Pastors' Perspective-09/23/25

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello and welcome to Pastor's Perspective. I'm your host, Brian Perez,
and we are here live in the studio until 4
o'clock on this Tuesday afternoon. Give us a call. What
do you want to ask the pastors? Did you read
something in your Bible this morning that got you thinking?
Did you hear something at church this past Sunday and
you weren't able to call us yesterday, Monday? We're here today.

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888-564-6173 is our number. And
Answering your questions today, we've got Brian Broderson from Echoes
of Mercy.com. He also teaches at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa
on Sunday nights, and you hear him here on the radio,
3 times a day on the Back to Basics radio program.
How are you doing, Brian?
I'm doing good, Brian. Thank you. Yay, and we have

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a guest. We do have a guest. Sheridan McDaniel joins
us once again. He's the pastor of two churches. If
you thought my intro for Pastor Brian was long, wait
till you hear my intro for Pastor Sheridan, because he
does so much. He's the pastor of two churches.
Place for worship in Anaheim and Saint Mark's Baptist Church

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in Long Beach. I still don't know how you do
that because you teach there on Sunday mornings at both,
and it's not like a satellite thing. You don't send
them a video or anything. You, you're there. I'm there.
it's the carpool lane all the way. That's it. We
finish one and head to the other.
Now, this Sunday, Kwave, uh, part of the crew is
gonna be going to a place for worship in Anaheim,

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so come on out. We're gonna be supporting Pastor Sheridan
and his radio program here on Kwave called Worship That Walks,
which you can hear on Saturdays at 100 a.m. Yes,
we're ready for you. Yeah, so come on out.
So how's it going to like doing the two churches?
I mean, you know, because Brian wants to do that

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and he's just, I'm looking for something new to do
on Sunday, um, I mean, I know, I know people
who have done it over the years and, uh.
And you know, the drive and all of that, I mean, that's,
I would imagine it's a bit of a challenge every
Sunday morning. Yes, it, it, it, it definitely is and

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Only I know we say it all the time, but
only by the grace of God are we able to
do it, you know, going through one worship service, hit
that 91 freeway 17 and over to Long Beach and,
and to do another full service, so definitely it has
its challenges. Yeah, it's a big day, yeah it's a.

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Sunday's a big day for us pastor guys, yeah, church, church,
and then football. It's a challenge and forget football.
All right gang, give us a call at 888-564-6173. And
of course, you can also send us your questions online,
but we prefer to talk to you, so call in
if you can at 888-564-6173. So speaking of football, um,

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have you taken in a game at the, um,
What, what's it called? So, yeah, I'm, I'm waiting. I
wanna get in there here it's pretty incredible. Yeah, I,
I haven't been either. I, I mean, the last time
I was at an NFL game.
The Los Angeles Rams were playing the New York Jets,

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and Joe Namath was the quarterback for the Jets. So
that's how long ago it was. I know, man, man, no,
my last was the Chargers. I wanna say they were
playing the Bengals drove down to San Diego. OK, that
was OK. Well, down to San Diego. That was a

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while ago. That speaks a while, yeah, right.
All right, so, uh, let's answer some questions that you
guys have. 888-564-6173 is our number. You can also send
in your questions online. That's what a couple of people
here did, and, uh, they're both basically the same kind
of question. In fact, they might have been written by

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the same person. No, I don't think they were, but, uh,
and they're both directed at you, Pastor Brian. Uh, this
one is from David in Gardena, who listens on Kwave.com.
And he says, I heard Pastor's perspective just after the
killing of Charlie Kirk. Pastor Brian Broderson stated he didn't
agree with some things that Charlie believed. My question is,

(04:36):
what are those things that he disagrees with? Granted, no,
nothing is wrong with agreeing or disagreeing with someone. In fact,
that's the blessing of Charlie's message. And then Nick.
On Instagram says, uh, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination,
I've heard Pastor Bryan say that Charlie was controversial and
that he had a lot of beliefs I didn't agree with.

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I've watched hundreds of hours of his videos, and it's
hard for me to understand which beliefs Pastor Bryan might
disagree with. Can he provide some examples? I feel it's
important to be clear about these things and not just
voice a vague objection to some of his beliefs.
What would you say? Oh, well, first of all, I,
I think I will set the record straight. I never
said anything about his beliefs. Um, it wasn't his beliefs

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that I was addressing, it was his, um, methods, and
that is, and I mentioned the fact that he was
uh controversial and polarizing in the culture, and I think
that that.
Um, is just a, a reality, I think, as far
as his beliefs, his beliefs as a Christian, I, I

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think that they were orthodox. I wasn't a, a follower
of Charlie.
And, uh, yet I knew of him and I of
course have seen so much uh since his death, um,
regarding him, and I've seen him in many different contexts,
you know, on college campuses and and things of that nature. He, um, I,

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I think he would say things at times that were
um quite offensive and not really.
Uh, representative of, of, of a person who's representing Jesus. Uh,
and I think some of that had to do with race, and, um,
I don't know, uh, Sheridan happens to be in the
studio with me today, so I don't know if what

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he even thinks about this, but, um, you know, there
were times that he would say things and I would
just think, well, you know, you shouldn't say that. I mean,
and people say, oh no, you have to understand the
bigger context and all of that. Uh, maybe sometimes, yes,
but on other occasions, no.
And so, um, so anyway, those were, it was more

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uh his methods and it was more the things that
he said in a in more of a a cultural
context and then I do think there's also, um, in
his mind somewhat, at least this this came across to me,
somewhat of a conflating between.
Christianity, biblical Christianity, and conservativism, and I think these are

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really different things even though there are some overlap, but
I think if you, if you blend them together to
the point that you don't see their different things, I
think you're gonna make assumptions about what Christians should uh
say and not say and do and not do, and
then you're gonna judge Christians who don't do uh the
things that you think they should do because you're interpreting

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your Christianity through.
Uh, a lens of in, in, in one sense, sort
of nationalism. So those are the things that I felt
about Charlie. And of course, I'm
Uh, like, you know, like everybody else, you know, was horrific, his,
his murder. I saw the, um, you know, I saw
the video and it was just unbelievably horrible and, um,

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I think on the campuses, I think in some areas
he did a really good job pushing back on some
of the craziness and the culture, and I think in
some cases he did a good job in presenting uh
the gospel too, but again, I, I do think
That most people who want to look at it objectively

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would have to say that he was a bit of
a polarizing figure. Sheridan.
And I, I would totally, uh, agree with Brian and every,
everything you just shared. Uh, I would be in the
minority probably on this, um, the call it the late bus.

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I had never heard of Charlie Kirk until, yeah, exactly, way, way,
way more people heard of him.
As a result of his death and had heard of
him before, yes, absolutely, no question. Yeah, so I'm, I'm
definitely late to the party, as they say, um, and

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I really have not dived into hearing, you know, all
the speech and talk.
Pretty much what I know of him now it's just
what I've heard and, and, but some of the clips
that you know I, I've heard or watched, um, would say,
you know, polarizing and, and offensive, you know, uh, but

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other than that my approach to it as I try
to approach everything is just from the word, you know, um,
to pray for his family, you know, followers, um, praying.
And do my part of showing peace and unity, you know,
in our nation, in our communities and our, you know,

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because that's where it's gonna come down to, yeah, yeah,
I think, you know, there are many accusations, uh, you know,
that he was uh homophobic or he was transphobic or
he was racist and all of that.
And he did say things at times that that made
you think like he could be, but I think when you,
you know, got a little deeper, um, that's where I

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think his rhetoric sometimes got ahead of what he actually
did believe because many people from the, the gay community
have come forward and said, uh, Charlie was a friend
of mine and you know, he came to my house
and had dinner with my husband and I. This is a,
you know, a man.
Uh, talking about that and then other people from the
trans community said no, you know, he was actually gracious

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to us, and then, you know, I've seen several, um,
people of color come out and say, and no he
wasn't a racist, you know, he was so, so, but
you know, there's a that's where you find the polarization,
that's where you find the controversy and I do think
too that Charlie was a work in progress, you know,
I think that, you know what he was saying.
Uh, maybe 5 years ago, and the way he was

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saying it is not what he would have said, um,
2 weeks ago. And so I think he, he was
growing along the way, so.
I think a lot of those clips too, we've seen
this where they're taken out of context where you only
see the little 12th thing where he says whatever, but
if you watch the before and after or you read
the whole statement, it's like, OK, so maybe that's not

(11:08):
what he meant, but yeah, yeah, sometimes that's I, I
remember the first time that I saw him that I
was really troubled was when, um, it was back in
the Olympics and it was back when Simone Biles was, uh,
competing and she dropped out because of, you know, she.
Had some physical thing that that caused her to drop
out and he was ruthless in regard to her and really,

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you know, criticized her very publicly and I think unfairly
and I just thought, you know what, you just don't
do that, you know, that's not a Christians, that's not
what Christians do, you know, so that's where I would see, but,
you know, again, how many years ago was that? That
was quite a few years ago, you know, he was
in his mid-twenties, maybe, maybe.

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You know, back then he was still kind of figuring
out that
You know, maybe I need to hold and you know,
interesting like his wife, uh, Erica, um, she recently was
saying that she um, she felt like God put her
in his life to temper him and to kind of
challenge him on some of his views. I guess he

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had a really strong view about, um, like men who
didn't work but but stayed home with the family and
you know, he was hypercritical of that and you know,
that was absolutely wrong.
And Eric was like, well, that was my dad, and
you know, so it's like, oh, maybe I better rethink this. So,
but you know, I mean, it's, it's horrible that he was,

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he was murdered, um, and that's the way he was
murdered and
And you know, I, like I said, I think he, he,
I think he was a work in progress, like all
of us are, and um I would imagine in another
10 years he probably would have been even more um
seasoned and wise and so forth, so.

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All right, hope that answers your questions, Nick and David.
Now we're gonna go to the phones at 888-564-6173, beginning
with Ernest in Covina. Thank you for calling in. Ernest,
what's your question for us?
OK, my question is for um.
Uh, Mr. Sheridan McD Daniel. All right, let me see

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if I can find him. Oh, look, he's right here.
Oh great. First, let me, first let me say this.
I remember Sheridan used to come down and pick me
up at the Salvation Army downtown LA and he used
to have church in his garage and Bible

Speaker 2 (13:34):
study and he used to come pick me up and
bring me to the Bible study, and I was really encouraged.
My aunt Juanita Strong introduced me to Sheridan McDaniel, but anyway,
this is my question for you.
In Hebrews chapter 6.
Verse 4 through 6.

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It, it, um.
It says,

Speaker 1 (13:58):
for it is impossible for those who were once enlightened
and tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers
of the Holy Ghost and have tasted the good word
of God and the powers of the world to come
if they shall fall away to renew them again and
to repent and sin that they crucify themselves to the

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Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame.
So my question is,
That specifically the 6th verse, if they shall fall away
to renew them again and to repentance, who is it,
is it talking to believers here? Is it talking to
people that have heard the word but have not yet

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accepted Christ? Who, who, who is this speaking to?
Hey, Ernest, good to hear from you and definitely remember you. Um,
good to hear your voice, man. Um, so the, the
question from Hebrews as I've read and, and studied it,
and you just mentioned, is it talking about people who, um,

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have heard the word and not accepted or not received
or not followed. That would be my, um, belief in
on that particular scripture.
Uh, once I, you know, hear the word, you know, I,
I am enlightened. Uh, I have tasted it, uh, when
I hear it, but then it's up to me to

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receive or reject. And if, you know, I receive that
word and I follow through and, um, then I will
experience everything that comes with being, you know, a believer
and a follower of Jesus. And, and if I do
reject that, I'll, you know, I will be absent from
what God has from me.
Absent from, you know, the community of believers. And so,

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you know, as you stated, that has been, you know, uh,
what I believe also. Brian, what do you say? OK.
Is that good, Ernest, that I help you?
That, yeah, that is, that, that's awesome. uh, so, so
because they reject, then it's impossible to renew them again

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unto repentance, right?
If they, if they continue to reject.
OK. Yeah. If they continue to reject you. You answered
my question, yeah. I, I think that's Ernest's way of
saying no, we don't need to hear what Brian said.
But if you want to add something, I wouldn't mind. No, I,

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you know, um, of course, like you, Sheridan, you know,
taught Hebrews over the years, you know, a few times, and,
and that's always a tricky passage, you know, you come
to it and you're like, OK, what is this saying?
And, um, you know, I came to a point where
I thought, you know, the description there, they've tasted, um,

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the heavenly gift, the powers of the age to come, uh,
you know, I mean, it really sounds like it's describing
somebody who's really, you know, in had a real experience
with God, but then
And, and you know, as I, as I thought about it,
I thought, you know, this could be said of Judas Iscariot.
This is Judas had all of these things, but in
the end, he wasn't actually saved. And so it, it's

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kind of just a a reminder to us that you can.
You know, you can get really close and you can
even almost look like you're in the kingdom, but maybe
you're not because it's, it's really comes down to where's
your heart, you know, so, so anyway, that's my little, uh,
two cents. Is this the passage that also they say
that um

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People who were obeying the the Jewish customs and then
now they want to go back to the Jewish customs
because it's not exactly that passage, but it is in
the same letter. It's in the 10th chapter. That's it. Yeah,
10th chapter. You know, the Hebrews is a series of
warnings about one thing. Don't really, don't, don't turn away

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from Jesus, Messiahship and go back to Judaism. That was
the big temptation that they were having, yeah.
All right, Ernest, thank you for your phone call today
on Pastor's Perspective at 888-564-6173. And now here is Sid
in San Bernardino. Hi, Sid, how can we help you today?
What's your question?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Hey, what's going on, brothers? um.
I was just chiming in. I've, uh, I've been in
a dark place for the last couple of months. My
mom just got called home, uh.
And uh
You know, I've been dealing with
Alcoholism just, it just, just the weight of it. I,

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people may tell me sorry for your loss, sorry for
your loss. I know my mom is not lost to
be asking from the bodies to be present with the Lord,
but it's just.
You know, the weight is, you know, many of my
family members getting called home, just been weighing down on
me and, uh, I just wanted to tap in and, and,

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and just see if I can get a, you know,
a prayer and, and just to hear the brother talking
earlier about scripture.
While I was waiting.
Reminding me that we all go through seasons, you know
what I mean? Like we don't, what I'm going through
right now, you may not be going through, but I'm
going through it right now, but

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For you guys to remind me of what scripture and
what the, what the Mossad tells us what to do
in these situations is, is a, is a blessing within itself.
And it took a lot of courage for me to
call in right now to even express what I'm going
through right now, but uh.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
How long has it been since your mom went to heaven?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
She was called home uh in August.
And I'm, and I'm, I'm the oldest right now, uh.
And I'm, I'm still planning her funeral right now as
we speak, so.
It's, it's still fresh, you know what I'm saying, but.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
And the problems that you've been having with alcohol, is
that since your mom's passing or has that been going
on for a while?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It was, it was going on for a minute, but
it just, it doubled the dose, you know what I mean,
so I, and I know this.
Uh
Yeah, I, I know this is, this is, I'm not
gonna say it's a struggle. I know this is my
fight this is my.
This is my my

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My faith and my faith and what I know what
God has done for me already. Mhm.
I just need I just need uh.
I need prayers from my brothers in Christ, you feel me?
Like I, I.
I just need that cause I, I've been isolating myself
from anybody, not even letting nobody know how I feel. Only,

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only God knows how my heart is, but I know
express one to another how you are that are in Christ.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's not always easy to do that. What kind of
encouragement and prayer can you give to Sid.
Well, Sid, I, you know, I think like you've expressed, um,
You, you mentioned with your mom, absent, absent from the body,
present with the Lord, and that is, that is a reality.

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And I think that it's that truth that you need
to latch on to as your hope and as your peace,
and as your joy in the midst of this, rather than,
you know, reaching for the bottle.

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Because that's not gonna, in the end, you know, that
that's not helping you at all. That's actually, um, you know,
it's affecting you, you negatively.
And so lay hold of that truth, and of course
you have sorrow, and you are hurting because of your
love for your mom, but if you can try to

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just rise above it and think, man,
Mom is with Jesus, you know, she is, she is
where it's happening. She is at the place that it's,
she's in ultimate reality and there's um pleasure forevermore and
there's joy at the right hand of God, and that's
where she is and find your find your peace in

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that reality for your mom and um rather than, you know,
being depressed and then adding that to that, you know,
the alcohol.
Uh, just, you know, just take a step above it,
and then like you said too, you've kind of cut
yourself off from people. So, man, you know, God bless
you for calling today, cause I think that's a step
in the right direction. You're not isolating. You're now saying,

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I need to get some prayer, I need to get
some encouragement. And of course, we're we're here and we're
happy to do that, but, but we're in a radio
station somewhere and you're off in your home somewhere.
And there are actual human beings that you need to
connect with too because it's the mutual encouragement of the
brothers and sisters that's gonna also help you through this season.

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So Sheridan, you got any thoughts? Yeah, just to, to
continue with what, uh, Brian was saying, of course, we're
hurting with you said, um.
I, I too want to encourage you.
To live out her legacy, to live out.
Every lesson that you, she taught you to, uh, go

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ahead and, and we have to grieve, um, but in
that grieving, you come through that process by focusing on
what mom taught and all the great characteristics that she
left and built in your life and you celebrate her and, uh,
and realize, you know, the Bible talks about in 2

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Samuel chapter 12 when David lost his son.
Um, he did grieve, but then he, he said this,
he said, my son's not coming back to me, but
I can't go to where he is. And, and focus
on that said, and I'm, I'm gonna go to heaven
and I'm a, uh, see mom, I'm a
You know, we will, will, will exist in the presence

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of the Lord. And so, you know, um, turn away
from that bottle and just, you know, turn to every
great thing that, that she taught you and, and build
that into your life.
Would you pray for her, said Sherly. Uh, Sid, can
I ask what, what your, what was your mom's name?
Just her first name, Sid.

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Uh, Roxanne, Roxanne, OK. Father, we honor you, bless you,
and thank you that you have directed Sid to call
us just by him calling God. That's a step into
the direction of strength and peace, a step into the
direction of victory. Thank you for Roxanne and
Got the gift that she was, uh, to say and

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those who knew her and praying Lord, that, uh, the
great gifts that she left in his life will continue
to be lived and celebrated and talked about and seen
through Sid's life and in his life. We pray for peace, God,
that you will overwhelm him with your peace, uh, with joy, with.

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Strength, that God, you will live, see at this very
moment and help him to realize that he is not alone,
that you are with him, that you are his strength.
As he leans on your presence, I pray that that alcoholism,
God will just be distanced from his life as you
will become more and more stronger in his life. I

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pray that you will touch, see it with your spirit.
But your power and your grace and that from this
day forward, he will walk in victory knowing that his
mom is in your presence and, and that Lord, we
will all be there who believe in you, in your name, Jesus. Amen. Amen.
Amen. Sid, thanks for calling us today here on Pastor's Perspective.

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Everybody listening and watching right now is praying for you too.
Anybody listening at 3 in the morning on Wednesday to
our rebroadcast will be praying as well. Podcast listeners who
will be listening days and weeks from now will be
keeping you in prayer, Sid, thank you so much for
calling in today. 888-564-6173 is the number to call, and, uh,

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now we're gonna go to Fullerton. Here is Alina. Thank you, Alina,
for calling Pastor's Perspective.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
You're welcome. I appreciate you taking my calls or taking
my call. Hello, pastors. Hi Elena. Um.
Um, my question is really straightforward and perhaps when you've
heard before. I'm wondering why God allows multiple crises to
build up simultaneously, including health crises. Like one or even
two is almost, it can be almost too much to bear.

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But then when there's multiple crises building up at the
same time,
Several of which are health crises. Why does God allow
such a thing to happen to somebody?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
So Alina, is this something you're going through right now?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Um, it's happened to family, beloved family members, but me
specifically right now, yes.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
OK.
Do you wanna share a little bit more, or no,
you don't have
to.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Uh, um, uh.
No, it's just, but the issues cause pain and one
is semi- life threatening and I'm not, my mental health is,
is really deteriorated from, from dealing with this since, uh, March.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Brian.
Yeah, Alina, we, of course, you know, the question like
why does God allow these things in, in this type
of a way at this time, we don't know exactly why,
but we do have promises in, in God's word that

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we can that we can lean on through these seasons,
you know, um, I went through years and years of
a chronic illness and
A big question, of course, was always like, why? Oh Lord, why,
why am I like this and why don't I get
any better and so forth. I mean, this is like
two decades' worth of chronic illness and um yeah, so

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I
Uh, but you know, there would be these little moments
where the Lord would just kind of come to me
with a word, and, and I remember one time it was, um,
there's no trial that's overtaking you, that's not common to
all people and with the trial, um, God will bring, um, uh,
he'll bring a way out ultimately and, and I thought, um, OK,

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you know, there's, there's nothing that's overtaken me that God
um doesn't promise to give me the grace to endure.
So I had to just stand on that. That that's
what that's what faith is. I had to take that
word of God and say, OK, God, you said this,
I don't see it, I don't feel it. It doesn't
seem like it to me, but you said it, so
I'm gonna stand on it and I'm gonna believe it.

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And that that would be a passage that would get
me through um a lot of, a lot of difficulty,
you know, and I think that there is a point
where you
Uh, all of us when we go through these types
of mysterious perplexing things, this is where we fall back
into the arms of Jesus and say, Lord, I don't
get any of this, but you do, and I know

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you love me and I know you're in control, so
I'm gonna just wait and see what what you will
do and um.
We're gonna pray, Alina, that that the Lord will give
you that peace to know that even though you don't
feel it right now, he's with you, he's got you,
and he's gonna carry you through. Yeah, stay through the break, Alina.

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Hopefully your, uh, phone will hold out. It says here
you've got low battery, but, uh, if your phone does
cut out, just keep listening to the radio, we'll pray
for you there here on Kwave. Stand by for more
of your questions.

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Hey, we're back on Pastor's Perspective. Thanks so much for
listening and for watching as well. My name is Brian Perez.
I'm here in the studio with Pastors Brian Broderson and
Sheridan McDaniel. Sheridan's our guest. He's been here a few
times before and it's always great to have him on.
Welcome back, sir. He'll be here Thursday too, so, uh.
You know, always good to have you here. And right

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before I second that. I know you do. I was
speaking the second time, I think it says sorry, 2nd time, yeah,
I love it and Sheridan and I, we met a
few years ago, you know, um, before there was even
any talk about radio or any of that, we were
hanging out one table. We were, yeah, it was great.
Did you say waiting tables? Hanging out at one table, 10,

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I thought I was like I didn't know Brian had a, oh, OK.
We're waiting on tables you like this guy's in Act 6,
Sheridan and I, you know, waiting on the tables. Yes, yes, perfect.
All right, so, uh, we were speaking to Alina and, uh,
who called in talking about all these different crises that
are going on in her life, and Sheridan, do you
have any encouragement for her?

(31:22):
Yeah, uh, I would just, you know, a total agreement
with Brian, Alina, and that.
You know, when these trials and and challenges do come, um,
just know that God is with you. He's with your family, um,
and he's there to build character and develop, um, you know,

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his character and his likeness in us, and he's never
leaving you alone and, um, he's
There to help you and I to look like, to
respond like and to walk like him through these challenges.
And so please know that no matter how difficult, um,

(32:05):
his grace and his presence is with you. Brian, would
you pray for Alina? Yeah, happily. Lord, we do pray
uh for Alina, and Lord, we thank you that you
hear our prayer and you hear her prayer, and Lord,
we know that there
There are times we see it in people in the Bible,
from Job to the psalmist to Jesus himself, where, um,

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and Paul even where, you know, sometimes it just seems
like we're all alone and we're kind of out in
the dark, but Lord, you promised to be with us.
You said that you would never leave us or forsake us,
and you also promised that your strength would be made
perfect in in our weakness.

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And so Lord, we pray for um comfort for Alina first,
that she would know that you do care and that
you're with her despite the situation.
Um, we pray, Lord, for, um.
Peace as well, um, that you would just free her
from anything that's agitating her or continuing to to to

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sort of unsettle her. We pray that you would give
her your peace.
Uh, Lord, we pray also and ask that you would
touch her. We pray that you would touch her physical
body and for those that she's also concerned about who
need a touch from you, we, we pray that you
would do that. We know that you, you can do that,

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and we know that sometimes you do do that, you
choose to do it. So, Lord, you said to ask
and so that's what we're doing. We're asking for your touch.
And most of all, Lord, we're praying that um just
your presence would engulf her.
And Lord, that she would know that she knows that
she knows that that you are with her and that

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you will guide and direct her every step of the
way in Jesus name, amen.
Amen. Alina, thanks for calling in today and everybody listening
and watching, keep her in your prayers as well. 888-564-6173
is our number and now here is Chantelle in Ontario
listening on FM 107.9. Hi Chantelle, what's your question for

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us today?
Hi, gentlemen, how's everybody doing? So far so good.
I'm glad, I'm glad. So I have two questions. One's
a little bit more lighthearted and kind of surface, and
the other one's a little bit, um, I guess I
would say deeper. I don't know. But my first one was, um,
with obviously the growing public interest and my own interest

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as well sometimes and like even official quote unquote reports
about extra extraterrestrial life. I was just wondering from like
a biblical and theological perspective, how should Christians understand.
The possibility of alien life, like with such beings if
they do exist, be considered part of God's creation, or

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is there like a possibility that they could be a
form of deception, perhaps demonic? How does our faith like
help us like process and understand this.
Category or subject matter. Right.
Well, yeah, the Bible, the Bible teaches that there are
um

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Other beings that exist in our world and in our
universe that are spiritual beings who are invisible to us
and yet they're very real and they're very active and
so um that you know that that biblical worldview I
was listening to uh an interesting theologian from uh Africa, uh,

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from Kenya.
And she, she was talking about sort of the difference
between like an African understanding of of the Christian faith
and and a Western understanding. And one of the things
she said was that, um, you know, we in Africa,
we have a more of a holistic
Understanding which she meant includes the spiritual realm. So for them,

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the idea that there are spiritual beings, that there are
demonic forces and so forth, that is just a a
daily reality. It's not even anything they they question like,
oh my goodness, the Bible talks about evil spirits, that
that can't be true.
Uh, many in the Western world have sort of, uh,
sometimes even believers sort of scoffed at the idea that,

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you know, they're actually demons and things like that, but a,
a real biblical worldview tells us that there are. So
when you go to extraterrestrials and things like that, uh, we,
we don't know, um, but I would guess that they are.
Uh, however, uh, I mean, who knows if, you know,

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they'll ever show up on our doorstep with any kind
of a greeting or anything, uh, but if they do,
I would imagine that they are going to be forces
that are hostile to God and to the gospel of
the Lord Jesus, and, um, they're, you know, from the
dark side. So I think that that would.

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I, I think that that would be like.
They would be demonic, yeah, mhm.
OK, OK, awesome. And then my other question, if I,
that was a light-hearted one deeper one.
I mean it's about Italy so I mean I'm guessing
that's why I categorize it as lighthearted. OK, good.

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Um, my daughter, I love her so much. She loves
her soul. She's 25 years old.
Um, where I think their generation is struggling with a
lot of this, especially though I think she just feels
very deeply, right, where I'm definitely more of the logical
analytical thinker, not that I don't feel, but she's also

(37:58):
been a little bit sheltered when it comes to my
mothering and how I raised her as opposed to what
I thought, right, because that's the whole job as a
parent to give them more to give them what you
didn't get so.
But she's a sweetheart and she has a huge heart
and what's been going on ever since like the Charlie
Kirk assassination but even before that like the school shootings

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like everything is happening on a consistent basis like she
brought this up to me the other day and I
was just like, oh my God, like I don't even
know how to answer this, and I, I tried, but
at the same time I felt like.
Wow, like she was just venting, not even so much
a question, but I just wanna get some maybe some

(38:38):
verses for her or just your own perspective, something she
could do. I'm gonna play this for her later, so
that she can maybe hear you all kind of chime
in and give her some comfort if that's OK, but
She was like, Mom, like, who are we? She goes,
I sit and I think of myself and I'm, I'm
going to call Polly and I'm finishing my degree in
English education and my life is pretty blessed. Like I

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go to church, we go to Bible study, we have
a great family, not that we don't have our struggles
and issues like I'm a single mom grinding it out,
so it's not picture perfect, but it is what it is.
She's like, why?
How come? And then she goes and there's like what's
going on in Gaza and these children like being killed
daily like why do I get this existence? Why do,

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why does God make me deserving to have this life
and yet somewhere else they're not given that same life
that same opportunity, same, you know what I mean, freedom
to kind of just.
Do what they wanna do and kind of explore and
and and you know yeah we have our struggles here
she goes but mom it's it's not nowhere near as

(39:41):
hard for some people as opposed to others right in
other countries and I said no I totally get that
like I'm totally acknowledging that and what you're feeling right now.
I go, but at the same time what I told
her is, you know, I don't remember what our pastor
like preached on last Sunday, for example, like other countries
like totally shutting down.
And not allowing for any more of this mutilation of

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teens that are questioning their gender and you know, France,
New Zealand, all of them openly and publicly documenting like
no we're not doing this this is the heart and
this is a brain issue let's see that first and
then we'll go to the body where in the United
States like we just overlooked that completely right? I go
and I go there's other countries that are doing things

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too that you know we don't get to be a
part of. Yeah. Sheridan, how would you answer that?
And my response would be.
The truth that
God has
Everything under his control. He has everything under his guidance

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and his leadership, and there's a scripture that talks about,
we now see through a glass dimly, but then we'll
see face to face and
And we'll see more clearly, of course, as, you know,
as we grow here and especially when we uh get
to heaven.
But we live in a broken world and, you know,

(41:09):
we all have our crosses to bear. We all have
our different challenges, storms and difficulties and, and uh, it's
such a valid question and there is no like direct answer.
I don't believe to why do I get this and
why this other one.
Received that, you know, why was I born here and

(41:32):
someone else born there or in a condition that, you know,
is
Unfavorable and only, only, only God knows. And we, you know,
have to posture ourselves to just trust Him that Lord,
you know, I, I, I don't understand everything, but I

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just trust that that got your presence, your hand, your
guidance is with those families, with those children that got
you there and um
And I just come to a place where.
I just have to trust you and that that would
be my response. Any thoughts, Brian?

(42:13):
Yeah, that's good. She, and um I was thinking the
same thing, you know, there obviously there's certain things we don't,
we have no control over, like, you know,
Our birth, who we are, what color our skin is,
where we happen to be born in time or even

(42:34):
in geography. Yeah, so, uh, but I, but I do
think that what we, what it should push us toward
is um thankfulness.
For God's goodness and also a recognition of well I'm

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in this situation in this place and and I have
these benefits and blessings and I know there are folks
over there who don't maybe somehow God would want to
use me and he's put stuff in me and gifts
and opportunities and things that, you know, maybe maybe.
I would be, um, maybe I would be his hands

(43:15):
and feet to to those people and you know, you
think of like in the history of of missions, Sheridan,
you think of all of the, the people that, you know,
sort of maybe grew up in privileged culture and things
like that but decided they wanted to give their life
to those who were underprivileged or less privileged and so they.
They just forsook everything and went and and lived a

(43:39):
completely different life than they could have lived sacrificially because
of Jesus. And I think that that's maybe, maybe God
would say to your daughter, um, who is, you know,
nearing her finishing up college and all of that, um,
maybe there's something that he's put in her, maybe there's

(43:59):
some gifting that he's given her, maybe there's something that
she's learned through the process of her education.
That God might want to use to take and to
bring some kind of relief to those who are uh
less fortunate or suffering in in some sort of way.
I would say that's also better than blaming other people
and blaming society and, you know, certain forms of government

(44:24):
and everything else because that's kind of just an endless cycle,
you know, where do, where do you go with that?
You just go down further, you know, kind of down
down the um, the drain and then you, you end
up in despair, you end up in anger, you end up,
you can end up in violence and things like that
and that.
That never really solves anything, you know, it just creates

(44:45):
more problems for people, so yeah, and we never want
and let your daughter know we never want that thought
to cause her to not.
think that God is good, that anything that would change
her mindset and her focus on, on the goodness of
the Lord and uh and that's, you know, what

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But something like that can do if I dwell on
it like God, well, maybe you're not that maybe you're not,
you know, the Bible says you are, but that's why
it falls back on trust, you know, God, even when
I don't understand, I'm gonna trust you. Yeah, and, and
I think too what we end up doing is we
sort of, uh, project onto other people like how we

(45:27):
might feel about something and yet the reality is those
people who are in those, those really difficult circumstances so often.
They are their hope is in Jesus. Their hope is like,
you know, I got I got no hope out outside
of the Lord. Um, my, my wife has just reminded
me of this story the other day, um, there was

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uh a young woman who was in Cambodia, you know,
they had what what are called the killing fields back
in the time of the camage and the, the whole
communist thing and, you know, millions of people were murdered, um,
in this genocide and, um.
So there there were these people that were there and
they were on a bit of a tour that was,

(46:10):
you know, kind of showing them some of these mass
graves and things like that. And the young lady who
was giving the tour, the um the people from the west,
they said to her like, you know, how could you
even do a tour like this and to think that,
you know, your people, uh, you know, suffered this way,
and she said, well, actually, this is very real because

(46:31):
this very
Pit is where my literal.
Family was murdered and thrown into and but she's a
believer and so they're asking her like how, you know, how,
how do you even handle that? How do you navigate that?
And she just said, well, you know, basically just, you know,

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Jesus is the one who gave me the grace.
To go on, and the reason I can come here
today and do this is because of what God's done
for me, and I know that even though my family
was murdered, um,
That he took care of them as well. So that
reminds me of the song It is Well by Horace

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Stafford and losing his family and being able to, you know,
write that song, um, then you know it is well
with myself, yeah.
Very good. Thank you so much for calling in today
here on Pastor's Perspective. And now let's go to Curtis
in Minneapolis watching us on YouTube. So let's wave to Curtis. Uh,

(47:40):
how can we help you today, Curtis? What's your question?
Hello, hello. Yes, I'm blessed to actually even be here
to kind of get three of you gentlemen's perspectives, um,
and that actually kind of just kind of came about
from hearing how you guys speak to, I think the
first gentleman I heard you guys speaking to was about Hebrews, um,
and then, you know, the testimony of Jesus Christ versus

(48:03):
Judaism or what have you.
And my question is for the gentleman that's on, uh,
with the silver hair and the glasses, did you misspeak
when you said Judaism, because Judaism wasn't actually in the Bible. Um,
I believe the people at that time frame were more
following the laws of the commandments of Moses, or I'm sorry,
the commandments of God through Moses or what have you.

(48:23):
They didn't necessarily speak, speak as Judaism per se.
Um, well, no, they, they actually did have Judaism, yeah, yeah,
it's in the Bible, yeah, in Galatians, Paul, yeah, in, in,
in Galatians Paul uses the word Judaism. He says, I advanced, uh,
beyond my contemporaries in Judaism.

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OK, so Judaism is what, what, what does that mean then? Well, Judaism,
Judaism would be, um, not just the, the law of Moses.
Um, and the prophets and the things that we have
and what we commonly call the Old Testament, but it
would be the additional traditions that were placed on top

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of it by the teachers of the day who would
have been the, the Pharisees, and um they were called,
you know, individually, they would be the rabbis.
And they had um developed a uh an oral tradition
that they put on equal ground with the written scripture.

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And so for them, you couldn't separate the two and
you couldn't interpret the written word without the um the
traditional word or the oral law, as they would call it.
So that's what
That's what Judaism had become at the time of Jesus,
and that's what it remains, uh, to this day.

(49:54):
OK, so, so you're saying that it was separate. So
you're saying that the written law um that was given
to Moses was separate from Judaism that was present at
the time of Jesus. No, they were blended together, um,
that's the whole point. Judaism was, um, a blending of
the tradition of the elders and the, the laws of Moses.

(50:21):
OK, so when Christ, um, so when I go into
Matthew and or let me see actually.
Uh, uh, yeah, when I go into Matthew and it says, uh,
The 7, and this is actually chapters 7 and 2,
and this is actually Christ on the seat of judgment,

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and Christians are coming to him, or I would say
people that are saying that they're practicing Christianity. Right, right, yeah.
And he's saying that I profess to them, I never
knew you depart from me, ye that work iniquity, uh,
which is sin, and sin is transgression of the law. So,
so what is he telling them to depart from?

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Uh, why, why is he saying depart from me if,
if it, if the main, the main focus is on him,
why is he talking about this, this, this iniquity, this
law that they didn't keep.
Um, OK, back up, back up a little bit in the,
so you're in Matthew chapter 7, go back to Matthew
5 because this is gonna answer the the question, yeah.

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So Jesus says in Matthew chapter 5, you find this
a few times, he says, you have heard that it
was said by those of old, you shall not commit adultery.
But I say to you, if you look at a
woman to lust after her and so forth, you've already
committed adultery, uh, with her in your heart. You have
heard that it was said by those you shall not murder,
but I say to you.
So Jesus is not in conflict with what Moses said,

(51:48):
he's in conflict with the interpretation of the religious leaders
of the day, that would be Judaism. And so, when
you get to Matthew 7, Jesus is simply making the
point that um it's not gonna be those who said, uh,
we did this, that and the other thing, it's gonna
be those who actually um obeyed and believed God.

(52:12):
All right, very good. Curtis, thank you for your phone
call today here on Pastor's Perspective. And now let's go
to Eliana in San Bernardino. How can we help you today?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yes, say to you, pastor. Thank you for receiving my call. Oh,
you're welcome. I call. I listen to your program every
single time I am driving. I do not have a radio, OK?
So I listen to you and my uh vehicle radio
every time I drive, uh, you know, the station is

(52:46):
set up, uh, in your, in your station.
And many times I tried to get the phone number,
but um sometimes I don't get the phone number, but
today I did.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's because I say it so fast all the time.
I'm so used to just rattling it off. That's why
we need like Ed Stetzer here because he always says
it nice and slow, but my apologies for that. So
what we're running out of time on the program though.
What is your question for us?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Uh, OK. My son, my son's name is Jose.
Years, many years ago, he had an accident. Somebody hit
him with a uh uh with a kind of a,
a 4 and since then he has not been out
of pain. That is what, 20 years ago or a

(53:37):
little longer than that. OK. And he tells me that
every single day, day and night, he has
Pain all over his body. His doctors, you know, they
don't know what to do anymore. So they are giving
him a, uh, he has appointments for pain, um, uh, management, OK,

(54:02):
but uh he said, Mom, my body hurts from the
top of my head to the nails on my toes.
And I, you know, that, that really hurts me as
a mother.
Well, and he's an ordained minister, and he does the, the,
you know, he really, really loves and trusts our, our.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah. I'm only cutting you off because we're running out
of time. I know the music's going to start us
and we're gonna have to end the program, but the,
it says here on the screen that your son is
in so much pain that he is actually praying that
the Lord will just take him home. Uh, Brian, what
would you say to that?
Well, I would say let's pray. And Father, we do
pray for Jose, and we pray that you would give

(54:46):
him hope and Lord, um.
You know his pain and you know his suffering and Jesus, Jesus,
you know it, um, not just, you know, because you
know everything, but you know it because you lived through
the excruciating pain of crucifixion. And so Lord, we pray

(55:08):
for mercy, we pray for relief, we pray, Lord, just
that in some sense that there would be uh deliverance
and hope.
Um, instilled in its in the place of this pain,
so bless Jose. Touch him we ask in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

(55:29):
There's somebody else to add to your prayer list. Eliana's
son Jose. Thank you, Eliana, for calling in today. We're
out of time on today's episode of Pastor's Perspective, but
we'll be back tomorrow. If you couldn't get on today's program,
try again tomorrow between 3 and 4. We'll open up
the phone lines.
7 minutes before 3. Pastor Brian Broderson will be back tomorrow.
Pastor Sheridan McDaniel will be back on Thursday, and then

(55:51):
we're gonna go visit Pastor Sheridan this Sunday at a
place for worship in Anaheim. You can keep listening to
Kwave to find out all the details. God bless.