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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And welcome back to Pastor Plex Podcast Special
Edition, here with none otherthan Pastor Holland Gregg from
the Eastside.
Welcome, pastor Holland.
Hello.
And then also Lizzie Gregg,member at Eastside Community
Church, also my daughter, alsoHolland's daughter, and we're
going to talk about what exactlyis going on in the Greg home to
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produce a child like this.
So, lizzie, let's talk aboutwhat it's like being.
Are you almost nine or are younine?
I'm almost nine.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, I'm almost nine , okay, so talk to me about
being almost nine in the Greghousehold and talk to me about
like how much you guys studiedthe Bible.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I don't know, you don't know, you don't know the
hours.
Do you wake up?
Do you talk about the Bible?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, when we wake up early, dad reads bible verses to
us what bible verse like.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Does he just open up the bible, or he?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
has a daily journal, like a daily bible, so we read
from that, and then yeah, andthen also, what else is it?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
we do this devotional is this in the morning?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
no, not dimensional a challenge.
Is this in the morning?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, not devotional A challenge?
Yes, this is in the morning.
What time do you wake up?
10, 11?
, 9.
Okay, 10.
All right, so you wake up about9 in the morning.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This is new.
The sleeping in is reallypost-time change.
They haven't adjusted yet.
That's good.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Gets your beauty sleep.
What time do you?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
go to bed?
Well, I stay up reading theBible and the Little Pilgrim's
Progress.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, of course you do.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And then I just fall asleep, at any time at least.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Like 7 pm, no 8 pm, no Later, later 9?
No 10?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
11.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Like 11.30.
All right, that makes sense.
Okay, good, so you're readingbooks about Jesus Pilgrim's
Progress, the Bible.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is it like an hour of reading your Bible every night?
Well, I usually read, like one,two to three chapters of
Pilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Can you tell us what Pilgrim's Progress is about?
Is it like the Pilgrim'sProgress Junior, or is it the
legit Pilgrim's Progress?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's Little Pilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, Little Pilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So it's like a kid's version.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, the kid's version.
All right, I was going to sayif you were reading the actual
Paul Bunyan I'd be like dang, weare way behind.
All right, go ahead.
Talk to us about LittlePilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, it's an example of the Bible.
So there's this part where hecomes to a cross and he has this
like heavy backpack on him.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He said it's like he said, he's coming to a cross.
Is he coming to a cross road oris he coming to an actual cross
?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, cross, okay.
So he says it's his burden, thelittle heavy backpack.
So he comes to the cross andthe backpack falls off.
So that's an example of whenyou come to Jesus like you don't
have, like your burden goesaway, or something like that
yeah and then yeah goes away, orsomething like that, yeah and
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then yeah.
But then it's like there's likechallenges and more examples of
god, of the bible and god sowho's the main character?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
little christian, little christian.
And so then he meets differentpeople along the way.
Who are some of the charactersthat he meets along the way that
either give him problems orhelp him out?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
well, there's, there's these two cats oh, two
cats and they were trying tomeet the king too, but they
don't.
They don't really like theywouldn't go to the right way
which way they go well, theywent a different way.
Instead of the gate becausethere was a gate to this little
thing that they tell you whatpath you have to go- yeah.
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And little Christian knew whatthe path was.
But they didn't.
So they took the two wrongroads and they end up suffering.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So that's what you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Little Christian's a bunny, right?
Yes, oh, he's a bunny, he's ananimal.
Okay, that makes.
So that's what you LittleChristian's a bunny right?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, oh, he's a bunny .
All those little animals.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, that makes sense it's like an animal, not a
human Right.
Okay, so how in your life haveyou sort of seen yourself as
little?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Christian walking the road to find the king Well,
getting baptized.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We Well, I don't know .
I just felt like it was walkingthe path to another step, to
jesus yeah so I just felt likelittle christian when I did that
.
Well, I haven't, I haven't gotthe book when I got baptized.
But now I just think back ofthat and I just feel myself.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh, I love it.
When did you get baptized?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Last year.
Right, yeah, yeah, last year.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And what was your favorite part about that?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Did you feel any different?
Was there, like you know, youwent into the water.
You're like, or was it justlike?
This is a cool experience, nice.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just I, or was it just like.
This is a cool experience, nice.
I just, I don't know.
Well, it was awesome to begetting baptized and taking
another step to jesus, so Ireally felt proud of myself
after that, yeah and yeah, sotell me about how you know most
kids that grow up in pastor'shomes.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They haven't really done anything that bad.
So how did you know that youwere a sinner?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, my dad told me Well, and I just know it because
I how do you know it?
Because I sin and I'm notperfect.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What was the one thing you did wrong?
I did a lot of stuff, but Likewere you not nice to your
parents?
What was the thing that sticksout to you?
It was like the thing that youknew you needed to change, and
then you did, and it changedbecause you met Jesus.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I used to do tantrums like massive tantrums.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like how big a tantrum are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I will not tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, I'm just curious.
There's a lot of fans out therethat have fans of Pastor Plex
podcast dozens, I would say thatalso have children and they
tend to throw tantrums.
So can we, can you tell us whatyou're thinking in the middle
of a tantrum?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't know what I'm thinking is it just like?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
you're blinded by the anger and you're just like is
that kind of it?
Yeah, kind of okay, so what wasyou know in?
In psychological world theycall it a trigger, like what
triggered you, what set you offto like lose your mind?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
um well, I don't know , I'm just, I'm very sensitive,
so sometimes it just hits me andI'm like I need to get this
done, or like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're sensitive, yes , and you need to get things
done.
Get what done, yeah.
What do you need to get done?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Get stuff done.
That's no, but like it feels.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Is it one of your brothers that makes you upset
and angry, to put you in atantrum?
Or is it your mom saying youhave to obey and you're like I
don't want to obey?
What's the thing?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's both, but yeah, a lot of times it's my brothers,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But when you're saying I just have to get this
done, I think you meant.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But there are times when youwould say I done I think you
meant.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But there are times when youwould say like I feel like I
just have to be mad, like I'm soI can't, oh, oh, so the have to
get this done is not like, uh,I'm gonna put away the dishes.
It's, it's I need to rage.
Is that kind of?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
what happens?
I guess so, but after then I'mlike so sorry and I just, but
now I am done so is that?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
uh, that's good.
So you know, one of the fruitsof the spirit is self-control.
So do you feel like the fruitof the spirit of self-control is
in you more now that you'vereceived jesus as your savior?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
yes, there is this thing called thunder pause.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh, talk to me about what.
What's a thunder pause?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
so a thunder pause is when you know how the storm it
gets like really, but then youcount down.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You mean like when you see the lightning.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, and then the thunder.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Then there's like a pause, one, two, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So it's like there's a storm with your anger and you
count, you take a deep breathfor the lightning, I think, and
then you count until, and thenyou do it a lot until you feel
calmed down and ready to saywhat's right instead of just
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letting your anger fly.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, so how?
So when let's say that youforget about the thunder pause,
do your mom or dad they go,thunder pause, thunder pause,
like.
And you're like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Uh, no, no, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And you're like oh yeah, no, no, it doesn't work
like that.
I just Do you count foryourself.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, you count in your head and then it really
helps, because that's Mommyhelps remind you of Thunderpaws,
right?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh yeah, sometimes, because that was from y'all's
gentleness, it was a.
Emotional or challenge.
No, it's from a book, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But the Thunder Paws was today.
It's like taking a deep breath.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So was that today's lesson.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was also from a book they read maybe like a week
or two ago, and it's calledThunder Paws.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's from the library .
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh, I love that.
How often do you go to thelibrary?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, once a month, I think.
But we also get theseread-alouds that we read Like
there's like the book reads toyou.
So we listen to those everynight and they help us fall
asleep.
So we don't go that oftenanymore, only if we get bored of
the read-aloud books and wewant new ones.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, okay, so talk to me now.
So in the morning you do adevotional, Is it devotional
with your dad?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I think it's.
No, it's with my mom.
I think it's not a devotional,I think it's like a challenge.
It's called the gentlenesschallenge.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, so all right, hold on.
So a 30 day gentlenesschallenge?
Water over your head and golike I'm a big shot, and then
you go and be gentle to people.
No, oh, what do you do for agentlest challenge?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
My mom reads it from her phone, so there's verses and
then it goes.
Someone wait, someone goes wait.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh, you're trying to remember the verse.
Give me the general gist of theverse.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So um they just read a verse off of this.
There's someone who writes itthat has 10 children.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
What 10 children?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, and she just writes about things that can
help you.
One of them was don't let youranger fly, or just think of a
verse like kindness and calm, soyou think of that while you're
doing that and then it helps you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So you go, like you get angry, you go.
Love is patient, love is kind.
Love is patient, love is kind.
I'm ready.
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think you're getting all the things wrong?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
No, is that not what you're doing?
Oh, sorry, Okay.
No, is that not what you do?
Oh, sorry, okay.
So you, I'm just trying tofigure out how, in the
gentleness challenge, how do youmove from the I'm about ready
to rage to like I'm ready tohave a conversation, like that's
the, but what I'm trying to see?
The dozens, the listeners allover the globe are wanting to
know, lizzie, how do you get toa place of self-control by the
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power of the Holy Spirit from aplace of anger and rage.
So you say that to yourself, doyou like?
What's the process?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I don't, Well some.
Let me think of something Well.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You did a thunder pause like yesterday or
something right?
Didn't you get mad and youstepped away, went to your room.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I didn't you get mad and you you stepped away
, went to your room, or I did.
You declare like thunder pause.
And then you like leave.
No, okay, go ahead.
What do you do?
Because that would be kind ofcool.
I could like to be an actionshow and, like you know, like a
christian action show.
Like you have this family'rereally angry and all of a sudden
he goes Thunder Paws and thenhe walks away, calms down, and
then he comes back, says I'mready, because you get it like a
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thunder clap.
You should try that next time,all right.
So the Thunder Paws happens.
You don't say Thunder Paws.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, because when you're, when you're angry, it's
hard to like get excited or belike really funny.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, because you're like really in the zone it's
called being emotionally flooded.
When you're filled up with allthese emotions, you have a
tendency to fight, flight,freeze or fake.
Those are the big four f's.
What you do.
What is your tendency?
To fight or flight?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, I think flight, because I would, just I would I
used to just like not let it goand I would just like I need to
do this, I need to get it done.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, fight that's more.
Fight, yes, raging yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But I used to do that .
But now I'm like I I learnedthe thunder pause, so I'm doing
the thunder pause and I feelcalm and I walk away because it
takes.
And then I think of what to saynice and then I go back and I
say like that hurt my feelingsor or.
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This is an example.
So I did the Thunderpaws todaybecause Ethan took one of my
Lego pieces and I took aThunderpaws because I was
getting really mad and I thoughtof what to say.
But I didn't leave because Ithought of what to say and I
said Ethan, could you pleasegive this back?
And he wouldn't listen.
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So I tried one more time and Isaid it really calm.
Then I went to mom and I saidcould you please help?
And she said yes, and then Owenalso helped.
He found some more Lego piecesand we made a trade and yeah,
and I got my Lego pieces backand everything was fine wow,
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that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, that's incredible.
Alright, so now talk to me,lizzy, about the day you're
starting off the morning.
You've gotten up at 9 o'clock,ready fresh for the day.
You've done your devotionalright.
Yes, you've had a gentlenesschallenge.
Then what do you do next?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
well, I usually play with my brothers Mm-hmm, and
today I gave them some candy andthey were very happy about that
.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You gave them candy.
Yes, what candy did you givethem?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Gum Starbucks what.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Starbucks yeah or.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Starburst, oh Starburst.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Because I was like man, you just made a quick run
to Starbucks and brought us acoffee.
I'm sure that would have goneover really, really well, all
right, I mixed those two up.
What's your favorite flavor ofStarburst?
I'm a red guy myself, you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I think the yellow or the red Really Yellow.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, a little lemony , a little flavor.
Okay, so then do you guys're?
You do homeschool.
You used to do uh public school, but you're doing homeschool
now.
So talk to me about uh.
After your mom teaches you,we'll get we'll get into
homeschool stuff in a sec, butyou, throughout the day, um, you
learn stuff from your mom.
Yes, um, does your dad everhave to teach you stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
yeah, we have these daddy days.
It's all it's um.
Every Monday, my mom goes outto this Pilates class.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Good Pilates.
That's good it's.
It's fun.
Everyone needs some stretching.
Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And dad stays with us and we do school with him.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Is he hardcore?
Sometimes he doesn't do thatgood.
Oh really Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, sometimes he doesn't do that.
Good, oh really, okay, yeah, sowe can cut that part out.
Mom said that herself.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
She said with reading , that's good you know, we like
authentic community around herethis is great, all right.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So now daddy wants to teach things that are
extracurricular things sometimesto memorize the words and they
and they took that reallyserious and they memorized it.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
No, but then nope, okay.
No, we're missing context here,that's what you did.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Wyatt told mom, and mom was.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wyatt was not, so you got a stitch.
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, what happened was , I was teaching them reading.
We're practicing reading somethings, yeah, and after they
finish sounding out each word, Iwould say now you have to read
it again until you can say thewhole sentence without sounding
out a word.
Nice and so, but that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I lost the translation.
Maybe he thought he had tomemorize it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And yeah, and then he kind of came off that that
wasn't what I was doing.
It's all good now, we allcleared it up.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It teaches the test, not how to learn.
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Everything's fine.
I'm great.
I'm a great teacher, I'm agreat teacher.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right.
So, okay, let's get back to atthe end of like the school day,
when your daddy comes back.
Let's talk about the eveningspiritual routine.
So how do you, when does yourdad do the devote?
He does one in the morning,Does he do another at night?
When's the point where you guysget together and sing?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, well, we do that every night.
Every night and we go to thepiano or who plays the piano, my
dad, and then we all sing aworship song.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
What song do you sing or what's one of your favorites
?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think Sanctuary.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But we sing that right.
Is that Lord?
Prepare me to sing, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But and then sometimes he goes into our rooms
and I come in too, and then he,we all sing some.
And then one night we did thislittle instrument one.
So we all grabbed some littlethings.
We all grabbed things likecards, cards, not cards, okay,
(18:24):
never mind.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Cards that make a noise.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
No, yeah, like you do .
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, that's what makes the noise.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And then we would like there's little drums, and
then we would pat the drums anddad would play the guitar, wyatt
would hit a book, ethan wouldshake a chain.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
A rattler yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And then we would all sing a song.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
My chains are gone.
I've been so free no.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, it was like what was it.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think it was something like Nothing but the
blood.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, I think it was nothing but the blood.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
song.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, sing it for me.
Give me a quick little.
How's that go?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh, okay, nothing but the blood of Jesus, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Precious.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh, precious is the flow.
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
What do?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
you like about that song.
I don't really know, but it'sjust.
I mean, it's just a good song.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, what's it about ?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I never really knew that though.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, so that song is about the precious flow of the
blood of Jesus.
Is that what makes us white assnow?
Like?
What does white as snow mean?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
On the inside.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Oh well, Pure.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes.
So remember how Jesus' blood isreally red, and if you got
blood all over you, that wouldnot make you cleaner.
But because it's Jesus, it'sdifferent and he has the power
to make you clean on the inside,and that's why you sing the
songs.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, his blood washes away our what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Sin.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah so good Sing about his forgiveness and his
first.
Like read a scripture together,then pray together and sing.
Is that kind of how that thatgenerally goes?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
yeah, I think so right yeah, sometimes we'll do
like we've been doing thecatechism a lot lately.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, tell me about the catechism.
What's that?
Well, what's a catechism?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
we have this book and we practice it every night.
So there's this book withpictures and questions and
answers okay so we would readthree to five questions every
night, but a lot, Um.
So we would read them and wewould, we would practice them,
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we would, we would copy, wewould repeat uh dad, cause he
was reading it.
So we would do that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So he asked the question.
You repeat the question.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Uh, yes, and then he would tell the answer.
Then we would repeat the answerand sometimes we would try to
do it all by ourself and hewould ask this question.
We had to answer the.
We had to answer the answer, Doyou?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
know any.
Do you have any of thosequestions off the?
I mean that might be a hardquestion Like do you know any of
the like?
Is there one?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
like you know who is God, or something like that that
you have to answer, or is itlike what kind of questions is
it?
Well, there is one that I thinkI remember, but it's man.
What is it?
I think it's like what are thethree things that God gives us?
Baptism, wait, no, what are thetwo things?
Two ordinances maybe?
Yep, what are the two things?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Two ordinances maybe, Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So the two ordinance are baptism and the Lord's
Supper.
Nice, so that's.
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
but what about?
Who made you?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh, and then God made me and all things.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, and why did he make you?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
For his glory.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Mm-hmm, or what about what's the one we did the other
night?
The three talked about Jesus asthree things.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I think it's all P's.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Two of them are P's yes Prophet Raw.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Pro Prophet, prophet Uh-huh and priest Right yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Remember we sang nothing but the blood, yes, and
we said which one is nothing butthe blood about?
Prophet, priest or king?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think it was prophet priest good.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Lizzie does a great job so, lizzie, like here's the
real question.
Yes, at some point somebody isnot paying attention.
Somebody has to be punchingeach other as you're trying to
listen to your dad.
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, it would be Ethan, Wyatt and Owen.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, so not you.
You are pretty much the angelchild of the family.
Three boys, not her, yeah, soyou know I literally hear them
every night punching people.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
They share a room and she's in the room next to them.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, and there's this hole in my wall because
Wyatt pierced it, so I can hearthem from that hole in the wall.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Do you ever stick your ear up to the wall?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And I talk to them, sometimes hole in the wall.
Do you ever stick your ear upto?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
the wall?
Yes, and I talk to them.
Sometimes I'm like guys cry intown oh wow, do you ever tattle
yeah sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Okay, um, I mean I have to tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh, that's what I appreciate.
Someone has to say something,alright, so okay.
So talk to me about, like, howlong does it take to do the
reading, the praying and thesinging?
Is that like a couple hours?
Is that like— no, a coupleminutes.
Oh, a couple minutes, all right, so about like five minutes,
ten minutes?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Maybe how much yeah, like ten or—.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Sometimes we do shorter if it's really late at
night.
Sometimes we'll do longer ifthe kids yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Do you like the longer ones or the shorter ones?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yes, I like the longer ones, because there's
this thing Friday nights.
Sometimes we do Friday movienights, but I think we've only
done this two times, but there'sthis like Friday Bible night.
So we would all come in theboys' room, so we would all I
would get a blanket and a pillow.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is it all?
Three boys in one room?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, okay, okay, we would all.
I would get a blanket and apillow, so my dad would read
lots of like chapters of theBible.
So he would read like we wouldpick a book of the Bible and we
would read it, um, you'd pick abook of the bible and we would
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read it, um, and it was like anadventure or story one.
So we would all listen to thatand we would.
Sometimes we would fall asleep.
There was this the first timewe all fall asleep, because that
that's when I was sharing theroom with them, okay, but then
we didn't stay up that late.
Well, well, yeah, okay, butthen we all went.
So we would read Bible, bible,book, book of the Bible, and
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that's what I really like, andthen, well, for like a couple
hours, yeah, until they fallasleep.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And until Ethan fell asleep.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So they listen the whole time.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yes, because it's the Bible and they like.
Well.
Sometimes they make a littlebit of distractions, but either
way, we just read the Bible andwe all fall.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
We sometimes fall asleep and yeah, okay, so tell
me about.
I think I saw you writing outPsalm 23.
Are you trying to memorizePsalm 23?
Yeah, you can show us?
Yeah, right there, you show thecamera right there.
All right, so you wrote outPsalm 23.
Great penmanship, by the way.
So tell me about what promptedyou to write Psalm 23.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, it really sticks out to me because I
really like it and it's one thatI've known for a long time.
So I do want to memorize it.
I remember some of it, but Istill need to.
I would, when I was writing itdown, I would close the book for
some passages, then I would tryto write it down, but then I
would check if I got it rightand then sometimes I forgot
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stuff.
So I would look at the Bible,then I would close it because I
know it now, and then I wouldwrite it down.
Wow, so yeah.
That's really great I reallywant to memorize this so I can
quote it to myself at night.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Or I can just read it , but I really want to memorize
it, so I can quote it if I don'thave my Bible.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right, right, yeah, let's say persecution comes.
They burn all the Bibles andnow you have the Bible on your
heart, you're going to hideGod's Word in your heart that
you may not sin against Him.
Good, all right.
So this is really fun, allright.
So now talk to me about whenyou were in public school.
What was that like?
So now talk to me about whenyou were in public school.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
What was that like?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
It was hard.
What was hard Was the academicshard.
Were the kids hard.
Were the teachers hard.
What was hard?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I loved my teacher what?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
was her name.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
She was a Christian.
Her name is Miss.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh nice.
So she now comes to our churchbecause I invited her, because
you invited her.
Yes, you're like a littlemissionary, all right.
So you were at school.
How did you say to her Miss,it's time.
How did you work up the courageto do that?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, I just felt like she needed to come to a
church because I knew she was aChristian and yeah, how did you
know?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Did she tell you she was a Christian?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
No, I just knew, because her kind heart and how
she deals with things.
So I, um, I still have thislike church card in my hand, so
I gave it to her and I said um,or I said something like would
you like to come to church withus?
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Or we're at the ecc.
And I gave her the card.
I think that's what I said.
I said something, some,something like that um, but,
yeah, and I invited her tochurch.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So I was she a young person, old person, or to you,
they're all he was like 40 okayum.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
so she came to our church and she is now a member.
She just became a member lastsunday, nice, and she is now a
member.
She just became a member lastSunday, nice, and she is now
teaching our dance for Easter.
She has become a big part ofour church and I'm really proud
of that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Wow, you should be proud of that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So I invited another person to our church.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It was someone at the Y that we go to.
I think her name is Arco Arco.
Nice, she came to our church.
Who's that?
It was someone at the Y that wego to, I think her name is Arco
.
Arco nice she came to ourchurch on Kids Sunday.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So what's Kids Sunday ?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Kids Sunday is a thing where kids get to go well,
elementary kids get to go, orelementary and middle school.
So we all go to Kids Sunday.
There's games, there's Bibleverses, there's activities and
we have really fun doing it andit's just a time?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Is that during the service, or is that?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's during the whole church.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So the whole church is focused on the kids.
So you sing two songs and theneverything's like alright, kids,
we're now doing this game.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
No, they go and do like a separate children's
ministry.
Oh, got it, got it.
Normally the elementary kidsare in the church with us.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So after the two songs, announcement comes on.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Who does the announcements?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Miss Nadine.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
So she does the announcements and on Kids Sunday
she said it's Kids Sunday, nowgo.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did everyone cheer.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, the kids did Okay and then, she, and on Kids
Sunday she said it's Kids Sunday, now go.
Did everyone cheer?
Well, the kids did Okay, andthen she said, all right, let's
go.
It's Kids Sunday, bye, okay,but then something like that,
it's just funny, okay.
But then we would go, and therewas one experiment that I
remember.
Well, I remember a lot of them,so I'm going to tell you one of
them.
It's a balloon and a candle.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
A balloon and a candle.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So a balloon.
His name is Jack.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
We're giving the balloon a name, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
How about Jack Jack, all right, or Bob?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Which one you have to choose.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Bob All right Bob.
Okay.
So Bob walks along and he comesto the candle and the candle
represents darkness and evilness.
So he comes around a challenge,which is the candle.
So he's not.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Is the candle lit or is it just it's lit?
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Okay.
So we went all back around andit was just an empty balloon.
You would hold it above thecandle and it would pop.
So he was hurt, like when we goand when man.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, so when we when you jump in a fire.
Oh, so we go there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
But now Bob comes back with water in him.
The water represents the joy ofthe Lord.
So he comes to the candle andhe gets a little burned, just a
little, and he doesn't pop.
They tested that out, so it'sgood.
So the water wouldn't spill.
Yeah, so he would do that, theywould do that and they would
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hold it above and they wouldtell us that if you have the joy
of the Lord in your soul, thatyou would just get a little
burned, just a little hurt, andyou wouldn't just pop and get
really injured by the sin.
So that's what I remember.
Then there's this, another oneGrab a paper towel.
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There was hearts.
It was a big heart, three littlehearts on that side, then three
other little hearts on thatside.
We would color in the hearts,just the big one.
Then we would put it in a cupof water and we would stay there
for a few minutes and we wouldsee the redness, the red of the
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heart, spreading to the otherones whoa so it represented that
.
It represent that um our loveor god's love can spread, or
yeah, yeah, so it spreads otherhearts through you.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So tell me, like that's wild that you remember
all of that.
Yeah, what you know, there'ssome parents out there that feel
like going to church isn't thatimportant, okay, or they'd
rather you know, listen, they'vegot important things, they got
sports games, they got stuffgoing on, but why do you feel
it's important to make the mostimportant thing going to church?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Because church is where you get baptized, you come
to Jesus and you hear the word.
You can also listen to itonline.
But that also you can alsolisten to it online.
But it's also great because youcan come to church and you can
actually be there in realityinstead of just watching it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
So you can come there and you can meet other people.
We have this meeting greet.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
We all go meet other people.
Is that scary for you, or doyou love it?
Some, well, I don't know liketell me what you're feeling.
So like, all right, because wehave that time.
Hey, everybody go and shakehands with your neighbor and ask
him some some fun question isthat your favorite?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
um, well, sometimes I I don't really do it because
I'm a little scared to meet newpeople, but I sometimes I go up
with the people I know and tellthem how, how are you doing?
But now I feel like I shouldwork on that and I should be a
little braver and when it'smeeting greed, I should come out
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and meet new people that's sohard it is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's challenging, but achievable, yes, so all right.
So what if there's a grumpyface?
You ever seen a grumpy face?
Yes, all right.
So how?
What do you?
What would your advice be to aalmost nine year old who was
about to approach a grumpy face?
What would you tell them about?
Like overcoming fear and justsaying hi and being gentle.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, I would tell them that it's worth it because
I haven't done it.
So I don't really know what tosay because I'm still working on
that.
So this Sunday I really want towork on that.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Okay, so this Sunday, when you come back on the show,
you're going to tell us aboutyour move from scared to brave.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, I'll probably wake up early on Tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, before 10, probably good.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I woke up at like 4 to 5 today, so, and then I
couldn't go.
Okay, it's a long story.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
All right, yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You want me to tell it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I don't believe it's that long Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I guess it's short.
So I woke up at five and Icouldn't fall asleep until 530.
So I listened to a book.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Which book?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Called Arusha and the End of Time.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Arusha and the End of Time Arusha.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Arusha on the end of time.
What's?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
that Arusha on the end of time, arusha.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Arusha, arusha, arusha, arusha.
On the end of time.
It doesn't matter.
Okay, so somebody's name on theend of time.
Yes, got it.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, so I was listening to that and I couldn't
fall asleep because I was like,and everyone was asleep so I
couldn't, like tell him anythingbecause I don't want to wake
him up.
So I would come into my room, Iwould listen in stare at the
wall for an hour.
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And then you fell back asleepeventually, and then I fell back
to sleep but I heard the dooropen and I was like what is that
?
And it was my dad.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Aw that's nice, waiting for my meeting.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And then you slept in until 10 after that.
Yes, I slept in until 10.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Nice, so it sounds like good sleep, but no, it's
not.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Okay, all right, so let's talk about.
What is it that when you thinkabout, when you grow up, like
what is like the purpose of life.
Have you thought through that?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I want to become I don't know.
Well, I want to go to a church.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You want to go to a church?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Why do you want to go to a church Like what about
church?
You really love church?
Yes, I do.
What do you want to go to achurch Like what about church?
You really love church?
Yes, I do.
What about it that you reallylove?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, people can come to Jesus, to there.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And we can hear the word and experience stuff and we
can meet new people and makefriends Nice.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Oh, that's wow.
Yeah, so part of your future isgoing to church.
What else?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I also want.
Maybe I can.
I can also plant one, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You want to be a church planter.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I also want to do a lot of stuff, but I also want to
become like.
I want to give to the poor.
Yeah, you tell me more, you'retelling me like in the car every
time, and I would give.
When I would see a sign withpeople, I would give them some
money or some food or anythinglike that.
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So I really want to help thehomeless.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Do you ever have homeless people come to church?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, I don't think so, have we do.
We don't think so, have we wedo.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
We don't point them out, okay All right.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
If there's anyone generally with probably a huge
backpack, they might be homeless.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So it's not like you want to judge them for it, but
no, okay, but there is this onethat we really got to know.
It's, oh, homeless person.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
His name is Adam right.
Oh, how'd you meet him?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, he was on the street and we gave him a bag of
coins and socks Nice, and welearned his name.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
When was that?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I think it was like a year ago.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So you still remember Adam from a year ago.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We used to drive by him like every day and talk to
him and he was that's cool.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
How did you get to know.
So you how.
What was the first initialconversation for you?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
well, I gave him.
I think we just started outwell I already.
I love him.
I like I want to help peopleyeah so I saw him and I was like
, do we have some coins in thecar?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
yeah, yeah, so you initiated it.
You're like we need to helpthat guy.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yes, I do this with every everything.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
And did your mom ever go?
We can't right now because wehave other things to do.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
No, no, no.
Um, I think we just like shedoes.
She doesn't have anything inthe car that we can give, but
sometimes we do that.
But I think it was yesterday.
We drive by one and we gave him.
It was homeless and hungry, sowe gave him a chewy bar that was
left in our car.
We have a messy car okay.
It's still helping.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
It was very.
No, I'm not, that was great.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Very sweet Lizzie.
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It was fine.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Good.
So in my head I was thinking ofa chewy bar that had been Not
like a chewed up bar.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
No, it was a chewy bar.
It was in the package.
Still.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Now we're together, okay, fully with you.
Okay, so you gave him a chewybar and he enjoyed that.
Yeah, was this guy grateful?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
yeah, um was this guy grateful.
Yes, he was like he um.
He said thank you, god blessyou oh that was nice.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So we, yeah, and so back to adam.
So sorry, back to adam.
Focus, chris, sorry we gave him.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
We.
I said do we have any coins inthe car?
So we, we gave him some coins,and then the next day I said how
about we go and buy himsomething like some socks or
some shoes?
So we went to the Walmart, andI don't have to be specific,
though, but we went to Walmartand got him some socks, and we
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put some coins in there that Ihad, and little snacks in there,
I think.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
So all the coins that you had?
Is that what you got like frombirthdays, or change from stuff
you bought, or I just I workedfor it.
Oh, okay, so tell me what.
How'd you work for it?
Like what's your job?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Mowed the lawn, did the dishes, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Just the normal everyday chore stuff.
You get like an allowance or isit like per activity?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, I just.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, per activity.
Yeah, so you were thinking Imade some money, now I can go
give it to Adam or whoever.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yes, so I gave the bag of socks, a snack and some
coins to him and he was verygrateful.
So we would go visit himsometimes because he was right
by this place called taco belltaco bell.
Yes, oh yeah but now we don'tsee him a lot.
I think he got like himself,like a little homeless thing.
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I think it was home, but Idon't know he got.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
He's no longer homeless.
I don't he might be homed Idon't know he's no longer
homeless.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't know he might be homed.
I don't know.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
But yeah, so I just remember him and that's the
first thing I got.
So maybe your life might be allabout ministry to those who are
less fortunate.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah, I think so.
You want to be in church, youwant to maybe help start a
church.
Start a church.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And give to the homeless.
Give to the homeless, give tothe homeless.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
What about?
Where are you going to live?
Are you going to stay by mommyand daddy?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, wherever God tells me to.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Okay, nice, very good About.
How many kids are you going tohave?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I don't know God's choice.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Wow, amen I have no idea.
Wow, amen, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Wow, you're big into God's sovereignty.
What?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
about pets.
You can have dogs, cats, exoticanimals.
Oh, a hamster, a hamster, yeah,we don't allow that.
A dog, a puppy like a little.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
You should ask Miss Adrienne what happened to her
hamster.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Everyone has a traumatic hamster story.
Guaranteed, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I have a hamster, the one that she bought like a
couple years ago.
I have a friend her her hamsterdied.
Her name is lanai, but yeah,they buried her backyard,
backyard burial I don't know thewhole story, okay, but I got to
, yeah, so yeah, so so yourfuture your is going to have
children in it.
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Your future is going to have a church in it.
You're going to help start achurch.
You're going to help the peoplethat are less fortunate.
That sounds like a prettyrobust career in life.
Yeah, that's very exciting.
And are you going to teachGod's word to everybody?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, I might.
Maybe I'll start a home thing.
Children come and I'll teachthem the word.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, Well, you're already.
I feel like you're alreadyprepped.
I feel like everyone listeningto this is just going to come to
like it's called, like I don'tknow.
I don't know.
Let's say like you know,religious training with Lizzie.
What do you think about thatsomething would that be?
Like you know, everyone couldbring the like six-year-olds to
you.
You sit them down, you're likeall right listen up I I don't
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know.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We pretend to play a school because we're into ninjas
and we do like little classesyeah, yeah, like ninja school
yeah, so we train and I've beenhaving really fun with that, so
I feel like they really listento me, except Ethan, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
He'll come around, he'll come around.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Okay, we changed the game now.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
But yeah, I used to teach for the beginners, so let
me ask as a kid in your almostnine-year-old body, you're
looking at life and you'reexperiencing it.
You're, yeah, you know you got.
You get way more hugs from yourdad than you get from your
brothers.
Yeah, all right and um, haveyou ever gotten in trouble?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
yes, I actually have all right, what?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
how does, how do your parents, how do your parents
handle?
Handle you being disobedient?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Discipline.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Discipline, all right .
What does discipline look liketo you?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
The spanking arms.
You go to a wall and you putyour arms up for two to five
minutes, or something like that.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And does that make you go.
You know what?
I should probably rethink mybad choices, yeah probably or
time out or stuff like that whenyou do a time out.
Did that ever trigger a tantrum, or yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
but I was like earlier yeah, yeah, not anymore,
because you have so long agolike I can barely even remember
when I was like two, two, allright, definitely not recently
at all, definitely not two.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Oh wow, it sounds like your home, would you say
like my home is happy.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, that's so awesome.
Sometimes that's very real.
All right, so your dad has aworkshop in the garage.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Do you ever get to help him, or do you just have to
sit there and watch and be likenot hurting yourself?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
No, I help him gloss and sometimes sand.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Sand the little table .
I helped him build our kitchentable and our coffee table.
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
So, yeah, okay, You've been trained up to be
very much a Proverbs 31 woman.
I can see that very clearly.
Well, listen, hey, if you'rewatching and you're needing some
more insight for Lizzie, makesure you text in your questions
for Lizzie here at 737-231-0605.
We will have Lizzie reviewthose and we'll bring her back
on the show to answer all yourchild rearing questions, because
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clearly she has beenprofessionally trained.
Lizzie, any of the thoughtsthat you want everybody out
there listening across theentire globe to know?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't know.
Know you grow up with threebrothers?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
grow up with three, grow up with three brothers.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
That's the answer hard, but it's also very fun at
the time.
Okay, because you get to learnhow to fight good job, lizzie
you do.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
You've learned how to do hard things.
Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
and I'm still working on being content with it.
But yeah, and also you know theearlier question that you asked
me before we started thepodcast, like how do you feel
having a pastor as a dad?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, what's a pastor as a dad like?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, it's very fun, but it's also hard sometimes
because he has lots of work andsometimes we don't get to see
him a lot because he has to goto work.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
But he's, but you know, all day long he's just
preaching the word to people,essentially.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
And I'm very glad about that because he he helps
us with our family and I'm soglad he's a pastor.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, it's the best, isn't it?
Yeah, hey, thanks so much forwatching From our house to yours
.
Have an awesome week of worship.
And welcome back to Pastor Plex Podcast Special
Edition, here with none otherthan Pastor Holland Gregg from
the Eastside.
Welcome, pastor Holland.
Hello.
And then also Lizzie Gregg,member at Eastside Community
Church, also my daughter, alsoHolland's daughter, and we're
going to talk about what exactlyis going on in the Greg home to
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produce a child like this.
So, lizzie, let's talk aboutwhat it's like being.
Are you almost nine or are younine?
I'm almost nine.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, I'm almost nine , okay, so talk to me about
being almost nine in the Greghousehold and talk to me about
like how much you guys studiedthe Bible.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I don't know, you don't know, you don't know the
hours.
Do you wake up?
Do you talk about the Bible?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, when we wake up early, dad reads bible verses to
us what bible verse like.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Does he just open up the bible, or he?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
has a daily journal, like a daily bible, so we read
from that, and then yeah, andthen also, what else is it?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
we do this devotional is this in the morning?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
no, not dimensional a challenge.
Is this in the morning?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, not devotional A challenge?
Yes, this is in the morning.
What time do you wake up?
10, 11?
, 9.
Okay, 10.
All right, so you wake up about9 in the morning.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This is new.
The sleeping in is reallypost-time change.
They haven't adjusted yet.
That's good.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Gets your beauty sleep.
What time do you?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
go to bed?
Well, I stay up reading theBible and the Little Pilgrim's
Progress.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, of course you do.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And then I just fall asleep, at any time at least.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Like 7 pm, no 8 pm, no Later, later 9?
No 10?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
11.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Like 11.30.
All right, that makes sense.
Okay, good, so you're readingbooks about Jesus Pilgrim's
Progress, the Bible.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is it like an hour of reading your Bible every night?
Well, I usually read, like one,two to three chapters of
Pilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Can you tell us what Pilgrim's Progress is about?
Is it like the Pilgrim'sProgress Junior, or is it the
legit Pilgrim's Progress?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's Little Pilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, Little Pilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So it's like a kid's version.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, the kid's version.
All right, I was going to sayif you were reading the actual
Paul Bunyan I'd be like dang, weare way behind.
All right, go ahead.
Talk to us about LittlePilgrim's Progress.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, it's an example of the Bible.
So there's this part where hecomes to a cross and he has this
like heavy backpack on him.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He said it's like he said, he's coming to a cross.
Is he coming to a cross road oris he coming to an actual cross
?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, cross, okay.
So he says it's his burden, thelittle heavy backpack.
So he comes to the cross andthe backpack falls off.
So that's an example of whenyou come to Jesus like you don't
have, like your burden goesaway, or something like that
yeah and then yeah goes away, orsomething like that, yeah and
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then yeah.
But then it's like there's likechallenges and more examples of
god, of the bible and god sowho's the main character?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
little christian, little christian.
And so then he meets differentpeople along the way.
Who are some of the charactersthat he meets along the way that
either give him problems orhelp him out?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
well, there's, there's these two cats oh, two
cats and they were trying tomeet the king too, but they
don't.
They don't really like theywouldn't go to the right way
which way they go well, theywent a different way.
Instead of the gate becausethere was a gate to this little
thing that they tell you whatpath you have to go- yeah.
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And little Christian knew whatthe path was.
But they didn't.
So they took the two wrongroads and they end up suffering.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So that's what you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Little Christian's a bunny, right?
Yes, oh, he's a bunny, he's ananimal.
Okay, that makes.
So that's what you LittleChristian's a bunny right?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, oh, he's a bunny .
All those little animals.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, that makes sense it's like an animal, not a
human Right.
Okay, so how in your life haveyou sort of seen yourself as
little?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Christian walking the road to find the king Well,
getting baptized.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We Well, I don't know .
I just felt like it was walkingthe path to another step, to
jesus yeah so I just felt likelittle christian when I did that
.
Well, I haven't, I haven't gotthe book when I got baptized.
But now I just think back ofthat and I just feel myself.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh, I love it.
When did you get baptized?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Last year.
Right, yeah, yeah, last year.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And what was your favorite part about that?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Did you feel any different?
Was there, like you know, youwent into the water.
You're like, or was it justlike?
This is a cool experience, nice.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just I, or was it just like.
This is a cool experience, nice.
I just, I don't know.
Well, it was awesome to begetting baptized and taking
another step to jesus, so Ireally felt proud of myself
after that, yeah and yeah, sotell me about how you know most
kids that grow up in pastor'shomes.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They haven't really done anything that bad.
So how did you know that youwere a sinner?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, my dad told me Well, and I just know it because
I how do you know it?
Because I sin and I'm notperfect.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What was the one thing you did wrong?
I did a lot of stuff, but Likewere you not nice to your
parents?
What was the thing that sticksout to you?
It was like the thing that youknew you needed to change, and
then you did, and it changedbecause you met Jesus.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I used to do tantrums like massive tantrums.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like how big a tantrum are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I will not tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, I'm just curious.
There's a lot of fans out therethat have fans of Pastor Plex
podcast dozens, I would say thatalso have children and they
tend to throw tantrums.
So can we, can you tell us whatyou're thinking in the middle
of a tantrum?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't know what I'm thinking is it just like?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
you're blinded by the anger and you're just like is
that kind of it?
Yeah, kind of okay, so what wasyou know in?
In psychological world theycall it a trigger, like what
triggered you, what set you offto like lose your mind?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
um well, I don't know , I'm just, I'm very sensitive,
so sometimes it just hits me andI'm like I need to get this
done, or like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're sensitive, yes , and you need to get things
done.
Get what done, yeah.
What do you need to get done?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Get stuff done.
That's no, but like it feels.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Is it one of your brothers that makes you upset
and angry, to put you in atantrum?
Or is it your mom saying youhave to obey and you're like I
don't want to obey?
What's the thing?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's both, but yeah, a lot of times it's my brothers,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But when you're saying I just have to get this
done, I think you meant.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But there are times when youwould say I done I think you
meant.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But there are times when youwould say like I feel like I
just have to be mad, like I'm soI can't, oh, oh, so the have to
get this done is not like, uh,I'm gonna put away the dishes.
It's, it's I need to rage.
Is that kind of?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
what happens?
I guess so, but after then I'mlike so sorry and I just, but
now I am done so is that?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
uh, that's good.
So you know, one of the fruitsof the spirit is self-control.
So do you feel like the fruitof the spirit of self-control is
in you more now that you'vereceived jesus as your savior?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
yes, there is this thing called thunder pause.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh, talk to me about what.
What's a thunder pause?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
so a thunder pause is when you know how the storm it
gets like really, but then youcount down.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You mean like when you see the lightning.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, and then the thunder.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Then there's like a pause, one, two, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So it's like there's a storm with your anger and you
count, you take a deep breathfor the lightning, I think, and
then you count until, and thenyou do it a lot until you feel
calmed down and ready to saywhat's right instead of just
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letting your anger fly.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, so how?
So when let's say that youforget about the thunder pause,
do your mom or dad they go,thunder pause, thunder pause,
like.
And you're like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Uh, no, no, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And you're like oh yeah, no, no, it doesn't work
like that.
I just Do you count foryourself.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, you count in your head and then it really
helps, because that's Mommyhelps remind you of Thunderpaws,
right?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh yeah, sometimes, because that was from y'all's
gentleness, it was a.
Emotional or challenge.
No, it's from a book, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But the Thunder Paws was today.
It's like taking a deep breath.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So was that today's lesson.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was also from a book they read maybe like a week
or two ago, and it's calledThunder Paws.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's from the library .
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh, I love that.
How often do you go to thelibrary?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, once a month, I think.
But we also get theseread-alouds that we read Like
there's like the book reads toyou.
So we listen to those everynight and they help us fall
asleep.
So we don't go that oftenanymore, only if we get bored of
the read-aloud books and wewant new ones.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, okay, so talk to me now.
So in the morning you do adevotional, Is it devotional
with your dad?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I think it's.
No, it's with my mom.
I think it's not a devotional,I think it's like a challenge.
It's called the gentlenesschallenge.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, so all right, hold on.
So a 30 day gentlenesschallenge?
Water over your head and golike I'm a big shot, and then
you go and be gentle to people.
No, oh, what do you do for agentlest challenge?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
My mom reads it from her phone, so there's verses and
then it goes.
Someone wait, someone goes wait.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh, you're trying to remember the verse.
Give me the general gist of theverse.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So um they just read a verse off of this.
There's someone who writes itthat has 10 children.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
What 10 children?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, and she just writes about things that can
help you.
One of them was don't let youranger fly, or just think of a
verse like kindness and calm, soyou think of that while you're
doing that and then it helps you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So you go, like you get angry, you go.
Love is patient, love is kind.
Love is patient, love is kind.
I'm ready.
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think you're getting all the things wrong?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
No, is that not what you're doing?
Oh, sorry, Okay.
No, is that not what you do?
Oh, sorry, okay.
So you, I'm just trying tofigure out how, in the
gentleness challenge, how do youmove from the I'm about ready
to rage to like I'm ready tohave a conversation, like that's
the, but what I'm trying to see?
The dozens, the listeners allover the globe are wanting to
know, lizzie, how do you get toa place of self-control by the
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power of the Holy Spirit from aplace of anger and rage.
So you say that to yourself, doyou like?
What's the process?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I don't, Well some.
Let me think of something Well.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You did a thunder pause like yesterday or
something right?
Didn't you get mad and youstepped away, went to your room.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I didn't you get mad and you you stepped away
, went to your room, or I did.
You declare like thunder pause.
And then you like leave.
No, okay, go ahead.
What do you do?
Because that would be kind ofcool.
I could like to be an actionshow and, like you know, like a
christian action show.
Like you have this family'rereally angry and all of a sudden
he goes Thunder Paws and thenhe walks away, calms down, and
then he comes back, says I'mready, because you get it like a
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thunder clap.
You should try that next time,all right.
So the Thunder Paws happens.
You don't say Thunder Paws.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, because when you're, when you're angry, it's
hard to like get excited or belike really funny.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, because you're like really in the zone it's
called being emotionally flooded.
When you're filled up with allthese emotions, you have a
tendency to fight, flight,freeze or fake.
Those are the big four f's.
What you do.
What is your tendency?
To fight or flight?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, I think flight, because I would, just I would I
used to just like not let it goand I would just like I need to
do this, I need to get it done.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, fight that's more.
Fight, yes, raging yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But I used to do that .
But now I'm like I I learnedthe thunder pause, so I'm doing
the thunder pause and I feelcalm and I walk away because it
takes.
And then I think of what to saynice and then I go back and I
say like that hurt my feelingsor or.
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This is an example.
So I did the Thunderpaws todaybecause Ethan took one of my
Lego pieces and I took aThunderpaws because I was
getting really mad and I thoughtof what to say.
But I didn't leave because Ithought of what to say and I
said Ethan, could you pleasegive this back?
And he wouldn't listen.
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So I tried one more time and Isaid it really calm.
Then I went to mom and I saidcould you please help?
And she said yes, and then Owenalso helped.
He found some more Lego piecesand we made a trade and yeah,
and I got my Lego pieces backand everything was fine wow,
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that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, that's incredible.
Alright, so now talk to me,lizzy, about the day you're
starting off the morning.
You've gotten up at 9 o'clock,ready fresh for the day.
You've done your devotionalright.
Yes, you've had a gentlenesschallenge.
Then what do you do next?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
well, I usually play with my brothers Mm-hmm, and
today I gave them some candy andthey were very happy about that
.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You gave them candy.
Yes, what candy did you givethem?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Gum Starbucks what.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Starbucks yeah or.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Starburst, oh Starburst.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Because I was like man, you just made a quick run
to Starbucks and brought us acoffee.
I'm sure that would have goneover really, really well, all
right, I mixed those two up.
What's your favorite flavor ofStarburst?
I'm a red guy myself, you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I think the yellow or the red Really Yellow.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, a little lemony , a little flavor.
Okay, so then do you guys're?
You do homeschool.
You used to do uh public school, but you're doing homeschool
now.
So talk to me about uh.
After your mom teaches you,we'll get we'll get into
homeschool stuff in a sec, butyou, throughout the day, um, you
learn stuff from your mom.
Yes, um, does your dad everhave to teach you stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
yeah, we have these daddy days.
It's all it's um.
Every Monday, my mom goes outto this Pilates class.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Good Pilates.
That's good it's.
It's fun.
Everyone needs some stretching.
Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And dad stays with us and we do school with him.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Is he hardcore?
Sometimes he doesn't do thatgood.
Oh really Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, sometimes he doesn't do that.
Good, oh really, okay, yeah, sowe can cut that part out.
Mom said that herself.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
She said with reading , that's good you know, we like
authentic community around herethis is great, all right.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So now daddy wants to teach things that are
extracurricular things sometimesto memorize the words and they
and they took that reallyserious and they memorized it.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
No, but then nope, okay.
No, we're missing context here,that's what you did.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Wyatt told mom, and mom was.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wyatt was not, so you got a stitch.
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, what happened was , I was teaching them reading.
We're practicing reading somethings, yeah, and after they
finish sounding out each word, Iwould say now you have to read
it again until you can say thewhole sentence without sounding
out a word.
Nice and so, but that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I lost the translation.
Maybe he thought he had tomemorize it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And yeah, and then he kind of came off that that
wasn't what I was doing.
It's all good now, we allcleared it up.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It teaches the test, not how to learn.
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Everything's fine.
I'm great.
I'm a great teacher, I'm agreat teacher.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right.
So, okay, let's get back to atthe end of like the school day,
when your daddy comes back.
Let's talk about the eveningspiritual routine.
So how do you, when does yourdad do the devote?
He does one in the morning,Does he do another at night?
When's the point where you guysget together and sing?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, well, we do that every night.
Every night and we go to thepiano or who plays the piano, my
dad, and then we all sing aworship song.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
What song do you sing or what's one of your favorites
?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think Sanctuary.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But we sing that right.
Is that Lord?
Prepare me to sing, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But and then sometimes he goes into our rooms
and I come in too, and then he,we all sing some.
And then one night we did thislittle instrument one.
So we all grabbed some littlethings.
We all grabbed things likecards, cards, not cards, okay,
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never mind.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Cards that make a noise.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
No, yeah, like you do .
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, that's what makes the noise.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And then we would like there's little drums, and
then we would pat the drums anddad would play the guitar, wyatt
would hit a book, ethan wouldshake a chain.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
A rattler yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And then we would all sing a song.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
My chains are gone.
I've been so free no.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, it was like what was it.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think it was something like Nothing but the
blood.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, I think it was nothing but the blood.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
song.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, sing it for me.
Give me a quick little.
How's that go?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh, okay, nothing but the blood of Jesus, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Precious.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh, precious is the flow.
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
What do?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
you like about that song.
I don't really know, but it'sjust.
I mean, it's just a good song.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, what's it about ?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I never really knew that though.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, so that song is about the precious flow of the
blood of Jesus.
Is that what makes us white assnow?
Like?
What does white as snow mean?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
On the inside.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Oh well, Pure.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes.
So remember how Jesus' blood isreally red, and if you got
blood all over you, that wouldnot make you cleaner.
But because it's Jesus, it'sdifferent and he has the power
to make you clean on the inside,and that's why you sing the
songs.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, his blood washes away our what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Sin.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah so good Sing about his forgiveness and his
first.
Like read a scripture together,then pray together and sing.
Is that kind of how that thatgenerally goes?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
yeah, I think so right yeah, sometimes we'll do
like we've been doing thecatechism a lot lately.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, tell me about the catechism.
What's that?
Well, what's a catechism?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
we have this book and we practice it every night.
So there's this book withpictures and questions and
answers okay so we would readthree to five questions every
night, but a lot, Um.
So we would read them and wewould, we would practice them,
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we would, we would copy, wewould repeat uh dad, cause he
was reading it.
So we would do that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So he asked the question.
You repeat the question.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Uh, yes, and then he would tell the answer.
Then we would repeat the answerand sometimes we would try to
do it all by ourself and hewould ask this question.
We had to answer the.
We had to answer the answer, Doyou?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
know any.
Do you have any of thosequestions off the?
I mean that might be a hardquestion Like do you know any of
the like?
Is there one?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
like you know who is God, or something like that that
you have to answer, or is itlike what kind of questions is
it?
Well, there is one that I thinkI remember, but it's man.
What is it?
I think it's like what are thethree things that God gives us?
Baptism, wait, no, what are thetwo things?
Two ordinances maybe?
Yep, what are the two things?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Two ordinances maybe, Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So the two ordinance are baptism and the Lord's
Supper.
Nice, so that's.
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
but what about?
Who made you?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh, and then God made me and all things.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, and why did he make you?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
For his glory.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Mm-hmm, or what about what's the one we did the other
night?
The three talked about Jesus asthree things.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I think it's all P's.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Two of them are P's yes Prophet Raw.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Pro Prophet, prophet Uh-huh and priest Right yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Remember we sang nothing but the blood, yes, and
we said which one is nothing butthe blood about?
Prophet, priest or king?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think it was prophet priest good.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Lizzie does a great job so, lizzie, like here's the
real question.
Yes, at some point somebody isnot paying attention.
Somebody has to be punchingeach other as you're trying to
listen to your dad.
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, it would be Ethan, Wyatt and Owen.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, so not you.
You are pretty much the angelchild of the family.
Three boys, not her, yeah, soyou know I literally hear them
every night punching people.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
They share a room and she's in the room next to them.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, and there's this hole in my wall because
Wyatt pierced it, so I can hearthem from that hole in the wall.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Do you ever stick your ear up to the wall?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And I talk to them, sometimes hole in the wall.
Do you ever stick your ear upto?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
the wall?
Yes, and I talk to them.
Sometimes I'm like guys cry intown oh wow, do you ever tattle
yeah sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Okay, um, I mean I have to tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh, that's what I appreciate.
Someone has to say something,alright, so okay.
So talk to me about, like, howlong does it take to do the
reading, the praying and thesinging?
Is that like a couple hours?
Is that like— no, a coupleminutes.
Oh, a couple minutes, all right, so about like five minutes,
ten minutes?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Maybe how much yeah, like ten or—.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Sometimes we do shorter if it's really late at
night.
Sometimes we'll do longer ifthe kids yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Do you like the longer ones or the shorter ones?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yes, I like the longer ones, because there's
this thing Friday nights.
Sometimes we do Friday movienights, but I think we've only
done this two times, but there'sthis like Friday Bible night.
So we would all come in theboys' room, so we would all I
would get a blanket and a pillow.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is it all?
Three boys in one room?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, okay, okay, we would all.
I would get a blanket and apillow, so my dad would read
lots of like chapters of theBible.
So he would read like we wouldpick a book of the Bible and we
would read it, um, you'd pick abook of the bible and we would
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read it, um, and it was like anadventure or story one.
So we would all listen to thatand we would.
Sometimes we would fall asleep.
There was this the first timewe all fall asleep, because that
that's when I was sharing theroom with them, okay, but then
we didn't stay up that late.
Well, well, yeah, okay, butthen we all went.
So we would read Bible, bible,book, book of the Bible, and
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that's what I really like, andthen, well, for like a couple
hours, yeah, until they fallasleep.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And until Ethan fell asleep.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So they listen the whole time.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yes, because it's the Bible and they like.
Well.
Sometimes they make a littlebit of distractions, but either
way, we just read the Bible andwe all fall.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
We sometimes fall asleep and yeah, okay, so tell
me about.
I think I saw you writing outPsalm 23.
Are you trying to memorizePsalm 23?
Yeah, you can show us?
Yeah, right there, you show thecamera right there.
All right, so you wrote outPsalm 23.
Great penmanship, by the way.
So tell me about what promptedyou to write Psalm 23.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, it really sticks out to me because I
really like it and it's one thatI've known for a long time.
So I do want to memorize it.
I remember some of it, but Istill need to.
I would, when I was writing itdown, I would close the book for
some passages, then I would tryto write it down, but then I
would check if I got it rightand then sometimes I forgot
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stuff.
So I would look at the Bible,then I would close it because I
know it now, and then I wouldwrite it down.
Wow, so yeah.
That's really great I reallywant to memorize this so I can
quote it to myself at night.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Or I can just read it , but I really want to memorize
it, so I can quote it if I don'thave my Bible.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right, right, yeah, let's say persecution comes.
They burn all the Bibles andnow you have the Bible on your
heart, you're going to hideGod's Word in your heart that
you may not sin against Him.
Good, all right.
So this is really fun, allright.
So now talk to me about whenyou were in public school.
What was that like?
So now talk to me about whenyou were in public school.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
What was that like?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
It was hard.
What was hard Was the academicshard.
Were the kids hard.
Were the teachers hard.
What was hard?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I loved my teacher what?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
was her name.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
She was a Christian.
Her name is Miss.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh nice.
So she now comes to our churchbecause I invited her, because
you invited her.
Yes, you're like a littlemissionary, all right.
So you were at school.
How did you say to her Miss,it's time.
How did you work up the courageto do that?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, I just felt like she needed to come to a
church because I knew she was aChristian and yeah, how did you
know?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Did she tell you she was a Christian?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
No, I just knew, because her kind heart and how
she deals with things.
So I, um, I still have thislike church card in my hand, so
I gave it to her and I said um,or I said something like would
you like to come to church withus?
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Or we're at the ecc.
And I gave her the card.
I think that's what I said.
I said something, some,something like that um, but,
yeah, and I invited her tochurch.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So I was she a young person, old person, or to you,
they're all he was like 40 okayum.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
so she came to our church and she is now a member.
She just became a member lastsunday, nice, and she is now a
member.
She just became a member lastSunday, nice, and she is now
teaching our dance for Easter.
She has become a big part ofour church and I'm really proud
of that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Wow, you should be proud of that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So I invited another person to our church.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It was someone at the Y that we go to.
I think her name is Arco Arco.
Nice, she came to our church.
Who's that?
It was someone at the Y that wego to, I think her name is Arco
.
Arco nice she came to ourchurch on Kids Sunday.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So what's Kids Sunday ?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Kids Sunday is a thing where kids get to go well,
elementary kids get to go, orelementary and middle school.
So we all go to Kids Sunday.
There's games, there's Bibleverses, there's activities and
we have really fun doing it andit's just a time?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Is that during the service, or is that?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's during the whole church.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So the whole church is focused on the kids.
So you sing two songs and theneverything's like alright, kids,
we're now doing this game.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
No, they go and do like a separate children's
ministry.
Oh, got it, got it.
Normally the elementary kidsare in the church with us.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So after the two songs, announcement comes on.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Who does the announcements?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Miss Nadine.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
So she does the announcements and on Kids Sunday
she said it's Kids Sunday, nowgo.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did everyone cheer.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, the kids did Okay and then, she, and on Kids
Sunday she said it's Kids Sunday, now go.
Did everyone cheer?
Well, the kids did Okay, andthen she said, all right, let's
go.
It's Kids Sunday, bye, okay,but then something like that,
it's just funny, okay.
But then we would go, and therewas one experiment that I
remember.
Well, I remember a lot of them,so I'm going to tell you one of
them.
It's a balloon and a candle.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
A balloon and a candle.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So a balloon.
His name is Jack.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
We're giving the balloon a name, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
How about Jack Jack, all right, or Bob?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Which one you have to choose.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Bob All right Bob.
Okay.
So Bob walks along and he comesto the candle and the candle
represents darkness and evilness.
So he comes around a challenge,which is the candle.
So he's not.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Is the candle lit or is it just it's lit?
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Okay.
So we went all back around andit was just an empty balloon.
You would hold it above thecandle and it would pop.
So he was hurt, like when we goand when man.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, so when we when you jump in a fire.
Oh, so we go there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
But now Bob comes back with water in him.
The water represents the joy ofthe Lord.
So he comes to the candle andhe gets a little burned, just a
little, and he doesn't pop.
They tested that out, so it'sgood.
So the water wouldn't spill.
Yeah, so he would do that, theywould do that and they would
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hold it above and they wouldtell us that if you have the joy
of the Lord in your soul, thatyou would just get a little
burned, just a little hurt, andyou wouldn't just pop and get
really injured by the sin.
So that's what I remember.
Then there's this, another oneGrab a paper towel.
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There was hearts.
It was a big heart, three littlehearts on that side, then three
other little hearts on thatside.
We would color in the hearts,just the big one.
Then we would put it in a cupof water and we would stay there
for a few minutes and we wouldsee the redness, the red of the
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heart, spreading to the otherones whoa so it represented that
.
It represent that um our loveor god's love can spread, or
yeah, yeah, so it spreads otherhearts through you.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So tell me, like that's wild that you remember
all of that.
Yeah, what you know, there'ssome parents out there that feel
like going to church isn't thatimportant, okay, or they'd
rather you know, listen, they'vegot important things, they got
sports games, they got stuffgoing on, but why do you feel
it's important to make the mostimportant thing going to church?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Because church is where you get baptized, you come
to Jesus and you hear the word.
You can also listen to itonline.
But that also you can alsolisten to it online.
But it's also great because youcan come to church and you can
actually be there in realityinstead of just watching it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
So you can come there and you can meet other people.
We have this meeting greet.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
We all go meet other people.
Is that scary for you, or doyou love it?
Some, well, I don't know liketell me what you're feeling.
So like, all right, because wehave that time.
Hey, everybody go and shakehands with your neighbor and ask
him some some fun question isthat your favorite?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
um, well, sometimes I I don't really do it because
I'm a little scared to meet newpeople, but I sometimes I go up
with the people I know and tellthem how, how are you doing?
But now I feel like I shouldwork on that and I should be a
little braver and when it'smeeting greed, I should come out
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and meet new people that's sohard it is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's challenging, but achievable, yes, so all right.
So what if there's a grumpyface?
You ever seen a grumpy face?
Yes, all right.
So how?
What do you?
What would your advice be to aalmost nine year old who was
about to approach a grumpy face?
What would you tell them about?
Like overcoming fear and justsaying hi and being gentle.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, I would tell them that it's worth it because
I haven't done it.
So I don't really know what tosay because I'm still working on
that.
So this Sunday I really want towork on that.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Okay, so this Sunday, when you come back on the show,
you're going to tell us aboutyour move from scared to brave.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, I'll probably wake up early on Tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, before 10, probably good.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I woke up at like 4 to 5 today, so, and then I
couldn't go.
Okay, it's a long story.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
All right, yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You want me to tell it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I don't believe it's that long Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I guess it's short.
So I woke up at five and Icouldn't fall asleep until 530.
So I listened to a book.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Which book?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Called Arusha and the End of Time.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Arusha and the End of Time Arusha.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Arusha on the end of time.
What's?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
that Arusha on the end of time, arusha.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Arusha, arusha, arusha, arusha.
On the end of time.
It doesn't matter.
Okay, so somebody's name on theend of time.
Yes, got it.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, so I was listening to that and I couldn't
fall asleep because I was like,and everyone was asleep so I
couldn't, like tell him anythingbecause I don't want to wake
him up.
So I would come into my room, Iwould listen in stare at the
wall for an hour.
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And then you fell back asleepeventually, and then I fell back
to sleep but I heard the dooropen and I was like what is that
?
And it was my dad.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Aw that's nice, waiting for my meeting.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And then you slept in until 10 after that.
Yes, I slept in until 10.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Nice, so it sounds like good sleep, but no, it's
not.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Okay, all right, so let's talk about.
What is it that when you thinkabout, when you grow up, like
what is like the purpose of life.
Have you thought through that?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I want to become I don't know.
Well, I want to go to a church.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You want to go to a church?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Why do you want to go to a church Like what about
church?
You really love church?
Yes, I do.
What do you want to go to achurch Like what about church?
You really love church?
Yes, I do.
What about it that you reallylove?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, people can come to Jesus, to there.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And we can hear the word and experience stuff and we
can meet new people and makefriends Nice.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Oh, that's wow.
Yeah, so part of your future isgoing to church.
What else?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I also want.
Maybe I can.
I can also plant one, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You want to be a church planter.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I also want to do a lot of stuff, but I also want to
become like.
I want to give to the poor.
Yeah, you tell me more, you'retelling me like in the car every
time, and I would give.
When I would see a sign withpeople, I would give them some
money or some food or anythinglike that.
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So I really want to help thehomeless.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Do you ever have homeless people come to church?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, I don't think so, have we do.
We don't think so, have we wedo.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
We don't point them out, okay All right.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
If there's anyone generally with probably a huge
backpack, they might be homeless.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So it's not like you want to judge them for it, but
no, okay, but there is this onethat we really got to know.
It's, oh, homeless person.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
His name is Adam right.
Oh, how'd you meet him?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, he was on the street and we gave him a bag of
coins and socks Nice, and welearned his name.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
When was that?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I think it was like a year ago.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So you still remember Adam from a year ago.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We used to drive by him like every day and talk to
him and he was that's cool.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
How did you get to know.
So you how.
What was the first initialconversation for you?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
well, I gave him.
I think we just started outwell I already.
I love him.
I like I want to help peopleyeah so I saw him and I was like
, do we have some coins in thecar?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
yeah, yeah, so you initiated it.
You're like we need to helpthat guy.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yes, I do this with every everything.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
And did your mom ever go?
We can't right now because wehave other things to do.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
No, no, no.
Um, I think we just like shedoes.
She doesn't have anything inthe car that we can give, but
sometimes we do that.
But I think it was yesterday.
We drive by one and we gave him.
It was homeless and hungry, sowe gave him a chewy bar that was
left in our car.
We have a messy car okay.
It's still helping.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
It was very.
No, I'm not, that was great.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Very sweet Lizzie.
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It was fine.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Good.
So in my head I was thinking ofa chewy bar that had been Not
like a chewed up bar.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
No, it was a chewy bar.
It was in the package.
Still.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Now we're together, okay, fully with you.
Okay, so you gave him a chewybar and he enjoyed that.
Yeah, was this guy grateful?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
yeah, um was this guy grateful.
Yes, he was like he um.
He said thank you, god blessyou oh that was nice.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So we, yeah, and so back to adam.
So sorry, back to adam.
Focus, chris, sorry we gave him.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
We.
I said do we have any coins inthe car?
So we, we gave him some coins,and then the next day I said how
about we go and buy himsomething like some socks or
some shoes?
So we went to the Walmart, andI don't have to be specific,
though, but we went to Walmartand got him some socks, and we
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put some coins in there that Ihad, and little snacks in there,
I think.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
So all the coins that you had?
Is that what you got like frombirthdays, or change from stuff
you bought, or I just I workedfor it.
Oh, okay, so tell me what.
How'd you work for it?
Like what's your job?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Mowed the lawn, did the dishes, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Just the normal everyday chore stuff.
You get like an allowance or isit like per activity?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, I just.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, per activity.
Yeah, so you were thinking Imade some money, now I can go
give it to Adam or whoever.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yes, so I gave the bag of socks, a snack and some
coins to him and he was verygrateful.
So we would go visit himsometimes because he was right
by this place called taco belltaco bell.
Yes, oh yeah but now we don'tsee him a lot.
I think he got like himself,like a little homeless thing.
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I think it was home, but Idon't know he got.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
He's no longer homeless.
I don't he might be homed Idon't know he's no longer
homeless.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't know he might be homed.
I don't know.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
But yeah, so I just remember him and that's the
first thing I got.
So maybe your life might be allabout ministry to those who are
less fortunate.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah, I think so.
You want to be in church, youwant to maybe help start a
church.
Start a church.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And give to the homeless.
Give to the homeless, give tothe homeless.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
What about?
Where are you going to live?
Are you going to stay by mommyand daddy?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, wherever God tells me to.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Okay, nice, very good About.
How many kids are you going tohave?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I don't know God's choice.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Wow, amen I have no idea.
Wow, amen, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Wow, you're big into God's sovereignty.
What?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
about pets.
You can have dogs, cats, exoticanimals.
Oh, a hamster, a hamster, yeah,we don't allow that.
A dog, a puppy like a little.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
You should ask Miss Adrienne what happened to her
hamster.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Everyone has a traumatic hamster story.
Guaranteed, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I have a hamster, the one that she bought like a
couple years ago.
I have a friend her her hamsterdied.
Her name is lanai, but yeah,they buried her backyard,
backyard burial I don't know thewhole story, okay, but I got to
, yeah, so yeah, so so yourfuture your is going to have
children in it.
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Your future is going to have a church in it.
You're going to help start achurch.
You're going to help the peoplethat are less fortunate.
That sounds like a prettyrobust career in life.
Yeah, that's very exciting.
And are you going to teachGod's word to everybody?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, I might.
Maybe I'll start a home thing.
Children come and I'll teachthem the word.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, Well, you're already.
I feel like you're alreadyprepped.
I feel like everyone listeningto this is just going to come to
like it's called, like I don'tknow.
I don't know.
Let's say like you know,religious training with Lizzie.
What do you think about thatsomething would that be?
Like you know, everyone couldbring the like six-year-olds to
you.
You sit them down, you're likeall right listen up I I don't
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know.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We pretend to play a school because we're into ninjas
and we do like little classesyeah, yeah, like ninja school
yeah, so we train and I've beenhaving really fun with that, so
I feel like they really listento me, except Ethan, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
He'll come around, he'll come around.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Okay, we changed the game now.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
But yeah, I used to teach for the beginners, so let
me ask as a kid in your almostnine-year-old body, you're
looking at life and you'reexperiencing it.
You're, yeah, you know you got.
You get way more hugs from yourdad than you get from your
brothers.
Yeah, all right and um, haveyou ever gotten in trouble?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
yes, I actually have all right, what?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
how does, how do your parents, how do your parents
handle?
Handle you being disobedient?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Discipline.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Discipline, all right .
What does discipline look liketo you?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
The spanking arms.
You go to a wall and you putyour arms up for two to five
minutes, or something like that.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And does that make you go.
You know what?
I should probably rethink mybad choices, yeah probably or
time out or stuff like that whenyou do a time out.
Did that ever trigger a tantrum, or yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
but I was like earlier yeah, yeah, not anymore,
because you have so long agolike I can barely even remember
when I was like two, two, allright, definitely not recently
at all, definitely not two.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Oh wow, it sounds like your home, would you say
like my home is happy.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, that's so awesome.
Sometimes that's very real.
All right, so your dad has aworkshop in the garage.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Do you ever get to help him, or do you just have to
sit there and watch and be likenot hurting yourself?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
No, I help him gloss and sometimes sand.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Sand the little table .
I helped him build our kitchentable and our coffee table.
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
So, yeah, okay, You've been trained up to be
very much a Proverbs 31 woman.
I can see that very clearly.
Well, listen, hey, if you'rewatching and you're needing some
more insight for Lizzie, makesure you text in your questions
for Lizzie here at 737-231-0605.
We will have Lizzie reviewthose and we'll bring her back
on the show to answer all yourchild rearing questions, because
(46:20):
clearly she has beenprofessionally trained.
Lizzie, any of the thoughtsthat you want everybody out
there listening across theentire globe to know?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't know.
Know you grow up with threebrothers?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
grow up with three, grow up with three brothers.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
That's the answer hard, but it's also very fun at
the time.
Okay, because you get to learnhow to fight good job, lizzie
you do.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
You've learned how to do hard things.
Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
and I'm still working on being content with it.
But yeah, and also you know theearlier question that you asked
me before we started thepodcast, like how do you feel
having a pastor as a dad?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, what's a pastor as a dad like?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, it's very fun, but it's also hard sometimes
because he has lots of work andsometimes we don't get to see
him a lot because he has to goto work.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
But he's, but you know, all day long he's just
preaching the word to people,essentially.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
And I'm very glad about that because he he helps
us with our family and I'm soglad he's a pastor.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, it's the best, isn't it?
Yeah, hey, thanks so much forwatching From our house to yours
.
Have an awesome week of worship.
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