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May 1, 2025 55 mins

In this week’s episode Jason and Justin welcome Vincent "Rocco" Vargas, Border Patrol Medic and Actor known for his role as “Gilly” on the TV series Mayans M.C. He opens up about his upbringing, early exposure to gang life, and his experiences serving in the military. The conversation takes a powerful turn as he shares his post-war struggles with trauma and the emotional challenges that followed. Now working with the Border Patrol, he speaks about his desire to shift from taking lives to saving them. Together, the trio engage in a raw, honest discussion about the importance of mental health, emphasizing the need for open conversations—especially among men and those in high-risk professions.

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