August 8, 2025 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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answer is to call 888-564-6173. That's because we like interacting
with you guys, live and in person. I've got Tommy
Koda in the studio today. He's the pastor of Hope
Alive Church in Santa Ana. Tommy, good to see you, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Good to see you. Good, good to be here, man.
What a, what a blessing and a happy Friday for everybody.
Everyone's been blessed.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, what's new with you? How did the backpack
Speaker 2 (01:50):
last week. So yeah, thank you all for praying and
and uh thank you for asking, bro. We we had
a great time. Um, you know, we were able to receive, um,
about 150 backpacks and a whole lot more of school supplies,
and this is something we've actually been doing.
Annually and we just do it as a as an
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opportunity for us to, you know, evangelize and share the
gospel and and uh within an hour all those backpacks
and all the school supplies were were distributed, but more
more importantly, man, was the gospel was shared with so
many people that came through and and conversations with with
people and.
You know, it's really cool because sometimes, uh, you know,
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when you drive up to our church building it, it doesn't,
you know, it doesn't have a steeple or a cross
on the top of the building or anything like that
and so it can, you know, be easily missed as
a church and so a lot of the people in
the in the local community there were like, man, I
didn't know this was a church, you know, and, and, uh,
you know, and so the invitation to to come and,
and to worship and to join us, you know, it
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was really cool because this past Wednesday.
At her at her midweek Bible study, uh, a young family,
you know, had shown up a single mom. She had
shown up with her little kids and everything, you know, well,
she was there, but then she came to church on Wednesday,
you know, just to hang out and fellowship with us
and all that. Yeah, yeah. So it was really cool
just and to hear her a little bit more, say,
you know, she's been looking for a church and all
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that so.
Uh, that was, that was a blessing, you know, and, uh,
but really our heart is as, uh, as Hope Life
Church is, you know, to be outside the walls of
the church as much as we possibly can to share
the gospel and to be the light, you know, in
this world that we live here in, in the city
of Santa Ana and, you know, it's just, uh, it's
awesome to be a part of that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh, you're right, the church is hard to find or
hard to see. I remember driving on Bristol one time
and I just happened to look up and it's like, oh, what?
It was that was, you know, so then on the
way back when I returned from whatever I was doing,
I looked over and I'm like, that's Hope Life Church.
I knew it was on Bristol. I just didn't know where,
but yeah, it's right there. For those of you familiar
with the area.
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It's um, for the Burlington Coat Factory and the Aldi
over here in Santa Ana. It's across the street from
that
Speaker 2 (04:02):
right across the street, yeah. I think if you're from
Orange County, especially, you might be familiar with Bristol Street
in Santa Ana. Bristol Streets, you know, is one of
the streets where everybody in Orange County, where a lot
of people at least would go and cruise and and
all that stuff. So Bristol.
Street is very familiar. We're on South Bristol, yes, right
between Sigerstrom and Warner. We'd like to have you come visit.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yep, and, uh, you can get all those details at
Hope AliveSantaAna.com, right? Yep. Hey, I got it. All right. 888-564-6173.
Let's answer at least one question that was sent in online.
This one is from Michael, who asks, how does how
does one reconcile these two truths? Jesus died for all
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of our sins, and
If you don't forgive your brother, then God won't forgive you. Tommy,
what do you tell
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Michael? Yeah, you know, Michael, that's a, that's a great question,
and you know, when I think of this.
Question and when I think of, you know, just the
forgiveness of God and what he's forgiving me of.
And when when a person is able to also extend
that same kind of forgiveness, it's a reflection of understanding
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what true forgiveness is that that person has truly been
forgiven by God. Now, I think sometimes where a lot
of people might have a challenge in all of this
is that
They think, you know, OK, if I, you know, I
have to forgive the wrong that's been towards me now
it's like I have to, you know, I, I have
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to invite them to Christmas dinner and and to we
we have to have this very close relationship and there
are certain things in life where forgiveness is important. In
other words, what it means when we forgive other people
is that we are giving.
All of those things over to God and this person,
I'm not allowing this, you know, whatever circumstance, whatever it
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was that I, I'm having a hard time to forgive
him or her of not to control me no longer.
I am a child of God. I've been forgiven and
I want to forgive others, but it doesn't always mean
You know that I now I'm gonna be inviting this
person over for Christmas dinner and we're gonna have this
very close relationship any longer because there are certain things
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in life where, you know, hey, I can forgive you
and I can give this all over to the Lord,
but you know, maybe the relationship has been broken.
And you know I need to move forward and that
person needs to go on their way and everything else
like that. But sometimes I think when people think of this,
they think, you know, that there has to be this,
you know, there is reconciliation we, we pray for that,
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but there are times when I think, you know, when
there's been some extreme harm done to a person.
That yeah, it doesn't always mean that you're gonna invite
them over to to dinner and everything else like that,
but when it comes to forgiveness and forgiving others just
the way that Christ has forgiven us, I really do
believe it's a reflection of under truly understanding that we
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have been forgiven, you know, by a holy God, and
I want to surrender all these things as well.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So
reconciliation is the goal, but it's not always possible.
So therefore, forgive and forget is not necessarily something that's,
I mean, we should forgive, but it doesn't necessarily mean
we have to forget.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1 (07:23):
because some things you can't forget, you can't just, well,
it's not that you can't forget. I, I guess it's
if it's going to cause harm to yourself or to
a family member, then you should not forget the the
danger that this person put you in last time, so.
Yeah, could forgive them,
Speaker 2 (07:38):
but exactly, you know, and, and it's just like, you know,
thinking in a practical sense it's like, man, there are
certain things in life, you know, like, for instance, you know,
just like, uh, sexual molestation, you know, that's a very
severe thing, you know, and it's just like, OK, I
can forgive this person who has done this thing, you know, and,
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and that's, and that's the work of the Holy Spirit.
And again, I think that's a reflection of understanding I've
been forgiven.
You know, and who am I? I am not greater
than God, you know, and God is the one who forgives,
you know, I wanna forgive this person, um, because I
don't want this unforgiveness to have control over my emotions
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and everything. However, it doesn't mean that I'm gonna now
begin to invite this person to, you know, have this
close relationship any longer. It's like, no, there's a, there's a,
there's a.
boundary that I'm not going to, you know, get close to,
but hey, this, this, uh, it has no control over
me any longer because I have really surrendered it over
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to the Lord.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, for sure. All right, uh, in Long Beach, thank
you for sending in that question on the Kwave.com pastor's
perspective page. And uh now let's go to the phones.
Here we have Leslie in Riverside. Welcome to Pastor's perspective, Leslie.
Hi, how are you doing, pastors? Hey Leslie. My, my,
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my question is this, I have a friend and uh
we used to attend the same church together, but because
of distance, we haven't been able to like fellowship like
we used to. All right, so recently she tells me that,
you know,
That she's actually going to become a Muslim and I
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was just so shocked. All right, because we had gone
to the same church for a long time and I
consider her a sister in Christ. Long story short, um,
I wanna know, I mean, is that, if she becomes
a Muslim, is that like blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
and will she lose her salvation?
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Uh, is there anything you can tell me that can
help me minister to her so she doesn't make this mistake?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, you know, Leslie, that's a, that's a tough one
and that's, you know, really unfortunate to hear that your
friend has, you know, kind of gotten to this place
where she is now, like, in a sense, like we're
just saying rejecting, you know, the, the scriptures and the
gospel and now turning to.
To the Islamic faith, um, one of the things that
I would encourage you to do really is, is to continue,
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number one is to pray. You know, I, I think
we sometimes we,
Speaker 1 (10:20):
we, yeah,
Speaker 2 (10:23):
yeah, that's good. Keep on doing, you know, be persistent
in your prayer and, you know, and I know sometimes
we can think of, you know, just praying as, as almost.
Like, well, that's just a cliche kind of an answer,
but it, it, it really truly isn't. This is one
of the gifts that God has given to us to
pray and to intercede and not to stop. And there's,
we believe that there's power in prayer, so continue to
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pray in the way that you are, um, for her
and also continue to cultivate, uh, the relationship that you
have with her as a friend.
You know, and, um, and it sounds like you have
this background uh of, of knowing one another within, you know,
like going to church together and, you know, perhaps, uh,
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you know, singing worship songs together and even praying together.
I would encourage you like to bring back those scriptures,
bring her, you know, just bring this the gospel message
to her again, just keep on doing that, you know,
not in a way where you're being, you know, offensive
to her or anything like that, but really in a
friendly way and in a in a godly way, but
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also very truthful way, you know, um, because there you
she's going to have to make this decision. It's like, OK,
because sometimes I think people just get a little confused.
You know, they just like there's there, they begin to
wander and you know the Bible is very clear to
us and tells us like, you know, all these teachings
and all these other religious systems that are out there,
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the enemy will use these things to manipulate, you know,
and to take advantage of those seasons and moments of
confusion and searching and
You know, um, and the, you know, we're told in
the Bible that the devil, he disguises himself as an
angel of light, and this might be something where she's
been persuaded in as something as good, and this is
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from the Lord, and, you know, reject Christianity and, and,
you know, become a Muslim.
And it's just one of those seasons that she's there.
And so the more of the truth of the gospel
that she hears, the better and keep on praying for her.
And at the end of the day, it is a
personal decision for your friend. We can't make the people
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we love or care about.
Um, we can't make them turn to God. This this
is a personal decision, and I do believe, you know,
the Holy Spirit speaks and the Holy Spirit works, and, um,
you know, so just keep on doing those things for
her and keep on praying for her.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Now Leslie, did your friend say why she stopped going
to church or why she decided to become a Muslim?
Yeah, I mean, she's had some like hard situations that's
recently come up in her life. And, um, anyway, you know,
with everything that's going on um in the world, you know,
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she's been, she just said that she felt as being
a single woman, she just felt unprotected and then somebody started,
who was a woman who was Muslim started talking to
her and
You know, with these other ideas, and she said, well,
she felt like she'd be more protected, and I told
her not to worry about what's going on in the
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world because these things are going to happen and that's
just part of Jesus coming back. We're in the end
times and that I said we shouldn't be looking to
even a certain pastor or that we have to keep
our eyes focused on Jesus. And
So sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, you know, it's, it's interesting how how people in
vulnerable and vulnerable places in their life, you know, can really, um,
the enemy can take advantage of all those things, and
I think, you know, that's one of the important things
of
You know, just having a good, healthy, um, relationship with the,
the local body, the local church, you know, and being
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a part of the local church because it sounds like,
you know, Leslie's friend was just, uh, you know, in
a vulnerable place. There's fear and loneliness and all these
other things and that's really, you know, essential where the
local church can can be there to be a part
of the body of Christ, you know, and, and.
You know, essentially like, like, like the family of God
to find a home and to find some security, you know, and,
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and Leslie, you're right, it is, it's, it's focused on Jesus.
It's not on any other person. However, I think, you know,
God, Jesus, Jesus, uh, designed the church, you know, this
is the church is Jesus' idea, you know, God's idea, and,
and it's for that purpose. We are connected one to
another to, you know, be there with for one another,
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have compassion for one another and, you know, to, to
really be connected as a body of Christ. And so I,
I would just encourage anybody else like maybe that might
be in this place, you know, vulnerability.
You know, really connect with your local church, you know,
and be open and, and share them, you know, just
share your issues and, and the, the places where you're
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at so that you can prayerfully, you know, find that,
that piece that you're looking
for.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, I want to focus on something you said, Tommy,
and kind of goes back to what we talked about
earlier when it comes to forgiveness and not that Leslie
has to forgive her friend for becoming a Muslim, but, um,
just the whole thing about relationships, how
If they were close friends, Leslie can still invite her, hey,
let's go out to coffee, let's go out to lunch. Let's,
you know, and the, the focus, I mean, maybe before
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that's all they talked about. Maybe they shared notes of
what they learned at church or something, and now that
may not be as her friend may not want to
do that, but they can still talk about other things, right? Yeah,
Speaker 2 (15:59):
absolutely, and I, I think that's again just going back to.
You know, the importance of, you know, the church and
the relationships that we do have within the church, you know, um, we,
we develop, you know, just very extreme close friendships. I
think that's one of the reasons why we call one another,
you know, at church they hate, you know, brother, and
you know, hey, it's just because it, it's, uh, it
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describes it illustrates that relationship that we do have with
with people, you know, and, and to lean into that
and to cultivate those relationships. And so if Leslie.
You know, has this kind of relationship. I, I would
encourage that, you know, just like, hey, let's go have
some lunch, you know, let's let's talk about Jesus. You know,
let's talk about Jesus like how we used to. Let's
talk about the gospel and, and, and, and grow in
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these things, you know, um, and not to have just
like a a pseudo relationship, you know, when it comes
to just church life and and sometimes I, you know,
I think about this sometimes like in the, in regards to.
You know, just Christianity and church life on, you know,
just here in our context, you know, uh, in, in
America or in Orange County for that matter is, you know, um, we,
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everybody seems to go to church, you know, they put
their Sunday clothes on, you know, their, their Sunday best,
you know, they got their big cheeseburger smile on and
you know, how's everything going and it's like, oh man,
everything's well, everything's good, you know, but sometimes, you know, it, it's,
we have to.
Communicate and and and just let one another know like
it's OK not to be OK. Like this is why
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we are here as a local church because we want to,
you know, go through our hurts together, you know, um, and,
and pray for one another and cultivate these relationships knowing
that it's, it's, you know, life isn't easy, man. It's,
it's hard, you know, and and the spiritual battle, it
is very, it is very real, you know, and it's um.
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And it's very important that we have these, these relationships
developed within the church and and within the body of Christ, uh,
not just to grow in our understanding in the word
of God, but I think to, to grow as, you know,
the church, the light of the world, you know, and
because that's when people see that and they, they begin
to say, man, I desire that same kind of relationship
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as well. So.
Yeah, it's very important.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Leslie, thank you for your phone call today here on
Pastor's Perspective. 888-564-6173 is the number for you to call
and ask Tommy Coda a question. He's the pastor of
Hope Alive Church in Santa Ana. And let's talk to
Pete in San Pedro. What did you want to know, Pete?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes, hi guys, um, I just would like to get
some scriptures that support pre-trib or you know, the, the
fact that the church is raptured before the tribulation period.
Yeah. Do you have any? Yeah, and I would say,
you know, Pete, um, one of the, the, the one
scripture that that I think of is in, uh, 1
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Thessalonians in chapter 4, verse number 16, um, where it says, uh,
for the Lord Himself would descend from heaven with a
cry of com uh uh a cry of command with
the voice of an archangel and with the sound of
the trumpet of God and the dead in Christ will
rise first.
And, and so that's kind of one portion of scripture
where I, I believe that, you know, you can really
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look to in regards to pre-tribulation and, you know, there's
a lot of, there's a lot, there's, there are other
um positions on this, you know, whether it's pre-trib or
post-trip or or even mid-trib.
And there's a lot of great, you know, uh, biblical
instruction and, and in the sense like good arguments for,
for either one of these things and, and, uh, pre-trib
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is what is a position that I, um, hold to,
but I, I know that this is not like a
dogmatic thing to where we are going to die on
this hill, uh, for, for everything because, you know, who,
who knows, uh.
When it comes to this time, you know, the study
of eschatology is is very interesting because there there is
different positions on these things, you know, um, but this
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is one passage that I would say like to look
to and and to study on in regards to pre-tribulation.
So
Speaker 1 (20:08):
why
are you asking this question, Pete?
Well, it's for, uh, a relative of mine. Actually, he's
writing a book and um he just wanted to know,
he wanted
Speaker 2 (20:19):
my opinion
Speaker 1 (20:20):
on that. And I, I already believe I'm a pretty
tri believer, but he just asked me to try to get,
you know, some information for his book. And so, um,
that was.
That was the real
reason. Well, I hope you're going to get a writing
credit on this book, Pete, because if he's writing a
book and he's coming to you for information, I mean,
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I don't know, I, I've never written a book, so
I don't know. But if, if, I mean, you would
think he'd be doing his own
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Pete's
part of the research team, I
Speaker 1 (20:49):
guess so, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a relative of mine.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Good stuff. So
Speaker 1 (20:53):
yeah, that's absolutely right,
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Ryan.
And um yeah, I have no um you know, you're right.
But I, if you have time, I just want to
get your theory real quick on um how the Great
Pyramids or the pyramids got, got there.
The pyramids in Egypt.
Yeah, is that like
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Well, you know, I, we know that they're there in
Egypt and, and I believe that, uh, you know, that
the Egyptians, you know, and the pharaoh at that time
used uh the, the Jews to, to work as, as
slaves there for hundreds of years and, and so when, um,
and that's when Moses was delivered, so, uh, Moses was
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used to, to bring deliverance for the, the, the people
of Israel. So.
You know, perhaps that's how they were. I know there's
a lot of TV shows and other things and articles
perhaps of UFOs and all these other things, uh, you know,
building these, uh, pyramids and and all that stuff, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Who knows? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Pete, thanks for your phone call today on Pastor's Perspective.
888-564-6173 is our number. We would love to hear from you.
We're gonna be here until 4 o'clock this afternoon, 888-564-6173.
Let's talk to Bill in Ontario who is listening on
FM 107.9 K wave. Hello, Bill, welcome. Hi, hi, hi,
(22:21):
how are you doing?
Uh, so let me make this question as short as possible. My, uh, my, um,
my daughter abandoned her kids, uh, when they were young,
and she came back into their life recently.
She had a heart attack.
Um, she told them they weren't, she wasn't doing drugs anymore,
but the med triggered her heart, triggered a heart attack.
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It was in the system.
And now she's, uh, she's gonna be disabled, kind of,
and um the kids, they're not enthusiastic about
You know, helping her, you know, her moving with the,
I mean they'll say this, they'll come see her and
stuff like that, but as far as moving in with
them or anything like that, they're, they're not looking at
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that at all. How old are the kids now, Bill?
Uh, one is 36. The oldest son is 36, the
oldest daughter is 2 uh 27, and then it's a
young daughter who's 21. OK. And have they, do they
have families of their own and everything? They're living on
their own? Yes, they, they all have families of their own, yes. OK.
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And you say your daughter came back into their lives
before the heart attack or after?
Before the heart attack, OK, so she tried to make
reconciliation as we were talking about earlier in the program, um,
and then she had this heart attack and, uh, so
where's she staying now?
Now she's still in the hospital. She's, well, she's in
the hospital and then she's gonna be going to a
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rehab center for a couple of months and then because
so she had a massive her heart only works 10%
right now, 10% right now, you know, but I, I
just wonder if are my kids wrong for feeling the
way they are because I can, I can relate because
I tried to help her and
I thought she was clean too, but I'm a father,
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so I have to be there for her, but I'm really,
really upset about, about this and so are the kids,
but they refused to really do anything um.
Uh, you know, that's important to help her. And they're
refusing because of how she abandoned them in the past.
I don't know for sure, but I know, I know
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that's part of it, but I, I do know because
my grandson told me, he said she, she, you know,
she lied to me. I brought her around my kids
and she was doing that stuff and
You know, so she, uh, I know he's, uh, he's
the oldest, so he remembers a lot when they, uh,
when the mother left. Yeah, yeah. Tommy, what do you
say to?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, you know, Bill, that's it. This is a tough
situation and then, you know, I just, I prayerfully she'll
be able to, uh, you know, really be healed from
this heart attack and everything and, and, um, you know,
a life of addiction is.
Um, it, it is bad. It, it is very destructive,
you know, as we see here with this situation and
that's going on and, you know, it sounds like, you know,
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from what I understand that, you know, their mom, your
daughter made all the attempts, you know, to get to
a place where she's better, you know, and sobriety and
all these other things, you know, now she's got adult
children and
You know, what I would say, um, Bill, is that,
you know, resentment, um, that this is a, is a
heavy thing, you know, because this is what it sounds
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like you're the, the kids may have some resentment and, and,
you know, some, as you said, you know, anger, you know,
towards having now to kind of in a sense stop
their life perhaps because they need to be there to
help mom and, and to do all these things when,
you know, there's uh there's a past, there's a history of,
of just pretty much destruction.
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And you know, I don't know, are, are your, are
as the family, are the kids, are they saved? Are they,
you know, do they believe in Jesus?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yes, I, I, I, I know my grandson told me
he was a Christian several times and uh my two daughters,
I'm not.
Totally sure, but I know they do attend church.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
OK. Yeah, you know, so, well, this, that's a, that's
a big thing, you know, because that's
Speaker 1 (26:16):
when
Speaker 2 (26:16):
they
Speaker 1 (26:16):
were kids.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, OK. Yeah, because that's what I kind of wanted
to just if from that standpoint, hey, being a Christian,
being a believer, that means, you know, hey, you know,
there's all things are new, and one of the things
that we are called to do is is to serve
and to be there for our families and to do
what it is that we can.
You know, and to lay aside, you know, the resentment
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and all these other things and just not allow these
things because that's really
You know, a work of the flesh, you know, the
flesh will cause, you know, this, this anger towards, you know,
other people. And so that's the work of the flesh and,
and so just yielding and surrendering to the work of
the Holy Spirit, you know, then, then those virtues of
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the spirit, you know, the love, joy, and the peace,
then they can operate from there and I would say,
you know, encourage you to
Really pour into them and and to really encourage them like, hey,
this is your mom and and this is what God
would want them to do. Now, you know what that like,
what that looks like and the severity of her, you know,
her illness and and the heart attack and being handicapped
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and everything, maybe they're they are not equipped medically to
take care of all of those needs, but to actually
And be there and to be supportive of these things.
That's something that they can do, especially as being adults
and as being Christians is like, hey, you know, I
can't let this resentment really dictate to me of how
I treat my family. You know this, you know, regardless
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of what the behavior was like and I know there's
probably a lot of stories and trauma and heartache that
has been caused because of addiction.
But again, going back to like forgiveness and reconciliation, and
it sounds like there's been sobriety and, and now the result,
you know, has of a of a life of addiction
has been, you know, a heart attack and, and, you know,
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these things.
Medical issues, you know, I, I would say, you know,
this would be the, the best thing to do, and
the one thing that would bring glory to God is,
is all of these things, but, you know, obviously they
can only do as much as they're, they're capable of
doing because if there's more medical attention that need that
needs to be had, then, you know, maybe they're not
equipped to do those
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things.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, we're coming up to a break, but I wanted
to ask you, Tommy, um,
Perhaps, yeah, perhaps they're thinking we can't take care of
mom because of all these physical things that she needs,
medical things. Uh, we're living in a small two bedroom apartment.
Where are we going to put Mom? We can't afford
to move into a bigger house. As Christians, we're told
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to honor our parents.
So where does, where do we draw the line on that?
What if, what if we can't afford? What does it
mean to honor your parents? Yeah,
Speaker 2 (28:56):
well, you know, I, what it means to honor our
parents is exactly that honor them, you know, this is,
you know, God, they, they gave birth, you know, she
gave birth to, you know, our parents that, you know,
birthed us and, and they did the best that they can,
you know, I, and.
I would say in in this kind of a situation
regardless of like, you know, they have brothers and sisters,
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they can come collectively together and there's a bunch of
resources that are available that are out there, you know,
from the county to the city to the state, you know,
look to these resources to get the help and to
find the help that they need.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.
All right, Bill, thank you for your phone call today
here on Pastor's Perspective. 888-564-6173 is the number to call.
We would love to hear from you. What kind of
questions do you have about the Bible, about the Christian faith,
about life in general? You can give us a call.
Tommy Coda will be here for another 30 minutes at 888-564-6173.
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And yes, we are live. If you're listening on Friday afternoon,
the 8th of August, give us a call 888-564-6173.
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888-564-6173. That's the number to call us today here on
Pastor's Perspective. Brian Perez and Tommy Coda here despite our surnames. Yeah,
we can speak a little bit of Spanish. I was
gonna say let's open up the phone lines for people
to ask us their questions in Spanish, but between the
two of us, I don't think we could.
Anything I know that
Speaker 2 (30:37):
that was funny when you asked me, Hey, do you
speak fluent Spanish? It's like, no, I just looked this way,
you know, I was like, man, I got, I always
tell people, um, I have maybe 30 seconds of a
conversation in Spanish and then I'm like, OK, I'll be
calling for my wife or someone else like, Hey, you know,
this person wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I just tell people now if they ask me
if I speak Spanish, I say poquito that way it
keeps their expectations low and then you know they don't
Speaker 2 (31:05):
then you get tested, yes.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think it's improved over the years, but that's
Speaker 2 (31:10):
good.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
888-564-6173 is the number. Let's take a question that was
sent in on Facebook. Wendy wrote in. Would you speak
on or address the question regarding cremation, whether it is
a sin or not?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Hm.
Yeah, you know, I've, I've heard this question being asked
on pastor's perspective and also personally to me several times
um in regards to like cremation and everything and
Is it a sin? The answer is no. it's, it
is not a sin. Um, I, I love the answer
that Pastor Chuck gives. It's like, uh, cremation does what
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in 30 minutes, what 30 years will do, you know, uh,
to a person who has been buried, um, uh, in the,
in the grave in a casket. And so it is,
is it a sin? No, it is not a sin.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I've often heard also that people, Christians are afraid to
get cremated because they think, OK, when the rapture takes place,
What's going to happen to all of our particles that
have been, you know, burned up or whatever? How, how
will we be resurrected?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
And I would say this that add to that is like,
you know, that would not be a problem for God.
He is the creator of all things, you know, we
think of, you know, God created everything. He just spoke.
He said, Let there be light and there was light,
you know, and, um, and so as, as our creator
that would not be a problem for God at all.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Very true, Wendy, thank you for sending in your question
on Facebook. And uh here's the, here's the one that
was sent in on uh Kwave.com. And uh let's see,
my 34 year old son is schizotepi, if I'm saying
that right, I'm sorry if I'm not, uh, he has ADHD.
Uh, I don't drink or smoke, and I encourage him
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to do the same as I every chance I get.
I've done everything I can to help my son. Take
him to the Department of Mental Health, medication, which he
takes sparingly, got him on a housing program. I help
him with grocery runs, he doesn't know how to drive,
do his laundry, clean his place, etc. He's happy as
a lark, living his life, smoking marijuana, living in a
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home of disarray.
That's if I don't show up to assist him with
his one bedroom apartment by cleaning, organizing, throwing out the trash.
If I didn't do that, he would live in squalor.
I feel I've done everything I can for him. He
used to be homeless. I feel good that he at
least now has a home. I'm torn because he's living
his life, but I'm miserable. I help him with his SSI, housing,
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food voucher program certification or recertifications. I remind him, but
he still forgets, so I've got to do it all
for him.
And, uh, fix his cases. Uh, I, I want to
leave California, I want to move to a different state
where my family lives, Arkansas. Would it be right to
leave my son here in California? He's already let me
know he will not leave California, but I don't want
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to stay here.
What do you say? This is also a situation like
we just had with Bill and his daughter. This is,
I mean, it's a family thing and uh what would
you
say?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know, these are very challenging and difficult things that
that families go through, you know, like this, um, when
there's an illness, because that's what this is. There's a,
this is a severe illness, you know, sounds like schizophrenia
or something like that. And, um, and to be the
one like the, the caretaker for
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You know, your adult child that is exhibiting these things,
you know, is very taxing and, you know, those are
one of those things, you know, that I would just
really like if you have
Other family members that you can connect with and and
get some counsel on and you know because obviously they
would know the situation a lot uh more intimately, um,
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all the other details and that was a that would
be the one thing that I would encourage someone to
do is like, man, connect with your family, the people
that are close to the situation that know you that are.
Understand all these things and the severity of it so
that it can help you make that decision because I'm
sure as a parent, you just don't wanna, you know,
no parent wants to just leave their child, you know,
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and just, OK, I, I'm done with you and, and,
you know, especially with an illness like this, you know,
understanding that, you know, hey, without the proper care, this
is not going to be a healthy ending for, you know,
for your son or for your daughter that's in this situation. So.
That would be the one thing that I would encourage
is to do that. And also, you know, just look
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into the resources, you know, sometimes.
I think families, uh, a lot, you know, that are
have children or or brothers and sisters, you know, with
severe illnesses, uh, a lot of times it's like the
family just takes on that responsibility of caring for, uh,
and doing the best that they can without looking to
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the resources that might be available, you know, um.
Within, you know, like, like within the county or the
city or something like that. And so they're doing it
and it's just, it just so taxing because it, it
just really, you know, it becomes everything. They don't have
another life, you know, they can't do these things. Even
I even think in the, in the case of like,
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you know, some, some families with the elderly, you know, um,
with their elderly parents that might develop dementia and, and,
you know, these types of other illnesses.
They want, you know, we want to care for our parents,
you know, we're told to, you know, as we said,
we're told to honor them, but not equipped to do
it properly and and and then when you're attempting to
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do it, it just you, you, you're serving out of frustration,
you're being there, you're being there for your kids or
for your parents or whomever might have this illness, you're you're,
you're doing these things, you know, from a place of
like frustration.
And and not comfortable. I just want to get in
and out, take care of these things, and no longer
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is like, man, I'm gonna, I want to spend some
quality time, you know, and I think that's where like
looking to resources and other outside, you know, medical facilities
or whatnot.
To come alongside to take care of those day to
day things, so it gives you the time and the
freedom to actually meet be mom, you know, to your
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son who has this illness. I just want to be
there and to love and to, you know, just to,
you know, be, uh, uh, you know, that way you
can see a familiar face and, and then.
Enjoy some time rather than man, I just got to
go and I got to clean his house and I
got to do all these other things because then it
just develops, you know, kind of frustration. I'm sure there's,
you know, again, just getting some counsel with family and
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and looking to some other resources that can help, you know,
that way you can actually do the things that you
feel God is leading you to do.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, and I think as a mom, she'll she might
always have that mom guilt where she she felt like, yeah,
I'm moving to Arkansas, and then 3 days later she's like,
I got to go back. I mean, she's going to
be wondering, has he taken out his trash? Has he
done his laundry and just all this stuff, but like
you say, I mean, there's got to be the
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This is like a tough love situation here where she's,
she can come visit, she can call him on the phone,
but it's like, I'm not doing this for you
anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, and I think it's got that's where, you know,
just getting the counsel and and looking to, you know,
just getting the counsel with people that might be familiar,
a little bit more familiar with the severity of everything
can help her make that decision because, you know, Arkansas.
You know that that's, that's far, you know, um, you
want it's far from California, you know, and it's not
just a, a day's drive like, you know, moving to
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Nevada or something like that or Arizona, it's, you know,
that's a, it's a lengthy drive and, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
All right. Here's another question that was sent in online.
It's from Frank, who wants to know if the wine
Jesus drank had alcohol, which is a question we sometimes get,
you know, was it wine? Was it grape juice? But
Frank takes it a step further. He says, if it
did have alcohol, how much do you think Jesus drank?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, OK, well, uh, to answer your question, yes, I
do believe that there was alcohol, you know, this, there
was wine in there was alcohol in wine.
And I, you know, as far as how much did
Jesus drink, um, for sure it wasn't, he didn't drink
to the point where he was intoxicated, that's for sure, because,
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you know, that drunkenness is a sin and we know
that Jesus didn't sin, you know, and, um, so to
answer your question, I know there are a lot of
people that might even think that, oh no, it was
just grape juice and all this other stuff, but I
don't believe that, you know, wine was, um.
Uh, made or or created during that time without alcohol.
(39:54):
There was alcohol in it, you know, but, um, there
wasn't Jesus didn't consume the wine for drunkenness or to
get drunk at
all.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So, in Matthew 11, I had to look this up
real quick. Um, the son of man came eating and drinking,
and they say, here is a glutton and a drunkard,
a friend of tax collectors and sinners. So,
Uh, they meaning the Pharisees, and they were right. Jesus
was a friend of tax collectors and sinners. Therefore, were
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they right when they, when they said he's a glutton
and a drunkard, because maybe, you know, you could look
at this and say, oh, they were just exaggerating, they
were just saying, oh yeah, look at this guy, he
does all these things, but, but some of the things
that they uh accused him of are true, so is
it possible that he was
A glutton and a drunkard based on that verse.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Is it possible? No, again, uh, no, because he is
God and he didn't sin. He was found with no
sin in him, and he was perfect, the only perfect
person to walk the face of the planet, and I think,
you know, when
You know, when we think of these passages and Jesus,
you know, being in these places, you know, uh, with, uh,
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you know, drunkards and with sinners, that's exactly who he
came to save. You know, Jesus came to save the lost.
And, um, and, and that's who he connected with. And, um,
you know, he, you know, a lot of times I
hear people say, and I even say this at times,
you know, if Jesus was, you know, walking on the
face of the planet now and in 2025, would, you know,
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would he be just, you know, locked up in the,
you know, just in the, in the walls of the
church or would he be, would he be walking, you know,
the streets, you know, the, the, the in the.
Rallies would he be talking and connecting with, you know,
gang members and, you know, on the street corners talking
to prostitutes and and sharing and I believe he would,
I believe he would be doing these things, you know,
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and just as he was, you know, when he did
during his ministry here doing miracles and bringing deliverance, you know,
to people who were demon possessed, you know, healing the blind,
he was out in the community, out in these in
the highways and the byways as as the Bible says
and so, um.
So for him to have this, you know, be accused
of the Pharisees, because the Pharisees, they were the ones
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that were like they would not associate themselves with anybody,
you know, who would have this kind of lifestyle at all.
They would look down on them and they would point
the finger, you know, and, you know.
Just kind of have this divisiveness, you know, and be
divided from them, but Jesus, he was the one bridging
the gap to all, you know, to those that were
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in sin and, you know, drunkards and in the highways
and the byways and and all those things. And so
that was their accusation towards towards Jesus.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
All right, Frank, thank you for sending in your questions
through the pastor's perspective page on Kwave.com, which is how
Brittany sent her question in as well. Brittany asks, does
the Bible mention anything about the wildfires that are going
on right now in our nation?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Uh, no, the Bible doesn't.
Mention anything specifically on the wildfires that we see that
that's happening, you know, um, in our nation or in California.
I know that there's some fires even currently at, at
least last night I saw somewhere in Los Angeles County
I believe up up and um.
(43:21):
You know, LA County, some wildfires, but specifically those things, no. I,
I think if we were to look at what Jesus
does say or what the Bible does say, you know,
in regards to just a lot of the stuff that
we do see in our world.
Um, would be on the, the, during the all of
it discourse when, when, you know, the, the disciples are
asking Jesus the question, when will we know and when
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you come back, you know, when we want to know
the timeline kind of a thing, and, and Jesus begins
to say, hey, when you see all these things happening,
you know, the wars, the rumors of wars and famines
and kind of just all the stuff that we might,
I would say that we're getting to see, you know,
and currently in our world, um, more and more.
Jesus said, hey, when you see all these things happen,
look up for your redemption, your redemption draws near. And so,
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you know, we live in a fallen world and um
you know, there is sin, there's there's destruction, there's natural
disasters that we see, you know, from volcanoes, earthquakes and
fires and and these types of things, you know, there's
the wars and the rumors of wars and the famines,
you know, all this stuff.
And it's just points to the fact that we live
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in a fallen world, we need a savior and um
and Jesus is our savior. And, and so, you know,
when I, when I encourage people like not to focus
so much on all the destructive things and, and all,
you know, the, the evil and, and because that can
bring a sense of fear and fear is crippling for
a lot of people. People, you know, see these things
and they, you know, uh, tsunamis there was like a
(44:49):
tsunami warning like a couple of weeks ago or something
like that, you know, and.
You know, there's people like, man, I'm not gonna go
to the beach, you know, I was like, dude, that was,
that was a week ago, you know, and you're still
worried about a tsunami. It's like, you know, but again,
how fear is so crippling. I think even we can
look at, uh, you know, after COVID, you know, in 2020.
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Um, how many people are just from that moment, from
that season or so crippled with fear, you know, with,
with germs and not going out anymore, and doing all
these other things. There's still people that are very, you know, um,
just crippled with this fear. And I say, you know,
when we're focusing on all these things, rather than looking up,
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rather than saying, hey, you know what, what is God
wanting me to do? Who is, you know, what what's
he doing in my life? Um.
That it can be very crippling. And so I would
encourage people like don't get so caught up in in
all of the the fearful things that we see in
our world because we do live in a fallen world,
but let's get, you know, just stay focused on Jesus,
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on his purposes, on his plans that he has for
us that we would continue to move forward.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, I saw something in the news recently that in
China there's a new mosquito-borne virus. It's called the
Chikungunya, I don't even know how to say it, but again,
they're just starting to tell us about what's going on.
7000 people have gotten sick and all this other stuff, and,
and now they're wondering, is it going to come to
America and, and just all this stuff that's going on.
(46:17):
And there was a lady I saw her on social
media recently and uh every post, like 90% of her
posts are
Just about how bad this current administration is and everything
else and it's like, OK, fine, whatever you want to think, right?
And then there was this uh other post, hey, if
everybody could please pray for me, I'm, I'm having
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Uh, I have high blood pressure and, and everything else,
and my doctor says, and I felt like replying, you
know what, stop watching the news, and I bet you
that would help you because you're so focused on everything
that's going on everywhere and, um, yeah, just people are
are so afraid of either politics or viruses or
whatever,
Speaker 2 (46:59):
something, you know, there's there's there's always going to be
something and and you know, just looking at this here
with the mosquitoes, it's like, oh man.
I hate mosquitoes, you know, they they seem to be everywhere,
but again, it's like just for anybody like seeing these things,
it can be so crippling, you know, especially now like a,
a season of mosquitoes, probably people listening right now, they're,
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they're like, yeah, we've got a lot of bunch of
mosquitoes in my backyard or something like that, you know,
and now it's like, oh, I'm not gonna go in
my backyard. What if it's one of those mosquitoes? And
it's just like this, this fear, so let's just keep
on trusting Jesus, look up, you know, and.
Um, just live for Jesus. Let's go make much for Jesus.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Amen. Brittany, thank you for sending in your question online. Uh,
here's Anthony's question. He's in San Fernando and he wrote
in on Facebook. What are the factors that it's the
right time from God that I should start to pursue
a woman or start dating in order to get married?
Or is there a book in the Bible that can
help me know when it's the right time to date
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or look for a spouse?
Speaker 2 (48:03):
There's nothing that I can think of specifically in the
Bible that says, OK, this is the time now for
you to go and, and find your spouse, your, your, uh,
you know, the person that you're gonna live the rest
of your life with. I, I think, you know, when
we are
You know, when the Lord brings that person and that's
kind of how I always communicate, you know, it's like, hey,
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when you're just don't focus so much on I have
to have, you know, my soul mate and get married
because you know you can be, you can deceive yourself
into a relationship that the Lord isn't doesn't have for you,
but once the Lord.
brings that relationship into your life. It is going to
be so obvious, not just to you and to the
other person, but I think a lot of times it's
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going to be obvious uh with the people that are
closest to you, like, hey, you know, there's something going
on here in this relationship, you know, and you're going
to be supported in all of those things, you know,
and so
And there's no specific Bible verse or or place in
the Bible that I can think of that says, OK,
now is the time for you to go and find
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your spouse and and to get married or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, there's such a pressure it seems on singles to
find someone and, and I think even
You know, churches that have singles ministries, a lot of
times people will, I think their goal maybe is to
go on to find that special someone and but that's
not really the, that shouldn't be the goal of a
singles ministry, would you say?
Speaker 2 (49:30):
No, not, not at all. I think the goal of
any ministry within the church is really to, you know,
to highlight Jesus and and to bring glory to the Lord,
you know, and whatever those relationships might be, but you know,
you bring something up.
Bro, that that I've actually been thinking of um a lot,
you know, um, here recently because I know that like
uh most churches and including ours at Hope of Life Church,
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you know, when, when we're giving a sermon or something
like that, you know, when I'm doing a sermon, a
lot of times I, I, I may or one of
the other pastors may, you know, make a an illustration
um about our Christian life in regards to our marriage
or in the home with, you know, husbands and wives,
you know, this is what it's like.
And, and I, what I've been, this is what I've
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been thinking of is like, man, we say that often
and I get, I think everybody gets it. No one
is being offended. I don't believe anybody's being offended or anything,
but I begin to think like, you know,
Speaker 1 (50:24):
people get offended over everything
Speaker 2 (50:25):
nowadays.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, you know
Speaker 1 (50:27):
that one guy that stopped going to church? It's probably
because I'm joking I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
But you know, it's like, uh, but I, I, I've
been thinking about like, you know, what about, you know,
finding illustrations not only like a marriage illustration, you know, to,
you know, or use marriage as an illustration, you know,
or to talk about, you know, when we're at the pulpit,
but what about the single person?
You know, talking about, you know, their life and, and
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not excluding but just hey they're being thought of and
this is again this is something I've just been thinking of,
you know, thinking about like, hey, what if I was
single and I always hear like the pastors just talk
about marriages and all this and other that, you know,
what about me? you know, I'm not married I am single,
you know, is there is there.
Ever going to be an illustration or is there going
to be something that's going to be I can really
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relate to, you know, because sometimes, you know, you're talking
these illustrations and and marriage and all that some people
can just like, well, that doesn't apply to me because
I'm not married, you know, um, so I don't know,
it's just something I've been thinking about.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
You know what's funny is, is life, even though you
could say that the world is very anti-marriage, it seems.
It's just about the hookup culture and all that other stuff, right?
But
But you brought up a good point that churches, pastors
will often use illustrations regarding family life and everything, but,
but even like you go to a place like Costco,
(51:49):
like do single people shop at Costco and buy like
tons and tons of SpaghettiO's and because it's bulk, it's
mostly families that go there. So again, it's set up, you,
you buy in bulk, you get the discount, and so, yeah, just.
A random thought.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just a random thought, you know,
it's something that, uh, I, I think of as a
pastor is like, OK, you know, because there's, there's uh
it's not everybody who comes to Hope of Life Church
is married. We have a, we have plenty of men
and women that are single and I know that in
these men and women that are single, they're, they're finding,
you know, their hope and trust and and their strength
(52:24):
and Jesus and and the Lord and, and, um, you know, so.
Yeah, anyways, something I think about.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yes, all right, here's uh one more question that I
think we'll have time for. It was sent in online anonymously,
which you can send in your questions. We don't have
to say your name or you can change your name
when you call us, um, but, uh, this question here,
why is it that God is not allowing my husband
to work while he is
Still capable. He is on his way to becoming legally blind.
(52:52):
Every day passes, he loses more of his eyesight. It'll
be a matter of a couple of years before darkness
kicks in. But right now, he's unable to find work, and, uh,
we're in a phase of losing hope. We're not capable
now to believe that there is a reason for this.
What kind of hope do you offer to? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
You know, that is a a very challenging one and, and, uh,
so sorry for whoever's writing this and I'm sure there's
probably other people that are might find themselves in the
same kind of a, a place right now where just the,
you know, the place just to find a job is
can be challenging right now and it's for a lot
of people, you know, whether they, they have an illness or, or,
(53:31):
you know, some kind of a handicap or not, you know, um,
it is challenging and
I would encourage them, you know, just keep doing what
you can, keep pressing in, um, and doing what it
is that you can to provide for yourself and, and
finding that right job. Keep don't, don't ever give up,
you know, God knows the situation, God, and that's where
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our trust comes in the Lord, you know, in all
of these things, we just, OK, Lord, I just want
to trust in you and all of this and keep
doing the best that you can. Don't, don't give up.
And I think that's the easy part, right? I sometimes
we can
You know, we want to do our very best. We're
we're searching, we're, you know, looking for a job or
something like that, but then the frustration can kick in
(54:14):
and everything else and we just easily give up. And
I think that's, that's where the enemy would want us
to be is to give up because it's not just
giving up you know on looking for a job, but
giving up on hope, giving up on.
Jesus giving up on, you know, the leading of the
Lord and just like just doing the best you can
to be as diligent as you possibly can without stopping.
(54:36):
And God in his favor and his grace, you know,
he will, he will see us through. He will provide
and you know that's the encouragement that I would give
is don't give up, you know, and you know, again,
my heart breaks and it's just like those are sad situations.
Um, but don't ever
Speaker 1 (54:52):
give up. I think the frustration too, and we don't
know the whole backstory here in this situation, but if
it's a couple that has served the Lord all their lives,
and they've always had that hope that he's gonna see
them through and now he's not seeing them through. So
there's that.
Temptation, you could say to just walk away and, and
not hang in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2 (55:12):
you know, there was that temptation, but then, yeah, I'm
reminded of Abraham and Sarah in the Bible, you know,
and God gave them a promise and it didn't happen overnight,
you know, and they attempted in their own flesh and
God said, hey, that's the work of the flesh, that's
not the promise, and they continued to wait.
And God gave them a son of promise. Eventually God's
word and promises came
Speaker 1 (55:32):
forth. Yes, they did. Tommy Coda, thank you for joining
me today on Pastor's Perspective.
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (55:38):
I'll
Speaker 2 (55:38):
do it again.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
What time are
your services
on
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Sunday every Sunday 9 a.m. in Spanish and 11 a.m.
in English,
Speaker 1 (55:44):
28. I thought you didn't speak Spanish,
Speaker 2 (55:46):
and that's not me, bro.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
We gotta have him come in next time and then, uh, yeah,
we'll take some questions. All right guys, God bless you.
We'll see you at church on Sunday and then we'll
take your calls again on Monday here on Pastor's Perspective.
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Koda in the studio today. He's the pastor of Hope
Alive Church in Santa Ana. Tommy, good to see you, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Good to see you. Good, good to be here, man.
What a, what a blessing and a happy Friday for everybody.
Everyone's been blessed.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, what's new with you? How did the backpack
Speaker 2 (01:50):
last week. So yeah, thank you all for praying and
and uh thank you for asking, bro. We we had
a great time. Um, you know, we were able to receive, um,
about 150 backpacks and a whole lot more of school supplies,
and this is something we've actually been doing.
Annually and we just do it as a as an
(02:12):
opportunity for us to, you know, evangelize and share the
gospel and and uh within an hour all those backpacks
and all the school supplies were were distributed, but more
more importantly, man, was the gospel was shared with so
many people that came through and and conversations with with
people and.
You know, it's really cool because sometimes, uh, you know,
(02:33):
when you drive up to our church building it, it doesn't,
you know, it doesn't have a steeple or a cross
on the top of the building or anything like that
and so it can, you know, be easily missed as
a church and so a lot of the people in
the in the local community there were like, man, I
didn't know this was a church, you know, and, and, uh,
you know, and so the invitation to to come and,
and to worship and to join us, you know, it
(02:54):
was really cool because this past Wednesday.
At her at her midweek Bible study, uh, a young family,
you know, had shown up a single mom. She had
shown up with her little kids and everything, you know, well,
she was there, but then she came to church on Wednesday,
you know, just to hang out and fellowship with us
and all that. Yeah, yeah. So it was really cool
just and to hear her a little bit more, say,
you know, she's been looking for a church and all
(03:15):
that so.
Uh, that was, that was a blessing, you know, and, uh,
but really our heart is as, uh, as Hope Life
Church is, you know, to be outside the walls of
the church as much as we possibly can to share
the gospel and to be the light, you know, in
this world that we live here in, in the city
of Santa Ana and, you know, it's just, uh, it's
awesome to be a part of that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh, you're right, the church is hard to find or
hard to see. I remember driving on Bristol one time
and I just happened to look up and it's like, oh, what?
It was that was, you know, so then on the
way back when I returned from whatever I was doing,
I looked over and I'm like, that's Hope Life Church.
I knew it was on Bristol. I just didn't know where,
but yeah, it's right there. For those of you familiar
with the area.
(03:56):
It's um, for the Burlington Coat Factory and the Aldi
over here in Santa Ana. It's across the street from
that
Speaker 2 (04:02):
right across the street, yeah. I think if you're from
Orange County, especially, you might be familiar with Bristol Street
in Santa Ana. Bristol Streets, you know, is one of
the streets where everybody in Orange County, where a lot
of people at least would go and cruise and and
all that stuff. So Bristol.
Street is very familiar. We're on South Bristol, yes, right
between Sigerstrom and Warner. We'd like to have you come visit.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yep, and, uh, you can get all those details at
Hope AliveSantaAna.com, right? Yep. Hey, I got it. All right. 888-564-6173.
Let's answer at least one question that was sent in online.
This one is from Michael, who asks, how does how
does one reconcile these two truths? Jesus died for all
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of our sins, and
If you don't forgive your brother, then God won't forgive you. Tommy,
what do you tell
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Michael? Yeah, you know, Michael, that's a, that's a great question,
and you know, when I think of this.
Question and when I think of, you know, just the
forgiveness of God and what he's forgiving me of.
And when when a person is able to also extend
that same kind of forgiveness, it's a reflection of understanding
(05:13):
what true forgiveness is that that person has truly been
forgiven by God. Now, I think sometimes where a lot
of people might have a challenge in all of this
is that
They think, you know, OK, if I, you know, I
have to forgive the wrong that's been towards me now
it's like I have to, you know, I, I have
(05:34):
to invite them to Christmas dinner and and to we
we have to have this very close relationship and there
are certain things in life where forgiveness is important. In
other words, what it means when we forgive other people
is that we are giving.
All of those things over to God and this person,
I'm not allowing this, you know, whatever circumstance, whatever it
(05:57):
was that I, I'm having a hard time to forgive
him or her of not to control me no longer.
I am a child of God. I've been forgiven and
I want to forgive others, but it doesn't always mean
You know that I now I'm gonna be inviting this
person over for Christmas dinner and we're gonna have this
very close relationship any longer because there are certain things
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in life where, you know, hey, I can forgive you
and I can give this all over to the Lord,
but you know, maybe the relationship has been broken.
And you know I need to move forward and that
person needs to go on their way and everything else
like that. But sometimes I think when people think of this,
they think, you know, that there has to be this,
you know, there is reconciliation we, we pray for that,
(06:39):
but there are times when I think, you know, when
there's been some extreme harm done to a person.
That yeah, it doesn't always mean that you're gonna invite
them over to to dinner and everything else like that,
but when it comes to forgiveness and forgiving others just
the way that Christ has forgiven us, I really do
believe it's a reflection of under truly understanding that we
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have been forgiven, you know, by a holy God, and
I want to surrender all these things as well.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So
reconciliation is the goal, but it's not always possible.
So therefore, forgive and forget is not necessarily something that's,
I mean, we should forgive, but it doesn't necessarily mean
we have to forget.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1 (07:23):
because some things you can't forget, you can't just, well,
it's not that you can't forget. I, I guess it's
if it's going to cause harm to yourself or to
a family member, then you should not forget the the
danger that this person put you in last time, so.
Yeah, could forgive them,
Speaker 2 (07:38):
but exactly, you know, and, and it's just like, you know,
thinking in a practical sense it's like, man, there are
certain things in life, you know, like, for instance, you know,
just like, uh, sexual molestation, you know, that's a very
severe thing, you know, and it's just like, OK, I
can forgive this person who has done this thing, you know, and,
(07:59):
and that's, and that's the work of the Holy Spirit.
And again, I think that's a reflection of understanding I've
been forgiven.
You know, and who am I? I am not greater
than God, you know, and God is the one who forgives,
you know, I wanna forgive this person, um, because I
don't want this unforgiveness to have control over my emotions
(08:20):
and everything. However, it doesn't mean that I'm gonna now
begin to invite this person to, you know, have this
close relationship any longer. It's like, no, there's a, there's a,
there's a.
boundary that I'm not going to, you know, get close to,
but hey, this, this, uh, it has no control over
me any longer because I have really surrendered it over
(08:40):
to the Lord.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, for sure. All right, uh, in Long Beach, thank
you for sending in that question on the Kwave.com pastor's
perspective page. And uh now let's go to the phones.
Here we have Leslie in Riverside. Welcome to Pastor's perspective, Leslie.
Hi, how are you doing, pastors? Hey Leslie. My, my,
(09:03):
my question is this, I have a friend and uh
we used to attend the same church together, but because
of distance, we haven't been able to like fellowship like
we used to. All right, so recently she tells me that,
you know,
That she's actually going to become a Muslim and I
(09:24):
was just so shocked. All right, because we had gone
to the same church for a long time and I
consider her a sister in Christ. Long story short, um,
I wanna know, I mean, is that, if she becomes
a Muslim, is that like blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
and will she lose her salvation?
(09:46):
Uh, is there anything you can tell me that can
help me minister to her so she doesn't make this mistake?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, you know, Leslie, that's a, that's a tough one
and that's, you know, really unfortunate to hear that your
friend has, you know, kind of gotten to this place
where she is now, like, in a sense, like we're
just saying rejecting, you know, the, the scriptures and the
gospel and now turning to.
To the Islamic faith, um, one of the things that
I would encourage you to do really is, is to continue,
(10:16):
number one is to pray. You know, I, I think
we sometimes we,
Speaker 1 (10:20):
we, yeah,
Speaker 2 (10:23):
yeah, that's good. Keep on doing, you know, be persistent
in your prayer and, you know, and I know sometimes
we can think of, you know, just praying as, as almost.
Like, well, that's just a cliche kind of an answer,
but it, it, it really truly isn't. This is one
of the gifts that God has given to us to
pray and to intercede and not to stop. And there's,
we believe that there's power in prayer, so continue to
(10:45):
pray in the way that you are, um, for her
and also continue to cultivate, uh, the relationship that you
have with her as a friend.
You know, and, um, and it sounds like you have
this background uh of, of knowing one another within, you know,
like going to church together and, you know, perhaps, uh,
(11:05):
you know, singing worship songs together and even praying together.
I would encourage you like to bring back those scriptures,
bring her, you know, just bring this the gospel message
to her again, just keep on doing that, you know,
not in a way where you're being, you know, offensive
to her or anything like that, but really in a
friendly way and in a in a godly way, but
(11:26):
also very truthful way, you know, um, because there you
she's going to have to make this decision. It's like, OK,
because sometimes I think people just get a little confused.
You know, they just like there's there, they begin to
wander and you know the Bible is very clear to
us and tells us like, you know, all these teachings
and all these other religious systems that are out there,
(11:46):
the enemy will use these things to manipulate, you know,
and to take advantage of those seasons and moments of
confusion and searching and
You know, um, and the, you know, we're told in
the Bible that the devil, he disguises himself as an
angel of light, and this might be something where she's
been persuaded in as something as good, and this is
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from the Lord, and, you know, reject Christianity and, and,
you know, become a Muslim.
And it's just one of those seasons that she's there.
And so the more of the truth of the gospel
that she hears, the better and keep on praying for her.
And at the end of the day, it is a
personal decision for your friend. We can't make the people
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we love or care about.
Um, we can't make them turn to God. This this
is a personal decision, and I do believe, you know,
the Holy Spirit speaks and the Holy Spirit works, and, um,
you know, so just keep on doing those things for
her and keep on praying for her.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Now Leslie, did your friend say why she stopped going
to church or why she decided to become a Muslim?
Yeah, I mean, she's had some like hard situations that's
recently come up in her life. And, um, anyway, you know,
with everything that's going on um in the world, you know,
(13:06):
she's been, she just said that she felt as being
a single woman, she just felt unprotected and then somebody started,
who was a woman who was Muslim started talking to
her and
You know, with these other ideas, and she said, well,
she felt like she'd be more protected, and I told
her not to worry about what's going on in the
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world because these things are going to happen and that's
just part of Jesus coming back. We're in the end
times and that I said we shouldn't be looking to
even a certain pastor or that we have to keep
our eyes focused on Jesus. And
So sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, you know, it's, it's interesting how how people in
vulnerable and vulnerable places in their life, you know, can really, um,
the enemy can take advantage of all those things, and
I think, you know, that's one of the important things
of
You know, just having a good, healthy, um, relationship with the,
the local body, the local church, you know, and being
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a part of the local church because it sounds like,
you know, Leslie's friend was just, uh, you know, in
a vulnerable place. There's fear and loneliness and all these
other things and that's really, you know, essential where the
local church can can be there to be a part
of the body of Christ, you know, and, and.
You know, essentially like, like, like the family of God
to find a home and to find some security, you know, and,
(14:36):
and Leslie, you're right, it is, it's, it's focused on Jesus.
It's not on any other person. However, I think, you know,
God, Jesus, Jesus, uh, designed the church, you know, this
is the church is Jesus' idea, you know, God's idea, and,
and it's for that purpose. We are connected one to
another to, you know, be there with for one another,
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have compassion for one another and, you know, to, to
really be connected as a body of Christ. And so I,
I would just encourage anybody else like maybe that might
be in this place, you know, vulnerability.
You know, really connect with your local church, you know,
and be open and, and share them, you know, just
share your issues and, and the, the places where you're
(15:18):
at so that you can prayerfully, you know, find that,
that piece that you're looking
for.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, I want to focus on something you said, Tommy,
and kind of goes back to what we talked about
earlier when it comes to forgiveness and not that Leslie
has to forgive her friend for becoming a Muslim, but, um,
just the whole thing about relationships, how
If they were close friends, Leslie can still invite her, hey,
let's go out to coffee, let's go out to lunch. Let's,
you know, and the, the focus, I mean, maybe before
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that's all they talked about. Maybe they shared notes of
what they learned at church or something, and now that
may not be as her friend may not want to
do that, but they can still talk about other things, right? Yeah,
Speaker 2 (15:59):
absolutely, and I, I think that's again just going back to.
You know, the importance of, you know, the church and
the relationships that we do have within the church, you know, um, we,
we develop, you know, just very extreme close friendships. I
think that's one of the reasons why we call one another,
you know, at church they hate, you know, brother, and
you know, hey, it's just because it, it's, uh, it
(16:19):
describes it illustrates that relationship that we do have with
with people, you know, and, and to lean into that
and to cultivate those relationships. And so if Leslie.
You know, has this kind of relationship. I, I would
encourage that, you know, just like, hey, let's go have
some lunch, you know, let's let's talk about Jesus. You know,
let's talk about Jesus like how we used to. Let's
talk about the gospel and, and, and, and grow in
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these things, you know, um, and not to have just
like a a pseudo relationship, you know, when it comes
to just church life and and sometimes I, you know,
I think about this sometimes like in the, in regards to.
You know, just Christianity and church life on, you know,
just here in our context, you know, uh, in, in
America or in Orange County for that matter is, you know, um, we,
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everybody seems to go to church, you know, they put
their Sunday clothes on, you know, their, their Sunday best,
you know, they got their big cheeseburger smile on and
you know, how's everything going and it's like, oh man,
everything's well, everything's good, you know, but sometimes, you know, it, it's,
we have to.
Communicate and and and just let one another know like
it's OK not to be OK. Like this is why
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we are here as a local church because we want to,
you know, go through our hurts together, you know, um, and,
and pray for one another and cultivate these relationships knowing
that it's, it's, you know, life isn't easy, man. It's,
it's hard, you know, and and the spiritual battle, it
is very, it is very real, you know, and it's um.
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And it's very important that we have these, these relationships
developed within the church and and within the body of Christ, uh,
not just to grow in our understanding in the word
of God, but I think to, to grow as, you know,
the church, the light of the world, you know, and
because that's when people see that and they, they begin
to say, man, I desire that same kind of relationship
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as well. So.
Yeah, it's very important.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Leslie, thank you for your phone call today here on
Pastor's Perspective. 888-564-6173 is the number for you to call
and ask Tommy Coda a question. He's the pastor of
Hope Alive Church in Santa Ana. And let's talk to
Pete in San Pedro. What did you want to know, Pete?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes, hi guys, um, I just would like to get
some scriptures that support pre-trib or you know, the, the
fact that the church is raptured before the tribulation period.
Yeah. Do you have any? Yeah, and I would say,
you know, Pete, um, one of the, the, the one
scripture that that I think of is in, uh, 1
(18:54):
Thessalonians in chapter 4, verse number 16, um, where it says, uh,
for the Lord Himself would descend from heaven with a
cry of com uh uh a cry of command with
the voice of an archangel and with the sound of
the trumpet of God and the dead in Christ will
rise first.
And, and so that's kind of one portion of scripture
where I, I believe that, you know, you can really
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look to in regards to pre-tribulation and, you know, there's
a lot of, there's a lot, there's, there are other
um positions on this, you know, whether it's pre-trib or
post-trip or or even mid-trib.
And there's a lot of great, you know, uh, biblical
instruction and, and in the sense like good arguments for,
for either one of these things and, and, uh, pre-trib
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is what is a position that I, um, hold to,
but I, I know that this is not like a
dogmatic thing to where we are going to die on
this hill, uh, for, for everything because, you know, who,
who knows, uh.
When it comes to this time, you know, the study
of eschatology is is very interesting because there there is
different positions on these things, you know, um, but this
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is one passage that I would say like to look
to and and to study on in regards to pre-tribulation.
So
Speaker 1 (20:08):
why
are you asking this question, Pete?
Well, it's for, uh, a relative of mine. Actually, he's
writing a book and um he just wanted to know,
he wanted
Speaker 2 (20:19):
my opinion
Speaker 1 (20:20):
on that. And I, I already believe I'm a pretty
tri believer, but he just asked me to try to get,
you know, some information for his book. And so, um,
that was.
That was the real
reason. Well, I hope you're going to get a writing
credit on this book, Pete, because if he's writing a
book and he's coming to you for information, I mean,
(20:41):
I don't know, I, I've never written a book, so
I don't know. But if, if, I mean, you would
think he'd be doing his own
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Pete's
part of the research team, I
Speaker 1 (20:49):
guess so, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a relative of mine.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Good stuff. So
Speaker 1 (20:53):
yeah, that's absolutely right,
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Ryan.
And um yeah, I have no um you know, you're right.
But I, if you have time, I just want to
get your theory real quick on um how the Great
Pyramids or the pyramids got, got there.
The pyramids in Egypt.
Yeah, is that like
(21:17):
Well, you know, I, we know that they're there in
Egypt and, and I believe that, uh, you know, that
the Egyptians, you know, and the pharaoh at that time
used uh the, the Jews to, to work as, as
slaves there for hundreds of years and, and so when, um,
and that's when Moses was delivered, so, uh, Moses was
(21:37):
used to, to bring deliverance for the, the, the people
of Israel. So.
You know, perhaps that's how they were. I know there's
a lot of TV shows and other things and articles
perhaps of UFOs and all these other things, uh, you know,
building these, uh, pyramids and and all that stuff, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Who knows? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Pete, thanks for your phone call today on Pastor's Perspective.
888-564-6173 is our number. We would love to hear from you.
We're gonna be here until 4 o'clock this afternoon, 888-564-6173.
Let's talk to Bill in Ontario who is listening on
FM 107.9 K wave. Hello, Bill, welcome. Hi, hi, hi,
(22:21):
how are you doing?
Uh, so let me make this question as short as possible. My, uh, my, um,
my daughter abandoned her kids, uh, when they were young,
and she came back into their life recently.
She had a heart attack.
Um, she told them they weren't, she wasn't doing drugs anymore,
but the med triggered her heart, triggered a heart attack.
(22:43):
It was in the system.
And now she's, uh, she's gonna be disabled, kind of,
and um the kids, they're not enthusiastic about
You know, helping her, you know, her moving with the,
I mean they'll say this, they'll come see her and
stuff like that, but as far as moving in with
them or anything like that, they're, they're not looking at
(23:06):
that at all. How old are the kids now, Bill?
Uh, one is 36. The oldest son is 36, the
oldest daughter is 2 uh 27, and then it's a
young daughter who's 21. OK. And have they, do they
have families of their own and everything? They're living on
their own? Yes, they, they all have families of their own, yes. OK.
(23:26):
And you say your daughter came back into their lives
before the heart attack or after?
Before the heart attack, OK, so she tried to make
reconciliation as we were talking about earlier in the program, um,
and then she had this heart attack and, uh, so
where's she staying now?
Now she's still in the hospital. She's, well, she's in
the hospital and then she's gonna be going to a
(23:47):
rehab center for a couple of months and then because
so she had a massive her heart only works 10%
right now, 10% right now, you know, but I, I
just wonder if are my kids wrong for feeling the
way they are because I can, I can relate because
I tried to help her and
I thought she was clean too, but I'm a father,
(24:07):
so I have to be there for her, but I'm really,
really upset about, about this and so are the kids,
but they refused to really do anything um.
Uh, you know, that's important to help her. And they're
refusing because of how she abandoned them in the past.
I don't know for sure, but I know, I know
(24:28):
that's part of it, but I, I do know because
my grandson told me, he said she, she, you know,
she lied to me. I brought her around my kids
and she was doing that stuff and
You know, so she, uh, I know he's, uh, he's
the oldest, so he remembers a lot when they, uh,
when the mother left. Yeah, yeah. Tommy, what do you
say to?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, you know, Bill, that's it. This is a tough
situation and then, you know, I just, I prayerfully she'll
be able to, uh, you know, really be healed from
this heart attack and everything and, and, um, you know,
a life of addiction is.
Um, it, it is bad. It, it is very destructive,
you know, as we see here with this situation and
that's going on and, you know, it sounds like, you know,
(25:10):
from what I understand that, you know, their mom, your
daughter made all the attempts, you know, to get to
a place where she's better, you know, and sobriety and
all these other things, you know, now she's got adult
children and
You know, what I would say, um, Bill, is that,
you know, resentment, um, that this is a, is a
heavy thing, you know, because this is what it sounds
(25:32):
like you're the, the kids may have some resentment and, and,
you know, some, as you said, you know, anger, you know,
towards having now to kind of in a sense stop
their life perhaps because they need to be there to
help mom and, and to do all these things when,
you know, there's uh there's a past, there's a history of,
of just pretty much destruction.
(25:52):
And you know, I don't know, are, are your, are
as the family, are the kids, are they saved? Are they,
you know, do they believe in Jesus?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yes, I, I, I, I know my grandson told me
he was a Christian several times and uh my two daughters,
I'm not.
Totally sure, but I know they do attend church.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
OK. Yeah, you know, so, well, this, that's a, that's
a big thing, you know, because that's
Speaker 1 (26:16):
when
Speaker 2 (26:16):
they
Speaker 1 (26:16):
were kids.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, OK. Yeah, because that's what I kind of wanted
to just if from that standpoint, hey, being a Christian,
being a believer, that means, you know, hey, you know,
there's all things are new, and one of the things
that we are called to do is is to serve
and to be there for our families and to do
what it is that we can.
You know, and to lay aside, you know, the resentment
(26:37):
and all these other things and just not allow these
things because that's really
You know, a work of the flesh, you know, the
flesh will cause, you know, this, this anger towards, you know,
other people. And so that's the work of the flesh and,
and so just yielding and surrendering to the work of
the Holy Spirit, you know, then, then those virtues of
(26:59):
the spirit, you know, the love, joy, and the peace,
then they can operate from there and I would say,
you know, encourage you to
Really pour into them and and to really encourage them like, hey,
this is your mom and and this is what God
would want them to do. Now, you know what that like,
what that looks like and the severity of her, you know,
her illness and and the heart attack and being handicapped
(27:21):
and everything, maybe they're they are not equipped medically to
take care of all of those needs, but to actually
And be there and to be supportive of these things.
That's something that they can do, especially as being adults
and as being Christians is like, hey, you know, I
can't let this resentment really dictate to me of how
I treat my family. You know this, you know, regardless
(27:44):
of what the behavior was like and I know there's
probably a lot of stories and trauma and heartache that
has been caused because of addiction.
But again, going back to like forgiveness and reconciliation, and
it sounds like there's been sobriety and, and now the result,
you know, has of a of a life of addiction
has been, you know, a heart attack and, and, you know,
(28:06):
these things.
Medical issues, you know, I, I would say, you know,
this would be the, the best thing to do, and
the one thing that would bring glory to God is,
is all of these things, but, you know, obviously they
can only do as much as they're, they're capable of
doing because if there's more medical attention that need that
needs to be had, then, you know, maybe they're not
equipped to do those
(28:26):
things.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, we're coming up to a break, but I wanted
to ask you, Tommy, um,
Perhaps, yeah, perhaps they're thinking we can't take care of
mom because of all these physical things that she needs,
medical things. Uh, we're living in a small two bedroom apartment.
Where are we going to put Mom? We can't afford
to move into a bigger house. As Christians, we're told
(28:47):
to honor our parents.
So where does, where do we draw the line on that?
What if, what if we can't afford? What does it
mean to honor your parents? Yeah,
Speaker 2 (28:56):
well, you know, I, what it means to honor our
parents is exactly that honor them, you know, this is,
you know, God, they, they gave birth, you know, she
gave birth to, you know, our parents that, you know,
birthed us and, and they did the best that they can,
you know, I, and.
I would say in in this kind of a situation
regardless of like, you know, they have brothers and sisters,
(29:17):
they can come collectively together and there's a bunch of
resources that are available that are out there, you know,
from the county to the city to the state, you know,
look to these resources to get the help and to
find the help that they need.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.
All right, Bill, thank you for your phone call today
here on Pastor's Perspective. 888-564-6173 is the number to call.
We would love to hear from you. What kind of
questions do you have about the Bible, about the Christian faith,
about life in general? You can give us a call.
Tommy Coda will be here for another 30 minutes at 888-564-6173.
(29:51):
And yes, we are live. If you're listening on Friday afternoon,
the 8th of August, give us a call 888-564-6173.
(30:17):
888-564-6173. That's the number to call us today here on
Pastor's Perspective. Brian Perez and Tommy Coda here despite our surnames. Yeah,
we can speak a little bit of Spanish. I was
gonna say let's open up the phone lines for people
to ask us their questions in Spanish, but between the
two of us, I don't think we could.
Anything I know that
Speaker 2 (30:37):
that was funny when you asked me, Hey, do you
speak fluent Spanish? It's like, no, I just looked this way,
you know, I was like, man, I got, I always
tell people, um, I have maybe 30 seconds of a
conversation in Spanish and then I'm like, OK, I'll be
calling for my wife or someone else like, Hey, you know,
this person wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I just tell people now if they ask me
if I speak Spanish, I say poquito that way it
keeps their expectations low and then you know they don't
Speaker 2 (31:05):
then you get tested, yes.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think it's improved over the years, but that's
Speaker 2 (31:10):
good.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
888-564-6173 is the number. Let's take a question that was
sent in on Facebook. Wendy wrote in. Would you speak
on or address the question regarding cremation, whether it is
a sin or not?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Hm.
Yeah, you know, I've, I've heard this question being asked
on pastor's perspective and also personally to me several times
um in regards to like cremation and everything and
Is it a sin? The answer is no. it's, it
is not a sin. Um, I, I love the answer
that Pastor Chuck gives. It's like, uh, cremation does what
(31:49):
in 30 minutes, what 30 years will do, you know, uh,
to a person who has been buried, um, uh, in the,
in the grave in a casket. And so it is,
is it a sin? No, it is not a sin.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I've often heard also that people, Christians are afraid to
get cremated because they think, OK, when the rapture takes place,
What's going to happen to all of our particles that
have been, you know, burned up or whatever? How, how
will we be resurrected?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
And I would say this that add to that is like,
you know, that would not be a problem for God.
He is the creator of all things, you know, we
think of, you know, God created everything. He just spoke.
He said, Let there be light and there was light,
you know, and, um, and so as, as our creator
that would not be a problem for God at all.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Very true, Wendy, thank you for sending in your question
on Facebook. And uh here's the, here's the one that
was sent in on uh Kwave.com. And uh let's see,
my 34 year old son is schizotepi, if I'm saying
that right, I'm sorry if I'm not, uh, he has ADHD.
Uh, I don't drink or smoke, and I encourage him
(32:57):
to do the same as I every chance I get.
I've done everything I can to help my son. Take
him to the Department of Mental Health, medication, which he
takes sparingly, got him on a housing program. I help
him with grocery runs, he doesn't know how to drive,
do his laundry, clean his place, etc. He's happy as
a lark, living his life, smoking marijuana, living in a
(33:19):
home of disarray.
That's if I don't show up to assist him with
his one bedroom apartment by cleaning, organizing, throwing out the trash.
If I didn't do that, he would live in squalor.
I feel I've done everything I can for him. He
used to be homeless. I feel good that he at
least now has a home. I'm torn because he's living
his life, but I'm miserable. I help him with his SSI, housing,
(33:41):
food voucher program certification or recertifications. I remind him, but
he still forgets, so I've got to do it all
for him.
And, uh, fix his cases. Uh, I, I want to
leave California, I want to move to a different state
where my family lives, Arkansas. Would it be right to
leave my son here in California? He's already let me
know he will not leave California, but I don't want
(34:03):
to stay here.
What do you say? This is also a situation like
we just had with Bill and his daughter. This is,
I mean, it's a family thing and uh what would
you
say?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know, these are very challenging and difficult things that
that families go through, you know, like this, um, when
there's an illness, because that's what this is. There's a,
this is a severe illness, you know, sounds like schizophrenia
or something like that. And, um, and to be the
one like the, the caretaker for
(34:34):
You know, your adult child that is exhibiting these things,
you know, is very taxing and, you know, those are
one of those things, you know, that I would just
really like if you have
Other family members that you can connect with and and
get some counsel on and you know because obviously they
would know the situation a lot uh more intimately, um,
(34:59):
all the other details and that was a that would
be the one thing that I would encourage someone to
do is like, man, connect with your family, the people
that are close to the situation that know you that are.
Understand all these things and the severity of it so
that it can help you make that decision because I'm
sure as a parent, you just don't wanna, you know,
no parent wants to just leave their child, you know,
(35:20):
and just, OK, I, I'm done with you and, and,
you know, especially with an illness like this, you know,
understanding that, you know, hey, without the proper care, this
is not going to be a healthy ending for, you know,
for your son or for your daughter that's in this situation. So.
That would be the one thing that I would encourage
is to do that. And also, you know, just look
(35:41):
into the resources, you know, sometimes.
I think families, uh, a lot, you know, that are
have children or or brothers and sisters, you know, with
severe illnesses, uh, a lot of times it's like the
family just takes on that responsibility of caring for, uh,
and doing the best that they can without looking to
(36:02):
the resources that might be available, you know, um.
Within, you know, like, like within the county or the
city or something like that. And so they're doing it
and it's just, it just so taxing because it, it
just really, you know, it becomes everything. They don't have
another life, you know, they can't do these things. Even
I even think in the, in the case of like,
(36:23):
you know, some, some families with the elderly, you know, um,
with their elderly parents that might develop dementia and, and,
you know, these types of other illnesses.
They want, you know, we want to care for our parents,
you know, we're told to, you know, as we said,
we're told to honor them, but not equipped to do
it properly and and and then when you're attempting to
(36:44):
do it, it just you, you, you're serving out of frustration,
you're being there, you're being there for your kids or
for your parents or whomever might have this illness, you're you're,
you're doing these things, you know, from a place of
like frustration.
And and not comfortable. I just want to get in
and out, take care of these things, and no longer
(37:05):
is like, man, I'm gonna, I want to spend some
quality time, you know, and I think that's where like
looking to resources and other outside, you know, medical facilities
or whatnot.
To come alongside to take care of those day to
day things, so it gives you the time and the
freedom to actually meet be mom, you know, to your
(37:26):
son who has this illness. I just want to be
there and to love and to, you know, just to,
you know, be, uh, uh, you know, that way you
can see a familiar face and, and then.
Enjoy some time rather than man, I just got to
go and I got to clean his house and I
got to do all these other things because then it
just develops, you know, kind of frustration. I'm sure there's,
you know, again, just getting some counsel with family and
(37:48):
and looking to some other resources that can help, you know,
that way you can actually do the things that you
feel God is leading you to do.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, and I think as a mom, she'll she might
always have that mom guilt where she she felt like, yeah,
I'm moving to Arkansas, and then 3 days later she's like,
I got to go back. I mean, she's going to
be wondering, has he taken out his trash? Has he
done his laundry and just all this stuff, but like
you say, I mean, there's got to be the
(38:16):
This is like a tough love situation here where she's,
she can come visit, she can call him on the phone,
but it's like, I'm not doing this for you
anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, and I think it's got that's where, you know,
just getting the counsel and and looking to, you know,
just getting the counsel with people that might be familiar,
a little bit more familiar with the severity of everything
can help her make that decision because, you know, Arkansas.
You know that that's, that's far, you know, um, you
want it's far from California, you know, and it's not
just a, a day's drive like, you know, moving to
(38:45):
Nevada or something like that or Arizona, it's, you know,
that's a, it's a lengthy drive and, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
All right. Here's another question that was sent in online.
It's from Frank, who wants to know if the wine
Jesus drank had alcohol, which is a question we sometimes get,
you know, was it wine? Was it grape juice? But
Frank takes it a step further. He says, if it
did have alcohol, how much do you think Jesus drank?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, OK, well, uh, to answer your question, yes, I
do believe that there was alcohol, you know, this, there
was wine in there was alcohol in wine.
And I, you know, as far as how much did
Jesus drink, um, for sure it wasn't, he didn't drink
to the point where he was intoxicated, that's for sure, because,
(39:33):
you know, that drunkenness is a sin and we know
that Jesus didn't sin, you know, and, um, so to
answer your question, I know there are a lot of
people that might even think that, oh no, it was
just grape juice and all this other stuff, but I
don't believe that, you know, wine was, um.
Uh, made or or created during that time without alcohol.
(39:54):
There was alcohol in it, you know, but, um, there
wasn't Jesus didn't consume the wine for drunkenness or to
get drunk at
all.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So, in Matthew 11, I had to look this up
real quick. Um, the son of man came eating and drinking,
and they say, here is a glutton and a drunkard,
a friend of tax collectors and sinners. So,
Uh, they meaning the Pharisees, and they were right. Jesus
was a friend of tax collectors and sinners. Therefore, were
(40:24):
they right when they, when they said he's a glutton
and a drunkard, because maybe, you know, you could look
at this and say, oh, they were just exaggerating, they
were just saying, oh yeah, look at this guy, he
does all these things, but, but some of the things
that they uh accused him of are true, so is
it possible that he was
A glutton and a drunkard based on that verse.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Is it possible? No, again, uh, no, because he is
God and he didn't sin. He was found with no
sin in him, and he was perfect, the only perfect
person to walk the face of the planet, and I think,
you know, when
You know, when we think of these passages and Jesus,
you know, being in these places, you know, uh, with, uh,
(41:07):
you know, drunkards and with sinners, that's exactly who he
came to save. You know, Jesus came to save the lost.
And, um, and, and that's who he connected with. And, um,
you know, he, you know, a lot of times I
hear people say, and I even say this at times,
you know, if Jesus was, you know, walking on the
face of the planet now and in 2025, would, you know,
(41:31):
would he be just, you know, locked up in the,
you know, just in the, in the walls of the
church or would he be, would he be walking, you know,
the streets, you know, the, the, the in the.
Rallies would he be talking and connecting with, you know,
gang members and, you know, on the street corners talking
to prostitutes and and sharing and I believe he would,
I believe he would be doing these things, you know,
(41:52):
and just as he was, you know, when he did
during his ministry here doing miracles and bringing deliverance, you know,
to people who were demon possessed, you know, healing the blind,
he was out in the community, out in these in
the highways and the byways as as the Bible says
and so, um.
So for him to have this, you know, be accused
of the Pharisees, because the Pharisees, they were the ones
(42:13):
that were like they would not associate themselves with anybody,
you know, who would have this kind of lifestyle at all.
They would look down on them and they would point
the finger, you know, and, you know.
Just kind of have this divisiveness, you know, and be
divided from them, but Jesus, he was the one bridging
the gap to all, you know, to those that were
(42:34):
in sin and, you know, drunkards and in the highways
and the byways and and all those things. And so
that was their accusation towards towards Jesus.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
All right, Frank, thank you for sending in your questions
through the pastor's perspective page on Kwave.com, which is how
Brittany sent her question in as well. Brittany asks, does
the Bible mention anything about the wildfires that are going
on right now in our nation?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Uh, no, the Bible doesn't.
Mention anything specifically on the wildfires that we see that
that's happening, you know, um, in our nation or in California.
I know that there's some fires even currently at, at
least last night I saw somewhere in Los Angeles County
I believe up up and um.
(43:21):
You know, LA County, some wildfires, but specifically those things, no. I,
I think if we were to look at what Jesus
does say or what the Bible does say, you know,
in regards to just a lot of the stuff that
we do see in our world.
Um, would be on the, the, during the all of
it discourse when, when, you know, the, the disciples are
asking Jesus the question, when will we know and when
(43:44):
you come back, you know, when we want to know
the timeline kind of a thing, and, and Jesus begins
to say, hey, when you see all these things happening,
you know, the wars, the rumors of wars and famines
and kind of just all the stuff that we might,
I would say that we're getting to see, you know,
and currently in our world, um, more and more.
Jesus said, hey, when you see all these things happen,
look up for your redemption, your redemption draws near. And so,
(44:07):
you know, we live in a fallen world and um
you know, there is sin, there's there's destruction, there's natural
disasters that we see, you know, from volcanoes, earthquakes and
fires and and these types of things, you know, there's
the wars and the rumors of wars and the famines,
you know, all this stuff.
And it's just points to the fact that we live
(44:27):
in a fallen world, we need a savior and um
and Jesus is our savior. And, and so, you know,
when I, when I encourage people like not to focus
so much on all the destructive things and, and all,
you know, the, the evil and, and because that can
bring a sense of fear and fear is crippling for
a lot of people. People, you know, see these things
and they, you know, uh, tsunamis there was like a
(44:49):
tsunami warning like a couple of weeks ago or something
like that, you know, and.
You know, there's people like, man, I'm not gonna go
to the beach, you know, I was like, dude, that was,
that was a week ago, you know, and you're still
worried about a tsunami. It's like, you know, but again,
how fear is so crippling. I think even we can
look at, uh, you know, after COVID, you know, in 2020.
(45:09):
Um, how many people are just from that moment, from
that season or so crippled with fear, you know, with,
with germs and not going out anymore, and doing all
these other things. There's still people that are very, you know, um,
just crippled with this fear. And I say, you know,
when we're focusing on all these things, rather than looking up,
(45:30):
rather than saying, hey, you know what, what is God
wanting me to do? Who is, you know, what what's
he doing in my life? Um.
That it can be very crippling. And so I would
encourage people like don't get so caught up in in
all of the the fearful things that we see in
our world because we do live in a fallen world,
but let's get, you know, just stay focused on Jesus,
(45:51):
on his purposes, on his plans that he has for
us that we would continue to move forward.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, I saw something in the news recently that in
China there's a new mosquito-borne virus. It's called the
Chikungunya, I don't even know how to say it, but again,
they're just starting to tell us about what's going on.
7000 people have gotten sick and all this other stuff, and,
and now they're wondering, is it going to come to
America and, and just all this stuff that's going on.
(46:17):
And there was a lady I saw her on social
media recently and uh every post, like 90% of her
posts are
Just about how bad this current administration is and everything
else and it's like, OK, fine, whatever you want to think, right?
And then there was this uh other post, hey, if
everybody could please pray for me, I'm, I'm having
(46:40):
Uh, I have high blood pressure and, and everything else,
and my doctor says, and I felt like replying, you
know what, stop watching the news, and I bet you
that would help you because you're so focused on everything
that's going on everywhere and, um, yeah, just people are
are so afraid of either politics or viruses or
whatever,
Speaker 2 (46:59):
something, you know, there's there's there's always going to be
something and and you know, just looking at this here
with the mosquitoes, it's like, oh man.
I hate mosquitoes, you know, they they seem to be everywhere,
but again, it's like just for anybody like seeing these things,
it can be so crippling, you know, especially now like a,
a season of mosquitoes, probably people listening right now, they're,
(47:19):
they're like, yeah, we've got a lot of bunch of
mosquitoes in my backyard or something like that, you know,
and now it's like, oh, I'm not gonna go in
my backyard. What if it's one of those mosquitoes? And
it's just like this, this fear, so let's just keep
on trusting Jesus, look up, you know, and.
Um, just live for Jesus. Let's go make much for Jesus.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Amen. Brittany, thank you for sending in your question online. Uh,
here's Anthony's question. He's in San Fernando and he wrote
in on Facebook. What are the factors that it's the
right time from God that I should start to pursue
a woman or start dating in order to get married?
Or is there a book in the Bible that can
help me know when it's the right time to date
(48:00):
or look for a spouse?
Speaker 2 (48:03):
There's nothing that I can think of specifically in the
Bible that says, OK, this is the time now for
you to go and, and find your spouse, your, your, uh,
you know, the person that you're gonna live the rest
of your life with. I, I think, you know, when
we are
You know, when the Lord brings that person and that's
kind of how I always communicate, you know, it's like, hey,
(48:24):
when you're just don't focus so much on I have
to have, you know, my soul mate and get married
because you know you can be, you can deceive yourself
into a relationship that the Lord isn't doesn't have for you,
but once the Lord.
brings that relationship into your life. It is going to
be so obvious, not just to you and to the
other person, but I think a lot of times it's
(48:46):
going to be obvious uh with the people that are
closest to you, like, hey, you know, there's something going
on here in this relationship, you know, and you're going
to be supported in all of those things, you know,
and so
And there's no specific Bible verse or or place in
the Bible that I can think of that says, OK,
now is the time for you to go and find
(49:07):
your spouse and and to get married or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, there's such a pressure it seems on singles to
find someone and, and I think even
You know, churches that have singles ministries, a lot of
times people will, I think their goal maybe is to
go on to find that special someone and but that's
not really the, that shouldn't be the goal of a
singles ministry, would you say?
Speaker 2 (49:30):
No, not, not at all. I think the goal of
any ministry within the church is really to, you know,
to highlight Jesus and and to bring glory to the Lord,
you know, and whatever those relationships might be, but you know,
you bring something up.
Bro, that that I've actually been thinking of um a lot,
you know, um, here recently because I know that like
uh most churches and including ours at Hope of Life Church,
(49:52):
you know, when, when we're giving a sermon or something
like that, you know, when I'm doing a sermon, a
lot of times I, I, I may or one of
the other pastors may, you know, make a an illustration
um about our Christian life in regards to our marriage
or in the home with, you know, husbands and wives,
you know, this is what it's like.
And, and I, what I've been, this is what I've
(50:13):
been thinking of is like, man, we say that often
and I get, I think everybody gets it. No one
is being offended. I don't believe anybody's being offended or anything,
but I begin to think like, you know,
Speaker 1 (50:24):
people get offended over everything
Speaker 2 (50:25):
nowadays.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, you know
Speaker 1 (50:27):
that one guy that stopped going to church? It's probably
because I'm joking I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
But you know, it's like, uh, but I, I, I've
been thinking about like, you know, what about, you know,
finding illustrations not only like a marriage illustration, you know, to,
you know, or use marriage as an illustration, you know,
or to talk about, you know, when we're at the pulpit,
but what about the single person?
You know, talking about, you know, their life and, and
(50:53):
not excluding but just hey they're being thought of and
this is again this is something I've just been thinking of,
you know, thinking about like, hey, what if I was
single and I always hear like the pastors just talk
about marriages and all this and other that, you know,
what about me? you know, I'm not married I am single,
you know, is there is there.
Ever going to be an illustration or is there going
to be something that's going to be I can really
(51:14):
relate to, you know, because sometimes, you know, you're talking
these illustrations and and marriage and all that some people
can just like, well, that doesn't apply to me because
I'm not married, you know, um, so I don't know,
it's just something I've been thinking about.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
You know what's funny is, is life, even though you
could say that the world is very anti-marriage, it seems.
It's just about the hookup culture and all that other stuff, right?
But
But you brought up a good point that churches, pastors
will often use illustrations regarding family life and everything, but,
but even like you go to a place like Costco,
(51:49):
like do single people shop at Costco and buy like
tons and tons of SpaghettiO's and because it's bulk, it's
mostly families that go there. So again, it's set up, you,
you buy in bulk, you get the discount, and so, yeah, just.
A random thought.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just a random thought, you know,
it's something that, uh, I, I think of as a
pastor is like, OK, you know, because there's, there's uh
it's not everybody who comes to Hope of Life Church
is married. We have a, we have plenty of men
and women that are single and I know that in
these men and women that are single, they're, they're finding,
you know, their hope and trust and and their strength
(52:24):
and Jesus and and the Lord and, and, um, you know, so.
Yeah, anyways, something I think about.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yes, all right, here's uh one more question that I
think we'll have time for. It was sent in online anonymously,
which you can send in your questions. We don't have
to say your name or you can change your name
when you call us, um, but, uh, this question here,
why is it that God is not allowing my husband
to work while he is
Still capable. He is on his way to becoming legally blind.
(52:52):
Every day passes, he loses more of his eyesight. It'll
be a matter of a couple of years before darkness
kicks in. But right now, he's unable to find work, and, uh,
we're in a phase of losing hope. We're not capable
now to believe that there is a reason for this.
What kind of hope do you offer to? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
You know, that is a a very challenging one and, and, uh,
so sorry for whoever's writing this and I'm sure there's
probably other people that are might find themselves in the
same kind of a, a place right now where just the,
you know, the place just to find a job is
can be challenging right now and it's for a lot
of people, you know, whether they, they have an illness or, or,
(53:31):
you know, some kind of a handicap or not, you know, um,
it is challenging and
I would encourage them, you know, just keep doing what
you can, keep pressing in, um, and doing what it
is that you can to provide for yourself and, and
finding that right job. Keep don't, don't ever give up,
you know, God knows the situation, God, and that's where
(53:53):
our trust comes in the Lord, you know, in all
of these things, we just, OK, Lord, I just want
to trust in you and all of this and keep
doing the best that you can. Don't, don't give up.
And I think that's the easy part, right? I sometimes
we can
You know, we want to do our very best. We're
we're searching, we're, you know, looking for a job or
something like that, but then the frustration can kick in
(54:14):
and everything else and we just easily give up. And
I think that's, that's where the enemy would want us
to be is to give up because it's not just
giving up you know on looking for a job, but
giving up on hope, giving up on.
Jesus giving up on, you know, the leading of the
Lord and just like just doing the best you can
to be as diligent as you possibly can without stopping.
(54:36):
And God in his favor and his grace, you know,
he will, he will see us through. He will provide
and you know that's the encouragement that I would give
is don't give up, you know, and you know, again,
my heart breaks and it's just like those are sad situations.
Um, but don't ever
Speaker 1 (54:52):
give up. I think the frustration too, and we don't
know the whole backstory here in this situation, but if
it's a couple that has served the Lord all their lives,
and they've always had that hope that he's gonna see
them through and now he's not seeing them through. So
there's that.
Temptation, you could say to just walk away and, and
not hang in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2 (55:12):
you know, there was that temptation, but then, yeah, I'm
reminded of Abraham and Sarah in the Bible, you know,
and God gave them a promise and it didn't happen overnight,
you know, and they attempted in their own flesh and
God said, hey, that's the work of the flesh, that's
not the promise, and they continued to wait.
And God gave them a son of promise. Eventually God's
word and promises came
Speaker 1 (55:32):
forth. Yes, they did. Tommy Coda, thank you for joining
me today on Pastor's Perspective.
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (55:38):
I'll
Speaker 2 (55:38):
do it again.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
What time are
your services
on
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Sunday every Sunday 9 a.m. in Spanish and 11 a.m.
in English,
Speaker 1 (55:44):
28. I thought you didn't speak Spanish,
Speaker 2 (55:46):
and that's not me, bro.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
We gotta have him come in next time and then, uh, yeah,
we'll take some questions. All right guys, God bless you.
We'll see you at church on Sunday and then we'll
take your calls again on Monday here on Pastor's Perspective.
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