You're Not Crazy Here #2

On this episode we talk to Robert Brame who is a Forensic Arborist from California, USA. Robert shares his collection of evidence from wildfires from the last 10 years of Directed Energy Weapons being used against the citizens of the United States and around the whole globe. Yes DEW's are very REAL and extremely dangerous to ALL life on this planet. Tune in to our next episode to find out more about DEW's, their origin and how we fight back.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome into this exciting episode of You'reNot Crazy Here.
I'm your host, Bubba Starts, and with me todayis professional arborist Robert Brame.

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Robert, welcome to the show.
Well, howdy, Dewey.
Good good afternoon.
Yes.
Well, still afternoon in California, which iswhere, you reside.
And you guys have had a lot of fires out therein the last ten, fifteen years, and you've seen
firsthand accounts of a lot of them, and that'swhat we're here to talk about today.

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Why don't you go ahead and give us a little bitof background?
Obviously, you've spent a lot of time in thewoods, but as a professional, why don't you
give some, your credentials and and we'll movealong from there?
Alright.
My credentials, I don't have any.
I love it.
Never stepped inside of a college.
I've had my head in a scientific plant book.
They're like dictionaries for half a century.

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Self taught all those years.
Had horticulture and forestry in high school,but from there I did my own thing.
I examined trees, ferns, shrubs, vines, and allthe wildflowers.
That's the five categories I pick on.
And I've been learning them for an awful longtime.
I'm an old mountain climber, mountain man ifyou will, climbed over 130 mountains,

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botanizing the hallway, carrying this fivepound book with me all over, always learning
plants.
It's just been a nerdy habit of mine.
Became an arborist for twenty years and letthat lapse because I didn't want to do their
Zoom calls during the COVID years.
Many mountain trips for backpacking areasaround the Bay Area, different groups, you

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know.
And I've done trees, a tree service for thirtythree years.
So, I've really got a lot of background and notjust the fauna or the flora, but the fauna
also.
I'm pretty versed in most of the animals, bugs,everything else grows, everything that's alive
in California and some of the other states.

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I'm always backpacking and cooking on campfiresso I know what burns.
Can't trick me on that one.
Everything burns in a tiny campfire.
You're very familiar with, the the areas aftera forest fire, after a typical forest fire.
You're very familiar with how the forest looks,how it breathes, how it acts, and that's why

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we've come together.
I've been introduced to some of your workthrough mutual friends and, was blown away by
the scientific background and just there's veryfew people that are gonna have the experience
with these plant life, as you do and to knowthe natural order of these things.
And, obviously, that's bringing us to, theunnatural order of many of these fires that

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we've been seeing, you know, in California, inMaui, and now we have fires starting in North
Carolina in the middle of the winter.
We're all very interested to know your take onit.
And I know that you have a presentation thatyou've kind of prepared, and you've been
delivering these out in California recently tosome packed rooms because, it's grown beyond a

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a mild interest at this point.
People are losing their homes.
People are losing their livelihoods, and theywant answers.
And they're not getting answers in traditionalmedia.
They're not getting answers from the experts,and we're looking we're looking to you now,
Robert, for answers.
And I don't know if we're looking in the rightplace, but it seems like a much better place to

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start than, well, with the BS that we'regetting fed on the mainstream news.
So if you wanna go ahead and kinda start, yourpresentation, I'd like to open the floor to
you.
Well, I sure, incidentally, those six mediagiants, all they do is lie.
If their mouth is moving, it's lying.
They are not the experts.

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Not at all.
They're just paid to say a certain verse.
All right, you can see that okay?
I can see it great on my screen.
Okay, I'm going swipe it over to there.
I've just prepared this in the last couple ofweeks, this set of photos.
I've plenty of photos, probably over a thousandof anomalies in these forest fire aftermaths.

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Incidentally, I've been to 46 of these fireaftermaths now since 2017 in Santa Rosa, the
Tubbs Fire.
But I've caught up with some of the ones beforethat, all the way back to, well, nineeleven,
and all over the world, not just here inCalifornia.
And I've also taken 126 trips to these 46different aftermaths, and possibly three were

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natural.
Two of them were just cars that caught on fireand burned up the grassland next to it.
One was a natural forest fire as far as I cantell, North of Weed, California by our Mount
Shasta, the volcano.
All the trees were burned up and it looked likethis.
This is more of a standard wood combustion firethat we know of, and what I backpacked through

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for half a century.
When a fire comes through, it burns everything,leaves blackened poles.
There's no needles left generally, no twigs, nobranches, sometimes the poles or trunks are
burned down to a low stump.
And if it's very hot and it's not that windy,they'll burn a hole into the ground where the
trunk was, and you don't want to fall in them.

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Some of them can be very large, and they allburn.
I don't care what species of tree.
If they say it's fire retardant, when afirestorm comes through, this is the way it
looks, No exception.
Well and and, to to show a little, you know,firsthand experience for me, I grew up in
Deadwood, South Dakota.
And back in, what, 02/2002, we had the GrizzlyGulch fire.

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And it was a fire started by down power lines,and it put the entire town of Deadwood in.
So and it burned everything.
It was great.
I mean, we were we had to evacuate.
The whole town evacuated, and this is what theaftermath looked like.
I'm very familiar with this scene particular.
I mean, obviously, this is years later probablyon this scene or at least a year, and you have

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some of the underbrush that is growing backhere.
A very familiar sight to us that have livedthrough a natural forest fire.
Yeah.
At all elevations from sea level to up at leastover 11,000 feet.
Smaller trees up there, of course, but I'veseen it all.
I know what burns.
And then I was designing a hike up in SantaRosa.

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I usually share this one first.
And I was just looking at areas to go and thiscame up on my computer screen.
Instantly, I said, why are all the trees there?
And why are they green?
These homes are gone.
There's no partial houses.
And they're not black.
There's no carbon.
They're white ash.
They're just missing.
Unbelievable.
This is the Coffee Park area.

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So disturbing, man.
It's so disturbing
to look And you would really think that almosteverybody would understand there's something
wrong with this scene.
And many of these are redwoods which are fireretardant.
When a firestorm comes through, burns thosetoo, just like an oak tree.
If it's hot enough, it burns all the leaves.

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So, there's all kinds of species in here, atleast 75 different species I figure in the
Santa Rosa Valley.
And, yeah, a few burn, but overall, theseshould be missing.
All of them.
No exception.
Should be gone.
Just like the houses are.
There's no way that a house on the corner cancan burn to white ash nothing, but its shrubs

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are still on the corner untouched.
Yep.
And I've never seen fires that were in thecity.
That's only in the seven to ten years wherecities are burning down.
Never heard of that.
A forest fire might be in the High Sierra thatcomes across at mid elevations and burns up to
a small community and the firemen get it outand they lose a few cabins maybe, but that's

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about it.
Now, three or four or five or even more firesevery year, and well over a million acres of
land just in California.
And I mean, this year, January just passed us.
Just January alone, they burned down over16,000 homes in the middle of winter, in the

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four fires or three fires in the Los Angelesarea.
In January, that's unprecedented.
A year later, I saw the paradise fire.
Same thing, up here it's conifers.
All these are flammable.
There's some introduced conifers from differentcountries, Blue Atlas Cedars and Deedar cedars

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and stuff like that.
There's a rose of Italian cypress to the leftdown there.
Those perfect rows.
But the number one forestry in California,which is a ponderosa pine, it forgot to burn.
It's the tree that burns more often than anyother species in California.
Number one.
And that is what we have in the Black Hills.
So when ours went up, we had had a couple ofdry summers and a couple of dry winters in a

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row.
It was a tinderbox.
And we had a problem with the, you know, withthe underbrush, and a lot of this stuff hadn't
been cleared out in a long time.
So when it went up, it went fast, and it wenthot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you have all those ladder fuelsunderneath, it gets nasty.

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I start with this one quite often.
Most of these from the ground are my pictureswith a real good camera.
Big Basin State Park is a redwood, old redwoodtrees on the San Francisco Peninsula.
And down on Highway 1 with the ocean behind me,I'm standing there taking a picture of these
blue gum eucalyptus.
And for most of your viewers, they probablyunderstand eucalyptus is a very combustible

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leaf.
The oils in it, you can light on fire veryeasily.
A cigarette lighter in my hand, I can light agreen leaf on fire.
That's the way the blue gum is.
I can't speak for all the different species ofeucalyptus.
There's over 800 species in the world.
But this one's our most common.
Here they are.
They're only 80 to 100 feet tall.
They're young ones.

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And the trunks get black, but the leaves refuseto burn even when they're in the fire.
They're down there in the flames.
The fires went right through them and forgot toburn them.
We're dealing with a different flame rightthere.
It shows you if it was a normal flame, thosetrees have been gone.
It had been a horrible firestorm.
The way they burn, yeah, eucalyptus is one ofthe most flammable leaves you can find.

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And they didn't burn.
They closed that park for us, didn't letanybody in there for two years, and when they
did let you in there, they shrank the parkinglots.
All it lets you on a few trails for safety, andto go there, had to get on the computer and get
an online permit to go out and play.
You can't just show up at the booth, pay theranger cash.
They didn't take cash.

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It has to be a credit card or your ATM card,the numbers on that, you know, through the
Internet.
It's the only way you can go out and play.
They're doing that in all the parks now, one byone.
They're doing it everywhere.
Here's your young ponderosa pines, right in theflames.
This is the Oak Fire in Mariposa City over onthe Western side of Yosemite National Park.

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They put an old gentleman in jail there and areframing him for doing this fire.
I happened to analyze that fire for three tofive days.
I was out there a lot.
Nothing was normal, I mean nothing.
And they're framing this poor old guy andsaying, he did it.
Here it is, fire everywhere, but the needlesrefuse to burn.
I'm sure many of your friends have tried toburn a Christmas tree.

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Don't ever do that.
Once you get them going, those flames come outof the fireplace and up onto your mantle and
you better get the garden hose and run-in thehouse and put it out.
That's what these do.
Sap starts burning at 192 or 93 degrees.
That's just the sap.
So, really volatile stuff when it comes to pinetrees.
We have 22 species of pines in California.

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This is a bay tree, or I'm sorry, it's a coastlive oak tree.
Oak trees are very drought tolerant.
They hold a ton of water inside.
And many of your drought tolerance are likethat.
They close-up their stomata in their leaves,they hold their water and they don't let
anything out, which we call as transpirationrates.
They hold that water in there to survive.
Well, they're filled with water.

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Here, this tree must have been leaning over theroad, and they cut it down and I'm noticing it
burned from the inside out.
The fires came up through the roots and upthrough the trunk into all the limbs, and there
was no opening anywhere.
The fire didn't just go right into the trunk.
And incidentally, this fire is the Kincade Firenorth of Santa Rosa.

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And the closest fire to this tree was half amile away on the mountainside.
These vineyards were all the way around me onevery side.
And of course, media would say the flyingnumbers did it.
All media giants always say the flying numbers.
I have friends that tell me Rob, it's theflying numbers.
No.
Here's the same species, the blue gumeucalyptus.

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This was about 130 feet tall, seven foot indiameter when it fell over.
Was standing next to it.
I couldn't believe it.
This is cattle country.
The cattle are late in September, October.
They've eaten the dead grass down to an inch ortwo.
The hay truck has to show up to feed the poorcreatures.
There's nothing to eat.
So, your combustible materials are almost zero.

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Yet, this gargantuan tree burned from theinside fell over about 130 feet tall, a good
sized one.
And why is it hollow?
I don't see cavities in eucalyptus trees.
I've cut them down for thirty three years.
Rare for me to find any hole that goes insidethe tree.
They compartmentalize their wounds very well.
Not like a maple, madrone or some otherspecies.

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Maples hate to be cut, they hollow out rightaway.
This didn't have a cavity, no way.
This little T post to the right a little bit,there's one of those right behind the stump
where it was probably touching the stump ortrunk.
That's what got hot.
That T post is hammered in the ground.
I don't know how hot it got to do this type ofdamage.

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But the whole thing fell over and there'snothing on the ground but an inch or two of
dead grass.
There's no way it could do this.
A little flame like that, you could just walkover.
Because we've done it.
We've had burns in these farms around herewhere they burn off thistles and little weeds
they don't like.
They set the fire and they just walk around itand it doesn't do this kind of damage.

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The third time I came up this road and I'mstanding on the road.
The third time I came up, the whole tree wasgone.
The trunk was completely taken out.
Why would they do that?
Why would they care?
This is in the middle of nowhere.
It's not next to a town.
They got rid of the evidence.
This tree I talk about quite often.
In the Western United States, I believe this isthe largest water holding capacity tree there

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is, a Fremont cottonwood, king of the Willowfamily.
All the cottonwoods, which is populace genus,has a black cottonwood, the white cottonwoods,
the Lombardy poplars, and the aspen at highaltitudes, which we have in the Rocky Mountains
also.
That's actually a populace tree.
So, a tunnel water, this one's about four feetin diameter, there were two of them.

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They were in a spring in October.
The water is copious.
It's still coming out of the hill.
It didn't dry up.
This was a healthy Fremont cottonwood.
Yet, it burned from the inside out, split inall these different directions, and not one
leaf burn.
The thinnest part of the tree.
The things that burn the first in a fire is theleaf or the needle.
They forgot to burn.

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Yeah.
Believe the yeah.
That's exactly.
It's it's crazy that anybody buys it when, Imean, I grew up in the woods.
We we lived in the middle of the woods and madea campfire every single night for three months
while we built our house, and then that's howwe heated our house for I still to this day.
Right?
So it's just crazy to me to look at the massivedestruction to the trunk to the inside of the

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trunk of this tree with no visible damage tothe outside of it, whatever.
I've never seen anything like that in my life.
No fire does that.
That's right.
Even if you started a fire on the inside ofthat tree, say, you know what I mean?
You hollowed it out or whatever or dug into itand you started off.
It wouldn't do this.
That's right.
This has so much water.

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Once in a while, we'll have to remove some, alot smaller.
I cut them, water will geyser out of the stumpa half inch to an inch high, it's just
geysering.
The root pressure is bringing this water up, ithas a high transpiration rate.
It sucks the water up from the springs, lakes,rivers, whatever, all the way up to the leaves
and gets evaporated out, or it's calledtranspiration rate, but it goes right up and

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out of the system, not like a thick leatheryleaf tree.
You can never burn this, pour gas on it, stackfirewood around it.
It's not gonna do this.
Period.
Never.
These guys can run at four to six feet indiameter.
There's a giant one in Nevada, Carson City.
It's probably 15 feet through.
I live close to the Missouri River now, Robert,we got some massive cottonwoods.

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So Right.
Exactly what you're talking about.
And they gotta have their roots in that water.
Amazing.
There was two of them here.
I just highlighted that.
I had to talk about heartwood versus sapwood.
Sapwood is live tissue with sap.
Whether it's really watery like a maple or likea pine, very thick, coagulated, sappy, sticky

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stuff.
But here's let's see what do we got here?
These are the two tallest trees on the planet.
Coastal redwoods, king of the redwoods, andDouglas fir, king of the pine family.
The Douglas firs in the pine family is thesecond tallest tree in the world.
These are toddlers when it comes to these twospecies.
The Douglas fir, big ones can be eight feetacross, and the redwoods, you know, 15 to

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probably 18 feet across.
Why do they have 50 to 90% heartwood in themiddle?
That's dead non conductive tissue.
It's dead, it's cracked, there's no sap.
The sapwood or live tissue is around theperimeter near the edge of the bark.
That's what's keeping it alive.
When I cut these trees down, they have zeroheartwood, where it's darker or even lighter on

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some of these, or maybe a dot in the middlethat's dead.
That's normal.
This is all 50 to 80% hardwood.
How did that happen?
And they're not all black on the outside.
They've been cooked on the inside like being ina microwave.
And that gets, you know, we'll talk about thatlater.

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But these have been to me cooked from theinside out.
I don't know what rate if it's fast or slow,and they're already cracking.
These were cut down, I'm sure within a month,stacked up to go to the lumber mill.
Unbelievable to see that amount of heartwood onthese toddlers.
I've cut down five, six foot diameter redwoods,zero heartwood in the middle.

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So why is it like this?
Every tree.
This one are oak trees.
These have the ton of water in them, not likethe sappy pines and redwoods and such.
So some of these were starting to combust.
Notice the ends.
Huge amount of hardwood, but they're turningblack.
They're burning internally in four or five ofthese shots.

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Unbelievable what's happening.
The water conveys the electrical current andcombust where it is, which is in the middle of
the tree.
This is happening everywhere.
Anytime I see a log pile, I've got to get inand take a look at it.
When your tires come up, and I want theirscientists to prove me wrong on any of this
stuff I talk about, I'm waiting for them.
This is your rubber tires, perhaps one out of200, even 300 tires, say polyester cord.

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And I believe they have one tiny metal wirearound the edge to keep it on the rim, so it
doesn't fall off your rim.
One little cord, I believe, steel cord.
This is the way I find 99% of them.
The rubber is gone and all your steel belts arethere.
It's one or the other.
Steel belts come out just like this orpolyester cord.

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There's nothing in there.
And they're untouched.
They're in the same location as all the othertires that are just turned into steel belts,
little slinky like steel belts.
I'll pick the thing up to see if somebody justrolled it there to play devil's advocate.
Nope, there's a ring in the soil, it's beensitting for years.
Why is that not burned up?
Get your super scientist to tell me that one.

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It's the metal that's on fire.
It's pretty much put the tire in a giganticmicrowave and watch what happens.
That's the way I find them.
There's never a partial ever.
And I've seen, oh my God, 600 to 800 cars atleast.
And some of these people are hoarders of carparts, and they have piles of tires.

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And then there's just one that's untouched.
Really?
There's the highest peak in California to theright of center, Mount Whitney.
All those are 14,000 feet down there.
All right, I want to get some of thosematerials out of the way.
This is Los Angeles, the Palisades Fire.
In all the pictures, you'll notice trees.

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And I don't care what species they really are.
I'd like to pick on eucalyptus and pine family,but it really doesn't matter.
When you have a horrific firestorm that'smoving super fast and does this kind of damage
to a house, the trees would be stumps orblackened poles.
Amazing.
And I'll get to the aluminum here.
I might as well talk about it now.

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Whenever I find aluminum or alloy rim, themelting points are 1,221 degrees.
That's to start with.
To get it really flowing and go across thestreet, perhaps it goes up two or three or more
100 degrees, especially when it's 20 feet fromthe vehicle and out in the middle of the
street, there's nothing to keep it hot.
Still running.
Why is it still running?
It should be cooling off in a second.

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Nope.
Well, yeah.
Robert, of my background, I was a welder.
Right?
And this is what and I welded aluminum for twoyears.
I know how it behaves, and people were well,this is how how to fire burns, and this is and
I was just like, you don't know anything aboutmetallurgy, though.
Don't know anything about metallurgy.
There's no way.
Like, you know how much intense electricity ishow I was welding.

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Right?
A wire feeding welder and watching this metalmove.
It was really seeing the aluminum melted thatwent, what the what is going on?
Yeah.
I've got three metal workers that build allkinds of high-tech parts and they confirm temps
with me, they tell me all this stuff.
Amazing, not the alloys or aluminum.

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Sometimes the aluminum rim will chunk out inthese pieces and that could be different
mixtures.
I don't know, I'm not a metal expert, not atall.
Same area, don't know the area well down there,I'm just grabbing all the clearest pictures I
can off the internet, But here you go.
Grass everywhere, very short.

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Where'd you get the giant flames to take thishouse out?
Still grass on the back left behind the chimneythere.
Like, there's still grass.
These look like valley oaks or giant coast liveoaks.
Hard to tell.
They didn't contribute to this.
It was the metals in the house.
Screws, bolts, nails, pipes, every kind offastener and rebar, everything else, that's

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what's on fire.
That was somebody's home, Robert.
That was someone's home.
Yeah.
It's devastating.
I don't know.
I don't I know.
It's heartbreaking to to have to look at all ofthese images and then to be fed lies about its
origin is just it's
Yeah.

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Yeah.
And lately on the in on the TV, I see YouTubecuts from the TV stations, and our experts are
telling you what it is, and they bring peopleon and try to explain it away and mock us.
They're mocking me?
Are you kidding me?
Bring them to me.
That's what I my newest term, bring them to me.
When they talk about the fires getting underthe eaves, no.

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When you look from the air on any of thesefires, you'll notice the house is, the roof is
on fire first, dead center, up in the middle ofthe roof.
It's not under the eaves.
I hope the fireman can start waking up to this.
Got several shots of this.
Those pines are I've never seen one, but I knowwhat they are.
It's an what is it called?

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Aleppo pine?
It's from the South Coast Of California, rightnext to the coast.
Aleppo, that's not right.
Torrey pine.
Giant thing, very open, long needles androunded habit like this.
They've refused to burn and we had horrible carfires under them.
Really?

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Same place, different angles.
Some of these aren't so clear.
I see all those Teslas over there or a coupleof them.
We don't even know what these cars were, butlook at the aluminum.
What did the fire jump from car to car?
I say the beam came down the street and zappedthem where they were, and my brother thinks
there was people in those cars.

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I do no doubt.
No doubt.
People It
hit you so fast.
Vacarized.
Pull over.
That's right.
Vacarized.
This is crazy.
It's it's just so unnatural.
Like, how did the fire burn not any of treesalong the sidewalk, but torched all of those
cars in succession and, like
And look at them.

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A a forest fire wouldn't
do that.
Like it started from the front and went back,and the people in the back there saw what was
happening and tried to get out of the way.
Does it not appear that way to you?
I know these three here, they were almost intheir lane like they didn't even have a chance
to pull over.
Some in the back, they turned in a little bit,it looks like, but I don't think they all made
it out.

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Very sad.
Same with paradise on Pence Road.
Car after car were exploding on fire, and thefire was a half mile behind them.
Each car down the road in a traffic jam wasjust catching a fire.
And the people saw it and they got out and ranand their car got it next.
They were very lucky.
The same area over there under the pine, aren'tthere giant flames?

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Yes, but it's the wrong flame.
As hot as they are, they don't recognize theorganic matter.
Same with your plastics.
If you don't get in there quick enough becausethey like to keep you out and steal all the
evidence and you can't have plastic binsrolling around, that's evidence.
So they have to get those out on truckloads.
That's why I'd like everybody to watch.

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The trucks have to leave the site, where dothey take them?
I to know all about that.
What dump it's going to it?
I tell you, plastics everywhere.
There is one from the air.
Some of these are eucalyptus in the foregroundto the right.
I can always tell a eucalyptus.
Pines everywhere in the background.
I mean, look at this.

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Unless the tree's very close to a house
All you can see is trees, Robert.
This is a forest fire, but none of the treesbroke down.
In the last few years, they've taken the wordforest out of forest fires and they're called
them wildfires.
And to find a natural looking forest fireaftermath on the computer is very hard.

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They've scrubbed them off the Internet.
Yeah, as far as you can see, trees, trees,trees, unless they're close to a house or they
hold a ton of water, liquidy water.
Those are the first to burn.
Your conifers, which should burn first, areburning dead last and from the inside out.
Your willows, cottonwoods, alder, birch,maples, even the yolks, they're burning first

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from the inside out.
They're all hollow.
Here's a hilltop and the palm trees.
Everybody says, what about the palms?
They're not burning the dead hardwood all theway up that should burn.
Instead, they're burning the base of the frontor leaf, where the most water is stored is in
the base of the leaf up top.
And you'll notice when you see them live ones,they're all on fire way up there.

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Forty, sixty, 70 feet up.
Like, how'd the fire get up there?
It's the water.
Burn the trunk.
Right?
And the trunk's dead hardwood.
I climb these all the time with my spurs on.
Like, it's hard, dry, dead wood and it didn'tlap up against them.
Let me show you something.
This one's horrific.
Saw that on the Internet.

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Wow.
Looks like World War three.
Just terrible.
Trees Even if you if someone was dropping bombson it, the bombs wouldn't be smart enough to
avoid the trees.
You're right.
It's You're right.
It's just incredible how you could look at thisand not have questions.
They wouldn't show you these pictures on theTV, and nobody would explain it correctly

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anyway.
So anything close to the house, especially withwater in it, liquidy, those will burn up, but
not in a normal way.
Everything that should burn doesn't, andeverything that is burning shouldn't.
Making up my own little sayings.
Look at these, and I don't know what thesedoors were made out of, but it was a thinner

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metal, they're gone too.
Windows melting out approximately 2,500degrees.
Forest fire tops out at fourteen twenty seven,doesn't approach that temperature, and nobody
stacked firewood on it, there's no wood orbrush or anything.
How did that do it?
The seats couldn't do it, the hoses, belts,seats, tires, uh-uh.
It wouldn't get hot enough to do that damage.

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Yet, every vehicle I've seen in seven years, nowindows were intact.
Every window in every firearm aftermath wasmelted out.
Everyone.
This one came out on TV and one of the mediagiant said, it was the expert, she said, Oh,
these are the trees that save the house.

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Uh-huh, the trees save the house.
I wanted to slap her, but I couldn't reachinside the TV.
This is the tallest cedar tree on the planet.
True cedars are in the pine family and there'sonly four.
This is the big one from the Himalayas, Deodarcedar.
These are all quite large Deodars.
Pine family, they're flammable.
They didn't burn that day.

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And I got a feeling to the left, all the homesare gone.
Look at this car.
Same old thing, but that's what they said.
The trees saved the house.
Here's a rim that chunked out and then melted.
I'll see a lot of that too.
And the fire hydrant, that's one of theprofessionals picture, either the water is on
fire or the metal itself.

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I almost think it's the water dripping out ofit.
And I come to a conclusion just a couple ofdays ago, why would the water be on fire?
A percentage of it is hydrogen.
Water when you take it apart, I don't know whatthe properties are, but part of that is
hydrogen.
The guy who wanted to build the electric carand run on water, pour the water in, it would

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separate the molecules and run on the hydrogen.
I think this was on fire.
I don't know, it's not my area, but why is thatfire hydrant on fire?
Yeah, how about that one?
There's the whole area just gone.
Nice flat area to build the Olympics.
I hear the Olympics are coming.
Trees up and down every street, and in theperimeter it's grassland looks like.

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Sub shrubs maybe.
Yeah.
This is another angle, that same old big oak, alittle bit of a different angle.
Look at all the trees, a light shade of green.
The leaves have been put in a gargantuanmicrowave and sucked the water.
Off.
Like, when it gets so hot, it saps all thewater out of these trees.
Right?
And, like, there's going to be evidence of afire, and these trees look fine.

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That's right.
They're like shade of green.
I'll find that quite often.
And here in my city, had a some kids wereplaying with matches and it burned up a grass
that was four feet deep, like October four orfive years ago.
And my clients were up there, I ran up there inthe fire department, put it out like it was
nothing.
They were yawning, they came out of theirhoses, but all the oak trees were 20 feet high.

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And these are evergreen oaks, coast live oak,the number one species in our state.
They were brown, 20 feet up from a naturalflame.
Brown, just from a grass fire.
Not here.
This is horrific.
They didn't even turn brown?
Yeah.
And this one in the back, I kept this for thestone pine, Italian from Italy.
The Italian stone pine is a big broad pinethat's wider in canopy than it is in height in

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general.
It didn't want to burn up.
It's got some black on the trunk.
The house is toasted, only the rock, cementwalls or whatever they are, stone walls are
intact.
I mean, I'm still looking for the burnedvegetation.
The foreground on the right is probably a mapleor something that holds a lot of water.
House is completely gone, but there's a shrubright there on the left that looks fine.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Everything around it is burned to a crisp, butthe shrub is like it just doesn't Yeah.
Doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense for anyone who's everbeen around a fire.
It's like, make it make sense.
I just can't.
You're right.
I've had thousands of campfires, and I don'tcare what the leaf is that I put in there.

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Green.
The thickest I don't care what it is.
The thickest leaf put in there, in one minutethat leaf is gone in a tiny campfire.
These are higher horrific firestorms, andthey're forgetting to burn the organics.
This one's all I see is green.
I see green everywhere.
What the Amazing.
There's a new technology is upon us.

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Just to
make And that's, I think, a good a good pointhere to transition to talking about what is
causing these, Robert.
I I know that you are very educated in thetechnologies that are capable of doing these
things, and I and I wish in the last, you know,25 or so that we have left here for you to

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share with our listeners
Sure.
What is the true cause of this.
Right?
I think we've seen enough to know that this isnot natural.
Something, man made, a technology is doingthis.
It's obviously, electrical in nature.
It seems to be conductive through water,through metal, but not wood.

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That's right.
Unless it's brand new wood from the lumberyard, still has sap in it.
That's a possibility also, but not often.
Well, what I've heard it from all the differentpeople that have contacted me, we've got a lot
of categories, electromagnetic technology, MAZRwith an M, laser, the five gs towers even,

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scalar waves, and the last guy that got a holdof me, I can't remember his name, builds robots
and does all this satellite stuff.
He says it's actually called near infrared.
So which one is it?
Or is it a little component of each one?
I don't know, not my area.
All I know is all of this is in the microwavearena because of the materials, what it's doing

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to everything in front of me, the organics,everything.
So it's somewhere in that area.
The near infrared, I looked on the internet andit's lasers that you can't see.
And that would fit right in.
You know, because people have pictures of theselasers coming from the sky and everywhere.
How many of those are fake?
I don't know.
How many are real?

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But, those are all the categories I wrote down.
I can't really tell you which one's which.
The electromagnetic, a friend Shane on mycomputer, Facebook, he says, when a car gets
toasted from these, within one day they're allrusted.
It's a premature resting thing, something to dowith electromagnetic technology.

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I can't explain it any better.
Yeah, a lot of people are talking aboutdifferent types of technology, and perhaps it's
a combination of all.
And there's also the smart meters.
They want to say it's all smart meters.
Well, meters doesn't They're not on cars,they're not in trees, they're not in a little

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metal shed behind the house.
Yes, every house has a smart meter or most ofthem, and I've heard of plenty not burning when
they took the smart meter off.
So those possibilities are there.
I just can't say for sure.
It could be just a targeting mechanism.
Right.
Not not to say that it doesn't have some playin the grand scope of things.

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It it is just not causing this kind ofdestruction.
I mean, this is Right.
Insane.
Insane.
And not a tree burned in the photo.
And our rich green hair, like, really?
Really?
It's just and it's wherever I go.
These flames are coming from above.
There's nothing burned around this high.
It started from the inside of the house.

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I I know.
People are lighting their houses on fire asthey're walking out and getting evacuated.
Yeah.
Got under the eaves again, but didn't burn thegrassland.
It goes almost all the way around the wholeplace.
The grass didn't burn?
That would burn pretty good with the ember ifit landed right and we had wind.
No.
Just just the house.
That's one of their that's channel five, itlooks like, not mine.

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Nothing down there is mine.
LA, I have not traveled down there at all.
There's plenty on the Internet wherever you go,you know.
Usually, when I find a vehicle, it's completelybeen consumed.
It's rare I find a half half vehicle that'sbeen burned, but if I do, sometimes it's very
abrupt like that day in New York twenty fouryears ago.

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Half the car burns right to a door, right tothe edge of a door and doesn't overlap to the
back door.
Some of those I've seen and I should have thepictures.
How does a fire stop exactly and not overlap,make black on the back door, a perfect line?
And actually, I'm gonna have to dig throughthat in the next couple of weeks and see if I
can find one.

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If you don't like the word smart, don't buysmart water, don't buy this little car, smart
car.
I don't like the word smart at all nowadays.
Smart meters, smart refrigerators, Another one.
Robert, I've been dumb my whole life.
I think I'm gonna stay dumb for the rest of it.
I tell you.

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It's just
Well and and we're we're pretty isolated.
So I've grown up most of my life in SouthDakota.
Right?
Uh-huh.
Very rural, very in the middle of the woods,and that's why it's so shocking to me because
I've I've lived through forest fires, and thenyou're just so many questions.
When there's when there's more questions thanthere are answers and the answers that you

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receive are total bullshit Yeah.
Then you have to go looking for your own.
And I I commend you for compiling all of thesephotos and all of this information for us.
It's just incredible.
Yeah.
And you've you've lived it, so it's it'sblatant when you've lived it.
That's all I've ever done.

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In my my roaring twenties, I would climbmountains and had bonfires, and I've burned
everything.
That's what I that's what I've done.
I wanted to speak about this, which is going onprobably everywhere.
In California, I've noted seven or nine peopleput in jail as supposed arsonist when it's
impossible that they could have done it.
This was a a poor person that lived out there,a homeless person on the bridge here, and they

(39:39):
pinned it on him, he's actually in prison.
They went to a jury, the whole courts, 12people on the jury convicted him.
That's what I happened to analyze two or threetimes by myself before they even say they
caught him.
Anomalies everywhere.
And it breaks my heart that they're puttinginnocent people in jail.
This is from that aftermath.

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The bridge is right below.
These are California Bay trees in the middle.
California Bay is in the Laurel family, Laurelfamilies, avocados, camphor trees, but this one
happens to be very flammable.
Oils like eucalyptus, you can light these onfire, again, small fire, even a cigarette
lighter.
Once you get it going, you better run.
A bay tree will burn all the way up the wholething, gone.

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It's right behind these houses.
There was bays everywhere here.
Down the hill was a trampoline, no holes in it,a synthetic.
And here's that house with the sheet metal,where it rests pretty quick, no dew in the air,
within a day it rusts, some electromagnetictechnology that Shane tells me about.
There was a parking block up there for one ofthe mansions that burned down, homemade, on the

(40:43):
ground, thirty, forty feet long, just likethis, two by six or two by eight, and instead
hammered in the ground.
The only place that whole thing burned is wherethe bolts are.
These are all different.
I had more, but I just wanted to put two in.
That's the only place it burned.
The bolts were on fire.
Your stainless steel bolts are not burning.

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And I heard that something to do with theircoating.
Because I'll see them on swing sets and theplastic seats, slides, all that won't burn.
And I'm noticing their stainless steel bolts.
And somebody told me why, it's something to dowith electromagnetic covering.
Utah.
Beautiful.
This lady, I've talked to her lawyer.
He's a federal lawyer out of Modesto orManteca, one of the M Streets from Merced.

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He's up there and he's the defender, publicdefender.
And I talked to him and I told him about what Ido and everything he needed.
He wasn't even interested.
They're running her through the coals.
This was the fawn fire at Redding, California,just out of town.
I happened to go up there before they put herin jail, and I found the most damning evidence.
Eucalyptus happened to grow up there.
They didn't burn.

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Nope.
And got more eucalyptus.
The trunks turned back in black, and that's thefluids inside.
The Cambium fluids are right underneath thebark.
The most active fluids, that's what's on fire,the trunks, because the liquid, but not the
leaves.
A two story house just disappeared, no treesburned.

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Gray pine on the left, that's our lowland pine.
Deedar cedar next to it.
The long needles is your ponderosas.
That's a massive house.
If that whole thing is on fire, I mean, you'retalking about the heat.
Like, things are spontaneously combustingaround it at that heat.
Like, it doesn't the flame doesn't have totouch it to light it on fire when you're

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talking about fourteen, sixteen hundred degreesin the center of that fire.
For none of those trees to be more than just alittle crispy is crazy.
I mean, no fire forest fire here, and those areconifers.
Those are the number one thing that burns in aforest is the pine family.

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That's gonna be on the cover of my book.
And this lady is in jail.
The whole fence line looks like this.
Why were the nails on fire?
And they have all their experts with CAL FIREand the sheriffs and my god, the whole fence
line.
See, that's a different one.
Why are the nails on fire?
Of course, they can't explain it away.
They don't have a chance.
This old Edward Wakerman, the Oak Fire Mariposaby Yosemite.

(43:19):
All the police called him down this road to goto town and meet him for something.
They stopped him.
They had, I don't know how many cop cars,sheriff cars, all with their guns out.
And this crippled old guy can hardly walk.
He's diabetic.
73 years old, he's got issues.
And they put 16 felonies against him.
And they have zero evidence.
I have all the evidence.

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They have zero.
Unbelievable.
And I went to the courthouse.
That courthouse I went to, this is the sameaftermath.
And he was there the first time up and I toldhis lawyer I was going to be there, watch my
videos and learn what's really going on.
He saw me in that courtroom.
I tell this story all the time.
He looked at me, he walked over to theprosecutor, and they're both whispering,

(44:01):
talking to me, then they have the judge comedown.
A very old courtroom, the oldest one inCalifornia, all wooden thing from the 1800s.
The three of them are looking at me andwhispering.
Then the judge goes back to his podium, cancelsthe court case, because I was in that room.
And no no reason.
No postponement.
Just we're just gonna cancel it.

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What?
Yeah.
They and that's right there is when I found outthese are kangaroo courts.
I heard the term forever.
Now I know what they are.
They're kangaroo courts.
This guy's done nothing.
This is the same aftermath.
No trees burned.
The needles fell off after the fact.
They're everywhere.
Look at your tire.
Slinky like things.

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Some of my best stuff came from up there.
This is what your mobile homes look like.
Even the steel what are those called?
The steel supports underneath.
Why are they all bent it up?
That so the metal got pretty hot also to swaythose main beams.
Those are big beams.
Yeah, it's an amazing thing when you see allthis.

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The nails, bolts, screws, fasteners, hinges,that's what's on fire.
Anything in close proximity burns.
The wood won't burn by itself.
This was a B and B.
I kept calling up there and I found out fromsomebody up there, Oh, the place burned to the
ground.
Their sign was still there.
They didn't take that away.
There's the bolt.
I didn't know fire likes to be attracted tobolts.

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This piece of wood I have at home, the toppiece to a homemade fence, a two by four, eight
feet long.
It burned at every nail.
What the there's your damning evidence rightthere.
Right.
Yeah.
Wild nails.
Exactly.
A a fire a fire has no conscience.
Right?
And that's what we know about being around themand doing this.

(45:49):
Electricity burns that way.
Being a welder, I see that kind of stuff allthe time.
I've shocked myself in the ass because I'mwelding, and I had a hole in my pants.
And then the electricity jumped right throughto my bare skin.
Right?
Oh my god.
I I've experienced this feeling of thosethings.
So we're definitely dealing with withsomething, the electromagnetic for sure.

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And for those of you following along, these arethe direct energy weapons that we're talking
about.
These are the things that are out there now,like Robert said, the the specific technology
used in each situation could be completelydifferent.
Who knows what they're experimenting with outhere?
Oh, oh, and every year, there's anotherscientist born to work for these evil people.

(46:35):
This is the next guy, the Park Fire up out ofChico this year, this last year.
Burned off a lot of acreage, many homes, andthey got this guy who has a bad track record
already.
They said, Oh, they had a crisis actor on TV.
She was crying and said, He lit his car on fireand pushed it down the hill.
That's the car.
Why are the windows melted out?

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Yeah, nope, she was a crisis actor.
That's supposedly the car.
And here you go, coniferous zone or upperfoothills starting to get into the pines.
Digger pines, Ponderosa pines.
This is a hot area.
These are average 100 degree days in thesummertime in these areas.
Great.

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A fire that forgot to burn up these trees?
Oh my gosh.
And here's the car.
Looking at the vehicles, where's the fire tostart the vehicle on fire in the first place
unless it was already burning?
And then why was there no explosion?
If there's all this fire and you have gasolinein these vehicles, like, why there the none of

(47:37):
them have exploded?
None of them have like, there's so much there'sso many questions, Robert.
There's You're right.
There's there's no dead grass around this atall.
Nothing.
And part of me thinks they still might havetheir gasoline.
I don't know.
Next time I go to one, I'm gonna shake the carand listen and see if I hear the gas going back
and forth.

(47:57):
We've all done that.
Like, if there's gas in it, like, And it didn'tblow up.
People wanna say, oh, the gas did this.
No.
Well and it's not like
we have metal gas tanks anymore.
Most gas tanks are plastic.
Wow.
Really?
Okay.
I would I would so.
I mean, I I know the one on my Suburbans from oone, and it's plastic.

(48:18):
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
So same thing.
Same area.
Same park fire, they called it.
The jeep.
Oh my gosh.
This is a ponderosa pine forest with, lookslike black oaks are starting.
So we're moving up in altitude.
Probably 3,000 feet.
Yeah.
It burned the pine needles off the ground butwhat happened to the jeep?
So, pine needles.
Aluminum and to run it off like that.

(48:38):
Right?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Flat to the ground?
Uh-uh.
And I think that was a trailer over there.
And the propane tanks are not blown up.
People are seeing that.
I've not seen one ripped open.
They put x's on them and they set them aside.
I don't think any of the fuel came out of them.
So that's why I wonder about the vehicles intheir gas tanks, especially if it's a plastic

(48:58):
gas tank.
Yeah, look at this.
On the left is a sycamore.
We have one native sycamore in California.
California sycamore holds a ton of water.
I'd love to be there to analyze that tree.
That's the only one I want to look at.
See if there's a cavity at the bottom, which Ibet there is.
And it probably is not supposed to grow there,there's a creek to the left.
It's an extreme water lover.

(49:21):
Oh, secrets.
I have secrets.
I'm just blown away by the I I love that yousneak a few good pictures in there for me to be
like, ugh.
You can breathe.
You have to.
Like, the world is not all, you know, burningup around us even though it is.
That's right.
We took a trip a month ago to the deserts, wentaround the South Side Of The Sierra and went

(49:42):
over to Death Valley areas.
And I found out there's three fires.
So on the way coming back and out there, Ianalyzed them.
Another gray pine or digger pine, our foothillpine, two thirty two homes turned to white ash.
I saw most of them and they weren't keepinganybody out.
Anomalies everywhere.
My gosh, and the public doesn't know it.
And they said, oh, it's a drunk driver with thecar, flew off the road, caught on fire.

(50:06):
Well, maybe he did, but he didn't burn thesehomes down, and this pine didn't wanna burn.
Anomalies everywhere.
The windshields again, my picture.
Really?
In a city by itself, out by the road, there'snothing around it.
Well, and also it's not like the like, okay.
So it got so hot that you had some kind of,like, in the glass explodes.

(50:27):
Right?
It gets so hot that it there's no remnants ofglass.
It's just gone.
It's just yeah.
It doesn't shatter, break, or fall out.
It melts molds down to the metals, sometimesworse.
Unbelievable.
And, of course, I found the bolts.
Can't hide this stuff.
And there was a squirrel there.
Was surprised he was alive, a ground squirrel.

(50:48):
So he must have gone down deep.
And this is another Fremont cottonwood, I cantell by the bark.
Even though the cables were there, and I'm surethat had some play to it, but it burned from
the inside out where the liquids would be.
And there was a creek right next to me.
Oh, I tell you.
Next to Lone Pine where Mount Whitney is.
There's my truck over there.

(51:09):
Okay.
Mount Whitney, there was a little fire theycalled the Quality Fire because the Quality Inn
was half a mile off the road.
I stopped, got out, 55 acres burned, no homes.
These were willows, all burned from the insideout and up the branches because they held, they
hold so much water.
But the thing that got me is that fence lineover there by my truck.

(51:29):
It's attached, they're all burning.
It's attached on one whole side with metal, butthe thing was burning at three feet high.
Every post, you'll notice every post isdifferent.
There's the metal things.
The attachment points is where all the burningis.
There's all your 14,000 footers right aboveyou.
Mount Whitney Dead Center, looks small.

(51:52):
Three feet up, again and again, I don't have ananswer for that.
Why three feet?
On the backside, they're attached all the wayup and down which was burned here and there but
at three feet, I don't get it.
Nails in each one of them.
Some damning evidence.
So, know that wasn't natural either.
It's not hard to figure out.

(52:12):
He's overweight.
There's a third fire next to Lone Pine itself.
A lady had her house in these little cabins youcould rent out, and she grows and sells
lavender plants.
It likes the granitic soil and the goodmoisture.
She lost everything except one house, and Icontacted her.
She didn't trust me, didn't know who I was, andI told her I tried to tell her what it was, and

(52:34):
I said, you know what, I'm just going to try toget you money to rebuild your place.
That's the least I can do because I I don'tlike this injustice.
She was heartbroken.
The guardrails, I didn't get it much intothose, but they burn where the bolts are, the
guardrails.
It's just so consistent.
Everything that you've showed us has beenconsistent.
It burns along the water.

(52:55):
It burns along your conductors.
It's not burning like a natural fire.
This is an electrical current of some sort thatis that is burning these things up.
I I I don't need to see any more evidence to beconvinced, and I hope that anyone watching this
finally can feel the same.

(53:17):
The the Yeah.
The evidence is overwhelming.
Oh, I What about Kyle's
is it?
Unnatural.
I put this on here if anybody wants to helpsupport her, take a picture of it or whatever.
But you're right.
The creeks sometimes the the electrical currentwill go down the creek system and the mud up on
the sides and go down the creek for a halfmile, not come up the bank and keep burning the

(53:39):
hillsides.
Stays in the riparian corridor, follows thecreek, and I went to one after I met John Lord,
the fire captain up north, I stayed with him, Iwanted to backpacks up this creek, and I
brought my fishing pole.
Was using big fish in deep pools.
There was no fish, no frogs, no turtles, noaquatic insects, no tadpoles, nothing.

(54:02):
Everything in the water was dead.
Dead.
And this was already three years past becausethe plant life was three feet high already.
The new brush that grew up and I thought threeyears, I'm gonna start carrying my butterfly
net and start searching for any type of insectbecause there's a lot of I know my aquatic
insects too.
But, there was nothing alive.
It was a sterilized creek.

(54:22):
I'm glad I didn't drink any of the water.
Who knows?
But it sterilized the creek, which was reallyodd to me.
Just
tragic and terrifying and Just
the things that go through your head when yousee this stuff.
A trailer park in the in our giant delta.
Sacramento San Joaquin Rivers come down.

(54:44):
There's an island here with 19 mobile homesthat burned up.
The metal coach is gone.
The only wood on the property is the steps andthe landing.
They didn't they didn't burn.
Old looking wood.
Look at it.
And this is the other one.
That's the door frame.
Open the door and go in your mobile home.
Why is the wood looking like that?
On that side of the coach, it's not even black.

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I I the exact it's not even burned.
That's that's what's it that doesn't happen.
And all
the other materials.
There's other materials here is like, andpeople wanna tell me, well, the wind was going
the other way.
I just I I lost all my friends mostly becausethey're stupid.
Yeah.
Well
It's just some that's most damning photo Ithink I have ever took.

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Right.
I was gonna say you don't need to go past theselast two have been the the most clear cut.
Like, obviously, not of not even a can you evencall it a fire?
Like, are there flames to this as it'shappening?
Right?
Like, we see embers in different things and,but as these are melting down and and I've seen

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flames off of, you know, my welder as I'm asI'm welding.
Right?
Now it's a flame, but not in the natural of it.
So I have a lot of experience working veryclosely Oh.
With electromagnetic things like this.
It just Oh.
It's just black and white.
It's that it's that is there's your there'syour guardrails.

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That's what it is.
Exactly why why I had to have you on ourprogram.
I've been following you, you know, on Facebook,like I said, through some mutual friends, but I
I could tell with the pictures you weresharing, with the knowledge that you had that
you had the key to unlock the door in some ofthese people's brains to finally show them real
evidence without any other kind of rhetoric.

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Right?
We talked for thirty five minutes before weever brought up anyone anything that you could
consider a conspiracy theory.
Right?
This is just showing you this is a fire fire,but it's it's not in a natural way at all.
If it was, it would look different, and we canshow you the evidence of fires, natural fires.

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It's just it's right here for you people.
I hope that our listeners and the peoplewatching this and will finally open their eyes
to the truth and stop believing lies justbecause somebody said so.
Don't believe us.
Don't believe Bubba Startz, and don't believeRobert Brame.
Believe your eyes when you see the evidence andknow in your heart what the truth is.

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That's all we're asking you here.
This is about the last thing I like to shareout.
John and Matt, the two fire captains of thirtyyears experience told me they're pulling the
culverts up a lot in the fire zone.
Why?
They're metal.
They're digging them up.
These could be four to six or 10 feetunderground.
They're I think they're digging them outbecause they might be compromised that deep in
the ground.
These lasers or whatever they are, arecompromising and making them weak and you don't

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want the road to collapse.
And they're doing this at altitude.
This is subalpine.
These are lodgepole pines.
This is seven, eight thousand feet.
There's aspen here, it's getting ready tochange.
We don't have forest fires at that altitude,yet they're pulling the pipes out and putting
in those black plastic ones, corrugated or abig cement pipe.
I found this at four or five different sites,Right where the the fires crossed the road.

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How about that?
They did it in paradise.
The fire was barely out.
They're changing all the pipes.
Why is that?
Normal fire has nothing to do with the pipeunderground.
And more redwoods, same old thing.
So I can stop at same time you want.
I've plastic swimming pools, they don't melteither.
Where's the flying embers?

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These are redwoods.
Do you
see a burned one?
They're dead looking.
All starting to regenerate.
But where's those flat flying embers for thisplastic swimming pool?
Right.
Yeah.
How do the right Explanations
that we've been given make any sense at allwhen you start to look at the amount of
evidence that you have just shown us, it's it'sdamning.

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It's very damning, and and the culprit seemsseems very while we may not be able to pinpoint
it, it's obviously electromagnetic.
Otherwise, it wouldn't be traveling through theconductors the way that it is and Yeah.
And ignoring the combustibles.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And this is everywhere.
Greece, Hungary, Portugal, China, the23,000,000 acres they burned in Canada 2023.

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43,000,000 acres.
I can't fathom that.
Jasper, a third of the town, Greece, FortMcMurray, Lytton or Lytton, Canada, the great
Australian fires, the China ones, All of them.
I mean, the very few exception, and this one,of course, I love it.
The chainsaw's plastic.
It didn't wanna burn up like the window and allthe tires.

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Nope.
Not that one.
Anyway
Yeah.
I don't even know what to say.
I don't even know what to say because it
Oh, you're a metal shop guy.
Is a shop.
Look at the metal shop.
Why is that pinion pine?
Those are the pinion nuts we eat near what doyou call it, South Of Reno, but a metal shop.

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Well, the metals are on fire and the tires inthe foreground, opinion pine refused to burn.
What the heck?
Yeah, wherever I go, it's the same.
I wish it'd be normal this is what they'redoing.
I got in early.
Gernville, Russian River, they're stealingeverything off your property.
These are multiple properties.
They're taking all the bins, the plastics, thewood.

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They didn't burn.
And I bet you they did that in Lahaino whenthey put that fence around it.
I'm sure 10 wheelers were going in there andthey were stealing all the evidence.
It's not for your safety.
That's like yeah.
They're always pushing fear and safety downyour throat.
This isn't one property.
No way.
It's a staging area.
And your two tallest trees in the world again,and a cedar also.

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Oh, no.
Redwood.
They didn't burn.
Nope.
And another pile I found in the Mariposa, theygot they got it
together.
Garden hoses.
Yeah.
Garden hose, little plastic pots, and PVC andchairs.
They just get everything together no matterwhat it is.
I'm sure the fires were afraid of the hoses.
That's what it was.
The black hose going past.

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That's some type of PVC.
Right.
Well, and funny, Robert.
I my dad's a landscaper, so I grew up pokingthat black PVC in the ground.
That's amazing.
Oh, it's
Mommy stops.
And and what we all have to remember that allof these pictures that you've shown tonight,
most of these are people's homes.
These are human beings' homes that have beencompletely obliterated, not by a natural cause,

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by people.
Other humans are perpetuating this, and we needto wake up, right, and to open our eyes and to
realize that the lies are exactly what theyare.
They are lies.
They they are we just stop believing.
Stop believing should be the first thing thatthat we do.

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Right?
If you're out there and you think that work orbelieve your own eyes.
Believe what you've been shown tonight in thispresentation.
We're not asking you to believe us.
Yeah.
Believe your own eyes and what you're seeingand ask yourself.
Ask yourself if you can someone's home burneddown behind them.
Their children will never play there again.

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Their children will never live in that home.
And and that's the real tragedy that, you know,LA is gonna go through now is because here
comes BlackRock with the payouts because, oh,sorry.
Your home wasn't insured for a fire.
That's
right.
And that's the play.
That was the play in Lahaina.
That's been the play along all of these places.
And when you follow the maps of the smartcities and the new Olympic range and you can't

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you can't deny it anymore.
They I don't think that they can deny itanymore.
No.
The city of Greenville by Mount Lassen, ourmost southern volcano, the whole city was gone.
All that's left was a gas station and a foodstore, and all the plastic garbage cans were
taken away, but I found a couple brand newones.

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Plastics everywhere, hidden behind walls, theydidn't see them.
The fire truck, that was like 09:11.
That's what I remember.
Like, what does that to a fire truck?
And the background, this is the great Dixiefire by itself was almost a million acres.
Trees are all dead, but I can't say they'reburned up.
Mid conifer zone.
This is where you would have your worstfirestorms.

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They didn't burn up.
Uh-uh.
Show me.
The whole town, gone.
That one too, same area.
They just refused to burn.
The whole homes, it's rare to find any black.
I have to really look around unless the firedepartment got there quick enough, you find a
little bit black navy.
Yeah.

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These are the last few and I'm about done.
You want me to stop the screenshot?
No.
No.
No.
Just give if you only got a few more, let's getthrough the rest of them.
Nails, these are all different fires.
I'm always looking for the post, the nails, awalnut orchard.
All the trees were English walnut, ungrafted,burned from the inside out at the bottom.
Look at the field.
The cows eat the grass again or they mow it.

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There's no combustion here.
Why is this burning internally?
This is horrific.
Some, the trees were gone and the stump had ahole in the ground.
And all there is is short grass.
Nothing else.
I think that might be it.
That's it right there.
Osprey.
Yeah.
Robert, I I thank you so much for for joiningour program and sharing, you know, your your

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knowledge and your experiences.
I mean, you've seen these places firsthand.
You've been there.
You've been documenting this stuff for almosttwenty years now or more.
I just hope that this changes it's not gonnachange the world, but awareness will will
change some minds.

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And once we kind of hopefully hit a a criticalmass to that, that we can start to affect some
real change.
Because Yeah.
This is human beings doing this to humanbeings.
This isn't God doing this to human beings.
This isn't nature taking its course.
There are human beings behind these things, andthere needs to be accountability.

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And until we start to effectuate some of the,you know, the group collective consciousness
and start to activate that on a wider scale,then there really is no we're they're gonna
burn us all alive.
They're gonna vaporize us all just likeeverything that you've shown us tonight.
They have to we have to wake up the massesbefore we can do anything about it because

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right now, they hold all the cards.
They're attacking us every continent, everycountry pretty much.
I don't know how we're gonna combat this, butwe gotta wake up everybody first and educate
them what's going on.
Then we can find out the people building theparts, operating the systems, arming it.
You know, there's a lot of people involved inthis.
It's not just a few people.

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Millions of people are involved.
Just like that day, twenty four years ago inNew York.
It wasn't just a handful of people orchestratedfor a long time.
Yeah.
Just gotta educate.
I educate people every single day.
I I have a flyer.
I didn't take a picture of it for you with mytenant.
You can send it to me, and we'll definitelyinclude it in the show when we go to post it.

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I'm gonna turn this around real quick becausewe can't hang on to this stuff.
Do you wanna go ahead and and just kinda pluganywhere where people can get ahold of you?
They can contact you to to give a presentationin their town.
I know you've been very busy delivering thesethings at churches and educating people in real
life Yes.
I am.
To gather them.
So go ahead and share whatever you can.

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I don't know how to put my email on there, butthe best thing to see any of my 25 videos now
is type in anywhere on your computer, forensicarborist Robert.
Those three words will come up on anywhere,just any and Rumble is one of the best, so is
DuckDuckGo and Yandex.
Google and YouTube, they kinda watch what I'mdoing.

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But the other ones, wow.
Even my smallest videos or town hall meetings,they're on those.
Rumble's pretty good.
I don't really wanna give out my email becauseI'll get inundated in two
Yeah.
We don't wanna do that, but definitely checkingout the rumble.
Once again, go ahead and and tell us your nameon there one more time.
Robert Brame, forensic arborist.

(01:07:22):
Fifty years of analyzing plants, at least inCalifornia, and many introduced plants from
around the world in our neighborhoods.
It's just that's been my fun for half a centurynow.
And and I thank God for your love of the plantlife and the fauna and all those years that you
spent before any of this out there.

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Once again, documenting natural the way thatthings are naturally occurring.
Right?
Because without that basis, anyone could lookat what's happening now and go, well, that's
the way that it's always been.
No.
It hasn't.
Here here's the truth.
And I I just appreciate you so much for comingon our program today and sharing with us, and I

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hope that as things move forward that we get totalk a lot more often.
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