October 21, 2024 • 29 mins
What if the signs of the end times are unfolding right before our eyes, and we're not prepared? Pastor Jason Watson and guest Pastor Michael Edds unravel the mysteries of biblical prophecy, bringing to light the astonishing parallels between Biblical, End Time Prophecy and today’s global events in Israel. From the rebirth of Israel in 1948 to modern geopolitical tensions involving Iranian-backed attacks, Pastor Edds offers a compelling perspective on how these occurrences align with biblical scripture. We explore the significance of Israel's prosperity and technological advancements, and their prophetic implications, delving into the urgent reality of these times.
As we journey deeper into these prophetic insights, our conversation shifts to the anticipated spiritual awakening and cleansing within the church—an essential precursor to the end-time harvest. Reflecting on the parable of the wise and foolish virgins, we underscore the importance of spiritual readiness. The discussion extends to the manifestation of the Obadiah War and its connection to prophecies in Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17, contemplating potential events like the destruction of Damascus. We also provide a glimpse into future episodes where we will tackle post-rapture events, including divine judgments. The episode closes with a heartfelt priestly blessing, emphasizing the vital need for peace and grace in these tumultuous times.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
End time prophecy.
How close are we Coming up?
Next on Pastor to Pastor heylook, it's another episode of
Pastor to Pastor.
I'm Pastor Jason Watson andmissing today is Pastor Seth
Odom, but I got a great, greatreplacement it's my pastor,
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pastor Michael Edds, royaltyfrom West Virginia.
How you doing, pastor.
I'm doing good Pastor, jason,how are you?
I'm doing great.
It's so good to have you on.
Look, we're talking about atopic today.
Look, outside of revival.
This is the next big topic I'vealways heard you talk about.
It is something I know.
You have studied and studiedlong and hard, and it's end-time
prophecy.
It's the second coming of Jesusleading up into it, and so I'm
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ready to dig right in.
Let's dig, let's go ahead.
So quick question Now.
I know prophecy talks about thesecond return of Jesus and he
says that no man will know thehour.
But Matthew 24, between 32 and35, talks about when you see and
I'm paraphrasing here when yousee the fig tree budding, you
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know that it's at the door.
So what exactly is that budding?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Matthew 24, the fig tree budding is when Israel
would be reborn as a nation, andthat happened in May 1948.
Yeah, and he said when you seethis happening, you know that
it's near.
His coming is near, even at thedoors.
One thing that really excitedme is that this generation will
not pass away till all things befulfilled.
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The generation that was born in1948 will not pass away till
all these things happen andwe'll see Jesus return.
I was born in 48.
That's my generation, so thatexcites me, excites you.
Yeah, I may be older and dirt,but I'm waiting for Jesus to
come Waiting for Jesus, yeah,yeah, and what do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
let me ask you this what do you think?
Is something I know manyChristians have heard before.
They keep hearing Jesus iscoming.
Jesus is coming.
What would you say?
For you is a definite sign ofthis parable of the fig tree
budding.
Tell me what stands out moretoday than has ever stood out
before.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I've heard that all of my life.
Jesus is coming.
Jesus is coming.
But now I'm seeing with my eyesprophecy come to pass, one of
the prophecies that not onlywould Israel be reborn as a
nation, but the Israeli people,the Jewish people, would return.
When I was just a little fella,there were about 2 million Jews
in Israel.
There are 9 million there nowand that the ancient cities
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would be rebuilt.
I was over there about three orfour years ago.
I was astonished.
Whole cities at one time areskyscrapers, houses and
everything are going up Roadsgoing everywhere.
Israel is one of the topnations in the world in
technology.
All of the major corporationshave branches there.
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She said she would beprosperous, she would be
powerful.
I saw that and it said thedesert would blossom.
Everywhere you look over thereit's like the curse on the
land's been lifted.
I was there in 80.
I thought who in the worldwould fight over this barren
place right four years ago itblew me away.
Everywhere you look there,gardens, there's fruit and um.
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But one of the biggest thingsthat lets us know that it's near
is this when the descendants ofEsau and sometimes it's called
Edom will attack Israel from allsides and they would be allied
by a, by Persia, which ismodern-day Iran.
What's on the news right now?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
yeah, just that yeah, the Iranian proxies are
attacking Israel from Gaza, fromLebanon.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Seven areas.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, all around.
Yeah, that's pretty interesting.
I mean, it's all over the newstoday.
You can't get away from it.
It's talking about Israelfighting wars on pretty much all
fronts.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, the thing that excites me.
As you know, I've studied theseprophecies for years, and the
prophecy of El BBadai talksabout it.
It talks about them attackingIsrael.
The descendants of Esau are theArabic nations there's 240
million and said Israel would be, or the Jewish nation would be,
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a fire and the house of Josepha flame.
A fire and the house of Josepha flame.
Well, the only nation that's.
And if you watch the news, lookin Lebanon, look at what's
happening to Hezbollah, lookwhat's happening to Hamas,
israel's dropping these bombsand it's fire.
And I thought my mercy, I'mseeing this happen, since you
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would be assisted by the houseof Joseph, and I believe that's
the United States.
I believe there are enoughdescendants of the lost tribes
of Israel, the 10 lost tribesthat are here in the United
States.
I believe that's who it is Saidthey would be a flame, the
house of Judah would be a fire,and so it means they're helping
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them at a lesser amount, whichis happening right now.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, okay, so let's go through some of the steps
that we can expect in terms ofseeing the fig tree budding and
the coming I know it talks aboutuntil the son of perdition be
revealed or he set himself up inthe temple.
You want to go through thatjust a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Sure, uh, this war that's taking place.
You know, I shared all theseother prophecies about Israel
being returned, being prosperous, having a mighty army and so
forth and so forth.
But the thing that's got meexcited, this war in the middle
East when Israel was attacked ayear ago in October suddenly.
This war in the Middle Eastwhen Israel was attacked a year
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ago in October, suddenly, and itwas like the Holocaust all over
again and the United Statestried to hold them back.
Well, israel will not be.
They're fighting for theirnational survival Right.
And what Obadiah said that theywould be attacked and they
would be encouraged by Iran it'shappening right now.
Yeah, giving them arms.
She would be encouraged by.
Iran.
It's happening right now.
Yeah, giving them arms.
She would be attacked on allsides, but the prophecy says
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Israel will wipe them out.
That's 240 million Arabicpeople.
That's a lot of people and thisthing is accelerating,
especially with Lebanon andSyria's getting involved.
And those people on the PersianGulf.
I can't think of the littlenation that's sending missiles
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into Israel.
Israel's on the offense.
For the first time in my life,I've seen Israel on the offense.
All these other wars it waswars of survival, trying to
fight them back the 1967 war,the Yom Kippur War, I think 72.
Those were defensive wars.
Now she's on the offense and Ithought my these prophecies have
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to be happening.
What's going to happen?
She's going to defeat all thesenations around her.
I was reading in I believe it'sIsaiah 17, and in Jeremiah 49,
syria will get involved.
Damascus is one of the mostancient cities on earth never
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been destroyed.
That city will be totally wipedout.
It says it'll be uninhabitable.
Right, it will never beinhabited again.
Their government will be wipedout.
Their army will be wiped out.
It said fearful noise orcommotion would come from the
sea.
Well, the Israeli Navy is goingto be shooting missiles there
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Right now.
They say they're going toattack Damascus because there's
a lot of the Iranian weaponsthere and the Iranian government
is the government.
There is a puppet governmentfor Iran.
And then these prophecies go onIsrael will wipe out these
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Arabic nations, she'll defeatall of them in Lebanon, she'll
destroy this nation of Syria.
All of these nations Jordan,saudi Arabia all of them will
get involved and when she does,she'll have a period of peace.
Now, the thing that got meexcited about how close it is
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there are three nations willform an alliance.
That's Turkey, iran and Russia.
Well, israel's going to hitIran pretty hard, probably knock
out a lot of her military bases, set her back good ways For a
period of time, it said, israelwill have a period of peace.
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This coalition of three nationsIsrael, iran and Turkey will
invade Israel.
After all of this, it says shewill possess her possessions.
She will possess the MiddleEast, from the euphrates river
to the nile.
She has never possessed that.
She will possess the oil fields.
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She will possess the templemount.
She'll rebuild her temple.
No one will be able to stop her.
Well, after a little period ofpeace, these three nations will
invite, invade with amulti-million man army.
If you read Ezekiel 38 and 39,.
When that happens, they'll cometo the mountains of Israel.
The United States, these othernations, will not defend Israel
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like in this war of Obadiah,where she defeats the nations.
No one will defend her, but Godwill.
He'll send an earthquake, he'llsend fire out like sodom and
gomar all over, wipe out theirmulti-million man army five, six
of them and destroy thosenations with fire from heaven.
They came against israel andsaid the world will fear the god
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of israel.
Yeah, but there's some tragedywill, a great will happen.
Someone's going to arise afterthat war and say listen, we're
going to wipe ourselves out Ifwe don't do something.
I've got a peace plan For sevenyears peace and prosperity.
Now this is quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You talk about that seven-year period.
I remember when Trump waspresident If I remember
correctly, somebody he hadworking come up with this
Abrahamic Accord Right, and itwas for seven years, the
Abrahamic Accords are still inoperation.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's his son-in-law, and his son-in-law is an
Orthodox Jew.
That's interesting.
And, matter of fact, hisgrandchildren are now Jewish,
his daughter and this young man.
He's brilliant.
I watched his presentation.
I believe it was in SaudiArabia.
It was brilliant and a lot ofthe Arabic nations bought into
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it.
He said it makes more sense tohave prosperity through peace
than war.
And he's a genius.
Yeah, somebody's going to risewith something like that, like
that, and the nations of theworld will buy into it.
Because you have the Arabicnations wiped out.
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You have Russia, iran andTurkey wiped out, yeah, and
Israel will sign a seven-yeartreaty of destruction, and she
won't even know it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Because it says they will destroy them in their
prosperity right.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He said when people say peace and prosperity, sudden
destruction comes.
He said he will destroy many intheir prosperity.
For three and a half years thisworld leader will be rising in
power and making peopleprosperous.
There will be peace everywhere.
Israel will be doing great, thenation is doing great, but
after three and a half yearshe'll set up his image in the
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rebuilt temple and he'll say I'mgod.
So this is pre-rapture, this isum.
I believe the first three and ahalf years will, uh, be
pre-rapture.
Yeah, he second thessalonians.
Chapter two says um, when yousee these things coming to pass,
what things Said the son oftradition?
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Well, he said two things haveto happen.
The great falling away yeah,that's the church.
We saw that Pastor Jason inCOVID.
Yeah for sure.
A lot of those people stillhaven't come back.
They got an excuse Maybe atWalmart, but I can't come to
church.
I might get COVID.
Well, I had it twice and stilllived.
That has happened.
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And said the son of perditionbe revealed.
That's the Antichrist.
I believe we'll see his rise.
But the Lord says the word,says I've not appointed you a
day of wrath.
The day of wrath is the lastthree and a half years when he
sets himself up in the templeand says I'm God, you're going
to bow down to me.
Take my mark and Israel willrevolt.
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And in that day it says ifyou're on the rooftop, don't
come down.
You know, hightail it out oftown to the mountains, don't
look back.
Don't grab anything, just go.
He will destroy two-thirds ofthe Jewish nation suddenly.
And he will destroy two-thirdsof the Jewish nation suddenly,
and a third of them will beairlifted to the wilderness
called Basra.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Before we get there.
Let me ask you this, because Iknow I've had this question
before what is the differencebetween what Hitler did and what
this guy would do?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Hitler slaughtered 20 million Jews or, I'm sorry, 6
million Jews.
Hitler was defeated by humanarmies.
This man will if it's 9 millionin Israel right now that's 6
million, and most of those areyoung people.
I was over there.
Everywhere you look are youngpeople Wipe them out.
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But he's not only going to dothat, it's beware of wild
slaughter Anybody that does notsubmit to him or take the mark.
They'll have their head cut offor be killed, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So you're saying that you believe the church will be
raptured right before thistribulation starts, because it's
going to be three and a halfyears of peace, right, and the
last half is going to be whereAll hell?
Breaks loose, yeah yeah, forlack of a better term, it's
going to be two-thirds.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The world's population will be destroyed in
one war.
When the antichrist goes out, athird, it said uh, the four
horsemen of the apocalypse, theone on the white horse with the
crown and the sword and is givenauthority, that's the
Antichrist.
He will destroy a third of theworld's population to enforce
his rule.
And that's what?
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Two and a half million people,or around two million, and he'll
wipe out two million Jews.
But it goes on and on.
There will be a horribleslaughter during the last three
and a half years and the wordsays Billion, billion, billions.
Yeah, that if it wasn'tshortened, nobody would survive
it.
Right, but I believe that wewill see.
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I grew up being told that we'regoing to be raptured out before
the tribulation.
Tribulation has two parts.
The tribulation was the firstthree and a half years.
Be peace and prosperityEverybody's doing good.
Last three and a half years isthe day of wrath, god's wrath,
where he pours out 21 judgmentson the earth.
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He said I've not appointed youa day of wrath.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And I believe that we will be taken out shortly
before that.
Yeah, I believe I've been seeingmore and more of, and I'm kind
of cautious in prophecies anddreams and all these things,
because and I know Scripturetells us not to despise
prophecies, so I'm very careful,but I'm also very intentional
when it comes to because youknow, there are a lot of people
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they prophelying they ain'tprophesying right and so but I
have seen a lot of dreams, a lotof things that have resonated
with me recently.
There are a lot of people whoare dreaming and having visions
and dreams of the raptureoccurring, the calling up, if
you will, occurring, and itseems increasingly more so.
I have somebody reach out to meat least once a week, sometimes
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multiple times during the week,telling me of dreams that
they've had of not just theirindividual lives, of the
community of churches, but alsothe world and things occurring.
So I definitely feel like inthis moment now, one subject I
want to talk about is revival.
That's a huge topic for youbecause I know you have studied
it thoroughly and in depth.
We talk about revival all thetime, but you think there's
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going to be a revival before thecalling.
How do you think that's goingto happen.
I believe there will be two.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
First of all, the Scripture says the Lord you seek
and delight in will suddenlycome to his temple, but he's
coming to purge his church.
I've been in church all my life, jason, and 76 years grew up in
it, seen a lot, I've seen a lotof Christians, I've seen a lot
of church folks and there's abig difference.
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Not everybody that says Lord,lord knows the Lord, and a lot
of bad stuff has gone on inchurches that has driven the
world away.
The Lord says I'm coming to myhouse, my temple, with a
refiner's fire and I call it apruning hook.
He's going to separate wheatand tares.
God's going to cleanse hischurch and I believe once he
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does, then there is going to bean end-time harvest.
I believe before the rapture,but I believe after the rapture,
but I believe after the rapture.
If you study the little parableof the five wise and the five
foolish virgins, five had oil intheir lamps and they were
prepared, right.
The five foolish didn't andthey went out to get oil.
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When they got oil, the door wasclosed, right.
Uh, there will be a revival ora lot of people seeking god
after the rapture because theyknow they missed it.
There will be people saved.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
be saved during the tribulation but they'll have to
pay for their faith.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oh gosh most of them will be martyred yeah he said.
Revelation said there's a greatmultitude before the throne of
god, yeah, and they wereslaughtered by the antichrist.
So, um, but the reason, Ibelieve that the rapture, uh,
will take.
These two things have to happen.
Second, thessalonians saysconcerning being caught up to be
at the lord.
That's a rapture, isn't it?
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These two things have to happenthe great falling away, which
we've seen, and the son ofperdition be revealed.
I believe that's within thenext year.
I'm not prophesying, but I feelit in my gut and what I'm
seeing, because the world is ina mess.
There are 120 wars going onthroughout the world right now.
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The whole world is in an uproar.
They're looking for somebody tohelp them and when this guy
comes along, the nations willflock to him Because he'll
supposedly have the answer toall the problems, and it'll work
for three and a half years yeahso do you think?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
um?
So I personally think thatwe're going to see.
So the war of obadiah.
Which one is that one?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
the war of obadiah is .
It's just one chapter.
That's the war we're seeingtaking place now, right now.
Between the Jews and thedescendants of Esau, the Arabic
nations, and I was reading inObadiah, and I believe Psalms 83
talks about it too.
It said let us go and destroythem.
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Let Israel cease being a nation, nation.
What are they saying right now?
They, they, they want to, fromthe river to the sea, wipe out
who's ever between the jordanriver and the mediterranean sea
who is it?
israel, israel, yeah it'shappening right now.
Let us destroy them from beinga nation.
Let us possess theirpossessions, possessions.
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And I saw the war, the 67 war,and it blew me away.
I saw the war of 72.
But this war, I've never seenIsrael on the offense.
This is the first time in mylifetime Israel has been on the
offense and she's not lettingthe United States stop her.
Israel was going to go andattack Cairo because she'd wiped
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out all the Arabic air forcesin the 1967 war.
And guess who stopped her?
The United States.
The United States stopped herin 1972.
She was fighting for herexistence both times.
This time they've attacked her,but she is on the offense and
she will not stop until she hassecurity.
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Okay, so the Obadiah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
War is happening now, right now, and so the Psalm 83
War.
Is that the same war or is thata different war?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The Psalm 83, war is the same war, and it even
mentions those nations.
If you look at, those ancientnames are the same nations right
now.
Yeah, that will be followed bythe um uh.
Isaiah 17.
It may be a part of that, itmay follow it.
Something's going to causeisrael to attack syria right now
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.
They're saying Damascus is next.
This prophecy in Isaiah 17, Ibelieve it's Jeremiah 49, talks
about Syria.
Damascus will be totallydestroyed by fire.
She might get nuked, I don'tknow, but it will never be
inhabited again.
Her government will collapse,her army will be destroyed and
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many of the cities there nowwill become pasture lands.
They will be wiped out.
That will follow this war.
And then there will be a peaceof time that Israel will be at
peace, be prosperous.
She'll possess her possessionsfrom the Mediterranean to all
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the oil fields, because Ezekiel38 and 39 says Russia, turkey
and Iran will come against anation that is at peace and
secure.
She's not secure right now, isshe?
She will be after this war, andthen God himself will wipe them
out, and so the nations willrush against Israel and God will
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rebuke them.
So there will be peace beforethe son of perdition is revealed
.
What will happen?
There will be a period of peace, I believe, after this war of
Obadiah where she wipes out thedescendants of Esau, these
Arabic nations.
There'll be a period of peace,followed by Russia, iran and
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Turkey invading Ezekiel 38 and39.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And was that the one where Scripture says they'll put
a hook in their mouth and drawthem down?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And right now Putin has sent Israel a message don't
you dare attack Iran.
Turkey is threatening to go towar.
It's all falling into place.
She will defeat these Arabicnations.
There will be a short period ofpeace, but these three nations
in Ezekiel 38 and 39 will comeagainst her, and when God wipes
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them out, that's when theantichrist is going to arise say
listen, we got to do something.
We're wiping everybody out.
I've got a plan, yeah, and theywill buy into it.
The great.
So there's a great deceptioncoming up on the face of the
earth.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's why it pays to be close to god and tapped into
the vine and and I don't knowthere, and I know you guys have
seen a lot of growth in yourministry.
He's the pastor here inLaurenburg, north Carolina, at a
place in Gibson which is rightbeside us called Gibson
Pentecostal Church, and sothere's Sister Church of Us here
at Crosspoint and Seth Odom'sReliant Church, and so I know we
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have seen growth.
You guys have been seeinggrowth.
God is calling people and so Iknow we have seen growth.
You guys have been seeinggrowth there.
God is calling people like thatGod is, I believe.
I don't believe personally, Idon't believe we're quite in
revival yet, but I believe weare right at the door of.
I just see God drawing peopleout of nowhere.
We've had more visitors in thepast two months than we've had
probably I don't know, Iwouldn't say the rest of the
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year We've had.
We have a lot of people comethrough here, but there have
been an increasingly noticeabledifference in the amount of
people who just woke up and saidyou know what I felt like God
was calling me to church, or Ifelt like God was calling me to
Crosspoint, and so they'restarting to come in, and so, of
course, my prayer is on how tosteward every single one of them
.
But anyway, you're doing a goodjob too.
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Well, thank you, sir, you aretoo, but it's been interesting
to be a part of it, to see Goddrawing people, and I feel like,
if anyone is listening andtapped in right now, god is
calling people, and so Iencourage anyone who's listening
or anyone who may watch this atsome point.
Look, don't wait.
I'm telling you, the day afterthe rapture, the moment the
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rapture occurs, if thegovernment can't explain it away
, if the moment after therapture occurs, people are going
to be beating down the doors ofthe church, and it's too late.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And it will be too late.
One of the things I know we'reon the verge of something is
I've been through two awakeningsin my 76 years.
The early 60s a lot of us Igrew up in another church.
I grew up in a Baptist church.
They're good people taught meabout salvation, but we didn't
know anything about the HolySpirit.
We thought that was for anotherday in time.
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But a bunch of us started beingfilled with the Spirit Baptists
, methodists, catholics,episcopalians, millions of
people.
I saw that.
It was astonishing.
I saw it again in 72.
The Lord gave me a dream ofpeople trying to come to church,
couldn't get in the front doorand I shared this with you.
The Lord dropped in my heart tostart a bus ministry.
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I was just a young fellow, abunch of us young folks.
We went out to the community.
I felt God was going to dosomething, started a bus
ministry.
The very first Sunday webrought 26 new people in and the
Sunday school superintendentsaid you know, we're at 75.
It's always hard to get over 75.
They locked the door on us,just like in my dream, because
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they weren't ready.
It went from that.
Within the first year we wentfrom 75 to 900.
We had to leave water in thebaptismal pool because 30 and 40
were getting saved every Sunday.
I've seen that.
I'm seeing it the beginnings ofit again.
Our little church has gonethrough a lot.
I used to be here with you andI've been over there.
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They have doubled in attendancethe last six months.
That's amazing and there's anexcitement.
And they're going outeverywhere, right.
God gave me a dream the otherday that we were giving out Red
Delicious apples.
I thought well, and it was inTechnicolor.
And I thought, well, what inthe world does that mean?
And then there was a 10-foottall Red Delicious apple and we
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were cutting off pieces feedingpeople.
The Red Delicious apple has themost nutrients in it and
antitoxins of any apple outthere.
God is going to raise up hispeople to feed the lost with the
good news of the gospel andthat antioxidants.
That's getting rid of sin.
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Yeah, the biggest in gatheringin the history of the church is
beginning to happen.
There's an excitement and Ithank god I'm still around to
see it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
yeah it makes me excited sitting there, thinking
about peter.
Whenever he said when jesus wasasking, do you love me?
He said then feed my sheep,tend to my.
That that's right.
And so I think that's whatshepherds are doing now.
Those who are listening arecalled, they're going out,
they're sharing the gospel,they're sharing those apples,
they're sharing what they need,and I'm super excited about what
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God is doing in the earth nowand what he's going to continue
doing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You know, when I was still pastor here and we worked
together and I had a dream, orwhatever it was, and I told you
about it this balcony out here,the fire escape, you are
preaching on it, there was athousand people in the field.
Well, I believe we saw that atthe fourth of july yeah you were
out there and there washundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of people.
There's a great in gatheringcoming cross.
You're going to have to buildbalconies or build on.
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God is bringing in the harvest.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's coming, I feel it in my spirit.
Yeah, Well, let's do this.
I want to bring you back nextweek and I want to talk about
the judgments.
I want to talk about the bowls.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I want to talk about the seals being broken.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I want to talk about all that, because this is
everything we've talked about upuntil now has been pretty much
pre-rapture leading into therapture.
I want to talk about what it'sgoing to look like after the
rapture.
I'll be glad to do that Afterthe calling, so I'd love to
bring you in next week and let'stalk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, let's do this.
Let's close everybody out.
Do that with a blessing, with apriestly blessing, from Numbers
6, 24 through 26.
Scripture says the Lord blessyou and keep you.
The Lord make his face shineupon you and be gracious to you.
The Lord lift up hiscountenance upon you and give
you peace.
Hey, this is Pastor Jason, fromPastor to Pastor, along with
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Pastor Michael Edds.
Look, come join us again nextweek as we talk about what it
looks like post-rapture.
We can't wait to see you.
God bless you.
End time prophecy.
How close are we Coming up?
Next on Pastor to Pastor heylook, it's another episode of
Pastor to Pastor.
I'm Pastor Jason Watson andmissing today is Pastor Seth
Odom, but I got a great, greatreplacement it's my pastor,
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pastor Michael Edds, royaltyfrom West Virginia.
How you doing, pastor.
I'm doing good Pastor, jason,how are you?
I'm doing great.
It's so good to have you on.
Look, we're talking about atopic today.
Look, outside of revival.
This is the next big topic I'vealways heard you talk about.
It is something I know.
You have studied and studiedlong and hard, and it's end-time
prophecy.
It's the second coming of Jesusleading up into it, and so I'm
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ready to dig right in.
Let's dig, let's go ahead.
So quick question Now.
I know prophecy talks about thesecond return of Jesus and he
says that no man will know thehour.
But Matthew 24, between 32 and35, talks about when you see and
I'm paraphrasing here when yousee the fig tree budding, you
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know that it's at the door.
So what exactly is that budding?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Matthew 24, the fig tree budding is when Israel
would be reborn as a nation, andthat happened in May 1948.
Yeah, and he said when you seethis happening, you know that
it's near.
His coming is near, even at thedoors.
One thing that really excitedme is that this generation will
not pass away till all things befulfilled.
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The generation that was born in1948 will not pass away till
all these things happen andwe'll see Jesus return.
I was born in 48.
That's my generation, so thatexcites me, excites you.
Yeah, I may be older and dirt,but I'm waiting for Jesus to
come Waiting for Jesus, yeah,yeah, and what do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
let me ask you this what do you think?
Is something I know manyChristians have heard before.
They keep hearing Jesus iscoming.
Jesus is coming.
What would you say?
For you is a definite sign ofthis parable of the fig tree
budding.
Tell me what stands out moretoday than has ever stood out
before.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I've heard that all of my life.
Jesus is coming.
Jesus is coming.
But now I'm seeing with my eyesprophecy come to pass, one of
the prophecies that not onlywould Israel be reborn as a
nation, but the Israeli people,the Jewish people, would return.
When I was just a little fella,there were about 2 million Jews
in Israel.
There are 9 million there nowand that the ancient cities
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would be rebuilt.
I was over there about three orfour years ago.
I was astonished.
Whole cities at one time areskyscrapers, houses and
everything are going up Roadsgoing everywhere.
Israel is one of the topnations in the world in
technology.
All of the major corporationshave branches there.
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She said she would beprosperous, she would be
powerful.
I saw that and it said thedesert would blossom.
Everywhere you look over thereit's like the curse on the
land's been lifted.
I was there in 80.
I thought who in the worldwould fight over this barren
place right four years ago itblew me away.
Everywhere you look there,gardens, there's fruit and um.
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But one of the biggest thingsthat lets us know that it's near
is this when the descendants ofEsau and sometimes it's called
Edom will attack Israel from allsides and they would be allied
by a, by Persia, which ismodern-day Iran.
What's on the news right now?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
yeah, just that yeah, the Iranian proxies are
attacking Israel from Gaza, fromLebanon.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Seven areas.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, all around.
Yeah, that's pretty interesting.
I mean, it's all over the newstoday.
You can't get away from it.
It's talking about Israelfighting wars on pretty much all
fronts.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, the thing that excites me.
As you know, I've studied theseprophecies for years, and the
prophecy of El BBadai talksabout it.
It talks about them attackingIsrael.
The descendants of Esau are theArabic nations there's 240
million and said Israel would be, or the Jewish nation would be,
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a fire and the house of Josepha flame.
A fire and the house of Josepha flame.
Well, the only nation that's.
And if you watch the news, lookin Lebanon, look at what's
happening to Hezbollah, lookwhat's happening to Hamas,
israel's dropping these bombsand it's fire.
And I thought my mercy, I'mseeing this happen, since you
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would be assisted by the houseof Joseph, and I believe that's
the United States.
I believe there are enoughdescendants of the lost tribes
of Israel, the 10 lost tribesthat are here in the United
States.
I believe that's who it is Saidthey would be a flame, the
house of Judah would be a fire,and so it means they're helping
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them at a lesser amount, whichis happening right now.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, okay, so let's go through some of the steps
that we can expect in terms ofseeing the fig tree budding and
the coming I know it talks aboutuntil the son of perdition be
revealed or he set himself up inthe temple.
You want to go through thatjust a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Sure, uh, this war that's taking place.
You know, I shared all theseother prophecies about Israel
being returned, being prosperous, having a mighty army and so
forth and so forth.
But the thing that's got meexcited, this war in the middle
East when Israel was attacked ayear ago in October suddenly.
This war in the Middle Eastwhen Israel was attacked a year
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ago in October, suddenly, and itwas like the Holocaust all over
again and the United Statestried to hold them back.
Well, israel will not be.
They're fighting for theirnational survival Right.
And what Obadiah said that theywould be attacked and they
would be encouraged by Iran it'shappening right now.
Yeah, giving them arms.
She would be encouraged by.
Iran.
It's happening right now.
Yeah, giving them arms.
She would be attacked on allsides, but the prophecy says
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Israel will wipe them out.
That's 240 million Arabicpeople.
That's a lot of people and thisthing is accelerating,
especially with Lebanon andSyria's getting involved.
And those people on the PersianGulf.
I can't think of the littlenation that's sending missiles
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into Israel.
Israel's on the offense.
For the first time in my life,I've seen Israel on the offense.
All these other wars it waswars of survival, trying to
fight them back the 1967 war,the Yom Kippur War, I think 72.
Those were defensive wars.
Now she's on the offense and Ithought my these prophecies have
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to be happening.
What's going to happen?
She's going to defeat all thesenations around her.
I was reading in I believe it'sIsaiah 17, and in Jeremiah 49,
syria will get involved.
Damascus is one of the mostancient cities on earth never
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been destroyed.
That city will be totally wipedout.
It says it'll be uninhabitable.
Right, it will never beinhabited again.
Their government will be wipedout.
Their army will be wiped out.
It said fearful noise orcommotion would come from the
sea.
Well, the Israeli Navy is goingto be shooting missiles there
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Right now.
They say they're going toattack Damascus because there's
a lot of the Iranian weaponsthere and the Iranian government
is the government.
There is a puppet governmentfor Iran.
And then these prophecies go onIsrael will wipe out these
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Arabic nations, she'll defeatall of them in Lebanon, she'll
destroy this nation of Syria.
All of these nations Jordan,saudi Arabia all of them will
get involved and when she does,she'll have a period of peace.
Now, the thing that got meexcited about how close it is
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there are three nations willform an alliance.
That's Turkey, iran and Russia.
Well, israel's going to hitIran pretty hard, probably knock
out a lot of her military bases, set her back good ways For a
period of time, it said, israelwill have a period of peace.
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This coalition of three nationsIsrael, iran and Turkey will
invade Israel.
After all of this, it says shewill possess her possessions.
She will possess the MiddleEast, from the euphrates river
to the nile.
She has never possessed that.
She will possess the oil fields.
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She will possess the templemount.
She'll rebuild her temple.
No one will be able to stop her.
Well, after a little period ofpeace, these three nations will
invite, invade with amulti-million man army.
If you read Ezekiel 38 and 39,.
When that happens, they'll cometo the mountains of Israel.
The United States, these othernations, will not defend Israel
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like in this war of Obadiah,where she defeats the nations.
No one will defend her, but Godwill.
He'll send an earthquake, he'llsend fire out like sodom and
gomar all over, wipe out theirmulti-million man army five, six
of them and destroy thosenations with fire from heaven.
They came against israel andsaid the world will fear the god
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of israel.
Yeah, but there's some tragedywill, a great will happen.
Someone's going to arise afterthat war and say listen, we're
going to wipe ourselves out Ifwe don't do something.
I've got a peace plan For sevenyears peace and prosperity.
Now this is quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You talk about that seven-year period.
I remember when Trump waspresident If I remember
correctly, somebody he hadworking come up with this
Abrahamic Accord Right, and itwas for seven years, the
Abrahamic Accords are still inoperation.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's his son-in-law, and his son-in-law is an
Orthodox Jew.
That's interesting.
And, matter of fact, hisgrandchildren are now Jewish,
his daughter and this young man.
He's brilliant.
I watched his presentation.
I believe it was in SaudiArabia.
It was brilliant and a lot ofthe Arabic nations bought into
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it.
He said it makes more sense tohave prosperity through peace
than war.
And he's a genius.
Yeah, somebody's going to risewith something like that, like
that, and the nations of theworld will buy into it.
Because you have the Arabicnations wiped out.
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You have Russia, iran andTurkey wiped out, yeah, and
Israel will sign a seven-yeartreaty of destruction, and she
won't even know it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Because it says they will destroy them in their
prosperity right.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He said when people say peace and prosperity, sudden
destruction comes.
He said he will destroy many intheir prosperity.
For three and a half years thisworld leader will be rising in
power and making peopleprosperous.
There will be peace everywhere.
Israel will be doing great, thenation is doing great, but
after three and a half yearshe'll set up his image in the
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rebuilt temple and he'll say I'mgod.
So this is pre-rapture, this isum.
I believe the first three and ahalf years will, uh, be
pre-rapture.
Yeah, he second thessalonians.
Chapter two says um, when yousee these things coming to pass,
what things Said the son oftradition?
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Well, he said two things haveto happen.
The great falling away yeah,that's the church.
We saw that Pastor Jason inCOVID.
Yeah for sure.
A lot of those people stillhaven't come back.
They got an excuse Maybe atWalmart, but I can't come to
church.
I might get COVID.
Well, I had it twice and stilllived.
That has happened.
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And said the son of perditionbe revealed.
That's the Antichrist.
I believe we'll see his rise.
But the Lord says the word,says I've not appointed you a
day of wrath.
The day of wrath is the lastthree and a half years when he
sets himself up in the templeand says I'm God, you're going
to bow down to me.
Take my mark and Israel willrevolt.
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And in that day it says ifyou're on the rooftop, don't
come down.
You know, hightail it out oftown to the mountains, don't
look back.
Don't grab anything, just go.
He will destroy two-thirds ofthe Jewish nation suddenly.
And he will destroy two-thirdsof the Jewish nation suddenly,
and a third of them will beairlifted to the wilderness
called Basra.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Before we get there.
Let me ask you this, because Iknow I've had this question
before what is the differencebetween what Hitler did and what
this guy would do?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Hitler slaughtered 20 million Jews or, I'm sorry, 6
million Jews.
Hitler was defeated by humanarmies.
This man will if it's 9 millionin Israel right now that's 6
million, and most of those areyoung people.
I was over there.
Everywhere you look are youngpeople Wipe them out.
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But he's not only going to dothat, it's beware of wild
slaughter Anybody that does notsubmit to him or take the mark.
They'll have their head cut offor be killed, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So you're saying that you believe the church will be
raptured right before thistribulation starts, because it's
going to be three and a halfyears of peace, right, and the
last half is going to be whereAll hell?
Breaks loose, yeah yeah, forlack of a better term, it's
going to be two-thirds.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The world's population will be destroyed in
one war.
When the antichrist goes out, athird, it said uh, the four
horsemen of the apocalypse, theone on the white horse with the
crown and the sword and is givenauthority, that's the
Antichrist.
He will destroy a third of theworld's population to enforce
his rule.
And that's what?
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Two and a half million people,or around two million, and he'll
wipe out two million Jews.
But it goes on and on.
There will be a horribleslaughter during the last three
and a half years and the wordsays Billion, billion, billions.
Yeah, that if it wasn'tshortened, nobody would survive
it.
Right, but I believe that wewill see.
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I grew up being told that we'regoing to be raptured out before
the tribulation.
Tribulation has two parts.
The tribulation was the firstthree and a half years.
Be peace and prosperityEverybody's doing good.
Last three and a half years isthe day of wrath, god's wrath,
where he pours out 21 judgmentson the earth.
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He said I've not appointed youa day of wrath.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And I believe that we will be taken out shortly
before that.
Yeah, I believe I've been seeingmore and more of, and I'm kind
of cautious in prophecies anddreams and all these things,
because and I know Scripturetells us not to despise
prophecies, so I'm very careful,but I'm also very intentional
when it comes to because youknow, there are a lot of people
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they prophelying they ain'tprophesying right and so but I
have seen a lot of dreams, a lotof things that have resonated
with me recently.
There are a lot of people whoare dreaming and having visions
and dreams of the raptureoccurring, the calling up, if
you will, occurring, and itseems increasingly more so.
I have somebody reach out to meat least once a week, sometimes
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multiple times during the week,telling me of dreams that
they've had of not just theirindividual lives, of the
community of churches, but alsothe world and things occurring.
So I definitely feel like inthis moment now, one subject I
want to talk about is revival.
That's a huge topic for youbecause I know you have studied
it thoroughly and in depth.
We talk about revival all thetime, but you think there's
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going to be a revival before thecalling.
How do you think that's goingto happen.
I believe there will be two.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
First of all, the Scripture says the Lord you seek
and delight in will suddenlycome to his temple, but he's
coming to purge his church.
I've been in church all my life, jason, and 76 years grew up in
it, seen a lot, I've seen a lotof Christians, I've seen a lot
of church folks and there's abig difference.
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Not everybody that says Lord,lord knows the Lord, and a lot
of bad stuff has gone on inchurches that has driven the
world away.
The Lord says I'm coming to myhouse, my temple, with a
refiner's fire and I call it apruning hook.
He's going to separate wheatand tares.
God's going to cleanse hischurch and I believe once he
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does, then there is going to bean end-time harvest.
I believe before the rapture,but I believe after the rapture,
but I believe after the rapture.
If you study the little parableof the five wise and the five
foolish virgins, five had oil intheir lamps and they were
prepared, right.
The five foolish didn't andthey went out to get oil.
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When they got oil, the door wasclosed, right.
Uh, there will be a revival ora lot of people seeking god
after the rapture because theyknow they missed it.
There will be people saved.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
be saved during the tribulation but they'll have to
pay for their faith.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oh gosh most of them will be martyred yeah he said.
Revelation said there's a greatmultitude before the throne of
god, yeah, and they wereslaughtered by the antichrist.
So, um, but the reason, Ibelieve that the rapture, uh,
will take.
These two things have to happen.
Second, thessalonians saysconcerning being caught up to be
at the lord.
That's a rapture, isn't it?
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These two things have to happenthe great falling away, which
we've seen, and the son ofperdition be revealed.
I believe that's within thenext year.
I'm not prophesying, but I feelit in my gut and what I'm
seeing, because the world is ina mess.
There are 120 wars going onthroughout the world right now.
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The whole world is in an uproar.
They're looking for somebody tohelp them and when this guy
comes along, the nations willflock to him Because he'll
supposedly have the answer toall the problems, and it'll work
for three and a half years yeahso do you think?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
um?
So I personally think thatwe're going to see.
So the war of obadiah.
Which one is that one?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
the war of obadiah is .
It's just one chapter.
That's the war we're seeingtaking place now, right now.
Between the Jews and thedescendants of Esau, the Arabic
nations, and I was reading inObadiah, and I believe Psalms 83
talks about it too.
It said let us go and destroythem.
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Let Israel cease being a nation, nation.
What are they saying right now?
They, they, they want to, fromthe river to the sea, wipe out
who's ever between the jordanriver and the mediterranean sea
who is it?
israel, israel, yeah it'shappening right now.
Let us destroy them from beinga nation.
Let us possess theirpossessions, possessions.
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And I saw the war, the 67 war,and it blew me away.
I saw the war of 72.
But this war, I've never seenIsrael on the offense.
This is the first time in mylifetime Israel has been on the
offense and she's not lettingthe United States stop her.
Israel was going to go andattack Cairo because she'd wiped
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out all the Arabic air forcesin the 1967 war.
And guess who stopped her?
The United States.
The United States stopped herin 1972.
She was fighting for herexistence both times.
This time they've attacked her,but she is on the offense and
she will not stop until she hassecurity.
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Okay, so the Obadiah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
War is happening now, right now, and so the Psalm 83
War.
Is that the same war or is thata different war?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The Psalm 83, war is the same war, and it even
mentions those nations.
If you look at, those ancientnames are the same nations right
now.
Yeah, that will be followed bythe um uh.
Isaiah 17.
It may be a part of that, itmay follow it.
Something's going to causeisrael to attack syria right now
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.
They're saying Damascus is next.
This prophecy in Isaiah 17, Ibelieve it's Jeremiah 49, talks
about Syria.
Damascus will be totallydestroyed by fire.
She might get nuked, I don'tknow, but it will never be
inhabited again.
Her government will collapse,her army will be destroyed and
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many of the cities there nowwill become pasture lands.
They will be wiped out.
That will follow this war.
And then there will be a peaceof time that Israel will be at
peace, be prosperous.
She'll possess her possessionsfrom the Mediterranean to all
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the oil fields, because Ezekiel38 and 39 says Russia, turkey
and Iran will come against anation that is at peace and
secure.
She's not secure right now, isshe?
She will be after this war, andthen God himself will wipe them
out, and so the nations willrush against Israel and God will
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rebuke them.
So there will be peace beforethe son of perdition is revealed
.
What will happen?
There will be a period of peace, I believe, after this war of
Obadiah where she wipes out thedescendants of Esau, these
Arabic nations.
There'll be a period of peace,followed by Russia, iran and
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Turkey invading Ezekiel 38 and39.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And was that the one where Scripture says they'll put
a hook in their mouth and drawthem down?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And right now Putin has sent Israel a message don't
you dare attack Iran.
Turkey is threatening to go towar.
It's all falling into place.
She will defeat these Arabicnations.
There will be a short period ofpeace, but these three nations
in Ezekiel 38 and 39 will comeagainst her, and when God wipes
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them out, that's when theantichrist is going to arise say
listen, we got to do something.
We're wiping everybody out.
I've got a plan, yeah, and theywill buy into it.
The great.
So there's a great deceptioncoming up on the face of the
earth.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's why it pays to be close to god and tapped into
the vine and and I don't knowthere, and I know you guys have
seen a lot of growth in yourministry.
He's the pastor here inLaurenburg, north Carolina, at a
place in Gibson which is rightbeside us called Gibson
Pentecostal Church, and sothere's Sister Church of Us here
at Crosspoint and Seth Odom'sReliant Church, and so I know we
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have seen growth.
You guys have been seeinggrowth.
God is calling people and so Iknow we have seen growth.
You guys have been seeinggrowth there.
God is calling people like thatGod is, I believe.
I don't believe personally, Idon't believe we're quite in
revival yet, but I believe weare right at the door of.
I just see God drawing peopleout of nowhere.
We've had more visitors in thepast two months than we've had
probably I don't know, Iwouldn't say the rest of the
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year We've had.
We have a lot of people comethrough here, but there have
been an increasingly noticeabledifference in the amount of
people who just woke up and saidyou know what I felt like God
was calling me to church, or Ifelt like God was calling me to
Crosspoint, and so they'restarting to come in, and so, of
course, my prayer is on how tosteward every single one of them
.
But anyway, you're doing a goodjob too.
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Well, thank you, sir, you aretoo, but it's been interesting
to be a part of it, to see Goddrawing people, and I feel like,
if anyone is listening andtapped in right now, god is
calling people, and so Iencourage anyone who's listening
or anyone who may watch this atsome point.
Look, don't wait.
I'm telling you, the day afterthe rapture, the moment the
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rapture occurs, if thegovernment can't explain it away
, if the moment after therapture occurs, people are going
to be beating down the doors ofthe church, and it's too late.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And it will be too late.
One of the things I know we'reon the verge of something is
I've been through two awakeningsin my 76 years.
The early 60s a lot of us Igrew up in another church.
I grew up in a Baptist church.
They're good people taught meabout salvation, but we didn't
know anything about the HolySpirit.
We thought that was for anotherday in time.
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But a bunch of us started beingfilled with the Spirit Baptists
, methodists, catholics,episcopalians, millions of
people.
I saw that.
It was astonishing.
I saw it again in 72.
The Lord gave me a dream ofpeople trying to come to church,
couldn't get in the front doorand I shared this with you.
The Lord dropped in my heart tostart a bus ministry.
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I was just a young fellow, abunch of us young folks.
We went out to the community.
I felt God was going to dosomething, started a bus
ministry.
The very first Sunday webrought 26 new people in and the
Sunday school superintendentsaid you know, we're at 75.
It's always hard to get over 75.
They locked the door on us,just like in my dream, because
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they weren't ready.
It went from that.
Within the first year we wentfrom 75 to 900.
We had to leave water in thebaptismal pool because 30 and 40
were getting saved every Sunday.
I've seen that.
I'm seeing it the beginnings ofit again.
Our little church has gonethrough a lot.
I used to be here with you andI've been over there.
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They have doubled in attendancethe last six months.
That's amazing and there's anexcitement.
And they're going outeverywhere, right.
God gave me a dream the otherday that we were giving out Red
Delicious apples.
I thought well, and it was inTechnicolor.
And I thought, well, what inthe world does that mean?
And then there was a 10-foottall Red Delicious apple and we
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were cutting off pieces feedingpeople.
The Red Delicious apple has themost nutrients in it and
antitoxins of any apple outthere.
God is going to raise up hispeople to feed the lost with the
good news of the gospel andthat antioxidants.
That's getting rid of sin.
(27:11):
Yeah, the biggest in gatheringin the history of the church is
beginning to happen.
There's an excitement and Ithank god I'm still around to
see it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
yeah it makes me excited sitting there, thinking
about peter.
Whenever he said when jesus wasasking, do you love me?
He said then feed my sheep,tend to my.
That that's right.
And so I think that's whatshepherds are doing now.
Those who are listening arecalled, they're going out,
they're sharing the gospel,they're sharing those apples,
they're sharing what they need,and I'm super excited about what
(27:45):
God is doing in the earth nowand what he's going to continue
doing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You know, when I was still pastor here and we worked
together and I had a dream, orwhatever it was, and I told you
about it this balcony out here,the fire escape, you are
preaching on it, there was athousand people in the field.
Well, I believe we saw that atthe fourth of july yeah you were
out there and there washundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of people.
There's a great in gatheringcoming cross.
You're going to have to buildbalconies or build on.
(28:13):
God is bringing in the harvest.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's coming, I feel it in my spirit.
Yeah, Well, let's do this.
I want to bring you back nextweek and I want to talk about
the judgments.
I want to talk about the bowls.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I want to talk about the seals being broken.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I want to talk about all that, because this is
everything we've talked about upuntil now has been pretty much
pre-rapture leading into therapture.
I want to talk about what it'sgoing to look like after the
rapture.
I'll be glad to do that Afterthe calling, so I'd love to
bring you in next week and let'stalk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, let's do this.
Let's close everybody out.
Do that with a blessing, with apriestly blessing, from Numbers
6, 24 through 26.
Scripture says the Lord blessyou and keep you.
The Lord make his face shineupon you and be gracious to you.
The Lord lift up hiscountenance upon you and give
you peace.
Hey, this is Pastor Jason, fromPastor to Pastor, along with
(29:07):
Pastor Michael Edds.
Look, come join us again nextweek as we talk about what it
looks like post-rapture.
We can't wait to see you.
God bless you.
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