Dick on a Stick

The central premise of this podcast episode revolves around an exclusive interview with Kevin Broussard, the original Indiana Jones stunt performer from Disney's Hollywood Studios. In this enlightening discourse, I, alongside my co-host, delve into Broussard's illustrious career, exploring the nuances of his role and the behind-the-scenes intricacies of the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular. We traverse the landscape of his journey, from his initial audition, which was shrouded in secrecy, to his experiences on the red carpet during the premiere of the latest Indiana Jones film, "Dial of Destiny." As Broussard recounts these captivating anecdotes, we gain insight into the evolution of the show and the unique challenges he faced throughout his tenure, including the physical demands of performing stunts in front of large audiences. This episode is a celebration of nostalgia, craftsmanship, and the enduring magic of Disney, offering listeners a profound appreciation for the artistry involved in bringing such beloved characters to life.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Disney
• Sandpiper Vacations
• Creators United
• Kevin Broussard
• Indiana Jones
• Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular

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Episode Transcript

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My name is Scott.
I am the host, and this weekis kind of a best of.
Not really a best of, but it'san unheard interview.
That's right.
This is the interview that Idid with Dane on Creators United

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with Kevin Broussard, theoriginal Indiana Jones stuntman from
the Indiana Jones epic Stuntspectacular at Disney's Hollywood
Studios.
It is an incredible interview.
It starts about six minutesin, but there's some fun banter beforehand
that you're gonna want here asit relates to some past, past topics.

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But here you go.
Enjoy our interview with KevinBroussard and we'll be back with
new episodes next week.
What's good, everybody?
We are Creators United.
It's a podcast that is still.
We're still searching foridentity, for our identity.
It's like right before youcome out of the closet, you're still
searching.
You're still searching.

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That's what we're doing.
We are still in the closet ofidentity, of podcasts.
But I'm Scott, the host of theParents Night out podcast with no
new friends.
And with me, the host of thebig beautiful Diz.
And that's dis YouTube channel.
Dane.
Dane, how's it going, man?

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Hello.
Hello.
It's going well.
It's doing well.
You know, something that'sbeen on my mind, and I actually haven't
shared this with you untilnow, so this is really exciting for
me.
So I'm excited, too.
We have our moments.
I definitely have our.
My moments on the podcastwhere I'm like, oh, I probably shouldn't
have said that.

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And typically, it's after theepisode is released that I.
That I realize that.
Or.
Or I make a mistake and I getfact checked.
Well, Dane, this.
This next story is about you, sir.
Oh, okay.
I received a phone call fromsomeone who said, hey, I saw this
video on YouTube, andapparently this guy friend of yours.

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And I was like, oh, do tell.
And knowing who I was talkingto on the phone, I knew exactly which
video it was.
Oh, I think I know.
Which.
I know.
Yeah, I know which one you.
You.
I know who you received a call from.
So I'm like, well, JeffKaufman, which video are you talking
about?
So Jeff Kaufman calls me, andJeff Kaufman, for those of you who

(04:00):
don't know, was the leaddefense attorney on the Tigger trial.
And he's like.
He's like, yeah, I watched the Sega.
He got, like, most of thefacts wrong.
And I'm like, very littlethings I want to point out stuff
that was not publiclyavailable probably.
Right, Right.
And I'm like, which.

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I don't know, Jeff.
Hey, he did comment, which Iwas very appreciative of.
He did correct me on the stuffthat I didn't even know.
That's pretty cool, though.
So.
Yeah, but I'm.
Yeah, I'm happy for it,though, because then it's.
It's out there.
And the stuff that I foundthat was public obviously was not
correct, which.

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Right, right.
So I told him.
I said, dude, hey, I want tosay I.
I made a mistake.
I just want to come out andsay I'm sorry.
It will not happen again.
I just want to, you know,thank you.
Eat a sandwich.
Yeah.
I just want to.
I just want to make sure that,you know, thank.
Thank Scott, Jeff, thank youfor calling me out on this public

(05:05):
forum just so that we can moveon from this and.
And I hope to regaineveryone's trust in the very near
future.
So I told him.
I was like.
I was like, dane is such a good.
Such a good guy.
I was like, I'm sure it wasminor little oversights, and Jeff
wasn't mad.
And he's like, I'm thinking ofreaching out to him.

(05:26):
I said, you definitely.
I said, if you reached out tohim, Dane would, like.
That would be the biggestThing for D.
He would love that and just beready to do like a follow up interview
video because I, you know,that would be really cool.
But he, he said it's a good video.
He's gonna check out some ofyour other stuff.
No, well, hey, at least he, atleast he liked it.

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I, you know, whenever thepeople that like I do the videos
on, like when I, when they seeit, then I'm obviously very nervous
because usually that doesn'tgo well for me.
Last time I tried to do some,some of the times I've tried to do
that, people have not beenappreciative of, of the work.
Right.

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But yeah, I'm glad that heliked it.
He left a very nice commentand also corrected the stuff that
like apparently I said in the script.
I said like what did.
I said something about, aboutthe like evidence that they had that
the, that the opposing.
The girl had.
And I said like something about.

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I said like, I said somethinglike, which I.
The evidence that I assumethat they had.
And like, you know, just.
I couldn't find any of the, Icouldn't find like the stuff that
was written about the actualKeats itself.
So I just assumed that theyhad Evan.
Apparently they didn't.

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So.
Yeah, but that was that.
Yeah, that was appreciative.
Just Jeff's.
Jeff seems like a good guy.
So I was, I was thankful that.
And Jeff's a really good dude.
And listen, if anything, itwas nice to catch up with him for
a little bit because I hadn'ttalked to him in a while and it was.
Funnier that that justhappened to be the video that I put

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the no new friends add in atthe tickets.
Oh, that's right.
1.
Because I knew because he evensaid in the comment he, I'm a buddy
with Scott.
And I was like, wait a minute.
So I went back in the videoand that's the first one I put the
ad in.
So that's why.
That's.
Yeah, I was wondering, I waslike, how did he know that we were
friends and that would makesense now that, now that makes sense.

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Yeah, you know, it's.
I remember when you put thatvideo out.
I wish I would have known thatyou were making that video because
I would have tried to see if Icould make a connection there.
Yeah, I tried to make a connection.
If I, if I remember correctly,I tried to make it.
I think you did.
And I wasn't sure if.
I don't know.
I.
Probably the email that Ireach out to wasn't active or something.

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Anymore, you know, when youneed us dot com.
Yeah.
Or maybe since I put out thevideo, the statue of limitations
has run out or something andyou could talk about it now.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But wasn't there a lot.
Oh, that was in New York thatthe, this, that was, that was shortened.
Right?
Or something like that?

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Wasn't there like a, wasn'tthere like a law like that in some
state that like now allowedpeople to talk about cases that are
old?
Because.
Is that why Steven Tyler washit with one?
Some of the stuff that, thelegal stuff that he was hit with
could.
Be the only news I follow.

(08:40):
The only current events that Ifollow are the ones that impact my
fantasy football team.
Like Rik Hill gets arrested.
Like that is news to me.
Don't get me started on this.
Well, let's, let's talk aboutthat for a second because Dane, you
know what you're doing andyou've had a good team all year in
the Disney.
Well, okay, so all year it'sbeen you, Alex, me in the top three

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spots and the three of us havebeen kind of teeter totting a little
bit.
And one of the Jackies who Isaid watch out.
Like this is a good team shewas in.
I think she's the one thatbeat me.
But.
So our draft was four days long.
Four days long.
We had people drafting RobGronkowski who's been retired for

(09:28):
like three years.
We did.
Tom Brady was drafted.
Like you'd go Owen, 10 or ohand 11 or something.
Well, yeah, they drafted fourquarterbacks and didn't start one
one week.
And I was like, how is this?
Like, do you even have enoughroster spots?
I don't quarterback on this roster.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
And here we are, you and I geteliminated in the first round of

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the playoffs and I'm like, howdoes this, in what world does this
happen?
Oh, I'll tell you in any Purdy.
Doesn'T do anything in anypodcast league.
That starts with dis.
It doesn't matter how good myteam is.
I'm going to be terrible.
Yeah.
Okay.
Another case in point.
A case of continuity if you will.

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We do the dis Journey fantasyfootball league a couple years ago.
Right.
League.
I, I had a great team.
I, I won in one year.
Yeah.
I think you played my brotherin law in the, in the finals.
Yeah.
Cuz that was.
Oh, that's right.
Because that was in Disney.
I was in Disney when that happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember pulling out myphone in Tomorrowland and seeing
the final result.
Yep.
It's quite magical, actually.

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Yeah.
So we're in a league where oneguy doesn't take a running back until
the 10th round and drafts.
Gio Giovanni Bernard.
Yeah, he did.
Okay.
And.
Oh, my God, I just saw the name.
We have a guest in the studio,by the way.

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Ladies and gentlemen.
Happy birthday to you, my man.
What's your favorite show inDisney World history?
Well, the Indiana Jones EpicStunt Spectacular is my favorite
show.
Mine, too.
This is unbelievable.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasewelcome Kevin Broussard, original
Indiana Jones from the Indiana.

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Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular.
I am so nervous, I can't evenget out my intro.
No, come on, seriously, it'sjust me.
He's a celebrity on the show.
It's not so much.
Okay.
This is unreal.
Kevin, it's so good to meet you.
I've met you in person once after.
I stuck around after the show,but I think there's a picture of

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me in y'all's break room.
I'm not allowed to the show anymore.
I'm just kidding.
It's not that bad.
We did have to ban you, Kevin.
I've been.
I.
I've been going to HollywoodStudios since it was MGM Studios
back in, you know, 89, 90.
And my sister and I used toput on the epic Stunt spectacular

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in my living room with alittle Nerf basketball that we would
roll down the hallway and.
And the way that my living room.
I had a hallway and I couldjump behind the couch just as the.
The ball passed me.
That was last week.
I think I torn acl, But I.
Was just about to ask you, how.
Old were you last week?

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Yes, it was on Monday for his.
His birthday party.
Kevin, thank you so much forbeing here.
I actually heard an interviewwith you a couple weeks ago.
It was an older interview on adifferent podcast that I just randomly
stumbled upon.
And thank you for beinggracious with your time.
It's.
It's unbelievable.
Oh, it's not.

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It's.
It's what we're supposed to doin life, right?
We're supposed to be kind andhelp people out, and that's.
That's what we do.
Be humble and be kind.
Well, that was my biggesttakeaway is just how humble and kind
you are.
You've got one of the coolestjobs I do tonight.
Yes.
And I've heard all the thingsthat you've done.

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Opening up cruise lines and.
And now you get to train allthe Indies.
And, and you're still in the show.
Tell me about your journey.
It has been an amazing journey.
Starting.
You want me to go back?
Like, way back?
Let's.
Yeah, let's start at the beginning.
Start.
Start at the very beginning.
All right, so I started withDisney, Disney in 1987.

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And I was originally hired forthe Hoopty Doo Revue.
I was there for two years andI got a call from casting asking
me if I'd like to audition foran action character named Jack.
So I did.
I auditioned.
I went away thinking, okay, Ihad a great audition and I forgot
about it.
Three months later I got acall from casting saying, how would

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you like to be Indiana Jones?
And I'm like, I didn'taudition for that.
And they said, yes, you did.
You just didn't know itbecause it was a huge secret.
They wanted this to be keptvery hush hush because they were
bringing in the.
Glenn Randall Jr.
The stunt coordinator for allthe movies.
He's also.

(14:08):
Oh, gosh, this man.
He is also the original BobaFett stunt double.
Oh, wow.
Or the Star wars movies.
And this is the man that cameto Orlando and hand picked who he
wanted to be in his show.
And, and I mean, what an honorfor me.

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I, I was blown away.
And we trained for nine monthswith him.
And while the stage was beingbuilt, because it was, it was dirt
back then, right?
And as it was getting closer,you know, the, they were starting
to advertise.
This is a great story.
They started advertising forthe show.

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And one morning we all weregathered at the warehouses and these
film people came in and theywanted to find out if Glenn Randall
would shoot a commercialrunning from the Boulder.
And he said, well, I'm notIndiana Jones.
I've got three Indiana Jonesover there.

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You know, why don't you chooseone of those?
And they're like, oh, thoseare, those are Disney employees.
We really can't do that.
And then Glenn.
There were three stuntmen.
Glenn Randall Jr.
Larry Holt and Bob Yerkes.
They were all the men thatwere training us.
And they wanted one of them tobe running from the boulder, but

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they didn't want to do it.
Glenn Reynolds was like, no,I, I don't feel like running from
the boulder today.
Why don't you, why don't youask him?
So they came over and theyasked me if I would like to do it.
And I said, of course I wouldlove to do it.
What, what an honor.
And what Disney did was fireme for the day and then hire me the

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next day.
So I wasn't an employee, and Igot to shoot the commercial, and
I got SAG residuals for years.
Oh, wow.
Commercial.
That was amazing.
Just amazing.
Now, does that hurt yourseniority when it came to schedule
bids?
Because.
Okay, not at all.
But you would think it would,but it did not.

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And then let's fast Forwardthe next 30 years.
I portrayed Indiana Joneshopefully to the very best that I
could do.
And I always say I haven'tworked because I've been at the stage
now for 35 years, Disney for 37.

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But I always say I haven'tworked in 35 years.
I've just played.
Sure.
That's amazing.
I mean, it's the dream.
Do something that you love andyou can make a living doing it truly
is.
And that's what I've tried topass on to my kids.
I'm like, you just gotta findsomething that you're passionate
about and that you really,really want to do, and then it's

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never a job.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
So cool.
Now you got to do a lot of.
To me.
Iconic things.
You were.
You were the Indiana Jonesstuntman during the Full House.
Disney was.
You had a little bit of amullet back then.

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Yeah, I had a big old mullet.
Now, were you also in theDonnie Wahlberg New Kids on the Block
Wildest Dreams?
No, that wasn't me.
Okay.
I think that was.
I think that was Larry Lee.
Okay.
But you got to be the StarWars Indiana Jones during that.
I did.
I did.
And what an honor that showwas because it was three shows for

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one night, and George Lucaswas in the audience.
All.
They were all there.
All the Star Wars, MarkHamill, they were all there.
And the fact that the fanswere so into this, it was just.
When I dropped in from theceiling, I.

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I've only heard that applauseonce later, since then, but it was
just uproarious.
It was just so loud.
They were so into the show.
And I.
There was a part where I wasgoing through the punjis, and you

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know that we.
We combined Star wars andIndiana Jones together.
Right, right.
This one show.
So Jar Jar's head was on oneof the punjis.
It was covered up so theycouldn't see it.
And then when the punji poppedup, that cover stayed down, and his
head was supposed to be on topof the punji.

(18:53):
Right.
Well, the gag didn't work.
I went through the punjis.
Jar Jar's head came off.
And then I looked at it, andI'm like, I gotta do something.
So I went down the stairs, Ipicked up Jar Jar's head, and I like
this.
Holding his head like this.
And I went, really, George?
Jar Jar.
And I stuck it on the punjiand I went up the stairs.

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Seems like every show is justso, so much fun to you guys.
How much improv are youallowed to throw in there?
To me, not much, because thelines seem to be the same every single
show, and I've seen a lot of them.
Yeah, I know.
I know you have.
So we do have.
We do have leeway, you know,to improv if the situation arises

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and we need to fill time orfill space.
Right.
But for the most part, yes,the show just runs from beginning
to end, usually all the same dialogue.
But the show is never the same.
I have to tell you that it hasnever been the same for 35 years
because you have differentcast members who do things differently.

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And some are great, some are not.
Right.
Who are not.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm not going to be just kidding.
Just kidding.
So how many years.
And I know you took a break todo some other stuff, but how many
years from start to finish,did you play Indy?
I would for a total of 30 years.

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Okay.
Wow.
And that.
That 30th anniversary showwhere they invited everyone who had
ever been a part, whether youwere talent or tech or costuming
or stage manager or showdirector, they were all invited to
the 30th anniversary show.

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And that is the second time Iheard that uproarious applause when
I dropped in and they foundout who the indie was that was doing
the 30th.
Now, I didn't get to do thewhole show.
I only got to do scene one.
But that was an honor and Iwas so honored to be able to do it.
So had you stopped playingIndy at that point and they had you

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kind of come back to it forone night, limited time magic?
Well, kind of.
I mean, for the most part, yes.
I had moved on.
They put me into one of theacting roles in the show, and I was
happy to do that because theyalso told me that I would still be
able to train the indies whenthey came in.
And that's my passion, seeingthe light in someone's eye when they

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finally get the whip or a highfall that they, you know, might have
been a stumbling block forthem when they finally feel good
enough to do it.
So, yeah, I was still doingit, but it was rare.
Right.
You know, what.
What I.
What I love about you and whatI'VE heard in interviews.

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And just first of all, it,whether you're the director or the
talent director or, you know,the various roles that you play now,
it looks like you're having somuch fun.
I am.
It's like, it's, it's, it'slike this is just fun for him.
But you tell a story, and Ilove that you appreciate the small
things, like when you'vetrained a new indie, but you tell

(22:20):
a story about a picture thatyou saw with a father and their child.
Can you kind of talk about.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gives me goosebumps.
Yeah.
So I needed something toinspire these new people that were
coming in because, you know,I'm old school and I'm all about

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emotions and emotions andIndiana Jones, they, they tie themselves
together very well.
And I needed something forthese new indies to kind of latch
onto, to know, for them toknow how important it is what you're
doing out there.

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So there was a father and a son.
They both had Indiana Joneshats on.
And the father's got his armaround his son like this.
But I took the picture fromthe backside so they're looking at
the show.
Right.
And that picture just speaksvolumes about what that dad is giving

(23:27):
up.
Because as a father, youalways want your son to look up to
you and just.
You want to be.
Oh, sorry.
You want to be his hero.
Right.
And that picture just conveyedit so well.
So I tried to convey that tomy new indies and that's really all
I had to do is show them thatpicture because they, they understood.

(23:53):
Yes.
What they're doing.
They are portraying acharacter, but there's more to it
that you are that kid's heroat that moment.
Right.
And that, it just means so much.
Yeah.
Thank you for sharing that.
The first time I heard thatstory, I've, I've, I have used that
story and I credit you in for,for, for my staff because it's just

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such a cool moment.
And I mean, you embody whatit, what it is to be a Disney cast
member that you know to justhow important every single role that's
being played out at WaltDisney World is.
So I love that story.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
What, what is the biggestdifference between playing indie

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30 years ago and then someoneplaying indie now?
What are the biggest differences?
Playing it 30 years ago was alot harder.
It truly was.
We didn't have the hugeceiling fans that they have now.
They're actually, actuallycalled big ass fans.
And yes, they are wonderful.
They're Wonderful.

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They keep the audience cooland they keep us cool, but we didn't
have those back then.
And in the middle of summer,it was extremely hot.
We.
We.
Our costume was not as finelytuned as it is right now.
The boots that we wore backthen were construction boots.
Steel toe.

(25:20):
Oh, my gosh.
They weighed probably 10 pounds.
And that's not a lie.
Oh, my gosh.
And the word probably theworst is that during peak seasons,
we had 14 shows a day.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I think you peak now at six,two casts.
Okay, so you had seven and seven.

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And if one of your indiesdidn't show up for the PM cast, you
were asked, hey, can you stay?
And you had to do anotherprobably four shows.
Oh, my goodness.
It's crazy.
But I was a lot younger then,and I.
So I think you get.

(26:05):
You peak at six shows now, right?
Yeah, we have five.
Five, Five.
Five shows a day.
Wow.
And so, yeah, we.
There's not really anopportunity for the nighttime show
anymore, which was always myfavorite as a kid.
I know.
And that show, I'm tellingyou, is designed to be done at nighttime.
Yeah.
The lighting on the.
On the berms and the lighting in.

(26:26):
In scene one.
Oh, it's just fantastic.
It's incredible.
I got to tell you, when I wasa kid, I would go see three indie
shows per day.
Okay.
I would go to the first.
You all stop.
I go to the.
I would go.
Still a kid.
I am.
I am.
Especially when it comes tothe Indiana Jones stunt show.
I have to.
Kevin.
I have to watch myself,because sometimes I'll say the lines

(26:49):
and.
And I.
I try to say it very quietlyso that I'm not ruining the show
for everybody else.
Like, my favorite line is that.
Can you explain the dangers ofworking with pyrotechnics?
And then usually Big Steve ismy favorite.
Working with pyrotechnics,it's dangerous.
It's my favorite.
Anyway, three shows.
First show, and then I wouldforce my parents to take us to backlot

(27:10):
Express, and we would sit bythe table right by the fence so I
could see from the side.
And then we'd go see thenighttime show.
That's amazing.
So I know the show very, very well.
Yeah, you do.
Any.
Any chance of the audiencevolunteers, but more importantly,
the plant and audience coming back?

(27:32):
Unfortunately, I don't thinkthat will happen.
I really wish it would.
I really do.
We just got back our honoraryassistant directors, which is a.
It's a step in the right direction.
Right.
So we have two kids coming oh,you know, two or one or sometimes
three.
And they come down and theysay, lights, camera, action, and
the show starts.

(27:53):
And that is, like I said, astep in the right direction.
But I think the powers thatbe, they.
They kind of like how the show flows.
Right now it's.
It's pretty much, you know, ahalf an hour to 35 minutes long.
And when we add the extras,it's about a 45 minute show.
Oh, wow.

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So I guess I never really also.
Had to maintain costumes.
Yeah.
You know, but boy, would Ilove to see that come back.
Yeah.
For me, still fighting for it.
Well, keep that fight going, Kevin.
Also, I'll be the first onthe, on the petition.
I, you know, the plant was myfavorite part.
Oh, gosh.
Like, you know, the, the, theviolent volunteers, that's whatever.

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But the plant coming out, that was.
I gotta tell you, that was oneof my favorite roles to play.
I got to do the show.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
And I would be in the audience.
I'd be like, scooting acrossthe aisle, you know, trying to find
my seat.
And then she'd pick me.
Sure.
But I had popcorn in my hand, Right.

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So I turn around, like I was surprised.
And the popcorn would go everywhere.
Or I had it.
I had an ice cream in my handand I would bring that down on the
stage.
And then when she had mebalance on one leg, I would balance.
You can find this on YouTube,I'm pretty sure.
And then I would lose mybalance and I'd throw the ice cream

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up as high as I could.
It would splatter.
I'd pick it up and I take a bite.
Oh, that was a fun, fun role,I'm sure.
So back in the day, did youget opportunities to play different
roles?
Obviously, I.
I absolutely did.
Within the little bit.

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I have been every characterwithin the show except for the giant
and Marion.
Okay.
And now Robert's been.
Has he been with you since the beginning?
He was six months after me.
It's very funny because on theDisney plus special, I don't know
if you saw it.

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I'm sure you saw it.
Yeah.
All right, so behind thescenes, listen.
I am a normal person, I promise.
I know it's coming across as alittle bit creepy, but I am normal.
So on that, they mixed it upof who Robert was and who I was,
and they said that he was aDay 1 cast member.
And I'm sitting there watchingit in the green room with him, and

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that announcement came on andI went, the hell you are.
And that's been the runningjoke ever since.
He's just a Day One castmember, but actually he and Michelle
Waitman came in together sixmonths after I did.
Okay.
And Michelle's still with the show.
So is.
Michelle is still with theshow, and she's still doing Marion.

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That's.
That's crazy.
He's amazing.
Yeah.
Is that where the joke.
Because I catch it every oncein a while where Justin says, I just
want to make mom and dadproud, is that when both of you are
on in the show together atsome point that.
That's when that line comes out.
Well, I'm.
I'm.
I'm not his dad, but he callsme dad and I call him son in the

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show, so I call him son when Isee him.
Who's your favorite current Indian?
Why is it Justin?
And why is it.
Or why is it Justin?
Because really, that's allwe're here to talk about is just.
No, I'm.
I'm only kidding.
Justin's been so nice to me.
Every time I'm there, youknow, he says hi and all that.

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I think he initiated the theWanted poster in the green room.
But no, Justin is amazing.
All of the indies right nowthat are lucky enough to portray
this character, they are all fantastic.
If I had to pick one, Do Ihave to pick one?

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You don't have to pick one.
Okay.
I mean, I can.
Oh, oh, then if.
If you can, then let's do it.
It's Aaron Zolden.
Aaron.
Okay.
He's a good one.
He is fantastic.
He.
He's also.
We're.
We.
We train now together.
Okay.
We're like co trainers whenthe indies come in.

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And he just has the samemindset that I do and that I did
when I did the role.
There's no one who has morepride about the role right now that's
doing it than him.
He's so cool.
Now, can you take me through?
Because sometimes I'll see anindy perform scene one, the temple

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scene, and then a differentindie in scene two, which is the.
The marketplace.
And then sometimes that sameindie in scene three, the plane,
sometimes they'll go back tothe first one.
What's kind of happening there?
And how is.
Why does that happen?
That's a great question.
So you more than likely werelucky enough to see a new indie going
into show because that's howwe get them in.

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We start with.
When we start our training, westart with scene one.
Okay.
Because it's the most difficult.
You got to remember, there'sno other Actor on stage to help you.
You know, you are just.
It's just you and 2,000 peopleout in the audience watching you.

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And I don't want the audienceto be bored.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So they have to tell a storyand that story has to unfold as you're
going through the stunts.
So we'll start with scene oneand then when they are signed off
in scene one, they'll be ableto do it in show.
And then our full time indiewill come in for scenes two and three.

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And then as they progress andthey learn more, then we jump to
scene three because that's thenext scene that they would learn
that's not as involved.
You have one actor that you'rereally, well, two.
But it's just not as involved.
Sure.
Scene two is of course, youknow, the most involved.
So that's the last scene thatwe train them on and that's the last

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scene they go in, go into.
So cool.
Yeah.
How long does it take to learnthe whip routine?
So it varies with each indiethat, that we train.
I've had guys who come in andpick it up and they may have never
picked it up in their life,but they're just very aware of their

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body and, and how it moves and.
Or they play baseball.
Playing baseball, believe itor not.
Hat is a great training groundto use a whip.
Okay.
But they have nine weeks tolearn the show.
That's it.
Wow.
And that's a lot.
It's a lot of information.

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The note sessions are long andlengthy and then as they get better,
they get shorter and shorter.
But yeah, only nine weeks tolearn the show.
Now is that overnight rehearsals?
Is that overnight?
When does that process happen?
It happens after our daily ops.
So our last show will end.

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They'll more than likely thetext will do a burn off getting rid
of all of the gases that areon stage.
And then we can start soonafter that and we'll go to 9, 30,
10 o'clock.
Oh, wow.
It's not a lot of time.
You know, that's just.
It's less than four hours thatthey get.

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Wow.
And it.
There's the other.
The other side of the coin isthat if I'm only training one indie,
that's not really as good astraining two.
Three is almost too much, butit still works.
But two is great because onecan watch the other one.
Sure.
They can get in on the notesessions together, learn from their

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notes, you know, what we'relooking for and what we want.
And then they also get A break.
So they get to sit and restand then.
Okay, come on.
You're back on now.
Do you still perform thestunts when you're training?
I do.
How much fun is that?
That's.
Oh, that's.
It's my.
It's my joy.
You have no idea.

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Unfortunately, they.
They made me stop doing rope drop.
I don't know why.
There's no reason for itbecause I can still do it.
But I was nicknamed the goldenretriever of the rope drop because
when I got up there to do therope drop, it's just.
It's so exciting.

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It's the best ride in the park.
Sure.
I bet.
Really is.
Do you know what it is?
I've heard that it's a similartechnology as something on thunder
mountain.
Yeah.
Space mountain.
Space mountain.
Okay.
So it is a space mountainbraking system.
That's crazy.
And we are the car, you know.

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Right, right.
That's so cool.
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
Dane, I'm hogging all the questions.
You have any questions forKevin Persard, the original Indiana
Jones stunt performer atHollywood studios?
I do.
I want to go back to the audition.
What was the audition like?
Like, what did they have you have.
You do?
Exactly.

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Because if you didn't know you were.
Auditioning for indie, I hadno idea.
And there, like I said, therewas an action character named Jack.
And we were brought into the room.
Some of us had more than onePeople brought people that were brought
into the room.
And some of us went in just by ourselves.

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I was lucky enough to go in by myself.
Glenn Randall was there.
Barbara Epstein was there.
She was our acting coach.
I didn't know who she was, butI found out later she's.
Oh, she's.
And she's fantastic.
She makes you see thingsdifferently that you would not think

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about, you know, as an actor.
And I really appreciated that.
And then I did the script thatthey gave me.
I read it, and I left.
They weren't looking at how Ithrew a punch or anything.
I will say that they did goone step further with me because

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they had me not do a dance,but move right.
And back in the day, I couldmove well.
I'm not a dancer.
I would never classify myselfas Dan as a dancer.
I did.
Was that you did do musicals.
Like, didn't you do Tarzan rocks?

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I absolutely did, yes.
And earlier, I.
I mean, I've taken dance classes.
I took a lot.
I.
I mean, I married a ballerina,so I didn't have a choice, but they
had me move at the audition.
And I think that's what got methe job, because Glenn liked the

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way that I moved.
I didn't move like a dancer.
I moved like a man.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah, yeah.
I was just curious what, like,you know, what they told you if they
didn't.
If, you know, obviously theydidn't say it was for the.
The Stunt Spectacular.
Tell us a little bit aboutwhat opening day was like for the

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show.
Opening day was so excitingbecause Michael Eisner was there,
George Lucas was there as well.
The audience was just sopumped up and so was the cast because
we had, you know, we hadworked for nine months and our script

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changed.
I can't tell you how manytimes we went through daily changes.
We had a script book that waslike about this thick, and if you
had different color pages, youhad a brand new script and you had
to learn those lines beforeyou went out on stage.
Which were you hired beforeJerry came in to redesign the whole

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show?
Jerry who?
Jerry Reese.
I think you're making up.
Is this a Remy fact?
No, no, no.
They.
They had like an original.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
This is not known.
But they had.
Apparently they had a.
Like an original show and thenthey completely overhauled it to

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be something completely different.
Yes, that did happen.
So, yes, I was hired, I guess,before this person.
I don't know who that person is.
I don't recognize that name.
But I was just wondering.
But we had a pre show beforethe actual show started.

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There were these twocharacters named Bubbles and Bernie,
and they were the.
Like the crowd warm up.
Right.
And they had a good 10 to 12minute shtick that went on before
the actual casting, you know,bringing down the extras and all
of that.
So that was crazy.

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That was a really long show.
Yes, I remind.
I vaguely remember that.
I feel like.
Yeah, that's.
Well, when we first openedtoo, you know, the park had opened,
but our show was not quitefinished yet.
But Disney thought it would begreat if they opened up the audience

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and allowed the guests to goin and watch the rehearsals.
So, yeah, we were in agoldfish bowl for the longest time.
There's two goldfish bowls inat one point.
That is my new answer for ifyou could invent time travel, what
would you go back and do?

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That's one of my things.
I would go back and watch therehearsals of Indiana Jones before
it opened up.
Yeah, they were fun.
They really were.
Any.
Any blooper moments from ashow that you can remember.
And what's your favorite?
There's so many bloopermoments that Happen.

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The disaster that everyonetalks about in the 90s where the
boulder came off the track.
Oh, that's the only time it'son YouTube.
You'll find it.
And it is listed as thatdisaster at Walt Disney Studios.
Yeah, it's actually part of my tour.

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When I give a tour of thestage, it's one of the things I'll
pull up on YouTube and show them.
Now, the thing about it is theindie that is in that video, he was
fantastic.
He was a great Indy.
And unfortunately, he did get injured.
He had a lot of nerve damagein his legs, and he never really

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came back to our show, whichwas sad.
Now he went on and he's got agreat career right now, but it was
kind of sad what happened tohim because we all loved him so much
at our stage.
But what was my point?
I didn't know that he got injured.
Yeah, that's.

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Oh, the blooper.
The blooper moment.
Yeah.
Your favorite blooper.
There is a.
And I won't mention the Indy'sname, but there was an indie who
was being checked off forscene one.
Okay.
Actually, he had been checkedoff, and he was performing his first
scene one in front of anaudience, and the show director and

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myself were sitting in theaudience, and he was starting to
go through the punjis, and hejust misstepped.
That's all he did.
And when he did, the punjiwent up his back, so it went under
his jacket.
Right.
And he's kind of on there.

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Okay.
Now, he could have gotten off,but what he did, he took the satchel,
which is under the jacket, andhe went like that, essentially locking
himself onto the punji.
So that's known as the dick onthe stick.

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How did he get.
Did they have to lower the punji?
Yeah.
Cut, cut, cut, cut.
Start again.
I will say the indiesnowadays, especially when that boulder
doesn't come out and they call cut.
And you usually give it to two chances.
Yep, we'll give it two chances.
They are incredible at keepingthat crowd going.

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They really are.
Yes, they're breaking character.
But I don't.
They do it so well.
I don't even care.
It doesn't matter.
I know.
It doesn't matter.
They do a great job.
We have one that we call thePandering King, because he just.
He.
He panders the audience so well.
And he really does.
He does a great job.
And then later he'llincorporate that because he'll.

(45:21):
He'll get.
You know, he'll raise his armslike that and Try to get the audience
to applaud.
And they'll applaud.
And then he incorporates thatlater in his interview and he'll
finish the interview and golike this.
And they'll dream bloodymurder for it.
Would that be Ryan?
Yes.
I've seen.
I've seen him do it.
This is okay, Kevin.
I assure you, I'm normal.
I've got a wife, three kids.

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The fact that I know this much.
I'm a normal person.
I promise.
Promise.
It's all right.
I promise it's all right.
Thank you.
It's so great to.
I.
I'm telling you, I.
I love the fans.
There is nothing better.
The fans are why we are still there.
So please don't ever apologize.
All right, listen, I had ascary moment when, when the announcement

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of Monsters, Inc.
Coming to Hollywood Studiosand I was scared for a moment because
in that same announcement is,oh, Animal Kingdom's getting into
Indiana Jones Ride.
I was like, I know, I know.
We.
We all held our breath too.
Yeah.
But thankfully we're justgetting rid of the Muppets.
They don't matter.
Keep sad.

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It's very sad.
I don't know.
I don't.
Listen, I'm excited aboutMonsters, Inc.
I'm not excited about the placement.
I think that there were better places.
Yeah.
Animation Courtyard, but.
Exactly.
Let's not get political here.
But.
Yes.
Dane.
Dane has a love for animation.
The animation.
He did a whole.
He.
A YouTube video.

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The building.
Yeah.
He did a full documentary.
Interviewed some of the.
The animators and some of theoriginal imagineers from.
From that building.
So he's got a love for that.
I know.
I do love that.
Kevin?
What?
Before we let you go.
What.
What do you want the audienceto know about you and your story

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and just, you know, all of the indies.
What's.
What's kind of the.
The I don't know.
That's a vague question.
I don't know.
Kevin, what's your schedulelike for tomorrow?
What do you do?
I'm working.
Any.
What are the.

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What's the future for Kevin?
That's a great question.
Especially right now because I'm.
Like I said, I'm at 37 yearswith Walt Disney World.
Loved every minute of it.
I'm trying to make it to 40.
I'd like to be that 40 yearcast member.
That would be fun.

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I don't know if that's goingto happen or not, but it might.
My wife and I are starting toplan our retirement.
You know, I'm 63 years old and.
Yeah.
And I love being 63 years old,but I want to enjoy my kids, and

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I want to enjoy my wife.
I want to travel with her.
So I don't know.
I really don't know what thefuture for Kevin holds yet.
Right now, I am still happywhere I am.
I still laugh every day.
I don't go in.
You know, I gotta do five shows.
I feel blessed and lucky to beable to do five shows.

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So, yeah, I'm good.
I'm good where I am.
That's incredible.
All right, so I take thetraining away from me.
That might be a different story.
Okay, so as long as you keepthe training that prolongs your career
there.
Okay, Gotcha.
Absolutely.

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I need to ask you about theDial of Destiny premiere.
What was.
How did I forget this?
My bad.
It's the pinnacle.
Well, you didn't know aboutthe interview, so you got it.
That's true.
It was the absolute pinnacleof my career at Disney.
I was told at the end of ashow by Rayvon, who is the Disney

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ambassador, who came on, andthere were cameras that came on behind
him so they could film thewhole thing.
And he surprised me and toldme that I was going to Hollywood
to be on the red carpet tomeet Harrison Ford and watch the
movie, and I could bring my wife.

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What?
Are you kidding me?
Well, my wife didn't want togo because she knew the whole thing
was going to be filmed anddocumented, and she just didn't.
She's not into all of that.
So it was my wife thatsuggested, why don't you take Michelle,
who was my Marian of 30 years?

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Right.
I said, that's a great idea.
I'll ask.
Well, I didn't have to even ask.
Michelle was already saying,yes, I'll go.
And that was.
It was just a wonderful tripout to Hollywood.
They sent us out there, wherewe had a day before the actual premiere
and got to kind of toodlearound Hollywood a little bit.

(50:26):
That was fun.
I ate a lot.
A lot of good food in Hollywood.
Yeah.
And then the night of theactual premiere, man, they treated
us from start to finish likewe were Hollywood stars, truly.

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They picked us up in limousines.
They dropped us off in limousines.
They.
The night of the premiere, they.
They met us down in the lobby.
They escorted us to where wewere going.
We got our badges.
We got the microphones.
Why do we need microphones?
I don't know, but we neededmicrophones because, look, we found

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out later we were doing an interview.
And that was fun because beinginterviewed by the Hollywood reporter
I had no idea what they weregoing to ask.
And I was pulling answers outof my butt.
And I just.
I did.
I didn't want to sound like astupid stuntman, you know, I.

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And not that there are stupid stuntmen.
I'm just saying I wanted tohopefully answer the questions as
eloquently as I possibly could.
And I think I did.
Everybody said it was.
It was good, so I felt goodabout that.
But then it came time, and wewere escorted in front of the wall

(51:55):
where all the pictures happen, right?
And there's like 300photographers in front of you, and
they're all, you know, callingyour name.
And I'm trying to get pictures.
Okay, great.
It was so exciting.
And then we were escorted away.
We were like, in a holding area.
And this beautiful blondewoman comes over to me and goes,
kevin Broussard.

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And I went, yes.
And she grabs my hand, takesme over.
She goes, kevin Broussard,Harrison Ford.
And I started to introducemyself, and he.
And he stopped me and said,oh, I know who you are.
You're the two stunt peoplefrom Florida.

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You're Kevin and you're Michelle.
And my mouth did exactly whatyours is.
It dropped.
Just.
Wow.
And he was so kind, sogracious with his time.
We, you know, we.
We had this interaction with him.
We've probably lasted aboutthree minutes.
And we thought, oh, my gosh,you know, this is a busy man.

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We need to let him go.
And we were thanking him, andhe goes, well, don't you guys want
a picture or something?
And we're like, that would be great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was quite.
Quite the event.
And then we got to go watchthe movie.
And I don't know if you knowthis or not, but before the movie

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started, they brought all thestars up onto the stage and the director
as well.
And then I believe it wasGeorge who announced what was going
to happen next.
And the screen was absolutely enormous.

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I've never seen a bigger film screen.
It was just enormous.
And he was talking about howthe film all came together, but of
course, it would be nothing ifJohn Williams had not come out of
retirement and, you know, donethe score.
And then he goes, ladies andgentlemen, John Williams.

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And this huge screen raises upand there's a full orchestra behind.
I mean, it.
It was just surreal.
It was unbelievable.
That's so.
And then he wanted to explainhow the theme came to be, the new

(54:24):
theme.
You know, it was just.
It was amazing.
Just amazing, right?
Yeah.
That's incredible.
Dane, do you know thedifference between Kevin and Harrison
Ford, I think about $200 million.
Oh, okay.
I thought you meant like the role.
I was like, no, it's a linefrom the show.

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No, it's a joke from the show.
Has Harrison Ford ever seenthe stunt show?
Yes, he has.
He's been there and he got tosee a wonderful.
Indy performed the show.
Jeff Robinson.
Who?
Jeff Robinson.
Really had Harrison Ford's run down.

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He had it pat, man.
There was nobody that couldmimic his run like Jeff Robinson.
That's did an amazing job.
And I know Harrison loved theshow when he was done.
Very good.
Yeah.
Dane, any.
Any last questions for Kevin?

(55:28):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to findthe phrasing for this once.
But you.
You.
Yeah.
You mentioned earlier about your.
Your.
Your wife and.
And children.
I'm assuming your children arenow grown up.
Do they know dad is IndianaJones or do they know dad is Kevin?
Both.
They know me as dad and theyknow me as Indy.

(55:52):
It's.
It's been great having thisrole and having the kids and bringing
them to see the show.
My son was just an IndianaJones aficionado.
He knew everything aboutIndiana Jones when he was growing
up.
My daughters were the same.
They knew everything.

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They loved it.
Now, one of the.
My fondest memories of theIndiana Jones show and Scott, you'll
be able to see this.
Dane, have you seen the show?
Yes.
Okay, good answer.
Not as many times as Scott,but yes, I have.
I don't think anybody's seen it.
I don't ever seen.

(56:33):
I probably have.
I'm sure.
I'm sure I have seen you in it.
I hope.
I hope you have.
So I was.
I came out of rope drop.
I hit the ground.
I had lit my torch and mydaughter and my wife are in the front
row in the VIP section and mydaughter's on the bar like this,

(56:54):
right?
Just so excited.
And I go down to blow the dustand I hear, daddy, Daddy.
Well, now my shoulders areshrugging because I'm laughing.

(57:16):
The audience knows that's my daughter.
They're laughing.
It was the best moment.
It was just so great.
She just wanted me to say hi,so I did.
I just.
I shot her a look and I wavedand I.
That's adorable.
My business finish the show.

(57:38):
I love that.
But it was such a great moment.
Yeah.
Kevin, hang on one second.
Here.
I'll ask a question.
Do you think you ever playindie again?
You think you do it one last time?
I would love to.
I absolutely would love to.
Before I leave.
That's my plan.

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So I'll let You know, you'rein remarkable shape.
I mean you, you, you easilycould, it looks like.
I.
Thank you.
I appreciate.
No, I work very hard.
I'm at the gym seven days aweek because I just, I think if you
stop, you start to break and Idon't want to start to break.

(58:23):
Yeah, sorry.
I had to, I had to grab my 12year old real quick.
I said, sweetheart, come here.
She goes, that's the directorfrom Indiana Jones.
My.
I have.
My daughter is just as big ofa fan.
She doesn't see the show asmuch as I do because she's got that
thing called school.
But let's tell her I said hi.

(58:45):
I will, I will.
I asked her, I said, do youwant to say hi?
She's in middle school soshe's too cool for that, you know.
Oh, it's a shame.
Well, Kevin, thank you.
This was a huge thrill.
Dane, thank you for thebirthday gift.
This was happy birthday by the way.
Thank you so much.
This was incredible.
I like I said I heard aninterview with you on a different
podcast.
I don't remember what it was.

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It was just.
I was on a YouTube wormholejust finding different old indies
and their videos, posting.
There's one who goes throughscene by scene on how all the effects
work and I'm like, oh, the magic.
Oh yeah.
That guy was never supposed todo that.
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.
But I heard your interview andit was incredible.
And, and you're just so humbleand you appreciate the role and you

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appreciate the role that youplay in it and I just appreciate
your time so much.
Thank you, Scott.
Thank you so much.
Well, this has been a pleasure.
I've had a.
It's been a blast.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Kevin.
Yeah, anytime.
Thank you so much, Kevin.
Thank you, Dane.
All right.
All right, Bye bye.
That was incredible.

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Happy birthday, my man.
Thank you so much.
Oh my God.
I didn't, I mean I could havetalked to him for another hour.
Yeah, but he gave us, he gaveus 40 minutes.
I didn't want to, you know, Ididn't want to bogart his entire.
If it wasn't 8:20 at night, wecould have gone even longer with
him.
I feel like he's.
Yeah, he's such a great guy.
I reached out to him.

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Yeah.
How did you do that?
So, okay, so it was very hardto keep it from you.
So if anyone doesn't know.
Scott didn't know anythingabout this.
We did not.
Me and Ryan, we did not tellhim about this.
I Had this idea a few months,months ago.
I was like, what if we didlike an Indiana Jones epic stunt
spectacular, like, episode andwe got Justin because all of us follow

(01:00:35):
each other on Instagram and wegot the original indie and then that.
I was like.
And then from there I waslike, scott's birthday is coming
up.
I just get the original indieform for his birthday and play it
off as a birthday guest to getlike, like birthday, birthday present
interview.
So I reached out to him, Ijust emailed him and he was just
like, yeah, where and when?

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Whenever, whatever you need.
Incredible.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Thank you.
So that was such a big thrill.
You know, I've.
I've wanted to have.
I've.
I've thought about reachingout to him to come on parents night
out, but.
But it doesn't make any sense.
That's not the nature of our show.
And, you know, the nature ofour show.
It doesn't necessarily.

(01:01:18):
Oh, we tried, we tried to dointerviews, but it just doesn't work.
And I'm all about contentfirst, but in this format, it's totally
cool.
And I, I appreciate creationthat that falls in the realm of so
many different things.
So, yeah, on this show we'vebeen able to get musicians and actors
and stuff like that on.
Yeah.

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So, yeah.
Yeah.
That was.
That was incredible.
That was incredible.
I'm sorry.
I asked all the questions.
Those were better questionsthan the one I had.
So.
Well, I know.
Were so basic.
I mean, the, the problem is I.
You know, I know so much aboutthat show and the people that are
in it.
I know.

(01:01:59):
But it comes across realcreepy, Dane, when I'm like, okay,
well, your daughter Sally suewas born on December day.
Like, that's a problem, Dane.
But no, seriously, thank you.
That was.
That was incredible.
That is.
That is a highlight moment for me.
And if you don't mind, what Iwould like to do is I'd like to.

(01:02:23):
After we release it ascreators united, I'd love to release
it as a parents night outepisode as well.
If there's ever.
If there's ever, you know, aweek where we have to take off because
that was.
That was so much fun.
And please send me the video.
That was cool.
I'll be watching it tonightwhen I.
Never mind.
I'm just kidding.

(01:02:43):
I'm just kidding.
I don't want to say that, man.
I'm just kidding.
No, I'm just kidding.
That was.
That was incredible.
Thank you.
I.
I can't say thank you enough.
I'm.
My, my, My cheeks are hurtingfrom from smiling.
That was so cool.
Absolutely.
Well, let's end the lesson.
Lesson.

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End this episode off right here.
I got a question for you, my man.
Since Ryan is here, I'll dothe question.
Okay.
Top three Indiana Jones movies.
Top three.
Does it have to be in order?
It could if that's your list.
Okay.
No, I, I've got it in order.
Temple number one.

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Temple of Doom's my number one.
Last Crusades number two,Raiders number three.
That I would put Dial ofDestiny is four.
And the.
Crystal Skull.
Yeah, that one as a deep five.
I would maybe even put it asnumber six.

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I would probably put thatlower than the young Indiana Jones
series that came out, whichwas God awful.
Dude, I'm gonna disagree with you.
I'm putting Dial at Destiny atfive, and then I'm putting Crystal
Skull at four.
If we're doing that because Ilike Dial Destiny.
I, I like, I like Kingdom ofthe Crystal Skull.
Before they start on theactual getting to the crystal skull

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stuff.
Like, the half of that movieis, I think, spectacular.
I think.
I don't.
You know what?
You know what, Dean?
I don't disagree with you.
I think I, I, I.
You may be right.
Like, the fridge thing issilly, but, like, this is the same
movie.
Like Raiders ending.
Like, do you know why the, doyou know why the fridge thing is
in there?

(01:04:29):
Yes, and I.
Forget it.
Tell me.
It's, it's homage to theoriginal Back to the future concept.
Really?
The original back to thefuture concept?
Robert Zemeckis was going touse a refrigerator and a nuclear.
Yeah, that was going to be thetime travel.
Huh?
Oh, that wasn't the reason.

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I thought then, so.
You know, Dean, you've, you've so.
And Ryan had said this oncethat if you think about all of the
Indiana Jones movies, they allhave a supernatural type ending to
it.
And I never really appreciatedthat until he said that.

(01:05:12):
And so it does make CrystalSkull a little bit better because
I just.
For me, it was just so far outthere with the aliens.
The only thing, the only thingthat I, the only reason I don't like
the alien stuff being in themovie is because.
Okay, so first the alien thingthat was supposed to be in Raiders,
right?
That was like an originalconcept by George.
He wanted to make an IndianaJones like, Alien movie.

(01:05:35):
Like, that was a very earlyconcept, I think.
At least it never becomes afranchise if he does that.
Yeah, that is true.
I don't, I think that's why heactually didn't do it.
But I'm pretty Sure.
That was a concept for a verylong time that he had.
So it's not out of theordinary for an Indiana Jones to
have aliens in it.
There were, There werebasically aliens in it at the end

(01:05:56):
of Raiders with the demons andstuff that.
Or whatever it is, you know.
Yeah.
But the thing that makes themovie, it's the way that the movie
is written.
It's the way that the aliensare written into the story and it's
the way that the aliens look.
Yeah.
I feel like.
I feel like it would have beena lot better movie is if the.

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And.
And this might.
It probably makes no sense.
It would probably make itworse actually, now that I'm thinking
about it, if they actuallynever actually saw the alien and
then like the bones never camealive again.
Because that's where it loses me.
Yeah, agreed.
Now that is too much.
You're not wrong.
It was a really good movieuntil that moment, and that moment
ruins it.
You're right.

(01:06:36):
You're right.
And also it.
I think I struggled seeingHarrison Ford as.
Andy's so old.
Yes.
And it was like, performancesaside because in Crystal Skull the
performances are not very good.
Yeah.
In my opinion.
To me it was so odd becauseyou have these three iconic movies,
you know, Raiders, Temple ofDoom and.

(01:06:57):
And Last Crusade and thenwhat, 20, 30 years later they do
Crystal Skull and.
And to me it was almost likehe had time traveled because you're
used to seeing him in the 30sand 40s and now he's in like the
50s and 60s.
It just didn't make any sense.
I struggled with that.

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Whereas Dial of Destiny.
I knew he was old, I knew whatto expect and technology's gotten
a lot better.
The, the making him youngergave me that easy transition.
So I think like the.
I think the filmmaking mayhave been better.
I don't know.

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But come to think of it, DialDestiny is a very slow moving movie
until the end.
So.
I get it.
I get it.
I just.
I did like Dial Destiny better.
Yeah.
And then.
And then also for me it's DialDestiny number five, Crystal Skull.
Four, three is Temple of Doomand then two is Last Crusade and

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then number one, Raiders.
I don't know why people likeTemple so much.
It is.
I don't like it.
I'll tell you, for me, it wasthe first one I ever saw.
Okay.
There you go.
That's the reason for a lot ofother people.
But I just don't like.
I, I don't know why I've never gotten.
Yeah, I think that was the first.
Of how weak the supportingcharacter is.

(01:08:22):
Like the supporting femaleSpielberg's wife.
Like, her.
Don't like the character.
I.
I don't like the character.
Well, I get it.
But I think, you know, I thinkthe problem.
Well, I think.
Here's the problem.
Why did they go away fromKaren Allen in the.
In the next two movies?

(01:08:43):
I.
I don't know.
I think it makes a strongerstory if you keep Karen Allen instead
of these just differentdamsels, you know, I don't know.
You know, I had a problem with that.
But again, I saw Temple ofDoom first, so to me, it was always.
It was always her.

(01:09:04):
And I was like, oh, who's this Marion?
It doesn't make any sense.
I love Short Round.
I love the, you know, thescene when they're.
I like Short Round.
The scene when they're atdinner was one of the neatest scenes
to me with all the differentfoods and, you know, and I loved
my mom's reaction to the bugseed, you know, it was just so cool.

(01:09:26):
And then I saw Raiders much later.
I actually saw Raiders afterseeing the Indiana Jones stunt show,
so I think.
I might have, too.
I.
I most definitely did.
Now.
Yeah, think about it.
Because I saw that.
The stall, the sun show, and Iwas like 3 and 5.
And I think some of the scenesin the stunt show are better than

(01:09:48):
the ones in the movie, you know?
No, I can't agree with you there.
The marketplace scene.
I.
The marketplace scene is just.
It's longer in the stunt showand it's funnier.
I don't know.
It's stopwatch when you're watching.
No, no, no.
But.
And the.
I don't love Raiders as a movie.

(01:10:09):
I love the scenes that theyduplicate in the movie or in the
sun show.
But.
But yeah, it's my leastfavorite of the original three.
Yeah.
Last Crusade is such anunderrated movie.
It is.
It is true.
Sade and I could put LastCrusade over Temple of Doom because

(01:10:30):
it's so funny.
Sean Connery was so funny.
And they brought back somenostalgia, you know, bringing.
Bringing John Reese Daviesback and then Marcus Brody, who.
You know, neither of those twoguys were in the second movie.
Like, the second movie isalmost like a standalone movie.
Second.

(01:10:51):
If you think about it,technically, isn't that a prequel?
Didn't that take place Beef,Isn't that supposed to take place
before Raiders or Temple of Doom?
Yeah, it could.
I think you're right, becauseI think the timeline order is.

(01:11:13):
I think the timeline order is.
But now that's the release date.
Yes.
Temple of Doom takes place in 35.
And then Raiders takes placein 36.
Okay, so then that would make sense.
I've heard the new IndianaJones game is really good, too.
I haven't played it at all,but I've heard it's really good.

(01:11:34):
Yeah.
And then Curl Skull takesplace in 57.
Jeez.
And then 1969 for the dial Destiny.
I gotta tell you, I'm not like.
I.
I love the Indiana Jones stunt show.
The Indiana Jones movies arenot, like.
They're not my go to.
If I'm gonna watch justclassic films that, you know, I grew

(01:11:55):
up on, I'm going Jurassic Park.
I'm going back to the future.
I'm going.
I'll go back Star Wars.
I wouldn't put Indiana Jonesis, like, my favorite franchise.
It's just the stunt show.
I would agree with you.
I would agree with you.
I would agree with you on that.
And again, this in, you know,the stunt show, it's.
It's why I love Old School Epcot.

(01:12:16):
It's nostalgia.
It's my childhood.
What's that?
You said?
You said Epcot.
No, no, I know why I love theIndiana Jones stunt show so much
now is.
It's just why.
It's the same reason why Ilove Old School Epcot, because it's
my childhood.
It's nostalgia.
You know, like Horizons, Worldof Motion Universe, the original

(01:12:38):
universe of Energy, theoriginal imagination.
All of those things were my.
My childhood.
My first experiences at theDisney parks were these attractions.
So, you know, even MagicKingdom, which I can't stand now
just because I can't drinkthere, and it's so busy and it's
hot.
But, you know, Indiana JonesStunt show represents the last thing

(01:13:02):
that's still there from thefirst time I visited that, and maybe
Star Tours, but Star Toursisn't even the same as it used to
be.
You know, there's nothing that.
There's nothing left atHollywood Studios or even.
I can't think of an originalride that hasn't been changed.
I mean, Spaceship Earth, youknow, most.
That hasn't been changed at all.

(01:13:24):
Well, Spaceship Earth has been changed.
Yeah.
And.
And.
But it's still.
It's.
It's still the original ridewith some.
With some modifications.
I think that's why I love thatride so much.
The land, living with the land.
That's technically been changed.
Like the song and stuff like that.
Yeah.
But it's.
It's still the same ride, so Ithink that's why I like that one.

(01:13:45):
Imagination is.
I mean, it's awful.
It's there.
I don't think it's off.
I don't think it's awful.
And the song still exists.
Like the song and Figment arethe only two things that exist from
the original ride.
There's some, there's some.
Really.
The only attraction that hasnot been changed at all is Small
World.

(01:14:05):
Other than that, like evenPeter Pan's flight, that's been updated
a little bit.
Like the different projections.
Yep.
Pirates.
They added Johnny Depp.
The Haunted Mansion.
You added the Hatbox Ghost.
And updated technology.
Yeah, no, I mean, you're right.
Thunder Mountain.
I mean you can look in stuffin Animal Kingdom, you can expedition
Everest.

(01:14:26):
But that's.
Yeah, but, but again, that'snot from my childhood.
That's, you know, 1990 or1998, I think.
You know, that's.
I was 18 years old.
That's not my child.
And I didn't go to AnimalKingdom until I was, you know, much
older.
But Indiana Jones stunt epicStunt spectacular.
That is my childhood.
That the very first time Iwent to that park I saw the Indiana

(01:14:49):
Jones stunt show.
And so it's just, you know,everybody thinks I'm silly for, for
why I love that show so much.
Well, and the thing is, youknow, we joke about Justin and all
that.
It's.
It's the guy who plays thedream job that I never, you know,
that I never got to.
And.

(01:15:09):
And he's someone who talks to me.
So it's about him and it'smore about like, hey, I get to interact
with this person every once ina while and, and you know, I know
it's.
I'm 45 years old.
I need to grow up a little bit.
But anyway, Dane, this was asuper fun episode.
Absolutely.
Thank you.

(01:15:29):
Incredible.
Happy, happy birthday.
Scott, you want to take us out?
Yeah.
Dane, what do you.
What you got anything?
Coming up on Big Beautiful Diz.
I do I.
Do you want a little topic reveal?
Sure, let's hear it.
So I'm doing a video onsomething that's actually you, you
know very well doing a littlevideo on a pal Mickey.

(01:15:53):
Oh, wow.
So yeah, yeah.
On email exchanges right nowfor that video actually because I'm
getting information about it.
So yeah, doing a video aboutPal Mickey.
That's gonna be loved.
Palmiki next week.
Next Christmas week.
It's coming out on Saturday.
So that I love.

(01:16:14):
God, I love pal Mickey.
The only problem is youcouldn't, you couldn't hear him.
Right.
You know, because it gets soloud in the park.
You can't you gotta hold himup to ear.
Yeah, yeah.
And you never knew when he wasgonna talk.
But originally I shouldn't say that.
Never mind.
I was gonna.
This video is gonna come outbefore that video.
Never mind.
I'll tell you.
All fair.

(01:16:34):
Really cool concept.
Really cool concept.
Just very expensive at thetime, you know, I think it was 50
bucks, which.
60.
50 bucks.
60.
Okay, so 60 bucks back in theearly 2000s, and you can get an interactive
one at Universal right now for 50.
Yeah, you know, and.

(01:16:57):
Well, I mean, it is, but like, 60.
60.
Yeah, 60 bucks back then.
I say back then, like, it waslike, you know, anyway, so.
But right now, if you were tobuy that.
If you were to buy that rightnow, it probably about 120 bucks
in the parks.
Yeah.
Easily 100 bucks.
But cool piece of technologywas ahead of its time.

(01:17:21):
Very poorly executed, in myopinion, because it didn't.
It didn't, didn't.
It didn't last.
It didn't survive.
Yeah, 60 bucks in 2003 is now $102.
There you go.
Yeah.
How about you?
What's.
What's.
What's coming up on Parents toNight Out.
Well, we haven't reallydiscussed what is next on.

(01:17:48):
On Paris Night Out.
We were talking about some things.
We're talking about ways tokind of enhance the show a little
bit and just get better.
But it's always a fun time.
We're still trying to, Ithink, find our new identity and
how that works within the showwithout losing what we've been.

(01:18:13):
So check that out.
Yeah, check it out.
While we're still trying tofind ourselves, we're like an awkward
team.
There you go.
There you go.
All right, Well, I guesswithout further ado, as Chris job
would say, 15 times anepisode, let's end this thing.

(01:18:37):
On behalf of Dane and RyanOmsky, Scott, thank you so much for
watching, and we'll see younext time.
Listening.
Love you, Scott.
Love you, Dean.
See you later.
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And the bold in the world of.
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