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February 15, 2024 40 mins

Trying to decide if it is worth the extra cost to stay at the Disneyland Hotel, Pixar Place, or The Grand Californian Hotel and Spa?  Celina and Robyn share the benefits of staying on versus off property at the Disneyland Resort.  Celina will share the reasons why she loves staying at Disney-owned properties, and Robyn will share why she usually opts for off-property hotels. 

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Park Magic podcast, your place for
insider tips for your nextDisneyland adventure.
Whether you're a first-timer orfirst-time in a while visitor,
we're here to unwrap the secretsto creating and simplifying
your dream Disneyland vacation.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're back giving you more tips for planning your
next Disneyland adventure, and Ihave repeat guests Selena back
on because we have so much funtogether, we love recording and
we both have this big love inDisney and we agree on most
things.
There's a lot of things that wesee completely at 100% eye to
eye on, and there's some thingsthat we have slight
disagreements on, and todaywe're talking about one of the

(00:52):
things that Selena and Islightly disagree on, even
though both of us have stayed atpretty much all of the
Disneyland hotels and many ofthe hotels that are within
walking distance and evendriving distance.
We each have differentpreferences.
Selena, what is your preferencewhen it comes to staying at the
Disneyland resort.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I am on property, 100% on property.
I won't go off property anymore.
The last time I did was in 2019and I vowed that it would be
the last time barring somethinginsane happening like if I were
to get a comp week at the Westend over by the convention
center or something, butabsolutely, 100% on property,

(01:32):
and my preference of the threeon property hotels at the
Disneyland resort is, of course,the classic Disneyland hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
If you're new to Disneyland lingo, we talk about
on property and off property.
When we say on property we meanone of the three Disneyland
hotels.
That means that the Disneylandhotel Grand Californian fix our
place hotel, which is very niceand newly remodeled, and the
benefit.
People will also say like inthe Disney bubble or outside of
the Disney bubble, because whenyou stay on property you're kind

(02:00):
of enveloped in this wholeDisney atmosphere.
You never leave.
You don't see a CVS, you don'tsee a Walgreens, everything is
Disney, and so you never kind ofleave the world of imagination
right there.
Off property would be anyhotels that are not owned by
Disneyland, even though they canbe very close to the actual
land of Disneyland.
Do you want to start, selena,talking about why you love

(02:21):
staying at the Disneylandproperties?
They are magical, the littlemagical touch.
It is a wonderful experience.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Oh yeah, it makes a huge difference, and part of it
is when I grew up, staying there, at a certain point that was
like our big family vacation forthe year was going to
Disneyland every year, and so myparents pulled out all the
stuff and then they got to apoint where they didn't want to
walk that long distance betweenthe main gates of the park and

(02:53):
any of the off property hotels.
I love everything you weredescribing about being in the
Disney bubble.
I like that the atmospheredoesn't end when the park ends
its operating day.
I also like the convenience ofthe walking distance.
Right now I've got two littlekiddos they are three and six.
They need naps in the middle ofthe day and it's much easier to

(03:16):
pack them up and roll them downdowntown Disney to either one
of the three hotels, usuallyDisneyland hotels.
It's convenient it makes mefeel all warm and fuzzy Disney,
but those are the two biggestreasons.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
For me it's going to be significantly more expensive,
unlike Disney World.
If you go to Disney World,almost everybody wants to stay
on property, and staying onproperty is a much bigger thing.
If you came from a Disney Worldexperience, you might think the
only way to experience Disneyis staying on property.
But here there's very fewhotels there's only three, and

(03:48):
there's a lot of people thatwant to stay there, so they can
charge a lot.
It's not abnormal for thosehotels to be five, six, seven,
eight hundred dollars a night.
The suites can be even more, soit is expensive for somebody
who's saying well, you know, Ican afford it, but is it worth
it?
What are some of theconsiderations that you look at?
The biggest?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
one is the location factor, how close it is, and I
know, having been to DisneyWorld twice only twice, and with
Disneyland being my home park,when I saw the sprawl of Disney
World and how long it took toget from a hotel to one of the
parks, I was like, oh okay, thisis a whole new world for me.

(04:28):
The three Disneyland hotels arewithin walking distance, and by
walking distance I mean ittakes at the longest, we'll say,
Pixar Place Hotel is maybetwenty minutes from hotel to
Disneyland main gate, a littlebit shorter if you're going over
to California Adventure themepark and Pixar Place now has a

(04:49):
back entrance to CaliforniaAdventure, so and if you're
staying at the Disneyland hotel,you can also use that entrance.
It's not specific to the PixarPlace guests, although all of
the signages currently beingtransitioned to being themed
over specifically to to PixarPlace Hotel.
But yeah, it's a, it's a veryshort Walk and then the the

(05:09):
rooms are much nicer.
I want to say you, robin,you're gonna know better than me
, is the different sort of love,I'm gonna say level, the
different sort of categories ofyour day at Disney World.
I know there's like the valueresorts and then there's the
more moderate ones and then theluxury hotels.
I would say that even PixarPlace Hotel, being the the more

(05:30):
affordable of the three options,is probably more of a moderate
to almost luxury style Hotel ifyou're comparing it to the the
Disney World accommodation and alot of the off-property hotels,
the good neighbor hotels, theones that are within walking
distance from the parks, again,maybe more like a half night,
depending on where you're goingand some have shuttles or maybe

(05:51):
even farther away.
They can be a little more onthe motel side.
But if you're not as as pickyabout at your amenities, if
you're used to you know theDisney World, value resorts
you'll feel like that's whatyou're used to yeah, and I kind
of tell people it's kind of likeVegas.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
You know, like a Vegas.
You know, three-star hotel isgonna be a little sketchy right,
because they can charge a lotmore for a motel across the
street from Disneyland Becauseof the convenience.
So, and I 100% agree with you,like the Pixar Pier, I would say
it would be kind of a moderateand that's a Grand California
and Disneyland hotel would bothbe deluxe and you know, with the
Grand California I feel likethat's got like a very like spa.

(06:27):
You know, like it's all aboutthe beauty in the nods to Disney
are a lot more subtle, so ithas a little like not a stiff
formal, but like more of aformal vibe I think.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh yeah, grand California is an arts and crafts
architectural style, so it is alittle bit more of celebration
of California, but it's notsomething that you're gonna see
along the, the typical beachstyle of resorts.
It's Very natural.
As far as, like the decorativeelements and you're right, the,

(07:00):
the Disney church is a littlemore subtle and a little more
about the woodland creatures.
So Chip and Dale are featuredvery prominently in the decor,
bandy is featured in the decorand that arts and crafts style.
Actually, it's not anotherExample of that?
Recently, if you guys have everbeen to Pasadena, there's a
house called the gamble houseand that's usually one of like

(07:22):
the textbook definitions of thearts and crafts architectural
styles those beams, a lot ofstone, a lot of wood, a lot of
shell, a lot of like seeing thehand of the Artists.
There's hand hammered metalsand hand-painted tiles, who see
those elements in the GrandCalifornia and as well.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And so I would say that the Grand California, if
you want to take it to like anormal hotel, would be more like
a Ritz or Waldorf.
It has that high-end Feel, it's.
It's a definitely a luxuryhotel.
Everything is based off thatluxury.
But the style is like whatSelena said, so that that's kind
of what you're getting and thatthe access the Grand California

(08:01):
has the closest access to allthree parks.
It is the closest walkingdistance to Disneyland.
It's the closest.
I mean, it's literally justit's right on the door of
California Adventure.
You, you step right in there,right from the property, so it's
going to have the mostconvenience.
So I think it's one of theeasiest.
If you have to come back andtake naps or if you really like

(08:21):
a luxury steak and you don'twant to leave the bubble, I feel
like that's kind of the bestoption there.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Absolutely, and it's definitely like you were saying,
the luxury style they have.
They even have a turn downservice.
You know, after you've shutdown the park, after you've
closed it out, at the end of theday you come back and
Housekeeping has come in.
They've, they've gym the lights, there are chocolates on your
pillow.
So it is very much a luxurystyle experience and, like you
were saying, it is the onlyHotel on Disneyland property

(08:49):
that has a spa, the Tanae spa Ihave not been to yet I'm dying
to go to which has a combinationof Kind of more health and
wellness style spa services,massages, facials and all of
that and more salon styleservices as well.
So it's luxury and that extendsto the dining too.
No, no, how well.
We don't need to go down thatrabbit hole because Before, with

(09:11):
the food, we've already talkedabout it, guys find the episode
where we talked about Disneylandtruth, but there is a very,
very nice dining experienceAttached to the Grand
Californian.
Don't need a hotel reservationto eat there, but you do get
priority if you are a guest ofthe hotel.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's called the Napa Rose and it is a high and like
they want you to wear a jacket,if you can type of experience
and so when people are like I'ma foodie, this is where I want
to go or I want to have a luxuryexperience, the Grand
Californian is pretty much whereall the luxury experiences are
going to be, with the exclusionof the VIP tour which happens in
the parks.
But if you're looking for thatluxury feel, the pool has very

(09:48):
much more.
It's a.
They do have a slide, but thepool does feel more like a
classic upscale hotel.
I feel like this would be agood time to talk about.
In comparison, the Disneylandhotel is also very deluxe, but
the vibe is very differentbecause it's very classic Disney
, very nostalgic Disney.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, it feels like this hotel is where Walt would
want to stay.
That's how I justified tomyself, which is partially why I
love it so much.
It definitely has that sort oflate 1950s vibe to it.
The way that the, the maintowers of the hotel, are
situated around the pool.
There's a lot of retro nods tohistorical Disney.

(10:27):
The, the pools are named, youknow, the e-ticket pool, the
d-ticket pool the decor and thearchitecture.
You have very much 50s and 60sinspired and it's still very
much a deluxe like type ofexperience.
But it feels more accessible,probably because it is the most
overtly Disney of the three, Imean modern, real slide pool,

(10:49):
like amazing tiki bar.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know they've got the Goofy's kitchen.
You know they've got diningthere.
You know teacups that you cansit in as you're waiting to
check in.
I mean, it is, it is and it'sgot an amazing history.
If you are a history nerd andyou're staying there, look up
defunct land, defunct lands.
Youtube is awesome, but youhave they have a whole episode
on the Disneyland hotel andthere's several other
Documentaries on this richhistory that Disneyland hotel

(11:13):
has.
And I think one thing thatyou'll hear over and over again
Is the headboards and howmagical the headboards are.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yes, the headboards.
Okay.
So if you've not stayed there,if you've not seen pictures, it
is this beautiful dark stainwood headboard that has a relief
, the beauty castle carved intoit and there's a little switch
on the nightstand in between thebeds.
You go and push the button onthe switch, you start to hear
dream is a wish your heart makesand then the headboard lights

(11:39):
up With fireworks above thecastle.
It is just so darling andcharming and it, like, makes me
so happy every time that we staythere.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
They have a concierge lounge at the top where you can
see the fireworks.
If you get the concierge levelLike, there's a lot of really
amazing benefits and I feel alittle bit more.
Disneyland hotel is my favoriteof the three.
Two, I think that you knowGrand California, you know you
can't match the level of luxury,but for Disney I, you know, I
feel like I feel more, I feellike it matches what I oh yeah,

(12:10):
we're both kind of Walt people,so you know like, yeah, we're
all about the history, so yeah,and then the, like I said, the,
the theme of Disneyland is justall over the hotel more of that
throwback vibe.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
So the three primary towers for your roomstays
they're named afterAdventureland, Fantasyland,
Frontierland.
At the entry level of FrontierTower there is a beautiful
concept diorama of Big ThunderMountain Railroad.
It's not like a working train,but just the level of detail is

(12:44):
gorgeous and my kids love seeingit every time that we are
happily assigned to FrontierTower.
The other towers, Adventure andFantasy Tower, have that same
kind of nods to their respectivelands.
Adventure Tower you're probablygoing to stay there if you get
the deluxe rooms with the parkviews attached to them.
Otherwise you're going toprobably be in a fantasy or a

(13:05):
frontier tower.
Robin was mentioning the teacupchairs and tables in the lobby
when the entry, so the mainlobby, is attached to Fantasy
Tower.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
It's just so much fun and there's so much history and
it, you know it is also very.
You know you're right next tothe monorail, which is the kind
of your back entrance forDisneyland, which is going to be
your closest entrance, and youenter through in the mornings
for both of or all of thesehotels.
You can kind of use these backentrances.
So there's the monorail atDisneyland and then there's the

(13:34):
two back entrances now atCalifornia Adventure that you
have access to, that regularpark guests.
You know they might be able touse them in the evening or like
midday, but in the morning thoseare exclusively held for hotel
guests and so in the securityline you're not dealing with
everybody there.
Everybody going through thosesections has early entry.

(13:54):
So it can make things a lotsmoother for you and we're going
to talk about that.
You know the early entry is oneof the big perks.
But first we should talk aboutPixar Place, which is a
wonderful hotel.
It's slightly it's the furthestaway, but we're talking like
like 500 feet, we're talkinglike a foot.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
It's next door to Disneyland Hotel.
It is literally next door, soit's like you're maybe adding
another two minutes to your walk.
I would say this is, whilestill probably you know, a high
moderate values style hotel.
It is the most affordable ofthe three and it does have the
vibe reflects that a little bitmore.

(14:38):
It's.
I've not stayed there sinceit's become the Pixar Place
Hotel.
I've stayed there when it wasthe Paradise Pier and even
before that when it was theDisneyland Pacific Hotel.
So it's it's got a few rethemes in the last couple of
decades, so hopefully this Pixarone will will stick, but it has
the many of the same amenitiesas the Disneyland Hotel and the

(15:00):
Grand Californian.
You know you're mentioning thosewalkability to the parks, that
special entry into theCalifornia Adventure Park which
is right near the main drivewayinto the Grand California Hotel.
You just kind of stick to thesouth and the entrance will drop
you off near the Corn DogCastle.
So it's a it's a great way tohit the lines.

(15:24):
Like you were saying, there isa security checkpoint there.
I have never seen anyone elsein that line in the the times
that I've used that.
It's shocking.
I was kind of wondering like isthis.
Am I in a backstage part of thepark right now Like what's?
going on, but no one else here,so that is a great park for sure
.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And it's you know.
I would say it's probably themost casual.
The Pixar theme is very clean,very crisp, but it feels very
fun and easy.
It doesn't feel maybe as formalas meet the Grand California.
The only negative really likelike that's a big negative
compared to it is there's nocharacter dining at that
particular location at the timeof this recording, at least not

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in the.
Hasn't been announced in theforeseeable future.
So if you are looking forsomeplace where you can go down
the stairs and and get breakfastwith Goofy or Mickey, you know
that hotel doesn't offer that,but it still offers all of the
other perks let's start with wetalked about.
I think you know nap time isnot something that they list on
the Disneyland website, but Ithink that going back and taking

(16:25):
a nap is crucial to having agood day at Disney, especially
if you have kids under the ageof seven or you're like me and
you're now over the age of 35 or40.
And I need a nap or I'm, me andmy husband are not having fun
at at 10 o'clock at night.
When you're staying on property, it is very easy to go back and
get a change of clothes If youget wet, to take a nap, get more

(16:48):
diapers.
So it as far as convenienceI'll let you talk about in
anything you want to add there.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Oh yeah, absolutely so.
In my experience, staying offproperty I mean I'm a, I'm a
road drop to end of operatingday to be all person Like I want
to be there as long as I can,knowing that I will have to, you
know, now with kids, go backand and taking that.
But I want to maximize my parktime.
And staying off property tendsto mean you've got to bring

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everything with you.
So if you know it's going toget colder in the in the
evenings, you got to make sureyou've got your jackets, have
your ponchos If you don't wantto get wet because having to go,
you know, walk back offproperty to get a change of
clothes, it's going to be a slog.
You would have to plan for sureon renting a locker.
I cannot remember the last timeI went to the locker in the
park.
I know the price is going upand up and it is kind of like a

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lot of the draw if they happento have lockers available.
The hotel room that's.
One of the big conveniencepoints for me is that you don't
need to bring absolutelyeverything you need for your day
.
If you forget something, it'smuch easier to go back, whether
it's, you know, your jacket foran adult, or if it's one of your
kiddos, you forgot theirfavorite Lovie, or you drop one

(17:57):
of their water cups or left itsomewhere.
Very easy to go back to yourhotel room on property and get
what you need before going backinto the park, some playing for
the rest of the day.
I know that Disneyland hasstores that you can rent.
I've never rented one of thembecause, again, I don't want to
be kind of subject to that.
Well, do they still haveavailability and I love
maximizing my time in the park,so I don't want to wait in line
to grab a stroller before goingin.

(18:19):
So being able to take thatstroller in and out from the
hotels to the parks, goingthrough that very, very short
line at security, either at theCalifornia Adventure Entrance or
even the main entrance intodowntown Disney, headed to
either the monorail to get intoDisneyland or walking through
downtown Disney to go throughthe main gate of the park itself

(18:39):
, that line is much shorter.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
The lines are shorter .
And then I think the biggestthing, that is the biggest value
when people say, is it worth itto me or not, especially if you
are going this is a once in ayear trip and, you know, maybe
there's only $300 differencebetween staying at a Disneyland
hotel or not is early entry.
And so now there are specificdays where you know, some days

(19:01):
is California Adventure, somedays is Disneyland, but you
would get to be in the park ahalf hour before everybody else.
This means that now they don'topen the entire park.
It's usually Fantasyland,tomorrowland, a couple of select
rides, not everything opens,but it also allows you to be,
you know, ride a couple of thoserides that generally have a
longer line before anybody elsegets there.

(19:21):
And if you did decide youwanted to do something like Rise
of the Resistance for Rope Drop, I don't usually recommend it
because it doesn't always openon time and it's a long walk,
but that gives you the bestposition to be at first.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Same goes for Radiator Springs Racers.
Those two rides.
I know that there's a lot offolks out there who would
recommend do those at Rope Drop.
I'm with you.
That's a no.
They're not always ready to go.
In fact, more often than notthey're not gonna be ready to go
out park opening.
So use that time to dosomething else.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
So that early entry can allow you to ride maybe like
five rides that you mightnormally have taken you two or
three hours if you'd come in 10o'clock.
Now you're only gonna get valueout of that staying at the
hotels If you are a morningperson that can get your family
out the door by about 7 ambecause you wanna have them out
the door through security readyto go right at 7 30.

(20:11):
But if you are able to get thatfull 30 minutes you can get so
much done in that small windowof time and then you can save
that time later to take a napwhen everybody else is busy
steaming in line, and thenyou're gonna be able to get on
the most number of rides andhave the most enjoyable day.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Absolutely 100% agree , and the early morning entry
has always been a part of me,even before I had kids.
I remember when it was calledmagic morning and then when it
was called extra magic hour, soit's gone through a few
iterations.
It really came in handy for myfamily.
In this most recent trip, weended up having to go to guest

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services at each park at thestart of our day.
Guest services is open at theparks during this early entry
time and the line issignificantly shorter.
So if you're someone who'sgotta get into guest services
for your day, that's gonna beprobably your shortest line of
the morning.
I was really shocked at howquickly we got through.

(21:13):
It's also, like you were saying, a really good opportunity to
get on some of those biggerrides.
My family, while I, was waitingin line at guest services in
Disneyland, they were able to goon Peter Pan and the wait was
under 20 minutes.
It's a really great opportunityto get on some of those rides.
You can also utilize that timeto take advantage of a shorter

(21:34):
Starbucks line, if that's yourthing.
The lines for food tend to be alittle bit shorter.
There are one of the thingsthat's open in specific lands in
both parks.
I know that the Starbucks waithas seen it be the shortest
during that hour.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
So that's gonna be your biggest thing, but you do
have to be early risers.
We talked about the backentrances.
Also, if, like let's say, youknow you're gonna buy your kids
Christmas presents, but youdon't wanna see them logging
Rapunzel's castle all the wayback to the hotel with you, you
can buy items and have them sentto your hotel room, which,
especially if you wanna buystuff earlier in the day, can be

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a really big value because youdon't have to lug that around,
you don't have to worry about itgetting lost, you don't have to
worry about it getting stolen.
So the package being able tosend packages to your room is a
big benefit.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Absolutely, and we have done just that.
Recently, robin, where we sawsomething over at Cars Land in
Raiders Spring, purchased it,had it sent to the room.
My son had no idea untilChristmas morning this past
holiday season.
So, yeah, really reallyconvenient until just send stuff
back to your room.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And that can be helpful if you're gonna do like
lightsabers too, cause you canhave them sent back to your room
.
You don't have to carry thosebig bulky lightsabers or droids
all day A couple more things.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I know we wanna talk about some off-property stuff as
well.
I wanna make sure everybodyknows that all three of the
Disneyland hotels offercontactless check-in and a
digital room key.
They call it direct-to-roomservice.
For all three of the hotels youcan actually check in within
five days of your arrival.
You submit your approximatearrival time.
It's not a guarantee that yourroom will be ready before

(23:08):
check-in, but the last threetimes that my family has been
able to do this, we were able toget into our rooms bypassing
the lobby altogether, goingstraight to our rooms, because
it was assigned to us readybefore that 3 pm standard
check-in time, got a digitalroom key that's attached to the
Disneyland app, which can bereally convenient, and for folks
who don't really like thatparticular prick, you can still

(23:30):
go down to get a physical key.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
As somebody who loses keys constantly, I always
appreciate a mobile key so.
And then they do reserve somedining in the hotel's
reservations that can be harderto get.
They hold some of those backfor hotel guests.
Those are the big benefits tostaying on property.
I think we touched on all thebig ones right.
I think so we kinda just reallysold you on that.

(23:51):
But you might say, well, why doI not like to do that?
And Selena goes to Disneylandoften, but I go to Disneyland
probably a dysfunctional levelof often.
So because I go so often andbecause my day job I do a lot of
traveling, I have a lot ofrewards, a lot of credit card
points, I have hotel status.

(24:13):
So the biggest benefit tostaying off property is going to
be the cost.
So you can stay at a hotel thatthe physical walking distance
is almost the same as theDisneyland hotel for a fraction
of the price.
Now, the rooms aren't going tobe as nice, you're gonna be
having to walk across the street, you know, pass on IHOP kind of
those kind of things, but youknow the value and the cost

(24:34):
savings is enough.
That allows us to go back moreoften.
Also, I'm a Marriott loyalistand so because of that I like
staying at the Marriott hotelsbecause I get you know special
perks and upgrades and it helpsme get my platinum, titanium
ultralight elite status everyyear.
But so if you have like aloyalty, if you have a loyalty

(24:55):
because of work there are, everyhotel chain is right there.
The courtyard with the waterpark is really nice, wonderful
stay clean rooms, clean facility.
The door's open to interiorhalls.
The Fairfield Inn is theclosest Marriott but it opens
outside and I would say it'sdefinitely more of a motel feel.
But then I really like theMarriott by the convention

(25:16):
center.
If you have snooty, bougieaccess to the lounge, their
breakfast is the favorite in thearea.
And but there are severalhotels across the street like
the best Western which Inormally wouldn't stay in a best
Western cause I'm a princess,you know the they.
Those ones can be pretty niceand they have a lot of suite
options.

(25:36):
So if you have a group, afamily of six, some of those off
property ones might be muchmore affordable for you.
When I'm looking at theDisneyland, the hotels that are
across the street fromDisneyland, I really wanna look
at recent reviews.
I wanna look at how close is itto the park entrance the main
entrance, not the parking garage, not the.
You know you need to be able tolook at how far you're actually

(25:58):
going to walk.
So anything that's on harbor,between Bal and Catella, those
are gonna give you the shortestwalking distance.
You know, as we get.
You know, just on the otherside of those they are within
walking distance, but a littlefurther.
The one thing that is differentis that there's a big
difference between staying inthe hotels that are within
walking distance and the onesthat you would have to drive to

(26:20):
or you would have to take a busto.
Anaheim has a resort busingsystem called ART.
Art that will bring you backand forth to a lot of the local
resorts.
They even will take you toKnott's Berry Farm and Back.
It's great if you have like anECV and you don't wanna have to
move that into a car.
There's a lot of really greatoptions, but if you are
someplace where you are going tohave to drive to Disneyland,

(26:40):
you need to think about one.
You're gonna have to pay forparking, probably at your hotel
and at Disneyland, and thenthere's the drive.
So in California, like inPhoenix, something that's 10
miles away is 10 minutes away.
Pretty consistently, in LosAngeles, something that's a mile
away could be 30 minutes away.
So I find when I stay aboutthree miles away, my drive time

(27:05):
is about 10 to 15 minutes, andif I stay closer to 10 miles
away, the drive time gets closerto 30 minutes.
Now that doesn't sound so bad,but then when you have to park
and get on the bus, you know,get on the tram, park your car,
you go downstairs, you get onthe tram.
Now we're adding about a totalof an hour of commute, which

(27:27):
means it's much more difficultto go back to take a nap.
It feels like a much biggerjourney and I end up not doing
it.
And then we end up havingshorter park days.
And then if somebody forgets thesunblock or somebody forgot
their jacket, now we're buying ajacket instead of where.
You know, do we really want togo all the way back to get that

(27:47):
jacket?
You really have to thinkeverything through.
The farther you will get awayfrom Disney and the harder it is
to change plans where you'relike okay, well, we thought we'd
take a nap at two.
Well, it started ringing, allright.
Well, now we need to thinkabout, you know, we need to
think about LA traffic and allsorts of other things.
It adds a lot of variables.
So for me I love standingsaying off property because I

(28:09):
can usually find a pretty gooddeal.
But I won't usually stay morethan three miles away unless
there's a really good reasonbecause it adds so much more
time.
And if you are staying in likethree to five mile range you
might want to consider Uberingback and forth to the park
instead of driving, so you don'thave that extra time and hassle
of parking in the parkinggarages.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I was just thinking about how you were.
You were talking about whenyou're staying on property.
You are on property, it is, itis Disney businesses, disney
licensed businesses.
When you're off property, ifyou need that convenience of
like a CVS or a Walgreens orsomething else, is easier to
access those things.
There's also more food options.
If you're not wanting the themepark food and I mean I don't

(28:54):
know why you wouldn't, becausethat's amazing.
If you're looking for, you know, like a McDonald's or a Panera,
you are going to find that,particularly along Harper
Boulevard.
So it's, it's, they'll bewithin walking distance of your
hotel and so that thatconvenience can be an incentive
for folks who want to stay offproperty.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
So the biggest thing when you're looking at these off
property hotels is you need tomake sure you really look at the
interior and the exterior ofthe rooms.
Make sure that's going to meetyour standards.
Make sure you look for anyreviews.
Recently for bed bugs, that'sjust the across.
Any time you stay at a hotel,look for those.
You know.
But bed bugs happen even in thefanciest resorts.
The only time that I've everhad an issue with bed bugs was

(29:35):
in a five star all inclusiveWestern property.
So it doesn't necessarily meanthat the property is dirty or
bed bugs happen.
We want to make sure that wedon't see a lot of people
complain about it, but makingsure you're comfortable with
like the way that the.
You know some people don't feelcomfortable having hotels that
open to the exterior.
They want that interior hallwayand you think about whether or

(29:57):
not there's free parking or not.
Is there free breakfast or not?
Don't assume, because it's afair field in, they will have
free breakfast, becauseFairfield is a great example.
They don't offer free breakfastthere, even though pretty much
every other fair field in in thecountry does so and they might
be stricter about like checkingearly policies, things along
those lines.
So make sure you look at thereviews.

(30:17):
The biggest thing that is youris you're looking at those
reviews and decide is figuringout how much how much will you
save and how far is the walkingdistance to the park, and then
trying to decide how much timeyou're going to be spending in
the room.
You know.
Does the pool matter?
I will tell you that, eventhough we don't usually go to
the pool very often becausewe're from Phoenix, pools are

(30:38):
everywhere here.
We can swim anytime we want,pretty much any day of the year.
So pools aren't as big of adeal for us.
But it is nice, after you'vebeen walking literally 10 miles,
to be able to get into a hottub while the kids play for a
little bit and relax thosemuscles.
So then you kind of want tolook at some of those things,
but there are a lot of, like shesaid, there's a lot of other
food options.
Easier to get Uber Eatsdelivered those kinds of things,

(31:00):
and you know I'll have.
Have you ever done Instacart orUber Eats to the Disneyland
hotels?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Not to the Disneyland hotels now, but I have seen
drop offs.
At my most recent visit theywere dropping it off down at the
lobby.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, I just don't know how that would, because
they can be a little they're.
They're pretty strict aboutparking, especially at the Grand
Californian, because peoplewant to park there and it's
really only for hotel guests orpeople who have dining
reservations there.
So they're pretty particular.
So but I think the biggestbenefits to staying off are
going to.
You know, I'm going to belooking at the costs, I'm going
to be looking do I already havehotel points where I can stay

(31:34):
for free?
Because I've done those creditcard points?
And then the thing that I wasleading to that I kind of lost
track along the way is peopleask is it safe to walk to my
hotel in that part of California?
And I will tell you thatespecially at the corners you
will see homeless people.
But around park operation, fromabout one to two hours before

(31:56):
the park opens to about an hourand a half after, there is a
steady stream of people on thosestreets all the time.
I've never really felt unsafewalking even as far as just a
little bit past the conventioncenter.
So you're going to be walkingwith a large group of people.
You're almost never going to bealone, and so you know, even as
a woman by myself.
I do feel safe on those streets.

(32:17):
If you want to stay kind of,you know, a little bit closer
than that does eliminate themost of the homeless that are
around.
Are you usually near the busstops, kind of at the corner,
but you know they've neverbothered me.
They're doing the best thatthey can and you know so I've
never felt unsafe walking there.
I will tell you that walking inthe morning sounds like a great

(32:38):
idea and then on the way backwe might decide to take an Uber,
we might decide to take an artbus back, you know, because the
walk back that last five minutesfeels like 700 hours and I have
heard friends of mine say thatlike this.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
that walk back with littles in particular can be a
real slog, particularly if youhave rented a stroller and you
have to check it back at themain gate as you're leaving the
park and you still have to walkwith these very tired little
ones.
The last time I stayed offproperty carried my son from the

(33:17):
main gate to the FairfieldMarriott and, oh boy, where my
arms are.
The next day, and that's mymain takeaway from that trip.
That was my son's second trip toDisneyland and that's like the
thing that stands out in my mind, just kind of a bummer.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I will say that if you are staying off property and
you are not bringing yourstroller I would highly
recommend this goes forwheelchairs to you Do not rent
at Disneyland.
Have them brought to your hotelroom because carrying them that
last mile will kill you and sostaying within a mile is going
to be walking distance.
But just know you might want tohave it on the way back.
You might decide to take othertransportation back.

(33:53):
The Uber pickup at Disneylandfrom about 9.30 to about 10.30
is ridiculous.
Your driver will be 700 feetaway and it will be 30 minutes
sometimes.
So if that is where you aregoing to be picked up, sometimes
it's better for you to walkdown to another location.
Patronize that business downfurther, not across the street.

(34:16):
They're very strict at theMcDonald's across the street and
stuff about Uber pickups, butwalking a little bit further for
an Uber pickup.
But there are buses that willtake you from the resort to
those local area hotels if youare too tired to walk.
Was that walking across thestreet?
Was that the thing that pushedyou over?
You were like never again.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
It was just not a great experience overall.
I don't know if it was justbecause of that particular
weekend, which was the weekendin between.
It was an early Thanksgivingyear.
It was like the weekend inbetween the veterans and
Thanksgiving.
But yeah, that walk back.
We just had a really weird stay.

(34:56):
When we checked in it was overan hour after check-in time
before we got our room.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And that's not abnormal in those area hotels
because they know they can getaway with it.
And there are hotels that areknown for really like the candy
cane in has a wonderfulreputation Anaheim has a
wonderful reputation, but thereare especially some of the
hotels that are across thestreet.
They know that you're stayingthere because it's across the
street, not because they havefive stars on TripAdvisor.

(35:25):
So you do kind of have to buildin a little bit more allowance.
I'm not saying that it's right,but it just kind of is the way
that it is.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
And we ended up missing our reservation in
downtown Disney because of that.
So it was just a series ofunfortunate events.
But, like you were sayingearlier, you plan on more time
if you're staying off property,not just because of the walking
distance but that securitycoming off of Harbor Boulevard,

(35:55):
everyone who is walking distanceis funneling in there.
So, they're coming in off ofCattella, they're coming in off
of Harbor.
It can be a really, really longwait, and then you still have
to walk across the Esplanade.
If you're going to downtownDisney, or you have to walk into
the main gate, you still haveto get your ticket scan.
So if you're looking atplanning out your day, taking

(36:16):
advantage of a lot of the thingsyou can make reservations for,
be mindful of that.
If you're staying off property,you can definitely still do it,
but I would plan on being therea half an hour before you
actually need to be there tomake sure that you don't miss it
.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
You can have a wonderful trip at Disneyland
doing both.
So it's just about decidingwhat you're.
You know, I've had magical,magical trips on property.
I've had magical, magical tripsstaying at an Airbnb when we
didn't have a lot of money.
Those can be a little bitsketchier but they can be
wonderful, but sometimes they'renot wonderful.
It's really about determiningwhat is most important for your

(36:50):
family.
So if you determine that we'renot early risers, we don't mind
walking, and you know for us, ifwe can afford to do individual
lightning lanes for both thingsand do genie plus, that's a
better value for us than beingable to stay closer because our
kids are older.
There's not a right or wronganswer.
It's just listening to, kind ofwhat, the different points of

(37:12):
each one.
So off property you might haveyou able to get free breakfast
or you might be able to havefree parking at some of the
farther away hotels.
So there are pros and cons toevery option.
It's just finding out whatworks best with what your family
needs and what your, what yourtrip goals are, whether it's
rides or shows or, you know,just trying to relax, which

(37:34):
Disneyland is not really arelaxing place.
So you probably pick the wrongdestination, but it can be, it
can be, it can be.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
but it's just yeah, you just have to do your
homework, which you know.
park magic is about you do yourhomework and then know what your
your priorities are.
And I will say, off property,the better experiences that I've
had and where the the hotelsthat were not attached to a

(38:05):
larger chain.
You know, this is when I was inmy twenties and I had an annual
pass but I couldn't afford tostay on property when it was
just, you know, me and my thenboyfriend at the time, now my
husband or me and my sisterdoing like a quick sister trip
and I didn't have those points.
So I ended up staying at acouple of the more the
independent, smaller, that arekind of a little bit more hotel

(38:26):
style but because they don'thave that brand awareness, in my
experience they've gone alittle bit more of that extra
mile to provide a little bit ofthat Disney magic on their
property.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
There are some hotels that are connected to brands
that I do feel like they phonein a little bit, because they
are across the street and youknow, hotels like the Anaheim,
like the candy cane in.
They do have to fight for thatbrand recognition, and so they
take their reputation a littlebit more seriously, I think.
So I think that that is a goodpoint, and you know, nothing

(39:00):
gets talked about more than youknow people's experiences at
hotels.
So there's lots of informationand reviews.
Just make sure you kind of letme make sure that whatever hotel
you pick matches the needs ofyour family.
We hope that this episode hasbeen helpful in letting you pick
and like.
Know that this is just onecomponent of your trip, so if
it's stressing you out too much,you can always look at a travel

(39:21):
agent.
They can help you book.
I think the other benefit tobooking on Disney's website,
even if you're using a goodneighbor hotel, is you can pay
off your tickets and your hoteland pay with it, put a deposit
down and make payment, thoughthere are lots of options.
But anyway, we hope thisepisode has been helpful and if
you have any other questions,feel free to reach out to us at

(39:42):
hello at parkmagiccom or reachout to us on any of our socials.
Thanks and have a great day.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
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