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Speaker 1 (00:05):
what's up, family?
We're back for another episodeof pastor.
The pastor got pastor jasonwatson next next to me here.
What's happening everybody?
Uh, yes, sir, you got sethright here.
We're super excited for thisepisode and, uh, what god has
used jason through this week.
We're going to hear a littlebit about his message this
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weekend and hopefully encourageyou amen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Encourage you a
little bit.
Man, look, we had a really,really beautiful service this
past.
What was it?
So today's Sunday, we had anamazing service today I'm going
to leave that out, though I wantto talk about because I didn't
preach this Sunday because Godjust moved.
People were saved, people wereset free.
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It was an amazing service, andI heard that you guys had an
amazing service as well, butwe're going to talk about that.
Here's the thing For those ofyou who are listening today, we
are going to try to release twoepisodes a week.
So we're going to do two onewith a focus on one particular
sermon and a focus on anotherparticular sermon, and I'm
hoping that we can release theseon Monday, like we normally do,
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and then also a Wednesday orThursday one or the other.
We're going to see what worksbest.
So I think we'll start withWednesday.
That way, we give somebodysomething to listen to on Monday
and then give them something tolisten to on Wednesday.
That's right.
I can't have too much of theword.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You can't have too
much all at one time, and they
can't have too much of us.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's what.
Yeah, I mean you gotta Do thatthis week.
It will start that this week.
It's something we had talkedabout.
That I think will bless people.
They get something more tolisten to throughout the week in
just one episode, and we'restill here recording.
So here we go.
So Saturday night we had ourvery first MLK Day celebration.
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Of course, if this is Monday,you're listening to it it is
Martin Luther King Day, and soit's also the inauguration,
which is an interesting thing.
But anyway, we're going toslide past that one yeah that's
right, let's keep going.
But we were talking about—soSaturday we had our first
celebration.
Man, it was beautiful.
It was a beautiful service.
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I was mind-blown.
I can't say it was anythingthat I would have ever attended
had it not just been here.
But we had some elders in ourchurch come to me at the end of
last year and they're like, hey,pastor, can we have a MLK Day
celebration?
And I'm like, well, why not?
You know, the truth is aboutCrosspoint here.
One of our culture codes isthat we are family, and a part
of being a family is that wehonor each other, we love each
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other, we serve and we take loveon each other than to celebrate
some of the work done for someof our african-american brothers
and sisters.
So I'm like, let's do it, let'sdo it so.
So we had the service lastnight.
It uh saturday night.
It was an amazing service and,uh, I got to speak on something,
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something that really touchedme and I want to kind of share
it with the audience and shareit with you.
We haven't talked about it oranything.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's fresh, I can't
wait.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
This will be hot out
the oven.
That's right.
Come on, baby.
Here's the thing, man, a lot ofpeople were trying to look
towards.
First of all, the service wasamazing in the sense that it was
about what God had done throughDr King.
What I did is, while a lot ofpeople were focused on Dr King,
I want to talk about oldReverend King.
Come on now.
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So that's what we did.
We talked about the Reverendright.
We talked about the man of Godthat he was, because I think
that kind of gets lost intranslation, sometimes missing
the fact that he done an amazingwork civil rights activist,
brought a lot of rights to theforefront for it to be liberated
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.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, he was
definitely a peeler, for sure,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And so what I did,
what I went through and looked
at some of the differentsituations he was involved in,
and the one that touched me themost was the march from Selma to
Montgomery.
What happened in that scenario?
It was in March 7th 1965, drKing showed up and they got a
group of 600 people to marchfrom the church that he was
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preaching at that morning.
I think it was called Brown AMEChurch, and so they were
leaving from there in Selma,alabama, and they were marching
to Montgomery, and the reasonwhy they were marching in
protest was because the state ofAlabama was and this is not
just Alabama some other placeswhere they were creating.
They were making it hard forblack Americans to vote and to
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even register to vote.
So what they would do is theywould give literacy tests,
knowing that they did.
A lot of them couldn't readbecause they hadn't been in the
education system, they werestill segregated, and so they
were trying to.
We're going through a period asthe human race here in America
where things weren't equal andthey were trying to get them
equal, and so, and then therewas another thing that they were
using a tax to prevent peoplefrom.
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They were using a tax to preventpeople from uh, they were
costing, giving them a fee orcharging them a fee to register
that they couldn't pay.
And so they were doing whateverthey could do to keep black
americans from voting um fortheir representatives and so or
for who they thought wouldrepresent them best.
And so they started a marchfrom selma north selma I'll say
north carolina, because there isa selma north carolina, selma
I'm going to say North Carolina,because there is a Selma, north
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Carolina, there is one butSelma, alabama to Montgomery,
which was the capital.
Where's the capital?
So they started March, theyleft service that day at 3
o'clock and they started theirmarch.
Well, when they got to thebridge just outside of Selma, it
was a 54-mile march.
Oh God, I don't even want towalk one mile, man, they, I mean
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, it made me think of that ladywho, who marched forever to get
to the.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
To get to the service
.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But um, in india we
talked about, she watched 36 but
anyway.
So they were walking 54 miles.
Well, just as they get outsideof selma, um, the, the state
troopers and the local policemet them at the, at the bridge.
Now the bridge is and I'mtrying to remember it was the
Edmund Pettus Bridge, edmundPettus Bridge, and so the bridge
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if you get any clips, if youcan go, take a look at it like
it is a long, a big bridge.
When you get to the middle ofthat thing, you either got to go
across or there ain't really awhole lot of retreat with 600
people.
So you're going across thatthing, so the whole lot of
retreat with 600 people.
So you're going across thatthing.
So that the, the lawenforcement met them there and
to and, and the order was fromthe sheriff to stop it at any
cost, stop the protest at anycost.
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So, as they're marching therepeacefully, that's one thing I
want to.
I I admire about um, aboutreverend king, when they were
protesting, with them was, itwas all, it was peaceful.
We're not gonna fight, we'renot gonna.
We're not gonna loot, we're notgonna loot, we're not gonna,
yeah, break into buildings.
We're going to peacefullyprotest, a peacefully assemble,
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and so they they begin marching.
Law enforcement met them thereat the bridge and they begin to
beat them with billy clubs, teargas, running through the crowd
with horses I mean it was andthere's several clips and and
footage you can go and look andphotos you can go and look at.
Um and sent 50 to 70 of them inneed of medical attention and
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so they were having to go um soobviously that the it was broke
up.
Uh, people had to leave, and twodays later, that was known as
bloody sunday.
Two days later, that was knownas Bloody Sunday.
Two days later, they startedanother march.
It went from 600 to this timethey got 2,500 to start a march,
and so they began moving fromSelma back to Montgomery.
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However, because there was awhole lot of legality or legal
action being taken place, ajudge told them told them stayed
that they cannot march, theycannot peacefully assemble, they
cannot protest, because therewere some works with the
president and some legislation,some, some things in that moment
to prevent them from frommarching.
So, instead of king, uh, uh, drking taking them or reverend
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king taking them on on the marchman, he does something so
powerfully.
He gets 2,500 people and theymarch to the bridge where they
all take a knee and they allbegin praying.
Wow, so the first time they goon the march they get beat with
billy clubs.
The second time they go on amarch, dr King led 2,500.
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Reverend King led 2,500 peopleto the bridge and led them in
prayer against evil that hadbeen done and evil that was
oppressing them.
And I'm like man, dr Kingunderstood scripture.
He knew what was true in 2Corinthians, 10, 3 through 4.
It says for though we walk inthe flesh, we do not war
according to the flesh, for theweapons of our warfare are, are
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are not carnal, but mighty forpulling down strongholds.
Dr king knew that.
He understood that.
So the reverend in in dr king,understanding scripture, led
them into the greatest weaponthat we have as christians,
which is prayer.
He knew he might.
He knew that maybe I can'tfight them and according to
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Scripture I shouldn't fight themwith fists and with knives and
guns and I shouldn't go out hereand be militant like some of
the other.
I wouldn't even call them civilrights leaders, I'd just call
them militant.
I mean, anyway, I'm not goingto go there, right?
But he led them in the mostpeaceful way, in the most
biblical way, and I'll have youknow that by the time they
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gathered the third time to march, they not only—man.
This is how powerful prayer is,man.
This got me gassed up.
I was talking about this lastnight.
This is how powerful prayer is.
They went from 600—and thatTuesday.
I'm sorry, they marched on thatTuesday.
So the first march was onSunday.
That's called Bloody Sunday andthey marched that Tuesday.
I'm sorry, they marched on thatTuesday.
So the first march was onSunday that's called Bloody
Sunday and they marched thatTuesday.
That was called TurnaroundTuesday because they got to the
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bridge and once they prayed,reverend King turned them around
.
He said we're going to turnaround, we're not going to go.
Some people were upset, theywere frustrated, they didn't
understand, but Dr Kingunderstood, and so when they
released that prayer man, heknew that if I can touch heaven,
we won't have to fight.
And that's what 2,500 of themdid, man, they got together,
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they touched heaven that day.
Because here's the deal A fewweeks later, after turnaround
Tuesday, they begin to march onMarch 21st, and they arose on
the 25th in Montgomery.
They left Selma, they went toMontgomery and they were
escorted by 2,000 men.
They were escorted by 4,000guardsmen and US Army soldiers.
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Boy, you tell me prayer don'twork son.
They went from getting beat toyou, can't touch me, that's
right.
You can't touch me Right, Iknow that's right.
They went marching man and thepresident Johnson gave them
protection as they marched.
They went unimpeded from Selma,Alabama, all the way to
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Montgomery, alabama, and wereable to protest peacefully, and
shortly thereafter they ended upwinning the right to be able to
register.
They took away all theregistrants and here's the thing
they started with 600 people,they prayed with 2,500 people
and by the time they got toMontgomery that that third time
there were 25,000 peoplegathered pastors white, black,
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indian, hispanic.
There were people from all racesmarching together.
Man, that I don't know.
I just when I was thinking,when I was reading the script,
or when I was reading the the,uh, the scripture of second
Corinthians, and then I wasthinking about, um, that other
scripture in Ephesians 6, 12,where it says that we wrestle
not against flesh and blood, butagainst principalities, against
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powers, against rulers ofdarkness of this age and against
spiritual hosts and wickednessin the heavenly places.
Dr King got that.
He realized, he understood,yeah, he understood, like we
can't fight this war with carnalweapons, with fleshly weapons.
We got to have God on our sideand we know that God's for
justice, man.
And so I just felt like those2,500 people did what the right
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thing was, even though I'mwilling to bet.
I know because, according tothe historical documents and
according to history, theydidn't understand it in the
moment.
Some were upset that he didn'tpush through and keep marching,
regardless of what thegovernment said.
But Dr King got it, man.
He understood that our weaponsare not made with hands they're
not, but our weapons are mightythrough.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
God, yeah, because
then you become like everybody
else, absolutely.
We're the difference.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, how do you
stand out?
I mean, what changes if you'reacting like the world?
I changes if you're acting likethe world.
I mean, this was the way thatGod gets the glory for something
that we could have neveraccomplished by ourself.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's when you look
back and say, man, that had to
be God.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Had to be, god had to
be God.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But the beautiful
thing about Reverend King was
that he was so persistent manyeah.
And he was persistent andconsistent in his faith and
prayer and showing that, hey, wecan get things done without
lifting a hand.
Right, right, because whenyou're doing what God's called
us to do and where God's leadingus, he'll take care of the
heavy lifting.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Absolutely man, and
you know, it was so great too to
see some of his differentspeeches.
Everybody knows the I have adream speech, but there were so
many other speeches that he gaveman, it gets me upset.
That he gave one man gets meupset, I guess me.
Uh, terry, I thinking about it,man, he, when, cause, I, just I
could see the struggle rightwhen you, when you actually
study in this, when you actuallyyou take a moment to see
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another perspective, um, I, theygot to where they were in 25,
25,000 people, um, dr, turnedaround and he gave a speech.
And the speech was how long,not long, how long, not long.
And he gives God the creditthroughout, throughout, almost
the whole thing, and at the endhe says I've seen the glory of
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the coming of the Lord.
And so even last night, man,when we were, when we were
having that event here, uh, we,we, we opened it up with worship
, and worship was so beautiful,I mean so beautiful.
I looked at the guy next to meand I said can you imagine what
heaven is going to be like wherepeople of different nations, of
different tongue, of, ofdifferent whatever is all
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together worshiping God?
Man, it was, it was a lastnight was a beautiful, beautiful
event and, um, and sharing thisword, man, it just like I said,
and even today we honored someof the people who who put the
event together.
Man, it, just like I said, andeven today we honored some of
the people who put the eventtogether, and it was just, it
was very, very powerful, man,yeah, that's beautiful, so I
really enjoyed it.
But anyway, what'd you think,man?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think that's great.
You know, you talked about somethings I didn't even know about
.
You know, I didn't even knowabout the Bridge Day, which I
didn't really to something likeyou just did.
Yeah, I've never been to when mywife Taylor told me that you
were having that.
I was like what the heck isthat?
But man, that's great, it'spowerful.
It's amazing how his story isstill creating opportunities for
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people to experience the gospeland God's faithfulness and the
power of prayer.
And we live in a society wherewe need to do it ourselves, we
need to put our hand on thehammer, make things work, but
our greatest weapon is prayer.
You said it from the beginningour greatest asset that we have
is that we can pray to a god.
That is in this.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's living right,
one that is living.
We don't have to go rub.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
No belly for
something to happen, yeah we can
pray and he hears.
Bible says he hears the prayersof the righteous yeah and we
avail us much.
So, man, I love it.
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, that's great
man, but all right, brother.
Hey, let's wrap this one up.
Let's prepare for yours, mybrother.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Go ahead and read it
to them.
We're going to bless thesepeople.
Go ahead and bless them.
Numbers, chapter 6, verse 24through 26 are May the Lord
bless you and protect you.
May the Lord smile on you andbe gracious, give you peace.
That's our prayer for you.
Thank you so much for listening.
Share this if you wereencouraged with somebody, and
we'll see you next time righthere.
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Pastor to Pastor.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
God bless you.