November 19, 2024 • 51 mins
What happens when the lines between entertainment and politics begin to blur? Join us as we grapple with the surreal reality of Trump winning the election, and Mike Tyson stepping into the ring against a YouTuber at 58 years old. It seems like the world is turning into a bizarre reality TV show, where spectacle outweighs substance. We unravel the implications of Tyson's choice to prioritize financial gain over legacy and our frustration over the sidelining of black athletes in favor of social media influencers like Jake Paul.
We shift gears to examine the unexpected political maneuvers of Joe Biden, inviting Donald Trump to the White House amidst lingering tensions from the 2020 transition chaos. The glaring absence of a pandemic response plan from the previous administration serves as a lens through which we scrutinize how political dynamics have impacted public health governance. Navigating the complexities of moral ambiguity, we weigh in on the challenges of reconciling Mike Tyson’s troubled past with his current persona.
Finally, the controversial nomination of Matt Gaetz for Attorney General by Trump takes center stage, with its problematic implications for justice and governance. We tackle Trump's military loyalty demands and plans for mass deportations, unraveling the potential diplomatic and logistical challenges that loom. Amidst this political whirlwind, the episode underscores the essential need for critical thinking and media literacy, urging our listeners to remain vigilant and informed as we maneuver through these turbulent times.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
One, two, three, four podcast where, after trump
winning the election and miketyson losing to a youtuber,
black people across the countryhave never been more down bad.
We just can't have no pictures.
It's rough out there for yourboys.
It's rough out there for mypeople.
You gotta have our backs tosupport us in these crazy ass
weeks it's been something.
(00:42):
Uh, I and I've been trying totell people, man, uh, I mean not
, this is important because wedo have some important things to
get to, but like the universe,just or at least this country in
particular has just become areality tv show.
There's absolutely no way, uh,mike tyson should be 58 years
old, should be out here justboxing a youtuber.
But what's more absurd is thefact that if you watch Tyson
(01:05):
train, you're like, oh, he'sactually in really good shape.
And then you watch the fightand you're like, oh, he could
have killed him at any time anddidn't.
This is all for show.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Did you read the uh, the, the rules, the contract?
No, the contract was so crazysomebody was going through and
it was like, oh okay, if heknocked him out in the first
round, tyson would be penalizedfinancially.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And then it was like the same, it was just all this
shit hamstring because basicallythey wanted to draw it out
number one once I saw the well,I saw the part about where he
wouldn't get his bag if, the, ifit ended in a ko in the first
round, I was like like, oh, thisis, I'm out, I don't.
I didn't even watch it in realtime.
I woke up the next day, checkedout you know a few of the
(01:53):
rounds and I was like, oh, cause, I saw there was one point
where Tyson stuck him with a jabreally hard, knocked him off
balance and made him drop hisleft hand and when he didn't go
in for the kill shot right there, because I mean obviously the
next, yeah, the next course ofmoves is like you come with the
heavy right, hit the body, blowand then you throw up a cut and
(02:13):
it's all over.
And when he didn't do that, Iwas like, oh, this is, this is
some bullshit.
And I just yeah, you knowforget.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know it's sad, it's.
It's really sad that I mean Idon't know if he needed the
money, because I do know thatit's sad, it's.
It's really sad that I mean Idon't know if he needed the
money, because I do know thathe's had some financial issues
in his time, you know, after hiscareer and everything thanks to
Don King.
But I'm just like they want to.
My first thing in my mind wasthey want to remove black folks
(02:41):
from everything.
They want to remove black folksfrom everything.
They're pumping up this.
I'm dead ass serious.
It sounds silly, but I was likeand now they take, they're
taking back boxing.
You know what I mean?
Like they're taking back boxingand they're propping up this,
jake Paul.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Then you got to have all these rules and I don't know
, man, where's the dignity?
Well, you know, Mike, that kidasked Mike Tyson about his
legacy and he was like, legacymeans nothing, we're all going
to die.
And I was like, oh yeah.
And then when I saw the fight,he's like, yeah, he clearly
chose the bag over his leg.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, he was like what the fuck?
I hear about a legacy and look.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I ain't judging Like.
If I had the opportunity tomake 20 million dollars by
standing around throwing punchesat Jake Paul but not really
trying to end it, I'd probablydo it.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I was angry, bunny.
She made a good point and shewas like, oh great, so a
convicted rapist and accusedrapists are fighting, cool.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was like, ok, okay, that's fair yeah look, I don't
even know how to talk about miketyson from a moral perspective.
Like it's it's.
It's difficult to evencomprehend the insanity that
went into creating what theperson mike tyson became over
the course of his boxing career.
A lot of detestable things.
I know he was convicted on arape count, but and you know
(04:06):
we're in the space of let'slet's try to believe women if
possible.
This is one of the weird caseswhere I might make an exception
in Mike Tyson's case, notbecause I think Mike Tyson is a
good person, but mostly becausehe is actually willing to admit
to you just how terrible of aperson he was, of what person he
is, to admit to you just howterrible of a person he was, of
what person he is, and he waslike I actually didn't do that
(04:27):
one thing, but I was so bad inall these other ways that I
deserved, for instance.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I mean when you are like okay, that was just okay, I
didn't do that, but I did somuch other dirt.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, just go ahead and lock me other dirt.
Yeah, just go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That was just my karma.
I deserved it for all the shitI didn't get caught for.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It is now we even like I don't know, like yeah,
it's hard to.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean, I don't know, I don't want to take a side on
that, but it's just, it's funnythat he's willing to admit just
how bad he was and he was like,even though I didn't do this, I
deserve it.
That's some wild stuff.
But speaking of spectacle, uh,so of course you know, trump won
the election.
Sad for america, but uh, bidenin the world, of course, and
(05:20):
biden is, of course, taking thehigher role where he invited
trump to meet him in the WhiteHouse to talk about the
transition that would need totake place.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Make sure you're accommodating what you need.
We're going to get a chance totalk about some of that today
and thank you very much.
And politics is tough and it'sin many cases not a very nice
world, but it is a nice worldtoday and I appreciate it very
much.
A transition that's so smoothit'll be as smooth as it can get
(05:56):
and I very much appreciate that.
Jim, you're welcome.
Thank you all.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So a couple of things .
There is first of all, you know, I don't know how to feel about
Biden being the bigger man inthis situation when trump is
threatened to basically have joebiden killed along with kamala
harris and and to do detestablethings to his son.
But he's clearly a betterperson than I am.
That's why he made a betterpresident than I would ever make
.
Uh, but uh, it's quite funny.
(06:41):
So there's also this other clipof him running around with
Trump at the White House wherephotographers are taking
pictures and if you notice, inboth of those like, for some
reason Biden seemsextraordinarily happy, for
whatever reason, while Trump is.
Like I wonder what's going onthere.
I wonder why Biden is so happybut Trump isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
You know.
You know there were a lot ofpeople were big, a lot of people
were mad, many were disgustedat this.
But this exact thing is why wechose him, because at the end of
the day, he will always be adiplomat, he will always be
diplomatic in his process, hewill always be gracious when it
(07:23):
comes to that arena and you justcan't shake.
You know, 60 years of that'sjust who he is, not just as a
politician but as a man ingeneral.
And for him it would do Americano favors for him to be petty
about it it really wouldn't.
And then it would just that.
(07:44):
Then we would just have hernon-stop on the news about.
It was a, it was a no winregardless.
So he'll either get it from theleft or get it from the right,
because he didn't.
You know what I mean.
But at the end of the day, hecan hold his head held high and
he took the wind out of thesails of trump to be able to oh
this.
You know how they spend shityes, I'm playing the.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
He took the possibility of them playing
grievance politics with thetransition out of the equation
yeah even though, if you're ifyou're familiar with what
happened in 2020, when, whenbiden won and trump was in
office, uh, the transitionpractically didn't take place
because, uh, emily murphy fromthe gsa refused to certify the
(08:26):
election results and and beganthe transition for I think three
weeks it might have been.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, I think I wrote about, I think I wrote about
her and and what she did to likejust him up, just everything in
that process.
And then of course, he nevershared anything with Biden about
the, you know, the Afghanistanwithdrawal or prepping him for
that or anything like the whole.
There was no transition.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, there was no transition and, in fact, when
Biden took over the White Housein January of 2021, the
administration discovered thatthere was no pandemic response
plan.
Yeah, so, instead of liketelling the administration, like
telling the incoming bidenadministration, hey, this is
what the plan is, this is whatwe've done so far, um, they
(09:13):
didn't tell them anything, onlydiscovered that there was
absolutely no plan to roll outthe vaccines that were beginning
to be produced.
It's?
It basically cost people lives.
People died because the bidenadministration was behind on
having a plan on how to roll outthese vaccines.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And because Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Instead of spending his time in office trying to
mitigate a deadly pandemic, hewas focused on trying to
overthrow the government.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
The thing is, though, he couldn't do that because
then that would have blew up hiswhole the election was stolen.
And because, if he had, becausethat would have been a
concession to cooperate with theBiden administration incoming
Biden administration to sharethe information, and it would
have pissed off his base, and healready knew he was going to
(09:57):
take another bite at the apple.
And he needed them, angry, heneeded them jammed up, he needed
them on their side, he neededthem.
And so any concessions, anywhat appearance of quote,
unquote weakness, or whatever hewould want to call it, or
something it would have takenthe wind out of the sails and
his ability to torture us forthe next four years with his
(10:19):
bullshit.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, true story.
But you know, in case peopleare wondering out there what the
level of depravity Trump'sappointees are willing to go
through, go to in the secondadministration.
All you again.
All you got to do is look atEmily Murphy here, who refused
to certify the election resultsand begin a transition.
I mean, they're just whateverridiculous, absurd orders he
gives, they're going to followit because they did it before.
I mean, they're just whateverridiculous, absurd orders he
gives, they're going to followit because they did it before
and they'll do it again,especially now that you know
he's got presidential immunity.
He's going to fire people, he'sgoing to hire the most insane
(10:52):
people to work in hisadministration.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And not only that, but he won't even sign that
ethics pledge.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, already breaking the law, and I think a
number of Senate Democratspointed that out, but literally
no one's doing anything, whichis like hey, man, you still have
control of the Senate, you knowwhy.
Don't you open some kind ofinvestigation?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Go balls to the wall like go full on dark brand and
scorched earth on thesemotherfuckers like right,
fucking now.
I wish they would.
Burn the shit down, not not ourshit, their shit, no again
biden being the bigger person.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yes, that's fair, but , like again, senate democrats,
you still have some power, youcan use it.
But I think for me one of themost frustrating things is
watching kamala harris lose totrump by like a point and then
every elected official justgiving up and giving in to the
income.
Yes, yeah, I totally get that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I totally get that because, like when you look at
the numbers and and now you know, of course, the, the talking
point or narrative is themandate America, no, no, being
like one and a half millionvotes ahead and they're still
counting.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
There's still a million in California alone, you
know he's not even going to endup with a majority.
He's.
He's right now at a pluralityand again more votes being
counted, he could end up stilllosing the popular vote to come,
you know I was.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I was thinking today.
I was like he really didn't.
He didn't increase his base, hedidn't get any more votes and
all of the fuckery that they did, all the shenanigans that they
did with the voting.
What it was about was chippingaway at kamala's votes, not
about getting more votes fortrump, for sure.
It was like the votersuppression, the stopping
(12:41):
overseas suing to stop overseasballots.
You know 600 to 800,000overseas ballots and people
finding out that.
They're about all of thatsuppression it was about, and,
of course, jill fucking Steinand the games they played with
the Muslim community.
It was all about chipping awayat Kamala because they knew
(13:05):
Trump didn't get no new people,he just had the same old races
he always had.
I mean, he got no new.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He got really no new folks but I think he's gonna end
up with maybe what?
A million and a half, twomillion more votes than he got
in, you know, 2020, which is, Imean, I guess, for any
presidential candidate, that'swhat you want, even though he's
the worst candidate andpresident we've ever seen.
Uh, but yeah, I mean, I guessfor any presidential candidate,
that's what you want, eventhough he's the worst candidate
and president we've ever seen.
But yeah, I mean, the realdifference here was Kamala
Harris didn't hit Biden's numberfrom 2020.
(13:32):
And if she had, she would havewon.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Somebody had pointed out that in three of the blue
wall states that there were onehundred and twenty thousand
votes, and this was them.
Pointing out the the Jill Steineffect like herpes yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know what I'd rather call?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
her a herpy than a cicada.
She's a herpy, but that of thevotes that she got, it was
120,000 and those 120,000 voteshad Kamala gotten those votes
and those and the three bluewall states, she would have Won
(14:14):
the Electoral College vote andthat is why I think in Michigan,
in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, I don't know if that is why Republicans don't I
?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
don't want to end the Electoral College and why
Democrats want to one person onevote, because I would have
liked to see Kamala campaigningin Mississippi, in Alabama, in
places where Blacks have beendisenfranchised and giving them
some hope, but they had to focuson Pennsylvania, michigan.
(14:47):
Wisconsin seven states yeah,seven states determining, you
know the election.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And then it's like and, to be fair, this hurts
places like California and Texas, where you know California is
no other than Trump this is onetime being a fucking moron.
Uh, you know California is noother than Trump this is one
time being a fucking moron.
You know Republicans don'treally heavily campaign in, and
Texas Democrats have largelyceded that to Republicans
because they want to focus onplaces like North Carolina and
(15:19):
even Florida.
It's just you know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But, like I said, and somebody did do a good, he, he
did a tick tock, I don'tremember his name, but he said
you know, we got to stop puttingthis money.
We need to invest in, like Isaid, the Mississippis and the
Louisianas and the Alabamas, whohave a large black electorate
and while on their local leveltheir vote may not count because
(15:43):
of the gerrymandering in thenational election, that doesn't
matter.
But getting them energized andletting them know that you care
about them, getting them out tovote, because those votes that
they put out for her could haveswung some of those states.
It could have no states just bythe sheer numbers of the
melanin.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Mississippi theoretically could be a blue
state if every black personvoted and every black person
voted and not every single whiteperson in the state voted
against black people.
It would be a blue state.
It would be bluer than Georgia.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well, you're a little bit younger than me, d, but I
remember when Davidke wasrunning in louisiana and black
folks came the fuck, I was like90 percent turnout and I was
still.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
What was that like 90 ?
No, I was.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That was the 80s, I think, 88 no, I know that I was
old enough then and you knowgetting know, aware of politics
and stuff, and I knew who DavidDuke was and I knew that he
would not be good to have in astatewide office governor
whatever.
But I remember being so proudof the people of Louisiana for
(16:58):
coming out and making theirvoices heard and it showed what
could happen because he wasthrashed 91.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, he got his ass kicked.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, and that was the year I what I graduated.
The next year Did I graduate 91or 92?
It doesn't matter, stop givingaway your age.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But look, speaking of horrific Republican candidates
for office, or even Republicanappointees, for that matter.
Here's RFK Jr on.
Well you'll see You'll see whatthe future of our Health and
Human Services Department islike.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
You cannot trust medical advice from medical
professionals.
You cannot trust medical advicefrom medical professionals.
That doesn't mean that youdon't have a great doctor that
you should listen to, but youneed to take control of your own
health care.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, our future health and human services head
saying don't trust the advice ofmedical professionals, we're
all going to die.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What I don't understand is how does listening
to your doctor not mean thatyou're not in control of your
health care?
Your doctor is giving you theinformation and then you make
the decision Do I want to takechemotherapy, do I want to get a
second opinion?
Do I want it?
So I have been all day,actually for months, I've been
working mentally on this thing.
You know I haven't reallywritten in ages, but I'm always
(18:22):
writing in my notes and I'm likeI'm gonna, I'm you're gonna do
this, ty.
So I take notes.
Lowest common denominator andthat has been something that I
have been talking about and I go, you know, they dumb things
down to the.
They bring it to the lowestcommon denominator where there's
no nuance, there's no, and theytry to box things into like and
they use the buzzwords like oh,you need to be in control of
(18:46):
your medical, those words thatpeople yes, I need to be in
control of my medical care yeah,what does that even really mean
?
exactly, exactly.
But that's and it's.
It's so rampant among thesefucking charlatans and svengales
, and you know, with what theydo with the semantics, and
(19:07):
semantics plays into that aswell.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, it works too, because, like not only are
people in generally, generallyspeaking, uninformed and or
stupid, and that's no offense toyou know like I'm ignorant in a
lot of areas myself, this alsoapplies to me, depending on what
it is that we're talking about.
In a lot of areas myself, thisalso applies to me, depending on
what it is that we're talkingabout.
(19:31):
But, generally speaking, thelarger the crowd of people the
dumber, the idea has to be forit to proliferate, and
Republicans are taking advantageof that.
And just by dumbing everythingdown to the most simplistic
terms, to the point where it'snearly in unactionable.
But people eat this stuff upagain because you know, just
that is the way the masses work,unfortunately.
Herd psychology is a.
It's a real thing.
(19:52):
Uh, and again, look, lots ofamericans are unformed and or
stupid.
Again you can.
So there was that study wherepeople were polled on the
policies that they support.
It was like a blind poll whereyou didn't know the candidate
but you saw the policies andpeoplelled on the policies that
they support.
It was like a blind poll whereyou didn't know the candidate
but you saw the policies andpeople voted on the policies.
And then you line up theresults with the actual
(20:12):
candidates and people supportedthe policies opposite of the
candidate they voted for.
It was insane.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know what I I was thinking about.
It was like I don't know, maybea year or two ago even I was
like I was like I really want todo away with the whole
registering a party, like Idon't even think that's fucking
necessary.
Vote for the candidate, Votefor the who the fuck you want to
?
Because if you take the D andthe R away and you just look at
(20:38):
the candidate and candidateshave to campaign on actual
issues where they stand and Ithink it should be meant debates
should be mandatory period.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Like I don't know, I don't think debates are always
necessary, but I mean, I doagree in some ways.
If, if party registration forthe candidate wasn't a thing
like if you didn't know whatparty the candidate was a part
of, yeah, it would definitelyforce people to be more informed
about their opinions, uh.
But I mean, you need theparties for other purposes,
fundraising for one well, Ithink for for um like for voters
(21:13):
, yeah yeah, for candidates, forvoters, why do?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
you need to know what political affiliation I like.
I don't really fucking matter,I mean that's, I don't think it
does it, it's it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It helps the parties reach out to potential voters
and volunteers and whatnot, butit also reach out to voters, man
but not.
Well, yeah, but youunderstanding where you need to
spend your money is is importantfor a campaign and I wish they
resources, but it's also adouble-edged sword right,
because you can target the otherparty's voters and it just it
does make things a bit morecomplicated, but it muddies the
(21:49):
waters.
It definitely does.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It just like.
At this point, I think wereally do need to be, you know,
evaluate, because it gives.
I feel like it puts a target onvoters' backs when they do that
.
And now, like maybe before, buttoday, I think it's something
to to revisit and to think about.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right, well, we got, we got larger problems again.
So our future attorney generalof the United States has been
nominated by Donald Trump, andno, it's not ideal, it's not
ideal.
States has been nominated byDonald Trump.
No, it's not ideal, it's notideal.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
But here's Mike Lawler commenting on that
individual and the likelihood ofhim being confirmed.
I'm pretty sure.
I called him a clown and acharlatan.
You stand by that yeah.
Separate news.
One quick question Should aclown and a charlatan run the
Justice Department Look,obviously the president has
every right to nominate who hechooses.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
There will be a confirmation process.
We'll let that process play itout.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You see how that changed.
He was like Matt Gaetz is afucking charlatan.
If you didn't know, matt Gaetzis the nominee for the attorney
general.
And then, when he was askedwhether he would be confirmed
well you know, donald Trump isright well, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But you know John Cornyan.
I have never known how topronounce his name because the
spelling fucks me up, I guess, Idon't know he's got that extra
N Cornyan and so I want topronounce phonetically yeah, I
just read it corny, because I,because like that ain't dust.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Are you off like it's like lasagna, where the ant is
like the serving where I don'tknow, I know, but oh so matt
gates has been nominated bytrump to run in the department
of justice.
I mean, if you're aware ofanything about matt gates, you
know that's an absolute, utterdisaster.
After they spent afterRepublicans spent nearly a
decade here talking about theweaponization of the Justice
(23:47):
Department, they, you know,trump is nominating the most
unqualified right-wing jobpossible for the job, which will
no doubt Of weaponizing theJustice Department.
Yes, exactly, he'll do the verything that they've been
complaining about for years.
That's the gag, that's the joke, right of course they did it so
(24:07):
when, though, it was unfounded.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So when they do it, they're like well, now you're
getting a taste of your ownmedicine, lids, tards, whatever.
You know that.
That was the whole game.
Yeah, that was the entire gameagain and I'm gonna accuse them
for four years of weaponizingthe Justice Department.
So when I was- that he's beenunder DOJ investigation for
(24:46):
numerous things, including sincethe.
Trump administration yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, but for sexually trafficking an underage
girl that's not ideal.
Also, the drug fueled partiesand the drug fueled sex parties,
reminiscent of P Diddy,probably not the ideal candidate
.
Congressional freak-offs andthere was a bunch of infighting
in the Republican Party betweenMatt Gaetz and other slightly
(25:15):
less absurdly conservativemembers of Congress.
That resulted in conservativemembers of Congress.
That resulted in basically, youcan call this retaliation from
the right against Matt Gaetz,where they began ethics
investigation into that behavior.
The DOJ had him underinvestigation for and, well,
that resulted in the conclusionof that investigation.
(25:38):
But the House is now currentlysitting on that ethics report,
refusing to release it to thepublic, even though that was
done before the election.
They wouldn't do it then, andnow that Trump has won the
election, now it seems as thoughthat they've decided to turn
tail and not release that reportbecause it would be
extraordinarily damaging andTrump's already nominated this
(25:58):
guy to the position.
But here we have Speaker MikeJohnson commenting on his
thoughts about that.
(26:33):
So, upon receiving thenomination for Trump via Twitter
or whatever, true social,untrue social Matt Gaetz
resigned from the House, and Iguess that's giving Republicans
some cover as to feel that theydon't need to release that
congressional ethics report.
Feel that they don't need torelease that congressional
ethics report?
Uh, but again, if they had, ifthey do so, it wouldn't be the
first time that a member ofcongress has resigned before an
ethics report comes out, sodon't let them use that as a
fucking excuse.
They just don't want toembarrass trump and they don't
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want to seem as though they'reenemies of the incoming trump
administration.
Because again um, you know wetalk about this numerous times
here the first thing hitler didwhen the nazis came to power is
he cleared out the nazi partyyeah, he went after his own
people okay, maybe they need tolook into some fucking history,
because trump's well, I'm notgonna say his memory is like an
(27:16):
elephant, but his vengeance isin that, his revenge.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And he's got a kill list, not literally, but
figuratively, career-wise.
On those I've got a disclaimerhere.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But yeah, he's like.
He's definitely an elephant interms of remembering everyone
who's wronged him yeah, eventhose kids in his ass right now.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
He's, he's gonna, he's enjoying it because he
likes having his ass kids.
However, he has not forgivenyou folks.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And I'm sure he's got a list of enemies inside the
party and out that he's going totake his vengeance on.
And I would suggest, if you'rea Republican somehow listening
to this podcast, if you havedirt on Donald Trump, you might
want to release that now beforehe can take vengeance upon you.
So, despite the fact that MattGaetz is a terrible potential
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nominee to run the Department ofJustice and all these other
insane people that Trump isbringing into his administration
, you got to wonder what are thelikelihood, what is the
likelihood of success in gettingthese people confirmed?
Well, mike Johnson has somethoughts on that as well.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Listen, I believe in the principle of a new president
being able to choose his team,and that used to not be a
controversial notion.
We're in a time of very dividedgovernment and a very partisan
atmosphere in Washington.
I wish it were not.
I wish the Senate would simplydo its job of advice and consent
and allow the president to putthe persons in his cabinet of
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his choosing.
But if this thing bogs down, itwould be a great detriment to
the country, to the Americanpeople.
Remember, they just delivered amandate to the president, an
overwhelming popular votevictory and, course, electoral
college victory, and they havesent the message that America
first, policies are, should bethe rule of the day.
So the persons that thepresident is choosing will help
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with that agenda.
They will take their leadershipin these agencies and they will
reform them as the peopleexpect and demand.
So we'll evaluate all that atthe appropriate time and we'll
make the appropriate decision.
There may be a function forthat and we'll have to see how
it plays out.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
OK, there goes that mandate word again.
Yeah, that seems to be the worddu jour that they're all going
to use, given the falseimpression that it was somehow
an indictment on the Democratsthat no one of the smallest
popular vote margins in history,I think.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Except for Al Gore, yeah it was like one of the two,
two smallest, but yeah, thatfunction that Mike Johnson is
talking about there that mightbe an opportunity to have
Trump's cabinet nomineesconfirmed is called a recess
appointment, and that is whenCongress recesses for any amount
of time, generally speaking inthis, in this regard, a period
(30:06):
longer than 10 days, trump canjust have all of his nominees
confirmed as acting heads oftheir individual departments for
a period of two years or so,which means they would bypass
the Senate confirmation process,hearings and all that Well
that's the.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
That's the curious part, because they have a pretty
significant majority in theincoming new session.
So why would you want to recess?
You got your Senate.
Unless you are concerned, thenwhy do you not want to do
background checks?
So this little pomp andcircumstance and fluff shit that
they do.
(30:46):
And I swear to god, mikejohnson is so smug I I want to
his face.
Uh, I'm not gonna say violentthings, but he, he has a very
punchable face, I know exactlywhat you're saying.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But yeah, no, clearly there would be no need for
recess appointments.
Generally speaking, you wouldthink if these nominees were
worthy of doing the job and thefact that Republicans have,
we'll have a four seat majorityin the Senate and probably a
five six seat majority in theHouse, although votes are still
being counted at this point, sothat might be up for grabs A few
(31:27):
of those seats.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, derek Tran.
Just he's up by like 36 votesor something like that over
Michelle Steele and they'restill counting, so I'm hopefully
Even if you live in a bluestate.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
every vote matters.
Just keep that in mind for yourcongressional representation.
But yeah, you would think evenwith a, you know, a reasonable
majority in both houses, theywould be able to get these
appointments confirmed of viewthat they don't have the votes
(32:02):
in the Senate, which means thatTrump is looking for any various
ways that he could find toskirt the Constitution to get
the worst people into hisadministration running it into
the ground.
Of course they constantly playthese games.
It never stops, and again withjust more Trump insanity.
What you have coming for you ina second Trump administration,
(32:24):
it's not ideal.
But here's Ron Goldman onTrump's proposal of him serving
for not just two terms but athird term.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Isn't that already clear?
Don't we already know that?
Like?
Don't we already know that?
Yes, it is very clear, which iswhy it should be very easy for
every single Republican memberof Congress to vote in favor of
this resolution.
But Donald Trump as you pointout, chris has joked, quote
unquote, about many differentthings, including, as I remember
, in 2018, he joked aboutpardoning himself.
(32:58):
Then that became completelynormalized and everyone just
expected him to pardon himselfif he won.
This time, the same thing hasbeen happening.
He has mentioned this over andover and over again for years
now, and his jokes are not jokes.
Nobody takes them as jokes.
They are trial balloons.
They are very intentionallydesigned to soften the response
(33:24):
and then to normalize hisunconstitutional and
anti-democratic goals.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah.
So Trump has been floating theidea of running for a third term
on the idea the premise thatbecause he did not serve two
consecutive terms and that the22nd amendment, which states
that no president should holdoffice for more than two terms,
only counts for consecutiveterms, Now again, obviously
that's ridiculous and absurd onits face.
(33:50):
But on the flip side of that wehave a Supreme court.
And look again, this is likeyou got to take a lot of things
for granted here.
The trouble, even be alive infour years like that.
I wouldn't necessarily bet mymoney on that.
But we do have a Supreme Courtwho is, at this point, largely
or at least a majority of themserve as a rubber stamp for
(34:11):
Trump and they can interpret theConstitution any way that they
see fit and they do and they do.
And they have in a way that theycould look at the 22nd
Amendment and come to theconclusion that because it just
says two terms, that it doesn'tmean Trump served two terms and
(34:32):
can no longer serve.
They'll take his position orcould take his position.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Two points.
It's Dan Goldman, not RonGoldman.
Did I say Ron Goldman?
I don't know why I said thatdan goldman.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know what I mean, bro, my bad dog, we he's still
good he's not he.
No, yes, ron goldman was theguy look man, I'm stuck in the
90s, I've been.
I'm stuck in the 90s, all right, and number.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And number two, if they did rule that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Oh yeah, obama, Trump in 2020.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, obama putting on that jersey, like LeBron in
the mean.
Yeah, he's like coming out ofretirement yo.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And then you're doing all the ducks and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I mean he's always playing, you know.
He seems like he wants to runagainst Obama anyway.
So this I mean, just give theboy what he wants.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, let him do it.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Give him what he wants.
Yeah, let him do it, give himwhat he wants.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But no.
So look, it's absurd that we'reeven having this discussion
like there are probably moreimportant things going on in the
world as we speak, but thisjust highlights one of the
issues is it's just been aconstant problem over the course
of like a decade.
Now.
Trump says all this absurd shitunder the guise of it being a
(35:44):
joke, when actually he doesn'ttell jokes, none of this is a
joke.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
He is planting seeds, just like he said every single
election he's ever run in If Idon't win, it's rigged.
If I don't win.
He plants seeds, then sees howthings go, how they play out
2020, he got smashed, so then hewas able to run with it Every
other time.
You know it ended up going hisway and then the claims just
(36:13):
disappeared.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I mean, he claimed that the 2016 election
was rigged before the votes werecast, but when he won and he
was like well, actually, so what?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
happened to all those rigged votes like?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
well, he did say that on anything he did say that the
2020 election was riggedbecause if it hadn't been, he
would have won the popular votetoo you just like oh my god,
this guy just disappeared andthen nobody ever brings it up
again.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
No, like nobody ever challenges him or brings it up
again.
And I just I hate to break itto msnbc, cnn, all their
journalists and anchors you'rebeing pogromed anyway.
So go balls to the fucking walland do something, say something
to save democracy, becauseyou're getting no grace once
(37:05):
he's sworn in.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
No, they're not going to do that again and,
unfortunately for them, theyspent the past two years
believing that if Trump happenedto win the election in twenty
two and four, that it would be aboon for their ratings.
But, as they're finding outafter the election, uh,
viewership for both cnn andmsnbc is in the dumpster, it is
(37:29):
in the toilet.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
It is, uh, you know, just record lows because they
shit on their base of viewershipand we tried to tell them come
on cnn, what are you doing?
Come on msnbc, what are youdoing?
Come them, come on CNN, whatare you doing?
Come on MSNBC, what are youdoing?
Come on yo, Come on yo, Come onyo.
But they still wanted to playfootsie with fascism, and now
(37:51):
they laying off folks.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I don't know whoever came over the term same
washing, but it was anincredibly accurate depiction of
what it is they do incrediblyaccurate depiction.
Yeah, it is, they do.
I've been calling it softselling for for years now, not,
not.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I mean sane washing is a thing.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It is appropriate, because we use whitewashing when
it comes to history so sanewashing in today's time is
completely accurate, for sure,but what they've been doing is
pitching trump and all of hisabsurdity, even though they
cover it.
They cover it as though it'slike an, a reason, it's a
reasonable alternative to whatthe other side of the aisle is
offering, in an attempt to makeit seem like, you know,
(38:33):
reasonable.
People have a choice betweenthese two candidates.
When the truth is reasonable,people only have one choice and
anyone choosing the alternativeand Trump is choosing utter
insanity and it's coming back tohaunt them at this point
because people who typically Isthis a comment about uncommitted
Not only them, but you know,look, and I'm not saying that
(38:59):
just because you watch the news,you're informed, and because
you don't watch the news, you'renot informed.
That's not what I'm saying.
Set of critical thinkingrequired to view that
information and and know whenthey're being peddled some
(39:23):
bullshit and exactly thosenetworks have decided they're no
longer going to continue to bepeddled this bullshit.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Well, exactly we're that cognizant on the left to be
like, no, you're not going togaslight us over here, you're
not going to do this shit.
But fox viewers, oam viewers onthe on of right wing media,
they don't have that sameability because literally
everything they say can befact-checked, debunked.
(39:51):
And me personally I would beoffended like bitch.
Did you really just play in myface like that?
Because right here I'm like youknow what I'm saying but.
But I think also a lot thatgoes into that is they don't
want to know.
Yeah that's I think a lot of itis and and you know it's willful
(40:14):
, because they don't want to betaken out of their echo chamber
because then they're going tohave to reconcile some shit
within themselves, their ownintellect, intelligence, their
own willing to buy into.
So they put so much in.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
At this point they're like yeah, people's identity on
the right is probably committedto the things that they
identify with on the right, andso any sources of outside
information they would justrefuse to accept, especially if
it's coming from their whiteright wing.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I do that every time if it comes from their right
wing outlets.
Well, I mean, both terms areappropriate.
No, that's probably why I do itRight wing.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
No, yeah, they refuse to accept that information, but
especially from their rightwing outlets, because that is
where they go to to have theiridentities confirmed.
And that's why you saw thatshift after the 2020 election,
where a lot of Fox News viewerswere moving to OAN and Newsmax.
Fox News decided hey, you know,we made a mistake in trying to
(41:22):
make some actual, accurateinformation in with the
propaganda.
And then they just they, theywent full steam.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
They just went all in .
They're like fuck it Murdoch'srich, we got another billion,
whatever?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, they didn't want to lose their viewers, so
they doubled down.
Now again, fox News lost threequarters of a billion dollars
for lying about the outcome ofthe 2020 election.
Uh, no one seems to ever bringthat up.
And again we covered those, um,some of the information in
those depositions where foxknows that they're just outright
lying to their viewers and theythink they're fucking morons.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
It's crazy and that and that and the the craziest
part is that even that wasn't awake up call.
So when Fox was trying to liketoe the line a little bit after
making that, you know, gettingrid of Tucker Carlson, whatever
and after that settlement, theirviewers were like what's that
(42:19):
drake mean?
No, I don't want to like, youknow what I'm saying.
Instead of going like youmotherfuckers got my dad killed.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
You got my uncle killed, like my wife is dead
because of your lies and webelieved you, etc yeah,
interaction, where you know alot of people they know or
follow on social media ended upin prison because of it and
people just it just erased thefact that Fox is propaganda from
their minds and just continueto swallow it down because it
(42:51):
reaffirms their, their alreadypreconceived notions and long
held beliefs.
It's insane.
We live in the most insanetimes.
I mean, you know, I know me andyou.
There's nothing we cannecessarily do about that.
We can only talk to the peoplewho are actually open to real,
factual information or seeminglyrealistic opinions.
We try and do our best to staywithin the realm of reason over
(43:14):
here.
That's not a Fox News specialty, but we have a clip of Adam
Schiff on Trump's comments abouthim being the enemy within and
the possibility of usingmilitary action against Schiff
and people like him in Congress.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary
, by national guard or, ifreally necessary, by the
military, because they can't letthat happen.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Do you think that he was talking about using the
military against you and howconcerned are you about
retribution?
Clearly that's what he wastalking about.
Would he go to that link withthe military, essentially
fulfill some kind of aunconstitutional order?
I would hope the military wouldhave more independence than
that.
Historically, the military hasstood up to civilian authority
(44:07):
where civilian authority hassuggested, as in his first
administration, unconstitutionalacts.
Look, I'm not going to beintimidated by anything he says,
by anything he does.
If I was, I wouldn't be on yourshow.
I'm going to do myresponsibility in the Senate.
Californians are expecting me,first and foremost, to try to
work and get things done.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
work across the aisle where the president wants Now.
So I know a lot of people arethinking hey, the military would
never go along with someunconstitutional or illegal
order from Trump.
They would never engage in suchbehavior.
And I've got bad news for you.
It doesn't require the entiretyof the military apparatus to do
(44:49):
something like I don't know,arrest Adam Schiff or Democratic
members of Congress.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
It only takes I already know that the military
is infiltrated.
I mean there have been reportsby the FBI with white
supremacists, etc.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
You know all that good stuff.
Yeah, just you know, right wingmagnet jobs.
The military is filled withthem.
You don't need the entirety ofthe military apparatus to carry
out some Trump's illegal orders.
You only need, you know, ahandful of officers and some
willing grunts to do the job.
And again, I'm sure theNational Guard at this point is
(45:26):
probably filled to the brim withright wing Trump supporters who
would love to have themselvesfederalized in service of Trump
to carry out some of hishorrific plans and agenda in
2025.
Some of his horrific plans andagenda in 2025.
So you know anyone who's and Idon't want to be like a Demi
Downer, doomer, gloomer typedude, but like, just like you
(45:47):
have to be prepared for the factthat Trump is going to order
the people in his employ to doterrible things and that there
are enough people out therewilling to engage in those
actions to engage in that andcarry that shit out.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
And, and you know, my concern is, you know, suicides
are up, especially in the navy.
So in the navy, cruel assaultsare up in the military, and you
know the radicalization.
They're always playing fox, fox, fox, fox, fox.
Only on the bases, which shouldhave been stopped.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
But that's the first thing Biden should have done
when he got in the office is cutFox News off of these
government billings.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Persons of color in the military, women in the
military they're going to be anincredible danger in a Trump
presidency.
They are going to be inincredible danger.
Any LGBTQ person in themilitary and this whole thing
there, when they go on about, oh, our woke military.
It's demoralizing.
No, what's demoralizing is whenyou can keep saying that our
(46:56):
military is shit, our militaryis this, our military is that.
You know, these are brothersand sisters in green, blue,
white, the you know, in uniform,and there needs to be a trust
and there needs to be and youneed to.
You've got a lot of people upfor the military and that gives
(47:21):
you the opportunity to make aliving, take care of your family
, come back, get money, go tocollege, buy a home, but you
ain't never seen a black person,not on cops.
You know what I'm saying.
When you get there and then youare surrounded by this diverse,
but you need to learn that youcan't just go around calling
(47:42):
somebody boy that you can't go.
You know because that, butthat's how they grew up, that's
all they've known.
You know what I mean.
So you have these.
Diversity, equity, inclusion islike okay, we all need to rely
on each other here, because weare all here.
You need to.
I need to know that you have myback.
I need to know that you have myback.
You need to know that I haveyour back.
(48:03):
There needs to be a trust.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Well, the trust is about to go down buddy.
Um, yeah, you know, one thing Ireally worry about, just given
the state of affairs, when, soyou know, our military is an
all-volunteer force, we don'thave conscripts, uh.
So when you have a situationlike this, where you've got an
extraordinarily divisive figurethat's about to become
commander-in-chief, and racismrunning rampant, sexual assault,
(48:31):
hate crimes, all of that stuff,you have the potential for a
lot of minorities and people inthe LGBT community, and women as
well, who just quit themilitary.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, they just leave , they don't reenlist.
Yeah, they leave the force andthese are crucial people in so
many areas of our forces andthen their idea of like we're
going to get out the woke.
What they mean is like we'regoing to.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
We're going to you know, women, black, brown people
, every person of color andevery female, every lgbtq person
.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah, because, like we can't hide, you know, if
you're a white person, you don'ttalk about politics, nobody
knows where you lean, butaccording to them, my skin color
tells them.
I'm woke, yeah, unless I'm justoutwardly trumping.
You know, know, tim Scott andDonald Byron, donaldson.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
But I did see the like my my the first black
person with the MAGA hat on inthe wild the other day, so I was
like, oh it's, it's tough outhere, but no.
So yeah, and Trump also hasthis, you know, plans to fire
all of the generals whotheoretically draft executive
order.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
fire all of the generals who theoretically draft
executive order.
I was reading about that.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
So any generals out here who don't sign the loyalty
oath to Trump specifically, Iimagine they're gone, as well as
anyone else that he perceivesto be part of the quote, unquote
, woke agenda.
So if the leadership is gone,there would be a bulwark to
anything illegal that Trumpwants to use the military for,
along with, you know, massresignations or just people
refusing to reenlist.
(50:05):
You know, look, we'll have.
We'll have ceded our militaryto the fascists and Trump will
use them in whatever way he seesfit.
And again with their plans formass deportations at the
beginning of 2025, just itspells disaster.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Just call it what it is mass incarcerations.
They're going to Jaeger.
That's it.
It's not.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Okay, you're right, you know what?
That's fair.
We should just drop the termmass deportations, because those
aren't a thing, largely because, again, to deport people there
needs to be a destinationavailable for them to be
deported to, and you cannotforce countries to take your
deportees.
It's just, that's not a thing.
I mean, maybe there will besome countries willing to kind
(50:52):
of butter up Trump by acceptingthat, but I'm assuming at this
point it's not likely or evenfeasible.
Then, even if you wanted toround up millions of people to
send them somewhere, you have toround them up and put them
somewhere first, because there'sno
One, two, three, four podcast where, after trump
winning the election and miketyson losing to a youtuber,
black people across the countryhave never been more down bad.
We just can't have no pictures.
It's rough out there for yourboys.
It's rough out there for mypeople.
You gotta have our backs tosupport us in these crazy ass
weeks it's been something.
(00:42):
Uh, I and I've been trying totell people, man, uh, I mean not
, this is important because wedo have some important things to
get to, but like the universe,just or at least this country in
particular has just become areality tv show.
There's absolutely no way, uh,mike tyson should be 58 years
old, should be out here justboxing a youtuber.
But what's more absurd is thefact that if you watch Tyson
(01:05):
train, you're like, oh, he'sactually in really good shape.
And then you watch the fightand you're like, oh, he could
have killed him at any time anddidn't.
This is all for show.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Did you read the uh, the, the rules, the contract?
No, the contract was so crazysomebody was going through and
it was like, oh okay, if heknocked him out in the first
round, tyson would be penalizedfinancially.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And then it was like the same, it was just all this
shit hamstring because basicallythey wanted to draw it out
number one once I saw the well,I saw the part about where he
wouldn't get his bag if, the, ifit ended in a ko in the first
round, I was like like, oh, thisis, I'm out, I don't.
I didn't even watch it in realtime.
I woke up the next day, checkedout you know a few of the
(01:53):
rounds and I was like, oh, cause, I saw there was one point
where Tyson stuck him with a jabreally hard, knocked him off
balance and made him drop hisleft hand and when he didn't go
in for the kill shot right there, because I mean obviously the
next, yeah, the next course ofmoves is like you come with the
heavy right, hit the body, blowand then you throw up a cut and
(02:13):
it's all over.
And when he didn't do that, Iwas like, oh, this is, this is
some bullshit.
And I just yeah, you knowforget.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know it's sad, it's.
It's really sad that I mean Idon't know if he needed the
money, because I do know thatit's sad, it's.
It's really sad that I mean Idon't know if he needed the
money, because I do know thathe's had some financial issues
in his time, you know, after hiscareer and everything thanks to
Don King.
But I'm just like they want to.
My first thing in my mind wasthey want to remove black folks
(02:41):
from everything.
They want to remove black folksfrom everything.
They're pumping up this.
I'm dead ass serious.
It sounds silly, but I was likeand now they take, they're
taking back boxing.
You know what I mean?
Like they're taking back boxingand they're propping up this,
jake Paul.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Then you got to have all these rules and I don't know
, man, where's the dignity?
Well, you know, Mike, that kidasked Mike Tyson about his
legacy and he was like, legacymeans nothing, we're all going
to die.
And I was like, oh yeah.
And then when I saw the fight,he's like, yeah, he clearly
chose the bag over his leg.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, he was like what the fuck?
I hear about a legacy and look.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I ain't judging Like.
If I had the opportunity tomake 20 million dollars by
standing around throwing punchesat Jake Paul but not really
trying to end it, I'd probablydo it.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I was angry, bunny.
She made a good point and shewas like, oh great, so a
convicted rapist and accusedrapists are fighting, cool.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was like, ok, okay, that's fair yeah look, I don't
even know how to talk about miketyson from a moral perspective.
Like it's it's.
It's difficult to evencomprehend the insanity that
went into creating what theperson mike tyson became over
the course of his boxing career.
A lot of detestable things.
I know he was convicted on arape count, but and you know
(04:06):
we're in the space of let'slet's try to believe women if
possible.
This is one of the weird caseswhere I might make an exception
in Mike Tyson's case, notbecause I think Mike Tyson is a
good person, but mostly becausehe is actually willing to admit
to you just how terrible of aperson he was, of what person he
is, to admit to you just howterrible of a person he was, of
what person he is, and he waslike I actually didn't do that
(04:27):
one thing, but I was so bad inall these other ways that I
deserved, for instance.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I mean when you are like okay, that was just okay, I
didn't do that, but I did somuch other dirt.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, just go ahead and lock me other dirt.
Yeah, just go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That was just my karma.
I deserved it for all the shitI didn't get caught for.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It is now we even like I don't know, like yeah,
it's hard to.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean, I don't know, I don't want to take a side on
that, but it's just, it's funnythat he's willing to admit just
how bad he was and he was like,even though I didn't do this, I
deserve it.
That's some wild stuff.
But speaking of spectacle, uh,so of course you know, trump won
the election.
Sad for america, but uh, bidenin the world, of course, and
(05:20):
biden is, of course, taking thehigher role where he invited
trump to meet him in the WhiteHouse to talk about the
transition that would need totake place.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Make sure you're accommodating what you need.
We're going to get a chance totalk about some of that today
and thank you very much.
And politics is tough and it'sin many cases not a very nice
world, but it is a nice worldtoday and I appreciate it very
much.
A transition that's so smoothit'll be as smooth as it can get
(05:56):
and I very much appreciate that.
Jim, you're welcome.
Thank you all.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So a couple of things .
There is first of all, you know, I don't know how to feel about
Biden being the bigger man inthis situation when trump is
threatened to basically have joebiden killed along with kamala
harris and and to do detestablethings to his son.
But he's clearly a betterperson than I am.
That's why he made a betterpresident than I would ever make
.
Uh, but uh, it's quite funny.
(06:41):
So there's also this other clipof him running around with
Trump at the White House wherephotographers are taking
pictures and if you notice, inboth of those like, for some
reason Biden seemsextraordinarily happy, for
whatever reason, while Trump is.
Like I wonder what's going onthere.
I wonder why Biden is so happybut Trump isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
You know.
You know there were a lot ofpeople were big, a lot of people
were mad, many were disgustedat this.
But this exact thing is why wechose him, because at the end of
the day, he will always be adiplomat, he will always be
diplomatic in his process, hewill always be gracious when it
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comes to that arena and you justcan't shake.
You know, 60 years of that'sjust who he is, not just as a
politician but as a man ingeneral.
And for him it would do Americano favors for him to be petty
about it it really wouldn't.
And then it would just that.
(07:44):
Then we would just have hernon-stop on the news about.
It was a, it was a no winregardless.
So he'll either get it from theleft or get it from the right,
because he didn't.
You know what I mean.
But at the end of the day, hecan hold his head held high and
he took the wind out of thesails of trump to be able to oh
this.
You know how they spend shityes, I'm playing the.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
He took the possibility of them playing
grievance politics with thetransition out of the equation
yeah even though, if you're ifyou're familiar with what
happened in 2020, when, whenbiden won and trump was in
office, uh, the transitionpractically didn't take place
because, uh, emily murphy fromthe gsa refused to certify the
(08:26):
election results and and beganthe transition for I think three
weeks it might have been.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, I think I wrote about, I think I wrote about
her and and what she did to likejust him up, just everything in
that process.
And then of course, he nevershared anything with Biden about
the, you know, the Afghanistanwithdrawal or prepping him for
that or anything like the whole.
There was no transition.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, there was no transition and, in fact, when
Biden took over the White Housein January of 2021, the
administration discovered thatthere was no pandemic response
plan.
Yeah, so, instead of liketelling the administration, like
telling the incoming bidenadministration, hey, this is
what the plan is, this is whatwe've done so far, um, they
(09:13):
didn't tell them anything, onlydiscovered that there was
absolutely no plan to roll outthe vaccines that were beginning
to be produced.
It's?
It basically cost people lives.
People died because the bidenadministration was behind on
having a plan on how to roll outthese vaccines.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And because Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Instead of spending his time in office trying to
mitigate a deadly pandemic, hewas focused on trying to
overthrow the government.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
The thing is, though, he couldn't do that because
then that would have blew up hiswhole the election was stolen.
And because, if he had, becausethat would have been a
concession to cooperate with theBiden administration incoming
Biden administration to sharethe information, and it would
have pissed off his base, and healready knew he was going to
(09:57):
take another bite at the apple.
And he needed them, angry, heneeded them jammed up, he needed
them on their side, he neededthem.
And so any concessions, anywhat appearance of quote,
unquote weakness, or whatever hewould want to call it, or
something it would have takenthe wind out of the sails and
his ability to torture us forthe next four years with his
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bullshit.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, true story.
But you know, in case peopleare wondering out there what the
level of depravity Trump'sappointees are willing to go
through, go to in the secondadministration.
All you again.
All you got to do is look atEmily Murphy here, who refused
to certify the election resultsand begin a transition.
I mean, they're just whateverridiculous, absurd orders he
gives, they're going to followit because they did it before.
I mean, they're just whateverridiculous, absurd orders he
gives, they're going to followit because they did it before
and they'll do it again,especially now that you know
he's got presidential immunity.
He's going to fire people, he'sgoing to hire the most insane
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people to work in hisadministration.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And not only that, but he won't even sign that
ethics pledge.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, already breaking the law, and I think a
number of Senate Democratspointed that out, but literally
no one's doing anything, whichis like hey, man, you still have
control of the Senate, you knowwhy.
Don't you open some kind ofinvestigation?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Go balls to the wall like go full on dark brand and
scorched earth on thesemotherfuckers like right,
fucking now.
I wish they would.
Burn the shit down, not not ourshit, their shit, no again
biden being the bigger person.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yes, that's fair, but , like again, senate democrats,
you still have some power, youcan use it.
But I think for me one of themost frustrating things is
watching kamala harris lose totrump by like a point and then
every elected official justgiving up and giving in to the
income.
Yes, yeah, I totally get that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I totally get that because, like when you look at
the numbers and and now you know, of course, the, the talking
point or narrative is themandate America, no, no, being
like one and a half millionvotes ahead and they're still
counting.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
There's still a million in California alone, you
know he's not even going to endup with a majority.
He's.
He's right now at a pluralityand again more votes being
counted, he could end up stilllosing the popular vote to come,
you know I was.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I was thinking today.
I was like he really didn't.
He didn't increase his base, hedidn't get any more votes and
all of the fuckery that they did, all the shenanigans that they
did with the voting.
What it was about was chippingaway at kamala's votes, not
about getting more votes fortrump, for sure.
It was like the votersuppression, the stopping
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overseas suing to stop overseasballots.
You know 600 to 800,000overseas ballots and people
finding out that.
They're about all of thatsuppression it was about, and,
of course, jill fucking Steinand the games they played with
the Muslim community.
It was all about chipping awayat Kamala because they knew
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Trump didn't get no new people,he just had the same old races
he always had.
I mean, he got no new.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He got really no new folks but I think he's gonna end
up with maybe what?
A million and a half, twomillion more votes than he got
in, you know, 2020, which is, Imean, I guess, for any
presidential candidate, that'swhat you want, even though he's
the worst candidate andpresident we've ever seen.
Uh, but yeah, I mean, I guessfor any presidential candidate,
that's what you want, eventhough he's the worst candidate
and president we've ever seen.
But yeah, I mean, the realdifference here was Kamala
Harris didn't hit Biden's numberfrom 2020.
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And if she had, she would havewon.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Somebody had pointed out that in three of the blue
wall states that there were onehundred and twenty thousand
votes, and this was them.
Pointing out the the Jill Steineffect like herpes yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know what I'd rather call?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
her a herpy than a cicada.
She's a herpy, but that of thevotes that she got, it was
120,000 and those 120,000 voteshad Kamala gotten those votes
and those and the three bluewall states, she would have Won
(14:14):
the Electoral College vote andthat is why I think in Michigan,
in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, I don't know if that is why Republicans don't I
?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
don't want to end the Electoral College and why
Democrats want to one person onevote, because I would have
liked to see Kamala campaigningin Mississippi, in Alabama, in
places where Blacks have beendisenfranchised and giving them
some hope, but they had to focuson Pennsylvania, michigan.
(14:47):
Wisconsin seven states yeah,seven states determining, you
know the election.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And then it's like and, to be fair, this hurts
places like California and Texas, where you know California is
no other than Trump this is onetime being a fucking moron.
Uh, you know California is noother than Trump this is one
time being a fucking moron.
You know Republicans don'treally heavily campaign in, and
Texas Democrats have largelyceded that to Republicans
because they want to focus onplaces like North Carolina and
(15:19):
even Florida.
It's just you know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But, like I said, and somebody did do a good, he, he
did a tick tock, I don'tremember his name, but he said
you know, we got to stop puttingthis money.
We need to invest in, like Isaid, the Mississippis and the
Louisianas and the Alabamas, whohave a large black electorate
and while on their local leveltheir vote may not count because
(15:43):
of the gerrymandering in thenational election, that doesn't
matter.
But getting them energized andletting them know that you care
about them, getting them out tovote, because those votes that
they put out for her could haveswung some of those states.
It could have no states just bythe sheer numbers of the
melanin.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Mississippi theoretically could be a blue
state if every black personvoted and every black person
voted and not every single whiteperson in the state voted
against black people.
It would be a blue state.
It would be bluer than Georgia.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well, you're a little bit younger than me, d, but I
remember when Davidke wasrunning in louisiana and black
folks came the fuck, I was like90 percent turnout and I was
still.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
What was that like 90 ?
No, I was.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That was the 80s, I think, 88 no, I know that I was
old enough then and you knowgetting know, aware of politics
and stuff, and I knew who DavidDuke was and I knew that he
would not be good to have in astatewide office governor
whatever.
But I remember being so proudof the people of Louisiana for
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coming out and making theirvoices heard and it showed what
could happen because he wasthrashed 91.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, he got his ass kicked.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, and that was the year I what I graduated.
The next year Did I graduate 91or 92?
It doesn't matter, stop givingaway your age.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But look, speaking of horrific Republican candidates
for office, or even Republicanappointees, for that matter.
Here's RFK Jr on.
Well you'll see You'll see whatthe future of our Health and
Human Services Department islike.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
You cannot trust medical advice from medical
professionals.
You cannot trust medical advicefrom medical professionals.
That doesn't mean that youdon't have a great doctor that
you should listen to, but youneed to take control of your own
health care.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, our future health and human services head
saying don't trust the advice ofmedical professionals, we're
all going to die.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What I don't understand is how does listening
to your doctor not mean thatyou're not in control of your
health care?
Your doctor is giving you theinformation and then you make
the decision Do I want to takechemotherapy, do I want to get a
second opinion?
Do I want it?
So I have been all day,actually for months, I've been
working mentally on this thing.
You know I haven't reallywritten in ages, but I'm always
(18:22):
writing in my notes and I'm likeI'm gonna, I'm you're gonna do
this, ty.
So I take notes.
Lowest common denominator andthat has been something that I
have been talking about and I go, you know, they dumb things
down to the.
They bring it to the lowestcommon denominator where there's
no nuance, there's no, and theytry to box things into like and
they use the buzzwords like oh,you need to be in control of
(18:46):
your medical, those words thatpeople yes, I need to be in
control of my medical care yeah,what does that even really mean
?
exactly, exactly.
But that's and it's.
It's so rampant among thesefucking charlatans and svengales
, and you know, with what theydo with the semantics, and
(19:07):
semantics plays into that aswell.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, it works too, because, like not only are
people in generally, generallyspeaking, uninformed and or
stupid, and that's no offense toyou know like I'm ignorant in a
lot of areas myself, this alsoapplies to me, depending on what
it is that we're talking about.
In a lot of areas myself, thisalso applies to me, depending on
what it is that we're talkingabout.
(19:31):
But, generally speaking, thelarger the crowd of people the
dumber, the idea has to be forit to proliferate, and
Republicans are taking advantageof that.
And just by dumbing everythingdown to the most simplistic
terms, to the point where it'snearly in unactionable.
But people eat this stuff upagain because you know, just
that is the way the masses work,unfortunately.
Herd psychology is a.
It's a real thing.
(19:52):
Uh, and again, look, lots ofamericans are unformed and or
stupid.
Again you can.
So there was that study wherepeople were polled on the
policies that they support.
It was like a blind poll whereyou didn't know the candidate
but you saw the policies andpeoplelled on the policies that
they support.
It was like a blind poll whereyou didn't know the candidate
but you saw the policies andpeople voted on the policies.
And then you line up theresults with the actual
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candidates and people supportedthe policies opposite of the
candidate they voted for.
It was insane.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know what I I was thinking about.
It was like I don't know, maybea year or two ago even I was
like I was like I really want todo away with the whole
registering a party, like Idon't even think that's fucking
necessary.
Vote for the candidate, Votefor the who the fuck you want to
?
Because if you take the D andthe R away and you just look at
(20:38):
the candidate and candidateshave to campaign on actual
issues where they stand and Ithink it should be meant debates
should be mandatory period.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Like I don't know, I don't think debates are always
necessary, but I mean, I doagree in some ways.
If, if party registration forthe candidate wasn't a thing
like if you didn't know whatparty the candidate was a part
of, yeah, it would definitelyforce people to be more informed
about their opinions, uh.
But I mean, you need theparties for other purposes,
fundraising for one well, Ithink for for um like for voters
(21:13):
, yeah yeah, for candidates, forvoters, why do?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
you need to know what political affiliation I like.
I don't really fucking matter,I mean that's, I don't think it
does it, it's it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It helps the parties reach out to potential voters
and volunteers and whatnot, butit also reach out to voters, man
but not.
Well, yeah, but youunderstanding where you need to
spend your money is is importantfor a campaign and I wish they
resources, but it's also adouble-edged sword right,
because you can target the otherparty's voters and it just it
does make things a bit morecomplicated, but it muddies the
(21:49):
waters.
It definitely does.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It just like.
At this point, I think wereally do need to be, you know,
evaluate, because it gives.
I feel like it puts a target onvoters' backs when they do that
.
And now, like maybe before, buttoday, I think it's something
to to revisit and to think about.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right, well, we got, we got larger problems again.
So our future attorney generalof the United States has been
nominated by Donald Trump, andno, it's not ideal, it's not
ideal.
States has been nominated byDonald Trump.
No, it's not ideal, it's notideal.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
But here's Mike Lawler commenting on that
individual and the likelihood ofhim being confirmed.
I'm pretty sure.
I called him a clown and acharlatan.
You stand by that yeah.
Separate news.
One quick question Should aclown and a charlatan run the
Justice Department Look,obviously the president has
every right to nominate who hechooses.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
There will be a confirmation process.
We'll let that process play itout.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You see how that changed.
He was like Matt Gaetz is afucking charlatan.
If you didn't know, matt Gaetzis the nominee for the attorney
general.
And then, when he was askedwhether he would be confirmed
well you know, donald Trump isright well, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But you know John Cornyan.
I have never known how topronounce his name because the
spelling fucks me up, I guess, Idon't know he's got that extra
N Cornyan and so I want topronounce phonetically yeah, I
just read it corny, because I,because like that ain't dust.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Are you off like it's like lasagna, where the ant is
like the serving where I don'tknow, I know, but oh so matt
gates has been nominated bytrump to run in the department
of justice.
I mean, if you're aware ofanything about matt gates, you
know that's an absolute, utterdisaster.
After they spent afterRepublicans spent nearly a
decade here talking about theweaponization of the Justice
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Department, they, you know,trump is nominating the most
unqualified right-wing jobpossible for the job, which will
no doubt Of weaponizing theJustice Department.
Yes, exactly, he'll do the verything that they've been
complaining about for years.
That's the gag, that's the joke, right of course they did it so
(24:07):
when, though, it was unfounded.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So when they do it, they're like well, now you're
getting a taste of your ownmedicine, lids, tards, whatever.
You know that.
That was the whole game.
Yeah, that was the entire gameagain and I'm gonna accuse them
for four years of weaponizingthe Justice Department.
So when I was- that he's beenunder DOJ investigation for
(24:46):
numerous things, including sincethe.
Trump administration yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, but for sexually trafficking an underage
girl that's not ideal.
Also, the drug fueled partiesand the drug fueled sex parties,
reminiscent of P Diddy,probably not the ideal candidate
.
Congressional freak-offs andthere was a bunch of infighting
in the Republican Party betweenMatt Gaetz and other slightly
(25:15):
less absurdly conservativemembers of Congress.
That resulted in conservativemembers of Congress.
That resulted in basically, youcan call this retaliation from
the right against Matt Gaetz,where they began ethics
investigation into that behavior.
The DOJ had him underinvestigation for and, well,
that resulted in the conclusionof that investigation.
(25:38):
But the House is now currentlysitting on that ethics report,
refusing to release it to thepublic, even though that was
done before the election.
They wouldn't do it then, andnow that Trump has won the
election, now it seems as thoughthat they've decided to turn
tail and not release that reportbecause it would be
extraordinarily damaging andTrump's already nominated this
(25:58):
guy to the position.
But here we have Speaker MikeJohnson commenting on his
thoughts about that.
(26:33):
So, upon receiving thenomination for Trump via Twitter
or whatever, true social,untrue social Matt Gaetz
resigned from the House, and Iguess that's giving Republicans
some cover as to feel that theydon't need to release that
congressional ethics report.
Feel that they don't need torelease that congressional
ethics report?
Uh, but again, if they had, ifthey do so, it wouldn't be the
first time that a member ofcongress has resigned before an
ethics report comes out, sodon't let them use that as a
fucking excuse.
They just don't want toembarrass trump and they don't
(26:55):
want to seem as though they'reenemies of the incoming trump
administration.
Because again um, you know wetalk about this numerous times
here the first thing hitler didwhen the nazis came to power is
he cleared out the nazi partyyeah, he went after his own
people okay, maybe they need tolook into some fucking history,
because trump's well, I'm notgonna say his memory is like an
(27:16):
elephant, but his vengeance isin that, his revenge.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And he's got a kill list, not literally, but
figuratively, career-wise.
On those I've got a disclaimerhere.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But yeah, he's like.
He's definitely an elephant interms of remembering everyone
who's wronged him yeah, eventhose kids in his ass right now.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
He's, he's gonna, he's enjoying it because he
likes having his ass kids.
However, he has not forgivenyou folks.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And I'm sure he's got a list of enemies inside the
party and out that he's going totake his vengeance on.
And I would suggest, if you'rea Republican somehow listening
to this podcast, if you havedirt on Donald Trump, you might
want to release that now beforehe can take vengeance upon you.
So, despite the fact that MattGaetz is a terrible potential
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nominee to run the Department ofJustice and all these other
insane people that Trump isbringing into his administration
, you got to wonder what are thelikelihood, what is the
likelihood of success in gettingthese people confirmed?
Well, mike Johnson has somethoughts on that as well.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Listen, I believe in the principle of a new president
being able to choose his team,and that used to not be a
controversial notion.
We're in a time of very dividedgovernment and a very partisan
atmosphere in Washington.
I wish it were not.
I wish the Senate would simplydo its job of advice and consent
and allow the president to putthe persons in his cabinet of
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his choosing.
But if this thing bogs down, itwould be a great detriment to
the country, to the Americanpeople.
Remember, they just delivered amandate to the president, an
overwhelming popular votevictory and, course, electoral
college victory, and they havesent the message that America
first, policies are, should bethe rule of the day.
So the persons that thepresident is choosing will help
(29:10):
with that agenda.
They will take their leadershipin these agencies and they will
reform them as the peopleexpect and demand.
So we'll evaluate all that atthe appropriate time and we'll
make the appropriate decision.
There may be a function forthat and we'll have to see how
it plays out.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
OK, there goes that mandate word again.
Yeah, that seems to be the worddu jour that they're all going
to use, given the falseimpression that it was somehow
an indictment on the Democratsthat no one of the smallest
popular vote margins in history,I think.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Except for Al Gore, yeah it was like one of the two,
two smallest, but yeah, thatfunction that Mike Johnson is
talking about there that mightbe an opportunity to have
Trump's cabinet nomineesconfirmed is called a recess
appointment, and that is whenCongress recesses for any amount
of time, generally speaking inthis, in this regard, a period
(30:06):
longer than 10 days, trump canjust have all of his nominees
confirmed as acting heads oftheir individual departments for
a period of two years or so,which means they would bypass
the Senate confirmation process,hearings and all that Well
that's the.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
That's the curious part, because they have a pretty
significant majority in theincoming new session.
So why would you want to recess?
You got your Senate.
Unless you are concerned, thenwhy do you not want to do
background checks?
So this little pomp andcircumstance and fluff shit that
they do.
(30:46):
And I swear to god, mikejohnson is so smug I I want to
his face.
Uh, I'm not gonna say violentthings, but he, he has a very
punchable face, I know exactlywhat you're saying.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But yeah, no, clearly there would be no need for
recess appointments.
Generally speaking, you wouldthink if these nominees were
worthy of doing the job and thefact that Republicans have,
we'll have a four seat majorityin the Senate and probably a
five six seat majority in theHouse, although votes are still
being counted at this point, sothat might be up for grabs A few
(31:27):
of those seats.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, derek Tran.
Just he's up by like 36 votesor something like that over
Michelle Steele and they'restill counting, so I'm hopefully
Even if you live in a bluestate.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
every vote matters.
Just keep that in mind for yourcongressional representation.
But yeah, you would think evenwith a, you know, a reasonable
majority in both houses, theywould be able to get these
appointments confirmed of viewthat they don't have the votes
(32:02):
in the Senate, which means thatTrump is looking for any various
ways that he could find toskirt the Constitution to get
the worst people into hisadministration running it into
the ground.
Of course they constantly playthese games.
It never stops, and again withjust more Trump insanity.
What you have coming for you ina second Trump administration,
(32:24):
it's not ideal.
But here's Ron Goldman onTrump's proposal of him serving
for not just two terms but athird term.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Isn't that already clear?
Don't we already know that?
Like?
Don't we already know that?
Yes, it is very clear, which iswhy it should be very easy for
every single Republican memberof Congress to vote in favor of
this resolution.
But Donald Trump as you pointout, chris has joked, quote
unquote, about many differentthings, including, as I remember
, in 2018, he joked aboutpardoning himself.
(32:58):
Then that became completelynormalized and everyone just
expected him to pardon himselfif he won.
This time, the same thing hasbeen happening.
He has mentioned this over andover and over again for years
now, and his jokes are not jokes.
Nobody takes them as jokes.
They are trial balloons.
They are very intentionallydesigned to soften the response
(33:24):
and then to normalize hisunconstitutional and
anti-democratic goals.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah.
So Trump has been floating theidea of running for a third term
on the idea the premise thatbecause he did not serve two
consecutive terms and that the22nd amendment, which states
that no president should holdoffice for more than two terms,
only counts for consecutiveterms, Now again, obviously
that's ridiculous and absurd onits face.
(33:50):
But on the flip side of that wehave a Supreme court.
And look again, this is likeyou got to take a lot of things
for granted here.
The trouble, even be alive infour years like that.
I wouldn't necessarily bet mymoney on that.
But we do have a Supreme Courtwho is, at this point, largely
or at least a majority of themserve as a rubber stamp for
(34:11):
Trump and they can interpret theConstitution any way that they
see fit and they do and they do.
And they have in a way that theycould look at the 22nd
Amendment and come to theconclusion that because it just
says two terms, that it doesn'tmean Trump served two terms and
(34:32):
can no longer serve.
They'll take his position orcould take his position.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Two points.
It's Dan Goldman, not RonGoldman.
Did I say Ron Goldman?
I don't know why I said thatdan goldman.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know what I mean, bro, my bad dog, we he's still
good he's not he.
No, yes, ron goldman was theguy look man, I'm stuck in the
90s, I've been.
I'm stuck in the 90s, all right, and number.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And number two, if they did rule that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Oh yeah, obama, Trump in 2020.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, obama putting on that jersey, like LeBron in
the mean.
Yeah, he's like coming out ofretirement yo.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And then you're doing all the ducks and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I mean he's always playing, you know.
He seems like he wants to runagainst Obama anyway.
So this I mean, just give theboy what he wants.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, let him do it.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Give him what he wants.
Yeah, let him do it, give himwhat he wants.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But no.
So look, it's absurd that we'reeven having this discussion
like there are probably moreimportant things going on in the
world as we speak, but thisjust highlights one of the
issues is it's just been aconstant problem over the course
of like a decade.
Now.
Trump says all this absurd shitunder the guise of it being a
(35:44):
joke, when actually he doesn'ttell jokes, none of this is a
joke.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
He is planting seeds, just like he said every single
election he's ever run in If Idon't win, it's rigged.
If I don't win.
He plants seeds, then sees howthings go, how they play out
2020, he got smashed, so then hewas able to run with it Every
other time.
You know it ended up going hisway and then the claims just
(36:13):
disappeared.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I mean, he claimed that the 2016 election
was rigged before the votes werecast, but when he won and he
was like well, actually, so what?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
happened to all those rigged votes like?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
well, he did say that on anything he did say that the
2020 election was riggedbecause if it hadn't been, he
would have won the popular votetoo you just like oh my god,
this guy just disappeared andthen nobody ever brings it up
again.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
No, like nobody ever challenges him or brings it up
again.
And I just I hate to break itto msnbc, cnn, all their
journalists and anchors you'rebeing pogromed anyway.
So go balls to the fucking walland do something, say something
to save democracy, becauseyou're getting no grace once
(37:05):
he's sworn in.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
No, they're not going to do that again and,
unfortunately for them, theyspent the past two years
believing that if Trump happenedto win the election in twenty
two and four, that it would be aboon for their ratings.
But, as they're finding outafter the election, uh,
viewership for both cnn andmsnbc is in the dumpster, it is
(37:29):
in the toilet.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
It is, uh, you know, just record lows because they
shit on their base of viewershipand we tried to tell them come
on cnn, what are you doing?
Come on msnbc, what are youdoing?
Come them, come on CNN, whatare you doing?
Come on MSNBC, what are youdoing?
Come on yo, Come on yo, Come onyo.
But they still wanted to playfootsie with fascism, and now
(37:51):
they laying off folks.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I don't know whoever came over the term same
washing, but it was anincredibly accurate depiction of
what it is they do incrediblyaccurate depiction.
Yeah, it is, they do.
I've been calling it softselling for for years now, not,
not.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I mean sane washing is a thing.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It is appropriate, because we use whitewashing when
it comes to history so sanewashing in today's time is
completely accurate, for sure,but what they've been doing is
pitching trump and all of hisabsurdity, even though they
cover it.
They cover it as though it'slike an, a reason, it's a
reasonable alternative to whatthe other side of the aisle is
offering, in an attempt to makeit seem like, you know,
(38:33):
reasonable.
People have a choice betweenthese two candidates.
When the truth is reasonable,people only have one choice and
anyone choosing the alternativeand Trump is choosing utter
insanity and it's coming back tohaunt them at this point
because people who typically Isthis a comment about uncommitted
Not only them, but you know,look, and I'm not saying that
(38:59):
just because you watch the news,you're informed, and because
you don't watch the news, you'renot informed.
That's not what I'm saying.
Set of critical thinkingrequired to view that
information and and know whenthey're being peddled some
(39:23):
bullshit and exactly thosenetworks have decided they're no
longer going to continue to bepeddled this bullshit.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Well, exactly we're that cognizant on the left to be
like, no, you're not going togaslight us over here, you're
not going to do this shit.
But fox viewers, oam viewers onthe on of right wing media,
they don't have that sameability because literally
everything they say can befact-checked, debunked.
(39:51):
And me personally I would beoffended like bitch.
Did you really just play in myface like that?
Because right here I'm like youknow what I'm saying but.
But I think also a lot thatgoes into that is they don't
want to know.
Yeah that's I think a lot of itis and and you know it's willful
(40:14):
, because they don't want to betaken out of their echo chamber
because then they're going tohave to reconcile some shit
within themselves, their ownintellect, intelligence, their
own willing to buy into.
So they put so much in.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
At this point they're like yeah, people's identity on
the right is probably committedto the things that they
identify with on the right, andso any sources of outside
information they would justrefuse to accept, especially if
it's coming from their whiteright wing.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I do that every time if it comes from their right
wing outlets.
Well, I mean, both terms areappropriate.
No, that's probably why I do itRight wing.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
No, yeah, they refuse to accept that information, but
especially from their rightwing outlets, because that is
where they go to to have theiridentities confirmed.
And that's why you saw thatshift after the 2020 election,
where a lot of Fox News viewerswere moving to OAN and Newsmax.
Fox News decided hey, you know,we made a mistake in trying to
(41:22):
make some actual, accurateinformation in with the
propaganda.
And then they just they, theywent full steam.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
They just went all in .
They're like fuck it Murdoch'srich, we got another billion,
whatever?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, they didn't want to lose their viewers, so
they doubled down.
Now again, fox News lost threequarters of a billion dollars
for lying about the outcome ofthe 2020 election.
Uh, no one seems to ever bringthat up.
And again we covered those, um,some of the information in
those depositions where foxknows that they're just outright
lying to their viewers and theythink they're fucking morons.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
It's crazy and that and that and the the craziest
part is that even that wasn't awake up call.
So when Fox was trying to liketoe the line a little bit after
making that, you know, gettingrid of Tucker Carlson, whatever
and after that settlement, theirviewers were like what's that
(42:19):
drake mean?
No, I don't want to like, youknow what I'm saying.
Instead of going like youmotherfuckers got my dad killed.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
You got my uncle killed, like my wife is dead
because of your lies and webelieved you, etc yeah,
interaction, where you know alot of people they know or
follow on social media ended upin prison because of it and
people just it just erased thefact that Fox is propaganda from
their minds and just continueto swallow it down because it
(42:51):
reaffirms their, their alreadypreconceived notions and long
held beliefs.
It's insane.
We live in the most insanetimes.
I mean, you know, I know me andyou.
There's nothing we cannecessarily do about that.
We can only talk to the peoplewho are actually open to real,
factual information or seeminglyrealistic opinions.
We try and do our best to staywithin the realm of reason over
(43:14):
here.
That's not a Fox News specialty, but we have a clip of Adam
Schiff on Trump's comments abouthim being the enemy within and
the possibility of usingmilitary action against Schiff
and people like him in Congress.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary
, by national guard or, ifreally necessary, by the
military, because they can't letthat happen.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Do you think that he was talking about using the
military against you and howconcerned are you about
retribution?
Clearly that's what he wastalking about.
Would he go to that link withthe military, essentially
fulfill some kind of aunconstitutional order?
I would hope the military wouldhave more independence than
that.
Historically, the military hasstood up to civilian authority
(44:07):
where civilian authority hassuggested, as in his first
administration, unconstitutionalacts.
Look, I'm not going to beintimidated by anything he says,
by anything he does.
If I was, I wouldn't be on yourshow.
I'm going to do myresponsibility in the Senate.
Californians are expecting me,first and foremost, to try to
work and get things done.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
work across the aisle where the president wants Now.
So I know a lot of people arethinking hey, the military would
never go along with someunconstitutional or illegal
order from Trump.
They would never engage in suchbehavior.
And I've got bad news for you.
It doesn't require the entiretyof the military apparatus to do
(44:49):
something like I don't know,arrest Adam Schiff or Democratic
members of Congress.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
It only takes I already know that the military
is infiltrated.
I mean there have been reportsby the FBI with white
supremacists, etc.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
You know all that good stuff.
Yeah, just you know, right wingmagnet jobs.
The military is filled withthem.
You don't need the entirety ofthe military apparatus to carry
out some Trump's illegal orders.
You only need, you know, ahandful of officers and some
willing grunts to do the job.
And again, I'm sure theNational Guard at this point is
(45:26):
probably filled to the brim withright wing Trump supporters who
would love to have themselvesfederalized in service of Trump
to carry out some of hishorrific plans and agenda in
2025.
Some of his horrific plans andagenda in 2025.
So you know anyone who's and Idon't want to be like a Demi
Downer, doomer, gloomer typedude, but like, just like you
(45:47):
have to be prepared for the factthat Trump is going to order
the people in his employ to doterrible things and that there
are enough people out therewilling to engage in those
actions to engage in that andcarry that shit out.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
And, and you know, my concern is, you know, suicides
are up, especially in the navy.
So in the navy, cruel assaultsare up in the military, and you
know the radicalization.
They're always playing fox, fox, fox, fox, fox.
Only on the bases, which shouldhave been stopped.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
But that's the first thing Biden should have done
when he got in the office is cutFox News off of these
government billings.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Persons of color in the military, women in the
military they're going to be anincredible danger in a Trump
presidency.
They are going to be inincredible danger.
Any LGBTQ person in themilitary and this whole thing
there, when they go on about, oh, our woke military.
It's demoralizing.
No, what's demoralizing is whenyou can keep saying that our
(46:56):
military is shit, our militaryis this, our military is that.
You know, these are brothersand sisters in green, blue,
white, the you know, in uniform,and there needs to be a trust
and there needs to be and youneed to.
You've got a lot of people upfor the military and that gives
(47:21):
you the opportunity to make aliving, take care of your family
, come back, get money, go tocollege, buy a home, but you
ain't never seen a black person,not on cops.
You know what I'm saying.
When you get there and then youare surrounded by this diverse,
but you need to learn that youcan't just go around calling
(47:42):
somebody boy that you can't go.
You know because that, butthat's how they grew up, that's
all they've known.
You know what I mean.
So you have these.
Diversity, equity, inclusion islike okay, we all need to rely
on each other here, because weare all here.
You need to.
I need to know that you have myback.
I need to know that you have myback.
You need to know that I haveyour back.
(48:03):
There needs to be a trust.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Well, the trust is about to go down buddy.
Um, yeah, you know, one thing Ireally worry about, just given
the state of affairs, when, soyou know, our military is an
all-volunteer force, we don'thave conscripts, uh.
So when you have a situationlike this, where you've got an
extraordinarily divisive figurethat's about to become
commander-in-chief, and racismrunning rampant, sexual assault,
(48:31):
hate crimes, all of that stuff,you have the potential for a
lot of minorities and people inthe LGBT community, and women as
well, who just quit themilitary.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, they just leave , they don't reenlist.
Yeah, they leave the force andthese are crucial people in so
many areas of our forces andthen their idea of like we're
going to get out the woke.
What they mean is like we'regoing to.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
We're going to you know, women, black, brown people
, every person of color andevery female, every lgbtq person
.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah, because, like we can't hide, you know, if
you're a white person, you don'ttalk about politics, nobody
knows where you lean, butaccording to them, my skin color
tells them.
I'm woke, yeah, unless I'm justoutwardly trumping.
You know, know, tim Scott andDonald Byron, donaldson.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
But I did see the like my my the first black
person with the MAGA hat on inthe wild the other day, so I was
like, oh it's, it's tough outhere, but no.
So yeah, and Trump also hasthis, you know, plans to fire
all of the generals whotheoretically draft executive
order.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
fire all of the generals who theoretically draft
executive order.
I was reading about that.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
So any generals out here who don't sign the loyalty
oath to Trump specifically, Iimagine they're gone, as well as
anyone else that he perceivesto be part of the quote, unquote
, woke agenda.
So if the leadership is gone,there would be a bulwark to
anything illegal that Trumpwants to use the military for,
along with, you know, massresignations or just people
refusing to reenlist.
(50:05):
You know, look, we'll have.
We'll have ceded our militaryto the fascists and Trump will
use them in whatever way he seesfit.
And again with their plans formass deportations at the
beginning of 2025, just itspells disaster.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Just call it what it is mass incarcerations.
They're going to Jaeger.
That's it.
It's not.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Okay, you're right, you know what?
That's fair.
We should just drop the termmass deportations, because those
aren't a thing, largely because, again, to deport people there
needs to be a destinationavailable for them to be
deported to, and you cannotforce countries to take your
deportees.
It's just, that's not a thing.
I mean, maybe there will besome countries willing to kind
(50:52):
of butter up Trump by acceptingthat, but I'm assuming at this
point it's not likely or evenfeasible.
Then, even if you wanted toround up millions of people to
send them somewhere, you have toround them up and put them
somewhere first, because there'sno
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