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This week we continue to look at Abram and talk about his separation with Lot that ultimately led to God giving him the land of Canaan. 

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Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (00:09):
Hello and welcome to A Path to Redemption, the
podcast.
My name is Daniel Arona, andjust remember the simple truth.
The Father loves you, Jesusloves you, and the Holy Spirit
loves you.
Once again, I hope that you'vehad a great week.
I hope that you've had time tospend with the Lord in prayer
and also in his scripture.
And once again, I know I say itevery week, but I truly, truly
believe that the rapture isimminent.
I believe that this thing iswrapping up.

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Just look at what's happening inthe world, and you can
absolutely see that.
So just make sure that you aredoing the work.
Make sure that you are about hisbusiness and what he wants you
to do.
Because again, it's alwaysbetter for the Lord to come back
and find us working and doingthe work that he's called us to
do, whatever it may be, and thatwe're sharing the gospel with
other people and telling themabout Jesus Christ and

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ultimately letting them maketheir own decisions at that
point as well, because that'swhat they have to do.
Just the same way that we had tomake our own decision, they have
to make theirs.
But it is our responsibility toat least tell them and offer
them Jesus Christ.
And I think it's important.
And there's just so muchhappening here in the world and
And, you know, from the Franceand the UK about to recognize a

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Palestinian state and amongstother nations like Ireland
already has or some othernations that already have.
But it's a growing number ofEuropean powers that are now
going to recognize a Palestinianstate.
And look, we'll talk a littlebit about this here in a second.
But here's the thing I will sayis that God doesn't want his
land divided.
I think that that's a key pointhere.

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And my only question is that Ithink they're actually
circumventing the rules of theUN in the recognition.
of a Palestinian state becauseit has to have an established
border, established government,and a desire to be part of the
global community.
And I don't think that reallyany of those are true here.
And I'm not exactly sure whatpart of land that they're going
to try and recognize for aPalestinian state.

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It may be the Gaza Strip, and itmay be the West Bank, which is
Judea and Samaria, which theworld recognizes as occupied by
Israel.
But if you actually go back andread through scripture, it would
israel's to begin with untilthey lost it during the when the
syrians came in and took it andactually resettled it so um

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there's a lot of history intothat again we're going to go in
through a lot of that we'rereally far away away from that
point um but i also need to kindof kind of level set here and i
probably should have done thislast episode but i want to level
set i'm walking you through abiblical understanding of the
land of israel whose land it isum what happened to it why it

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was the way it was and trying toto paint the picture here about
why it belongs to Israel andthose things.
Now, I don't want you to takethat as a carte blanche
endorsement of everything theIsraeli government does.
It's no different than any othergovernment.
It is secular.
It is man-made.
And if it's a man system, thenman's in it.

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So there's probably corruptionin it.
And through that, do I thinkthat they have a right to defend
themselves?
Absolutely.
I think they have a right todefend themselves.
Do I always agree with how theydo it?
No, absolutely not.
And same thing can be said forour own government here in the
United States.
You know, I don't always agree,but at the end of the day, it's
my responsibility to pray forour leaders and to pray that

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they exercise wisdom and thatGod would lead and guide them.
We're also supposed to pray forthe peace of Jerusalem as well.
And we're supposed to pray forthe nation of Israel.
And if you think that, oh, thechurch has replaced Israel and
all of that stuff, you need togo back and read the book of
Zechariah because Zechariahwhich is the equivalent of
Revelation just in the OldTestament, really talks about

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how the Jews are going to atsome point be reconciled back to
God through Jesus Christ.
It's going to take a lot.
It's going to take theseven-year tribulation.
Two-thirds of them are going todie.
That's written in Zechariah.
But at the end of this age, theywill be reconciled to God
through Jesus Christ.

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So for us, though, we just needto pray.
And we need to pray that theLord would set out a revival in
amongst the Jewish peoplebecause if there's only three
left that don't believe, thenguess what?
Only two of them have to die,right?
In terms of what the scripturesays.
And we just need to make surethat we're praying because the
more people, more Jewsespecially, that can get saved,

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the less they're going to haveto perish during that time.
So again, I didn't write thebook.
I'm not the one that prophesiedit.
It was Zechariah that did.
And it's pretty clear inscripture what is going to
happen.
But I want to be clear here,right?
This is a walkthrough.
I want you to understand exactlywho the people are.
I want you to understand whyit's important that that land
not be divided again.

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I want you to understand whatour role is as Christians
towards the Jewish people are,and it's to pray and it's to see
that as many of them can getsaved as possible.
Amen.
So with that, last week, welooked at the origins of Abram
and the promise for the land ofCanaan.
This week, we're actually goingto look at that God officially

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gives the land of Canaan toAbram.
And we're We're also going tolook at the separation of Lot
here as well.
So with that, again, all of ourscripture comes from the New
King James Bible.
If you'd like a copy of the NewKing James Bible, feel free to
drop a note atPathToRedemptionOhio at
gmail.com.
More than happy to put one intoyour hands.
Also, my book's out, GraceAbounds.

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If you'd like a copy of that,feel free to drop me a note,
again, at PathToRedemptionOhioat gmail.com.
And then finally, once again,don't take my word for it.
Make sure that you are puttingin the work, studying to show
yourself approved unto God anddoing the thing that God has
called you to do.
Amen.
So with that, let's go ahead andjump in.

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Abram comes back to the PromisedLand.
As we've discussed before, Egyptalmost always represents the
world.
In this case, Abram comes backfrom Egypt not to famine, but to
abundance after his time inEgypt.
And one possible way to kind oflook at this is also kind of the
way it was with Jesus, right?
He left his heavenly abode, leftthe place that he was, went into

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the world, accomplished exactlywhat he wanted to accomplish,
and then came back to thePromised Land.
So it's a really interestingconcept there.
And he came back, when Jesuscame back, he came back with his
inheritance.
If you want to see that, that'sin Psalm 2, where it talks about
how the nations of this worldwould be his inheritance.
So we know that he's going toset up a millennial kingdom

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because of the work that he did.
And similar here with Abram,right?
He comes back, he gets enrichedin Egypt.
He comes back with muchlivestock, silver, gold,
servants, the whole deal.
And he's returning back to thebeginning.
He returns back to where thealtar was when God gave him the
promise of the land.

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Again, there are several waysthat you can preach this, but in
this case, as the seed died ofthe promise with him going to
Egypt, when it sprouts, itsprouts in the same spot.
God will prosper you where heplants you.
And I can't stress that partenough either.
Abram was going to be planted inthe promised land.
Now he had to go down to Egyptfor a little bit and say it's a
trial, say it's tribulation,whatever you may call it.

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But at the end of the day, hehad to go down there and he
comes back and he is to beplanted in Canaan, in the land
of Canaan.
You see, too often we don't wantto stay where God has us,
whether it's because ofactivities that other churches
offer or whatever it is, webegin to look to go where God
does not want us to go.
Whatever the reason, frankly, itgets in the way of our

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relationship.
We all must be planted exactlywhere God wants for us to
prosper the way that he intendsto.
Okay, now sometimes that meansthat we're going to have to walk
through some things as well,even within that church.
We're going to have to humbleourselves.
We're going to have to learn tobe discipled.
We're going to have to submit toone another.
We're going to have to know thepeople that labor among us.
But if you do all of that, thenGod will prosper you exactly

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where you're supposed to be.
So make sure that any time youmove, any time you're moving
churches or you're wondering ifyou should stay at a church or
not, make sure you are doing itall by prayer.
Make sure that you are focusedon the prayer, making sure that
you are listening to what theLord is leading you to do,
because the last thing you wantis to go and shipwreck and not

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stay where God wants youplanted.
Amen?
Now, Lot is the interestingpiece in Abram's story, and in
Genesis 13, 5-7, this is what itsays.
Lot also, who went with Abram,had flocks and herds and tents.
Now the land was not able tosupport them, that they might
dwell together, for theirpossessions were so great that
they could not dwell together.

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And there was strife between theherdsmen of Abram's livestock
and the herdsmen of Lot's Now,Lot being under Abram's roof
also received the blessings thatfell off of him.
You see, Lot starts off herewith Abram, but he will depart
and leave.
And in the end, he will berunning with his family from the

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destruction of Sodom and end upwith nothing.
But for the time that he wasunder the tent, he prospered.
Now, again, Lot wasn't supposedto be there anyway.
And this often will lead tostrife when we do things on our
own.
and not in the way that God hadintended.
It will always lead to strife,challenge, struggles, whatever

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you want to call it.
James says this in James 4, 1-3,where he says, Where do wars and
fights come from among you?
Do they not come from yourdesires for pleasure, that war
in your members?
You lust and do not have, youmurder and covet and cannot
obtain, you fight and war, yetyou do not ask and you ask and
do not receive because you askand miss that you may spend it

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on your own pleasure.
And see, that's kind of thewhole thing here, right?
When we go in our own way, whenwe go not the way that God leads
us, not the way that God tellsus, because God was very clear
to Abram, like, look, hey, leaveyour family and get out, yet Lot
goes with him.
So now you have strife, right?
And ultimately, Lot's going togo down, he's going to go into
the plain, and he's going todwell with the Canaanites and

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the Perizzites, who God hasalready marked for defeat later.
But we'll get to that when weget there as well.
So Genesis 13, 8 through 13 saysthis.
So Abram said to Lot, So here wesee the separation of Lot and

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Abram.
Okay, this was always going tohappen.
Okay, he was not supposed to goto begin with, and now it is
time for Abram to separate fromLot.
So Abram Abram gives him thechoice of the land.

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Abram very easily could havesaid that he was taking the
plain, but rather he gave Lotthe choice.
And Lot chose the plain becauseof the green pastures.
But he did it either notrealizing or not caring that
Sodom was as wicked as they werebefore the Lord.
The other thing here is that Lothad to get out of Canaan because
Canaan had already been promisedto Abram.

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It was not promised to Lot.
Lot is not a descendant ofAbram.
He's his nephew.
So if it's already been promisedpromised to Abram and his
descendants, God made provisionfor Lot to go down into the
plain of Jordan and away fromthe land of Canaan.
Now, there are a couple ofreasons here why I think that
Abram would have given Lot thechoice.
For Abram, though, I reallydon't think it mattered.

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Because given that he is thefather of the faith and the
scripture says that he neverwavered at the promises of God,
I think to Abram, it didn'tmatter because he believed that
God would sustain and prosperhim wherever he was or whatever
situation he was.
But for Lot, and from Lot'sperspective, this is a warning
for us.
The land looked great, but thewickedness in it was something

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that Lot could not overcome.
And we have to think about thatas well.
You know, sometimes it may looklike the best thing in the
world.
It may look like, man, this is agreat opportunity, or this is
something that's going to reallybenefit me and my family,
whatever it may be.
But if you do it without prayer,you're going to end up in the
same position that Lot did.
But if you go and you do it withprayer, and the Lord either

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holds you up or says, no, no,no, no, no, go ahead, I've got
you, then you can move on andGod will prosper you there.
But if you don't, and you're notprayerful about it, and you just
choose based upon what youthink, you may end up in the
same situation that Lot does.
And I think that that'ssomething that a lot of
Christians struggle with,particularly carnal Christians

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or younger Christians, isbecause, you know, like, oh,
this is a great opportunity,God's opening the door.
Or it could be that the enemy issetting up a trap, or it also
could be that you're looking atit from your own carnality and
your own iniquity.
It's important that we do allthings, particularly major
decisions in your life, withprayer.
That can go anything fromwhether you need to buy a house

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to move jobs to whatever it maybe, that you need to do it all
with prayer and withunderstanding.
If you do that, then you canavoid going down into Sodom and
having to live in the midst ofall of that depravity the way
that Lot did.
Now, God's going to protect Lot.
In fact, Lot's going to be, evenin the Faith Hall of Fame and

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Hebrews 11.
There's a whole thing thathappened with Lot that we'll
talk about when we get there.
But at some point, though, he'sgoing to move from the pasture
to the city because he's shownin the destruction of Sodom.
So what happened to hisherdsmen?
What happened to his flocks?
What happened to the wealth thathe had that whole time?
What actually happened, wereally don't know a lot about.

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But at the end of the day, whenyou go your own way and you
don't go according to theleading of God, it's going to
cause trouble for you.
And the law As my pastor alwayssays, makes a very important

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key, that God said this afterLot separated.
So after the part where Abramwas supposed to get out of the
country, leave his family, leaveeveryone, once the last piece of
his family is gone, then Godsays this, lift your eyes now
and look from the place whereyou are, northward, southward,
eastward, and westward, for allthe land which you see I give to

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you and your descendantsforever.
And I will make your descendantsas the dust of the earth, so
that if a man This is a very,very important point in Abram's

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life.
And I'm not sure at what pointAbram thought that Lot may be
his inheritance.
You kind of see that.
But God had other There had tobe a separation between Abram
and Lot for God to give Abramthe land.

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Verse 17, God says, kind ofalong the coast, down into the

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south.
You know, he's going to go upthrough, around Jerusalem, the
Jordan Sea, or the River ofJordan, and then back up north.
But at the end of the day, Abramis going to walk this entire
land that has been given him,and it is God's gift to Abram.
He said, I'm going to give youthis land, not that I will give
you this land, I give it to younow.
And this is very similar to theway it works with Jesus Christ,

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right?
Like, Jesus came, and hedescended on this earth, he
lived a sinless life, he died onthe was resurrected on the third
day.
Now it's the Bible says that hesits at the right hand of the
throne, waiting until hisenemies be made his footstool.
You see, God, by doing thatwork, God promised him that he
would inherit all the kingdomsof the earth.
Same thing in Psalm 2, right?

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But at the end of the day, we'restill waiting for the millennial
kingdom to be set up.
But it doesn't change the factthat all the kings of the earth
are now Jesus Christ.
They're all his because of hiswork on this earth.
So now looking at Abram, samekind of thing.
Because he left, because hefinally left his entire family
with Lot going to the other sideand going down to the plains of

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Jordan, now God can say, look, Igive this to you.
This is yours because of thefaith and because of what Abram
did.
Now, this is also in itselfwhere the problem comes in.
At this point, Abram has noheir.
He has no son.
There's no Ishmael and there'sno Isaac.
The gift is his and his alone atthis point.

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However, because of iniquity, aproblem is going to form, and we
see it playing out in our worldtoday between what's going on in
the Middle East.
Abram inherited this land.
It was his inheritance from God.
It was now his.
This is very similar, again, towhat God did for Jesus Christ.
But it doesn't mean the fullnessof it had come yet.
The fullness of it had not come.

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There was going to bedescendants that were going to
argue over this land.
It was going to talk about whoseit belongs to and all of those
things.
But at the end of the day, itwas Abram Like I said, Abram is
the father of many nations.
He's the father of the faith.
He's the father of all of usthat believe.
But the problem is that hedidn't have an heir at this

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point.
And there are going to be peopledescended from Ishmael,
descended from Isaac, anddescended even from the sons
that he's going to have throughKeturah that are going to cause
issues around the inheritance.
And this will continue to be abig deal.
And not only that, are we goingto see it from the Ishmaelites,
but we're going to see it fromthe Edomites as well.
So all of this is going to be anissue, and this is why we have

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such a big land dispute rightnow in the Middle East, because
you have the Muslim nations areclaiming, no, this land was, we
are descendants of Abraham, andhe is our father, and this land
was promised to him, and we getit through the firstborn
Ishmael.
Then you've got the Jews thatsay, no, this land is ours,

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Abraham was our father, we getit through Isaac.
So we're going to talk about allthe things that go into that and
kind of go into some of thosethings.
And frankly, we're even going tolook at some of the pieces from
the Quran, which is the otherside of this.
And I know that many of you arestruggling with that, but the
Quran actually endorses theTorah, which is an interesting

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point here too, because theTorah is the one that lays out
who the children of promise areand where that's going to go.
But we'll get to that when weget there.
But regardless It's Abraham'sland right now, and he's got all
these cattle, all these sheep,all this wealth, and no heir.
And that's where the focus isgoing to shift.

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The focus is going to shift nolonger from the promise of the
land, but to the promise of theheir, which is the real promise
here.
The land is just the place thatGod's going to accomplish what
he ultimately accomplishes, butit's the heir.
It's the lineage that is goingto lead to Jesus Christ that is
the true blessing.
It is in Christ that all thefamilies of the earth will be

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blessed.
It is in Christ that all ofthose things will happen and
that the majority of the promiseto Abram is fulfilled.
It is not in the land.
Now, there's a whole host ofother things that go with that
because you could argue that thepromised land isn't really the
promised land.
To go back and be with Christ isreally the promised land.
But we're going to talk aboutthat too because as Christians,
we look to heaven quite a bit.

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But for us, you know, in allactuality, yes, heaven is great.
Heaven is wonderful.
But we're all looking to comeback with Jesus Christ in the
millennial kingdom.
So if we come back in themillennial kingdom, guess where
we're going to be in themillennial kingdom?
We're going to be right backhere on this earth.
So our goal, our inheritance isstill part of this earth as
well, but that's a differenttime for a different story.

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So Genesis 13 basicallyestablishes that the land is
Abram's, okay?
God has given it to him.
There's really no dispute aboutthat in this world.
Like I've said, the Muslims makethe claim that Abraham is their
And that they inherit throughIshmael.
The Jews make the claim thatAbraham is their father and they
inherit through Isaac.

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We're going to look at why thatis.
But everyone generally agreesthat God gave the land of
modern-day Israel to Abram.
The problem is not there.
The problem is in theinheritance of it.
And we'll get to there as wecontinue this study.
But it's no different.
When someone dies or a patriarchdies of a family or a matriarch,

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whoever the last one is left,then the kids will oftentimes
argue over who gets the house,who gets what, who gets this.
The same conversation is goingon today and has been going on
for 4,000 years at this point.
So the question is going to bethe inheritance, and we're going
to follow it from the child ofpromise all the way down, okay?
But we're going to continue inthe life of Abram next week.

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We're going to go into Genesis14 as the promise and the focus
shifts from the land here to theair.
And that's the thing, is thatthe land has been a So the what
has been established, but thewho has not.
So that's what God is going tohave to do as we look through
the subsequent times of Abram'slife.

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So with that being said, it's aninteresting study.
I hope you're getting somethingout of it because I think that
it's a very, very important one.
And like I said, you know, thisis about walking through a
biblical understanding of whothe Jews are, who they are
today, where their land comesfrom, why they're the children
of promise.
all of those things, andultimately what ends up

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happening with them.
So just pray for them, pray forJerusalem, pray for the peace of
Jerusalem, pray for them as wellthat they may get saved.
And again, if you think this isoff base, I would challenge you
to really go back and read thebook of Zechariah.
The vast majority of propheciesin the book of Zechariah have
not been fulfilled.
There's some in there about hisfirst coming that have been

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fulfilled, but this one, theones of his second coming have
not.
So God Go back and read the bookof Zechariah.
It'll tell you a lot of what isgoing on here today.
So with that being said, untilnext time, just remember the
simple truth.
The Father loves you, Jesusloves you, and the Holy Spirit
loves you.
God bless.
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