Citizenship is what theyconsider it too.
But it's like 72 total, but 33that are pretty much like us.
You're born on their soil.
You're that, you're theirs, arepretty much like us.
You're born on their soil.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
You're that, you're theirs, yeah right.
So you know, for everyone whowas saying Trump was only going
to go after illegal quoteunquote immigrants, First of all
he's going after illegalimmigration by trying to end a
constitutional right and also inthe interview, he did also
specify that like he plans ondeporting American citizens as
well if they're related to uh,you know, undocumented
(22:51):
immigrants and he says tps, thathe's gonna the tps is wrong,
even though he had more tpsimmigrants and petition the uh
department to raise the numberof the people like.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He's just so full of shit.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm just yeah, absolutely full of shit.
But yes, he's planning onseparating families and
practically extorting Americancitizens into leaving the
(23:27):
country.
If so, I guess they're going toget what they're going to get.
And for everyone who said thathe wasn't absolutely serious
about his mass deportation plans, I think we've had 20 plus
Republican senators, or ratherRepublican governors, step up
and say they're willing to usethe powers of their states to
help assist him, and why is hestarting in Chicago?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Because if Texas is, so upset, then why doesn't he
start in Texas?
I mean, greg Abbott is besidehimself and round up immigrants
in, you know, say Texas, florida, etc.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
So he definitely doesn't want to do anything to
harm those states, so they'llstart with the inner city Blue
States in this regard is a wayto he's basically looking for an
opportunity to use the federalI'm assuming you know federal
(24:37):
government agencies like theDepartment of Homeland Security,
to threaten blue states.
I mean, there'd be nothingworse than like, say, the idea
of you know red states offeringup their National Guard to
assist with mass deportation andthen Trump deploying those
National Guard troops in bluestates in order to terrorize
(24:59):
those states.
I mean, I'm sure that'ssomething that's probably coming
.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
That's just really all they want to do, because you
know all they talk about isChicago.
So that's you know.
I thought he was going to startin Springfield.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I thought he was going to start in Aurora.
He doesn't care about that.
That was just shit.
He was saying to try and winthe election, just like saying
groceries right, like he has noreal plans.
He does not care about Haitianimmigrants in Springfield.
That's not his concern.
His concern is aboutterrorizing the public and going
(25:35):
after blue states because amajority of people there do not
vote for him.
That's his major concern.
And again, look just theprospects of actually rounding
up as many people as they wouldlike know, 10, 15, 20 million
people.
Uh, it's nigh impossible.
And then just like the odds ofhim even being able to deport a
(25:58):
million people a year.
It's, it's unfathomable.
Again, because you, theircountries, have to accept these
people and we don't haveagreements with a lot of
countries, but not that, but youhave to detain those people.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So they're like oh, it's going to cost this amount
of money to deport them.
Yes, but how much is it goingto cost to detain them before
you're able to deport them?
How many planes?
Where are you going to getthese planes?
You know what I mean.
How many planes?
Even a big jumbo jet has what?
Three to five hundred peoplemax.
You're talking about a millionpeople a year, and then it's
(26:31):
impossible already you knowbuilding these little secret
prisons, and then the wholereason that they're in Chicago
is because Greg Abbott bust themthere.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And then you're in prison in Texas.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So Greg Abbott spent two hundred and twenty one
million dollars of Texastaxpayer money to ship these
people to places like Chicagoand New York and dump them there
.
Then Trump is going to roundthem up and send them back to.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Texas.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, and a lot of people, eventhough this endeavor is certain
to fail, at least in terms ofthe expectations that he's laid
out for his supporters.
Like it will be hugely damaging, for sure, but a lot of people
are also going to make asignificant amount of money from
government contracts.
Engaging in this and again,like we hate to go back to the
(27:17):
Nazis in Germany, but I mean,this is what they found out.
They tried to round up a bunchof Jewish people and deport them
to other countries.
They found it was nearlyfucking impossible, even with
the amount you know, the trainsystem that they have in Germany
and in Europe and the solutionthat they no pun intended.
The solution that they came towas concentration camps and once
(27:38):
you know, they had X amount ofprisoners detained in these
camps.
The solution to that wasbecause it's expensive to
maintain this.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Also, you had to make room because it was a constant
flow of people that you wereputting on those trains to
Auschwitz and Birkenau, so youhad to get rid of them someday.
Yeah, what happened to them, ty.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Where did they go?
Where did?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
they go what?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
happened to them, the furnaces, yeah.
So I mean again, like foreveryone who's tired of-.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, they's already gassing people in Alabama, so I
guess different, under adifferent context and entirely.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
but yes, point taken, a point taken, so um the last
no remind.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
remember Bahamas sent him a letter and told him to
fuck off.
He tried to.
He said yo drop some folks offhere Now.
Never mind you, I'm going todrop folks off that I just spent
the last year saying wererapists and murderers.
Would you take him Like he's?
He didn't even like these arehardworking people but they're
(28:42):
illegal.
Will you take him?
He's like these are rapists andmurderers?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We don't want them, my God.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Complexions is Haitians, ain't y'all the same,
you know?
And then, but look at me, isthat he called Trinidad and
Tobago.
They also told him to no wait.
I missed that it was three, itwas three countries, it was
Panama.
They got 30 whole people inPanama they probably got a
(29:08):
hundred people in Panama, theBahamas and Trinidad and Tobago
combined.
They're so goddamn tiny.
But yeah, but they all told himto kick rocks.
And now he says any country thatwon't accept his deportation
planes, he's going to sanctionthem and US won't do business
with them.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh, he's probably not lying about that he's sending
everybody to bricks?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, I look.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And just the idea of him thinking like the British
did once upon a time.
I'm just going to driveeverybody off on an island out
here in the ocean.
This is insane.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well then he needs to look for an island Maybe one of
them islands that the fuckingvolcanoes made or something, and
just turn it into a newAustralia.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Or the island he's likely most familiar with
Epstein's Island.
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