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When my grandson Sam Phillips joins the conversation, we don't just talk baseball; we explore the very essence of youth sportsmanship, perseverance, and communal strength. As host Gregg Phillips, I take immense pride in sharing stories from the Vipers' baseball diamond, where teamwork creates champions and our young athletes, like Sam, find the courage to rise above adversity. His tales of drawing positivity from Bible verses and the broader life lessons learned through each pitch, catch, and swing breathe new life into the age-old adage that sports are more than just games.

We delve into the mental gymnastics of competitive sports, where the will to win is as vital as the skills honed in practice. Sam's strategy for maintaining focus – taking a breath or zeroing in on the next play – echoes the tactics I used in my own athletic endeavors, underscoring the universality of these lessons. Beyond the field, this episode encompasses a candid look at a fourth grader's world; from the complexities of schoolyard politics to the hopeful musings of a young mind yearning for a future in Major League Baseball, or perhaps amidst the prehistoric wonders of geology.

In a poignant reflection, we broach topics that shape our very identities: politics, faith, and the importance of community support, especially when rallying for causes close to our hearts, like Eli Barnes' battle against cancer. And as we navigate these heavier musings, we also celebrate the lighter moments – the joys of "Papa's School," the competitive spirit in PE class, and the simple yet profound pride of watching your family grow and thrive. Join us on this touching journey that captures the heart of childhood, the impact of sports, and the lessons that last a lifetime.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
Phillips, welcome back to Patriot Games.
I have a very special showtonight with a very special
guest.
His name is Sam Phillips.
He is my grandson.
For those of you who follow meon True Social, you no doubt
have seen many of my posts aboutSam and follow along with him
and his sports activities andthings that I call games.

(01:34):
Sam plays and Sam doing Samthings.
Well, sam's going to join ustoday on the podcast and we are
going to do some of those thingswith Sam.
He's a great kid, a great youngman.
It's been brought to ourattention that friends out in
California, the Barnes family,especially Eli, a 12-year-old
young man, is sick.
He has cancer and is beingtreated at a hospital at UC

(01:58):
Davis.
The family wanted to be able toget him blood for his condition
and they wanted to be able togive it to him directly, but to
do that, inexplicably, the RedCross requires $25,000 for a

(02:20):
directed donation and he's goingto have to have about four of
them.
So, while many of thetreatments and much of what
Eli's going through are beingtreated by chemotherapy and all
of the things that you have todo when you have this kind of
advanced situation, it's thisblood situation and having to
come up with $100,000, which isquite difficult.
So Sam has agreed to come onand encourage everyone to

(02:45):
consider donating to our friendEli Barnes.
So anyway, hope you enjoy theshow and thanks so much for your
kindness, support and ifthere's anything you can do to
support Eli, we're putting agive, send go link down in the
description.
We'll also put it in thecomments and we appreciate your

(03:09):
support and your help with thisyoung man.
Thanks so much, sam.
Thanks for coming in on yourspring break right.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Where'd you come back from?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
The Gulf Shores.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Gulf Shores, you had fun.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Who'd you go with?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
My friend Rex from my baseball team.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Y'all came straight from baseball last weekend,
right?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, from Nashville to Gulf Shore it was like a
seven-hour drive.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You won the championship.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
How'd you do?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Good Won MVP pitcher had like a batting average of
500.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
So you play on a team that is, I think you guys have
won like 150 games and lost 15since you've been playing there,
which is crazy I mean at anyage, any sport anywhere across
multiple years to be that manywins and that winning percentage
is really extraordinary.
It's like 87% winning.
That's just huge.
I mean, I think that's betterthan even Saban and than others.

(04:01):
So yeah, it's really, it'sreally pretty extraordinary.
What do you think the secret tothe Vipers' success is?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Try hard, don't give up and be a team player.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So does Coach Dusty talk about that all the time?
Are those the things he talksabout?
Yes, sir, what makes you guysdifferent than everybody else?
I mean, you've obviously gottalented kids, but what else?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
We play as a team, we work as a team, we think as a
team.
If someone gets down like you,get down with them.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You had a little bit of adversity that you faced the
first of the year you guys wentout to a tournament out in
Houston.
But I think one of the thingsthat impressed me most, sam,
about you, was that after thatsituation you really came back,
and even the team too, but youin particular, the next time you
pitched really came back anddid.
What do you think about whenyou're having a tough time out

(04:56):
on the mound or after you've hada tough time and you come in
and you sit down?
What's going through your head?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
what's going through your head.
I just try to forget what justhappened.
If it was bad, if it's good,I'll just try to do it again.
Whatever works for me, thatinning or game try to do it
again the next.
There's nothing you can't dowhat does it say?
There's nothing you can't do.
It's a Bible verse that'sawesome.
I also have John 3.16.

(05:24):
Right here, oh shoot.
It's a Bible verse.
That's awesome.
I also have John 3.16.
Right here, oh shoot.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
We'll be right back.
So you've got John 3.16,.
And then what's the other one?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
50-4-13.
There's nothing you can't do.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
One of JD's friends that he grew up with and played
with, davis Daniel um, nowpitching for the Angels, which
is pretty cool yeah in MLB, uh,but you had a chance to work
with him some this offseason, so, uh, first of all, what was
that like?
Was that cool?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
yeah, davis is my favorite MLB player.
Davis is one of my favorite MLBplayers that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
So what'd you learn from Davis?
What?
What did he teach you?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
He taught me how to throw faster, how to be under
control, how to throw morestrikes.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Didn't he talk to you a little bit about how to think
through things and if you'resay throwing everything low and
out, how to fix that?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, first you work on where you're looking, if
you're aiming, if you're aiminghigh, you're throwing high,
change that to like get middle,like catcher's mitt, or if, like
, there is no, if there is not,like, if the catcher doesn't
have this, like mid up, justlike aim chest, and if you, if

(06:41):
you're missing outside and away,try to bring it in.
So like middle left, if you'reaiming, middle right, and if
that's not working, like, changeyour arm slot, like if you're
going here, if you're releasinghere and it's going straight

(07:02):
down, start here like releasehere, and it'll go like where
you want it.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You know, sam, the things you're talking about.
I mean there are things that Ilearned as I got older, but I
mean one of the cool thingsabout having this chance to work
with Davis and really, you know, learn skills that MLB guys are
using.
That's going to be supermeaningful to you in your career

(07:30):
.
But I can pretty safely saythat very few 10-year-olds have
had that opportunity.
You think made a difference sofar this year.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, Davis is just simple.
He explains stuff easily.
My past pitching coaches theyhaven't been able to do that
like it.
They've been like rushing methrough stuff that I've learned
or like I'm gonna learn in likehigh school or college right

(07:59):
well, that's, that's exactlyright.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So I know you love baseball and you're having a
great year so far this year andyour ERA is coming down.
Another few innings this weekwith no earned runs.
I think you gave up two hits.
It's pretty impressive.
What is it about baseball thatmakes it your favorite?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Just like the rush, like being under control.
I like being a pitcher whenyou're ready, everyone's ready.
I like being a starter becauseyou're the person who starts,
and like you're basically youshut down the first three

(08:41):
batters, or like let yourdefense do a little work, I like
, just like shutting them down.
I like I think it's fun.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, it's a great way to start the game.
I mean, and you know, thepitcher controls the game and
the pitcher controls the cadenceof the game and how fast you
pitch or how slow you pitch.
You can really change that up.
I mean, do you think aboutthose things while you're out on
the mound?
No, not up.
I mean, do you think aboutthose things?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
while you're out on the mound.
No, not really.
I just think of like throwingstrikes and like throwing it
hard a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So one of the nastiest pitches you have is
pretty impossible to hit.
So tell me about your pitchselection.
What do you have?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I have a four-seam and two-seam grip as a fastball.
I have a four seam and two seamgrip as a fastball.
I have a change up which islike you put your ring finger
and your middle finger on thetwo laces that same like this, I
grip it like this, and then youthrow the ball inside and it

(09:44):
kind of like it's hard tocontrol, like I haven't really
found out the way it moves yetbecause I just started like
throwing it the way.
So about what speed is yourchangeup?
50, 50 and 49.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
And then your fastball these days is 63, 64.
That's pretty impressive for a10-year-old, yeah.
So what else do you have?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
What's the nastiest pitch you have?
I have like a curveball, butlike.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Let me just tell you right now there are parents
everywhere that hear you saythose words and they're like
flipping out, like wait what?
You're letting a 10-, 10 yearold throw a curveball?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
so let's talk about it.
It's not exactly.
It's not thrown like a peoplewould think a curveball would be
, where you have a lot of snaptwist you, you grab it like this
and you throw it like that soit's the same basic motion yeah,
you're still and you're kind of, and you're kind of locking up.
Yeah, I also have a cutter.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
The cutter, I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's nasty.
Yeah it's sick.
If you have a right-hander andyou throw it on their back foot,
it's basically impossible tohit.
But if it's a lefty up you haveto throw it at them and it kind
of like it's high and it goescurves and like down the middle

(11:10):
and low, so um.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So who calls your games?
Who calls the pitches?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
uh, uh, my catcher and no my coach.
I wish I could call your coach.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
One of of the questions that one of the
followers on Truth Socialsomebody that follows you and
follows me asked me to ask youwas about your eye black.
So you have two basic eye blackframe or setups.
You got the one that's more ofa kind of an upside down giant,

(11:44):
like a arrowhead or something Idon't know like an upside down
giant, like a arrowhead orsomething I don't know like a
upside down triangle, and thenyou have another one that's more
like a cross.
So what makes you decide to dothem differently and what tell
me why you uh this past weekend,why you did what you did?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
um, this past weekend I did the cross because it was
palm sunday and I decided to be,like, a good one to do and I
sometimes I don't do the crossbecause it's too skinny, like,
and it's like really bright.
I won't wear it.
I won't do it because, like,I'll wear glasses and it looks
like a big, long stick.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So when the glasses cross over the cross or when
they cover a part of the cross,it just looks like a line.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I do the triangle because I saw another person do
it and I was like that lookscool, so I started doing it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think Tua was the first one that I ever saw do it.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, I saw Max Clark oh.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Max Klor.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, he is an invaluable commit in the
first-round draft for DetroitTigers.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So what's it like to be on a team that I mean?
One of the things I worry abouta little bit for you is that
you win too much.
I mean, whether it's football,you guys went undefeated.
I think last year you lost oneor two games.
Baseball, you guys hardly everlose.
I mean, I worry about you thatyou're winning too much.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I guess I'm just like used to it.
I'm not used to losing, so likeit doesn't matter if it's like
wiffle ball or backyard baseball.
I want to win, like I'll dowhatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
That's not a bad thing.
You do need to learn how tolose without tears, but there's
no crying in baseball.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I don't cry.
I used to cry, dusty started.
If you're going to cry, leave.
Like just get out of the dugout.
So like it ruins.
If one person cries because ofa strikeout, the other people's
like the other people like getemotional.
We're like, you're like, oh,that guy's, that guy's out.

(13:51):
So like what are we gonna donow?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
what's your mindset like when you, when you're, when
you're out on the mound and,let's say, you're facing
adversity, right, let's say yougave up a big hit or gave up a
couple of runs and you're notthrowing strikes?
I mean, one of the challenges Iused to have when I was playing
was I was a little wild, and somy first year pitching in high
school I was in 10th grade and Iwas literally pitching a

(14:15):
no-hitter.
But I had walked seven guys andmy coach, coach Lewis, came out
to the mound in the last inning.
And now I'm pitching ano-hitter, right, yeah, and I
wanted to finish the gamebecause I wanted the no-hitter.
I mean, I was a 10th grader andI was playing against older
kids and he came out to themound and said, if you walk one

(14:35):
more, I'm taking you out.
And I remember thinking, yeah,right, you're not going to take
me out, I'm pitching a no-hitterman.
And sure enough, I walked thenext guy and he came out and got
me and pulled me out.
So what's your mindset like whenyou're struggling?
I mean, what's your?
What do you think about, like,if you, let's say, you, walk a

(14:56):
couple?
I think a couple weeks ago youhit a couple of kids, and it was
last weekend.
You loaded the bases firstinning, then struck out the side
.
What's in your mind when youthink about when you got have
bases loaded?
Nobody out the beginning of thegame.
You're not really throwingstrikes.
What do you think about tobring yourself back around?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
uh be calm, uh, don't rush, um, because like,
everything's on your side, justtry your hardest.
If it's not going your way, youcan like always like just step
off, take a breath, or like calltime, like get the catcher to
come to you, like tell themwhat's happening, tell them to

(15:32):
like slow down.
I think it was in Houston.
I gave up two home runs, all ofthem like right.
When they hit the home run, Iasked for a ball because, like
like I didn't want to just stareat it, like stare at the ball
leaving.
I just kind of like um askedthe ball from the umpire, um,

(15:53):
and I got on the mound.
By the time I was on the moundwith the ball, he was rounding
second and didn't look at him.
I kind of took a breather.
That was a little time I had.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, I think all the parents were shocked, just
because the kids were like myheight.
These kids were like 6'2", 200pounds, right.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, they also had a horn, which was very annoying.
They were just too.
I had like a triple.
I think that silenced the crowddefinitely.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So yeah, I think that's right.
So I know you love baseball andyou're obviously pretty good at
it and I think you have a hugecareer in it if you want that.
But you're also pretty good atfootball.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I love football.
Football is just fun.
I love winning.
I think the team's not going tobe as good as we were last year
, but it's always challenging.
I love my offensive coordinator.
He calls like perfect plays.

(17:08):
My favorite plays are passing.
Go to the side.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Spoken like a true quarterback.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I just love like letting go of the ball.
I love throwing deep ones like,especially when they're like in
the basket.
That's just the best feelingever.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think what surprises people.
For a 9 or 10-year-old to beable to toss the ball like you
do is pretty impressive.
Is your mindset different infootball as a quarterback than
it is in baseball as a pitcher,or do you use some of the same
mental tools?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I use some of the same mental tools, like take a
breath, like in football, likewhen you're on the sidelines, I
kind of like sit down on thebench, or I'll like cheer on the
team.
If, like when you get aninterception, it's not the
greatest feeling, but you kindof got to overcome that and like
be better next time when youget onto the field and one of

(18:07):
the things sam's easy to see asan adult and and much harder to
see as a kid, because you knowyour experience is your is.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
You know what you have and you've.
You know you've only been alivefor 10 years but your
experiences athletically go wellbeyond what anyone my age could
even imagine.
I mean, you guys have traveledall over the place, you've won
an incredible number of games.
You win the footballchampionship, you win the
baseball championship and Ithink that you know one of the

(18:37):
things I know your parents, youknow, worry about you and your
health and your arm and you knowI think your dad's done a great
job of starting to get you intothe workout room and that kind
of stuff.
I mean that's real dedicationfor a 10-year-old.
Is that something that you'veexperienced in other

(18:59):
10-year-olds or are you doingsomething different than other
kids are doing?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I guess, Like I try harder than most senior olds,
Like I give all my all, Like Ilove the game, Like if there
wasn't baseball, I wouldn't knowwhat I was going to do.
You wouldn't know what to do.
I guess I would play football,Like if there wasn't football or
baseball.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, I think part of that's a respect for the game
and you respect the game andthat's critically important.
As you grow up and really youknow at some point it always
ends right.
Whether you're Davis' age andyou know he's going to get five
or six years probably as apitcher in MLB.
Some kids it ends when they'rein college.
Some kids it ends when they'restarting in high school.
Eventually it will end, butit's the lessons that I think

(19:47):
that you take away from teamsports that really make a
difference.
One of the things that I meantto pull out was your goals that
you set last year duringfootball.
Some of them were specific, butsome of them were specific to
the team in football.
Some of them were specific, butsome of them were specific to
the team, and so I think thatyou're growing up and you're

(20:08):
learning things that many kidsdidn't learn.
You know, when your uncle JDwent to IMG and played baseball,
one of the things that theymade him do was go to a class
called mental conditioning, andwhat they did in mental
conditioning it was taught by aguy that I think does this for
the Boston Red Sox now a guynamed Justin Sua, and what they

(20:31):
really tried to get the kids toreally understand are a lot of
the things that I'm hearing fromyou now right, like slow down,
breathe.
If you make a mistake, justforget it and move on.
You know the kind of thingsthat you're talking about, but I
think you're growing up beyondyour years, so let's skip sports

(20:51):
for a few minutes.
Let's talk about school.
So if you're like most fourthgraders, you're probably going
to say I hate school.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
School's fine.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
All right, that's a good answer.
That's probably a dad coachedanswer.
So what's your favorite class?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Math.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
How come?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's challenging, but I love it.
I like division, multiplication, addition, decimals, fractions.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Mlb player.
If you don't make it to MLB,what do you want to do?
What do you want your collegeexperience to be?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You want to go to Vanderbilt?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Because I like the baseball facility.
They have good coaching.
They have good grades.
Everyone on their team has A'stheir academics.
Good coaching, I like they havegood grades.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Like everyone on their team, has like A's.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Their academics.
Yes, their academics is verygood.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
What do you want to study?
What do you want to learn aboutin college?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I like to study rocks .

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You like to study rocks, so geology.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well, geology is cool .

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, I like how.
I also like dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You like dinosaurs yeah dinosaurs are cool.
Anthropology, geology.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Anthropology yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
If Andy craps out, you can always go to Alabama.
We have great.
Both of those programs aregreat.
Well, that's very cool.
So I'm going to ask you thedreaded girl question what's up
with girls?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Girls.
Girls are a lot these days.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
They're a lot to worry about.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, a lot these days.
They're a lot to worry aboutyeah, they a lot of drama, a lot
of drama at my school.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm pretty sure that that's been around for a while,
true but like it's worse it'sworse now.
Yeah, what makes you say that?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
they talk a lot about each other behind their back
they talk a lot about each other.
Yeah, I like the simple ones.
I don't get worried about a lot.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Let's see what else can we talk.
Let's talk about Hollis.
Hollis, so you have a littlesister, my granddaughter.
So if you say anything uglyabout her, I'm going to punch
you no, please.
You have a great little sister.
A lot of boys don't have goodlittle sisters, but you have a
great little sister.
She goes to every single one ofyour games.

(23:09):
I mean she has sat through morebaseball.
She's sat through like 200baseball games already because
she loves you.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
My sister's the best.
She's also crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
She's not really crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
She's not crazy.
She's not like crazy, she'slike goofy.
She knows, not really crazy,she's not crazy.
She's not like crazy, she'slike goofy.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
She knows how to get under your skin.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yes, yes, she loves sports like tennis.
While we were at the beach wewere playing loop-a-ball.
We needed one more player, sowe played with my sister.
We were throwing soft tossbecause, like we thought, she
like we thought we had to goeasy.
We were using this racket thingand it had a big barrel.

(23:48):
It was basically like a tennisracket.
She can hit the tennis ball farand first pitch went into the
ocean.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Hollis hit first pitch into the ocean.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It was insane, everyone was hyped, so her team
won the basketball championship.
The ocean, yeah Nice.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
It was insane, like everyone was hyped, so her team
won the basketball championshipthis year.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Oh yeah, hollis, she's.
It's her first year playing, solike I didn't expect her to be
like real good, but like she'sgood.
She's good on defense.
She misses a couple shots onoffense, but like we haven't
really worked on her with thatyet, but she made me want to
play basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
So let's skip over and let's talk about politics.
So who do you think ought to bethe president?

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Why.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Donald Trump's the GOAT.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
He's the GOAT.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So why do you think America needs somebody like
President Trump?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Because he knows how to be a leader.
He's obviously done this before.
He's a nice guy sometimes.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
What about Biden?
Biden annoys me.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I mean, he annoys you yeah he's a good man Like I
like him.
But you just think PresidentTrump would be better for
America.
He annoys you.
Yeah, he's a good man.
I like him.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
But you just think President Trump would be better
for America.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I think that's probably right.
Let's talk a little bit aboutchurch.
I posted the video of youspeaking when you guys did the
play this year, the Christmasplay.
I posted the video andthousands of people liked it and
whatnot.
So, um, one of the thingspeople don't know about you is

(25:32):
that this that you and yoursister pray every single night
yeah is that?
Is that something that youdon't even think about it
anymore, right?
I mean, that's just somethingthat's become part of your life
yeah, routine routine.
Yeah, what's the most importantthing of what you're learning
about your faith?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I mean, god is good, nothing else it's coming up
close to Easter.
I've always been a bigChristian but I kind of like
took it up a notch.
Like my school, we have thisthing called uh, first priority,
which is basically everytuesday.
We go, we I get to school earlyand we learn like something new

(26:11):
and like everyone prays at eachday and it's like really good.
My class also prays every daybefore lunch like I learned like
a new story, like jo, job,jeremiah, all the great ones
have you guys studied any of theGospels, like John and those.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Have you gotten to that?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
yet yeah, we did that at Sunday school.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Sunday school.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
So one of the things I want to talk to you a little
bit about is a friend of ours, afamily friend of ours, out in
California.
A 12-year-old boy, eli, hasbeen sick.
I talked to you about italready and one of the things
that's really inexplicable isthat Eli's family has cancer and

(27:03):
he's got to get new bloodoccasionally.
And one of the things that'sreally inexplicable is that
Eli's family has cancer and he'sgot to get new blood
occasionally, and one of thethings that he has to do they
wanted to do was be able to getblood from his family.
It'd be like if you got sick,you know your mom and dad are
hollis and you know everybody inour family would want to give
you blood.
Well, the Red Cross thatcollects the blood has this

(27:24):
crazy deal that if you want todirect it, in other words, if
your dad wanted to say I want togive my blood to Sam, the Red
Cross charges $25,000 for thatand he's got to have four of
them.
Eli's got to have four of theseand you know, for adults to

(27:47):
kind of look at that, it's likewhat in the world is going on.
But it also, you know, is is,you know, brings back some, you
know, sort of big biblicalthoughts.
Romans 12, eight says thisgiving with generosity, leading
with diligence, showing mercywith cheerfulness.
And I was thinking aboutknowing you were coming in today
and I just wanted to talk toyou a little bit about this, and

(28:09):
you know you're going to havethousands of people watching
this show, thousands, so therewill be let's just say that
there were 20,000 people watchthis show.
If we could just get 2,000 ofthem, 10% of them, to give $10
or $20, we could raise enough toget one of these blood

(28:33):
transfers paid for.
So I know it's hard, becauseyou know you're healthy and you
know I'm not I've struggled withthe cancers and stuff too so
but this is something that Ithink is really important and
one of the things that I like Ilike most about you, sam, is
that is that you're, you'rethoughtful and and and you have

(28:56):
diligence and you show mercy andyou're, you know, cheerfulness
and and all the things that werein Romans.
The book of Romans was writtenby Paul, one of the leaders of
Rome.
Ancient Rome basically bannedChristianity from Rome, and so
they basically kicked all theChristians out of Rome and

(29:19):
kicked all the Jews out of Rome,and so by the time five years
later, when they all got to comeback, things had sort of
morphed and changed and theystopped learning how to do right
and how to really follow thecommandments, learning how to do
right and how to really followthe commandments.
And so he wrote these lettersto Rome saying hey guys, you're
not doing this right anymore.
But if you think about that,you know, you think about, you

(29:42):
know giving with generosity.
I want to be able to help Eli.
So if I said I want you to givesome money to Eli to help pay
for this blood situation thatthey're dealing, his family's
dealing with you think 10 buckswould you be willing to do that?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Like 20 or 15.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
20 bucks.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be, that'sgreat.
Well, here's what I think weought to do, sam, I think, I
think, I think if you would justtell everybody that's watching,
you know, when we're trying toget, let's just say we're trying
to get 2000 people to get, say,we're trying to get 2,000
people to give $20.
That's $40,000.
Well, that'll pay for nearlytwo of these treatments, which
would be phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
So look at the camera and ask all the adults out
there to step up and help Eli.
If you can donate a couple,like $20 or whatever you can put
out, we're going to put theGive, send, go link below into
the description so you candonate $20 to Eli and his family
so they could afford for hiscancer treatments.

(30:44):
That money would mean so hecould be a regular boy and not
have to worry about, like justpray for him he doesn't even
ever know when it's going to behis last day Just going to have
a regular life like do thethings that he loves again.

(31:04):
Children deserve to have a goodlife.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think it's really unfair, honestly, sam, that the
Red Cross is doing this, butthat's an adult problem.
And I think that's reallyunfair, honestly, sam, that the
Red Cross is doing this, butthat's an adult problem.
And I think that me, catherine,your dad, others are going to
be pretty aggressive and Papacan be aggressive sometimes and
I think we're going to beaggressive in our approach of
this situation with the RedCross.

(31:28):
It's really just unfair, right.
I mean, you've got a little kidthat we really just want to be
able to support him and help him, you know, not just financially
, but with prayer and, sam, Ihope that you and Hollis will
add Eli to your prayer list atnight until we get past this.

(31:51):
I don't know a lot of kids thathave have the dedication to
sports that you have.
I can remember when you werelittle, like going out.
You'd be out in the in duringCOVID even.
I think you were in like firstor second grade or something and
you were out in the, in thegarage, you know, pounding
baseballs into the net.
A lot of kids have been thereon their video games or doing
whatever, but you do that, andeven even this summer and in

(32:14):
between, even this winter you dothings that not every kid does
Quarterback practice, I mean.
You really train hard.
So what are some of the thingsthat you're doing that you think
are making a difference in yourbody and how you approach the
game?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I go to workouts upper body.
Mostly I do sleds.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Sleds, kind of lower body though right In sled kind
of drive.
Yeah, you do plyometrics andthings like that.
Box jumps and that kind ofstuff.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Sometimes, well, like this winter, our team does like
workouts, like team workouts.
We do like stuff for our arms,we do.
We throw medicine balls atwalls.
We do lunges, bear crawls, alot of stuff to like help our

(33:06):
body and like be healthy.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
So what do you do at the gym?
What are the kind of things youdo at the gym?
What are the kind of things youdo at the gym?
What's your least favoritething?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
My least favorite, sleds.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Sleds are your least favorite.
Yeah, I think bear crawls wasalways my least favorite.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
We do bear crawls at my practice.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, there's a few things that are more important
for you than pressing that lowerbody and learning how to drive,
and so um so sleds make all ahuge amount of difference, not
just in football but in baseballwhen we break it down we say
like win on me, one on three,one, two, three, one so, uh,
vipers, breaks it down a littlebit differently, right yeah,

(33:51):
what's your Viper breakdown?
Dominate, dominate.
Yeah so at your workouts it'swin, with the Vipers it's
dominate.
What about football?
Team, team, yeah so win, teamand dominate are your main
breakdowns for your differentsports in your workouts.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, we pray before each workout.
We also give a prayer requestif we have anyone we want to
pray for.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
So maybe say a prayer for Eli.
Yeah, ask a prayer request.
Sam, thanks for coming in.
You have anything else you wantto talk about?
We didn't cover oh, I know whatwe didn't cover.
We didn't cover Papa's school,all right.
So back during COVID everybodythat follows me knows this

(34:36):
Occasionally I would come over.
I was actually going throughcancer treatment myself at the
time, I don't know if you evenknew that, but I would come over
and you were obviouslyhomeschooling and and we would
do public school.
So we set up in the, in theguest room, we set up a desk
Remember, your parents set up adesk at the table, the

(34:57):
whiteboard, the whiteboard, thewhole thing and we would do Papa
School.
So I was the best teacheryou've ever had, right.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't know what you mean.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It's okay, you don't have to answer.
So what was the best part aboutPapa's school?
Man, we learned so much.
Sam, I let you off the hook somany times.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean, I like running Papa's PT.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Papa's PT?
Yeah, but you didn't like thepush-ups.
No, you were good at thepush-ups, you just didn't like
them.
No, because you were what tooyoung.
Yeah, but you were crankingthem out though.
You know what we ought to do weought to create a Papa's PT for
PE at school.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
No, I don't know.
So what do you all do at PE atschool?
On Mondays we do cardio day,which is like basically like
catch up with your friends fromthe weekend.
Tuesday we have like I thinkthis month we're doing like
basketball, which is likelearning how to play the game,

(36:09):
and Wednesday is like stationday.
We have a stage, we have abasketball court in our gym and
behind that is the stage, and onthe stage there's like workout
equipment, like treadmills, thatbike thing where you like pedal

(36:30):
your feet, and there's alsolike yoga balls, medicine balls
and yeah so what then?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
what do you do on Thursdays?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
uh, same thing we do on Tuesday and on Friday.
We do like fun.
Friday we have to run four lapsaround, are?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
you, you, the fastest .

Speaker 3 (36:52):
One of them, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
One of the fastest?
Yeah, do you dominateeverything in PE?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, like sharks and minnows.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Sharks and minnows yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I get numbers in sharks and minnows.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I don't know about you Sam.
So, sam, your mom and dadreally control your social media
image and what gets pushed outthere on you, whether it's
videos or the graphics and postsof all types.
But what is it you want peopleto know about you that they

(37:26):
don't see in the videos or theydon't see in the graphics?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I'm calm most of the times, sometimes crazy.
I like to have fun.
I play really hard.
So like I play really hard inthe game, like I tried my
hardest in games, and like afterthe games I go like um, like
give them high fives, like tellthem good game, and then I'd

(37:53):
have fun with my teamsafterwards sometimes.
And yeah, basically I like tohave fun.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Do you consider yourself a leader on your team?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
One of them.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
yes, On your baseball team?
Yes, what about football?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
You're a leader.
Yes.
What do you think makes thewhat's the good qualities of a
leader?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Time stays with the team, Like if the team's doing
something bad, like tell themnot to do it, follow the rules
and basically don't get introuble.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
That's probably right .
Ask Papa some questions.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
What are your thoughts on Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
trouble.
That's probably right.
Ask Papa some questions.
What are your thoughts onDonald Trump?
I think that a lot of peopleconsider President Trump, you
know, depending on what sideyou're listening to, I mean a
lot of people either.
See, you know he can do nowrong and other people, you know
, let's say he can do no right.
I think that the Democrats andthe left broadly, people on the

(38:54):
other side have so demonized himand so attacked him.
You know they've arrested himmultiple times.
We were talking about thisearlier.
You know that mugshot is reallyinteresting because of the way
he embraced that and his teamembraced that and, frankly, how

(39:16):
other people embrace it.
People now look at that and say, wow, I mean, they did that to
the former president of thecountry.
Their way is to talk so badlyabout him that people might

(39:37):
think poorly about him.
But my experiences withPresident Trump he is a very
genuine human being.
He's very kind, he's tough butis very smart.
I think he is challenged bywhat a lot of leaders are
challenged by, and that is, thepeople around them aren't always

(39:58):
the best people, and so youknow there were people in his
first administration who reallydidn't have his best interest in
mind.
So my broad thought is thatPresident Trump is a president
for all Americans.
He's going to do what's rightfor America, irrespective of
what it is.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
What thing are you most proud of?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Me, your Uncle, jd, your dad, your mom, emma and
Katie, your mom and Emma and youguys.
I'm proud of my family, I'mproud of who you all are and
what you are, and I'm proud thatyou're you know that you're,

(40:49):
you know, just such a good kid.
I mean.
You know you grow up when youget older, sammy, you'll realize
this that really, in the end,your faith and your belief in
God and your family and friendsto an extent, but your God and

(41:10):
your family and your country arereally what you have and you
have to be willing to fight forall of them.
And I'm proud of you and yoursister and what you guys are
growing up to be and who you'regrowing up to be.
And just you coming in here andsitting down with me today.
There's not, you know, not justevery 10-year-old on the planet

(41:32):
would come in and sit down andtalk about this kind of stuff
and it's hard, but I'm proud ofyou guys for that and it makes
me happy that my life is turnedout in such a way that my family
is something that I can beproud of.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
What makes you the happiest?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
What makes you the happiest?
What?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
makes me the happiest .

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, I love to watch you guys play sports.
I love to watch y'all playsports.
I love to come to your games,whether it's football, baseball,
hollis', basketball, anything.
I love watching you kids, andpart because I like watching you
succeed, I like watching howyou deal with adversity, um, and

(42:20):
and I believe that team sportsis one of the most important
things that kids can do and, uh,just watching you grow up in in
all of that and turn into theto the are and you know,
learning how to think throughthings on the mound or in the
huddle, or even at home or atchurch or anything else.
I mean you're growing up andturning into a young man that

(42:44):
not only your mom and dad aregoing to be proud of, but Papa's
super proud of you.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
What was your most favorite sports moment?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Mine.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Man.
This will sound weird, Sammy,because I did get to play a lot
of sports when I was younger anddon't you face Dale Strawberry.
Yeah, my favorite moment I think, though, Sammy, was not even
about me.
It was when your dad and UncleJD were playing, and I had an

(43:24):
enormous amount of pride in theway that they conducted
themselves on the field and theway that they and now what your
dad's grown up into in terms ofhelping you and coaching you,
but my favorite sports momentsare watching you and watching
Hollis and watching your dad andwatching Uncle JD play.

(43:45):
I mean, those are the things Iremember the most.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
What's something you'd do over again?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
What's something I would do over again.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Man Sammy, I have the most.
What's something you'd do overagain?
What's something I would doover again?
Yeah, man Sammy, I have noregrets.
I would do it all over again,but I'm satisfied with what I am
and who I am and what I'veaccomplished and I've had a
great fortune in my life to workfor presidents and governors
and senators and those kinds ofthings We've accomplished so

(44:19):
much.
I do it all again, but I'msatisfied with the opportunities
that God's given me.
I look forward to the comingyears and watching you grow up

(44:39):
and turn into a man and see whatyou become.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Thank you for including me in this broadcast.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
You're welcome, Sammy .
I'm glad you came.
Love you, bro.
Love you podcast.
You're welcome, Sammy.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I'm glad you came.
Love you, bro.
Love you.
Please don't forget to joinTeam.
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