November 4, 2024 • 47 mins
What if the rhetoric at political rallies could spark more than just controversy? In our latest episode, we explore the alarming landscape of recent Trump rallies, where misogynistic comments about Kamala Harris receive troubling approval and the specter of political violence looms large. We question the normalization of such rhetoric by drawing parallels with historical figures and dive into the disturbing undercurrents that threaten to redefine political discourse in America. Prepare to be both intrigued and concerned as we unpack the potential implications for the future of the Republican Party, which is deeply entwined with Donald Trump and faces uncertain challenges ahead.
Join us as we navigate the intricate dynamics of a party under strain, plagued by legal battles and financial burdens, all while considering the emotional stakes for Trump supporters who see their identity as tied to his victories. We delve into the potential aftermath of a Trump loss, exploring whether the party will pivot or collapse, much like post-Bush years. The conversation further examines Project 2025, a plan to overhaul the federal government with far-reaching consequences. In this politically charged atmosphere, we also take a lighter look at the cultural intersections of sports and politics, revealing how athletes and franchise owners grapple with political affiliations and public opinion.
The road to Election Day holds many twists, and our discussion doesn't shy away from exploring them. We analyze polling trends and the significant implications of Kamala Harris's potential electoral success against Trump, underscoring the importance of voter turnout, especially in key swing states. The episode wraps up with a heartfelt call to action, urging listeners to seize the moment and make history by voting in a transformative election. Whether you're navigating personal challenges in a politically tumultuous climate or eager to witness a historic presidential race, this episode offers a compelling mix of analysis, reflection, and encouragement.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
so trump held a rally in which he was making comments
about kamala harris havingnever worked at mcdonald's, and
one of the attendees at therally just engaged in some utter
misogyny and and trump approvedof it.
In case you were wondering thequality of the Republican
candidate for president here itis, as we were saying earlier in
(00:28):
the dumpster total garbage.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
They got us into Ukraine.
We should have never gone intoUkraine.
If I was president, you wouldhave never gone into Ukraine.
This is not a charity event.
This is an election for thebiggest and toughest job in
human history.
This is not a charity event.
This is an election for thebiggest and toughest job in
human history.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is Wait, was that the right video?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm not sure.
I can't remember when.
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, that's OK, I'll edit that out.
So Trump, at a rally, made acomment about Kamala Harris
never having worked atMcDonald's.
An individual from the crowdyelled out that she in fact
worked on a corner.
That was an allusion to theidea that they professed that
Kamala Harris was a prostituteand slapped her way to the top,
(01:18):
and Trump said that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
He's so gross, I don't.
And at a previous rally, like aday or so ago, when he was
calling her dumb and then a malein the audience yelled out
she's an idiot, he goes.
I like this guy.
You know he puts on these.
Aha, like.
I like this guy with his fakevoices and shit.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, and this is again.
This is coming from the guy whobanged his wife on Jeffrey
Epstein's plane.
I mean just Jesus Christ withthis shit.
And again, like again.
This goes back to the commentsBiden made, where he was just
talking about the disparagingcomments by Kill Tony in regards
to Puerto Ricican, saying thosecomments were garbage, but they
(02:07):
blew that out of proportion.
But when things like thishappen at a trump rally, it's
just absolute crickets.
No one cares no he called her asimpleton, yeah, I was like, and
she's like, she's one of themost accomplished women in the
country.
Uh, just, you know, anaccredited lawyer, prosecutor,
(02:29):
attorney general, senator.
She's run the gamut and she'sgot multiple degrees.
I mean, the womanintellectually is unrivaled and
this is.
And they just they, they makecomments about her.
It's so gross, it's disgustingand it is just and it's only
because she's a woman.
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I mean, I guess in terms oftrump calling people stupid,
like there there are no genderboundaries with that he's not
afraid to call anyone rememberhe did say that he's a smart guy
because of his genetics andthen he said she's dumb which is
also weird because you know hisgenetics are questionable.
(03:11):
If you look at his parents andyou look at his kids, you're not
going to be like, oh, that'sthe master race there.
But again, that's akin tohitler being like, yes, the
master race has blonde hair andblue eyes.
Hitler's hair was brown.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I guess that's why he offed himself in the end Is
that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, I don't think that's I'm kidding.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
It's a dark joke.
It's a dark time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But again, in our comparisons of Trump and Hitler,
the one good thing Hitler didagain was to kill Hitler.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So in that that regard, we can only hope, uh,
that if trump does, I was justplaying a best of hitler track
by the time he shot himself well, if trump does take up the
mantle of bringing upon thefourth right, may he end up in
the same position as Hitler did.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh my God man.
So, in terms of the possibilityof more political violence
related to the Trump campaign ina presidential election much
like in 2020, when Trump lostand proceeded to engage in a
violent coup with the Capitol,on January 6th of 2021, alex
Jones says that, after listeningto Trump's rally in
(04:30):
Pennsylvania, that we should allprepare for civil war.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You know they're not going to just give up easily
after the impeachment and the.
Russian collusion crap and allthe fake indictments and the
lawfare.
This is common sense crap andall the fake indictments and the
lawfare this is common sense.
So I'm saying be ready for thecivil war conditions and the not
certifying it and Carvillesaying we need an armed uprising
(04:57):
against Trump and Trumpsupporters.
I mean these people are goingfor broke and mainline
Republican supporters aren'treally ready for this.
Trump is starting to get it andwas talking about all this just
minutes ago.
Why?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
does he look like why ?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
is he so red?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Sorry, Ron Perlman.
Why does he look like Hellboy?
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I have absolutely no idea why he looked like a beet,
and I usually say thathyperbolicallyically, but his
skin is extremely red so ifyou've ever seen south park, in
the episodes where the devil isa character on the show, he, he
looks like the devil from southpark, just like this, you know,
gigantic, fat, hulking idiot.
(05:40):
Uh, in all red minus the hornshe doesn't have horns that we're
aware of that we can see Idon't understand.
I I have no answers.
I don't know why he looked likethat.
It's the same questions I haveabout, like why trump is dressed
up like robert downey jr fromtropic thunder with all the
(06:02):
black face on, like I don't knowwhat's going on with these guys
, but it's are they letting himput his own makeup on or is his
makeup artist just a troll likethe cameraman?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I don't I.
I need.
I have so many questions, Ineed.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I I have numerous questions.
I don't.
I have far fewer answers.
I don't have any answerswhatsoever, to be frank.
But yeah, just like again theidea that you know, depending on
what happens on Election Day orElection Week, or whatever you
want to call it, betweenElection Day and the results
being decided that possiblydevolving into violence, that is
(06:40):
, generally speaking, an ideathat comes from the right and,
given that we've already hadpolitical violence the last time
trump lost an election, uh, youknow, I would I would probably
say in all honesty, maybe youshould take alex jones's advice
and be prepared for a possiblecivil war, depending on the
(07:00):
results of the election, becausethey're not going to take this
one lying down right.
This is basically all or nothingfor the republican party.
If they win, of course, americais doomed, but if they lose,
the republican party is doomed.
They're going to have toreassess it because they put all
their chips in the in the trumpbag.
Right they're, they're on likeif this is the roulette table,
(07:24):
they've got all their money onred and if they lose this, they
lose everything.
They could potentially end uplosing their majority on the
Supreme Court, which, would youknow, set back their Project
2025 slash Heritage Foundation.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
MAGA is going to lose their fucking mind because,
they are all in.
They've lost friends.
They've lost all in.
They've lost friends, they'velost family, they've lost jobs.
Their entire world has centeredaround this man and the fact
that they were quote unquote onthe winning side, the quote
unquote winners.
He has given them purpose,because these people, they have
(08:04):
been miserable for so long butthey haven't connected that they
were miserable and their liveswere not where they wanted them
to be because they insisted onvoting for the people that kept
it that way, which isrepublicans, and so the only
(08:26):
thing they had was owning thelibs.
So they just said I know I'mstarving, but I got to own a lib
today.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know it's, it's, it's yeah, and trump was the
voice for their dis, theirdispleasure with their
circumstances, and the problemfor the republican party is like
all.
So their entire apparatus isnow wrapped up in trump.
You got laura running the, thernc, the trump campaign, soaking
up all the dollars, spending iton trump's legal fee.
So, like the republican partyis now broke, if you've noticed,
(09:00):
yeah, there are political adsrunning rampant all across the
Internet and even on TV, but instates where they really need to
win, they're not able to spendany money to run nearly as many
ads as the Biden campaign.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Well, that's where the dark money comes in.
They don't have enough of thatLike, like Tim Shee the Montana
race and McCormick that race.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They super PACs are pouring millions of dollars into
those campaigns.
But again, so, if you thinkabout, like, how tv ads function
, like the candidates campaignsget a huge discount and the
super packs have to pay fullprice, and for ads around
election season and football and, like you know, season
(09:44):
premieres, it, like those adspots are extraordinarily
expensive.
So, dollar-for-dollar, they'respending far more than the
Democrats and the Harriscampaign.
It's, it's a it's it's, it's afailure.
It's a failure to properlyappropriate their dollars in the
right way.
But again, if Trump loses,they're gonna have to untangle
(10:06):
all of this from trump and he'sprobably going to put up a fight
to make sure that that doesn'thappen, because politics is the
only successful business trump'sever had.
But again, if they lose, thiswill be so.
This will be, you know, the2024 presidential that they lost
.
The 2022 midterms, where theyunderperformed and didn't
recapture the senate.
The 2020 election that theylost.
The 2022 midterms where theyunderperformed and didn't
recapture the senate.
The 2020 election, where theylost everything house, senate,
(10:31):
presidency included.
And the 2018 midterms, wherethey lost the house and, and you
know, got drilled in such a waythat it set up democrats to
take the senate in 2020.
That's's, you know, six yearsof elections, the Republicans
have lost betting on Trump.
No political party has everreally come back from something
like that this is their lastchance and they're going all in.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's why they went ahead and exposed Project 2025.
They wanted to get theevangelicals ginned up Like come
on, please come out, vote forhim.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This is what we got for you.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
This is going to be our gift to you yeah and
speaking of project 2025.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So, like I know, people are like oh, project 2025
, trump wins, they're going toimplement.
They've already implemented thefirst step of project 2025 and
that was getting heritagefoundation approved.
Supreme court justices on thesupreme court to get a, you know
, conservative majority and theypull that off and you've seen
(11:30):
what's happened since then.
We lost roe v wade.
I mean, they've basicallygranted you know, the next
president immunity from criminalactions and who knows?
chevron, chevron decisionchevron deference is gone, Like
the ability for the federalgovernment to basically regulate
the country.
That's been thrown out.
Imagine what kind of insaneshit they would enable under a
(11:52):
second Trump administration.
And that was step one.
And if Trump gets in they'lljust finish the job.
But we're already there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Mike Johnson said the first hundred days.
They're working fast.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's going to be full speed, ahead, ahead yeah, they
got a plan to gut the federal.
Look the federal governmentthey're going to let trump fire
every single federal employee,or at least in the executive
branch, and they're going toreplace them with brown shirts
and the supreme court is goingto rubber stamp it, because they
want executives to haveunlimited power anytime a
(12:23):
republican is in office.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
And again back because they also don't see
what's coming for them.
The court also goes eventuallywell, again.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, right, that's the thing.
So anything that could be apotential help to trump is also
a potential hindrance, and I'massuming he's going to eliminate
his competition, and that wouldinclude the legislative branch
and the judicial branch, andthat's what that's again, that's
what the nazis did when theytook power.
Once they had control of theirown party, they, they eradicated
(12:51):
all the dissidents and theytook over the media.
The courts were next and fromthere, uh, you know, democracy
in germany fell until the end ofworld war ii, and then some I
mean hell, the wall didn't comedown until the reagan
administration.
Um, so, yeah, you know, justexpect.
Expect the worst if trump wins,but also expect the worst if
trump loses, because again, likethis, will be the death of the
(13:14):
republican party.
Now, theoretically, I think, ifit's, if it's a massive blowout
in favor of kamala harris, itmight give the party the room to
totally reject trump in such away that that the party's just
willing to pivot, the same waythey pivoted once george bush
(13:35):
left office in 2008.
Right, like it's, it's likethey erased the bush, the eight
years, the bush administrationfrom their memories.
It's just like they, they go,they, they skip over that and
just go back to Clinton in termsof the way they talk about the
White House, so that might givethem opportunity to kind of you
know rebrand back to the oldconservative party of Mitt
(13:58):
Romney or whatnot, which wouldjust allow them to continue to
do more of the same.
But if it's close enough andthere are enough people in the
Republican Party who feel like Iwant to continue to stick to
Trumpism, but there's also thatsplit that wants a new path
forward for the Republican Party, then we get our civil war just
inside of the Republican Party,where they spend the next
(14:20):
decade fighting it out anddestroying themselves, which,
honestly, would be the bestpossible.
I mean, you know, apart from thefact that they might like
attack the Capitol again, ifit's close enough, that would be
the best possible outcomeHaving the Republican party
spend the next decade fightingamongst each other, unable to
mount any sort of kind of youknow, national campaign or
(14:43):
platform or, you know, warbetween the Republicans and the
state parties, allowingDemocrats to make some gains in
the House, the Senate and statelegislatures and governorships
all across the country to starttrying to undo some of the
damage that you know the Trumpera republican party gets caused
.
I mean, uh, you know, I'mhoping that that's the case, but
(15:08):
more than anything, it's justimportant that we make sure
these idiots fucking lose.
Speaking of idiots here, trumpbasically offering, offering of
the idea that he himself isdisqualified to hold office.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But nothing is more dangerous than to give immense
power to a weak and not verysmart person.
Just not a smart person.
We need smart.
In fact, I mean, I call for it,but I would love to have it.
We should have cognitive testsfor anybody that runs for
president and vice president.
(15:47):
Oh, how about that guy shepicked for vice president?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What a loser.
Has he seen the events?
No, but yes, obviously it'sextraordinarily dangerous to
give nearly unlimited power to amoron.
And then, well, Trump is thestupid person he's referring to.
The inability to look in amirror there is quite shocking.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Maybe his teleprompter was actually a
mirror.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Can we talk for a second about the rebrand with
the Trump paraphernalia Right?
So he's been showing up herelately over the course of the
past month Proud Boys, well, yes.
So instead of donning theclassic red and white make
America great again gear, he'snow in the black and gold or the
white and gold, and you know,obviously, if you're familiar
(16:34):
with right wing politics, youknow that that is a dog whistle
to none other than the ProudBoys, one of the right wing
militias that were responsiblefor planning and executing the
attack on the Capitol on January6th, and, like you know, I
don't know what the implicationis there, but this is basically
the same thing as when he got onstage in 2020 and told the
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proud boys to stand back andstand by, like it's a clear
choice to get away from the redand white.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Isn't it?
Isn't it the Oath Keeperscolors too, I swear I thought in
their logo it was gold too,because I know they're all black
and.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, some combination of black, white,
gold and it might maybe gray,black and gold.
So it's just like if you've beenpaying attention to Trump
politics over the course of thepast eight years, apart from his
blue suit and red tie, the onlycolors you see him wear,
(17:34):
generally speaking, when it'sgot a political reference to it,
is the red and white that'sassociated with the red and
white mega hat.
Now, of course, again we hadthat instance where he was
selling the gold sneakers and Ikind of noticed that there's,
like usually the sneakers he'sselling on his website, or red
or red and white, or white andred, you know some combination.
(17:56):
The the switch to the gold waslike hey, man, this is where is
this going exactly.
He was like this isextraordinarily gaudy, but now
that you've seen the flip withthe hat, too, like this is where
is this going exactly.
He was like this isextraordinarily gaudy, but now
that you've seen the flip withthe hat, too, like this is
obviously okay, it's obviously adog whistle right wing militias
it might be a dog whistle toboth.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I'm looking at the oath keepers logo here and
there's one where it's the OathKeepers.
It's gold on a white background, like his tie and his shirt.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And then there's also in the Proud Boys is like
yellow and white.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's like gold and the black, so it might be to
both, and maybe this is hissignal saying I'm going to
pardon you and those are goingto be his soldiers.
That is a very real possibilityof like hey, hang in there,
guys, you're about to get out.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I guess, it's all possible it's going to be a
rough few months.
I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We're speculating, but I don't think it's reckless.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Carol, I didn't say it was reckless.
Even though I wasn't active onTwitter in 2016, 2017, I did
have a Twitter account.
I was following what was goingon.
I was extraordinarily involvedwith keeping up with, you know,
the trump administration andparticularly the the russia
(19:23):
investigation as led by specialcounsel robert muller.
I and I gotta tell you, after adecade of this, I'm utterly
exhausted physically, mentally,emotional, psychologically,
spiritually If you believe inspirituality, just in every
single way, I imagine, if you'relistening to this much like I
(19:43):
am, you are just sick of thisshit.
You want this dude to go awayforever, forever.
And I got to tell you, if youvote for Kamala Harris and she
wins, in all likelihood he mightbe going away a lot sooner than
you think, because so hissentencing coming up yes, his
sentencing for the 34 felony, 34count felony conviction in new
(20:03):
york is at the end of sept orend of november, the 26th I
believe.
And a lot of people are saying,you know, just generally
speaking, the discourse aroundthat is that no judge is going
to send Trump to prison.
And I got to tell you, if youlook at the pattern of
sentencing for you know crimesand convictions in this similar
(20:27):
vein in that particular district, motherfuckers go to jail for
at least a year or two.
So it's possible we could seetrump being locked up before
inauguration day if he losesthis election.
Now.
If he wins, there's absolutelyno way, no matter what that
judge decides to do in november,that the supreme court is going
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to let, uh, any kind ofjurisdiction, federal or state
imprison trump for any amount oftime.
They're going to quote unquotepostpone his sentencing until
after his term and I you know,given what he plans to do with
his term if he wins, he ain'tleaving the White House alive
for good or bad.
So you know, in case you weresingle-issue voter and your
(21:13):
single issue was seeing Trump goto jail and never having to see
his stupid face again, there'syour incentive.
Uh, we also had um a prettyfunny event.
You know, trump likes to bragabout how he has the largest
crowds and he has all thesupport.
You know the this attempt bytrump to treat everything as
(21:34):
though it's a reality show,because if you project strength
and popularity, then people aremore inclined to believe that
you have the possibility ofwinning, so therefore they're
more motivated to show up andhelp you out on election day.
But you know, as trump wasbragging about the crowd, he got
fact checked in real time atone of his campaign rallies by
the cameraman and it's fuckinghilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Nine years we've had the biggest rallies in history
of any country and every rally'sfull.
You don't have any seats thatare empty.
You don't have anything.
Yet I mean the one we had today.
You missed out Beauty.
We could have filled that placeup 20 times.
I mean that was beautiful.
And the virginia did you hearabout the virginia rally that
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was?
Glenn yonkin did a great job,the governor of virginia and
they had a crowd there.
That was incredible.
And then we came here and wedon't want to be late, but it's
very hard when you do thesethings.
It's, uh, very hard and youdon't mind a little bit.
We weren't very late, weweren't very late.
We weren't very late, just afew minutes.
Just a few minutes, dependingon your definition of when it's
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going to start.
You know, we've been doing.
I was talking to some of thepeople.
It's sort of you know, in a wayit's sad, in a way it's
beautiful.
I was talking to him and I saidyou know, this is coming to an
end.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
These was talking to him and I said you know this is
coming to an end, even if peopleare leaving in the middle of
him singing.
I think I'm going to tell myboss that.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
What is your definition of when I was
supposed to start, because I hadone definition.
Hey man, human resources had adifferent definition, I guess.
I don't know, maybe I'll.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, we'll see how that goes the fact that the
cameraman is doing a better jobof fact-checking trump in real
time than the media does, evenwith pre-recorded, you know,
video.
Kudos to that cameraman.
Get that dude a raise.
I, he, might, he, I guess.
He must be a.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
He's a democratic plant you know he's one of the
deep states.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's just so funny that even the
cameraman was like hey, wait asecond, this is some total
bullshit.
Carol, how many of his ralliesdo you watch?
Do you watch any of them at all, apart from?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
the clips?
No, yeah I understand.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So I don't typically watch all of them.
I try to watch at least everyother one for a good 30, 40
minutes just to see what's goingon.
And again, you know, for themost part it never really
changes.
Rally to rally.
He's talking shit aboutDemocrats.
He's talking about how dumb.
Kyle.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Harris is.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then he goes on his.
Either he does the sharkbattery thing, or he does the
Hannibal Lecter thing, and orboth.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Or the hydrogen cars are going to blow up and you'll
be unrecognizable.
But it's really funny becausethe only people he ever points
out for his death scenario arewomen in the audience you know I
ain't considered that, but youhave you, you that you make a
good point.
That is typically his, his bestin his bag, his repertoire, I
mean when he danica patrick whenshe is bragging, like oh, I'm
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42 years old, I never voted, buttoday I voted for trump.
And she goes to say rally thatnight and he's like points her
out and puts her in his hydrogenbomb to imagine it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Then you go and then you've been murdered, yeah,
exploding danica patrickfiguratively yeah he did that to
marjorie taylor, greenyesterday well, no, nothing, no
nothing is better than exploding, danica patrick, at your trump
rally like or marjorie taylorgreen I mean, that's well.
That's probably more anillusion to the pipe bomber on
(25:11):
january 6th, but no.
So, cara, do do you know who?
Danica Patrick is the NASCARdriver?
She's the first woman NASCARdriver, so she recently came out
and endorsed I thought it wasFormula 1.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
No, that was NASCAR.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So she recently came out and endorsed Trump, you know
saying she was, you know,voting for Trump, whatever.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's something, women or other,and this is.
This is funny, because if youunderstand the history of danica
, even being in nascar, likethey've basically been calling
her a dei hire for a decade.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, I was just gonna say that that's the gag
and it's like oh so you're?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
you're endorsing the, you know, the political party
that fucking hates your guts andwish you never existed and
didn't have a job in NASCAR.
That's.
That's quite ironic there.
But yeah, you know, look again.
As we said, if Trump supportersaren't garbage, they're stupid.
They're stupid uh.
(26:17):
So, apart from the cameramancompletely destroying trump's
claims of him having superpacked uh rallies, there was
also nick fuentes, noted uhneo-nazi, who's finally come to
the light and, amidst the trumpcampaign, is, in fact, a cult
garbage and at the trump ralliesthey're yelling trash for Trump
, trash for Trump.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
And I saw other people.
I saw white guys.
I saw Hispanic guys.
Hispanic guys inside trash cans, jumping out of them with Trump
signs, white guys with garbagebags that say trash for Trump
2024.
And that was kind of like to me.
That was the moment when Irealized Trumpism was a cult.
(27:01):
That was the moment when Irealized liberals are right.
That was the moment when Irealized it has gone too far.
It is Frankenstein's monster.
We have created a golem.
It is a problem.
You know, for years, liberalssaid it's a cult.
(27:21):
You, it is a problem.
You know.
For years, liberals said it's acult, you're an occult.
And I said where you're goingto jail?
You're going to jail.
It is a cult and we are in itand you are going to jail.
That's how I felt about it forthe past eight years.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So I hate the jail part who's going to jail?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
we are democrats yeah , he was saying liberals are
going to jail and now he'sconvinced that we were right and
they're called and they'reprobably going to prison.
Uh, but yeah, I hate to say it.
I think for the first time inmy life I agree with the
neo-nazi I'll cut it soon dinner.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
But yes, let's just just be clear that he has come
to his senses but surely stillstill hates Jews and blacks.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh yeah, look, I'm not approving of anything Nick
Fuentes stands for.
This is, like you know, brokenclock.
It's right Twice a day type ofthing Like it'll probably never
happen again.
In fact, like that he's rightonce at all is actually kind of
disheartening.
But again, you know, ifyou-wing supporter you know nick
fuentes, is even down withpresident trump, he's been one
(28:19):
of his most ardent supporters uh, you know I think he was more
supporter of the racism, but thegarbage bags were just too much
though yeah, the diapers didn'tdo it for him, but with him
dressing up his, his white trashon halloween, that was a bridge
too far for noted neo-Nazi DickFuentes.
It's incredible.
(28:40):
So, apart from you know, justthe utter stupidity of the right
and conservatives, and theTrumpers specifically, we did
have.
On a more positive note, we hadan interesting development over
the course of the week whennoted NBA superstar and current
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LA Laker, lebron James, made apolitical endorsement.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
It'll be a good day.
Everything's kind of silent andI wanted to make sure that it's
seen, heard, and heard withforce.
So, you know, I have a daughter, I have a wife, wife, a mother,
you know, and things of thatnature she believes in.
When it comes to women's rights, when it comes to the future of
, you know, my kids, and where Isee our country should be, I'm
(29:26):
damn sure I'm going the otherway.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
What is your experience in 2020 with the NFL?
Teach you about politics.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Show you about politics.
Show you about the impact youcan have on a very specific way.
Well, I mean, it all startedwith the shut up and dribble,
you know thing, obviously, umand uh, to be able to I'm in a
position where you can have someinfluence and, uh, you have a
lot of people who you know, whowant to be in a position to have
(30:08):
influence, to be able to speakoutside of their, their realm of
sports or, you know, music ormovies or whatever it is,
whatever the industry is, to beable to have a platform where I
was able to gather a lot of menand women to be able to speak
out.
From that moment and then, morethan a vote campaign, obviously
an initiative.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, so last week LeBron, on his Instagram and
Twitter and other social mediaplatforms, posted a pro Kamala
Harris ad where he basicallyendorsed Kamala Harris and he
was coming out to vote forKamala Harris and that his
supporters should as well.
And he was asked about it inthe post-game press conference
(30:56):
and refused to stand on hiscomments.
When LeBron was asked about itat that press availability event
after the game, he explainedhis political stance.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I think also the other guy probably just couldn't
explain his political stance.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Not that I'm going to .
He looks like a meathead incell.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah.
So, Nick Bosa, I think hispolitical stance is.
You probably should ask himwhere he was on January 6th.
Lebron, on the other hand,again, you know, and I've said,
you should also probably coveryour drink around him.
So I said this previously, youknow again, there's been, you
know, for years now, at leastsince the advent of, you know,
(31:35):
trump brand of politics, theright wing and pro-conservative
media.
Anytime an athlete or you knowa public figure comes out in
favor of support of you knowsome positive social stance or
political stance, they don'tagree with.
The obvious retort there, shutup and dribble.
But anytime some kind ofright-wing athlete does it, then
(31:57):
that's when they get celebrated.
Um, I'm a fan of you know,regardless of what political
stances you say take, I I wantevery popular athlete to take a
political stance, including theowners of these you know sports
franchises, because I want toknow where you stand.
Now they're typically you knowthe owners and a lot of
right-winning or right-leaningathletes and such aren't going
(32:21):
to do that because theyunderstand that it could
potentially affect their dollarsand not willing to stand on the
things they believe in.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't want to be walking around with a fucking
Bosa jersey, a fucking AaronRodgers jersey, a Brett Favre
jersey.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
If I'm a Negro and I find out, this is what you think
about me, fuck you man, andthat's your merch and that right
there is why they typicallyaren't going to come out and do
those things, but I wish theydid.
I would like to know.
I would like to know how thesepeople feel.
I would like to know like thelevel.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I think we should be.
It should be trump and lessproven kamala right at this
point, like if you're not goingto say anything, then I'm just
going to have to kind of assume.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know what, regardless of anybody's stance,
I can respect somebody thatactually has real conviction in
what they believe in and canexplain why I may not agree with
it, I might think it's gross,but at least I know that you've
put some actual thought into itand where the way you feel is
coming from your actual feelingon that issue, not just rant,
(33:28):
you know, behind on somebandwagon or doing it for clout
or just chasing Trumpism,because Trumpism is quote
unquote thing right now, likethe way Mark Cuban just
demolished Dana White on on thisinterview and he was like and
this is why you're wrong, andDana White, it was crickets he
(33:52):
had.
He couldn't say a motherfuckingthing, and that's usually how it
goes with Trump people.
But you know I mean of course Idon't have any respect at all
for David Duke and he is ahorrible human being.
However, he will to the grave,he's gonna take his beliefs with
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him.
He stands firm in what hebelieves in.
But these other people theycan't articulate themselves the
way that, like LeBron James can,and some of these other players
, the way Colin Kaepernick did,and they resent that.
You know they want to have thatand they're trying to ride on
(34:39):
the coattails of this MAGA thing, but they just end up owning
themselves and looking likefucking fools.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't think all of them can articulate their
positions.
I think their, I think theirpositions, generally speaking,
are so abhorrent that they don'twant to articulate them
publicly because and that letsyou know that they know they are
yeah and they know that,because if you really felt like
they were, it was really thatpopular you would.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
But you just can't, bosa just couldn't, got up there
and just said you know, I justreally hate n words, you know,
because that wouldn't have goneover so well, especially in the
locker room well, no one can saythat, you know, but yeah did
you know.
But that lets you know they'reon the wrong side of history and
social issues, justice etc.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
But, and it's particularly so, outside of
baseball and possibly soccer.
It's actually extraordinarilydifficult to be super pro,
publicly right wing, for anobvious reason those sports are
majority black in terms of theplayers, and you gotta go in
your locker room with yourteammates who you play for, play
with and for for years at atime and, like you know, you got
(35:54):
a bunch of black teammates.
You can't be out here with asuper racist candidate, you know
, wearing it on your sleeve oryour hat Nick Bosa's case
without some possible backlashinside the locker room with the
team, with the team organization, even though the owners at the
top are likely pro Trumptrump inmost cases, it's just, I mean
but the thing is you could rocka maga hat in 2016 and nobody
(36:21):
would really too much give youside eye, and maybe even up
until 2020, but between 2020 and2024, there are no quiet parts.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
So if you rock that hat now, it has a whole
different vibe to it.
With the shit that we've beenseeing for the past four years,
the things they've been saying,the, the, the people that have
been it's a it's the energy iscompletely different.
So while back then it was justlike okay, whatever do you, now
it's a it's.
The energy is completelydifferent.
So while back then it was justlike okay, whatever do you, now
(36:54):
it's like nah bro, it's justwearing it tells me what you
think, because it's a scar onthe letter.
Yeah, you endorse all the badthings that come along, all that
shit, yeah, yeah yeah, maybeyou had a little bit of degrees
of separation back then, Likewhen people said well, you know,
I just thought and I didn'ttake.
You can't say that now with astraight fucking face.
(37:16):
You can try, but you can't.
So it's like I see you.
I see you, bro, so hope youdon't need the DL.
You know somebody coming foryou Like they're going to do it
for you.
Like they gonna do him.
Like they gonna do him likeJamie Foxx on any given Sunday
after he made them comments andhis ass got ate the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That was crazy.
Just let him get smashed backthere in the backfield, smashed
all day up, alright.
So Saturday there was a pollreleased.
One of the most prominent, wellwell-known and well-respected
pollsters in Iowa, seltzer,released a poll showing that
(37:59):
Kamala Harris had a significantlead over Trump in Iowa.
I thought it was three, yeah,it might have been three points.
So you know that rocked thepolitical world because,
generally speaking, over thecourse of the past, you know a
two or three point margin, ifnot sometimes nailing it exactly
(38:32):
.
And this rocked the politicalworld, not because you know
people are believing that KamalaHarris is actually going to
outright win Iowa, but if Trumpis doing so poorly in Iowa that
this pollster might be correctlypredicting within a handful of
points that Kamala Harris hasput Iowa in play.
(38:54):
What it says about thepossibility of Kamala Harris
running away with the electionin other swing states, or you
know, just demographically, interms of the similarities
between Iowa and states like,say, minnesota or Ohio, if it's
that close, then Trump is cooked.
And again, so I think if, if shehad come out and said Trump
(39:19):
were winning Iowa by six points,no one would bat an eye and, in
fact, the right would be usingit as evidence that Trump is
about to win the 2020 electionin overwhelming fashion, or at
least in fashion similar to 2016.
But this suggests that, just interms of demographics, kamala
(39:40):
Harris is likely to overperformwith women voters, particularly
white, educated voters, bothmale and female, and just like
older voters in terms of, youknow, the 55 and up crowd and
that has implications for stateslike North Carolina, georgia,
(40:01):
maybe not so much Arizona, but anumber of states that Trump
needs to win Like.
If this pollster is correctabout what the data shows about
Kamala Harris's chances, it'snot going to look pretty for
Trump on election day Now.
I assume that Tuesday we'reprobably not going to know the
results of the election eitherway, even if Trump appears to
(40:23):
possibly be in a position to winthe election.
But if Kamala Harris doeshappen to win something like
North Carolina, we'll know thatpretty early to be able to look
at results in Florida and have apretty clear indication of even
you know the fact that shemight lose the state but still
overperform.
That has implications for otherstates, particularly the blue
(40:45):
wall or any population also thedown ballot candidates.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
It could, it could, you know, while she may just
barely miss it the trajectory,but we could pick up some much
needed seats.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Flip some seats yeah, it'll definitely have
implication for, like, whetheror not Democrats regain or
retain control of the House.
But it also has implicationsfor Georgia and Arizona, who
have Hispanic populations thatvote in pretty large numbers.
But you know, typically Florida, like the Cuban population, is
(41:26):
slightly different in terms ofHispanic voters.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I wouldn't even lump them together, but you know what
the Haitian, the puerto ricanpopulation might just cancel
them the fuck out this year.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So absolutely so, if we have signs in florida, that
show harris performing stronglywith certain demographic,
demographic groups has prettyclear implications about how
well she'll perform in, you know, pennsylvania, michigan,
wisconsin, north carolina,arizona, georgia all the states
that trump absolutely needs inorder to stay out of prison.
(41:57):
Uh, and then just again, likethe iowa, the iowa poll was a
bombshell, not just because shehas such a history of, you know,
being fairly accurate onpredictions, but like it is,
really it is.
It is causing a bunch of doomand panic in right-wing circles
(42:19):
because they know what itimplies and they know that if
that's the case, then it's allover before we and they don't
have time to do no votersuppression there?
no, absolutely not.
And so another thing thing istypically I would say, you know,
if you're looking at the pollstrying to figure out whether or
not they're predictive in termsof the 2024 election, they're
going to be less predictive thanever out these.
(42:53):
So you, it's difficult to cook apoll in terms of like, the, the
, the flat results from what youget from the participants.
But all of these foals getweighted by what they expect the
electorate to look like andthey've been under sampling
women.
They've been under sampling,you know, black women voters,
black male voters, they've beenunder sampling educated voters
to get to a number that makes itlook as though Trump's got,
like you know, a one point leadin states that Kamala Harris
(43:14):
will probably win by maybe ahalf a point or a point.
In states where you know Trumpmight win by a point.
These polls have been showingTrump up by three and four in
order to make the people who putout the polling averages just
say throw it into the average,and it makes it look as though
trump is performing strongerthan he actually is.
(43:34):
And this, this specificpollster, is well, in fact, just
, I don't know she's, I justdisregard polling averages is
what I'm saying, basically, just.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Just throw those out.
Tell people to vote.
Go vote, make everyone vote.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
So it's not just tell people to vote.
It's that you shouldn't usethese polling averages as some
kind of indicator of what youthink is going to happen on
Election Day, because thosepolls are cooked, and I know
this because if you look atswing state Senate races,
generally speaking, all of theDemocratic Senate races in these
states, the Democrat is runningaway with it, or at least in
close states, they're up by, youknow, plus three, plus four,
(44:19):
plus five over what the pollingaverages are saying in terms of
the presidential election.
And I, you know, would just takeit with a grain of salt, these
things that are suggesting Trumpis going to win outright.
It's obviously going to be aclose election.
It's likely going to besomething like 2016, where it
comes down to four or fivestates, 200,000 votes split
(44:41):
between them.
That'll be the difference inwho comes out victorious.
But I would say all the factorsat this point are pointing in
favor of Kamala Harris and if Iwere to pick a position that I
would want to be in, I wouldwant to be the Harris campaign.
Right now and I think, justmost importantly, as we head
(45:02):
into Election Day again, if youhaven't voted, vote already.
Do what you can to ensure thatyour friends and family members
turn out to vote.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Volunteer to drive people to the polls, if you can
do so, if you have theavailability the NAACP is giving
free rides on Lyft $20 up totwo rides for a total of $40 to
the polls.
So if you go to NAACP vote 24,twenty four Dot, hold on and
(45:38):
that and go there.
But yeah, so they're.
They're giving people a handwith that, which is which is
amazing, and I posted that on myFacebook because I have a
family in North Carolina.
You know friends and family inGeorgia, in Michigan, in Flint,
in Pennsylvania, new York, butjust trying to get everybody,
yeah, so I got to take food outof the oven.
(46:04):
Oh my God.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
My kids haven't eaten .
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Fuck them kids.
No, so just you know everyonewho's been listening to this
podcast over the course of thepast couple of years like we
appreciate all of your support,that you tune in every single
week, that you press play onthat play button, that you share
this with your friends and onsocial media to your followers
and whatnot, and like it's beenquite the journey for us, I
(46:30):
would imagine as just as much ofa journey as it's been for you
Got the possibility of beingpart of something historic.
You know I look back at 2008.
I live in Tennessee.
It's a red state.
You know at the time whatlittle my vote mattered.
It didn't really feel like Iwas largely responsible for the
(46:50):
advent of the Obamaadministration, as historic as
it was.
Again, looking at where I wasthen and the opportunity that I
have to play a role in thiselection, I feel like this is my
opportunity to personally putmy stamp on making sure we
arrive at a historic moment ofhaving the first black woman to
(47:15):
become president of the UnitedStates.
And you have that opportunityas well.
Even if you're a blue dot in ared state or your state votes
overwhelmingly democratic, notjust in a swing state like any
state.
You have the opportunity to saythat you made the decision that
we're going to end the insanitybrought upon America by
(47:38):
Republicans and Trump specificover the course of the past
decade.
You're going to put an end tothat and bring forth something
we've never had in this countrybefore, and this is your
opportunity to feel like youhave the chance to contribute to
American history and I suggestyou take it.
That concludes this episode ofPardon the Insurrection.
so trump held a rally in which he was making comments
about kamala harris havingnever worked at mcdonald's, and
one of the attendees at therally just engaged in some utter
misogyny and and trump approvedof it.
In case you were wondering thequality of the Republican
candidate for president here itis, as we were saying earlier in
(00:28):
the dumpster total garbage.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
They got us into Ukraine.
We should have never gone intoUkraine.
If I was president, you wouldhave never gone into Ukraine.
This is not a charity event.
This is an election for thebiggest and toughest job in
human history.
This is not a charity event.
This is an election for thebiggest and toughest job in
human history.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is Wait, was that the right video?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm not sure.
I can't remember when.
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, that's OK, I'll edit that out.
So Trump, at a rally, made acomment about Kamala Harris
never having worked atMcDonald's.
An individual from the crowdyelled out that she in fact
worked on a corner.
That was an allusion to theidea that they professed that
Kamala Harris was a prostituteand slapped her way to the top,
(01:18):
and Trump said that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
He's so gross, I don't.
And at a previous rally, like aday or so ago, when he was
calling her dumb and then a malein the audience yelled out
she's an idiot, he goes.
I like this guy.
You know he puts on these.
Aha, like.
I like this guy with his fakevoices and shit.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, and this is again.
This is coming from the guy whobanged his wife on Jeffrey
Epstein's plane.
I mean just Jesus Christ withthis shit.
And again, like again.
This goes back to the commentsBiden made, where he was just
talking about the disparagingcomments by Kill Tony in regards
to Puerto Ricican, saying thosecomments were garbage, but they
(02:07):
blew that out of proportion.
But when things like thishappen at a trump rally, it's
just absolute crickets.
No one cares no he called her asimpleton, yeah, I was like, and
she's like, she's one of themost accomplished women in the
country.
Uh, just, you know, anaccredited lawyer, prosecutor,
(02:29):
attorney general, senator.
She's run the gamut and she'sgot multiple degrees.
I mean, the womanintellectually is unrivaled and
this is.
And they just they, they makecomments about her.
It's so gross, it's disgustingand it is just and it's only
because she's a woman.
(02:49):
I mean, I guess in terms oftrump calling people stupid,
like there there are no genderboundaries with that he's not
afraid to call anyone rememberhe did say that he's a smart guy
because of his genetics andthen he said she's dumb which is
also weird because you know hisgenetics are questionable.
(03:11):
If you look at his parents andyou look at his kids, you're not
going to be like, oh, that'sthe master race there.
But again, that's akin tohitler being like, yes, the
master race has blonde hair andblue eyes.
Hitler's hair was brown.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I guess that's why he offed himself in the end Is
that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, I don't think that's I'm kidding.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
It's a dark joke.
It's a dark time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But again, in our comparisons of Trump and Hitler,
the one good thing Hitler didagain was to kill Hitler.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So in that that regard, we can only hope, uh,
that if trump does, I was justplaying a best of hitler track
by the time he shot himself well, if trump does take up the
mantle of bringing upon thefourth right, may he end up in
the same position as Hitler did.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh my God man.
So, in terms of the possibilityof more political violence
related to the Trump campaign ina presidential election much
like in 2020, when Trump lostand proceeded to engage in a
violent coup with the Capitol,on January 6th of 2021, alex
Jones says that, after listeningto Trump's rally in
(04:30):
Pennsylvania, that we should allprepare for civil war.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You know they're not going to just give up easily
after the impeachment and the.
Russian collusion crap and allthe fake indictments and the
lawfare.
This is common sense crap andall the fake indictments and the
lawfare this is common sense.
So I'm saying be ready for thecivil war conditions and the not
certifying it and Carvillesaying we need an armed uprising
(04:57):
against Trump and Trumpsupporters.
I mean these people are goingfor broke and mainline
Republican supporters aren'treally ready for this.
Trump is starting to get it andwas talking about all this just
minutes ago.
Why?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
does he look like why ?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
is he so red?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Sorry, Ron Perlman.
Why does he look like Hellboy?
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I have absolutely no idea why he looked like a beet,
and I usually say thathyperbolicallyically, but his
skin is extremely red so ifyou've ever seen south park, in
the episodes where the devil isa character on the show, he, he
looks like the devil from southpark, just like this, you know,
gigantic, fat, hulking idiot.
(05:40):
Uh, in all red minus the hornshe doesn't have horns that we're
aware of that we can see Idon't understand.
I I have no answers.
I don't know why he looked likethat.
It's the same questions I haveabout, like why trump is dressed
up like robert downey jr fromtropic thunder with all the
(06:02):
black face on, like I don't knowwhat's going on with these guys
, but it's are they letting himput his own makeup on or is his
makeup artist just a troll likethe cameraman?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I don't I.
I need.
I have so many questions, Ineed.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I I have numerous questions.
I don't.
I have far fewer answers.
I don't have any answerswhatsoever, to be frank.
But yeah, just like again theidea that you know, depending on
what happens on Election Day orElection Week, or whatever you
want to call it, betweenElection Day and the results
being decided that possiblydevolving into violence, that is
(06:40):
, generally speaking, an ideathat comes from the right and,
given that we've already hadpolitical violence the last time
trump lost an election, uh, youknow, I would I would probably
say in all honesty, maybe youshould take alex jones's advice
and be prepared for a possiblecivil war, depending on the
(07:00):
results of the election, becausethey're not going to take this
one lying down right.
This is basically all or nothingfor the republican party.
If they win, of course, americais doomed, but if they lose,
the republican party is doomed.
They're going to have toreassess it because they put all
their chips in the in the trumpbag.
Right they're, they're on likeif this is the roulette table,
(07:24):
they've got all their money onred and if they lose this, they
lose everything.
They could potentially end uplosing their majority on the
Supreme Court, which, would youknow, set back their Project
2025 slash Heritage Foundation.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
MAGA is going to lose their fucking mind because,
they are all in.
They've lost friends.
They've lost all in.
They've lost friends, they'velost family, they've lost jobs.
Their entire world has centeredaround this man and the fact
that they were quote unquote onthe winning side, the quote
unquote winners.
He has given them purpose,because these people, they have
(08:04):
been miserable for so long butthey haven't connected that they
were miserable and their liveswere not where they wanted them
to be because they insisted onvoting for the people that kept
it that way, which isrepublicans, and so the only
(08:26):
thing they had was owning thelibs.
So they just said I know I'mstarving, but I got to own a lib
today.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know it's, it's, it's yeah, and trump was the
voice for their dis, theirdispleasure with their
circumstances, and the problemfor the republican party is like
all.
So their entire apparatus isnow wrapped up in trump.
You got laura running the, thernc, the trump campaign, soaking
up all the dollars, spending iton trump's legal fee.
So, like the republican partyis now broke, if you've noticed,
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yeah, there are political adsrunning rampant all across the
Internet and even on TV, but instates where they really need to
win, they're not able to spendany money to run nearly as many
ads as the Biden campaign.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Well, that's where the dark money comes in.
They don't have enough of thatLike, like Tim Shee the Montana
race and McCormick that race.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They super PACs are pouring millions of dollars into
those campaigns.
But again, so, if you thinkabout, like, how tv ads function
, like the candidates campaignsget a huge discount and the
super packs have to pay fullprice, and for ads around
election season and football and, like you know, season
(09:44):
premieres, it, like those adspots are extraordinarily
expensive.
So, dollar-for-dollar, they'respending far more than the
Democrats and the Harriscampaign.
It's, it's a it's it's, it's afailure.
It's a failure to properlyappropriate their dollars in the
right way.
But again, if Trump loses,they're gonna have to untangle
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all of this from trump and he'sprobably going to put up a fight
to make sure that that doesn'thappen, because politics is the
only successful business trump'sever had.
But again, if they lose, thiswill be so.
This will be, you know, the2024 presidential that they lost
.
The 2022 midterms, where theyunderperformed and didn't
recapture the senate.
The 2020 election that theylost.
The 2022 midterms where theyunderperformed and didn't
recapture the senate.
The 2020 election, where theylost everything house, senate,
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presidency included.
And the 2018 midterms, wherethey lost the house and, and you
know, got drilled in such a waythat it set up democrats to
take the senate in 2020.
That's's, you know, six yearsof elections, the Republicans
have lost betting on Trump.
No political party has everreally come back from something
like that this is their lastchance and they're going all in.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's why they went ahead and exposed Project 2025.
They wanted to get theevangelicals ginned up Like come
on, please come out, vote forhim.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This is what we got for you.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
This is going to be our gift to you yeah and
speaking of project 2025.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So, like I know, people are like oh, project 2025
, trump wins, they're going toimplement.
They've already implemented thefirst step of project 2025 and
that was getting heritagefoundation approved.
Supreme court justices on thesupreme court to get a, you know
, conservative majority and theypull that off and you've seen
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what's happened since then.
We lost roe v wade.
I mean, they've basicallygranted you know, the next
president immunity from criminalactions and who knows?
chevron, chevron decisionchevron deference is gone, Like
the ability for the federalgovernment to basically regulate
the country.
That's been thrown out.
Imagine what kind of insaneshit they would enable under a
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second Trump administration.
And that was step one.
And if Trump gets in they'lljust finish the job.
But we're already there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Mike Johnson said the first hundred days.
They're working fast.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's going to be full speed, ahead, ahead yeah, they
got a plan to gut the federal.
Look the federal governmentthey're going to let trump fire
every single federal employee,or at least in the executive
branch, and they're going toreplace them with brown shirts
and the supreme court is goingto rubber stamp it, because they
want executives to haveunlimited power anytime a
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republican is in office.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
And again back because they also don't see
what's coming for them.
The court also goes eventuallywell, again.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, right, that's the thing.
So anything that could be apotential help to trump is also
a potential hindrance, and I'massuming he's going to eliminate
his competition, and that wouldinclude the legislative branch
and the judicial branch, andthat's what that's again, that's
what the nazis did when theytook power.
Once they had control of theirown party, they, they eradicated
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all the dissidents and theytook over the media.
The courts were next and fromthere, uh, you know, democracy
in germany fell until the end ofworld war ii, and then some I
mean hell, the wall didn't comedown until the reagan
administration.
Um, so, yeah, you know, justexpect.
Expect the worst if trump wins,but also expect the worst if
trump loses, because again, likethis, will be the death of the
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republican party.
Now, theoretically, I think, ifit's, if it's a massive blowout
in favor of kamala harris, itmight give the party the room to
totally reject trump in such away that that the party's just
willing to pivot, the same waythey pivoted once george bush
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left office in 2008.
Right, like it's, it's likethey erased the bush, the eight
years, the bush administrationfrom their memories.
It's just like they, they go,they, they skip over that and
just go back to Clinton in termsof the way they talk about the
White House, so that might givethem opportunity to kind of you
know rebrand back to the oldconservative party of Mitt
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Romney or whatnot, which wouldjust allow them to continue to
do more of the same.
But if it's close enough andthere are enough people in the
Republican Party who feel like Iwant to continue to stick to
Trumpism, but there's also thatsplit that wants a new path
forward for the Republican Party, then we get our civil war just
inside of the Republican Party,where they spend the next
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decade fighting it out anddestroying themselves, which,
honestly, would be the bestpossible.
I mean, you know, apart from thefact that they might like
attack the Capitol again, ifit's close enough, that would be
the best possible outcomeHaving the Republican party
spend the next decade fightingamongst each other, unable to
mount any sort of kind of youknow, national campaign or
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platform or, you know, warbetween the Republicans and the
state parties, allowingDemocrats to make some gains in
the House, the Senate and statelegislatures and governorships
all across the country to starttrying to undo some of the
damage that you know the Trumpera republican party gets caused
.
I mean, uh, you know, I'mhoping that that's the case, but
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more than anything, it's justimportant that we make sure
these idiots fucking lose.
Speaking of idiots here, trumpbasically offering, offering of
the idea that he himself isdisqualified to hold office.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But nothing is more dangerous than to give immense
power to a weak and not verysmart person.
Just not a smart person.
We need smart.
In fact, I mean, I call for it,but I would love to have it.
We should have cognitive testsfor anybody that runs for
president and vice president.
(15:47):
Oh, how about that guy shepicked for vice president?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What a loser.
Has he seen the events?
No, but yes, obviously it'sextraordinarily dangerous to
give nearly unlimited power to amoron.
And then, well, Trump is thestupid person he's referring to.
The inability to look in amirror there is quite shocking.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Maybe his teleprompter was actually a
mirror.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Can we talk for a second about the rebrand with
the Trump paraphernalia Right?
So he's been showing up herelately over the course of the
past month Proud Boys, well, yes.
So instead of donning theclassic red and white make
America great again gear, he'snow in the black and gold or the
white and gold, and you know,obviously, if you're familiar
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with right wing politics, youknow that that is a dog whistle
to none other than the ProudBoys, one of the right wing
militias that were responsiblefor planning and executing the
attack on the Capitol on January6th, and, like you know, I
don't know what the implicationis there, but this is basically
the same thing as when he got onstage in 2020 and told the
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proud boys to stand back andstand by, like it's a clear
choice to get away from the redand white.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Isn't it?
Isn't it the Oath Keeperscolors too, I swear I thought in
their logo it was gold too,because I know they're all black
and.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, some combination of black, white,
gold and it might maybe gray,black and gold.
So it's just like if you've beenpaying attention to Trump
politics over the course of thepast eight years, apart from his
blue suit and red tie, the onlycolors you see him wear,
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generally speaking, when it'sgot a political reference to it,
is the red and white that'sassociated with the red and
white mega hat.
Now, of course, again we hadthat instance where he was
selling the gold sneakers and Ikind of noticed that there's,
like usually the sneakers he'sselling on his website, or red
or red and white, or white andred, you know some combination.
(17:56):
The the switch to the gold waslike hey, man, this is where is
this going exactly.
He was like this isextraordinarily gaudy, but now
that you've seen the flip withthe hat, too, like this is where
is this going exactly.
He was like this isextraordinarily gaudy, but now
that you've seen the flip withthe hat, too, like this is
obviously okay, it's obviously adog whistle right wing militias
it might be a dog whistle toboth.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I'm looking at the oath keepers logo here and
there's one where it's the OathKeepers.
It's gold on a white background, like his tie and his shirt.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And then there's also in the Proud Boys is like
yellow and white.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's like gold and the black, so it might be to
both, and maybe this is hissignal saying I'm going to
pardon you and those are goingto be his soldiers.
That is a very real possibilityof like hey, hang in there,
guys, you're about to get out.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I guess, it's all possible it's going to be a
rough few months.
I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We're speculating, but I don't think it's reckless.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Carol, I didn't say it was reckless.
Even though I wasn't active onTwitter in 2016, 2017, I did
have a Twitter account.
I was following what was goingon.
I was extraordinarily involvedwith keeping up with, you know,
the trump administration andparticularly the the russia
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investigation as led by specialcounsel robert muller.
I and I gotta tell you, after adecade of this, I'm utterly
exhausted physically, mentally,emotional, psychologically,
spiritually If you believe inspirituality, just in every
single way, I imagine, if you'relistening to this much like I
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am, you are just sick of thisshit.
You want this dude to go awayforever, forever.
And I got to tell you, if youvote for Kamala Harris and she
wins, in all likelihood he mightbe going away a lot sooner than
you think, because so hissentencing coming up yes, his
sentencing for the 34 felony, 34count felony conviction in new
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york is at the end of sept orend of november, the 26th I
believe.
And a lot of people are saying,you know, just generally
speaking, the discourse aroundthat is that no judge is going
to send Trump to prison.
And I got to tell you, if youlook at the pattern of
sentencing for you know crimesand convictions in this similar
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vein in that particular district, motherfuckers go to jail for
at least a year or two.
So it's possible we could seetrump being locked up before
inauguration day if he losesthis election.
Now.
If he wins, there's absolutelyno way, no matter what that
judge decides to do in november,that the supreme court is going
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to let, uh, any kind ofjurisdiction, federal or state
imprison trump for any amount oftime.
They're going to quote unquotepostpone his sentencing until
after his term and I you know,given what he plans to do with
his term if he wins, he ain'tleaving the White House alive
for good or bad.
So you know, in case you weresingle-issue voter and your
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single issue was seeing Trump goto jail and never having to see
his stupid face again, there'syour incentive.
Uh, we also had um a prettyfunny event.
You know, trump likes to bragabout how he has the largest
crowds and he has all thesupport.
You know the this attempt bytrump to treat everything as
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though it's a reality show,because if you project strength
and popularity, then people aremore inclined to believe that
you have the possibility ofwinning, so therefore they're
more motivated to show up andhelp you out on election day.
But you know, as trump wasbragging about the crowd, he got
fact checked in real time atone of his campaign rallies by
the cameraman and it's fuckinghilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Nine years we've had the biggest rallies in history
of any country and every rally'sfull.
You don't have any seats thatare empty.
You don't have anything.
Yet I mean the one we had today.
You missed out Beauty.
We could have filled that placeup 20 times.
I mean that was beautiful.
And the virginia did you hearabout the virginia rally that
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was?
Glenn yonkin did a great job,the governor of virginia and
they had a crowd there.
That was incredible.
And then we came here and wedon't want to be late, but it's
very hard when you do thesethings.
It's, uh, very hard and youdon't mind a little bit.
We weren't very late, weweren't very late.
We weren't very late, just afew minutes.
Just a few minutes, dependingon your definition of when it's
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going to start.
You know, we've been doing.
I was talking to some of thepeople.
It's sort of you know, in a wayit's sad, in a way it's
beautiful.
I was talking to him and I saidyou know, this is coming to an
end.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
These was talking to him and I said you know this is
coming to an end, even if peopleare leaving in the middle of
him singing.
I think I'm going to tell myboss that.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
What is your definition of when I was
supposed to start, because I hadone definition.
Hey man, human resources had adifferent definition, I guess.
I don't know, maybe I'll.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, we'll see how that goes the fact that the
cameraman is doing a better jobof fact-checking trump in real
time than the media does, evenwith pre-recorded, you know,
video.
Kudos to that cameraman.
Get that dude a raise.
I, he, might, he, I guess.
He must be a.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
He's a democratic plant you know he's one of the
deep states.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's just so funny that even the
cameraman was like hey, wait asecond, this is some total
bullshit.
Carol, how many of his ralliesdo you watch?
Do you watch any of them at all, apart from?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
the clips?
No, yeah I understand.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So I don't typically watch all of them.
I try to watch at least everyother one for a good 30, 40
minutes just to see what's goingon.
And again, you know, for themost part it never really
changes.
Rally to rally.
He's talking shit aboutDemocrats.
He's talking about how dumb.
Kyle.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Harris is.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then he goes on his.
Either he does the sharkbattery thing, or he does the
Hannibal Lecter thing, and orboth.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Or the hydrogen cars are going to blow up and you'll
be unrecognizable.
But it's really funny becausethe only people he ever points
out for his death scenario arewomen in the audience you know I
ain't considered that, but youhave you, you that you make a
good point.
That is typically his, his bestin his bag, his repertoire, I
mean when he danica patrick whenshe is bragging, like oh, I'm
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42 years old, I never voted, buttoday I voted for trump.
And she goes to say rally thatnight and he's like points her
out and puts her in his hydrogenbomb to imagine it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Then you go and then you've been murdered, yeah,
exploding danica patrickfiguratively yeah he did that to
marjorie taylor, greenyesterday well, no, nothing, no
nothing is better than exploding, danica patrick, at your trump
rally like or marjorie taylorgreen I mean, that's well.
That's probably more anillusion to the pipe bomber on
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january 6th, but no.
So, cara, do do you know who?
Danica Patrick is the NASCARdriver?
She's the first woman NASCARdriver, so she recently came out
and endorsed I thought it wasFormula 1.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
No, that was NASCAR.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So she recently came out and endorsed Trump, you know
saying she was, you know,voting for Trump, whatever.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's something, women or other,and this is.
This is funny, because if youunderstand the history of danica
, even being in nascar, likethey've basically been calling
her a dei hire for a decade.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, I was just gonna say that that's the gag
and it's like oh so you're?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
you're endorsing the, you know, the political party
that fucking hates your guts andwish you never existed and
didn't have a job in NASCAR.
That's.
That's quite ironic there.
But yeah, you know, look again.
As we said, if Trump supportersaren't garbage, they're stupid.
They're stupid uh.
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So, apart from the cameramancompletely destroying trump's
claims of him having superpacked uh rallies, there was
also nick fuentes, noted uhneo-nazi, who's finally come to
the light and, amidst the trumpcampaign, is, in fact, a cult
garbage and at the trump ralliesthey're yelling trash for Trump
, trash for Trump.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
And I saw other people.
I saw white guys.
I saw Hispanic guys.
Hispanic guys inside trash cans, jumping out of them with Trump
signs, white guys with garbagebags that say trash for Trump
2024.
And that was kind of like to me.
That was the moment when Irealized Trumpism was a cult.
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That was the moment when Irealized liberals are right.
That was the moment when Irealized it has gone too far.
It is Frankenstein's monster.
We have created a golem.
It is a problem.
You know, for years, liberalssaid it's a cult.
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You, it is a problem.
You know.
For years, liberals said it's acult, you're an occult.
And I said where you're goingto jail?
You're going to jail.
It is a cult and we are in itand you are going to jail.
That's how I felt about it forthe past eight years.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So I hate the jail part who's going to jail?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
we are democrats yeah , he was saying liberals are
going to jail and now he'sconvinced that we were right and
they're called and they'reprobably going to prison.
Uh, but yeah, I hate to say it.
I think for the first time inmy life I agree with the
neo-nazi I'll cut it soon dinner.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
But yes, let's just just be clear that he has come
to his senses but surely stillstill hates Jews and blacks.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh yeah, look, I'm not approving of anything Nick
Fuentes stands for.
This is, like you know, brokenclock.
It's right Twice a day type ofthing Like it'll probably never
happen again.
In fact, like that he's rightonce at all is actually kind of
disheartening.
But again, you know, ifyou-wing supporter you know nick
fuentes, is even down withpresident trump, he's been one
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of his most ardent supporters uh, you know I think he was more
supporter of the racism, but thegarbage bags were just too much
though yeah, the diapers didn'tdo it for him, but with him
dressing up his, his white trashon halloween, that was a bridge
too far for noted neo-Nazi DickFuentes.
It's incredible.
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So, apart from you know, justthe utter stupidity of the right
and conservatives, and theTrumpers specifically, we did
have.
On a more positive note, we hadan interesting development over
the course of the week whennoted NBA superstar and current
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LA Laker, lebron James, made apolitical endorsement.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
It'll be a good day.
Everything's kind of silent andI wanted to make sure that it's
seen, heard, and heard withforce.
So, you know, I have a daughter, I have a wife, wife, a mother,
you know, and things of thatnature she believes in.
When it comes to women's rights, when it comes to the future of
, you know, my kids, and where Isee our country should be, I'm
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damn sure I'm going the otherway.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
What is your experience in 2020 with the NFL?
Teach you about politics.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Show you about politics.
Show you about the impact youcan have on a very specific way.
Well, I mean, it all startedwith the shut up and dribble,
you know thing, obviously, umand uh, to be able to I'm in a
position where you can have someinfluence and, uh, you have a
lot of people who you know, whowant to be in a position to have
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influence, to be able to speakoutside of their, their realm of
sports or, you know, music ormovies or whatever it is,
whatever the industry is, to beable to have a platform where I
was able to gather a lot of menand women to be able to speak
out.
From that moment and then, morethan a vote campaign, obviously
an initiative.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, so last week LeBron, on his Instagram and
Twitter and other social mediaplatforms, posted a pro Kamala
Harris ad where he basicallyendorsed Kamala Harris and he
was coming out to vote forKamala Harris and that his
supporters should as well.
And he was asked about it inthe post-game press conference
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and refused to stand on hiscomments.
When LeBron was asked about itat that press availability event
after the game, he explainedhis political stance.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I think also the other guy probably just couldn't
explain his political stance.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Not that I'm going to .
He looks like a meathead incell.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah.
So, Nick Bosa, I think hispolitical stance is.
You probably should ask himwhere he was on January 6th.
Lebron, on the other hand,again, you know, and I've said,
you should also probably coveryour drink around him.
So I said this previously, youknow again, there's been, you
know, for years now, at leastsince the advent of, you know,
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trump brand of politics, theright wing and pro-conservative
media.
Anytime an athlete or you knowa public figure comes out in
favor of support of you knowsome positive social stance or
political stance, they don'tagree with.
The obvious retort there, shutup and dribble.
But anytime some kind ofright-wing athlete does it, then
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that's when they get celebrated.
Um, I'm a fan of you know,regardless of what political
stances you say take, I I wantevery popular athlete to take a
political stance, including theowners of these you know sports
franchises, because I want toknow where you stand.
Now they're typically you knowthe owners and a lot of
right-winning or right-leaningathletes and such aren't going
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to do that because theyunderstand that it could
potentially affect their dollarsand not willing to stand on the
things they believe in.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't want to be walking around with a fucking
Bosa jersey, a fucking AaronRodgers jersey, a Brett Favre
jersey.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
If I'm a Negro and I find out, this is what you think
about me, fuck you man, andthat's your merch and that right
there is why they typicallyaren't going to come out and do
those things, but I wish theydid.
I would like to know.
I would like to know how thesepeople feel.
I would like to know like thelevel.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I think we should be.
It should be trump and lessproven kamala right at this
point, like if you're not goingto say anything, then I'm just
going to have to kind of assume.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know what, regardless of anybody's stance,
I can respect somebody thatactually has real conviction in
what they believe in and canexplain why I may not agree with
it, I might think it's gross,but at least I know that you've
put some actual thought into itand where the way you feel is
coming from your actual feelingon that issue, not just rant,
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you know, behind on somebandwagon or doing it for clout
or just chasing Trumpism,because Trumpism is quote
unquote thing right now, likethe way Mark Cuban just
demolished Dana White on on thisinterview and he was like and
this is why you're wrong, andDana White, it was crickets he
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had.
He couldn't say a motherfuckingthing, and that's usually how it
goes with Trump people.
But you know I mean of course Idon't have any respect at all
for David Duke and he is ahorrible human being.
However, he will to the grave,he's gonna take his beliefs with
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him.
He stands firm in what hebelieves in.
But these other people theycan't articulate themselves the
way that, like LeBron James can,and some of these other players
, the way Colin Kaepernick did,and they resent that.
You know they want to have thatand they're trying to ride on
(34:39):
the coattails of this MAGA thing, but they just end up owning
themselves and looking likefucking fools.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't think all of them can articulate their
positions.
I think their, I think theirpositions, generally speaking,
are so abhorrent that they don'twant to articulate them
publicly because and that letsyou know that they know they are
yeah and they know that,because if you really felt like
they were, it was really thatpopular you would.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
But you just can't, bosa just couldn't, got up there
and just said you know, I justreally hate n words, you know,
because that wouldn't have goneover so well, especially in the
locker room well, no one can saythat, you know, but yeah did
you know.
But that lets you know they'reon the wrong side of history and
social issues, justice etc.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
But, and it's particularly so, outside of
baseball and possibly soccer.
It's actually extraordinarilydifficult to be super pro,
publicly right wing, for anobvious reason those sports are
majority black in terms of theplayers, and you gotta go in
your locker room with yourteammates who you play for, play
with and for for years at atime and, like you know, you got
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a bunch of black teammates.
You can't be out here with asuper racist candidate, you know
, wearing it on your sleeve oryour hat Nick Bosa's case
without some possible backlashinside the locker room with the
team, with the team organization, even though the owners at the
top are likely pro Trumptrump inmost cases, it's just, I mean
but the thing is you could rocka maga hat in 2016 and nobody
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would really too much give youside eye, and maybe even up
until 2020, but between 2020 and2024, there are no quiet parts.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
So if you rock that hat now, it has a whole
different vibe to it.
With the shit that we've beenseeing for the past four years,
the things they've been saying,the, the, the people that have
been it's a it's the energy iscompletely different.
So while back then it was justlike okay, whatever do you, now
it's a it's.
The energy is completelydifferent.
So while back then it was justlike okay, whatever do you, now
(36:54):
it's like nah bro, it's justwearing it tells me what you
think, because it's a scar onthe letter.
Yeah, you endorse all the badthings that come along, all that
shit, yeah, yeah yeah, maybeyou had a little bit of degrees
of separation back then, Likewhen people said well, you know,
I just thought and I didn'ttake.
You can't say that now with astraight fucking face.
(37:16):
You can try, but you can't.
So it's like I see you.
I see you, bro, so hope youdon't need the DL.
You know somebody coming foryou Like they're going to do it
for you.
Like they gonna do him.
Like they gonna do him likeJamie Foxx on any given Sunday
after he made them comments andhis ass got ate the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That was crazy.
Just let him get smashed backthere in the backfield, smashed
all day up, alright.
So Saturday there was a pollreleased.
One of the most prominent, wellwell-known and well-respected
pollsters in Iowa, seltzer,released a poll showing that
(37:59):
Kamala Harris had a significantlead over Trump in Iowa.
I thought it was three, yeah,it might have been three points.
So you know that rocked thepolitical world because,
generally speaking, over thecourse of the past, you know a
two or three point margin, ifnot sometimes nailing it exactly
(38:32):
.
And this rocked the politicalworld, not because you know
people are believing that KamalaHarris is actually going to
outright win Iowa, but if Trumpis doing so poorly in Iowa that
this pollster might be correctlypredicting within a handful of
points that Kamala Harris hasput Iowa in play.
(38:54):
What it says about thepossibility of Kamala Harris
running away with the electionin other swing states, or you
know, just demographically, interms of the similarities
between Iowa and states like,say, minnesota or Ohio, if it's
that close, then Trump is cooked.
And again, so I think if, if shehad come out and said Trump
(39:19):
were winning Iowa by six points,no one would bat an eye and, in
fact, the right would be usingit as evidence that Trump is
about to win the 2020 electionin overwhelming fashion, or at
least in fashion similar to 2016.
But this suggests that, just interms of demographics, kamala
(39:40):
Harris is likely to overperformwith women voters, particularly
white, educated voters, bothmale and female, and just like
older voters in terms of, youknow, the 55 and up crowd and
that has implications for stateslike North Carolina, georgia,
(40:01):
maybe not so much Arizona, but anumber of states that Trump
needs to win Like.
If this pollster is correctabout what the data shows about
Kamala Harris's chances, it'snot going to look pretty for
Trump on election day Now.
I assume that Tuesday we'reprobably not going to know the
results of the election eitherway, even if Trump appears to
(40:23):
possibly be in a position to winthe election.
But if Kamala Harris doeshappen to win something like
North Carolina, we'll know thatpretty early to be able to look
at results in Florida and have apretty clear indication of even
you know the fact that shemight lose the state but still
overperform.
That has implications for otherstates, particularly the blue
(40:45):
wall or any population also thedown ballot candidates.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
It could, it could, you know, while she may just
barely miss it the trajectory,but we could pick up some much
needed seats.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Flip some seats yeah, it'll definitely have
implication for, like, whetheror not Democrats regain or
retain control of the House.
But it also has implicationsfor Georgia and Arizona, who
have Hispanic populations thatvote in pretty large numbers.
But you know, typically Florida, like the Cuban population, is
(41:26):
slightly different in terms ofHispanic voters.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I wouldn't even lump them together, but you know what
the Haitian, the puerto ricanpopulation might just cancel
them the fuck out this year.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So absolutely so, if we have signs in florida, that
show harris performing stronglywith certain demographic,
demographic groups has prettyclear implications about how
well she'll perform in, you know, pennsylvania, michigan,
wisconsin, north carolina,arizona, georgia all the states
that trump absolutely needs inorder to stay out of prison.
(41:57):
Uh, and then just again, likethe iowa, the iowa poll was a
bombshell, not just because shehas such a history of, you know,
being fairly accurate onpredictions, but like it is,
really it is.
It is causing a bunch of doomand panic in right-wing circles
(42:19):
because they know what itimplies and they know that if
that's the case, then it's allover before we and they don't
have time to do no votersuppression there?
no, absolutely not.
And so another thing thing istypically I would say, you know,
if you're looking at the pollstrying to figure out whether or
not they're predictive in termsof the 2024 election, they're
going to be less predictive thanever out these.
(42:53):
So you, it's difficult to cook apoll in terms of like, the, the
, the flat results from what youget from the participants.
But all of these foals getweighted by what they expect the
electorate to look like andthey've been under sampling
women.
They've been under sampling,you know, black women voters,
black male voters, they've beenunder sampling educated voters
to get to a number that makes itlook as though Trump's got,
like you know, a one point leadin states that Kamala Harris
(43:14):
will probably win by maybe ahalf a point or a point.
In states where you know Trumpmight win by a point.
These polls have been showingTrump up by three and four in
order to make the people who putout the polling averages just
say throw it into the average,and it makes it look as though
trump is performing strongerthan he actually is.
(43:34):
And this, this specificpollster, is well, in fact, just
, I don't know she's, I justdisregard polling averages is
what I'm saying, basically, just.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Just throw those out.
Tell people to vote.
Go vote, make everyone vote.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
So it's not just tell people to vote.
It's that you shouldn't usethese polling averages as some
kind of indicator of what youthink is going to happen on
Election Day, because thosepolls are cooked, and I know
this because if you look atswing state Senate races,
generally speaking, all of theDemocratic Senate races in these
states, the Democrat is runningaway with it, or at least in
close states, they're up by, youknow, plus three, plus four,
(44:19):
plus five over what the pollingaverages are saying in terms of
the presidential election.
And I, you know, would just takeit with a grain of salt, these
things that are suggesting Trumpis going to win outright.
It's obviously going to be aclose election.
It's likely going to besomething like 2016, where it
comes down to four or fivestates, 200,000 votes split
(44:41):
between them.
That'll be the difference inwho comes out victorious.
But I would say all the factorsat this point are pointing in
favor of Kamala Harris and if Iwere to pick a position that I
would want to be in, I wouldwant to be the Harris campaign.
Right now and I think, justmost importantly, as we head
(45:02):
into Election Day again, if youhaven't voted, vote already.
Do what you can to ensure thatyour friends and family members
turn out to vote.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Volunteer to drive people to the polls, if you can
do so, if you have theavailability the NAACP is giving
free rides on Lyft $20 up totwo rides for a total of $40 to
the polls.
So if you go to NAACP vote 24,twenty four Dot, hold on and
(45:38):
that and go there.
But yeah, so they're.
They're giving people a handwith that, which is which is
amazing, and I posted that on myFacebook because I have a
family in North Carolina.
You know friends and family inGeorgia, in Michigan, in Flint,
in Pennsylvania, new York, butjust trying to get everybody,
yeah, so I got to take food outof the oven.
(46:04):
Oh my God.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
My kids haven't eaten .
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Fuck them kids.
No, so just you know everyonewho's been listening to this
podcast over the course of thepast couple of years like we
appreciate all of your support,that you tune in every single
week, that you press play onthat play button, that you share
this with your friends and onsocial media to your followers
and whatnot, and like it's beenquite the journey for us, I
(46:30):
would imagine as just as much ofa journey as it's been for you
Got the possibility of beingpart of something historic.
You know I look back at 2008.
I live in Tennessee.
It's a red state.
You know at the time whatlittle my vote mattered.
It didn't really feel like Iwas largely responsible for the
(46:50):
advent of the Obamaadministration, as historic as
it was.
Again, looking at where I wasthen and the opportunity that I
have to play a role in thiselection, I feel like this is my
opportunity to personally putmy stamp on making sure we
arrive at a historic moment ofhaving the first black woman to
(47:15):
become president of the UnitedStates.
And you have that opportunityas well.
Even if you're a blue dot in ared state or your state votes
overwhelmingly democratic, notjust in a swing state like any
state.
You have the opportunity to saythat you made the decision that
we're going to end the insanitybrought upon America by
(47:38):
Republicans and Trump specificover the course of the past
decade.
You're going to put an end tothat and bring forth something
we've never had in this countrybefore, and this is your
opportunity to feel like youhave the chance to contribute to
American history and I suggestyou take it.
That concludes this episode ofPardon the Insurrection.
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