February 18, 2025 • 27 mins
Too often we underrate the importance of patience, but sustainable growth will never happen overnight. If you want to make a lasting impact, patience is the price you’ll have to pay. In this episode, Alex kicks off a new series where he’ll be sharing principles, questions, and action items to help you become a leader who can sit with the discomfort of waiting. Make sure to follow the podcast so you don’t miss the next installment!
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Episode Recap:
- Patience is the price of impact (2:17)
- Are you willing to wait? (5:08)
- Growth is like an Allen wrench: for maximum leverage, you have to pull back (8:05)
- Many of us are far too comfortable with underrating patience (12:22)
- Growth without patience is not sustainable (13:25)
- Patience is uncomfortable and even painful at times (18:08)
- How to get the most out of this series (22:52)
- Reflect on these 3 questions today (25:49)
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Alex Judd (00:00):
Some of you, because I've talked to you, it's like
you wanna be married, but you'renot married right now. What do
you need? You need patience.Some of you, you're in a job
that you're like, man, I don'tknow if I should be in this job
anymore, but I I don't see abunch of alternatives. What do
you need?
You need patience. Some of youright now, man, the stage of
where your business is at,you're like, man, I I wanna be
in this business, but I need forit to be at a different stage. I
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don't wanna be buried by thisbusiness. I wanna work on this
business. What do you need tohave?
You need to have patience. Someof you right now, you're like,
man, it feels like we havestagnated as a business. And in
some ways, like, I need tocreate this into something that
I can own and not run. What areyou gonna have to have? You're
gonna have to have patience.
And there's gonna be painassociated with this season and
(00:43):
pain is not always bad.Sometimes discomfort can be the
indicator that you're in thegreatest season of growth of
your life, of your career and ofyour business. Hey there, if you
have not yet met, my name's AlexJudd. I'm the founder of Path
for Growth, and this is the Pathfor Growth podcast. Now as a
business, we exist to helpimpact driven leaders like you
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step into who they were createdto be so that others benefit and
God is glorified.
Hey, before we jump into today'sepisode, I want you to know
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link that's in the show notes.Let's go.
We say it all the time, thispodcast and this business being
Path for Growth exists for theimpact driven leader. Now, let's
think about what that means. Tobe impact driven means that you
are motivated by the audaciousbelief that you can actually
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make a difference, that lifeisn't happening to you and
you're not a victim ofcircumstances and outcomes. You
certainly don't get to imposeyour will on circumstances and
outcomes. However, you do get tobe an active participant.
Right? And you do get toinfluence circumstances and
outcomes. You can make animpact, but the person that we
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created the business for is notjust an impact driven person.
This business exists for impactdriven leaders. And to be an
impact driven leader, well, whatdoes that mean?
It means that you are committedto making a difference, making
an impact with, in, through, andfor other people. So let's think
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about that as a definition realquick. To be an impact driven
leader means that you arecommitted to making a difference
within, through, and for otherpeople. So now I I have a
question for you. What's theprice of impact?
It was so helpful for me, as Iwas thinking about kind of the
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person that we exist to serve toask this question. Okay. What's
the price of impact? And here'show I got to that question.
Impact is inarguably somethingthat's incredibly valuable.
Right? And it's something thatcertainly everyone who's
listening to this podcast andeveryone that's part of the Path
for Growth community deems asvaluable. Impact in itself is
valuable. And, well, anythingwith great value has a cost.
(03:59):
Right?
So if impact has great value, ithas a cost. Let's ask the
question, what's the cost? Like,what do we have to pay? What's
the price? And I actually thinkthat there's a multitude of ways
that you could answer thisquestion.
But, in my time, both pursuingbeing an impact driven leader
myself, working with impactdriven leaders on our team and
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in our customer base, observingimpact driven leaders for years
now, and and certainly buildinga business that exists to serve
this person, there's onevariable. There's one cost that
we all have to pay if we wannamake an impact that I actually
believe is nonnegotiable. Sothat kinda sets us up for this
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series. What is thenonnegotiable price of impact?
Patience.
Patience is the nonnegotiableprice of impact. And that's why
we're going to be doing a deepdive study into the value,
virtue, pursuit, and practice ofpatience on the podcast for the
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next couple of weeks. So sowhat's a definition of patience?
Well, let's start with a formaldefinition. It's the capacity to
tolerate challenges or delayswithout getting upset.
If we wanna make a difference,if we wanna make an impact,
maybe it's in our marriage,maybe it's in the life of our
children, maybe it's in ourbusiness, maybe it's in the
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community that we live andoperate in, maybe it's in the
marketplace as a whole or in ourindustry. If we wanna do that,
what do we have to have? We haveto have patience. And what is
patience? It's the capacity.
It's this internal ability thatyou have within yourself to
tolerate challenges or delayswithout getting upset. And in
some ways, I would say withoutquitting, without tapping out,
without hitting the ejectbutton. If we were to simplify
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that definition to three wordsthat we're gonna use a lot over
the course of this episode andthis series, I would say that
patience is a willingness towait. Because if we're going to
make a lasting, healthy, andsustainable impact, what do we
have to be able to do? Well, wehave to have a willingness to
wait.
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Organizationally, this isnecessary in every stage of
business. Right? You have towait. You have to be willing to
wait to find the right hire. Youhave to be willing to wait to
hit a worthwhile goal.
You have to be willing to waitfor the team to buy into an
idea. You have to be willing towait to find the right formula
for customer demand. You have tobe willing to wait to launch a
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product or project or service.You have to be willing to wait
to reach a certain stage ofbusiness that you've always
wanted to reach. You have to bewilling to wait and work through
a process to be able to fullydelegate in a healthy way.
You have to be willing to waitto have other leaders that can
make decisions on your team. Youhave to be willing to wait to
name a successor. You have to bewilling to wait to go on an off
the grid vacation. And all ofthis is actually possible.
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That's what I actually believe,and you better believe that too.
It's possible, but what's notpossible is for you to snap your
fingers and for all of thosethings to happen immediately.
What do you have to do? You haveto be willing to wait. We've
gotta be able to cultivatewithin ourselves the patience to
consistently pursue a worthwhilegoal. This is one of the things
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that human beings are uniquelycapable of.
Right? We have the ability toenvision something that doesn't
currently exist and then beabout the business of creating
it. However, if it's worthwhileand if it makes a difference and
if it makes an impact, if it'ssomething that you're actually
gonna be proud of, what do youhave to have? You have to have
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time to create that thing.Anything worthwhile takes time,
and if it's gonna take time,you've gotta be willing to keep
putting in the deposits, to keeptaking the steps, to keep
investing the effort, to keepbringing your best, to keep
applying excellence, you've gotto be willing to wait.
And what's crazy is that thevalue or the impact on the back
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end is often determined by ourwillingness to endure and wait
on the front end. I learned thisin business through a very
simple illustration, and theillustration is an Allen wrench.
Right? If you wanna pull forwarda little bit and have a little
bit of leverage, you only haveto pull back a little bit, and
then you can pull forward. Ifyou wanna pull forward
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optimally, maximally, if youwanna get maximum leverage, what
do you have to do?
You have to pull back the Allenwrench as far as you possibly
can so that you get maximumleverage to pull forward. But so
often, leaders and organizationsaren't structured in such a way
that they value a long pullback.We we make these little minute
(08:41):
pullbacks, and then we expectmassive leverage to move
forward. And in reality, man,the people that make an impact,
the leaders that make adifference in a healthy way over
an extended period of time, whatdo they do? They have the
ability to pull back when it'shidden, when people aren't
celebrating it, when it doesn'tseem.
They're patient, and becausethey're patient, they pull back.
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And then when the pull forwardactually happens, it actually
results in people getting servedin a really meaningful way and
an impact being made. Patienceis also incomprehensively
valuable in our personal life.You hopefully know this. You
gotta have patience to getmarried.
You gotta have patience to havekids. I think it's such a god
ordained thing that it's like,oh, you wanna have a kid? Okay.
(09:25):
Minimum nine months to prepare.Minimum.
Right? I think that's so good.We gotta have patience. We gotta
be willing to wait. You gottawait for kids to leave.
Right? You gotta have patience,and some of you are in that
stage right now. Then you gottawait for kids to come back, and
you gotta have to be patient forthat. You gotta wait to lose
weight. You gotta wait to knowyour calling.
You gotta wait to have answersto some of life's biggest
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questions. You gotta waitsometimes to heal. Sometimes
we're sick or sometimes we'rebroken. Sometimes it's our heart
that's really hurt. And it's notlike we can just snap our
fingers and for that to befixed, it takes time.
Sometimes you have to wait tofind joy on the other side of a
season of struggle andsuffering. In so many ways, this
virtue of patience can be sovaluable both organizationally
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and personally. And and Ibelieve the reason in so many
ways why it's so valuable for usto spend time, really
meditating, studying, andapplying this virtue of patience
is because it's connected to thebiblical ideas of humility,
endurance, forbearance, delayedgratification, and self control.
Now we can look at that wholelist of virtues and and say,
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man, that's so good. And one ofthe things that we have to
recognize, if we think humility,endurance, forbearance, delayed
gratification, and self controlare good, well, without a shadow
of a doubt in the biblicalcorpus, embedded in that word
cloud is always going to be theword patience.
Patience is one of the fruits ofthe spirit. Love, joy, peace,
patience, the willingness towait. Faith, goodness,
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gentleness, faithfulness, andself control. And as I was kind
of starting to look into thisvirtue of patience and starting
to think about what it wouldlook like for us to do, on
patience and its directconnections and practice for
impact driven leaders, what Ilearned is that, man, the
etymology of patience isactually directly connected to
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the idea of suffering. And andin so many ways, that's what
patience is.
Right? It's the tolerance ofpain for a desired outcome. It's
the the willingness to delaygratification to say, I'm not
gonna prioritize current presentcomfort. I'm going to actually
delay present comfortinconvenience for the sake of
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long term growth service andimpact. And that connects
directly to a principle we sayall the time on the podcast that
growth and comfort nevercoexist.
I often think, man, our companyis called path for growth, but
we could have just as easilycalled it path for discomfort.
And that is a way lessmarketable name for your
company, but it's actually true.Right? That if people are
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genuinely looking to grow, ifthey're genuinely looking to
serve, if they're genuinelylooking to make an impact,
what's it gonna cost them? It'sgonna cost some of their present
comfort, but the trade offthere, if you apply yourself
intentionally and if yousacrifice with a sense of
purpose, is that by delayinggratification, you're ultimately
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going to create impact.
And because it's so intimatelyintertwined with these ideas of
humility and endurance and selfcontrol and delayed
gratification, and it's thewillingness to tolerate pain for
a desired outcome. And, youknow, it makes sense that it's a
quality that's sorely neededtoday. And yet, I also think
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it's a quality that is ignoredat best and mocked or degraded
at worst. You know, so often wethink that, oh, patience is a
good thing to have. It's justnot for me and my season or my
stage, or we kinda laugh aboutit and we joke about it and we
make fun of the idea ofpatience.
I've I've literally, been aroundpeople that say, I agree that
patience is a virtue. It's justone that I don't have. And I
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know that's a little bit of asarcastic joke, and we can talk
about, oh, I'm just not patient,so we can laugh about it. But
one of the things that we shouldreckon with is that if we don't
have patience, we shouldn'texpect to make a lasting impact.
And therefore, it's probablybetter not to laugh about it.
It's probably better to ask thequestion, man, how do I go about
cultivating it? How do I goabout growing into patience?
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Now, it's probably not fullyaccurate to frame this podcast
as you can't have impact withoutpatients. I actually think that
we've probably all seenbusinesses and maybe even known
people, maybe we've even beenthese people, that create
massive waves, like create hugeimpact without exercising any
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patience. They didn't do any ofwhat we're talking about.
But here's what I know to betrue, is that every single time,
if you think about the casestudies, and some of them are
playing out right now, everysingle time this occurs where
you have massive waves, massiveimpact without paying the price
for impact, what is revealed?Well, it's corrosive to the
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soul, You know, it's kind ofwhat does it profit the man to
gain the whole world but loseits soul? It's that type of
thing. Right? It's like theygain everything really fast.
This is why Proverbs says do notprioritize hasty wealth because
wealth gained hastily willdwindle, and it encourages the
value of little by little overtime because so often, we don't
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have the character to keep uswhere this type of growth takes
us. It's corrosive to our soul,and we don't have the internal
infrastructure to be able tohold up, to be able to bear the
magnitude of results that fastgrowth creates. What else is
true? That that type of rapidgrowth, I would characterize it
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as unhealthy growth, growth thatisn't, supported and rooted in
the virtue of patience. It'sdetrimental to relationships.
Right? We we see people all thetime that it's like, yeah, your
business, you know, five x overthree years. Awesome. Great for
you. How's your marriage?
And that's not to say that youcan't five x a business in three
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years and have a great andhealthy marriage. It's just not
the norm. And what I do know isthat if you're gonna pursue that
level of intensity, it better bematched with the same degree, if
not more intentionality. But sooften, what we see is that when
people pursue impact and growthwithout patience, it's corrosive
to the soul, it's detrimental torelationships, and it's
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ultimately unsustainable. Thisis what Proverbs is talking
about when it says wealth gainhastily will dwindle.
That it's like, yeah, you mightbe this incredible flash in the
pan that everyone cheers for,everyone notices, your numbers
skyrocket, it's this externalgrowth that's absolutely insane.
But is it sustainable? Or areyou the marathon runner that
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I've been more times than I careto admit, where the gun fires at
the beginning, I mean, you'relooking like a world beater and
everyone's like, holy cow, thatguy could win this race if he
continues. But that phrase, ifhe continues, is actually really
important because almost always,if he continues at that pace,
well you can't continue at thatpace. And so, are you running a
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marathon or are you running asprint?
So many of you that I know, youwant to run a marathon, or you
wanna run an ultra marathon, oryou wanna be the type of leader
that runs their marathon andempowers other people to run
marathons too. And if that's thecase, then you're what we would
refer to as a long game leader,and you have to consider. It's
not an option. It's a nonnegotiable thing you have to
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consider. You have to considerthe sustainability of your
strategy.
This is why I've been soenamored lately with this idea
of long game leadership. It'sthe thing that we're gonna be
spending three days in Octoberat our in person experience
diving into as a path for growthcommunities because, man, we
choose a theme every singleyear. As the leaders of our
community get together, we say,man, what's gonna be the thing
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that's gonna jolt us to thinkabout our business, our life,
and our leadership in new waysif we really dive deep into it?
And and I was just it became soexcited about this idea of long
game leadership because theleaders that I most respect,
what's true about them? They'replaying the long game.
They're not as distracted orenamored with these things that
are superficial or temporarilyconvenient or comfortable or
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popular, right? They're saying,man, how do I invest my time,
energy, resources now so that ithas the greatest tail, not just
for me, but for other people?That's what we're talking about
when we're talking about longgame leadership, and that's one
of the reasons why I'm soexcited for that three day
experience in Austin in October.But, this idea of patience
really, for me, was a great wayto lay the foundation for what
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we're gonna be diving deep into,in that experience in October.
Because if we are going to bepeople, if we are going to be
leaders that make a lasting,healthy, and sustainable impact,
what has to be true?
Well, we have to be a people ofpatience. And so, I started
writing this and I was like,man, this is more than just an
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episode. I think that this is aseries, and here's why I think
this series is so important forus to spend legitimate time on.
Number one, when I say it's nonnegotiable, I actually think
it's non negotiable. Like, if wewant to be people of impact, we
have to be people of patience.
And that's just the way realityis structured. And because it's
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so abnormal and because it's socountercultural, it's gonna be
have it's gonna be somethingthat most of us won't stumble
into. It's gonna be somethingthat we have to intentionally
understand and cultivate. And sothat's the first reason why is
because it's nonnegotiable. And,man, the things that are
nonnegotiable as it relates toimpact are things that I wanna
study and be really familiarwith.
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Number two is because of thepain of patience. We said that
patience in so many ways is thewillingness to tolerate pain in
pursuit of a desired outcome.And, I mean, that says it.
Right? Patience can be painful.
And so what do you have to haveif you're going to be a leader
that exercises patience? Yougotta have some sense of
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encouragement. You gotta havesome sense of hope. You gotta
have some sense of, man, this isnested in some greater purpose,
and my character is beingdeveloped. And this is the type
of leader that I'm called to be.
And although no one else actsthis way right now, it seems
like this is the type of leaderthat I want to be. And, man,
that's gonna be painful. That'sgonna feel like struggle. You're
gonna wanna tap out at times.And so I wanna record this
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series because I know there'speople right now that you're
listening to this and you'relike, man, I am being required
to have patience right now.
Some of you, because I talked toyou, it's like you wanna be
married, but you're not marriedright now. What do you need? You
need patience. Some of you,you're in a job that you're
like, man, I don't know if Ishould be in this job anymore,
but I I don't see a bunch ofalternatives. What do you need?
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You need patience. Some of youright now, man, the stage of
where your business is at,you're like, man, I wanna be in
this business, but I need for itto be at a different stage. I
don't wanna be buried by thisbusiness. I wanna work on this
business. What do you need tohave?
You need to have patience. Someof you right now, you're like,
man, it feels like we havestagnated as a business. And in
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some ways, like, I need tocreate this into something that
I can own and not run. What areyou gonna have to have? You're
gonna have to have patience.
And there's gonna be painassociated with this season, and
pain is not always bad.Sometimes discomfort can be the
indicator that you're in thegreatest season of growth of
your life, of your career, andof your business. So what I
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wanna make sure you do is thatyou stay encouraged, that you
stay focused, you stay diligent,you keep serving people, you
keep glorifying God, and thatyou don't hit the eject button
before you should. And we'regonna get into it in the next
episode, like, the differencebetween productive discomfort
and unproductive discomfortbecause that's a, like,
critically important distinctionthat wise leaders always focus
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on. But, man, what do I need youto have if you're gonna be a
patient leader?
I need you to have thewillingness to tolerate the pain
in pursuit of the desiredoutcome. And so why this series?
Well, number one, it's anonnegotiable. Number two, we
gotta be able to endure the painassociated with patients. And
then number three, and we'vealready kind of alluded to it,
the value of a word ofencouragement and empathy.
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I've been in seasons of my lifethat required intense patience,
that I was waiting. And therewere times in those seasons
where I started to lose hope,and I almost did what I just
talked about where, like, I hitthe eject button. I almost said
I can't do this anymore. Ialmost said I don't wanna do
this anymore. And in reality, itwasn't that I couldn't do it
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anymore, it was that I waslosing my patience.
And almost every single time,God placed a person in my life
that was able to offer a word ofencouragement to say keep going,
don't you dare stop. Don't youdare quit. You keep moving
forward. Or they were to offerempathy, and they were able to
say, hey, man. I've been whereyou are, and I know what it
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feels like.
And I know that it sucks rightnow, but your current
circumstances do not determineyour future reality. And
sometimes, you don't need toleave. You don't need to exit.
You don't need to find a wayaround. You need to figure out
how to go through.
And so what I wanna provide youwith here in this series is a
word of encouragement, but alsoa word of empathy and to let you
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know that it's like this is apath that people have traversed
before. Right? Every businessthat was ever built that made a
healthy and sustainable impactrequired patience, and success
leaves clues. So you're not theonly one. Praise God for that.
And we can learn from peoplethat have walked this path
before. And in doing so, I thinkyou will feel really hopeful
about your ability to endure. Sowhat are we gonna walk through
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in this series? Well, we'regonna focus the next three
episodes on three questions.Number one is what does patients
know?
I'm gonna give you someprinciples that are gonna be
really critical for you tounderstand if you're gonna be
the type of person that has thepatience necessary to create a
healthy impact. Number two, whatdoes a patient leader do? We're
gonna talk about what does itlook like to make sure that
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you're setting yourself up to bepatient. And then finally, how
do you cultivate patients? Whatare the daily rhythms,
practices, habits?
What are the things that we canmake sure we have in our life so
that we cultivate a sense ofpatience? Because I deeply
believe this is the person, theman, the woman, the leader, the
Christ follower, the communityleader that you are called to be
if you're an impact drivenleader. And the way that I'm
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kinda putting together thisseries for the podcast, because
I've been thinking about thisfor a while, is I'm gonna
combine the best of what I'velearned, what I've read, and
what I've experienced orobserved on this topic, and
we're gonna just organize it.And what does patients know?
What does patients do?
And then how do you cultivateit? And so how do I want you to
engage with this series? Well,the first thing that I would
tell you is make sure yousubscribe to the podcast. This
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is a means of helping ensure youfollow through. Right?
Because it is a series. We wannamake sure you get every episode.
So we're gonna be releasing themover the course of the next
couple weeks. I wanna make sureyou get them as soon as they
come out. So please, please,please subscribe to the podcast.
And then I've got three actionsfor you. Listen thoughtfully. It
would be a little bit ironic tolisten to a podcast series on
patients at two x. Right? Somaybe don't do that on this one.
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It would be a little bitcontradictory to do that. So
maybe have some patience, slowdown, and listen thoughtfully.
And that connects to the secondaction, reflect intentionally.
This is one of the reasons whywe create the growth guide, and
so many of you are subscribed togrowth guide. So I hope that's
adding value to you.
It's cool to see how people areusing this, especially in their
offices. But this is just acompilation of all of the
principles, the resources, thequestions, the content, that we
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review in these episodes, and wewanted to put it in a PDF format
so that you could review it on arecurring basis. If you wanna
get that growth guide, just makesure you sign up in the show
notes of this episode. So wesaid we're gonna listen
thoughtfully, we're gonnareflect intentionally, and then
we're gonna discuss openly. Wesay this all the time, healthy
growth never occurs inisolation.
It always involves relationship.And, man, I'm gonna tell the
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story here in an upcomingepisode of, like, there was a
season in my life where the thetime that I mostly need patients
coincide directly with someoneelse that I was working with at
the time. And it was like, man,there were times where it's
like, I really need to talk tohim, and he would encourage me
be patient. And then, like, hewould come talk to me, like, a
week later, and I wouldencourage him. I'm like, hey,
man.
Be patient. And, man, god canuse our relationships to really
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help us tolerate the pain,continue moving forward, and
ultimately make an impact. So Iwanna make sure you take those
actions. Subscribe, listenthoughtfully, reflect
intentionally, and discussopenly. I've got some
application questions for you tothink about and maybe even for
you to discuss with the peopleon your team or your colleagues
or your friends as you gothrough this first episode and
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prepare for this series on thenon negotiable price of impact.
Number one, what's an area ofyour life or leadership that is
requiring patience in thisseason? Number two, what's the
pain, hardship, or challengeassociated with that need to be
patient? And number three, whatis the opportunity for impact
you are hoping, waiting, andworking for? Those are gonna be
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such powerful questions for youto think about prior to engaging
with these series, so make sureyou take those seriously. Maybe
write down your answers.
And also, if you wanna reviewthose, like we already said,
make sure you download thegrowth guide and link to that is
available in the show notes.Y'all, I'm so excited about this
series. I've been working reallyhard on this content, and my
prayer is that it blesses youwith the ability to endure, the
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ability to move forward, theability to grow and serve and
ultimately create an impact thatloves people and glorifies God.
Y'all know this. We're rootingfor you.
We're praying for you. We wannasee you win. Remember, my
strength is not for me. Yourstrength is not for you. Our
strength is for service.
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Some of you, because I've talked to you, it's like
you wanna be married, but you'renot married right now. What do
you need? You need patience.Some of you, you're in a job
that you're like, man, I don'tknow if I should be in this job
anymore, but I I don't see abunch of alternatives. What do
you need?
You need patience. Some of youright now, man, the stage of
where your business is at,you're like, man, I I wanna be
in this business, but I need forit to be at a different stage. I
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don't wanna be buried by thisbusiness. I wanna work on this
business. What do you need tohave?
You need to have patience. Someof you right now, you're like,
man, it feels like we havestagnated as a business. And in
some ways, like, I need tocreate this into something that
I can own and not run. What areyou gonna have to have? You're
gonna have to have patience.
And there's gonna be painassociated with this season and
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pain is not always bad.Sometimes discomfort can be the
indicator that you're in thegreatest season of growth of
your life, of your career and ofyour business. Hey there, if you
have not yet met, my name's AlexJudd. I'm the founder of Path
for Growth, and this is the Pathfor Growth podcast. Now as a
business, we exist to helpimpact driven leaders like you
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step into who they were createdto be so that others benefit and
God is glorified.
Hey, before we jump into today'sepisode, I want you to know
about a wildly valuable resourcethat our team created for you
and the people you lead. One ofthe most common pieces of
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each week from the podcast. Getthe Growth Guide by clicking the
link that's in the show notes.Let's go.
We say it all the time, thispodcast and this business being
Path for Growth exists for theimpact driven leader. Now, let's
think about what that means. Tobe impact driven means that you
are motivated by the audaciousbelief that you can actually
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make a difference, that lifeisn't happening to you and
you're not a victim ofcircumstances and outcomes. You
certainly don't get to imposeyour will on circumstances and
outcomes. However, you do get tobe an active participant.
Right? And you do get toinfluence circumstances and
outcomes. You can make animpact, but the person that we
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created the business for is notjust an impact driven person.
This business exists for impactdriven leaders. And to be an
impact driven leader, well, whatdoes that mean?
It means that you are committedto making a difference, making
an impact with, in, through, andfor other people. So let's think
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about that as a definition realquick. To be an impact driven
leader means that you arecommitted to making a difference
within, through, and for otherpeople. So now I I have a
question for you. What's theprice of impact?
It was so helpful for me, as Iwas thinking about kind of the
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person that we exist to serve toask this question. Okay. What's
the price of impact? And here'show I got to that question.
Impact is inarguably somethingthat's incredibly valuable.
Right? And it's something thatcertainly everyone who's
listening to this podcast andeveryone that's part of the Path
for Growth community deems asvaluable. Impact in itself is
valuable. And, well, anythingwith great value has a cost.
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Right?
So if impact has great value, ithas a cost. Let's ask the
question, what's the cost? Like,what do we have to pay? What's
the price? And I actually thinkthat there's a multitude of ways
that you could answer thisquestion.
But, in my time, both pursuingbeing an impact driven leader
myself, working with impactdriven leaders on our team and
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in our customer base, observingimpact driven leaders for years
now, and and certainly buildinga business that exists to serve
this person, there's onevariable. There's one cost that
we all have to pay if we wannamake an impact that I actually
believe is nonnegotiable. Sothat kinda sets us up for this
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series. What is thenonnegotiable price of impact?
Patience.
Patience is the nonnegotiableprice of impact. And that's why
we're going to be doing a deepdive study into the value,
virtue, pursuit, and practice ofpatience on the podcast for the
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next couple of weeks. So sowhat's a definition of patience?
Well, let's start with a formaldefinition. It's the capacity to
tolerate challenges or delayswithout getting upset.
If we wanna make a difference,if we wanna make an impact,
maybe it's in our marriage,maybe it's in the life of our
children, maybe it's in ourbusiness, maybe it's in the
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community that we live andoperate in, maybe it's in the
marketplace as a whole or in ourindustry. If we wanna do that,
what do we have to have? We haveto have patience. And what is
patience? It's the capacity.
It's this internal ability thatyou have within yourself to
tolerate challenges or delayswithout getting upset. And in
some ways, I would say withoutquitting, without tapping out,
without hitting the ejectbutton. If we were to simplify
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that definition to three wordsthat we're gonna use a lot over
the course of this episode andthis series, I would say that
patience is a willingness towait. Because if we're going to
make a lasting, healthy, andsustainable impact, what do we
have to be able to do? Well, wehave to have a willingness to
wait.
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Organizationally, this isnecessary in every stage of
business. Right? You have towait. You have to be willing to
wait to find the right hire. Youhave to be willing to wait to
hit a worthwhile goal.
You have to be willing to waitfor the team to buy into an
idea. You have to be willing towait to find the right formula
for customer demand. You have tobe willing to wait to launch a
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product or project or service.You have to be willing to wait
to reach a certain stage ofbusiness that you've always
wanted to reach. You have to bewilling to wait and work through
a process to be able to fullydelegate in a healthy way.
You have to be willing to waitto have other leaders that can
make decisions on your team. Youhave to be willing to wait to
name a successor. You have to bewilling to wait to go on an off
the grid vacation. And all ofthis is actually possible.
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That's what I actually believe,and you better believe that too.
It's possible, but what's notpossible is for you to snap your
fingers and for all of thosethings to happen immediately.
What do you have to do? You haveto be willing to wait. We've
gotta be able to cultivatewithin ourselves the patience to
consistently pursue a worthwhilegoal. This is one of the things
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that human beings are uniquelycapable of.
Right? We have the ability toenvision something that doesn't
currently exist and then beabout the business of creating
it. However, if it's worthwhileand if it makes a difference and
if it makes an impact, if it'ssomething that you're actually
gonna be proud of, what do youhave to have? You have to have
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time to create that thing.Anything worthwhile takes time,
and if it's gonna take time,you've gotta be willing to keep
putting in the deposits, to keeptaking the steps, to keep
investing the effort, to keepbringing your best, to keep
applying excellence, you've gotto be willing to wait.
And what's crazy is that thevalue or the impact on the back
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end is often determined by ourwillingness to endure and wait
on the front end. I learned thisin business through a very
simple illustration, and theillustration is an Allen wrench.
Right? If you wanna pull forwarda little bit and have a little
bit of leverage, you only haveto pull back a little bit, and
then you can pull forward. Ifyou wanna pull forward
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optimally, maximally, if youwanna get maximum leverage, what
do you have to do?
You have to pull back the Allenwrench as far as you possibly
can so that you get maximumleverage to pull forward. But so
often, leaders and organizationsaren't structured in such a way
that they value a long pullback.We we make these little minute
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pullbacks, and then we expectmassive leverage to move
forward. And in reality, man,the people that make an impact,
the leaders that make adifference in a healthy way over
an extended period of time, whatdo they do? They have the
ability to pull back when it'shidden, when people aren't
celebrating it, when it doesn'tseem.
They're patient, and becausethey're patient, they pull back.
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And then when the pull forwardactually happens, it actually
results in people getting servedin a really meaningful way and
an impact being made. Patienceis also incomprehensively
valuable in our personal life.You hopefully know this. You
gotta have patience to getmarried.
You gotta have patience to havekids. I think it's such a god
ordained thing that it's like,oh, you wanna have a kid? Okay.
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Minimum nine months to prepare.Minimum.
Right? I think that's so good.We gotta have patience. We gotta
be willing to wait. You gottawait for kids to leave.
Right? You gotta have patience,and some of you are in that
stage right now. Then you gottawait for kids to come back, and
you gotta have to be patient forthat. You gotta wait to lose
weight. You gotta wait to knowyour calling.
You gotta wait to have answersto some of life's biggest
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questions. You gotta waitsometimes to heal. Sometimes
we're sick or sometimes we'rebroken. Sometimes it's our heart
that's really hurt. And it's notlike we can just snap our
fingers and for that to befixed, it takes time.
Sometimes you have to wait tofind joy on the other side of a
season of struggle andsuffering. In so many ways, this
virtue of patience can be sovaluable both organizationally
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and personally. And and Ibelieve the reason in so many
ways why it's so valuable for usto spend time, really
meditating, studying, andapplying this virtue of patience
is because it's connected to thebiblical ideas of humility,
endurance, forbearance, delayedgratification, and self control.
Now we can look at that wholelist of virtues and and say,
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man, that's so good. And one ofthe things that we have to
recognize, if we think humility,endurance, forbearance, delayed
gratification, and self controlare good, well, without a shadow
of a doubt in the biblicalcorpus, embedded in that word
cloud is always going to be theword patience.
Patience is one of the fruits ofthe spirit. Love, joy, peace,
patience, the willingness towait. Faith, goodness,
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gentleness, faithfulness, andself control. And as I was kind
of starting to look into thisvirtue of patience and starting
to think about what it wouldlook like for us to do, on
patience and its directconnections and practice for
impact driven leaders, what Ilearned is that, man, the
etymology of patience isactually directly connected to
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the idea of suffering. And andin so many ways, that's what
patience is.
Right? It's the tolerance ofpain for a desired outcome. It's
the the willingness to delaygratification to say, I'm not
gonna prioritize current presentcomfort. I'm going to actually
delay present comfortinconvenience for the sake of
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long term growth service andimpact. And that connects
directly to a principle we sayall the time on the podcast that
growth and comfort nevercoexist.
I often think, man, our companyis called path for growth, but
we could have just as easilycalled it path for discomfort.
And that is a way lessmarketable name for your
company, but it's actually true.Right? That if people are
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genuinely looking to grow, ifthey're genuinely looking to
serve, if they're genuinelylooking to make an impact,
what's it gonna cost them? It'sgonna cost some of their present
comfort, but the trade offthere, if you apply yourself
intentionally and if yousacrifice with a sense of
purpose, is that by delayinggratification, you're ultimately
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going to create impact.
And because it's so intimatelyintertwined with these ideas of
humility and endurance and selfcontrol and delayed
gratification, and it's thewillingness to tolerate pain for
a desired outcome. And, youknow, it makes sense that it's a
quality that's sorely neededtoday. And yet, I also think
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it's a quality that is ignoredat best and mocked or degraded
at worst. You know, so often wethink that, oh, patience is a
good thing to have. It's justnot for me and my season or my
stage, or we kinda laugh aboutit and we joke about it and we
make fun of the idea ofpatience.
I've I've literally, been aroundpeople that say, I agree that
patience is a virtue. It's justone that I don't have. And I
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know that's a little bit of asarcastic joke, and we can talk
about, oh, I'm just not patient,so we can laugh about it. But
one of the things that we shouldreckon with is that if we don't
have patience, we shouldn'texpect to make a lasting impact.
And therefore, it's probablybetter not to laugh about it.
It's probably better to ask thequestion, man, how do I go about
cultivating it? How do I goabout growing into patience?
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Now, it's probably not fullyaccurate to frame this podcast
as you can't have impact withoutpatients. I actually think that
we've probably all seenbusinesses and maybe even known
people, maybe we've even beenthese people, that create
massive waves, like create hugeimpact without exercising any
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patience. They didn't do any ofwhat we're talking about.
But here's what I know to betrue, is that every single time,
if you think about the casestudies, and some of them are
playing out right now, everysingle time this occurs where
you have massive waves, massiveimpact without paying the price
for impact, what is revealed?Well, it's corrosive to the
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soul, You know, it's kind ofwhat does it profit the man to
gain the whole world but loseits soul? It's that type of
thing. Right? It's like theygain everything really fast.
This is why Proverbs says do notprioritize hasty wealth because
wealth gained hastily willdwindle, and it encourages the
value of little by little overtime because so often, we don't
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have the character to keep uswhere this type of growth takes
us. It's corrosive to our soul,and we don't have the internal
infrastructure to be able tohold up, to be able to bear the
magnitude of results that fastgrowth creates. What else is
true? That that type of rapidgrowth, I would characterize it
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as unhealthy growth, growth thatisn't, supported and rooted in
the virtue of patience. It'sdetrimental to relationships.
Right? We we see people all thetime that it's like, yeah, your
business, you know, five x overthree years. Awesome. Great for
you. How's your marriage?
And that's not to say that youcan't five x a business in three
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years and have a great andhealthy marriage. It's just not
the norm. And what I do know isthat if you're gonna pursue that
level of intensity, it better bematched with the same degree, if
not more intentionality. But sooften, what we see is that when
people pursue impact and growthwithout patience, it's corrosive
to the soul, it's detrimental torelationships, and it's
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ultimately unsustainable. Thisis what Proverbs is talking
about when it says wealth gainhastily will dwindle.
That it's like, yeah, you mightbe this incredible flash in the
pan that everyone cheers for,everyone notices, your numbers
skyrocket, it's this externalgrowth that's absolutely insane.
But is it sustainable? Or areyou the marathon runner that
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I've been more times than I careto admit, where the gun fires at
the beginning, I mean, you'relooking like a world beater and
everyone's like, holy cow, thatguy could win this race if he
continues. But that phrase, ifhe continues, is actually really
important because almost always,if he continues at that pace,
well you can't continue at thatpace. And so, are you running a
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marathon or are you running asprint?
So many of you that I know, youwant to run a marathon, or you
wanna run an ultra marathon, oryou wanna be the type of leader
that runs their marathon andempowers other people to run
marathons too. And if that's thecase, then you're what we would
refer to as a long game leader,and you have to consider. It's
not an option. It's a nonnegotiable thing you have to
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consider. You have to considerthe sustainability of your
strategy.
This is why I've been soenamored lately with this idea
of long game leadership. It'sthe thing that we're gonna be
spending three days in Octoberat our in person experience
diving into as a path for growthcommunities because, man, we
choose a theme every singleyear. As the leaders of our
community get together, we say,man, what's gonna be the thing
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that's gonna jolt us to thinkabout our business, our life,
and our leadership in new waysif we really dive deep into it?
And and I was just it became soexcited about this idea of long
game leadership because theleaders that I most respect,
what's true about them? They'replaying the long game.
They're not as distracted orenamored with these things that
are superficial or temporarilyconvenient or comfortable or
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popular, right? They're saying,man, how do I invest my time,
energy, resources now so that ithas the greatest tail, not just
for me, but for other people?That's what we're talking about
when we're talking about longgame leadership, and that's one
of the reasons why I'm soexcited for that three day
experience in Austin in October.But, this idea of patience
really, for me, was a great wayto lay the foundation for what
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we're gonna be diving deep into,in that experience in October.
Because if we are going to bepeople, if we are going to be
leaders that make a lasting,healthy, and sustainable impact,
what has to be true?
Well, we have to be a people ofpatience. And so, I started
writing this and I was like,man, this is more than just an
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episode. I think that this is aseries, and here's why I think
this series is so important forus to spend legitimate time on.
Number one, when I say it's nonnegotiable, I actually think
it's non negotiable. Like, if wewant to be people of impact, we
have to be people of patience.
And that's just the way realityis structured. And because it's
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so abnormal and because it's socountercultural, it's gonna be
have it's gonna be somethingthat most of us won't stumble
into. It's gonna be somethingthat we have to intentionally
understand and cultivate. And sothat's the first reason why is
because it's nonnegotiable. And,man, the things that are
nonnegotiable as it relates toimpact are things that I wanna
study and be really familiarwith.
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Number two is because of thepain of patience. We said that
patience in so many ways is thewillingness to tolerate pain in
pursuit of a desired outcome.And, I mean, that says it.
Right? Patience can be painful.
And so what do you have to haveif you're going to be a leader
that exercises patience? Yougotta have some sense of
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encouragement. You gotta havesome sense of hope. You gotta
have some sense of, man, this isnested in some greater purpose,
and my character is beingdeveloped. And this is the type
of leader that I'm called to be.
And although no one else actsthis way right now, it seems
like this is the type of leaderthat I want to be. And, man,
that's gonna be painful. That'sgonna feel like struggle. You're
gonna wanna tap out at times.And so I wanna record this
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series because I know there'speople right now that you're
listening to this and you'relike, man, I am being required
to have patience right now.
Some of you, because I talked toyou, it's like you wanna be
married, but you're not marriedright now. What do you need? You
need patience. Some of you,you're in a job that you're
like, man, I don't know if Ishould be in this job anymore,
but I I don't see a bunch ofalternatives. What do you need?
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You need patience. Some of youright now, man, the stage of
where your business is at,you're like, man, I wanna be in
this business, but I need for itto be at a different stage. I
don't wanna be buried by thisbusiness. I wanna work on this
business. What do you need tohave?
You need to have patience. Someof you right now, you're like,
man, it feels like we havestagnated as a business. And in
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some ways, like, I need tocreate this into something that
I can own and not run. What areyou gonna have to have? You're
gonna have to have patience.
And there's gonna be painassociated with this season, and
pain is not always bad.Sometimes discomfort can be the
indicator that you're in thegreatest season of growth of
your life, of your career, andof your business. So what I
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wanna make sure you do is thatyou stay encouraged, that you
stay focused, you stay diligent,you keep serving people, you
keep glorifying God, and thatyou don't hit the eject button
before you should. And we'regonna get into it in the next
episode, like, the differencebetween productive discomfort
and unproductive discomfortbecause that's a, like,
critically important distinctionthat wise leaders always focus
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on. But, man, what do I need youto have if you're gonna be a
patient leader?
I need you to have thewillingness to tolerate the pain
in pursuit of the desiredoutcome. And so why this series?
Well, number one, it's anonnegotiable. Number two, we
gotta be able to endure the painassociated with patients. And
then number three, and we'vealready kind of alluded to it,
the value of a word ofencouragement and empathy.
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I've been in seasons of my lifethat required intense patience,
that I was waiting. And therewere times in those seasons
where I started to lose hope,and I almost did what I just
talked about where, like, I hitthe eject button. I almost said
I can't do this anymore. Ialmost said I don't wanna do
this anymore. And in reality, itwasn't that I couldn't do it
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anymore, it was that I waslosing my patience.
And almost every single time,God placed a person in my life
that was able to offer a word ofencouragement to say keep going,
don't you dare stop. Don't youdare quit. You keep moving
forward. Or they were to offerempathy, and they were able to
say, hey, man. I've been whereyou are, and I know what it
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feels like.
And I know that it sucks rightnow, but your current
circumstances do not determineyour future reality. And
sometimes, you don't need toleave. You don't need to exit.
You don't need to find a wayaround. You need to figure out
how to go through.
And so what I wanna provide youwith here in this series is a
word of encouragement, but alsoa word of empathy and to let you
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know that it's like this is apath that people have traversed
before. Right? Every businessthat was ever built that made a
healthy and sustainable impactrequired patience, and success
leaves clues. So you're not theonly one. Praise God for that.
And we can learn from peoplethat have walked this path
before. And in doing so, I thinkyou will feel really hopeful
about your ability to endure. Sowhat are we gonna walk through
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in this series? Well, we'regonna focus the next three
episodes on three questions.Number one is what does patients
know?
I'm gonna give you someprinciples that are gonna be
really critical for you tounderstand if you're gonna be
the type of person that has thepatience necessary to create a
healthy impact. Number two, whatdoes a patient leader do? We're
gonna talk about what does itlook like to make sure that
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you're setting yourself up to bepatient. And then finally, how
do you cultivate patients? Whatare the daily rhythms,
practices, habits?
What are the things that we canmake sure we have in our life so
that we cultivate a sense ofpatience? Because I deeply
believe this is the person, theman, the woman, the leader, the
Christ follower, the communityleader that you are called to be
if you're an impact drivenleader. And the way that I'm
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kinda putting together thisseries for the podcast, because
I've been thinking about thisfor a while, is I'm gonna
combine the best of what I'velearned, what I've read, and
what I've experienced orobserved on this topic, and
we're gonna just organize it.And what does patients know?
What does patients do?
And then how do you cultivateit? And so how do I want you to
engage with this series? Well,the first thing that I would
tell you is make sure yousubscribe to the podcast. This
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is a means of helping ensure youfollow through. Right?
Because it is a series. We wannamake sure you get every episode.
So we're gonna be releasing themover the course of the next
couple weeks. I wanna make sureyou get them as soon as they
come out. So please, please,please subscribe to the podcast.
And then I've got three actionsfor you. Listen thoughtfully. It
would be a little bit ironic tolisten to a podcast series on
patients at two x. Right? Somaybe don't do that on this one.
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It would be a little bitcontradictory to do that. So
maybe have some patience, slowdown, and listen thoughtfully.
And that connects to the secondaction, reflect intentionally.
This is one of the reasons whywe create the growth guide, and
so many of you are subscribed togrowth guide. So I hope that's
adding value to you.
It's cool to see how people areusing this, especially in their
offices. But this is just acompilation of all of the
principles, the resources, thequestions, the content, that we
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review in these episodes, and wewanted to put it in a PDF format
so that you could review it on arecurring basis. If you wanna
get that growth guide, just makesure you sign up in the show
notes of this episode. So wesaid we're gonna listen
thoughtfully, we're gonnareflect intentionally, and then
we're gonna discuss openly. Wesay this all the time, healthy
growth never occurs inisolation.
It always involves relationship.And, man, I'm gonna tell the
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story here in an upcomingepisode of, like, there was a
season in my life where the thetime that I mostly need patients
coincide directly with someoneelse that I was working with at
the time. And it was like, man,there were times where it's
like, I really need to talk tohim, and he would encourage me
be patient. And then, like, hewould come talk to me, like, a
week later, and I wouldencourage him. I'm like, hey,
man.
Be patient. And, man, god canuse our relationships to really
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help us tolerate the pain,continue moving forward, and
ultimately make an impact. So Iwanna make sure you take those
actions. Subscribe, listenthoughtfully, reflect
intentionally, and discussopenly. I've got some
application questions for you tothink about and maybe even for
you to discuss with the peopleon your team or your colleagues
or your friends as you gothrough this first episode and
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prepare for this series on thenon negotiable price of impact.
Number one, what's an area ofyour life or leadership that is
requiring patience in thisseason? Number two, what's the
pain, hardship, or challengeassociated with that need to be
patient? And number three, whatis the opportunity for impact
you are hoping, waiting, andworking for? Those are gonna be
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such powerful questions for youto think about prior to engaging
with these series, so make sureyou take those seriously. Maybe
write down your answers.
And also, if you wanna reviewthose, like we already said,
make sure you download thegrowth guide and link to that is
available in the show notes.Y'all, I'm so excited about this
series. I've been working reallyhard on this content, and my
prayer is that it blesses youwith the ability to endure, the
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ability to move forward, theability to grow and serve and
ultimately create an impact thatloves people and glorifies God.
Y'all know this. We're rootingfor you.
We're praying for you. We wannasee you win. Remember, my
strength is not for me. Yourstrength is not for you. Our
strength is for service.
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
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