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Speaker 1 (00:05):
so, in case you missed it, somehow mark
zuckerberg announced that therewill be some changes to meta
platforms, at least in terms ofmoderating social media, where
the restrictions on what you areallowed to say will be loosened
into the point where there'spractically no fact checking
whatsoever.
A disastrous, just a disastrouspolicy decision in terms of you
(00:30):
know, I think it's betterpublicly traded yeah, publicly
traded social media companymaking decision to just allow
free for all on their platformsHarmful to society in numerous
ways.
Platforms harmful to society innumerous ways.
I mean, there's a reason why,over the course of the past 20
years, every major platform thatoffers any kind of social
interaction largely has, youknow, and they've all landed on
(00:56):
the same general decision whenit comes to moderating user
posted content, and there's areason for that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I mean mean, if you don't do that, you will
eventually arrive at a place, uh, where your platform becomes
4chan, if not even more nazi,prevalent, and then that scares
away much, but it's so crazybecause did you see the article,
which was it um tech crunch, Ithink, and it was um how people
(01:23):
could delete their Facebook,their threads and their IG, but
how they could download alltheir data, their pictures and
basically archive it like youcan archive on Xchan?
But they were saying that therewas a meeting that they had on
(01:47):
what is acceptable, that uh, andwhat is, and there's a thing
and it says allow or deny whenit comes to like certain
comments, and they were like ohso you can direct comments at a
racial group, a freaking gendergroup for the lgbtq community.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
you can't directly attack a person yeah, but you
can attack the larger, but youcan, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You can say you can't say you're a nigger, but you
can say I hate, that's different, or?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
all gays are pedophiles.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yes, it's out of control.
So, yes, the way in whichpeople are allowed to comment on
marginalized communities onmeta platforms now is insane.
You can find numerous examplesof it, surprisingly, on Twitter,
because, again, that place isalso unmoderated, so those
comments don't get.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, even like the screenshots of comments on
those other platforms, I do wantto point out is that people act
like Zuckerberg, and Facebookhasn't been a cesspool for a
minute, it's just been in adifferent kind of fucking way.
I mean, they've allowed Russianbots to storm.
I mean, come on, cambridgeAnalytica.
(03:02):
We can never forget that shit.
So are we really surprised?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
no, zuckerberg's been in the bag of republicans since
2016 and I think largely thatis due to the idea that he
believes, um, you know,congressional regulate or just
regulation by the federalgovernment.
It will be harmful to hisbottom line.
But again, just capitalism, manlike.
Not everything needs tonecessarily-.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
His bottom line is like 3,000 leads under the sea.
He's a goddamn bitch.
Okay, but whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We have convinced ourselves as a nation that the
most important thing in life isto make as much money as
possible, even though only ahandful of Americans will ever
get remotely close to making asmuch money as possible.
And it's allowed a lot ofegregious and unsavory behavior
that is, at the end of the day,results in large negative
(03:58):
impacts for every singleAmerican in the world at large.
But again, american and theworld at large.
But again, I'm not going togive a dissertation on the evils
of unfettered capitalism, andthis is someone who's like yeah,
I'm largely pro-capitalism,except for in the extremes.
Right, it's great for people inthe middle, it is terrible for
people at the bottom and itawards an atrociously dangerous
(04:23):
amount of power and influence topeople at the top.
And you know we should.
I mean it's too late now, butwe should install some systems
to protect the people at thebottom and limit the people at
the top from having unbalancedand unfair influence.
And control.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, I mean just yes for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Too late, I mean, but you know, look, we've elected
the billionaire president Likehe's.
Elon Musk is who I'm speakingof now.
We've got President Elon Musk,which is man in America from
largely.
I mean, every once in a whilehe might trade places with Bezos
here and there and he'll beback up in a couple of months.
(05:10):
We've also got Vice PresidentTrump, trump, who is probably
now officially a billionaire.
I mean, I don't know what hisnet worth is on paper, but he's
probably, you know, by the timeyou balance in his losses and
all this debt.
Maybe a few years ago heprobably wasn't actually a
billionaire, but I'm sure he isnow, especially with all of the
all of the billionaires pouringmoney into his pocket and all of
the foreign connectionsinvolved investing in Trump's
(05:31):
companies.
And we've got numerous techbillionaires and other
billionaires sending millions ofdollars to him for his
inauguration, even though we'venever discovered what happened
to the funds from the inauguralhis inauguration in 2016, where
he raised over $120 million andhis inauguration looked like it
cost a fraction of that.
(05:52):
Never figured out where thatmoney went.
I'm assuming it was launderedinto shell companies that
eventually funneled the moneyand the funds back to him.
I mean we're about to have arepeat of that.
Hope someone's investigatingthat Mel.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
now Melania's got her own bag, her $40 million bag.
She's got her own money now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So Jeff Bezos is pouring $40 million directly
into Trump's pocket with thisbiographic.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I don't want to call it a biography Straight into
Melania's purse, and that washow he bribed her to be seen
with him more times, I think, inthe last two weeks.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
That's not what it is .
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We'll give you $40 million for this documentary.
That's probably not worth amillion if you'll go to the
White House.
Is that what it is?
So you don't embarrass Trump?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
With the Pornhub ban ban, how are maca gonna be able
to see the documentary?
Well, I live in tennessee and Ithink our our state supreme
court kind of overturned thatban, or at least um stated have
you seen tennessee?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
they live in tennessee all the motherfuckers
freaky.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I gotta tell you if, if, if dudes down here ain't
able to beat off, I would beconcerned about the impacts that
that might have on civil life,because dudes down here is they,
yeah, it's a lot going on.
Um, yeah, I don't know if you,if you all listening to this,
pay attention to tennesseepolitics, but it's insane down
(07:24):
here.
Like, I know, like, texas andflorida get a lot of attention
because they're huge, buttennessee is actually, I would
say, florida light, but floridais likely tennessee light in
that like, because theirinsanity gets so much attention,
they kind of take their footoff the gas pedal.
No, it's insane down here.
Buddy, now I live in a blue dotlike.
(07:46):
My city is awesome, uh, as aremost blue cities in in the south
.
They're largely, uh, you know,bastions of what you would like
society to largely be in in theformer confederate states.
But the rest of the state man,it's out of control and memphis
is its own beast, it's.
It is as different from therest of tennessee as atlanta is
(08:07):
from the rest of georgia.
I can't even describe.
Well, that's all right, so thatwhen I I don't participate in
that form of um, you know, Idon't participate in that form
of economic, so Tennessee isweirdly placed in that it is a
(08:31):
kind of a pit stop on the roadto other cities along the
eastern seaport and vice versa,in Florida and New York and
Michigan and Ohio and whatnot,in terms of trafficking of the
drugs.
Now I don't know what thecurrent drug prices go to.
Again, I'm not involved in thatmarket, but I can almost say
(08:54):
that's like 20 years.
I can certainly tell you youare not getting keys for 10 a
piece at this point in time.
Prices have gone up Now maybeif you're buying hundreds of
pounds you might can get it downto 15.
But I would suggest you noteven get yourself involved in
that endeavor.
It's a haphazard business.
(09:15):
The life expectancy in thatline of work is akin to being a
coal miner.
You might want to.
You might want to stay far fromthat.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You might live longer as a coal miner.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I would say in terms of like health benefits.
It's probably similar coalmining Anyway.
But Trump, rather PresidentBiden, had comments on Meta's
reversal in terms of platforming, liars and disinformation.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
On MECA's decision to end its fact-checking
operations in the United States.
Is that a good decision in your?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
opinion Well look, the whole idea of walking away
from fax checking as well as notreporting anything having to do
with discrimination regardingTPS, I find to be just contrary
(10:24):
to American Justice, american,the way we talk about one
another.
Telling the truth matters.
I mean it's.
I know I'm on nationaltelevision, but you all are
local reporters and nationalreporters, I'm not.
This is not a legit, realquestion.
(10:45):
But what do you think?
You think it doesn't matterthat they let be printed or
millions of people read it,things that are simply not true?
I mean, I I don't know whatthat's all about.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It's just completely contrary to everything america's
about mr biden, I can tell youwhat it's about If you rewind
the tape back to 1930s Germany.
One of I know we've been doinga lot of that lately and I'm
sorry to continue upon thistrack of comparing the Trump
administration to the Nazi partyof early 1930s Germany.
(11:21):
but Well, I mean, it tracks, ittracks, tracks so one of the
ways in which the nazi party wonan election, despite being a
minority party, and worked theirway all the way up to being not
only a controlling majority buta single party nation, is the
elimination of factualinformation being presented to
(11:43):
the public.
Dis Disinformation ran rampant.
They did a lot to encourage themedia to not only spread lies
and disinformation, but theyeventually just took outright
control of the entire mediaapparatus in Germany at the time
, which was largely radio andprint journalism.
I mean, you know, journalismworks differently in 2024.
(12:06):
Now we don't necessarily relyon journalistic outlets to
inform the country, but they doinform the people and
influencers who spread thatinformation.
And now this information willbe allowed to spread like
wildfire, the same way it did asthe Nazi party took power, and
you know, again, we saw how thatended Fingers crossed.
(12:28):
America doesn't end up followingthe same route.
But hey, look, we just had anelection where we had a
presidential candidate outrightquoting Hitler.
So don't know what to tell youin that regard.
But yeah, biden's right, it'sabsolutely disgusting, mark
Zuckerberg.
Not having his you knowmulti-billion dollar platforms
engage in some kind ofreasonable journalistic fact
(12:49):
checking when it comes to thespreading of false information
is just outright absurd.
But again, you know this iswhat happens.
This is what happens when youhave a Hitler-like figure or a
Putin-like figure.
Take power right.
Like figure, take power right.
The people understand that ifwe want to survive financially,
we either have to unite andfight that individual as a whole
(13:11):
or they're gonna have to buyhis affections, which never
really works.
It never works.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I mean appeasing addicted because look, even
after abc gave that 15 milliondollar, then brendan carr, the
fcc, and he was like, oh, hepaid that 15 million, so you
admitted you defamed him.
So now we have to look intothis like it's.
It's never, it's like what wedo not negotiate with terrorists
, like there's a reason for thatsaying you know what I'm saying
(13:37):
, I mean that, yes, thesentiment, the the factual
nature of negotiating withterrorists and as it pertains to
that statement is largelyoverblown, but the sentiment
stands.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
There's a reason it exists, because oftentimes
negotiating with terrorists ortrying to appease a dictator
just encourages the dictator orthe terrorist to ask for more
until there's no more left togive, at which point you become
expendable.
So yeah, or complicit.
There's also the point whereyou've poured so much time and
(14:09):
investment, financially andotherwise, into these unruly
figures that you becomecomplicit in their bad actions
and then it becomesextraordinarily difficult for
you to disentangle yourself fromengaging in further harm to
whatever party.
Yeah, good luck guys.
It's going to be rough outthere over the course of the
next four years.
I mean, I would imagine at somepoint like once they get
(14:31):
through working their way downfrom all of the important
political figures and harassingnews and media outlets and such
and such, they'll probably worktheir way back down to me in
utah okay, see how much time wehave.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'll get my pogrom go back.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, what do they wear?
What do we wear in the?
Do we get like the grayjumpsuits?
Do we get stripes?
Are we gonna get tattoos?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't want stripes, I think I'd rather have gray or
one of those like dingy brown.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh, like the the siberian russia jumpsuit, yeah
yeah, do we get.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We don't need grinder wear.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's that short solidarity, I'll take that and
we got her back, though she'slike I, you mean, I got escaped
russian captivity.
To come back to this shit, tothis American captivity.
At least we won't have to wearstars.
We're already marked by ourskin color, so we don't need the
(15:31):
extra accessories.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's going to be all we need.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
They don't have to mark us Just the pink mafia, the
rainbow mafia or yeah I I'msure there's someone listening
to this like you, guys arereally minimizing the harm
that's going to come to every.
No, we're we, we understand andwe're making light of it.
We are fully aware, I am we aremaking light of it in the sense
(16:00):
of In the sense.
Oh yeah, no, we, we, we canonly make light of it in the
sense that, as being part of ahistorically oppressed and
marginalized group, that we'reextraordinarily comfortable with
the idea that we just going tohave to tough it the fuck out.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's just that just how it is, exactly, exactly, and
that's what I said.
I'm like you know, you whitewomen no offense, white women
y'all about to fuck around andfind out.
And see me, yeah, I'm asufferer too, but I'm used to
being a marginalized class andsee, we always, we always live
(16:34):
on the edge of, we can go back,because they've always been
attacking us, regardless of theproblem we are constantly aware
of the fact that we might alwaysgo problem.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We are constantly.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We are constantly aware of the fact that we might
always go back years.
We are good, we're constantlylike living on that edge.
So like when I don't know if itwas called activism or uh, yeah
, I think it was called activismand then it was like you know,
what do you think about obama?
And sit next to trump, and thenpeople like, oh, look there,
(17:03):
and I and I said honestly, I'mindifferent, he's, he's, obama's
nothing if not gracious.
However, as a black person, Iknow what it's like to move in
in spaces and having to put onthat face and smile and laugh
when your co-worker tells thatn-word joke.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Obama is on the clock .
The people who are complainingabout Obama have never seen a
Black person on the clock.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah right, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
This is how we got to move and work.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
We survive jobs and dig in the fire.
Because when he comes in hegoes hey, what do you call a
Black guy that walks in a barand then something ends with the
n-word?
You're like ah, charles, thatwas a good one.
Like yeah, I mean, like youknow, we don't have a fucking
choice, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
People take this for granted, right.
So a majority of the blackpopulation in the united states
to this day still lives in thesouth right.
And do you understand?
Do they understand what thatmeans?
Probably not.
It means that black peoplehistorically for the past
hundred and we're going on what160, 70 years now have had to
learn through just multipleencounters with our former
(18:15):
oppressors how to navigatethrough life causing the least
amount of harm to ourselves andour communities.
And the distillation of thatcan be seen and keeping a job.
And keeping a job, even thoughthey, for the longest time,
wouldn't even allow us to havejobs, no matter how skilled we
were in any particular form oflabor or otherwise.
(18:36):
The distillation of thatprinciple can clearly be seen in
Obama sitting there at thefuneral of president carter and
having to yuck it up because,for unfortunate reasons, he got
sat next to trump because hiswife was out of.
She's out of the country, rightshe's in hawaii.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh okay, she's in hawaii.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, she's out of the country.
Yeah, she was otherwise.
She was otherwise occupied andunavailable to attend the
funeral.
Therefore, obama formerPresident Obama got seated next
to Trump and had to yuck it upfor the cameras, because the
country is watching and if hebehaved in a manner of which
(19:17):
most of us other black peoplewould likely engage in, if we
were to be forced to sit next totrump, it would cause a
spectacle, and the one thingobama ain't never done in his
entire life has caused nospectacle his cause is spectacle
exactly that ain't that didn'tengage or look stoic in any way.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It would have been angry black man see he's so
divisive.
It would have been let pit, letlet karen pence, let mother
take that heat.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, she's white, it's okay yeah, when a white
person don't want to shakekamala harris hand, people just
you know they boohoo it, butthey there's really no political
consequences when they're likewhat was he laughing about?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
you know, obama could have been laughing in his mind,
thinking.
This mother said that yeahright, he was laughing because
you know trump told him a hearty, hard, hard, like now on the
flip side.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Kamala harris did take a peek back there to look
at them like bro what are you?
Doing and you know what.
You know what obama did whenshe was looking he shut the fuck
up.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I'm gonna have to watch that again.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I didn't, it was it was like watching friday.
He, he obama was like she gavehim that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Uh, no, no, no, no, no, she gave him that debo look.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And obama was like debo be like shut the fuck up,
and I'd be quiet.
But when he, I'll be talkingagain.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I mean I?
I did love seeing mother.
Uh, just, she didn't even standup and ignore him, she sat down
, but I did love how George andLaura walked right back.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I had to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I rewound.
I rewound that clip like fivetimes because I was like did I
miss something?
Did I see what I just saw?
And it was like they were noteven there.
And then when pence was, whenmy mother was sitting down and
uh, I didn't know that they'dbeen married 44 years.
He doesn't look that that oldand I know that she was married
(21:17):
before, but because, but see,everybody keeps saying you know
well, what do you expect?
He tried to she, he tried tokill her husband oh, and her,
she was there exactly, that'sexactly my point, but they keep
leaving out.
She was there on january the 6thwith their young child for sure
who all three of them is likeno, you didn't just put my
(21:40):
husband, now fuck him.
You put my daughter in danger,my fucking child, because you
guys were like 40 feet away yeah, it really goes.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It really goes.
And said that pence's wholefamily was at the capitol on
january 6th and trump tried toalso have their murder.
Um, also, just quick notemelania's hair.
It looked like her hairdresseris joy taylor's hairdresser.
Like her hair, her hairdresser.
Her hairdresser was like I'mfiling a lawsuit and I'm out of
here.
I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know what the fuck was going on with her in
general, I mean because shealways just spends $400,000 a
year on her stylist.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But ain't got no style in her hair.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That whole, that that look, that, that it was like a
new version of the handmaid'stale, like she was like
promoting the new robes and suchthat we would have to wear at
that point the but I, I, I, I, Idon't get it, I don't.
And someone had pointed outwhatever that little design was
(22:44):
on her collar.
I guess someone had blown it up.
I don't know.
They didn't show the source,cause you know Derek, the guy,
he's always doing the breakdownon the fashion.
Yes, our, our, yes, our favoritefashion expert Blown it up and
it was this man, naked man andwoman embraced, and you know,
(23:05):
kind of one of those artsy,fartsy type but that you might
see in a museum, and then her,her titty was on him and her ass
cheeks was on the ground.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You could see her ass cheeks on the ground and I was
like wow, that was, that wassomething, but in her hair it
just looked like it looked likeKaren.
She looked like Karen Bass.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It was insane oh oh, in the Upside down program when
she was reading it.
Man that was bananas.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Barack Obama, having to show white people how to read
is just Incredible turn ofevents.
Alright Quickly before we getout of here, so In a total shit
from what we've been coveringpreviously on the podcast, drake
released a freestyle.
I did not personally release it.
I believe it was released onInstagram by way of the producer
(23:54):
.
That goes by the moniker.
The conductor isextraordinarily interesting.
It's called Fighting IrishFreestyle and it's noteworthy
for a couple of things.
We'll play that for you realquick.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I love.
You got tickets seem like theyloved every minute.
Just know, the shit is personalto us and it wasn't just
business.
Analyzing behavioral patternsis somewhat suspicious.
Niggas was never happy for mewhen I run up the digits or when
I'm breaking world recordsstill as I guzzle a Guinness, or
when I get my fifth made backbecause the color is different.
Remember, we traded watches.
I gave you the Arabic dial.
(24:46):
You gave me a numbered edition.
You would even check up on myson like a pediatrician.
Sure, convinced the gang thatshit was rooted in love when it
isn't.
Show me how different we are.
There's lessons injuxtaposition.
I guess now you boys got a bandof your summer tradition cold
shoulders.
I gave in a hamper as it comewith the distance figure.
We was always gonna be closelike ovens and kitchens.
I was sadly mistaken.
(25:07):
The loyalty wasn't a given.
It's all good and niggas crythe blues for you saying it
wasn't malicious Talking aboutwe family.
Well, I'm not the cousin tovisit.
God forbid we ever gottatarnish your public image.
All that brother talk as if Ireally discovered a sibling.
Six degrees my memoriesretrieving our humble beginnings
.
Niggas want to trouble.
(25:28):
Grab the shovel and dug up someditches Cover my body in dirt,
but that wasn't me.
That wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Not bad, Not bad Well it's something.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So, first of all, we're not going to do a literal
analysis on that, because that'snot.
We're not a rap podcast,although I do.
I am fond of the rap genre.
It is my favorite.
Although I do, I am fond of therap genre, it is my favorite.
I have actually written somesongs myself and you can check
those out on the Spotify orwhatever if you so choose,
d-night obviously, anyway.
(26:11):
So the course of 2024, in asong in which Kendrick Lamar
called Drake a PDF file I don'tknow that's how the YouTubers
tend to call it, but yes hebasically suggested that Drake
engages in sexual relations withunderage women.
Now, I don't particularly thinkthat Drake is a pedophile,
although like candidate.
So Drake is Canadian andCanadians are strange.
(26:34):
And also the age of consent, upthere is 17.
You can make of that what youwill.
That's not a defense of anyone.
Again, drake is almost 40,dating an adult.
But so one of the, in the midstof the aftermath of that battle,
kendrick Lamar held a concertthat was shown on Amazon Prime,
(26:54):
the pop out in LA, ken andFriends and whatnot, to which
LeBron attended, and he wasdancing along and singing at the
songs and looked like he wantedto hop on stage with Kendrick
Lamar, and if you're familiarwith Drake and LeBron's
relationship, they've been superbuddy-buddy for over a decade
now.
At this point, I think I thinkweirdly, drake has a tattoo of
LeBron James on him, somewhereon his arm.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Extraordinarily weird .
If you notice the title of thesong again, it's called Fighting
Irish Freestyle in reference toLeBron James' high school team,
which was the Irish.
So there's the connection.
There was the Irish.
So there's the connection there.
Of note, Drake is throwingnumerous shots at what he
perceives to be a fake friendwho was not down with him in the
(27:39):
midst of this beef and you know, depending on how you feel
about it, like if I was with myhomeboys and somebody dropped a
song and in the whole countrywas singing it and it was
calling me a pedophile and myhomie was out there at the
concert dancing around, you knowIG playing the dude songs, I
would feel some kind of way.
I feel like if that's the homiedog what are you doing?
(28:01):
Fair enough, but at the sametime.
If I'm a rapper and, like Ihave, also have a huge platform,
what I ain't going to do is cryabout it in a song in front of
the whole world in a way thateverybody knows exactly who I'm
talking about.
Now, in terms of the versesitself, like look, anyone who
(28:23):
hates Drake.
You're probably going to belike, oh Drake sucks.
Drake does not suck.
He has his flaws.
Even his rap, his music, hassome flaws, but largely that
song was you know, lyrically ithas the same thing every classic
Drake song has.
It's like 80% dope bars, 15%filler and then like 5% oh yeah,
(28:45):
that dude is from Canada,that's right when he just say
some weird shit, like I always.
I thought we'd always be close,like ovens and kitchens, bro,
ovens are in kitchens.
I don't.
Is that like a reference to youand LeBron being so close?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I don't know, maybe you should have said like
fridges and freezers.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't, yeah, that's see, that's what I'm talking
about, that is what.
I'm talking about that.
That is what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm saying rightthere.
You know, like we live inamerica and we make like normal
references where we understandlike the context of, even like a
metaphor, like close, like likelike fridges and freezers and
this dude is making a referencelike me and lebron are so close
(29:24):
that it's like lebron is in me.
I don't really that's not atitle like is someone who is not
a professional musician or anartist in that regard, but I do
understand like the basicconcepts of writing a song.
That is not a reference that Iwould have made and largely
that's because ovens are maybeovens and kitchens do things a
little different.
Man, maybe maybe ovens anddining rooms, like maybe your
(29:50):
dining room is adjacent to yourkitchen and that would have made
a look.
I don't understand that andlike so.
There is also a line in thesong where he's talking about I
don't, didn't want to have todirty your image and that could
be talking about a number ofpeople, but given that the song
is largely directed at hisrelationship with LeBron James,
he could be insisting that thereis probably some secrets or
(30:10):
dirty laundry in LeBron James.
He could be insisting thatthere is probably some secrets
or dirty laundry in LeBronJames's past.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
There's some tea out there, yes.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Now again, this is another, another issue of like
the difference between your.
I mean I don't know if there'sthat much of a difference, but
like where the normal Americanwill look at that and be like
dog.
Is you really out here about tospill the tea on the bronze
games?
No, you do not.
We do not snitch on the homies,even if they out here running
around with other women,whatever.
(30:37):
I'm sorry we just don't do itlike and look again.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm not saying whether that's right that's the
bitch shit like no, we don't dothat, no, we just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
They're just not like you, don't rat on your girls.
I'm sure there's like some kindof girl code that I may not be
familiar with because I'm not awoman, I don't know.
But like dudes just out hereain't ratting on dudes like that
.
And if you out here evensuggesting that you might
possibly do that in the song,that's the lamest possible shit
ever.
Now that started a rumor, wind,storm, firestorm on the
(31:12):
Internet about the possibilityof LeBron James stepping out on
his wife, and that was furtherfueled by some leaked dms
between Drake and anotherindividual, where he compared
his lawsuit against his recordlabel UMG, where he was accusing
them of inflating the streamsof his rival's song, the one
that called him a child molesterin all, generally speaking, him
and his crew.
(31:32):
He compared that to Nikeengaging in a campaign to paint
LeBron James out as a cheater,which is just a weird reference
to make for that to be at thetop of your mind when you're
even considering what thelawsuit is like.
So that led to even morespeculation.
And then we had none other thanDJ Academics.
(31:54):
If you're familiar with hiswork, he's a live streamer who
engages in well.
He covers music content in hisown particular way.
He had a few comments on thesituation surrounding LeBron
James and his wife and theirrelationship and their
activities that Drake and LeBronmight have engaged in in the
(32:16):
past.
And, jesus Christ man, this isout of control right now.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
News flash for LeBron .
Yo LeBron, I talked to enoughwhores in Canada.
I've talked to enough people.
Maybe Drake will keep teasingit.
Let me just tell you what I'veheard.
Yo LeBron, you and Drake used togo on two mans.
Okay, you've been cheating onyour goddamn wife.
(32:41):
Drake used to facilitate thehost and basically, essentially,
you can't dance to a song abouthim being a pedophile.
He used to supply you with thebitches.
I'm sorry, my nigga.
Yes, if I'm Drake, I'll snitchon you too.
Sorry, buddy, you can't do that.
No, you've been living a lieand everybody been thinking
(33:04):
you're this perfect guy, butwhen you come to Canada, I know
some of the whores.
When you come to Canada, youknow some of the whores.
When you come to Canada, youknow you come to certain places.
I'm supplying you with thewhite women you love.
You don't even like blackpeople, white women, I'm the guy
.
So when I bring the tings andI'm hooking you up, when
(33:28):
Kendrick drops a song sayingCertified Lover Boy, certified
Pedal, you're the first one tosay whoa, me and Drake done, did
some two-mans.
He ain't never bring nounderage girl.
What the fuck.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Alright, so.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Why was he so angry?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Alright, so if you're not familiar, does he?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
have Stephen A Smith syndrome.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
If you're not familiar, that is a thing.
If you're not familiar, that isa thing.
If you're not familiar with theacademic's work.
He is the number one Drake stanon the internet.
He is the stan of all stans.
I don't think I've ever seenany one person, man or otherwise
, stand for another man likethat in my life.
It's more insane than thedeadheads that follow the
(34:09):
Grateful Dead around for 25years straight and didn't miss a
concert.
I've never seen anything likeit.
Yes, but just first of all,academics is probably going to
face the largest defamationlawsuit we've ever seen in the
history of lawsuits Like outhere accusing LeBron of
basically cheating on his wifeand trying to ruin his public
(34:30):
reputation.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I can see Blacks never having their dragon hip
for filth.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It is.
You know what?
It's who, LeBron or academics,it's like 50-50.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
No academics, oh yeah .
Speaker 1 (34:47):
No, it's insane out there.
So look, rumors have beenfollowing lebron around for
years about, you know, such kindof behavior on lebron's part.
But again, like anyone who's inthe public image, to agree that
lebron is especially with hisspectacular record as far as
this public image is concerned,like the fact that the dude has
gone this long with not a singlepublic scandal is actually
(35:09):
incredible.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Uh, but yeah, so actually it is, but I never
really looked at lebron and sawhim as a perfect guy outside,
like off of the court, just one,because he's a professional
basketball player.
So I already have preconceivednotions anyway, and I also know
that a lot of relationshipsthere have, their wives are
unbothered and that they like,they like I got the ring bitch,
(35:31):
you just true story.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I mean, if you want to zoom out for a second in
macro, yes, like when we, itcomes to celebrities, like,
let's be honest here, peoplelike to have sex, and when
you're like a superstarcelebrity, you have more access
to just sexual conquest than theaverage person could ever
possibly dream of.
So people in these positionshave not always, but quite often
(35:54):
, have a different kind ofarrangement with their
significant other than than theaverage person on the street
might have.
And so whatever LeBron James isdoing in private when it as it
pertains to I don't know, Ican't speak on that, I don't
know.
But if that's true, it'sentirely possible him and his
wife like she understands, I'mnot shocking to me.
She understands the game right.
(36:15):
And look, it's not just men,like female celebrities, have
sex too.
Surprise, surprise, welcome toreality.
Congratulations.
But saying that academicsmaking that accusation so
fervently with no evidence topresent whatsoever is rather
insane.
It's so in depth in depth thanso in depth, it's crazy, it's
(36:35):
absolutely wild that thatacademics is such a drake stand
that he is out here burningdrake and lebron at the same
time because lebron's feelingswas hurt because I mean the
drake's feelings was hurtbecause this boy was out here
dancing to another rapper song.
I it's absolutely wild.
Now I would say if I was lebron,I would just not comment on
(36:57):
this whatsoever, because at theend of the day, uh and lebron
has made this point once beforeupon losing the fight in the
finals to golden state, uh, thethe time that they got swept, uh
, where he almost won game onesingle-handedly, but JR Smith
didn't know how much time wasleft on the clock, he made a
comment, I believe, after thegame it might have been after
(37:19):
the finals where he said, at theend of the day, you get to go
home and be you and I get to gohome and be me.
Lebron James, and I wouldsuggest he keep that same energy
because at the end of the day,no matter what these academics
say about you, dog, you knowwhat Ain't nobody else got you
(37:41):
know down three games to onefinals comeback against the
winningest team in the historyof basketball.
So he ain't got to think aboutthis shit, just relax, dog man,
academics man, I mean.
It's beneath him, his team inthe history of basketball.
So he ain't got to think aboutthis shit, just just relax, dog,
academics man, I mean it'sbeneath him.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You, what the fuck you're gonna respond to a
podcaster like dude, like you,you like, even though he's like
looked 40 since he was 12.
How old is he?
He's been in?
What?
20?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, LeBron is currently 40 years old.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Okay, so he's 40.
And then he went.
He was.
He drafted right after highschool.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yes, age of 18.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
22 years and his career.
He's got nothing to prove and,like I said, I don't look at, if
anything, I'm always throwingsome side eye at a professional
athlete in any genre.
If you don't have any of thatsmut in your life, I'm surprised
(38:45):
because I just to me it justgoes with territory and, like I
said, I'm not in their householdand that's between him and his
wife.
Whatever they got, it's notsomething that I'm shocked by
that.
Oh God, when you was in TorontoI used to get hoes for you and
(39:06):
I'm not really telling you know,because of course he's not
going to go cruising, like ofcourse they all got people
telling you know, because ofcourse he's not going to go
cruising, like of course theyall got handlers, people that
you know go out and owe you thistype, or you know some, some,
or you know.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
No celebrities.
Celebrities like at thatstature, especially if they're
in a committed relationship.
You know what they ain't doing.
They ain't going out to the bar, like you and me, with the
homeboy to meet the host.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I don't care what academic says like you and me
with the homeboy to meet thehost.
I don't care what academic says, no, they're bringing you up to
the room where there's somebottles, there's some music.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You go, kick it put your phone away and everybody
gonna leave and then whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, exactly exactly like they don't rock like us.
You know regular folk how youknow all the republicans always
getting getting caught doingsome dirt out in the trenches
Cause they ain't got nobody likethat to procure it for them.
Yeah, You're not you're notseeing anything shocking to say
(40:01):
that you pulled some bitches fora professional athlete.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, whoop-dee-doo.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Now I would say they were white, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I mean I think Right, yeah, yes, a black athlete has
never had sex with a white womanbefore Out of wed.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Never, not in the history.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Not in the history, no, but what I would say?
What are you talking about?
What I would say is just themost ironic part.
He looked, would say, is justthe most ironic part.
He, he does that quite often.
It's extraordinarilyperformative, but he also partly
means it.
No, I would say, what's themost ironic part of all of this
is that the entire world laughedat drake when he filed this
lawsuit uh, against his recordlabel, and didn't even file a
(40:44):
lawsuit against kendrick lamarfor defamation uh, when, when?
If leBron decides to in factfile a lawsuit against academics
for defamation, that the worldwill likely applaud, because DJ
academics is kind of a fuckingmoron.
And that concludes this episodeof pardon, the insurrection.
so, in case you missed it, somehow mark
zuckerberg announced that therewill be some changes to meta
platforms, at least in terms ofmoderating social media, where
the restrictions on what you areallowed to say will be loosened
into the point where there'spractically no fact checking
whatsoever.
A disastrous, just a disastrouspolicy decision in terms of you
(00:30):
know, I think it's betterpublicly traded yeah, publicly
traded social media companymaking decision to just allow
free for all on their platformsHarmful to society in numerous
ways.
Platforms harmful to society innumerous ways.
I mean, there's a reason why,over the course of the past 20
years, every major platform thatoffers any kind of social
interaction largely has, youknow, and they've all landed on
(00:56):
the same general decision whenit comes to moderating user
posted content, and there's areason for that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I mean mean, if you don't do that, you will
eventually arrive at a place, uh, where your platform becomes
4chan, if not even more nazi,prevalent, and then that scares
away much, but it's so crazybecause did you see the article,
which was it um tech crunch, Ithink, and it was um how people
(01:23):
could delete their Facebook,their threads and their IG, but
how they could download alltheir data, their pictures and
basically archive it like youcan archive on Xchan?
But they were saying that therewas a meeting that they had on
(01:47):
what is acceptable, that uh, andwhat is, and there's a thing
and it says allow or deny whenit comes to like certain
comments, and they were like ohso you can direct comments at a
racial group, a freaking gendergroup for the lgbtq community.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
you can't directly attack a person yeah, but you
can attack the larger, but youcan, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You can say you can't say you're a nigger, but you
can say I hate, that's different, or?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
all gays are pedophiles.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yes, it's out of control.
So, yes, the way in whichpeople are allowed to comment on
marginalized communities onmeta platforms now is insane.
You can find numerous examplesof it, surprisingly, on Twitter,
because, again, that place isalso unmoderated, so those
comments don't get.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, even like the screenshots of comments on
those other platforms, I do wantto point out is that people act
like Zuckerberg, and Facebookhasn't been a cesspool for a
minute, it's just been in adifferent kind of fucking way.
I mean, they've allowed Russianbots to storm.
I mean, come on, cambridgeAnalytica.
(03:02):
We can never forget that shit.
So are we really surprised?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
no, zuckerberg's been in the bag of republicans since
2016 and I think largely thatis due to the idea that he
believes, um, you know,congressional regulate or just
regulation by the federalgovernment.
It will be harmful to hisbottom line.
But again, just capitalism, manlike.
Not everything needs tonecessarily-.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
His bottom line is like 3,000 leads under the sea.
He's a goddamn bitch.
Okay, but whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We have convinced ourselves as a nation that the
most important thing in life isto make as much money as
possible, even though only ahandful of Americans will ever
get remotely close to making asmuch money as possible.
And it's allowed a lot ofegregious and unsavory behavior
that is, at the end of the day,results in large negative
(03:58):
impacts for every singleAmerican in the world at large.
But again, american and theworld at large.
But again, I'm not going togive a dissertation on the evils
of unfettered capitalism, andthis is someone who's like yeah,
I'm largely pro-capitalism,except for in the extremes.
Right, it's great for people inthe middle, it is terrible for
people at the bottom and itawards an atrociously dangerous
(04:23):
amount of power and influence topeople at the top.
And you know we should.
I mean it's too late now, butwe should install some systems
to protect the people at thebottom and limit the people at
the top from having unbalancedand unfair influence.
And control.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, I mean just yes for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Too late, I mean, but you know, look, we've elected
the billionaire president Likehe's.
Elon Musk is who I'm speakingof now.
We've got President Elon Musk,which is man in America from
largely.
I mean, every once in a whilehe might trade places with Bezos
here and there and he'll beback up in a couple of months.
(05:10):
We've also got Vice PresidentTrump, trump, who is probably
now officially a billionaire.
I mean, I don't know what hisnet worth is on paper, but he's
probably, you know, by the timeyou balance in his losses and
all this debt.
Maybe a few years ago heprobably wasn't actually a
billionaire, but I'm sure he isnow, especially with all of the
all of the billionaires pouringmoney into his pocket and all of
the foreign connectionsinvolved investing in Trump's
(05:31):
companies.
And we've got numerous techbillionaires and other
billionaires sending millions ofdollars to him for his
inauguration, even though we'venever discovered what happened
to the funds from the inauguralhis inauguration in 2016, where
he raised over $120 million andhis inauguration looked like it
cost a fraction of that.
(05:52):
Never figured out where thatmoney went.
I'm assuming it was launderedinto shell companies that
eventually funneled the moneyand the funds back to him.
I mean we're about to have arepeat of that.
Hope someone's investigatingthat Mel.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
now Melania's got her own bag, her $40 million bag.
She's got her own money now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So Jeff Bezos is pouring $40 million directly
into Trump's pocket with thisbiographic.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I don't want to call it a biography Straight into
Melania's purse, and that washow he bribed her to be seen
with him more times, I think, inthe last two weeks.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
That's not what it is .
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We'll give you $40 million for this documentary.
That's probably not worth amillion if you'll go to the
White House.
Is that what it is?
So you don't embarrass Trump?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
With the Pornhub ban ban, how are maca gonna be able
to see the documentary?
Well, I live in tennessee and Ithink our our state supreme
court kind of overturned thatban, or at least um stated have
you seen tennessee?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
they live in tennessee all the motherfuckers
freaky.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I gotta tell you if, if, if dudes down here ain't
able to beat off, I would beconcerned about the impacts that
that might have on civil life,because dudes down here is they,
yeah, it's a lot going on.
Um, yeah, I don't know if you,if you all listening to this,
pay attention to tennesseepolitics, but it's insane down
(07:24):
here.
Like, I know, like, texas andflorida get a lot of attention
because they're huge, buttennessee is actually, I would
say, florida light, but floridais likely tennessee light in
that like, because theirinsanity gets so much attention,
they kind of take their footoff the gas pedal.
No, it's insane down here.
Buddy, now I live in a blue dotlike.
(07:46):
My city is awesome, uh, as aremost blue cities in in the south
.
They're largely, uh, you know,bastions of what you would like
society to largely be in in theformer confederate states.
But the rest of the state man,it's out of control and memphis
is its own beast, it's.
It is as different from therest of tennessee as atlanta is
(08:07):
from the rest of georgia.
I can't even describe.
Well, that's all right, so thatwhen I I don't participate in
that form of um, you know, Idon't participate in that form
of economic, so Tennessee isweirdly placed in that it is a
(08:31):
kind of a pit stop on the roadto other cities along the
eastern seaport and vice versa,in Florida and New York and
Michigan and Ohio and whatnot,in terms of trafficking of the
drugs.
Now I don't know what thecurrent drug prices go to.
Again, I'm not involved in thatmarket, but I can almost say
(08:54):
that's like 20 years.
I can certainly tell you youare not getting keys for 10 a
piece at this point in time.
Prices have gone up Now maybeif you're buying hundreds of
pounds you might can get it downto 15.
But I would suggest you noteven get yourself involved in
that endeavor.
It's a haphazard business.
(09:15):
The life expectancy in thatline of work is akin to being a
coal miner.
You might want to.
You might want to stay far fromthat.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You might live longer as a coal miner.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I would say in terms of like health benefits.
It's probably similar coalmining Anyway.
But Trump, rather PresidentBiden, had comments on Meta's
reversal in terms of platforming, liars and disinformation.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
On MECA's decision to end its fact-checking
operations in the United States.
Is that a good decision in your?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
opinion Well look, the whole idea of walking away
from fax checking as well as notreporting anything having to do
with discrimination regardingTPS, I find to be just contrary
(10:24):
to American Justice, american,the way we talk about one
another.
Telling the truth matters.
I mean it's.
I know I'm on nationaltelevision, but you all are
local reporters and nationalreporters, I'm not.
This is not a legit, realquestion.
(10:45):
But what do you think?
You think it doesn't matterthat they let be printed or
millions of people read it,things that are simply not true?
I mean, I I don't know whatthat's all about.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It's just completely contrary to everything america's
about mr biden, I can tell youwhat it's about If you rewind
the tape back to 1930s Germany.
One of I know we've been doinga lot of that lately and I'm
sorry to continue upon thistrack of comparing the Trump
administration to the Nazi partyof early 1930s Germany.
(11:21):
but Well, I mean, it tracks, ittracks, tracks so one of the
ways in which the nazi party wonan election, despite being a
minority party, and worked theirway all the way up to being not
only a controlling majority buta single party nation, is the
elimination of factualinformation being presented to
(11:43):
the public.
Dis Disinformation ran rampant.
They did a lot to encourage themedia to not only spread lies
and disinformation, but theyeventually just took outright
control of the entire mediaapparatus in Germany at the time
, which was largely radio andprint journalism.
I mean, you know, journalismworks differently in 2024.
(12:06):
Now we don't necessarily relyon journalistic outlets to
inform the country, but they doinform the people and
influencers who spread thatinformation.
And now this information willbe allowed to spread like
wildfire, the same way it did asthe Nazi party took power, and
you know, again, we saw how thatended Fingers crossed.
(12:28):
America doesn't end up followingthe same route.
But hey, look, we just had anelection where we had a
presidential candidate outrightquoting Hitler.
So don't know what to tell youin that regard.
But yeah, biden's right, it'sabsolutely disgusting, mark
Zuckerberg.
Not having his you knowmulti-billion dollar platforms
engage in some kind ofreasonable journalistic fact
(12:49):
checking when it comes to thespreading of false information
is just outright absurd.
But again, you know this iswhat happens.
This is what happens when youhave a Hitler-like figure or a
Putin-like figure.
Take power right.
Like figure, take power right.
The people understand that ifwe want to survive financially,
we either have to unite andfight that individual as a whole
(13:11):
or they're gonna have to buyhis affections, which never
really works.
It never works.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I mean appeasing addicted because look, even
after abc gave that 15 milliondollar, then brendan carr, the
fcc, and he was like, oh, hepaid that 15 million, so you
admitted you defamed him.
So now we have to look intothis like it's.
It's never, it's like what wedo not negotiate with terrorists
, like there's a reason for thatsaying you know what I'm saying
(13:37):
, I mean that, yes, thesentiment, the the factual
nature of negotiating withterrorists and as it pertains to
that statement is largelyoverblown, but the sentiment
stands.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
There's a reason it exists, because oftentimes
negotiating with terrorists ortrying to appease a dictator
just encourages the dictator orthe terrorist to ask for more
until there's no more left togive, at which point you become
expendable.
So yeah, or complicit.
There's also the point whereyou've poured so much time and
(14:09):
investment, financially andotherwise, into these unruly
figures that you becomecomplicit in their bad actions
and then it becomesextraordinarily difficult for
you to disentangle yourself fromengaging in further harm to
whatever party.
Yeah, good luck guys.
It's going to be rough outthere over the course of the
next four years.
I mean, I would imagine at somepoint like once they get
(14:31):
through working their way downfrom all of the important
political figures and harassingnews and media outlets and such
and such, they'll probably worktheir way back down to me in
utah okay, see how much time wehave.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'll get my pogrom go back.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, what do they wear?
What do we wear in the?
Do we get like the grayjumpsuits?
Do we get stripes?
Are we gonna get tattoos?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't want stripes, I think I'd rather have gray or
one of those like dingy brown.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh, like the the siberian russia jumpsuit, yeah
yeah, do we get.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We don't need grinder wear.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's that short solidarity, I'll take that and
we got her back, though she'slike I, you mean, I got escaped
russian captivity.
To come back to this shit, tothis American captivity.
At least we won't have to wearstars.
We're already marked by ourskin color, so we don't need the
(15:31):
extra accessories.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's going to be all we need.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
They don't have to mark us Just the pink mafia, the
rainbow mafia or yeah I I'msure there's someone listening
to this like you, guys arereally minimizing the harm
that's going to come to every.
No, we're we, we understand andwe're making light of it.
We are fully aware, I am we aremaking light of it in the sense
(16:00):
of In the sense.
Oh yeah, no, we, we, we canonly make light of it in the
sense that, as being part of ahistorically oppressed and
marginalized group, that we'reextraordinarily comfortable with
the idea that we just going tohave to tough it the fuck out.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's just that just how it is, exactly, exactly, and
that's what I said.
I'm like you know, you whitewomen no offense, white women
y'all about to fuck around andfind out.
And see me, yeah, I'm asufferer too, but I'm used to
being a marginalized class andsee, we always, we always live
(16:34):
on the edge of, we can go back,because they've always been
attacking us, regardless of theproblem we are constantly aware
of the fact that we might alwaysgo problem.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We are constantly.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We are constantly aware of the fact that we might
always go back years.
We are good, we're constantlylike living on that edge.
So like when I don't know if itwas called activism or uh, yeah
, I think it was called activismand then it was like you know,
what do you think about obama?
And sit next to trump, and thenpeople like, oh, look there,
(17:03):
and I and I said honestly, I'mindifferent, he's, he's, obama's
nothing if not gracious.
However, as a black person, Iknow what it's like to move in
in spaces and having to put onthat face and smile and laugh
when your co-worker tells thatn-word joke.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Obama is on the clock .
The people who are complainingabout Obama have never seen a
Black person on the clock.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah right, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
This is how we got to move and work.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
We survive jobs and dig in the fire.
Because when he comes in hegoes hey, what do you call a
Black guy that walks in a barand then something ends with the
n-word?
You're like ah, charles, thatwas a good one.
Like yeah, I mean, like youknow, we don't have a fucking
choice, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
People take this for granted, right.
So a majority of the blackpopulation in the united states
to this day still lives in thesouth right.
And do you understand?
Do they understand what thatmeans?
Probably not.
It means that black peoplehistorically for the past
hundred and we're going on what160, 70 years now have had to
learn through just multipleencounters with our former
(18:15):
oppressors how to navigatethrough life causing the least
amount of harm to ourselves andour communities.
And the distillation of thatcan be seen and keeping a job.
And keeping a job, even thoughthey, for the longest time,
wouldn't even allow us to havejobs, no matter how skilled we
were in any particular form oflabor or otherwise.
(18:36):
The distillation of thatprinciple can clearly be seen in
Obama sitting there at thefuneral of president carter and
having to yuck it up because,for unfortunate reasons, he got
sat next to trump because hiswife was out of.
She's out of the country, rightshe's in hawaii.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh okay, she's in hawaii.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, she's out of the country.
Yeah, she was otherwise.
She was otherwise occupied andunavailable to attend the
funeral.
Therefore, obama formerPresident Obama got seated next
to Trump and had to yuck it upfor the cameras, because the
country is watching and if hebehaved in a manner of which
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most of us other black peoplewould likely engage in, if we
were to be forced to sit next totrump, it would cause a
spectacle, and the one thingobama ain't never done in his
entire life has caused nospectacle his cause is spectacle
exactly that ain't that didn'tengage or look stoic in any way.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It would have been angry black man see he's so
divisive.
It would have been let pit, letlet karen pence, let mother
take that heat.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, she's white, it's okay yeah, when a white
person don't want to shakekamala harris hand, people just
you know they boohoo it, butthey there's really no political
consequences when they're likewhat was he laughing about?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
you know, obama could have been laughing in his mind,
thinking.
This mother said that yeahright, he was laughing because
you know trump told him a hearty, hard, hard, like now on the
flip side.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Kamala harris did take a peek back there to look
at them like bro what are you?
Doing and you know what.
You know what obama did whenshe was looking he shut the fuck
up.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I'm gonna have to watch that again.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I didn't, it was it was like watching friday.
He, he obama was like she gavehim that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Uh, no, no, no, no, no, she gave him that debo look.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And obama was like debo be like shut the fuck up,
and I'd be quiet.
But when he, I'll be talkingagain.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I mean I?
I did love seeing mother.
Uh, just, she didn't even standup and ignore him, she sat down
, but I did love how George andLaura walked right back.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I had to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I rewound.
I rewound that clip like fivetimes because I was like did I
miss something?
Did I see what I just saw?
And it was like they were noteven there.
And then when pence was, whenmy mother was sitting down and
uh, I didn't know that they'dbeen married 44 years.
He doesn't look that that oldand I know that she was married
(21:17):
before, but because, but see,everybody keeps saying you know
well, what do you expect?
He tried to she, he tried tokill her husband oh, and her,
she was there exactly, that'sexactly my point, but they keep
leaving out.
She was there on january the 6thwith their young child for sure
who all three of them is likeno, you didn't just put my
(21:40):
husband, now fuck him.
You put my daughter in danger,my fucking child, because you
guys were like 40 feet away yeah, it really goes.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It really goes.
And said that pence's wholefamily was at the capitol on
january 6th and trump tried toalso have their murder.
Um, also, just quick notemelania's hair.
It looked like her hairdresseris joy taylor's hairdresser.
Like her hair, her hairdresser.
Her hairdresser was like I'mfiling a lawsuit and I'm out of
here.
I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know what the fuck was going on with her in
general, I mean because shealways just spends $400,000 a
year on her stylist.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But ain't got no style in her hair.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That whole, that that look, that, that it was like a
new version of the handmaid'stale, like she was like
promoting the new robes and suchthat we would have to wear at
that point the but I, I, I, I, Idon't get it, I don't.
And someone had pointed outwhatever that little design was
(22:44):
on her collar.
I guess someone had blown it up.
I don't know.
They didn't show the source,cause you know Derek, the guy,
he's always doing the breakdownon the fashion.
Yes, our, our, yes, our favoritefashion expert Blown it up and
it was this man, naked man andwoman embraced, and you know,
(23:05):
kind of one of those artsy,fartsy type but that you might
see in a museum, and then her,her titty was on him and her ass
cheeks was on the ground.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You could see her ass cheeks on the ground and I was
like wow, that was, that wassomething, but in her hair it
just looked like it looked likeKaren.
She looked like Karen Bass.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It was insane oh oh, in the Upside down program when
she was reading it.
Man that was bananas.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Barack Obama, having to show white people how to read
is just Incredible turn ofevents.
Alright Quickly before we getout of here, so In a total shit
from what we've been coveringpreviously on the podcast, drake
released a freestyle.
I did not personally release it.
I believe it was released onInstagram by way of the producer
(23:54):
.
That goes by the moniker.
The conductor isextraordinarily interesting.
It's called Fighting IrishFreestyle and it's noteworthy
for a couple of things.
We'll play that for you realquick.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I love.
You got tickets seem like theyloved every minute.
Just know, the shit is personalto us and it wasn't just
business.
Analyzing behavioral patternsis somewhat suspicious.
Niggas was never happy for mewhen I run up the digits or when
I'm breaking world recordsstill as I guzzle a Guinness, or
when I get my fifth made backbecause the color is different.
Remember, we traded watches.
I gave you the Arabic dial.
(24:46):
You gave me a numbered edition.
You would even check up on myson like a pediatrician.
Sure, convinced the gang thatshit was rooted in love when it
isn't.
Show me how different we are.
There's lessons injuxtaposition.
I guess now you boys got a bandof your summer tradition cold
shoulders.
I gave in a hamper as it comewith the distance figure.
We was always gonna be closelike ovens and kitchens.
I was sadly mistaken.
(25:07):
The loyalty wasn't a given.
It's all good and niggas crythe blues for you saying it
wasn't malicious Talking aboutwe family.
Well, I'm not the cousin tovisit.
God forbid we ever gottatarnish your public image.
All that brother talk as if Ireally discovered a sibling.
Six degrees my memoriesretrieving our humble beginnings
.
Niggas want to trouble.
(25:28):
Grab the shovel and dug up someditches Cover my body in dirt,
but that wasn't me.
That wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Not bad, Not bad Well it's something.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So, first of all, we're not going to do a literal
analysis on that, because that'snot.
We're not a rap podcast,although I do.
I am fond of the rap genre.
It is my favorite.
Although I do, I am fond of therap genre, it is my favorite.
I have actually written somesongs myself and you can check
those out on the Spotify orwhatever if you so choose,
d-night obviously, anyway.
(26:11):
So the course of 2024, in asong in which Kendrick Lamar
called Drake a PDF file I don'tknow that's how the YouTubers
tend to call it, but yes hebasically suggested that Drake
engages in sexual relations withunderage women.
Now, I don't particularly thinkthat Drake is a pedophile,
although like candidate.
So Drake is Canadian andCanadians are strange.
(26:34):
And also the age of consent, upthere is 17.
You can make of that what youwill.
That's not a defense of anyone.
Again, drake is almost 40,dating an adult.
But so one of the, in the midstof the aftermath of that battle,
kendrick Lamar held a concertthat was shown on Amazon Prime,
(26:54):
the pop out in LA, ken andFriends and whatnot, to which
LeBron attended, and he wasdancing along and singing at the
songs and looked like he wantedto hop on stage with Kendrick
Lamar, and if you're familiarwith Drake and LeBron's
relationship, they've been superbuddy-buddy for over a decade
now.
At this point, I think I thinkweirdly, drake has a tattoo of
LeBron James on him, somewhereon his arm.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Extraordinarily weird .
If you notice the title of thesong again, it's called Fighting
Irish Freestyle in reference toLeBron James' high school team,
which was the Irish.
So there's the connection.
There was the Irish.
So there's the connection there.
Of note, Drake is throwingnumerous shots at what he
perceives to be a fake friendwho was not down with him in the
(27:39):
midst of this beef and you know, depending on how you feel
about it, like if I was with myhomeboys and somebody dropped a
song and in the whole countrywas singing it and it was
calling me a pedophile and myhomie was out there at the
concert dancing around, you knowIG playing the dude songs, I
would feel some kind of way.
I feel like if that's the homiedog what are you doing?
(28:01):
Fair enough, but at the sametime.
If I'm a rapper and, like Ihave, also have a huge platform,
what I ain't going to do is cryabout it in a song in front of
the whole world in a way thateverybody knows exactly who I'm
talking about.
Now, in terms of the versesitself, like look, anyone who
(28:23):
hates Drake.
You're probably going to belike, oh Drake sucks.
Drake does not suck.
He has his flaws.
Even his rap, his music, hassome flaws, but largely that
song was you know, lyrically ithas the same thing every classic
Drake song has.
It's like 80% dope bars, 15%filler and then like 5% oh yeah,
(28:45):
that dude is from Canada,that's right when he just say
some weird shit, like I always.
I thought we'd always be close,like ovens and kitchens, bro,
ovens are in kitchens.
I don't.
Is that like a reference to youand LeBron being so close?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I don't know, maybe you should have said like
fridges and freezers.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't, yeah, that's see, that's what I'm talking
about, that is what.
I'm talking about that.
That is what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm saying rightthere.
You know, like we live inamerica and we make like normal
references where we understandlike the context of, even like a
metaphor, like close, like likelike fridges and freezers and
this dude is making a referencelike me and lebron are so close
(29:24):
that it's like lebron is in me.
I don't really that's not atitle like is someone who is not
a professional musician or anartist in that regard, but I do
understand like the basicconcepts of writing a song.
That is not a reference that Iwould have made and largely
that's because ovens are maybeovens and kitchens do things a
little different.
Man, maybe maybe ovens anddining rooms, like maybe your
(29:50):
dining room is adjacent to yourkitchen and that would have made
a look.
I don't understand that andlike so.
There is also a line in thesong where he's talking about I
don't, didn't want to have todirty your image and that could
be talking about a number ofpeople, but given that the song
is largely directed at hisrelationship with LeBron James,
he could be insisting that thereis probably some secrets or
(30:10):
dirty laundry in LeBron James.
He could be insisting thatthere is probably some secrets
or dirty laundry in LeBronJames's past.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
There's some tea out there, yes.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Now again, this is another, another issue of like
the difference between your.
I mean I don't know if there'sthat much of a difference, but
like where the normal Americanwill look at that and be like
dog.
Is you really out here about tospill the tea on the bronze
games?
No, you do not.
We do not snitch on the homies,even if they out here running
around with other women,whatever.
(30:37):
I'm sorry we just don't do itlike and look again.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm not saying whether that's right that's the
bitch shit like no, we don't dothat, no, we just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
They're just not like you, don't rat on your girls.
I'm sure there's like some kindof girl code that I may not be
familiar with because I'm not awoman, I don't know.
But like dudes just out hereain't ratting on dudes like that
.
And if you out here evensuggesting that you might
possibly do that in the song,that's the lamest possible shit
ever.
Now that started a rumor, wind,storm, firestorm on the
(31:12):
Internet about the possibilityof LeBron James stepping out on
his wife, and that was furtherfueled by some leaked dms
between Drake and anotherindividual, where he compared
his lawsuit against his recordlabel UMG, where he was accusing
them of inflating the streamsof his rival's song, the one
that called him a child molesterin all, generally speaking, him
and his crew.
(31:32):
He compared that to Nikeengaging in a campaign to paint
LeBron James out as a cheater,which is just a weird reference
to make for that to be at thetop of your mind when you're
even considering what thelawsuit is like.
So that led to even morespeculation.
And then we had none other thanDJ Academics.
(31:54):
If you're familiar with hiswork, he's a live streamer who
engages in well.
He covers music content in hisown particular way.
He had a few comments on thesituation surrounding LeBron
James and his wife and theirrelationship and their
activities that Drake and LeBronmight have engaged in in the
(32:16):
past.
And, jesus Christ man, this isout of control right now.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
News flash for LeBron .
Yo LeBron, I talked to enoughwhores in Canada.
I've talked to enough people.
Maybe Drake will keep teasingit.
Let me just tell you what I'veheard.
Yo LeBron, you and Drake used togo on two mans.
Okay, you've been cheating onyour goddamn wife.
(32:41):
Drake used to facilitate thehost and basically, essentially,
you can't dance to a song abouthim being a pedophile.
He used to supply you with thebitches.
I'm sorry, my nigga.
Yes, if I'm Drake, I'll snitchon you too.
Sorry, buddy, you can't do that.
No, you've been living a lieand everybody been thinking
(33:04):
you're this perfect guy, butwhen you come to Canada, I know
some of the whores.
When you come to Canada, youknow some of the whores.
When you come to Canada, youknow you come to certain places.
I'm supplying you with thewhite women you love.
You don't even like blackpeople, white women, I'm the guy
.
So when I bring the tings andI'm hooking you up, when
(33:28):
Kendrick drops a song sayingCertified Lover Boy, certified
Pedal, you're the first one tosay whoa, me and Drake done, did
some two-mans.
He ain't never bring nounderage girl.
What the fuck.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Alright, so.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Why was he so angry?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Alright, so if you're not familiar, does he?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
have Stephen A Smith syndrome.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
If you're not familiar, that is a thing.
If you're not familiar, that isa thing.
If you're not familiar with theacademic's work.
He is the number one Drake stanon the internet.
He is the stan of all stans.
I don't think I've ever seenany one person, man or otherwise
, stand for another man likethat in my life.
It's more insane than thedeadheads that follow the
(34:09):
Grateful Dead around for 25years straight and didn't miss a
concert.
I've never seen anything likeit.
Yes, but just first of all,academics is probably going to
face the largest defamationlawsuit we've ever seen in the
history of lawsuits Like outhere accusing LeBron of
basically cheating on his wifeand trying to ruin his public
(34:30):
reputation.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I can see Blacks never having their dragon hip
for filth.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It is.
You know what?
It's who, LeBron or academics,it's like 50-50.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
No academics, oh yeah .
Speaker 1 (34:47):
No, it's insane out there.
So look, rumors have beenfollowing lebron around for
years about, you know, such kindof behavior on lebron's part.
But again, like anyone who's inthe public image, to agree that
lebron is especially with hisspectacular record as far as
this public image is concerned,like the fact that the dude has
gone this long with not a singlepublic scandal is actually
(35:09):
incredible.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Uh, but yeah, so actually it is, but I never
really looked at lebron and sawhim as a perfect guy outside,
like off of the court, just one,because he's a professional
basketball player.
So I already have preconceivednotions anyway, and I also know
that a lot of relationshipsthere have, their wives are
unbothered and that they like,they like I got the ring bitch,
(35:31):
you just true story.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I mean, if you want to zoom out for a second in
macro, yes, like when we, itcomes to celebrities, like,
let's be honest here, peoplelike to have sex, and when
you're like a superstarcelebrity, you have more access
to just sexual conquest than theaverage person could ever
possibly dream of.
So people in these positionshave not always, but quite often
(35:54):
, have a different kind ofarrangement with their
significant other than than theaverage person on the street
might have.
And so whatever LeBron James isdoing in private when it as it
pertains to I don't know, Ican't speak on that, I don't
know.
But if that's true, it'sentirely possible him and his
wife like she understands, I'mnot shocking to me.
She understands the game right.
(36:15):
And look, it's not just men,like female celebrities, have
sex too.
Surprise, surprise, welcome toreality.
Congratulations.
But saying that academicsmaking that accusation so
fervently with no evidence topresent whatsoever is rather
insane.
It's so in depth in depth thanso in depth, it's crazy, it's
(36:35):
absolutely wild that thatacademics is such a drake stand
that he is out here burningdrake and lebron at the same
time because lebron's feelingswas hurt because I mean the
drake's feelings was hurtbecause this boy was out here
dancing to another rapper song.
I it's absolutely wild.
Now I would say if I was lebron,I would just not comment on
(36:57):
this whatsoever, because at theend of the day, uh and lebron
has made this point once beforeupon losing the fight in the
finals to golden state, uh, thethe time that they got swept, uh
, where he almost won game onesingle-handedly, but JR Smith
didn't know how much time wasleft on the clock, he made a
comment, I believe, after thegame it might have been after
(37:19):
the finals where he said, at theend of the day, you get to go
home and be you and I get to gohome and be me.
Lebron James, and I wouldsuggest he keep that same energy
because at the end of the day,no matter what these academics
say about you, dog, you knowwhat Ain't nobody else got you
(37:41):
know down three games to onefinals comeback against the
winningest team in the historyof basketball.
So he ain't got to think aboutthis shit, just relax, dog man,
academics man, I mean.
It's beneath him, his team inthe history of basketball.
So he ain't got to think aboutthis shit, just just relax, dog,
academics man, I mean it'sbeneath him.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You, what the fuck you're gonna respond to a
podcaster like dude, like you,you like, even though he's like
looked 40 since he was 12.
How old is he?
He's been in?
What?
20?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, LeBron is currently 40 years old.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Okay, so he's 40.
And then he went.
He was.
He drafted right after highschool.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yes, age of 18.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
22 years and his career.
He's got nothing to prove and,like I said, I don't look at, if
anything, I'm always throwingsome side eye at a professional
athlete in any genre.
If you don't have any of thatsmut in your life, I'm surprised
(38:45):
because I just to me it justgoes with territory and, like I
said, I'm not in their householdand that's between him and his
wife.
Whatever they got, it's notsomething that I'm shocked by
that.
Oh God, when you was in TorontoI used to get hoes for you and
(39:06):
I'm not really telling you know,because of course he's not
going to go cruising, like ofcourse they all got people
telling you know, because ofcourse he's not going to go
cruising, like of course theyall got handlers, people that
you know go out and owe you thistype, or you know some, some,
or you know.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
No celebrities.
Celebrities like at thatstature, especially if they're
in a committed relationship.
You know what they ain't doing.
They ain't going out to the bar, like you and me, with the
homeboy to meet the host.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I don't care what academic says like you and me
with the homeboy to meet thehost.
I don't care what academic says, no, they're bringing you up to
the room where there's somebottles, there's some music.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You go, kick it put your phone away and everybody
gonna leave and then whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, exactly exactly like they don't rock like us.
You know regular folk how youknow all the republicans always
getting getting caught doingsome dirt out in the trenches
Cause they ain't got nobody likethat to procure it for them.
Yeah, You're not you're notseeing anything shocking to say
(40:01):
that you pulled some bitches fora professional athlete.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, whoop-dee-doo.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Now I would say they were white, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I mean I think Right, yeah, yes, a black athlete has
never had sex with a white womanbefore Out of wed.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Never, not in the history.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Not in the history, no, but what I would say?
What are you talking about?
What I would say is just themost ironic part.
He looked, would say, is justthe most ironic part.
He, he does that quite often.
It's extraordinarilyperformative, but he also partly
means it.
No, I would say, what's themost ironic part of all of this
is that the entire world laughedat drake when he filed this
lawsuit uh, against his recordlabel, and didn't even file a
(40:44):
lawsuit against kendrick lamarfor defamation uh, when, when?
If leBron decides to in factfile a lawsuit against academics
for defamation, that the worldwill likely applaud, because DJ
academics is kind of a fuckingmoron.
And that concludes this episodeof pardon, the insurrection.
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